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Speaker 2: Hello you great, you've seen us. Welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number one eighty four for Friday,

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Speaker 2: the fifteenth of August twenty twenty five. Fantastic show today,

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Speaker 2: Tyler had the fifth great show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uniform chat was fantastic. A lot of pushback on

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Speaker 3: kids wearing uniforms in year thirteen in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Of the week went well, and look, book clubs went

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Speaker 2: well as well, and there was something else. We did

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Speaker 2: a lot of Glaret's out there. Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: pirates out there, a lot of people admitting to criminal

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Speaker 2: behavior later in the show.

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Speaker 3: But Tyler download, subscribe and give us a review.

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Speaker 2: And give them a taste of key. You've seen busy

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Speaker 1: Go, love you big stories, the big issues, the big trends,

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Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons

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Speaker 3: Very good Afternoons. You welcome into Friday show. Always feel

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Speaker 3: good on a Friday, Hoeing Wow.

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Speaker 2: I love a Friday edition of Matt and Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 2: on zb.

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Speaker 3: ME too, and why wouldn't you now, just so are

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Speaker 3: we heads up? There was some accusations made this morning

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Speaker 3: against one of one of me Heath's body parts, and

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Speaker 3: it was made by Mike Cosking and I think Ryan

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Speaker 3: Bridge got in there as well. So you want to

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Speaker 3: address that after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, after three o'clock will address with the accusation.

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Speaker 2: But I've also got evidence that rules me out of

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Speaker 2: the They've got fingerprints, yep. And look, thank god that

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Speaker 2: they brought evidence because I can prove it wasn't me.

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Speaker 3: So court will be incision after three o'clock and we'll

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Speaker 3: get to the bottom of that.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I run gorilla hands and that rules

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Speaker 2: me out.

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Speaker 3: Exhibit Ay, that is after three o'clock. But also we

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Speaker 3: had a great shat yesterday about teachers' salaries and there

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Speaker 3: was the claim from Judith Collins that it can reach

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was just breaking news at the time,

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Speaker 2: So we talked to a lot of people on the

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Speaker 2: we spent talking on it, and we got close to

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Speaker 2: the truth I think on it, but we didn't quite

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Speaker 2: exact information. And when you want the exact information, you

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Speaker 2: as producers collated all the information that we actually needed

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Speaker 4: The base salary for an untrained teacher is eighty five

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty nine dollars. The average teacher salary is

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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars average. Now you can earn units

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Speaker 4: units relocated based on management and or curriculum responsibilities. Each

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure how applicable that is, but any timetabled

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Speaker 4: So I think where the acrimony has come between teachers

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Speaker 4: Is it possible though to earn one full seven?

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Speaker 2: So summary one for seven, one hundred and forty seven

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Speaker 2: So there you go. You're not guaranteed one for seven,

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Speaker 3: Weld do under Mike's producers on that one, right, sticking.

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Speaker 6: With well delivered by Mike costumes, very well delivered actually

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely smashed it right. Speaking about education, this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well good, I say, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: What do you think I think? I think uniform right

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Speaker 2: Shorts nine and year nine and ten, yep, eleven, tie

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Speaker 3: If you're going to start off with the uniform at

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Speaker 3: The students in the community and their parents would argue,

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Speaker 3: themselves would say, we're getting ready for the real world.

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Speaker 3: But as the real world, can you really wear what

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Speaker 2: No, you know, we tried to put the definitive word

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Speaker 3: Yep, it has been to dispute.

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Speaker 2: There's a dispute already. A point of order, Lean says,

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Speaker 2: management units are four five hundred five thousand.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go. You know where we asked the

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Speaker 3: Mike hostkme breakfast and it's it's producers to help us

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Speaker 2: Well, they asked the secondary teacher's collective agreement of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty twenty five. There you go. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're out.

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Speaker 2: We're out.

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Speaker 2: No more of that.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Keen to hear

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Speaker 3: from you. On uniforms, does it make sense that the

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Speaker 2: I think all schools should have all uniform all the time.

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Speaker 3: It is twelve past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon to you. We're talking

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Speaker 3: about school uniforms. So change is being made at Papanui

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Speaker 3: High School. For decades the year thirteens could wear Mufty

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Speaker 3: whatever they liked. Part of that at the time was

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Speaker 3: they were treated like emerging adults and had the ability

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Speaker 3: to prepare for the real world. But they are changing that.

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Speaker 3: They are now deciding that year thirteens have to wear

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Speaker 3: uniforms that all be compulsory from next year.

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Speaker 2: And a survey of over eight hundred people showed most students,

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Speaker 2: parents and community members opposed compulsory senior uniforms. What kind

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Speaker 2: of parents can oppose that kind of thing. This text

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Speaker 2: from Tim says Matt, I would put money on the

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Speaker 2: fact that you weren't uniform compliant when you were at school.

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Speaker 2: That's from Tim Well. I will push back on that.

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Speaker 2: Tim Beal, McEwen, intermediate me and Neil to Marley and

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Speaker 2: Simon Mioli. We stole some girls high blue shirts and

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Speaker 2: then claim to be prefects and then started ordering people

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Speaker 3: So technically were you we were We're in a uniform.

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Speaker 2: We invented a uniform. There can't be a real name

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Speaker 2: to Marley? Is that just what?

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Speaker 3: That was his nickname?

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Speaker 2: Neil to Marley Tomalley.

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Speaker 3: And who is your auto mate?

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Speaker 6: Sign Mali okayo? Yeah, Tomrley's a great last name. By

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Speaker 6: the way, Neil to Marley stole the uniforms off his sister. Actually,

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Speaker 6: Neil hot to Marley. He's a great man, good man.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call. We'll just go over to the line there.

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Speaker 3: I think Emma is on the line here. Emma, you

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Speaker 3: are part of this fight. You're involved in this community.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, I've got two kids at school at the moment, brilliant.

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Speaker 8: One's going to be year thirteen next year.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you're the absolute perfect person to call. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, not a problem. Well do you feel about this, Emma?

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Speaker 8: Well, a survey done, and I thought that they should

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Speaker 8: stick with non uniform because it's been at least thirty

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Speaker 8: seven years, and I also felt that the current year

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Speaker 8: twelves actually have worked their way through. They came in

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Speaker 8: on the promise of it, so that they deserve.

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Speaker 2: It, right. I mean, there is the argument that there's

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Speaker 2: So I get that, but from your perspective, now, don't

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Speaker 2: you just have to buy your kids a whole lot

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Speaker 2: of different, multiple uniform outfits for different days and such,

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Speaker 2: and it's the early the getting ready in the morning

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Speaker 8: No, because, like one of the arguments is that it

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Speaker 8: makes it more fair and even for everyone that people

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Speaker 8: are wearing designer labels. But a challenge if anyone goes

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Speaker 8: to Pepnwi High School to see a designer label out there.

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Speaker 8: Most of the stuff are just sweatshirts and T shirts.

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Speaker 8: And I think you know, particularly you've you booked into

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Speaker 8: the school with that, it's a way of sort of

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Speaker 8: a bit of respect, it's sort of moving into being

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Speaker 8: an adult again. So I don't think you end up

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Speaker 8: buying a lot of clothing because you've got them anyway.

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Speaker 2: So you think if they do it, they should bring

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Speaker 2: it in and tell the year that's starting now coming

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Speaker 2: in at nine, is it nine year nine deal? So

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Speaker 2: by the time you're year thirteen, then that changes up.

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Speaker 2: I can see some logic in them, because we're a

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Speaker 2: way to do it, because there's people have been going

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Speaker 2: to school, going to I'm going to get to we're mufty,

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Speaker 2: and I'm excited about that, and then they just take

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Speaker 2: it away. Now I can see that argument eman for sure, Yes.

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Speaker 8: But also it's what a lot of the problems is

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Speaker 8: finding out why it was got rid of. So the

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Speaker 8: students were told that people voted against it. I was

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Speaker 8: told that people voted against having non uniform, but I

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Speaker 8: requested the actual survey. Because the survey was done, we

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Speaker 8: all gave our opinions and seventy five percent, roughly over

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Speaker 8: seventy percent asked to keep it. They didn't want changes

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Speaker 8: to the uniform because the whole uniform is being changed anyway,

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Speaker 8: particularly the year thirteen one. People voted to keep it

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Speaker 8: the way it was, So that was not a true fact.

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Speaker 8: So I've been trying to find out what else.

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Speaker 2: You're an engaged you're an engaged parent.

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Speaker 8: Yes, some would call me that.

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Speaker 3: Whi's good. We need people like you in the community

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Speaker 2: Do you think engaged parent might be a euphemism.

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Speaker 8: Yes, another one. Yeah, But what we've been told now

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Speaker 8: be coming onto site who aren't students. And I believe

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Speaker 8: there are some who have done it. But my question

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Speaker 8: is why can't they wear a laniards. I've actually had

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Speaker 8: price two hundred and fifty lanyards which are printed with

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Speaker 8: card is about six dollars fifty.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad, are you on the PTA?

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Speaker 2: No, you should be.

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Speaker 8: I don't play well with others.

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Speaker 2: Enough dricks Papanui High School and this is a hard

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Speaker 2: question to answer. A guest is that one of those

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Speaker 8: For me, that's why that's what the new principle is

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Speaker 8: trying to do a lot more of. I mean, I

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Speaker 8: think Effen thinks it's a school. It's perfectly fine. I

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Speaker 8: know it's as big catchphrases to bring pride back into

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Speaker 8: earned in their minds, and I actually think they have

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden for a uniform is going to

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Speaker 8: change that, Yeah, And I think it's just been done

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Speaker 8: too quickly and it's a kneegic reaction. I think they

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Speaker 8: of doing it. And I think pride in the school

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Speaker 8: paths comes through from the bottom, rolling all these things

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Speaker 8: because they're saying that the year thirteens will now wear

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Speaker 1: Next.

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Speaker 2: Does Papa Nui High School have a song? School song?

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Speaker 8: I assume so, yes, yes, have I heard it?

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Speaker 9: And of it?

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Speaker 3: No love a good school song?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is pride in that? I can't remember the Nelson College song, But.

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Speaker 8: I didn't go to the school myself, so I don't

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Speaker 11: I know.

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Speaker 7: They will have.

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Speaker 8: Something and the new uniform they are proposing, apart from

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Speaker 8: the year three tea, which I think terrible, it's actually, just,

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Speaker 8: to be honest, a version of what they've got. It's

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Speaker 8: polo shirts, and the polo shirts I think are good

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Speaker 8: for kids, because I don't for me, they have an

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Speaker 8: I do have some and it's hard for them to

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Speaker 8: the new shirts have buttons. We've got all Scott Woolen

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Speaker 8: and even if they're not really real wall anymore. So

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Speaker 8: just the sort of more easy casual gear has gone

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Speaker 8: again because they wanted to make it obviously a more

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Speaker 8: But for me, you're just annoying kids. I've made other

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Speaker 3: Do they charge you quite a bit for the uniform?

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Speaker 8: The uniform currently is actually quite cheap because you can

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Speaker 8: buy most parts elsewhere. A new blazer, which is what

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Speaker 8: they're wanting to introduce, but it won't be compulsory to

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Speaker 8: be all fair, The new blazers, like Blazes, are two

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Speaker 8: hundred and eighty dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 8: But this year is year twelves going to thirteen can

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Speaker 8: just wear their old uniform. But it's not the same

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Speaker 8: thing as it. No not, they're not the musky that

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Speaker 8: they were promised.

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Speaker 3: But but just on the brand thing. Look, I know

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who have done well in

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Speaker 3: is sixteen and seventeen year old kids. That's part of

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Speaker 3: being a kid, right, is that you want to have

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Speaker 3: an element of that would still.

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Speaker 8: Happen probably for some kids, but for most of them,

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Speaker 8: I don't think it is. But also there's been no

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Speaker 8: interactional with the kids themselves. They're now year twelves will

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Speaker 8: see this as a problem because if you can't afford

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Speaker 8: can wear the school uniform if that's what parents want

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Speaker 8: to do. And I've been told yesterday that some kids

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Speaker 8: in year thirteen do still wear the uniform because they've

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Speaker 8: founded a better system. But I don't know, what's the number.

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Speaker 8: That's probably a very small percentage. So you can sort

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Speaker 8: of say you're trying to help those kids by punishing

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Speaker 8: everyone else. I think the Geneva Convention says that you're

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Speaker 8: not allowed to punish people for the crimes of others.

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Speaker 3: Wow, at high level, if you're bringing on the Geneva Convention,

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Speaker 3: I know, but.

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Speaker 8: It's sort of like, you know, you're punishing people for

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Speaker 8: you know, people get in trouble. Yeah, So I just

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Speaker 8: sort of think it's a real need joke because the

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Speaker 8: wants a new fancy uniform.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Well, thank you for calling him. Always

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Speaker 2: great to hear from an engaged parent and the perfect

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Speaker 2: person to talk to actually has children going to not

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Speaker 2: only Papanu High School, but hitting year thirteen next year

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Speaker 2: and missing out in the uniform.

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Speaker 3: Yep, great person to start this convo.

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Speaker 2: Worth.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call? What do you think about school uniforms

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Speaker 3: in year thirteen? The old seventh form? Love to get

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on.

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Speaker 2: This, Tyler time to admonish you you are not from Dunedin. No,

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Speaker 2: and you don't know local names. I know one of

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Speaker 2: the guys, Matt, Matt named, and I've heard of the

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Speaker 2: other one. Don't be a doubting Thomas. There you go.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm very sorry. Do you all know each other

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Speaker 3: down there?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 12: Hey?

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Speaker 3: He sounds like a good man to Marley, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there you go.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty four busts one, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eightyies the number.

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Speaker 1: To call, putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the

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Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 4: The constraints around information sharing is hindering government agencies and

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Speaker 4: responding to organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Where have we heard that before?

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Speaker 4: Steve Simon is the chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group.

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Speaker 14: I've been a prosecutor for twenty years and I think

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Speaker 14: it's been the bane of our existence in entire time.

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Speaker 14: If anything, I think it's probably got worse as comin

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Speaker 14: agencies have become more siloed and have become more risk adverse.

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Speaker 14: I think it starts with culture most I think your

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Speaker 14: point of it's been this consistent problem over the years.

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Speaker 14: What that's driving is this culture of if I don't share,

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Speaker 14: I won't get in trouble. If I do share, I

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Speaker 14: might get in trouble. So you can see which option

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Speaker 14: people are usually choosing.

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Speaker 4: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 4: Rain Drover News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty seven past one.

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Speaker 2: A good idea for a uniform for this group, but

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Speaker 2: should be based on business attire so the cost of

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Speaker 2: it is not wasted and could be used going forward

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Speaker 2: for formal will. That'd be an interesting idea. So it's

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Speaker 2: it's musty in the year thirteen, but you have to

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Speaker 2: dress like you're working in an office. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 2: law for a the war firm. See, because that actually

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Speaker 2: annoyed me when I was at school, because we had

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Speaker 2: muftiness in year thirteen right yep, which was called seventh

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Speaker 2: form back in that day. Yes, and I really liked

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Speaker 2: I thought I looked cool in the tie and the shirt.

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Speaker 2: I thought. I thought I looked really cool. And I

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Speaker 2: would wear my my school pants tucked into my tin

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Speaker 2: a really good look going. And I got a few

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Speaker 2: detentions for tucking my pants into my docks, but it

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Speaker 2: looked cool. Having them on the outside doesn't look cool now,

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Speaker 2: but at that time, and Daneeda, when I was growing up,

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Speaker 2: that was cool.

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Speaker 3: You're full of surprises, mate, that was cool.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so when but I couldn't turn up to

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Speaker 2: school dress like that when it wasn't the uniform, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because if I'd been wearing if you're wearing, if you

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Speaker 2: chose to wear a tie as Mufty, then.

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Speaker 3: They get beaten up on the street.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be in all kinds of trouble.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because the quote here from one of the

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good point if you want to

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Speaker 3: prepare for the real world. Suit up. Oh, e one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: I wonder how many people in favor of uniforms are

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Speaker 2: just mad because they had to wear them, and so

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Speaker 2: others should have to as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there'd be a bit of that.

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Speaker 2: Gray and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 16: Ye hi, guys. I'd just like to throw a bit

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Speaker 16: of context into this discussion, which is going almost straight

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Speaker 16: into fashion and brand cost I'm not from Papernui High School.

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Speaker 16: I'm christ Church resident. I've just read the paper this

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Speaker 16: morning with a balanced interview with the headmaster and he's talking, Yes,

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Speaker 16: the cost is an issue, but the whole problem for

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Speaker 16: him is control of the students on the campus. He said,

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Speaker 16: because there are the final year guys and girls wearing musty.

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Speaker 16: There are a lot of non students on the campus

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Speaker 16: during the day that they don't know who they are.

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Speaker 16: If they're wearing a uniform, they know those students. If

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Speaker 16: they're not wearing a uniform, they're not students. The issue

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Speaker 16: is that these people are probably coming are on his words,

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Speaker 16: coming on doing drug deals.

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Speaker 2: You're right, and there's a.

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Speaker 16: Whole bunch of issues. So you know, the context in

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Speaker 16: this discussion is crazy. It's not just fashion and no

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Speaker 16: attempts being made to go back and talk to the

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Speaker 16: head master of Papanui to get his views.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to. But what do you think about what

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Speaker 2: em said when she was addressing that she called up

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Speaker 2: and she's got a kid that's starting in year thirteen

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Speaker 2: next year at Papinouia and she said what she suggested

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Speaker 2: to the school is that kids have to wear a lanyard,

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Speaker 2: a lanyard with ID on it, and if they're going

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Speaker 2: to wear mufty would that Would that do enough for you? Graham?

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Speaker 16: Well, according to the article and the head master's comments,

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Speaker 16: that was something that wasn't particularly simple to arrange, and

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Speaker 16: according to him, I've got no feeling self. I personally

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Speaker 16: think that uniforms are the safest way of going. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: and you don't want to put pressure on some families

440
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Speaker 16: that couldn't afford it. It just keeps things sensible and balanced.

441
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Speaker 16: Everybody's the same and there's no need for any fashion

442
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Speaker 16: show and pressure social pressure on kids, which I think

443
00:20:29,693 --> 00:20:31,773
Speaker 16: is crazy anyway, there's enough of it going around now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And as a parent and a person that was

445
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Speaker 2: at school at one point, the fact that no one

446
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Speaker 2: has to make a decision in the morning what they're

447
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Speaker 2: going to wear. You just throw through You make sure

448
00:20:43,213 --> 00:20:45,693
Speaker 2: that the uniform's clean, it's gone through the laundry, and

449
00:20:45,733 --> 00:20:48,093
Speaker 2: that the kids and it's just good to go as

450
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Speaker 2: opposed to what am I going to wear? And you

451
00:20:50,733 --> 00:20:52,853
Speaker 2: know that the emotional energy that a kid has to

452
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Speaker 2: spend on deciding what they're going to wear and how

453
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Speaker 2: they fit in with any particular click I don't know.

454
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Speaker 2: I just feel that's the energy that you don't need

455
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Speaker 2: when you're in year thirteen. You just don't need it.

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Speaker 16: Yet totally agree and that the uniform absolves all that

457
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Speaker 16: plus the very real issues. I mean, patan Nui is

458
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Speaker 16: not an affluent area.

459
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Speaker 3: It's not it's not too bad Graham, to be fair,

460
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Speaker 3: it's not affluent, but it's metal of the road.

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Speaker 16: It's not the worst, no, But at the end of

462
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Speaker 16: the day, we know drug deals are going on at

463
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Speaker 16: all campuses, from christ College down to aaron Ui. You know,

464
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Speaker 16: that's just that's just what's happening and it's not going

465
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Speaker 16: to go away. And you've got to know who's on

466
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Speaker 16: your campus. That's why primary schools gates the lot because

467
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Speaker 16: they don't want creepy old men running around. I don't

468
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Speaker 16: know a whole bunch of safety reasons, but safety of

469
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Speaker 16: the children should be paramount.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, yeah, fair enough to well, I mean that's

471
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Speaker 2: that's I mean, it certainly makes that easier, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: I mean you could have an ex student, you know,

474
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Speaker 2: wearing their old uniform and coming on to school to

475
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Speaker 2: sell drugs. I mean that they could get around it,

476
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Speaker 2: but that would be probably more effort than they're wanting

477
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Speaker 2: to put it.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of strategy. Yeah, oh, one hundred and

479
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Speaker 3: eighteen eighty is the number to call. We are attempting

480
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Speaker 3: to get a hold of the principal, Robert Gilbert as well,

481
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Speaker 3: so hopefully we can have a check to him before

482
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Speaker 3: two o'clock. It is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 17: Youth talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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486
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Speaker 17: mega ferries contract is a good result. The final cost

487
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Speaker 17: all up with six hundred and seventy one million dollars

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Speaker 17: two hundred and twenty two million for the dockyard, four

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Speaker 17: hundred and forty nine million for infrastructure, project management and

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Speaker 17: wind down costs. A key we arrested heading home to

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Speaker 17: Australia over her more than fifty thousand dollars New Zealand

492
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Speaker 17: student loan debt, says it feels unnecessary. Her passport was

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Speaker 17: seized and she appeared and caught in christ Church on Monday.

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Speaker 17: needs addressing because it's dangerous and makes a profession unappealing.

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Speaker 17: wouldn't put them with the top forty earners in the

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Speaker 17: back to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, wend you're having a good discussion

505
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Speaker 3: about school uniforms Papa Nui High in christ Juts. It's

506
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Speaker 3: getting some pushback from the community, parents and students about

507
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Speaker 3: changing the uniform rules. Currently a year thirteen can wear

508
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Speaker 3: mufty not from next year though, they're going to bring

509
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Speaker 3: back uniforms for all, including year thirteen. What do you say, oh,

510
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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

511
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Speaker 2: This Texas says, what would you do if they demanded

512
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Speaker 2: that news talk zb radio host that to wear suits

513
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Speaker 2: to work. It's the similar thing. I'd like it. I'd

514
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Speaker 2: like to wear a full suit to work. I guess

515
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Speaker 2: I could.

516
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Speaker 3: Your standards have gone up consider really since you've started. Actually,

517
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Speaker 3: you've got a beautiful way ensemble going on now.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I just saw a social media post from

519
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Speaker 2: Mike co host from my last radio show on Music

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Speaker 2: Radio Radiode and he's nude in it, is he?

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Speaker 18: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Jesus, So I've got better standards than that up at

523
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Speaker 2: news talk zby.

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Speaker 3: If you want to send the text nine two ninety

525
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Speaker 3: two plenty coming through, but let's go to I think

526
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Speaker 3: it's great, great boys, How are you today? Very goods?

527
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Speaker 3: WA's your thoughts?

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Speaker 19: I've just prompted me.

529
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Speaker 7: In the corners.

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Speaker 19: I've just driven past the worst high school in the

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Speaker 19: city that I live in, and it's the only school

532
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Speaker 19: that has musty right the way through. And whenever you

533
00:24:42,493 --> 00:24:45,532
Speaker 19: talk to anybody about how you'd fixed the problem at

534
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Speaker 19: that school, everybody says, put a uniform on them. And

535
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Speaker 19: I think for me, when I was growing up, we

536
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Speaker 19: had a uniform. Everybody had the same uniform, didn't matter

537
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Speaker 19: whether you're in those those third form or the seventh form.

538
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Speaker 19: But moving forward a generation to my son, the school

539
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Speaker 19: that he went to, they took a huge amount of

540
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Speaker 19: pride in their uniform and the only difference that they

541
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Speaker 19: were allowed to have in the year to ravel thirteen

542
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Speaker 19: or whatever, it was different. They were different in Australi

543
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Speaker 19: than what they hear was they allowed to have a

544
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Speaker 19: blazer and they wore it with pride. And you know,

545
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Speaker 19: I just think that I can't see what the big

546
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Speaker 19: fuss is about. That guy made a very good point

547
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Speaker 19: about knowing who the kids are, not just anybody. But again,

548
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Speaker 19: perhaps the principals having problems with some of the year

549
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Speaker 19: thirteen kids and this is another way to help sort

550
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Speaker 19: it out.

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Speaker 2: So when you said before Graham that Greg sorry that

552
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Speaker 2: you think that, well, you know, people say that the

553
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Speaker 2: best way to sort out problems at the school that's

554
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Speaker 2: mufty all the time is the uniform. How do you

555
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Speaker 2: think that sorts out problems being in uniform from year nine?

556
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Speaker 19: Well, they're not necessarily constant training on the fashion or

557
00:25:55,813 --> 00:25:59,933
Speaker 19: the lipstick or the high heeled boots or whatever. They're

558
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Speaker 19: concentrating on perhaps doing a bit more school work because

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Speaker 19: they don't have to have a you know, and they

560
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Speaker 19: don't have to have a fashion parade every day. And

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Speaker 19: perhaps that there's a lot of I don't know, perhaps

562
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Speaker 19: there's some bullying going on with people that might necessarily

563
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Speaker 19: not afford to wear three hundred dollar piece of jeans

564
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Speaker 19: or three hundred dollar shoes or you know. And then

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Speaker 19: I just think that the school has always had problems,

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Speaker 19: and I just think that's the way they.

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Speaker 7: Can help fix it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is hard to argue, and we are

569
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Speaker 3: trying to get the principle on, but he did make

570
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Speaker 3: the comments that it is hard to to tell the

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Speaker 3: difference between a year a thirteen student and others coming

572
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Speaker 3: onto the school grounds who are not part of the school,

573
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Speaker 3: even trainee teachers, which is a fair point. And arguably,

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Speaker 3: having the year thirteens wear uniforms, they should be the

575
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Speaker 3: leaders of the school, trying to set the standards for

576
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Speaker 3: the younger kids at the school. So I think it's

577
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Speaker 3: probably more important that you wear a uniform later in

578
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Speaker 3: your school life rather than get a bit loosey goosey

579
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Speaker 3: towards the end.

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Speaker 19: I'd agree with that, because the school my son went

581
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Speaker 19: to in the final year, they were they were he

582
00:27:12,973 --> 00:27:14,613
Speaker 19: was anyway because of what he did, but they were

583
00:27:14,853 --> 00:27:17,533
Speaker 19: meant calls to the younger kids he was. Actually he

584
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Speaker 19: stayed in one of the boarding houses there, and he

585
00:27:19,853 --> 00:27:22,613
Speaker 19: was whatever they call them, you know, he was looking

586
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Speaker 19: after the boarding house is a year twoteen or year forty,

587
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Speaker 19: whatever they are. I don't know what they were in

588
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Speaker 19: Australia moment. That's what they were there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember the borders at Nelson College. It was

590
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Speaker 3: one of the punishments that if they'd done something wrong,

591
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Speaker 3: they were forced to wear the uniform and the weekend,

592
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Speaker 3: so everybody knew, Ah, what did you do?

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Speaker 2: What did you do? Never trust someone in a suit.

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Speaker 2: Never trust a man who wears a suit in the weekend, yeah, exactly.

595
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Speaker 2: Never trust a kid that's in the uniform of the weekend.

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00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,853
Speaker 2: They've probably done something wrong. When I've driven past. There's

597
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Speaker 2: a quite a famous Mufty school in Auckland that I

598
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Speaker 2: sometimes drive past. In it people, I don't know if

599
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Speaker 2: you ever want anyone who's as things familiar with than

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00:28:00,613 --> 00:28:03,453
Speaker 2: the Warriors. It's a nineteen seventy nine film directed by

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00:28:03,733 --> 00:28:06,253
Speaker 2: Walter Hill and it's got all these gangs and different

602
00:28:06,933 --> 00:28:09,413
Speaker 2: with complete All the gangs in this movie where the

603
00:28:09,453 --> 00:28:11,773
Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah, And it's a particular school that I

604
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Speaker 2: drove fast and it's like that all the kids going

605
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Speaker 2: through you've got the goths coming in, you've got the

606
00:28:15,773 --> 00:28:18,253
Speaker 2: emos coming in. You've got the punks going in, you've

607
00:28:18,253 --> 00:28:20,413
Speaker 2: got the green hair kids going in. You've got that,

608
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Speaker 2: You've got it.

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Speaker 3: It's a good show each morning to drive fast. I

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Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: of cool love to hear your thoughts about the uniform.

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Speaker 3: It is nineteen to two.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't the News talks he'd be uniform be strategically ripped

614
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Speaker 2: designer jeans with Marino cardigan and Christian de Button shoes,

615
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Speaker 2: says Henry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, with.

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Speaker 1: That a fresh take on talk Back, It's Matt Heath

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Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 2: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty US

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Speaker 2: Talks b Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It is sixteen to two. We're talking about school uniforms.

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Speaker 3: Papa Nui high for decades of let the year thirteen's

624
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Speaker 3: have mufty, but from next year that looks set to change.

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00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,013
Speaker 3: Is that a good idea of your thoughts? I eighte

626
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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: This Texas is who the hell is Christian de Button Well,

628
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Speaker 2: Christian de Bouton. I'm not probably I'm probably saying this

629
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Speaker 2: name Mark. You know, I'm not wearing a lot of Christian.

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Speaker 3: But but if you watch, if you watch Mike's minute,

631
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Speaker 3: and hopefully the camera pans down, you'll be able to

632
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Speaker 3: see what Christian de button is.

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00:29:21,693 --> 00:29:26,813
Speaker 2: Le bouton Christian l O UBO U T I N.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to get out there and buy some

635
00:29:28,813 --> 00:29:33,333
Speaker 2: very very expensive shoes snazzy, look good, yeah, beautiful. Actually,

636
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Speaker 2: if they handed those out at news talks EB, I'll

637
00:29:35,213 --> 00:29:39,173
Speaker 2: take a couple of pairs the Griggy Rocks shoes. Absolutely, yeah,

638
00:29:39,253 --> 00:29:41,133
Speaker 2: it's a good lock. You know they're pricey when they

639
00:29:41,173 --> 00:29:43,813
Speaker 2: don't put the price on the website. So one of

640
00:29:43,853 --> 00:29:45,213
Speaker 2: those one of those things.

641
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Speaker 3: If you have to ask and can't afford it.

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Speaker 2: Quiet there they go. Oh those are a beautiful pair

643
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Speaker 2: of shoes. Oh my god, I'd wear those.

644
00:29:51,573 --> 00:29:52,133
Speaker 3: What do they want?

645
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Speaker 2: It's a mere two thousand and twenty five dollars for

646
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Speaker 2: a pair of these lovely shiny Christian.

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Speaker 3: Oh great, I'll take three plenty of ticks coming through

648
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Speaker 3: a nine two nine two. But let's go to John

649
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Speaker 3: get a John.

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Speaker 15: Oh boy, how are you this afternoon? So that they

651
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Speaker 15: done in christ Church Oh.

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Speaker 2: It's a lovely day up here as well.

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Speaker 15: Right now. I think this whole discussion is really about authority.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 15: I think that a generation we have today going to

656
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Speaker 15: secondary schooling has lost the ability to respect authority. And

657
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Speaker 15: a rule is a rule, and if you don't like it,

658
00:30:46,293 --> 00:30:47,613
Speaker 15: you need to kick up the button.

659
00:30:48,373 --> 00:30:50,333
Speaker 3: You're a hard man, John, So.

660
00:30:52,733 --> 00:30:55,853
Speaker 2: Would you support students so having a say so as

661
00:30:55,853 --> 00:30:57,933
Speaker 2: long as they wear the uniform because at this point

662
00:30:57,973 --> 00:30:59,573
Speaker 2: no one's been forced to do it. Yet it comes

663
00:30:59,613 --> 00:31:03,133
Speaker 2: in next year and so these year thirteens now are

664
00:31:03,173 --> 00:31:08,893
Speaker 2: just voicing their concern about the change. But well, you

665
00:31:08,973 --> 00:31:09,813
Speaker 2: know that's kind of life.

666
00:31:11,653 --> 00:31:16,653
Speaker 15: Well, yeah, exactly, that is my point life. When you

667
00:31:16,973 --> 00:31:19,213
Speaker 15: leave school and you get.

668
00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:22,773
Speaker 7: A job, you have a boss nine times out.

669
00:31:22,733 --> 00:31:28,853
Speaker 15: Of ten and you have to follow the rules. Yeah,

670
00:31:29,173 --> 00:31:40,133
Speaker 15: that's basically my whole argument with this discussion. Okay, John, Exactly,

671
00:31:40,173 --> 00:31:46,293
Speaker 15: I've had three sons through a school here in christ Church.

672
00:31:48,653 --> 00:31:52,333
Speaker 15: There were aspects of the uniform they hated, but they

673
00:31:52,373 --> 00:31:55,093
Speaker 15: had to wear it and they went up on their

674
00:31:55,133 --> 00:32:01,093
Speaker 15: bikes every morning with half their shirt hanging out. I

675
00:32:01,173 --> 00:32:05,333
Speaker 15: gather they tucked it in when they entered the college

676
00:32:05,413 --> 00:32:12,933
Speaker 15: gates but you know it's it's one of life's lessons.

677
00:32:13,453 --> 00:32:18,173
Speaker 15: You have to learn to be told what to do.

678
00:32:18,573 --> 00:32:20,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call, John, I

679
00:32:20,093 --> 00:32:22,013
Speaker 2: appreciate that. And that's an opinion that a lot of

680
00:32:22,053 --> 00:32:24,733
Speaker 2: people agree with. I would say, however, no one has

681
00:32:24,773 --> 00:32:27,533
Speaker 2: pushed back against. No one's tried to push it because

682
00:32:27,573 --> 00:32:29,613
Speaker 2: it hasn't come in yet, this rule. You know, no

683
00:32:29,613 --> 00:32:31,933
Speaker 2: one's tried to test the boundaries. When I was at

684
00:32:32,213 --> 00:32:34,133
Speaker 2: my high school, we found out that one of the

685
00:32:34,133 --> 00:32:37,413
Speaker 2: teachers that was at the gate was colorblind. So then

686
00:32:37,533 --> 00:32:39,773
Speaker 2: what we would do is you'd see what kind of

687
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:43,453
Speaker 2: ridiculous colored jumper that looked exactly like the jumper you

688
00:32:43,453 --> 00:32:45,813
Speaker 2: were supposed to be wearing, you could get through the gate.

689
00:32:46,173 --> 00:32:48,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the good times in high school.

690
00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,493
Speaker 2: Was and I think it was mister Letts. I think

691
00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:51,373
Speaker 2: mister Littz. I found out it was colorblind so you

692
00:32:51,413 --> 00:32:51,933
Speaker 2: could get through.

693
00:32:52,053 --> 00:32:53,013
Speaker 3: So what colors worked?

694
00:32:53,293 --> 00:32:57,573
Speaker 2: Wow, the color was maroon for the actual shit the

695
00:32:57,613 --> 00:32:59,613
Speaker 2: actual shirt were supposed to be wearing was maroon. But

696
00:33:00,013 --> 00:33:02,133
Speaker 2: I think I got a I think I got sort

697
00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:04,573
Speaker 2: of a pinky shit jumper through that I borrowed off

698
00:33:04,573 --> 00:33:07,013
Speaker 2: one of my sisters so it was always it was

699
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:09,093
Speaker 2: pretty funny, like he'd look you up down and just

700
00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:10,373
Speaker 2: let you go through.

701
00:33:11,253 --> 00:33:14,693
Speaker 3: Oh mate, that's so good. Mark, how are you this afternight?

702
00:33:15,653 --> 00:33:17,173
Speaker 20: Well, thank you, gentlemen. I just want to start off

703
00:33:17,213 --> 00:33:19,373
Speaker 20: by saying, you guys are a breath of fresh air

704
00:33:19,413 --> 00:33:21,213
Speaker 20: on a network that sometimes can be a little hard

705
00:33:21,253 --> 00:33:23,453
Speaker 20: to listen to. You guys bring those real stories and

706
00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:27,173
Speaker 20: Matte just trying to call out a colorblind teacher is

707
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:29,773
Speaker 20: exactly what I'm talking about, a bit of reality to it.

708
00:33:31,973 --> 00:33:34,213
Speaker 20: I'm a little disappointed in myself because I actually thought

709
00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:37,093
Speaker 20: of I would not agree at all for someone like

710
00:33:37,173 --> 00:33:40,013
Speaker 20: John a. Auklans has a much better that than christ Church.

711
00:33:40,013 --> 00:33:42,893
Speaker 20: I want to start with that the weather is beautiful,

712
00:33:43,453 --> 00:33:45,773
Speaker 20: but no, I feel like she's absolutely struggle where I'm

713
00:33:45,773 --> 00:33:47,493
Speaker 20: met with this whole uniform thing as well, and it

714
00:33:47,533 --> 00:33:49,613
Speaker 20: annoys me because I try and be a listener that

715
00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:52,213
Speaker 20: doesn't necessarily need to partake in the conversation. I just

716
00:33:52,253 --> 00:33:55,253
Speaker 20: like to observe everyone else's opinions. But I just felt

717
00:33:55,253 --> 00:33:57,093
Speaker 20: like what John was saying is exactly on point with

718
00:33:57,133 --> 00:33:59,213
Speaker 20: where I'm met with my kids at school, and I

719
00:33:59,253 --> 00:34:02,493
Speaker 20: think I think it's a subconscious lesson that you learn

720
00:34:03,413 --> 00:34:05,253
Speaker 20: in school was a noise about the a's and b's,

721
00:34:05,493 --> 00:34:07,973
Speaker 20: you know, or the one plus ones. There's actually subconscious

722
00:34:08,093 --> 00:34:10,133
Speaker 20: less as you learn in the background that you don't

723
00:34:10,133 --> 00:34:12,493
Speaker 20: actually know you're learning, and uniform is a big one

724
00:34:12,493 --> 00:34:15,733
Speaker 20: of them. It's like, sometimes appropriate dress at certain areas

725
00:34:15,773 --> 00:34:17,893
Speaker 20: in life that you're going to have to go into

726
00:34:18,293 --> 00:34:20,692
Speaker 20: is summed up by a school uniform. Sorry, you're going

727
00:34:20,733 --> 00:34:22,773
Speaker 20: to have to dress up to this occasion. Sorry, you

728
00:34:22,773 --> 00:34:24,973
Speaker 20: know you can't be in this workplace dressed like that.

729
00:34:25,293 --> 00:34:27,293
Speaker 20: A simple example would be going to the club. Right

730
00:34:27,373 --> 00:34:29,773
Speaker 20: back in the day when clubs were actually bumping and

731
00:34:29,813 --> 00:34:32,692
Speaker 20: people did go there. You have a certain dress, you'd

732
00:34:32,693 --> 00:34:34,173
Speaker 20: have to wear, a certain dress code that you have

733
00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:34,652
Speaker 20: to go up to.

734
00:34:34,733 --> 00:34:37,693
Speaker 2: So I can't I can't account the number of times

735
00:34:37,693 --> 00:34:39,013
Speaker 2: when I was told I was too casual to get

736
00:34:39,013 --> 00:34:41,853
Speaker 2: into clubs when I was trying to go out.

737
00:34:43,253 --> 00:34:45,652
Speaker 20: So I figure, like, this is just one of those

738
00:34:45,693 --> 00:34:48,493
Speaker 20: subconscious lessons that we learn in school that help us

739
00:34:48,533 --> 00:34:50,893
Speaker 20: out in life later on. In the thing, and I mean,

740
00:34:50,933 --> 00:34:52,973
Speaker 20: I'm indifferent to it. Have a uniform, don't have a uniform.

741
00:34:53,053 --> 00:34:55,013
Speaker 20: I'm past school. I don't have to care about it anymore.

742
00:34:55,013 --> 00:34:56,652
Speaker 20: I've got kids if they were told that the school

743
00:34:56,693 --> 00:34:58,333
Speaker 20: they're going to is no longer in uniform, and that's

744
00:34:58,333 --> 00:35:00,613
Speaker 20: something else I'd go with. But it's it's not that

745
00:35:00,693 --> 00:35:02,652
Speaker 20: importance to me. It's not that biggest thing. But I

746
00:35:02,693 --> 00:35:05,493
Speaker 20: do think the importance is pointing out those subconscious lessons

747
00:35:05,493 --> 00:35:07,933
Speaker 20: we learned during our high school years that do prep

748
00:35:08,013 --> 00:35:09,813
Speaker 20: us for the Thanks.

749
00:35:09,613 --> 00:35:12,773
Speaker 2: So much, nicely said, what a great call, and what

750
00:35:12,813 --> 00:35:15,853
Speaker 2: a great voice, almost a broadcaster's voice.

751
00:35:15,893 --> 00:35:19,973
Speaker 3: Almost, Yeah, great delivery. The way he made his point

752
00:35:20,173 --> 00:35:21,293
Speaker 3: articulated argument.

753
00:35:21,693 --> 00:35:23,853
Speaker 2: Get that guy on radio. Yeah, there were some skills there,

754
00:35:23,933 --> 00:35:24,933
Speaker 2: absolutely right.

755
00:35:24,973 --> 00:35:28,013
Speaker 3: It is nine to two, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

756
00:35:28,053 --> 00:35:28,813
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

757
00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:33,692
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

758
00:35:33,773 --> 00:35:37,813
Speaker 1: eighty eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tylor Adams afternoons.

759
00:35:37,253 --> 00:35:41,133
Speaker 3: News talk news talks here be it is seven to two.

760
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:43,093
Speaker 2: That's that guy. What his nickname was at school? I

761
00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:43,692
Speaker 2: bet it was horse?

762
00:35:43,693 --> 00:35:43,973
Speaker 18: There was.

763
00:35:44,093 --> 00:35:45,613
Speaker 2: Why is it that there always seems to be a

764
00:35:45,653 --> 00:35:49,172
Speaker 2: horse and every sports team and.

765
00:35:48,373 --> 00:35:52,973
Speaker 3: Every horse horse. It's always one horse.

766
00:35:52,773 --> 00:35:56,172
Speaker 2: As as good a friend that gets called horse. After

767
00:35:56,213 --> 00:36:04,573
Speaker 2: the showers, Joe welcome to the show. Oh yeah, are

768
00:36:04,613 --> 00:36:04,813
Speaker 2: you not.

769
00:36:06,933 --> 00:36:09,853
Speaker 5: I'll be waiting a little while. Made it pretty short.

770
00:36:09,773 --> 00:36:12,453
Speaker 2: But nice, welcome to the show. Thank you for waiting.

771
00:36:14,053 --> 00:36:18,013
Speaker 5: IK no problem. But I think that the uniforms right

772
00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:21,652
Speaker 5: from studying school right through the ending school is all

773
00:36:21,693 --> 00:36:27,652
Speaker 5: about discipline and respect, and especially for the kids that

774
00:36:27,693 --> 00:36:29,732
Speaker 5: are not going to school, that are sort of making

775
00:36:29,773 --> 00:36:32,172
Speaker 5: happy going to school and they're not. If they leave

776
00:36:32,213 --> 00:36:35,573
Speaker 5: home in a uniform, everybody knows what school there should

777
00:36:35,613 --> 00:36:40,133
Speaker 5: be at and that's discipline, and it's so teaching. It's

778
00:36:40,133 --> 00:36:43,732
Speaker 5: probably more important to teach than that than what they're

779
00:36:43,733 --> 00:36:47,652
Speaker 5: doing at school. So I think it's the system is

780
00:36:47,853 --> 00:36:51,333
Speaker 5: a drift because of the left of respect in the lecordistliine.

781
00:36:51,973 --> 00:36:55,013
Speaker 2: That's all say, of course, Steve, and thank you so

782
00:36:55,093 --> 00:36:59,213
Speaker 2: much for waiting this text that disagrees totally against school uniforms.

783
00:36:59,213 --> 00:37:01,973
Speaker 2: There is not one school with an acceptable nice design.

784
00:37:02,253 --> 00:37:04,772
Speaker 2: If kids need to wear uniforms, teachers need to wear

785
00:37:05,613 --> 00:37:09,013
Speaker 2: them too. To set the example controversial, there used to

786
00:37:09,053 --> 00:37:10,973
Speaker 2: be a kind of a uniform for teachers. If you're

787
00:37:11,013 --> 00:37:12,692
Speaker 2: looking for a great book to read, there's a book

788
00:37:12,693 --> 00:37:15,172
Speaker 2: called The Accidental Teacher, written by my uncle Tim Heath

789
00:37:15,373 --> 00:37:17,733
Speaker 2: and it's his story as a teacher, and it's a

790
00:37:17,733 --> 00:37:20,493
Speaker 2: fantastic read. He's had such an interesting life as a teacher.

791
00:37:20,533 --> 00:37:24,453
Speaker 2: But he talks about when he was he was hired

792
00:37:24,493 --> 00:37:27,733
Speaker 2: to teach in the a wearras. I believe it was

793
00:37:28,253 --> 00:37:31,453
Speaker 2: small farm where he was getting paid half a sheep

794
00:37:31,773 --> 00:37:34,533
Speaker 2: a week, cutting half and dumped at his door as

795
00:37:34,533 --> 00:37:37,173
Speaker 2: part of his wages teaching at the small school. But anyway,

796
00:37:37,213 --> 00:37:39,773
Speaker 2: he turned up in the Auckland teachers uniform, which was

797
00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:42,733
Speaker 2: those walk shorts with the socks pulled up and the

798
00:37:42,773 --> 00:37:44,453
Speaker 2: short sleeved shirt with the tie.

799
00:37:44,613 --> 00:37:48,893
Speaker 3: Such a good lock, such a good locks.

800
00:37:47,613 --> 00:37:49,373
Speaker 2: Pulled right up to your knees. I think he used

801
00:37:49,373 --> 00:37:51,973
Speaker 2: to get taught that at teachers college. Go back to that.

802
00:37:52,173 --> 00:37:54,133
Speaker 3: It was serious business if you had a teacher turned

803
00:37:54,173 --> 00:37:55,933
Speaker 3: up and that you knew it was on. Yeah, this

804
00:37:56,013 --> 00:37:56,853
Speaker 3: guy knows what he's doing.

805
00:37:56,853 --> 00:37:58,773
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's any teachers left in New Zealand

806
00:37:58,813 --> 00:38:02,253
Speaker 2: that are still running that lock with the leather shoes,

807
00:38:02,293 --> 00:38:05,252
Speaker 2: the Oxford's and the socks pulled up and the walk

808
00:38:05,293 --> 00:38:08,733
Speaker 2: shorts and the shorts, the short sleeve shirt into the

809
00:38:08,773 --> 00:38:09,813
Speaker 2: pants with a tie.

810
00:38:09,893 --> 00:38:11,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's a bloody good look send us through

811
00:38:11,973 --> 00:38:16,813
Speaker 3: the photos. Nine nine two, Mark A. C. Peter, We've

812
00:38:16,813 --> 00:38:19,493
Speaker 3: got about forty seconds, my friends. Are you into our

813
00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:21,613
Speaker 3: uniforms or no yet?

814
00:38:21,773 --> 00:38:26,453
Speaker 7: Uniform right the way through my education? My daughter's currently uniform.

815
00:38:26,773 --> 00:38:29,333
Speaker 7: The other thing that I find interesting is when I

816
00:38:29,373 --> 00:38:33,213
Speaker 7: went to high school, every teacher knew who I was.

817
00:38:33,333 --> 00:38:37,373
Speaker 7: We were a school of one thousand students. So where

818
00:38:37,453 --> 00:38:40,453
Speaker 7: these people are saying that they don't know who's on

819
00:38:40,493 --> 00:38:43,933
Speaker 7: the campus that it's amazing to me, like I couldn't

820
00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:48,493
Speaker 7: do anything throughout the schooling time without Peter to go yeah,

821
00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:52,652
Speaker 7: oh yeah exactly. And I think times and changed, and

822
00:38:52,933 --> 00:38:56,293
Speaker 7: when it came to musty day, you dan not wear

823
00:38:56,333 --> 00:39:02,333
Speaker 7: anything were brand because of Barbadour and rugby and all

824
00:39:02,373 --> 00:39:03,172
Speaker 7: that at lunch some.

825
00:39:03,453 --> 00:39:06,493
Speaker 3: Exactly, Peter.

826
00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:07,693
Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off, but we've got to go

827
00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:07,933
Speaker 2: to the.

828
00:39:07,853 --> 00:39:12,093
Speaker 3: Break discussion coming up after two o'clock. Are you a pirate?

829
00:39:15,373 --> 00:39:19,173
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

830
00:39:19,213 --> 00:39:21,013
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

831
00:39:21,053 --> 00:39:25,373
Speaker 3: It'd be afternoon, Welcome back into the show. Six past two.

832
00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:28,813
Speaker 2: We're putting the uniform chat to bed. But I was

833
00:39:28,813 --> 00:39:32,453
Speaker 2: talking before about the old teacher's uniform, which was the

834
00:39:32,493 --> 00:39:35,893
Speaker 2: walk shorts with the socks pulled up, the Oxford shoes

835
00:39:35,893 --> 00:39:37,973
Speaker 2: I believe you'd call them Oxford shoes, and the short

836
00:39:38,013 --> 00:39:42,333
Speaker 2: sleeve I'm thinking pale yellow shirt with a with a

837
00:39:43,173 --> 00:39:45,813
Speaker 2: tie nailed it woodblock. But someone else says, you have

838
00:39:45,893 --> 00:39:49,133
Speaker 2: forgotten the Roman sandals in the summer, So the teacher

839
00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:51,253
Speaker 2: used to wear the Roman sandals in the summer. But

840
00:39:51,293 --> 00:39:53,413
Speaker 2: the teacher would have socks pulled up with the Roman

841
00:39:53,453 --> 00:39:56,013
Speaker 2: sandals in summer. That's right, and I believe that was

842
00:39:56,053 --> 00:39:58,773
Speaker 2: taught at I could be wrong Teachers College. I've got

843
00:39:58,813 --> 00:40:00,933
Speaker 2: to read my uncle's book, The Accidental Teacher again. It's

844
00:40:00,933 --> 00:40:02,893
Speaker 2: a fantastic book out on Allan and none one. If

845
00:40:03,173 --> 00:40:04,973
Speaker 2: you want to read it. You know, it's the life

846
00:40:05,013 --> 00:40:07,933
Speaker 2: of a teacher that lived a really really interesting life

847
00:40:07,933 --> 00:40:10,253
Speaker 2: where it body taught and some more. He was one

848
00:40:10,293 --> 00:40:12,212
Speaker 2: of those teachers that used to go off and find

849
00:40:12,213 --> 00:40:14,133
Speaker 2: people happy he's living in the bush to teach their

850
00:40:14,213 --> 00:40:15,692
Speaker 2: kids and make sure that they were doing stuff. It's

851
00:40:15,693 --> 00:40:19,773
Speaker 2: a fantastic bock. But yeah, he wore that uniform The

852
00:40:19,853 --> 00:40:23,573
Speaker 2: Accidental Teacher. Yeah, it's a great book, but but yeah,

853
00:40:23,573 --> 00:40:25,533
Speaker 2: that's right. And there, and there'd be a mustache in

854
00:40:25,573 --> 00:40:29,293
Speaker 2: that max as well. Yeah, powerful, absolutely is it time

855
00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:32,053
Speaker 2: to bring back that kind of that kind of look

856
00:40:32,093 --> 00:40:32,493
Speaker 2: for teachers.

857
00:40:32,573 --> 00:40:34,613
Speaker 3: I never missed around with those teachers. I will say

858
00:40:34,613 --> 00:40:36,293
Speaker 3: that that you miss around with a few teachers. But

859
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:39,133
Speaker 3: any teacher that dressed like that, you knew it was

860
00:40:39,213 --> 00:40:41,533
Speaker 3: business time and you can't step out of line because

861
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:43,453
Speaker 3: he knows what he's doing, or she for that matter.

862
00:40:43,533 --> 00:40:45,813
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was much of the female attire.

863
00:40:46,373 --> 00:40:48,813
Speaker 2: I think I think one of the last teachers that

864
00:40:49,053 --> 00:40:51,172
Speaker 2: I ever experienced, he was probably one of the last

865
00:40:51,173 --> 00:40:54,253
Speaker 2: teachers still wearing that uniform. He was an old school

866
00:40:54,533 --> 00:40:55,733
Speaker 2: when I was at school, I think his name was

867
00:40:55,733 --> 00:40:58,853
Speaker 2: mister Henderson, and he walked past me once and I said, handy, handy,

868
00:40:58,893 --> 00:41:02,653
Speaker 2: with you lay your eggs and and he whacked me. Yeah,

869
00:41:02,693 --> 00:41:04,333
Speaker 2: he gave me a massive clip around the ear.

870
00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:06,053
Speaker 3: I bet he did. Yeah, it would have been thinking

871
00:41:06,093 --> 00:41:07,973
Speaker 3: bring back the cane at that point. Yeah, old school

872
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,253
Speaker 3: love it right. We'll put that one to bed.

873
00:41:10,173 --> 00:41:12,292
Speaker 2: Because it's a week joke from a seven year old. Handy, handy,

874
00:41:12,293 --> 00:41:14,413
Speaker 2: with you lay your eggs? I mean, I need better material.

875
00:41:14,613 --> 00:41:16,933
Speaker 2: I deserved a clip for that you certainly did, right.

876
00:41:17,013 --> 00:41:20,533
Speaker 3: Let's have a chat about piracy. So back in the

877
00:41:20,973 --> 00:41:24,293
Speaker 3: early two thousands, we'll remember this. Torrenting was the norm.

878
00:41:25,053 --> 00:41:27,493
Speaker 3: Need the new Coldplay album on your iPod, The pirate

879
00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:30,453
Speaker 3: bay was there, the Romeo and Juliet movie, You'd go

880
00:41:30,453 --> 00:41:33,013
Speaker 3: to the pirate bay. Whatever you needed was accessible with

881
00:41:33,253 --> 00:41:35,773
Speaker 3: just a couple of cleques. But when the likes of

882
00:41:35,773 --> 00:41:39,373
Speaker 3: Netflix came around and now Disney Plus and Amazon, originally

883
00:41:39,693 --> 00:41:42,813
Speaker 3: everybody thought we're done with pirating. You can now have

884
00:41:43,093 --> 00:41:46,253
Speaker 3: so many movies and content for ten bucks a month

885
00:41:46,493 --> 00:41:48,133
Speaker 3: and everyone will be happy. That's a fair price.

886
00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:49,893
Speaker 2: It became too much of a pain in the ass

887
00:41:49,893 --> 00:41:52,413
Speaker 2: to pirate for people. They couldn't be bothered with dirty

888
00:41:52,453 --> 00:41:54,573
Speaker 2: torrent sites with their I don't know, I've never been

889
00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:56,613
Speaker 2: to one, but with their dirty ads on there and

890
00:41:56,733 --> 00:42:00,373
Speaker 2: naps to fell throw, and it was just that's the

891
00:42:00,373 --> 00:42:01,173
Speaker 2: way people are getting it.

892
00:42:01,173 --> 00:42:01,253
Speaker 21: Now.

893
00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:04,133
Speaker 2: They got the subscription and they seem to have solved

894
00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:05,493
Speaker 2: the pirating problem.

895
00:42:05,613 --> 00:42:08,653
Speaker 3: Yes, you'd think so, but now, as we know, Flicks

896
00:42:08,653 --> 00:42:09,573
Speaker 3: in particular.

897
00:42:09,213 --> 00:42:12,212
Speaker 2: But solve it. But they dampened it down.

898
00:42:12,413 --> 00:42:13,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, they made it easier.

899
00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:15,813
Speaker 2: Every day, people weren't pirating anymore.

900
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:18,693
Speaker 3: But that is starting to change, particularly in Europe, so

901
00:42:18,733 --> 00:42:21,533
Speaker 3: we know how much Netflix are raising their prices, the

902
00:42:21,533 --> 00:42:25,173
Speaker 3: same as happening with Disney Prime across the board HBO.

903
00:42:25,373 --> 00:42:29,133
Speaker 3: So now in Europe and in Sweden in particular, twenty

904
00:42:29,253 --> 00:42:33,172
Speaker 3: five percent of people reported pirating in twenty twenty four.

905
00:42:33,253 --> 00:42:36,533
Speaker 3: A quarter of the nation of Sweden said that they

906
00:42:36,573 --> 00:42:37,533
Speaker 3: would steal content.

907
00:42:38,293 --> 00:42:40,173
Speaker 2: So just looking at this, well a quarter of the

908
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:43,013
Speaker 2: nation of Sweden, dirty Swiss. Is that where the pirate

909
00:42:43,053 --> 00:42:46,333
Speaker 2: bay came from? I think it was piratebay dot org.

910
00:42:46,613 --> 00:42:50,653
Speaker 2: So how much is it to subscribe to Netflix now?

911
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:54,573
Speaker 2: So I subscribe to a family family Netflix for across it.

912
00:42:55,853 --> 00:42:58,293
Speaker 3: I think it's gone up to about thirty bucks a

913
00:42:58,293 --> 00:43:00,733
Speaker 3: month now is this? I'm sure it has. Where's my

914
00:43:00,813 --> 00:43:03,133
Speaker 3: last little email from Netflix? If I just search into

915
00:43:03,213 --> 00:43:07,413
Speaker 3: my because it made me irate at the time. Here

916
00:43:07,453 --> 00:43:09,692
Speaker 3: we go, price up date coming. This was sent on

917
00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:13,853
Speaker 3: the fourteenth of April. Thank you for being a valued

918
00:43:13,893 --> 00:43:15,173
Speaker 3: member since twenty seventeen.

919
00:43:15,213 --> 00:43:16,733
Speaker 2: Oh that's nice of them to say.

920
00:43:17,173 --> 00:43:19,973
Speaker 3: It's a good start, isn't it. I hope you are

921
00:43:20,133 --> 00:43:22,853
Speaker 3: enjoying everything Netflix has to offer. Yeah, I was, thank

922
00:43:22,853 --> 00:43:25,173
Speaker 3: you very much. We're updating your monthly price by the

923
00:43:25,173 --> 00:43:28,013
Speaker 3: way to twenty five dollars ninety nine on the fourteenth

924
00:43:28,013 --> 00:43:31,813
Speaker 3: of May twenty twenty five. You'll always find something that's

925
00:43:31,893 --> 00:43:34,373
Speaker 3: right for you and right for the moment. Thanks for

926
00:43:34,373 --> 00:43:35,293
Speaker 3: supporting Netflix.

927
00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:38,733
Speaker 2: So hammin and all that, Ai Garble, I missed what

928
00:43:38,813 --> 00:43:39,373
Speaker 2: the price.

929
00:43:39,253 --> 00:43:41,733
Speaker 3: Was, twenty five ninety nine per month.

930
00:43:41,533 --> 00:43:42,893
Speaker 2: And there's that for a family membership.

931
00:43:43,013 --> 00:43:44,093
Speaker 3: No, that's an individual one.

932
00:43:44,133 --> 00:43:46,733
Speaker 2: So just the basic boy oh boy.

933
00:43:46,613 --> 00:43:48,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're middle of the range. Do you

934
00:43:48,493 --> 00:43:50,813
Speaker 3: get the basic which is what ten EIGHTYP or whatever

935
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:52,773
Speaker 3: they call. It's a pretty low grade. We're kind of

936
00:43:52,813 --> 00:43:56,133
Speaker 3: in the middle. The high definition. But that's just for

937
00:43:56,213 --> 00:43:56,973
Speaker 3: one user.

938
00:43:57,053 --> 00:44:00,413
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So there's big money Sweden, isn't the Swiss?

939
00:44:00,933 --> 00:44:02,173
Speaker 2: Is that they're the Swedes?

940
00:44:02,693 --> 00:44:05,172
Speaker 3: Who cares it's in Europe. I mean, they're good looking people,

941
00:44:05,253 --> 00:44:07,093
Speaker 3: that's all I know. No, I knew when I said skin,

942
00:44:07,213 --> 00:44:07,732
Speaker 3: I knew when.

943
00:44:07,613 --> 00:44:11,093
Speaker 2: I said that out loud. I've made mistakes and always

944
00:44:11,133 --> 00:44:11,733
Speaker 2: keeps me honest.

945
00:44:12,053 --> 00:44:14,933
Speaker 3: They always get you, always get you, the Swedes, the Swedes.

946
00:44:15,373 --> 00:44:17,853
Speaker 3: But I mean it raises the question. I know a

947
00:44:17,893 --> 00:44:21,373
Speaker 3: few people that would use illegal streaming sites for movies

948
00:44:21,413 --> 00:44:22,493
Speaker 3: because it's very easy to do.

949
00:44:22,653 --> 00:44:27,333
Speaker 2: So I understand you know a few people that would

950
00:44:27,453 --> 00:44:30,253
Speaker 2: use the illegal I'm doing in verted commas here. You

951
00:44:30,333 --> 00:44:32,692
Speaker 2: are a friend of yours.

952
00:44:32,413 --> 00:44:36,373
Speaker 3: Tyler, A friend of a friend as a pirate, Yeah, exactly.

953
00:44:36,133 --> 00:44:37,533
Speaker 2: So very very common.

954
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:40,853
Speaker 3: Have you ever honestly called Because there's a lot of

955
00:44:40,893 --> 00:44:43,573
Speaker 3: content now that gets made overseas and it's part of

956
00:44:43,573 --> 00:44:47,133
Speaker 3: these distribution deals, but we don't get them at the

957
00:44:47,173 --> 00:44:49,813
Speaker 3: same time as everybody else. Sometimes we never get them.

958
00:44:50,093 --> 00:44:54,733
Speaker 2: Well, listen to this, Tyler. Listen to this, Tyler, you

959
00:44:54,773 --> 00:45:06,692
Speaker 2: are carbs. Listen to this. Oh that takes me back.

960
00:45:09,293 --> 00:45:10,212
Speaker 3: You wouldn't steal a.

961
00:45:10,173 --> 00:45:16,093
Speaker 2: Car, you wouldn't steal a handbag, So why would you

962
00:45:16,133 --> 00:45:18,373
Speaker 2: pirate a movie? That's I still stand by that.

963
00:45:18,413 --> 00:45:20,453
Speaker 3: Oh that is Yeah, that takes me back. I mean,

964
00:45:20,493 --> 00:45:22,893
Speaker 3: as you're mentioning a little bit earlier, the irony with

965
00:45:22,973 --> 00:45:25,133
Speaker 3: that WEE video clapp is you only got it on

966
00:45:25,133 --> 00:45:28,253
Speaker 3: the DVDC each you purchased with money. If you pirateed stuff,

967
00:45:28,253 --> 00:45:29,293
Speaker 3: you never got that message.

968
00:45:29,333 --> 00:45:32,413
Speaker 2: So the question on eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

969
00:45:32,933 --> 00:45:35,373
Speaker 2: as follows, Are you happy with the amount you're paying

970
00:45:35,413 --> 00:45:38,213
Speaker 2: for streamings? Do you think you're getting a value for money.

971
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:41,893
Speaker 2: And if not, and you want to watch the stuff,

972
00:45:42,653 --> 00:45:43,933
Speaker 2: are you out there pirating?

973
00:45:44,133 --> 00:45:44,453
Speaker 13: Yeah?

974
00:45:44,493 --> 00:45:46,333
Speaker 3: Are you a pirate? Is there anything wrong with being

975
00:45:46,373 --> 00:45:46,853
Speaker 3: a pirate?

976
00:45:47,053 --> 00:45:50,413
Speaker 2: With a with a cone of anim anonymity here? Yeah?

977
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:52,533
Speaker 2: But if you're pirating, we want to hear from you.

978
00:45:52,893 --> 00:45:53,973
Speaker 2: Hundred and eighty ten eighty.

979
00:45:54,093 --> 00:45:57,053
Speaker 3: It is thirteen past two.

980
00:45:57,013 --> 00:46:01,212
Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons

981
00:46:01,413 --> 00:46:04,613
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us Talk said.

982
00:46:04,333 --> 00:46:04,493
Speaker 10: Be.

983
00:46:06,293 --> 00:46:09,293
Speaker 3: Very good, afternoon cheer. We're talking about pirate. It's on

984
00:46:09,453 --> 00:46:11,613
Speaker 3: the rise over in Europe where they've had enough of

985
00:46:11,613 --> 00:46:14,573
Speaker 3: paying for Netflix and Disney and they are now going

986
00:46:14,613 --> 00:46:16,573
Speaker 3: to illegal stream So is that the case with you?

987
00:46:16,613 --> 00:46:17,973
Speaker 3: By one hundred and eighteen eighty.

988
00:46:17,773 --> 00:46:20,253
Speaker 2: I just want to quickly mention an area of moral

989
00:46:20,333 --> 00:46:23,652
Speaker 2: ambiguity if you don't believe in pirating a movie. But

990
00:46:23,693 --> 00:46:28,213
Speaker 2: what happens if no streaming service in New Zealand or

991
00:46:29,493 --> 00:46:31,973
Speaker 2: there's just nowhere it's available in New Zealand and the

992
00:46:32,013 --> 00:46:36,493
Speaker 2: only way you can watch it is illegally. What do

993
00:46:36,493 --> 00:46:37,013
Speaker 2: you think about that?

994
00:46:37,333 --> 00:46:37,573
Speaker 6: Oh?

995
00:46:37,973 --> 00:46:38,172
Speaker 9: What?

996
00:46:38,733 --> 00:46:40,493
Speaker 3: I suppose it depend on the TV show.

997
00:46:41,213 --> 00:46:43,573
Speaker 2: Well, say you wanted to watch I don't know this.

998
00:46:43,813 --> 00:46:45,733
Speaker 2: There's been there's some that just don't come out yet.

999
00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:47,373
Speaker 3: I'll tell you watch one. I would tell you what.

1000
00:46:47,333 --> 00:46:49,973
Speaker 2: Recently I wanted to watch twenty eight days, No, twenty

1001
00:46:50,013 --> 00:46:53,652
Speaker 2: eight hours later. Yep, fantastic movie The Lost of It

1002
00:46:53,653 --> 00:46:56,373
Speaker 2: looks amazing. That is not available on any I think

1003
00:46:56,373 --> 00:46:58,533
Speaker 2: it isn't. This is something I always tell people. Just

1004
00:46:58,573 --> 00:47:01,293
Speaker 2: watch dot com as a fantastic site to find out

1005
00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:04,133
Speaker 2: what streaming services have movies on them.

1006
00:47:04,893 --> 00:47:06,653
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the one that I would pirate generally

1007
00:47:06,733 --> 00:47:08,093
Speaker 3: if I think it will come here. But if it

1008
00:47:08,093 --> 00:47:10,853
Speaker 3: did it the second season of Fallout that if it

1009
00:47:10,853 --> 00:47:12,413
Speaker 3: didn't make it to New Zealand, that would be something

1010
00:47:12,493 --> 00:47:16,013
Speaker 3: I'd go and pirate. I'd have no qualms about that.

1011
00:47:16,213 --> 00:47:19,013
Speaker 2: So on on, in front of hundreds of thousands of people,

1012
00:47:19,013 --> 00:47:23,533
Speaker 2: you've just admitted you're a criminal. Yeah, you're planning to

1013
00:47:23,533 --> 00:47:25,093
Speaker 2: because because you because you seem to know a lot

1014
00:47:25,093 --> 00:47:26,893
Speaker 2: about pirating. You just said, I'll just do it, so

1015
00:47:26,933 --> 00:47:28,333
Speaker 2: you know how to do it. Hey, I was going

1016
00:47:28,373 --> 00:47:30,253
Speaker 2: to call, but I'm not sure. If you're a cop,

1017
00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:32,893
Speaker 2: you have to legally let us know. If you're a cop.

1018
00:47:33,093 --> 00:47:34,853
Speaker 3: That's very fair. I did just say that I would

1019
00:47:34,893 --> 00:47:37,373
Speaker 3: happily pirates, so that would give you your answer.

1020
00:47:37,293 --> 00:47:38,252
Speaker 2: Jeff, welcome to the show.

1021
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:40,293
Speaker 10: Hey, how's it going.

1022
00:47:40,613 --> 00:47:41,973
Speaker 2: Do you want to use a pseudonym for this?

1023
00:47:42,973 --> 00:47:43,573
Speaker 22: No, it's fine.

1024
00:47:43,813 --> 00:47:45,573
Speaker 2: Okay, it's too late now anyway.

1025
00:47:46,013 --> 00:47:48,973
Speaker 10: And see, you're exactly right. What if it doesn't come

1026
00:47:49,013 --> 00:47:50,973
Speaker 10: out in New Zealand? What are you going to do?

1027
00:47:52,493 --> 00:47:53,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

1028
00:47:54,853 --> 00:47:55,172
Speaker 15: I am.

1029
00:47:55,253 --> 00:47:58,813
Speaker 10: I recently downloaded Space nineteen ninety nine, the TV show

1030
00:47:58,853 --> 00:47:59,493
Speaker 10: from the sixties.

1031
00:48:01,493 --> 00:48:03,853
Speaker 2: Oh my god. So that was super Marionation, wasn't it.

1032
00:48:03,893 --> 00:48:06,053
Speaker 2: That was from the people that may Thunderbirds.

1033
00:48:06,093 --> 00:48:10,773
Speaker 10: Yeah, Gerry Anderson live action, Yeah, action with Martin Lander.

1034
00:48:11,213 --> 00:48:11,693
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1035
00:48:11,853 --> 00:48:14,973
Speaker 2: See I watched some of us on on YouTube the

1036
00:48:15,053 --> 00:48:19,053
Speaker 2: other day, very sixy outfits. You've got to say, Jeff, Oh.

1037
00:48:19,013 --> 00:48:21,573
Speaker 10: Yeah, awesome. And I've even learned about their command structures

1038
00:48:21,573 --> 00:48:23,493
Speaker 10: based on the color of their left sleeve and all

1039
00:48:23,493 --> 00:48:29,573
Speaker 10: that it red, brown, yellow. It's hilarious. Yeah. I've got

1040
00:48:29,613 --> 00:48:33,893
Speaker 10: about two thousand Blu Ray at home. Yeah, because that

1041
00:48:34,053 --> 00:48:36,213
Speaker 10: gives me control over when and how I want to

1042
00:48:36,253 --> 00:48:36,813
Speaker 10: watch something.

1043
00:48:37,933 --> 00:48:38,213
Speaker 2: Wow.

1044
00:48:38,573 --> 00:48:41,413
Speaker 10: Okay, I've paid for my Blue Ray, so I've paid

1045
00:48:41,453 --> 00:48:44,212
Speaker 10: for what was available and we only have JB High

1046
00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:47,973
Speaker 10: Fight here. That's seldom in retail because the cost of

1047
00:48:48,333 --> 00:48:53,613
Speaker 10: classification is just super high dollars plus for a little sticker.

1048
00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:56,652
Speaker 3: I've heard this argument online and can you get your

1049
00:48:56,733 --> 00:48:59,053
Speaker 3: view on it, Jeff, that a lot of the people

1050
00:48:59,053 --> 00:49:01,413
Speaker 3: who use the pirate sites on a regular basis say,

1051
00:49:01,493 --> 00:49:05,652
Speaker 3: if we don't own the content, then there's nothing wrong

1052
00:49:05,693 --> 00:49:08,133
Speaker 3: with piroty. And what they mean by that is the

1053
00:49:08,413 --> 00:49:11,613
Speaker 3: flex you've got to regularly subscribe on a monthly basis

1054
00:49:11,613 --> 00:49:13,893
Speaker 3: and keep paying for it, whereas back in the day

1055
00:49:13,893 --> 00:49:15,773
Speaker 3: that you're talking about with the Blu Ray, you pay

1056
00:49:15,773 --> 00:49:17,573
Speaker 3: a one off cost and you've got it for life.

1057
00:49:17,613 --> 00:49:22,013
Speaker 3: So there's a bit of pushback about the old subscription methodology.

1058
00:49:22,733 --> 00:49:25,652
Speaker 10: Exactly like you pay well three hundred and sixty odd

1059
00:49:25,693 --> 00:49:29,973
Speaker 10: dollars for Netflix a year. I pay forty dollars for

1060
00:49:30,013 --> 00:49:33,773
Speaker 10: a TV movie. I'm watched this about one hundred times

1061
00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:35,253
Speaker 10: before I get the thick of it.

1062
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:37,973
Speaker 3: You got some funky music playing in the background. I'm

1063
00:49:37,973 --> 00:49:40,173
Speaker 3: going to say, Jeff, what are you going going on around?

1064
00:49:40,773 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 3: Oh you're at the warehouse. Oh they've got a good

1065
00:49:42,413 --> 00:49:42,813
Speaker 3: sound trick.

1066
00:49:43,973 --> 00:49:48,253
Speaker 10: Yeah, on camera, millionto Crimes and all that.

1067
00:49:48,573 --> 00:49:51,133
Speaker 2: Hey, did you see you're a huge fan of movies, Jeff.

1068
00:49:51,173 --> 00:49:53,133
Speaker 2: Obviously with all your Blu Rays. Did you see the

1069
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:56,293
Speaker 2: New York Times Top one hundred best movies of the

1070
00:49:56,293 --> 00:49:57,652
Speaker 2: twenty first century that came out?

1071
00:49:58,813 --> 00:50:00,813
Speaker 10: No, I haven't seen that. You heard about it? Yeah,

1072
00:50:00,853 --> 00:50:04,453
Speaker 10: my father's number one. Yes, No, Parasite is number one,

1073
00:50:05,653 --> 00:50:06,453
Speaker 10: the Korean movie.

1074
00:50:06,653 --> 00:50:08,493
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1075
00:50:08,853 --> 00:50:12,053
Speaker 10: See that's something else that you don't always get as

1076
00:50:12,493 --> 00:50:14,293
Speaker 10: foreign films on Netflix or business.

1077
00:50:14,613 --> 00:50:18,893
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Okay, you're so, you're a huge fan of movies,

1078
00:50:18,933 --> 00:50:21,333
Speaker 2: and you're willing to pay top dollar for your Blu rays.

1079
00:50:21,853 --> 00:50:23,813
Speaker 2: But if they can't get it for you, you're going

1080
00:50:23,853 --> 00:50:26,493
Speaker 2: to go to the dark Arts of Tyrantine to get it.

1081
00:50:26,813 --> 00:50:27,053
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1082
00:50:27,213 --> 00:50:30,573
Speaker 10: If I can't get it from New Zealand, Australia or

1083
00:50:30,613 --> 00:50:35,933
Speaker 10: even America, I'll download it all right, trade me their gold.

1084
00:50:36,053 --> 00:50:36,212
Speaker 14: Now.

1085
00:50:36,333 --> 00:50:38,453
Speaker 2: Well, here's your top ten according to the New York

1086
00:50:39,093 --> 00:50:42,373
Speaker 2: Times Best movies of the twenty fifth century, Jeff, Parasite.

1087
00:50:42,413 --> 00:50:44,013
Speaker 2: Tell me if you've got any of these on Blu Ray.

1088
00:50:44,293 --> 00:50:48,773
Speaker 2: Parasite at number one, Mulholland Drive at two. There will

1089
00:50:48,773 --> 00:50:52,933
Speaker 2: be Blood, great movie for in the Mood for Love, Moonlight,

1090
00:50:53,053 --> 00:50:55,333
Speaker 2: No Country for Old Men, Great movie, Eternal Sunshine, of

1091
00:50:55,373 --> 00:50:58,773
Speaker 2: the spotless mind. Great movie get out, great movie Spirit

1092
00:50:58,773 --> 00:50:59,253
Speaker 2: It Away.

1093
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:03,333
Speaker 10: Yes, I love that movie Spirit It Away, the animated Yeah.

1094
00:51:02,693 --> 00:51:05,453
Speaker 2: That's a great movie. And the social network at ten.

1095
00:51:06,413 --> 00:51:07,853
Speaker 10: Yeah, got that there.

1096
00:51:07,973 --> 00:51:08,212
Speaker 2: Nice.

1097
00:51:08,333 --> 00:51:09,133
Speaker 3: You're a good man.

1098
00:51:09,213 --> 00:51:10,133
Speaker 2: But if any of them.

1099
00:51:10,053 --> 00:51:11,732
Speaker 10: Were there, I'm doing all right.

1100
00:51:11,973 --> 00:51:16,053
Speaker 2: Yeah you JF. Will just hand your details over to

1101
00:51:16,253 --> 00:51:16,733
Speaker 2: the police.

1102
00:51:16,813 --> 00:51:16,853
Speaker 20: No.

1103
00:51:17,733 --> 00:51:19,893
Speaker 3: Two thousand, blu Ray, that is a good going. Oh

1104
00:51:19,933 --> 00:51:21,772
Speaker 3: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1105
00:51:21,813 --> 00:51:22,093
Speaker 3: of call.

1106
00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:24,573
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm wrong about twenty eight days Later. Twenty eight

1107
00:51:24,653 --> 00:51:27,893
Speaker 2: days Later wasn't available for a while, but now it's

1108
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:29,133
Speaker 2: available on Disney.

1109
00:51:28,933 --> 00:51:31,453
Speaker 3: Good streaming, so you don't need to piraate any great movie.

1110
00:51:31,533 --> 00:51:33,573
Speaker 3: It is twenty one past two.

1111
00:51:38,013 --> 00:51:41,692
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1112
00:51:41,773 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk zb A you.

1113
00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:46,573
Speaker 3: A dirty old pirate. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1114
00:51:46,613 --> 00:51:47,533
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

1115
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:49,973
Speaker 2: My partner Tracy's listening and she said, shall we watch

1116
00:51:50,013 --> 00:51:53,373
Speaker 2: twenty eight days Later tonight on Disney and outstreaming there.

1117
00:51:53,373 --> 00:51:55,293
Speaker 3: I say, yes, yes, yeah, you've got Disney.

1118
00:51:55,373 --> 00:51:58,293
Speaker 2: Yes. Before I said let's that, I couldn't find it,

1119
00:51:58,333 --> 00:52:01,013
Speaker 2: but it is available yeah, but if it wasn't if

1120
00:52:01,013 --> 00:52:02,813
Speaker 2: it wasn't available in New Zealand, as it wasn't a

1121
00:52:02,773 --> 00:52:06,213
Speaker 2: wee while ago. I think often the stream is when

1122
00:52:06,253 --> 00:52:09,413
Speaker 2: a new movie in a franchise comes out, they'll throw

1123
00:52:09,493 --> 00:52:12,253
Speaker 2: the other ones up here. I'm very excited about the

1124
00:52:12,253 --> 00:52:14,373
Speaker 2: remake of Naked Gun or the new version of Naked

1125
00:52:14,413 --> 00:52:16,413
Speaker 2: Gun that's coming out. So yes, when you're on Netflix,

1126
00:52:16,453 --> 00:52:18,652
Speaker 2: they're throwing up all kinds of Naked Gun movies, all

1127
00:52:18,653 --> 00:52:19,133
Speaker 2: three of them.

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00:52:19,213 --> 00:52:20,293
Speaker 3: They are Naked.

1129
00:52:19,973 --> 00:52:23,013
Speaker 2: Gun, Naked Gun thirty three and the third their Final Insult,

1130
00:52:23,053 --> 00:52:24,973
Speaker 2: and Naked Gun two and a half The Smell of

1131
00:52:25,013 --> 00:52:26,013
Speaker 2: Fear are all up there at the moment.

1132
00:52:26,053 --> 00:52:27,773
Speaker 3: When does that come into New Zealand? You're going to

1133
00:52:27,973 --> 00:52:28,973
Speaker 3: the first screening?

1134
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:30,652
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah? So I think it's out in

1135
00:52:30,653 --> 00:52:33,212
Speaker 2: New Zealand on the twenty. Yeah, when is it. I'm

1136
00:52:33,293 --> 00:52:35,973
Speaker 2: very excited about that movie. Yeah, oh one hundred find

1137
00:52:35,973 --> 00:52:37,613
Speaker 2: out when it's out in New Zealand. Eighty ten eighty

1138
00:52:37,733 --> 00:52:39,293
Speaker 2: is the number to call. We've got a lot of

1139
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:41,813
Speaker 2: people on the line. If you can't get through, keep trying.

1140
00:52:42,933 --> 00:52:46,333
Speaker 2: A couple of good texts as well. Guys in the

1141
00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:48,453
Speaker 2: late nineties, while living in Moscow, there used to be

1142
00:52:48,453 --> 00:52:50,413
Speaker 2: a CD market set up in one of the central

1143
00:52:50,453 --> 00:52:53,133
Speaker 2: city parks where you could buy pirated CDs, movies and

1144
00:52:53,173 --> 00:52:56,333
Speaker 2: PlayStation games. Price was cheap and quality was even worse.

1145
00:52:56,413 --> 00:52:59,293
Speaker 3: Some movies were so bad it was literally where a

1146
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:01,573
Speaker 3: guy had smuggled a video camera into a theater and

1147
00:53:01,613 --> 00:53:03,973
Speaker 3: filmed the screen so you could see people moving about

1148
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:06,493
Speaker 3: and eating. As I said, they were cheap bit crap

1149
00:53:06,573 --> 00:53:08,013
Speaker 3: from John The Naked.

1150
00:53:07,693 --> 00:53:10,173
Speaker 2: Gun twenty twenty five is out in cinemas and New

1151
00:53:10,213 --> 00:53:13,133
Speaker 2: Zealand on the twenty first of August, starring Liam Neeson

1152
00:53:13,493 --> 00:53:16,573
Speaker 2: and Pamela Anderson. Niki, welcome to the show.

1153
00:53:18,253 --> 00:53:18,853
Speaker 23: Are you boy?

1154
00:53:19,773 --> 00:53:20,373
Speaker 2: Very good?

1155
00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:20,773
Speaker 1: How are you?

1156
00:53:22,253 --> 00:53:22,613
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1157
00:53:22,653 --> 00:53:24,573
Speaker 7: Bloody gird mate, I just saw it.

1158
00:53:24,613 --> 00:53:26,693
Speaker 23: I'll let you know if you guys heard about the

1159
00:53:26,853 --> 00:53:31,133
Speaker 23: old Amazon five sticks, mate, I.

1160
00:53:31,093 --> 00:53:35,133
Speaker 2: Think someone's runging before them about them before? Yeah? How

1161
00:53:35,133 --> 00:53:35,613
Speaker 2: do they work?

1162
00:53:35,653 --> 00:53:36,252
Speaker 15: How do they work?

1163
00:53:36,333 --> 00:53:36,613
Speaker 2: Nicky?

1164
00:53:38,093 --> 00:53:38,413
Speaker 15: Well?

1165
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:40,773
Speaker 23: Mate, I tell you a friend of a friend, though

1166
00:53:40,773 --> 00:53:41,773
Speaker 23: accomplice of mine.

1167
00:53:42,333 --> 00:53:46,253
Speaker 21: He was showing me through it the other day. Any

1168
00:53:46,373 --> 00:53:50,373
Speaker 21: streaming site you want from Netflix, doesn't he anything anywhere

1169
00:53:50,373 --> 00:53:53,013
Speaker 21: in the world you can access it and litt alone

1170
00:53:53,093 --> 00:53:56,893
Speaker 21: that you get any sports TV all across the world, mate,

1171
00:53:57,013 --> 00:53:59,732
Speaker 21: all on one five sticks the credible far out.

1172
00:54:00,413 --> 00:54:03,293
Speaker 3: So is it quite Do you have to have a

1173
00:54:03,293 --> 00:54:05,893
Speaker 3: bit of technical now to have a week jail broken

1174
00:54:05,933 --> 00:54:06,373
Speaker 3: five stick?

1175
00:54:07,893 --> 00:54:13,693
Speaker 23: I think guy that breaks it as quite typically now sah, yeah.

1176
00:54:13,573 --> 00:54:16,973
Speaker 3: Right, I think I again like you, Nikki, I've got

1177
00:54:17,013 --> 00:54:18,652
Speaker 3: a friend of a friend who I think operates one

1178
00:54:18,653 --> 00:54:20,453
Speaker 3: of these, and he sees you can even tap into

1179
00:54:20,453 --> 00:54:22,933
Speaker 3: CCTV cameras if you want to go have a look

1180
00:54:22,933 --> 00:54:25,813
Speaker 3: at what's happening in San Diego Zoo. That's all part

1181
00:54:25,813 --> 00:54:28,053
Speaker 3: of it. It's kind of everything under the sun, isn't it?

1182
00:54:30,293 --> 00:54:33,212
Speaker 23: Also sculling down the other day and there there's even

1183
00:54:33,653 --> 00:54:36,213
Speaker 23: a cooking show on there of some sorts that started

1184
00:54:36,253 --> 00:54:39,053
Speaker 23: with XIX and I was specializing in cream pie.

1185
00:54:39,613 --> 00:54:43,573
Speaker 2: Wow, sounds very interesting. Yeah, I think I'm sure Tyler

1186
00:54:43,573 --> 00:54:45,652
Speaker 2: will be looking into that. Nikki. Yeah, thank you very much.

1187
00:54:45,653 --> 00:54:49,573
Speaker 2: Thanks for your cal this text of Pulses. Tell her

1188
00:54:49,613 --> 00:54:52,013
Speaker 2: you can't watch it tonight because of the Warriors game.

1189
00:54:52,013 --> 00:54:53,933
Speaker 2: You see, I'm going out to the Warriors pool, so

1190
00:54:54,733 --> 00:54:56,933
Speaker 2: I'll be having to watch twenty eight days later.

1191
00:54:57,013 --> 00:54:58,093
Speaker 3: You can save that for Saturday.

1192
00:54:58,253 --> 00:55:00,853
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to watch it when I get home mates, Okay,

1193
00:55:01,133 --> 00:55:03,893
Speaker 2: it's not a school day. Wel from the show. Mark

1194
00:55:04,573 --> 00:55:06,893
Speaker 2: you're you're a big fan of the VHS days.

1195
00:55:07,693 --> 00:55:10,413
Speaker 24: I always it was so easy. There was only two

1196
00:55:10,453 --> 00:55:15,453
Speaker 24: systems in TSC and power and the systems. By the

1197
00:55:15,533 --> 00:55:19,253
Speaker 24: early nineties all machines played either, and it was it

1198
00:55:19,293 --> 00:55:21,493
Speaker 24: was you could get taps from all across the world.

1199
00:55:21,853 --> 00:55:24,893
Speaker 24: The Japanese send out you've seen out their wrestling tapes

1200
00:55:24,893 --> 00:55:28,253
Speaker 24: to America. Americans sing there is for Japan. It was

1201
00:55:28,333 --> 00:55:31,053
Speaker 24: a simple two way system where by it was just

1202
00:55:31,133 --> 00:55:34,333
Speaker 24: whatever you recorded or whatever was released in your environment,

1203
00:55:34,413 --> 00:55:38,293
Speaker 24: you could share it very easily. And when we went

1204
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:42,772
Speaker 24: to DVD and we got the six regions, the one, two, three, four, five,

1205
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:45,413
Speaker 24: and zero, and then we went to Blu ray and

1206
00:55:45,493 --> 00:55:51,373
Speaker 24: we got a B and C and all regional licensing

1207
00:55:51,453 --> 00:55:53,533
Speaker 24: deals and that's sort of how we get locked in

1208
00:55:53,853 --> 00:55:58,533
Speaker 24: and the regional licensing deals. In terms of distribution, for example,

1209
00:55:58,573 --> 00:56:01,733
Speaker 24: you always see that on TV show distributed by you

1210
00:56:01,813 --> 00:56:05,333
Speaker 24: know particularly they owned the market, they have exclusive rights

1211
00:56:05,373 --> 00:56:09,252
Speaker 24: to the market and whatever geography and held us back

1212
00:56:09,373 --> 00:56:12,093
Speaker 24: for a long, long long time year. There's so many

1213
00:56:12,173 --> 00:56:15,013
Speaker 24: things from the eighties, like b movies from the eighties,

1214
00:56:15,613 --> 00:56:19,252
Speaker 24: which where you biquitous in video stores. You cannot find

1215
00:56:19,253 --> 00:56:20,133
Speaker 24: them anywhere.

1216
00:56:19,853 --> 00:56:24,053
Speaker 13: Like Empire Vash one, two and three, and like the

1217
00:56:24,173 --> 00:56:29,573
Speaker 13: Bronx Zoo and Exterminator three thousand. You'd read those throw

1218
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:32,893
Speaker 13: them in a fodder. Yeah, it was at the two

1219
00:56:32,893 --> 00:56:36,692
Speaker 13: o'clock in the morning when everyone's it works for Chuck

1220
00:56:36,773 --> 00:56:40,573
Speaker 13: on the movie and those those days are gone.

1221
00:56:40,773 --> 00:56:44,653
Speaker 24: Look I'm I put my hand up and go. I

1222
00:56:45,133 --> 00:56:48,453
Speaker 24: sit there on Saturday afternoon before the Rugby starts, knowing

1223
00:56:48,533 --> 00:56:50,453
Speaker 24: full well that I'm going to be watching Bill Maher's

1224
00:56:50,613 --> 00:56:54,973
Speaker 24: Real Time about two minutes after it finishes on this

1225
00:56:55,213 --> 00:56:59,373
Speaker 24: TI guy who uploads it every weekend without fail, and

1226
00:56:59,493 --> 00:57:01,773
Speaker 24: it takes twenty four hours to get deleted off YouTube.

1227
00:57:01,813 --> 00:57:03,973
Speaker 24: It was like, how that's how I saw I was

1228
00:57:04,053 --> 00:57:06,693
Speaker 24: the Osborne's gig. I wasn't going to pay fifty bucks

1229
00:57:07,213 --> 00:57:09,853
Speaker 24: to sit there beteen hours, so I knew it had

1230
00:57:09,893 --> 00:57:13,133
Speaker 24: come up and sooner or later, UMG, you're going to

1231
00:57:13,173 --> 00:57:14,693
Speaker 24: take it down. And that's exactly what they did. But

1232
00:57:14,773 --> 00:57:16,733
Speaker 24: for twenty four hours you could watch it all and

1233
00:57:17,093 --> 00:57:21,373
Speaker 24: perfect quality. They need to get their heads around this because,

1234
00:57:21,613 --> 00:57:25,053
Speaker 24: for example, BBC, we can't see Glastonbury but it's all

1235
00:57:25,133 --> 00:57:28,453
Speaker 24: over the UK. It's amazing what they get to experience.

1236
00:57:29,053 --> 00:57:33,293
Speaker 24: I'd pay for that, but they can't even allow it

1237
00:57:33,413 --> 00:57:36,053
Speaker 24: up there because of the licensing deals and everything around there.

1238
00:57:36,373 --> 00:57:39,613
Speaker 24: It's actually silly they restrict their income level. I'll see

1239
00:57:39,653 --> 00:57:40,213
Speaker 24: this for years.

1240
00:57:40,733 --> 00:57:42,133
Speaker 25: You can watch in chargement.

1241
00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:45,693
Speaker 2: You can watch times Bill Mayer on Neon. That's up

1242
00:57:45,733 --> 00:57:48,933
Speaker 2: on Neon pretty quickly, up.

1243
00:57:48,933 --> 00:57:53,093
Speaker 24: On Sunday nights on Sky on HBO about ten o'clock,

1244
00:57:53,213 --> 00:57:55,573
Speaker 24: you know, but it's forty eight hours late, thirty six

1245
00:57:55,613 --> 00:57:56,053
Speaker 24: hours later.

1246
00:57:56,493 --> 00:57:58,373
Speaker 2: That's that's on me. It's too late for you. You

1247
00:57:58,493 --> 00:57:59,733
Speaker 2: need it, you need it immediately.

1248
00:58:00,253 --> 00:58:00,653
Speaker 7: I need it.

1249
00:58:01,933 --> 00:58:03,813
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, we lost them. He's been cut off.

1250
00:58:03,853 --> 00:58:07,853
Speaker 2: He's taking bard.

1251
00:58:08,973 --> 00:58:11,533
Speaker 24: No, it's it's great to get access to it when

1252
00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:14,373
Speaker 24: you want to get access to it, but I don't

1253
00:58:14,493 --> 00:58:15,373
Speaker 24: like being restricted.

1254
00:58:15,693 --> 00:58:17,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like that. It's I was just

1255
00:58:17,893 --> 00:58:18,253
Speaker 2: going to say.

1256
00:58:18,293 --> 00:58:20,013
Speaker 3: It was kind of like the Game Game of Throne

1257
00:58:20,093 --> 00:58:22,493
Speaker 3: situation where I think Sky got it because it was

1258
00:58:22,493 --> 00:58:25,613
Speaker 3: an HBO, but Sky were two days behind the US,

1259
00:58:25,773 --> 00:58:28,493
Speaker 3: so so big people were by the end.

1260
00:58:28,533 --> 00:58:30,173
Speaker 2: By the end of it though they were they were going.

1261
00:58:30,253 --> 00:58:32,373
Speaker 2: They realized that and it was and they were getting

1262
00:58:32,373 --> 00:58:33,693
Speaker 2: it out at the same time they did.

1263
00:58:33,733 --> 00:58:35,333
Speaker 3: It was a couple of hours time to see.

1264
00:58:35,493 --> 00:58:39,933
Speaker 24: Yeah, that was meeting the market and going how we're

1265
00:58:39,973 --> 00:58:44,053
Speaker 24: actually losing share, let's be less, be quick about it.

1266
00:58:44,133 --> 00:58:47,013
Speaker 24: And that same day screening, which is a great way

1267
00:58:47,013 --> 00:58:48,693
Speaker 24: to go about it. Go same day screening. It'll be

1268
00:58:48,773 --> 00:58:49,453
Speaker 24: on in your evening.

1269
00:58:49,693 --> 00:58:51,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, come home, put.

1270
00:58:51,093 --> 00:58:53,333
Speaker 24: Your feed up and watch Game of Thrones and everyone

1271
00:58:53,453 --> 00:58:54,413
Speaker 24: gets killed.

1272
00:58:54,173 --> 00:58:55,853
Speaker 13: And watch it.

1273
00:58:56,733 --> 00:58:59,373
Speaker 2: Hey, so Mark, you know you're talking about the VHS days.

1274
00:58:59,413 --> 00:59:01,053
Speaker 2: And one of the great things about that was recording

1275
00:59:01,093 --> 00:59:03,253
Speaker 2: a moving off movie off television that you would then

1276
00:59:03,413 --> 00:59:07,013
Speaker 2: watch four one hundred times. And one of the great

1277
00:59:07,053 --> 00:59:09,293
Speaker 2: things is I remember I recall to Repoman off the

1278
00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:13,693
Speaker 2: television and it was the censored version, so everyone was

1279
00:59:13,733 --> 00:59:17,973
Speaker 2: called a melon farmer and all these different ways of

1280
00:59:18,053 --> 00:59:20,053
Speaker 2: covering up the swearing. So I had no idea that

1281
00:59:20,173 --> 00:59:22,413
Speaker 2: that wasn't I watched that movie so many times and

1282
00:59:22,453 --> 00:59:25,093
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, they've got a really weird way

1283
00:59:25,133 --> 00:59:27,333
Speaker 2: of swearing. And then I actually saw the version. I

1284
00:59:27,413 --> 00:59:29,773
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I was watching the censored version of

1285
00:59:29,773 --> 00:59:30,333
Speaker 2: my whole life.

1286
00:59:32,213 --> 00:59:32,613
Speaker 9: So good.

1287
00:59:33,333 --> 00:59:36,613
Speaker 24: Some Steven Sigar movies that were ever and when you

1288
00:59:36,693 --> 00:59:38,893
Speaker 24: see that when you see the uncensored version, you're.

1289
00:59:38,813 --> 00:59:43,933
Speaker 22: Like, what they censor it for in the first place?

1290
00:59:44,733 --> 00:59:45,293
Speaker 7: I just did that.

1291
00:59:45,413 --> 00:59:45,573
Speaker 2: Good.

1292
00:59:45,813 --> 00:59:48,413
Speaker 24: Hey, guys, I've been really enjoying your show for six

1293
00:59:48,493 --> 00:59:50,293
Speaker 24: a month, however long you've been on since you came

1294
00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:51,293
Speaker 24: back from holding everything.

1295
00:59:51,653 --> 00:59:54,493
Speaker 9: I think you're both working your way into this really well.

1296
00:59:54,613 --> 00:59:55,653
Speaker 24: I enjoy your content.

1297
00:59:56,013 --> 00:59:58,693
Speaker 2: Oh bless you, Mark, Thanks for saying that. I appreciate that.

1298
00:59:58,853 --> 00:59:59,413
Speaker 2: What a good man.

1299
00:59:59,493 --> 01:00:01,853
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1300
01:00:01,893 --> 01:00:04,053
Speaker 3: to call if you're pirate on a regular basis, Why

1301
01:00:04,133 --> 01:00:05,693
Speaker 3: we'd love to hear from you. A lot of people

1302
01:00:06,213 --> 01:00:08,893
Speaker 3: do it. How easy is it? Really? Never check with

1303
01:00:08,893 --> 01:00:10,733
Speaker 3: your nine two nine Two's the text number as well.

1304
01:00:10,933 --> 01:00:16,333
Speaker 2: You disgusting idiots for letting people know how to pirate. Yeah,

1305
01:00:16,453 --> 01:00:18,653
Speaker 2: there we go, There you go. That's Tyler that's been doing. Man,

1306
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Speaker 2: if you're a police officer, that's texting.

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Speaker 3: Headline's coming up.

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Speaker 17: News Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

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Speaker 17: no trouble with a blue bubble infrastructure. New Zealand suggested

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Speaker 17: more planning could have reduced the costs of canceling our

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Speaker 17: cook straight Fairy deal with a Hyundai dockyard. The project

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Speaker 17: has cost six hundred and seventy one million dollars, made

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Speaker 17: up of two hundred and twenty two million going to

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Speaker 17: the shipyard and four hundred and forty nine million on

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Speaker 17: landside infrastructure, project management and wind down costs. Green's co

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Speaker 17: leader Chloe Swarbrick says she'll be back in Parliament next week.

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Speaker 17: She says there are issues with the Speaker twice punishing

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Speaker 17: her for the same offense, which is double jeopardy. The

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Speaker 17: number of kiwis moving offshore is almost at a record high,

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Speaker 17: with almost seventy two thousand leaving in the past year.

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Speaker 17: Confirmation cabinets discussing its policy on letting a golden visa

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Speaker 17: holders buy a home and possibly loosening the regulations. Two

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Speaker 17: people have escaped uninjured after their light aircraft was forced

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Speaker 17: to land in a paddock near christ Church Airport just

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Speaker 17: before two plus. Aucklander state agent gets into nearly one

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Speaker 17: million dollar of tax debt while still bankrupt. Find out

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Speaker 17: more at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to Matt

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Speaker 17: and Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. We're talking about piracy, stealing

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Speaker 3: content off the internet. If that you loved to hear

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Speaker 3: from you O. E. One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand, the penalties for online piracy can range

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01:01:46,133 --> 01:01:49,693
Speaker 2: from fines to imprisonment tyler depending on the nature of

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01:01:49,773 --> 01:01:52,453
Speaker 2: the scale of the infringement. Copyright owners can issue three

1335
01:01:52,493 --> 01:01:55,973
Speaker 2: strikes to those infringing copyright, with the potential for a

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Speaker 2: fine of up to fifteen thousand dollars if the issue

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Speaker 2: is brought before the Copyright Tribunal. For criminal offenses related

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Speaker 2: to copyright infringement for commercial gain, penalties can include imprisonment

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01:02:06,253 --> 01:02:09,493
Speaker 2: tyler cheap for up to five years, or fines of

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Speaker 2: up to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And we've

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Speaker 2: got Chris on the line, who used to investigate piracy

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Speaker 2: for the Motion Picture Association. Welcome to the show, Chris, Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So I'm a forensic computing expert and I have

1344
01:02:23,813 --> 01:02:27,493
Speaker 9: a Paris license by the way, going back about ten years.

1345
01:02:27,933 --> 01:02:31,213
Speaker 9: Most Picture Association of America. So that's the big copyright

1346
01:02:31,333 --> 01:02:33,373
Speaker 9: thing you send that you usually see at the end

1347
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Speaker 9: of any movies. And they had an office in New Zealand,

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Speaker 9: and they would go out and they would investigate and

1349
01:02:40,813 --> 01:02:44,613
Speaker 9: then prosecute or search rights or whatever the challenge is

1350
01:02:44,973 --> 01:02:46,973
Speaker 9: is that back in those days, be full of the

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01:02:47,053 --> 01:02:49,293
Speaker 9: app that you just read out was put into law.

1352
01:02:49,733 --> 01:02:53,453
Speaker 9: They were really only interested in distributors. So it's those

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01:02:53,613 --> 01:02:56,533
Speaker 9: that had thousands and thousands of movies that you and

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01:02:56,613 --> 01:03:00,173
Speaker 9: I would log on to do downloads. We're not committing

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Speaker 9: the offense. The person who has made it available to

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01:03:04,693 --> 01:03:09,413
Speaker 9: others is the pirator, okay, right, yeah, And another way

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01:03:09,413 --> 01:03:10,733
Speaker 9: to equate that is, you know, when you just got

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01:03:10,773 --> 01:03:12,533
Speaker 9: to tie end, like that guy spoke about Moscow and

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01:03:12,573 --> 01:03:14,293
Speaker 9: you go and pick up and you might pick up

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Speaker 9: twenty individual movies, Customs was not interested in you because

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Speaker 9: that's for personal use. But if you bought five Superman

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01:03:23,093 --> 01:03:28,893
Speaker 9: movies and five terminated movies, that's vying with the purpose

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Speaker 9: for distribution, and that's the offense. And that's that last

1364
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Speaker 9: sentence you just read out around the all around the

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01:03:34,893 --> 01:03:39,973
Speaker 9: law for financial game. So the big copyright holders were

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Speaker 9: only really interested in those who were distributing the material,

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Speaker 9: i e. Those that hold it online for you and I,

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01:03:48,013 --> 01:03:50,613
Speaker 9: not me, not you, but who would then download it

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01:03:50,693 --> 01:03:53,253
Speaker 9: and then use it for their personal use. If I

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Speaker 9: then onsold that, they would be.

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Speaker 1: Interested in me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And that's exactly the same with.

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01:04:00,333 --> 01:04:03,573
Speaker 9: Sony Games playing around with their code, etc. Is that

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01:04:03,773 --> 01:04:07,413
Speaker 9: much going around the world but chasing the distributors apart

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01:04:08,373 --> 01:04:11,973
Speaker 9: from businesses in New Zealand. So I have been engaged

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Speaker 9: to go into a business where they found movies online

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01:04:14,893 --> 01:04:17,693
Speaker 9: and they're trying to get rid of somebody. I'll look

1378
01:04:17,693 --> 01:04:19,973
Speaker 9: at their computer and I might say, hey, there's twenty

1379
01:04:20,373 --> 01:04:23,013
Speaker 9: downloaded movies on here, right, We've got them for piracy.

1380
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Speaker 9: We're going to use that to get rid of them.

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Speaker 9: Do you know who some of the worst hoarders of

1382
01:04:28,573 --> 01:04:31,053
Speaker 9: Pirate of the Movies are in the New Zealand business community.

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Speaker 7: No, the it guyst Besk.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course.

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Speaker 9: I've done a couple where they've actually had a servered

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Speaker 9: drive and that's where they park all the movies that

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01:04:41,573 --> 01:04:43,213
Speaker 9: they find other people downloading.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Classic. So when your Times is investigating this sort of piracy,

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Speaker 2: did you were you involved in anything that ended up

1391
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Speaker 2: in these major prosecutions.

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.

1394
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Speaker 9: We would probably do one every four months, and I'm

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Speaker 9: talking thousands, and without being racist or picking out a gender,

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Speaker 9: it usually was male Asians who were controlling the location

1397
01:05:08,413 --> 01:05:10,733
Speaker 9: that we went to, and they would have five or

1398
01:05:10,813 --> 01:05:13,973
Speaker 9: six computers with a couple of storage devices, and there

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Speaker 9: would be thousands of movies and they would be online,

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Speaker 9: not really in a dark web. They would just have

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01:05:19,133 --> 01:05:22,373
Speaker 9: a web address like some have spoken about today where

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01:05:22,373 --> 01:05:25,013
Speaker 9: people would log on, pay a fee and then download

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Speaker 9: whatever they like.

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Speaker 2: Was the war lost thousands of them? Was the war

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01:05:28,853 --> 01:05:32,973
Speaker 2: lost Chris when tarantine came in because correct, people can

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Speaker 2: just get a VPN and download it from some site

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Speaker 2: in Switzerland or whatever.

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Speaker 9: So that's when, for example, Motion Picture Association in New Zealand,

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01:05:42,093 --> 01:05:44,853
Speaker 9: they'd closed their office and they went up to Singapore,

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01:05:44,933 --> 01:05:47,013
Speaker 9: so their office was in Singapore to cover our whole

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01:05:47,053 --> 01:05:50,493
Speaker 9: region because it was a more online fight rather than

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Speaker 9: going to a location.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah and interesting, and they didn't know.

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01:05:54,573 --> 01:05:57,333
Speaker 9: Where those locations were, so they would deploy teams around

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01:05:57,373 --> 01:06:01,973
Speaker 9: the world where they found a physical location so they

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01:06:02,013 --> 01:06:04,053
Speaker 9: could a shut it down and be do a prosecution.

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01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:05,733
Speaker 9: Because it was just online. You don't know who owns it,

1418
01:06:06,093 --> 01:06:08,133
Speaker 9: just like today you know, people swapping porn all that

1419
01:06:08,373 --> 01:06:10,773
Speaker 9: sort of stuff. You have no idea where they are.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, we know.

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01:06:13,213 --> 01:06:15,053
Speaker 9: You two have got a server out the back that

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01:06:15,093 --> 01:06:16,773
Speaker 9: you put a web address on the dark web and

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Speaker 9: somebody's just jumping in and downloading stuff and get let's

1424
01:06:20,733 --> 01:06:21,613
Speaker 9: take it on the way through.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Matt, not me, not me, maybe Tyler.

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Speaker 23: Chris So.

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Speaker 2: And then I understand because this thing was moving. I

1428
01:06:29,773 --> 01:06:33,413
Speaker 2: mean remember Metallica coming out against Napster. I believe it was.

1429
01:06:33,493 --> 01:06:36,133
Speaker 2: And then that seems so ridiculous. Now we had the

1430
01:06:36,173 --> 01:06:38,253
Speaker 2: burn and Get Burned. It seemed like they didn't know

1431
01:06:38,293 --> 01:06:39,813
Speaker 2: how bad it was going to get, how much it

1432
01:06:39,893 --> 01:06:41,973
Speaker 2: was going to go with the burn and Get Burned campaign,

1433
01:06:42,013 --> 01:06:43,893
Speaker 2: and then you wouldn't steal a you wouldn't steal a

1434
01:06:43,933 --> 01:06:47,013
Speaker 2: handbag campaign, et cetera. But then it seemed like the

1435
01:06:47,093 --> 01:06:49,493
Speaker 2: tarrantine came in and it was just all on. But

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01:06:49,613 --> 01:06:53,373
Speaker 2: then the Netflix came along with the subscription model, and

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01:06:53,493 --> 01:06:56,013
Speaker 2: now we've got Disney and The New Zealand, We've got

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01:06:56,133 --> 01:06:59,053
Speaker 2: Neon and we've got Amazon. It felt like at that

1439
01:06:59,293 --> 01:07:01,333
Speaker 2: point people just thought, well, I don't want to be

1440
01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:05,773
Speaker 2: involved in this dirty world of you know, piracy. If

1441
01:07:05,853 --> 01:07:07,773
Speaker 2: these enough movie is going to be available in the

1442
01:07:07,853 --> 01:07:10,373
Speaker 2: script is enough, then I'm just going to do that.

1443
01:07:11,053 --> 01:07:14,173
Speaker 2: Did that happen? Did people? Did that piracy drop off?

1444
01:07:14,213 --> 01:07:16,373
Speaker 2: At that point? When the when the streamers became bigger.

1445
01:07:17,853 --> 01:07:21,013
Speaker 9: It's all about supply and demand. So you're absolutely correct.

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01:07:21,053 --> 01:07:23,653
Speaker 20: The supply was over for a very small.

1447
01:07:23,413 --> 01:07:25,293
Speaker 9: Fee, and I didn't have to spend an hour and

1448
01:07:25,333 --> 01:07:27,773
Speaker 9: a half trying to work out where it was. I

1449
01:07:27,853 --> 01:07:30,773
Speaker 9: could just go online. But don't get me wrong. There

1450
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:34,453
Speaker 9: are people regularly today who go on site. And I

1451
01:07:34,573 --> 01:07:36,973
Speaker 9: know my children aren't listening, but I know two of them.

1452
01:07:37,653 --> 01:07:39,373
Speaker 20: They are regular users.

1453
01:07:39,573 --> 01:07:41,733
Speaker 9: But don't ask them. We are don't know, but I

1454
01:07:41,893 --> 01:07:44,693
Speaker 9: know they a movie comes out in the States within two.

1455
01:07:44,653 --> 01:07:45,293
Speaker 20: Days, I've got it.

1456
01:07:45,653 --> 01:07:49,253
Speaker 2: Do they not know who their father is? I know

1457
01:07:49,373 --> 01:07:49,573
Speaker 2: they do.

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01:07:49,693 --> 01:07:50,653
Speaker 9: They just think I don't know.

1459
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Speaker 3: You're out of the game now, Chris.

1460
01:07:53,813 --> 01:07:56,773
Speaker 2: Suddenly Dad's has knocked them out. They're getting one hundred

1461
01:07:56,773 --> 01:07:59,133
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollar fine and they're going to Brison.

1462
01:07:59,253 --> 01:07:59,853
Speaker 15: You're looking.

1463
01:07:59,973 --> 01:08:02,973
Speaker 9: You're never look at your kids' computers or your wife's phone.

1464
01:08:02,973 --> 01:08:05,893
Speaker 9: All right, don't do it, but it might worth it good.

1465
01:08:06,613 --> 01:08:10,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, just roying back about ten years ago or so, Chris.

1466
01:08:10,733 --> 01:08:13,213
Speaker 3: I remember, and this was I think that the music

1467
01:08:13,413 --> 01:08:16,053
Speaker 3: industry rather than the movie industry. But you'd remember that

1468
01:08:16,173 --> 01:08:18,652
Speaker 3: there was the three strike situation and they'd send out

1469
01:08:18,773 --> 01:08:20,853
Speaker 3: letters and I remember because I was living with an

1470
01:08:20,853 --> 01:08:23,492
Speaker 3: Irish guy was a flatmate, and we got a letter

1471
01:08:23,572 --> 01:08:27,172
Speaker 3: because he had been downloading Katy Perry songs of all songs.

1472
01:08:27,612 --> 01:08:30,253
Speaker 3: But after that letter and he got really worried, but

1473
01:08:30,333 --> 01:08:32,612
Speaker 3: he kept torranting Katy Perry because he was a weirder.

1474
01:08:32,652 --> 01:08:35,052
Speaker 2: I'll be embarrassed about that going public.

1475
01:08:35,173 --> 01:08:36,812
Speaker 3: We almost kicked him out of the flat just for

1476
01:08:36,853 --> 01:08:38,173
Speaker 3: the Katy Perry thing, not for the.

1477
01:08:38,213 --> 01:08:41,372
Speaker 2: Finds, but being in the newspapers about downloading Katy Perry.

1478
01:08:41,692 --> 01:08:43,532
Speaker 3: But then he never got a letter again, so that

1479
01:08:43,692 --> 01:08:45,532
Speaker 3: kind of dropped off, didn't It was that almost just

1480
01:08:45,692 --> 01:08:47,852
Speaker 3: like a bit of a scare tactic that didn't quite work,

1481
01:08:49,452 --> 01:08:49,852
Speaker 3: you creep.

1482
01:08:49,893 --> 01:08:54,932
Speaker 9: They just had people doing electronic searches across the download sites,

1483
01:08:55,572 --> 01:08:57,692
Speaker 9: find an IP address, see if they can work out

1484
01:08:57,692 --> 01:09:00,452
Speaker 9: of that person with a physical address, and then slip

1485
01:09:00,532 --> 01:09:03,772
Speaker 9: them and then let's just see what happens. The challenge

1486
01:09:03,812 --> 01:09:05,612
Speaker 9: there is that, of course, for them to do that,

1487
01:09:06,093 --> 01:09:09,012
Speaker 9: you're probably in New Zealand courts particularly, you're probably talking

1488
01:09:09,053 --> 01:09:11,133
Speaker 9: about twenty to thirty grand to be able to take

1489
01:09:11,173 --> 01:09:13,412
Speaker 9: it through a process. Nobody's going to spend on that

1490
01:09:13,532 --> 01:09:16,412
Speaker 9: for somebody's just downloading stuff and the other side of it.

1491
01:09:16,612 --> 01:09:18,572
Speaker 2: It was so easy. You could just put in.

1492
01:09:18,933 --> 01:09:22,293
Speaker 9: How do I download a song of Katy Perry that's

1493
01:09:22,372 --> 01:09:24,852
Speaker 9: not licensed and you would get an answer. That's the

1494
01:09:24,973 --> 01:09:28,692
Speaker 9: stupidity of it. And listen, I've done cases where somebody's

1495
01:09:28,692 --> 01:09:32,012
Speaker 9: put into their search history how do I steal money

1496
01:09:32,053 --> 01:09:34,973
Speaker 9: from my employer? And then they were caught stealing and

1497
01:09:35,053 --> 01:09:36,772
Speaker 9: we look at their Google history and that's what they

1498
01:09:36,853 --> 01:09:37,412
Speaker 9: bloody put in.

1499
01:09:37,973 --> 01:09:38,932
Speaker 7: Some people were just mugged.

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01:09:40,253 --> 01:09:43,532
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Chris, I accidentally clicked the phone there. What

1501
01:09:43,732 --> 01:09:44,293
Speaker 2: you say, you go on?

1502
01:09:45,333 --> 01:09:49,452
Speaker 9: Oh, I'd say that I've done jobs where somebody might

1503
01:09:49,532 --> 01:09:52,412
Speaker 9: want to they think they've been stealing stuff from the workplace,

1504
01:09:52,772 --> 01:09:54,173
Speaker 9: So we would jump in and make a friends a

1505
01:09:54,213 --> 01:09:56,093
Speaker 9: copy of their laptop, and then we'd look at their history,

1506
01:09:56,093 --> 01:09:58,053
Speaker 9: and then we'd look at their Google history, and they

1507
01:09:58,093 --> 01:10:01,092
Speaker 9: are searching for how do I steal from my employer

1508
01:10:01,173 --> 01:10:05,532
Speaker 9: without getting caught. Some people even said, you know, how

1509
01:10:05,572 --> 01:10:07,892
Speaker 9: do I do harm to somebody without getting arrested? People

1510
01:10:08,013 --> 01:10:10,932
Speaker 9: just put ed into Google and think it disappears because

1511
01:10:10,973 --> 01:10:13,412
Speaker 9: they clear their case on their computer. Guys, for all

1512
01:10:13,492 --> 01:10:17,972
Speaker 9: those listening, it's there forever you will get caught very true.

1513
01:10:18,093 --> 01:10:20,293
Speaker 3: I think the old mushroom clock could have used that

1514
01:10:20,372 --> 01:10:25,212
Speaker 3: advice as well. Actually just googling death cat mushrooms idiot.

1515
01:10:26,532 --> 01:10:29,492
Speaker 2: There a few people out there, though, you know, with

1516
01:10:29,652 --> 01:10:32,213
Speaker 2: all this forends that can you know, friends that could

1517
01:10:32,253 --> 01:10:37,973
Speaker 2: digital friend forensics. You know, anyone that was ended up

1518
01:10:38,013 --> 01:10:42,012
Speaker 2: being called into court and maybe they're innocent and then

1519
01:10:42,213 --> 01:10:45,892
Speaker 2: their their history and their text message streads and came out,

1520
01:10:45,893 --> 01:10:48,052
Speaker 2: There'd be very few people out there that could survive

1521
01:10:48,133 --> 01:10:50,852
Speaker 2: that kind of scrutiny. You know, imagine what about Johnny

1522
01:10:50,853 --> 01:10:53,692
Speaker 2: Depp and Amber heard Control reading it those text messages.

1523
01:10:53,692 --> 01:10:55,053
Speaker 2: I watched some of that live. It was some of

1524
01:10:55,093 --> 01:10:59,133
Speaker 2: the most horrifically embarrassing stuff just read out. So you

1525
01:10:59,293 --> 01:11:01,452
Speaker 2: just don't even want to be near a murder or

1526
01:11:01,532 --> 01:11:04,452
Speaker 2: a serious clay just in case your computer ends up

1527
01:11:04,492 --> 01:11:04,772
Speaker 2: in court.

1528
01:11:04,812 --> 01:11:06,652
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of digital skeletons all of us.

1529
01:11:06,933 --> 01:11:08,732
Speaker 3: Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. The number

1530
01:11:08,732 --> 01:11:10,293
Speaker 3: to call it is a quarter to three.

1531
01:11:11,293 --> 01:11:14,452
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

1532
01:11:14,612 --> 01:11:19,133
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

1533
01:11:19,133 --> 01:11:20,293
Speaker 2: They'd be afternoon.

1534
01:11:20,333 --> 01:11:23,932
Speaker 3: We are talking about piracy stealing content online? Anything wrong

1535
01:11:23,973 --> 01:11:25,492
Speaker 3: with it? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1536
01:11:25,853 --> 01:11:27,973
Speaker 2: Says what's wrong with looking on your wife's phone and

1537
01:11:28,053 --> 01:11:32,492
Speaker 2: kids computer? Well? I think the joke there was that

1538
01:11:33,372 --> 01:11:36,213
Speaker 2: you might not like what you see. You know, you

1539
01:11:36,333 --> 01:11:38,213
Speaker 2: might you might not like what you see. You might

1540
01:11:38,253 --> 01:11:40,892
Speaker 2: get confused by what you see on your wife's phone

1541
01:11:40,933 --> 01:11:43,293
Speaker 2: and think there's problems. And you know, privacy and relationships

1542
01:11:43,372 --> 01:11:44,013
Speaker 2: is an important thing.

1543
01:11:44,253 --> 01:11:45,293
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you should.

1544
01:11:45,452 --> 01:11:48,812
Speaker 2: You should let your wife just trust her, trust her,

1545
01:11:48,893 --> 01:11:51,253
Speaker 2: and hope that she trusts you. You can't be snooping

1546
01:11:51,293 --> 01:11:54,372
Speaker 2: around but your kid's computer. It's probably a good idea

1547
01:11:54,452 --> 01:11:56,812
Speaker 2: to know what's on your kids computer up to probably

1548
01:11:56,853 --> 01:11:58,013
Speaker 2: the age sixteen, right.

1549
01:11:58,013 --> 01:12:00,252
Speaker 3: Yeah, get in there and steer them, right. But anyone's

1550
01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:04,053
Speaker 3: Google search without context would look absolutely disgusting, right about it?

1551
01:12:04,213 --> 01:12:06,173
Speaker 2: This text asks I won't say his name because it

1552
01:12:06,213 --> 01:12:09,692
Speaker 2: seems to be a question that's of urgency, and a

1553
01:12:09,692 --> 01:12:12,012
Speaker 2: lot of people are texting in what about incognito searcher?

1554
01:12:12,013 --> 01:12:15,253
Speaker 2: So the thing is with an incognito search, your internet

1555
01:12:15,333 --> 01:12:18,972
Speaker 2: service provider knows exactly what's coming into your computer. Yeah,

1556
01:12:19,133 --> 01:12:22,452
Speaker 2: and whilst the browser doesn't remember the history and a

1557
01:12:22,532 --> 01:12:25,173
Speaker 2: bunch of other details. There are traces that will be

1558
01:12:25,253 --> 01:12:28,972
Speaker 2: left on your computer. Yeah, I mean a VPN. VPN

1559
01:12:29,213 --> 01:12:34,093
Speaker 2: will stop your Internet service provider from unseeing exactly what

1560
01:12:34,133 --> 01:12:34,612
Speaker 2: you're looking at.

1561
01:12:34,812 --> 01:12:37,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of hides your IP address so they

1562
01:12:37,572 --> 01:12:39,692
Speaker 3: don't actually know which computer you're using. But yeah, the

1563
01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:42,213
Speaker 3: old incognito doesn't hide anything.

1564
01:12:44,133 --> 01:12:46,333
Speaker 2: I love my VPN runs nearly twenty four to seven.

1565
01:12:46,412 --> 01:12:48,572
Speaker 2: My old boss managed a computer repair shot before he

1566
01:12:48,732 --> 01:12:51,532
Speaker 2: changed careers. Every time a PC came in, even though

1567
01:12:51,652 --> 01:12:54,253
Speaker 2: not allowed, they copy all their movies and music can

1568
01:12:54,293 --> 01:12:57,333
Speaker 2: stick it on a store server so staff could copy it.

1569
01:12:57,692 --> 01:13:00,972
Speaker 2: He also caught a few pedos and would have formed

1570
01:13:01,013 --> 01:13:03,173
Speaker 2: the police that kicked down the doors a week or

1571
01:13:03,173 --> 01:13:06,932
Speaker 2: two after the PC was returned to the customers far rout. Well,

1572
01:13:06,973 --> 01:13:09,053
Speaker 2: that's positive if you found a few of.

1573
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:11,452
Speaker 3: Those, Absolutely, you're doing the God's work there.

1574
01:13:11,492 --> 01:13:15,972
Speaker 2: Those horrible scumbags. Hey boys, Netflix isn't expensive. I think

1575
01:13:16,053 --> 01:13:18,812
Speaker 2: how many things you've watched on there. You used to

1576
01:13:18,933 --> 01:13:21,812
Speaker 2: have to rent movies individually, it would work out more expensive.

1577
01:13:21,812 --> 01:13:24,253
Speaker 2: I wouldn't personally pirate any movies. I like going to

1578
01:13:24,293 --> 01:13:26,293
Speaker 2: see movies, just my thoughts. I love going to see

1579
01:13:26,372 --> 01:13:30,492
Speaker 2: movies in the theater. Absolutely love it. Went to Weapons

1580
01:13:31,333 --> 01:13:36,492
Speaker 2: at the Silky Otter in Ponsonby in the weekend. Such

1581
01:13:36,532 --> 01:13:38,293
Speaker 2: a good movie. Oh my god. If you get a

1582
01:13:38,333 --> 01:13:40,213
Speaker 2: chance to go to Weapons, great movie.

1583
01:13:40,333 --> 01:13:40,572
Speaker 14: Love it.

1584
01:13:40,772 --> 01:13:41,772
Speaker 2: Paul, Welcome to the show.

1585
01:13:44,933 --> 01:13:47,452
Speaker 7: Just a surprising thing. I was a couple of years

1586
01:13:47,492 --> 01:13:49,053
Speaker 7: ago as a line and big a phone call for

1587
01:13:49,173 --> 01:13:52,772
Speaker 7: my a Dinet provider. It was a little I'm out

1588
01:13:52,812 --> 01:13:56,053
Speaker 7: in the country, so there's a rural vide that was

1589
01:13:56,133 --> 01:13:58,933
Speaker 7: quite personalized service. And he just mentioned that had a

1590
01:13:59,452 --> 01:14:03,973
Speaker 7: contact from come in the which movie house, Disney or

1591
01:14:04,173 --> 01:14:07,532
Speaker 7: MGM or one of those big boys one in my

1592
01:14:07,772 --> 01:14:10,972
Speaker 7: arm and Druce because I downloaded a particular film off

1593
01:14:12,213 --> 01:14:19,212
Speaker 7: pirate Bay and what apparently couldn't to my nice internet provider.

1594
01:14:19,412 --> 01:14:24,932
Speaker 7: They told me I was hit a bock and download

1595
01:14:25,933 --> 01:14:30,092
Speaker 7: that searched out my IPS and reported back to America

1596
01:14:30,372 --> 01:14:33,372
Speaker 7: and my I p S. I said he wasn't going

1597
01:14:33,452 --> 01:14:36,293
Speaker 7: to give my details because the policy was I can't

1598
01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:38,772
Speaker 7: I want to call it open Internet, that I wanted

1599
01:14:38,772 --> 01:14:43,652
Speaker 7: to divulge people's addresses, et cetera. And then he suggested

1600
01:14:43,933 --> 01:14:45,812
Speaker 7: a VPM et cetera. Because I didn't want to hit

1601
01:14:45,893 --> 01:14:51,133
Speaker 7: the need one of those so nothing came of it,

1602
01:14:51,532 --> 01:14:52,173
Speaker 7: but sort of.

1603
01:14:54,532 --> 01:14:57,012
Speaker 3: So the o SP guy was was he was enabling,

1604
01:14:57,093 --> 01:14:58,532
Speaker 3: He was telling you how to do it properly.

1605
01:14:59,853 --> 01:15:02,452
Speaker 7: Yeah he yeah, I mean he said, if you want

1606
01:15:02,492 --> 01:15:05,053
Speaker 7: to do it, I can't stop you. It's illegal, but

1607
01:15:06,293 --> 01:15:07,812
Speaker 7: it's the programs you can hid hide.

1608
01:15:08,612 --> 01:15:13,412
Speaker 2: Oh just slightly concerning that your Internet service provider is

1609
01:15:14,093 --> 01:15:15,213
Speaker 2: tracking what you're doing.

1610
01:15:16,893 --> 01:15:24,892
Speaker 7: No, No, the provider wasn't video production company in America.

1611
01:15:25,093 --> 01:15:25,532
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

1612
01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:28,733
Speaker 7: It picked me up and they contacted my IPS.

1613
01:15:28,372 --> 01:15:31,612
Speaker 2: Provider and they contacted one of.

1614
01:15:31,652 --> 01:15:37,612
Speaker 7: My details they could proceedings, and my IP IPS provided

1615
01:15:37,652 --> 01:15:39,492
Speaker 7: told them no that they weren't going to release it.

1616
01:15:40,612 --> 01:15:42,933
Speaker 7: It's privacy and all that kind of stuff, and then

1617
01:15:42,973 --> 01:15:45,053
Speaker 7: they advised to do it. If I do it, be

1618
01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:49,213
Speaker 7: a bit more intelligent about it. And it's just on

1619
01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:53,013
Speaker 7: the cusp of before need Flips and all that was

1620
01:15:54,732 --> 01:15:56,772
Speaker 7: available and it could basically find any movie you want

1621
01:15:56,853 --> 01:16:01,333
Speaker 7: nowadays one of those streaming services, and plus it has

1622
01:16:01,452 --> 01:16:03,093
Speaker 7: of going to pilot By and all that kind of

1623
01:16:03,133 --> 01:16:05,573
Speaker 7: stuff and trying to find the tyrant and the attack.

1624
01:16:06,133 --> 01:16:09,173
Speaker 2: Download dirty and it's all.

1625
01:16:10,893 --> 01:16:13,852
Speaker 7: Corrupt and five bucks a month.

1626
01:16:14,333 --> 01:16:17,213
Speaker 3: Paul, I mean, you've got a good ISP to give

1627
01:16:17,253 --> 01:16:19,293
Speaker 3: you the heads up and say download a VPN and

1628
01:16:19,333 --> 01:16:21,412
Speaker 3: you won't get caught. We're going to play some messages,

1629
01:16:21,452 --> 01:16:23,372
Speaker 3: but when we come back a few more texts, it

1630
01:16:23,652 --> 01:16:25,212
Speaker 3: is seven to three.

1631
01:16:26,213 --> 01:16:28,612
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1632
01:16:28,692 --> 01:16:32,853
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

1633
01:16:33,572 --> 01:16:36,812
Speaker 3: News Talks B. It is four to two three, couple

1634
01:16:36,853 --> 01:16:39,253
Speaker 3: of texts. I get a guys. I use two sites,

1635
01:16:39,293 --> 01:16:43,253
Speaker 3: one for sports, other TVs and movies. Can get anything

1636
01:16:43,293 --> 01:16:45,612
Speaker 3: you'll ever need from day one home and away to

1637
01:16:45,732 --> 01:16:49,293
Speaker 3: this week's and anything old or new that's ever aired.

1638
01:16:49,333 --> 01:16:52,972
Speaker 2: It's so good, it's bad. It's naughty.

1639
01:16:53,213 --> 01:16:54,692
Speaker 3: Don't pyrioracy bad.

1640
01:16:54,973 --> 01:16:57,372
Speaker 2: All your people have been texting in saying that you're

1641
01:16:57,492 --> 01:17:01,972
Speaker 2: pirating things. Bad people, bad people. Don't do it, unless,

1642
01:17:02,013 --> 01:17:04,732
Speaker 2: of course, the movie isn't available here. Then what choice

1643
01:17:04,772 --> 01:17:07,772
Speaker 2: do you have? Actually, just watch dot com. I keep

1644
01:17:07,893 --> 01:17:09,732
Speaker 2: reminding you with us. It's a great sight to see

1645
01:17:09,732 --> 01:17:12,973
Speaker 2: which streamers have which movies. But just a heads up,

1646
01:17:13,133 --> 01:17:15,293
Speaker 2: don't watch The Wolfman. I watched it last night.

1647
01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:16,972
Speaker 3: No good The wolf Man.

1648
01:17:17,893 --> 01:17:20,293
Speaker 2: What stream was that on? I believe it's on Netflix? Yes,

1649
01:17:20,372 --> 01:17:24,452
Speaker 2: starring the wonderful. Julia Garner who's incredible and weapons. Yeah,

1650
01:17:25,053 --> 01:17:27,972
Speaker 2: and Christopher Abbott but just the most boring weir wolf

1651
01:17:28,053 --> 01:17:28,452
Speaker 2: movie ever.

1652
01:17:28,652 --> 01:17:30,132
Speaker 3: Okay, stay away from the Wolfman.

1653
01:17:30,133 --> 01:17:32,013
Speaker 2: Watch your guy turning into a wolf for over an hour.

1654
01:17:32,213 --> 01:17:34,732
Speaker 3: Yeap, love it. Hey, lots of other good stuff on

1655
01:17:34,772 --> 01:17:37,892
Speaker 3: the streamers fantastic. And to my Irish flatmate Brendan if

1656
01:17:37,893 --> 01:17:40,013
Speaker 3: you're listening, mate, he's a bit of Katie Heary for you.

1657
01:17:40,853 --> 01:17:42,293
Speaker 3: We'll see you after the news.

1658
01:17:42,572 --> 01:17:44,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to steal it. Just listen to matt

1659
01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:47,133
Speaker 2: and Tyler afternoons on ZB mate.

1660
01:17:52,213 --> 01:17:56,532
Speaker 1: Your new homes are instateful and entertaining talk It's Mattie

1661
01:17:56,772 --> 01:18:00,293
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sevvy.

1662
01:18:03,452 --> 01:18:06,532
Speaker 3: Very very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show

1663
01:18:06,652 --> 01:18:10,692
Speaker 3: at seven pass three. Now, we alluded to this and

1664
01:18:10,732 --> 01:18:12,772
Speaker 3: we're going to get to it very shortly in a

1665
01:18:12,812 --> 01:18:15,333
Speaker 3: couple of minutes because we've got something very important coming up.

1666
01:18:15,333 --> 01:18:17,452
Speaker 3: New Zealander of the Week, of course, But there was

1667
01:18:17,492 --> 01:18:20,572
Speaker 3: some accusations made by Mike Hosking against the body part

1668
01:18:20,612 --> 01:18:21,372
Speaker 3: of yours, Matt Heath.

1669
01:18:21,572 --> 01:18:24,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Well, there was a few accusations that

1670
01:18:24,492 --> 01:18:27,972
Speaker 2: were made towards us by Ryan Bridge and Mike Cosking

1671
01:18:28,013 --> 01:18:30,532
Speaker 2: and the crossover between the two fantastic shows that they

1672
01:18:30,612 --> 01:18:33,532
Speaker 2: do in the morning YEP and false accusations. I'm going

1673
01:18:33,612 --> 01:18:36,012
Speaker 2: to say, so, we want to listen to that audio

1674
01:18:36,253 --> 01:18:40,093
Speaker 2: YEP with open minds, and then I'll address the accusations

1675
01:18:40,133 --> 01:18:42,933
Speaker 2: and I'll provide the evidence that exonerates me.

1676
01:18:43,013 --> 01:18:44,532
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, this is going to be good. That is

1677
01:18:44,612 --> 01:18:48,052
Speaker 3: coming up very soon, but right now, it is seven

1678
01:18:48,133 --> 01:18:48,732
Speaker 3: past three.

1679
01:18:50,732 --> 01:18:53,173
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on z B,

1680
01:18:53,333 --> 01:18:55,372
Speaker 2: we name the New Zealander of the Week and honor

1681
01:18:55,412 --> 01:18:57,612
Speaker 2: that we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker who's

1682
01:18:57,612 --> 01:19:00,532
Speaker 2: had an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation

1683
01:19:00,973 --> 01:19:03,973
Speaker 2: over the previous seven days. So, without further ado, the

1684
01:19:04,053 --> 01:19:07,013
Speaker 2: nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of the

1685
01:19:07,053 --> 01:19:11,452
Speaker 2: Week are. He generally disagrees with everything she has to say.

1686
01:19:11,612 --> 01:19:15,253
Speaker 2: He's called her Chloe Marx. He's laughed till asides at

1687
01:19:15,293 --> 01:19:18,412
Speaker 2: her policies. But he also has the courage of his convictions,

1688
01:19:18,732 --> 01:19:21,093
Speaker 2: and if he thinks something's wrong, he will say so.

1689
01:19:21,652 --> 01:19:23,812
Speaker 2: For sticking up for Chloe after she got.

1690
01:19:23,772 --> 01:19:26,812
Speaker 26: Kicked out of parliament even though you think she's an idiot.

1691
01:19:27,253 --> 01:19:30,173
Speaker 26: Winston Peters, you are nominated.

1692
01:19:29,812 --> 01:19:33,572
Speaker 2: For New Zealander of the Week. Nomine two also gets

1693
01:19:33,652 --> 01:19:37,372
Speaker 2: the A I Got You Award. Neil Finn is one

1694
01:19:37,412 --> 01:19:40,213
Speaker 2: of our greatest ever songwriters, and this week he released

1695
01:19:40,213 --> 01:19:41,492
Speaker 2: this statement on Facebook.

1696
01:19:41,732 --> 01:19:45,692
Speaker 20: My erections became weaker and weaker until they stopped altogether.

1697
01:19:46,293 --> 01:19:50,452
Speaker 2: No desire, no confidence, no control. When I said he

1698
01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:53,893
Speaker 2: released that statement, it was actually an AI scam. His

1699
01:19:54,053 --> 01:19:56,933
Speaker 2: management was so worried about the fake revelation that they

1700
01:19:57,013 --> 01:19:59,892
Speaker 2: released the statement that essentially said that while it's only

1701
01:20:00,053 --> 01:20:02,692
Speaker 2: natural for men of his age to experience this kind

1702
01:20:02,732 --> 01:20:05,133
Speaker 2: of thing, Neil hasn't been locked out of the love

1703
01:20:05,213 --> 01:20:09,412
Speaker 2: making just yet. Crowded house front man, don't dream it's over.

1704
01:20:09,652 --> 01:20:09,973
Speaker 15: It's not.

1705
01:20:10,293 --> 01:20:13,173
Speaker 2: Here's a message to your girl. By all accounts, there's

1706
01:20:13,213 --> 01:20:16,612
Speaker 2: still something so strong going on down there. Neil fin

1707
01:20:17,213 --> 01:20:21,053
Speaker 2: for not having a rectile dysfunction. You are nominated for

1708
01:20:21,213 --> 01:20:24,972
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week, but there can be only one,

1709
01:20:25,692 --> 01:20:35,532
Speaker 2: and the winner also gets the award Terminator Terminator two

1710
01:20:35,612 --> 01:20:40,372
Speaker 2: Judgment Day Aliens Titanic and Piranha two. This sprning He's

1711
01:20:40,412 --> 01:20:43,612
Speaker 2: been living here since twenty twelve. He's best mates with

1712
01:20:43,732 --> 01:20:46,812
Speaker 2: Sir Peter Jackson and the movies he's making near Welly

1713
01:20:46,933 --> 01:20:50,253
Speaker 2: pump hundreds of millions of dollars into our economy. And

1714
01:20:50,492 --> 01:20:54,412
Speaker 2: this week he officially became a New Zealand citizen.

1715
01:20:55,293 --> 01:20:59,892
Speaker 26: James Cameron, Welcome to New Zealand and thanks for the cash.

1716
01:21:00,452 --> 01:21:04,213
Speaker 3: May you make blue three D Alien movies near Weale.

1717
01:21:04,173 --> 01:21:09,893
Speaker 2: Forever you are the Matt and Tyler Afternoon New Zealander

1718
01:21:10,093 --> 01:21:22,173
Speaker 2: of the week. Take it away, Howie. You gotta say

1719
01:21:23,652 --> 01:21:26,093
Speaker 2: that Neil Finn story suddenly gave new meaning to that

1720
01:21:26,293 --> 01:21:34,372
Speaker 2: song when you come. Great song, great band plan, everything's

1721
01:21:34,372 --> 01:21:35,692
Speaker 2: working downstairs beautiful.

1722
01:21:45,133 --> 01:21:45,732
Speaker 13: I'll be that.

1723
01:21:49,772 --> 01:21:50,492
Speaker 1: Used talk said.

1724
01:21:50,572 --> 01:21:52,532
Speaker 27: Be looking forward to the bills come in for canceling

1725
01:21:52,572 --> 01:21:55,213
Speaker 27: the big Irex feries. The Minister for Rail Winston Peters,

1726
01:21:55,293 --> 01:21:57,492
Speaker 27: is on the show with us after five. How much

1727
01:21:57,532 --> 01:22:00,652
Speaker 27: should we really hope for from tomorrow's showdown between Donald

1728
01:22:00,652 --> 01:22:04,093
Speaker 27: Trump and Vladimir Putin? Plus sugar and fatter evil, the

1729
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:07,892
Speaker 27: ridiculous and I really mean ridiculous new rules for hospital

1730
01:22:07,933 --> 01:22:09,052
Speaker 27: cafet area foods.

1731
01:22:09,652 --> 01:22:11,612
Speaker 3: Thank you very much either, looking forward to that after

1732
01:22:11,933 --> 01:22:16,173
Speaker 3: for a clock now something happened this morning that we

1733
01:22:16,253 --> 01:22:16,812
Speaker 3: need to address.

1734
01:22:17,213 --> 01:22:21,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So we got a text this morning saying,

1735
01:22:21,933 --> 01:22:23,772
Speaker 2: you know, not this morning when we came on on

1736
01:22:23,933 --> 01:22:26,973
Speaker 2: you today saying yeah, are you the clowns in the

1737
01:22:27,053 --> 01:22:29,732
Speaker 2: afternoon that Mike Costkin was talking about this morning. Yes,

1738
01:22:29,893 --> 01:22:31,812
Speaker 2: And look, there's been some shots fired between the two

1739
01:22:31,853 --> 01:22:33,173
Speaker 2: shows in the past. I mean, there's a lot of

1740
01:22:33,213 --> 01:22:36,012
Speaker 2: love between us and Uncle Mike, but we do share

1741
01:22:36,013 --> 01:22:39,452
Speaker 2: a studio that's a shared working space, and there are

1742
01:22:39,772 --> 01:22:43,452
Speaker 2: some some I guess class points.

1743
01:22:43,253 --> 01:22:44,892
Speaker 3: And there's some niggles. There's some niggles there.

1744
01:22:44,973 --> 01:22:47,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's listen to this from the crossover between

1745
01:22:47,853 --> 01:22:50,052
Speaker 2: Mike Cosking and Ryan Bridge this morning.

1746
01:22:50,333 --> 01:22:56,532
Speaker 4: Two great shows, just worn out by tidying up the

1747
01:22:56,612 --> 01:23:00,412
Speaker 4: studio yet again this morning, Ryan, don't look at the

1748
01:23:00,532 --> 01:23:03,532
Speaker 4: round And my gorm was morons who live in swill

1749
01:23:03,893 --> 01:23:06,253
Speaker 4: And so you know, tell the old Dison out.

1750
01:23:06,612 --> 01:23:07,612
Speaker 9: Do I ever leave?

1751
01:23:08,572 --> 01:23:11,093
Speaker 2: You're you're okay but not great. If you want to,

1752
01:23:11,133 --> 01:23:13,612
Speaker 2: you can you tell me what exactly I'm doing wrong.

1753
01:23:13,812 --> 01:23:16,773
Speaker 4: You're a bit chambaulick, to be honest. I mean, you're inconsistent.

1754
01:23:16,933 --> 01:23:18,932
Speaker 4: So it's a good question you ask, and I'm glad

1755
01:23:18,933 --> 01:23:22,093
Speaker 4: we've got some time to explore it. So what you

1756
01:23:22,372 --> 01:23:24,412
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, where near as bad as say

1757
01:23:24,492 --> 01:23:28,612
Speaker 4: those clowns in the afternoon. There's shocking. But what you

1758
01:23:28,732 --> 01:23:31,173
Speaker 4: do is some days you're very good, and I think good.

1759
01:23:31,213 --> 01:23:32,812
Speaker 4: He's onto it, So there you go.

1760
01:23:33,372 --> 01:23:36,213
Speaker 2: That's the accusation that we're that we're messy in the

1761
01:23:36,253 --> 01:23:38,932
Speaker 2: studio here, and look, I just don't think that's true.

1762
01:23:38,973 --> 01:23:40,532
Speaker 2: I want to push back. I think I'm very clean.

1763
01:23:40,772 --> 01:23:44,293
Speaker 2: Tyler a bit bit filthy, but I'm pretty clean. And

1764
01:23:44,333 --> 01:23:46,572
Speaker 2: also there's a lot of people in the studio after us,

1765
01:23:46,692 --> 01:23:48,812
Speaker 2: before Mike gets in in the morning. Here they do

1766
01:23:48,893 --> 01:23:51,492
Speaker 2: Percy Allen, for example, and there's Darcy at night, so

1767
01:23:51,572 --> 01:23:53,053
Speaker 2: it's hard to know if it's us. I do know

1768
01:23:53,133 --> 01:23:55,133
Speaker 2: that this piece of citrus and the rubbish here is

1769
01:23:55,173 --> 01:23:57,572
Speaker 2: from my costain because I talk about it, So that

1770
01:23:57,732 --> 01:23:58,213
Speaker 2: is an issue.

1771
01:23:58,253 --> 01:23:58,932
Speaker 3: He loves lemon.

1772
01:23:59,173 --> 01:24:01,812
Speaker 2: The amount of citrus that's been thrown around the studio

1773
01:24:02,053 --> 01:24:04,772
Speaker 2: is is a little bit of an issue. But he

1774
01:24:04,933 --> 01:24:08,652
Speaker 2: goes on to make an aixation next that I have

1775
01:24:09,652 --> 01:24:14,173
Speaker 2: indisputable evidence that it's unfair and it's not me okay,

1776
01:24:14,692 --> 01:24:16,652
Speaker 2: exonerated from it. Listen to this. Do you know what

1777
01:24:16,772 --> 01:24:19,452
Speaker 2: the main complaint I thought you would raise is that

1778
01:24:19,532 --> 01:24:22,333
Speaker 2: I've got long legs and my knees to do that.

1779
01:24:22,532 --> 01:24:27,013
Speaker 4: Yes, screens full of disaster on the screens. I'm under there.

1780
01:24:27,372 --> 01:24:30,452
Speaker 4: Someone's gone under the glass screen there and fingered the

1781
01:24:30,532 --> 01:24:32,772
Speaker 4: glass screen. Look at look at the prints all over.

1782
01:24:33,492 --> 01:24:34,532
Speaker 4: It's shocking.

1783
01:24:36,652 --> 01:24:38,532
Speaker 2: Person. But no, no, it won't be a.

1784
01:24:38,572 --> 01:24:40,932
Speaker 4: Tech person fixing because no tech person fixing anything.

1785
01:24:41,532 --> 01:24:44,053
Speaker 3: Do you know what the fingerprints you can literally find out?

1786
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:46,772
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to because I'm under there with

1787
01:24:46,812 --> 01:24:49,133
Speaker 4: the G twenty spraying upside down.

1788
01:24:49,452 --> 01:24:50,773
Speaker 2: There's small fingers.

1789
01:24:53,412 --> 01:24:55,772
Speaker 3: Somebody with a small thumb around the office.

1790
01:24:55,853 --> 01:25:00,053
Speaker 4: I reckon, that's Matt, don't you Small fingered Matt.

1791
01:25:00,133 --> 01:25:05,372
Speaker 2: That's what we call it, Small fingered Matt. See, I

1792
01:25:05,452 --> 01:25:07,692
Speaker 2: resent that because I've had to put up my whole

1793
01:25:07,772 --> 01:25:12,492
Speaker 2: life being called gorilla hands. I've got disproportionately big hands.

1794
01:25:13,173 --> 01:25:15,732
Speaker 2: So after a lifetime have been called gorilla hands, I'm

1795
01:25:15,732 --> 01:25:17,493
Speaker 2: suddenly being called small fingers.

1796
01:25:17,253 --> 01:25:19,732
Speaker 3: Mattea which I look at them. A bunch of bananas over.

1797
01:25:19,652 --> 01:25:24,213
Speaker 2: There, I mean, stubby butts are on the end of bananas.

1798
01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:27,772
Speaker 2: That's what various partners in my life have called them,

1799
01:25:28,293 --> 01:25:30,372
Speaker 2: But I'm going to throw you under the bus. Here,

1800
01:25:30,452 --> 01:25:34,652
Speaker 2: Tyler around these fingerprints so the other day and you

1801
01:25:34,772 --> 01:25:36,813
Speaker 2: wanted the squiet. But if there's going to be accusations

1802
01:25:36,853 --> 01:25:39,412
Speaker 2: made against me, I'm going to throw you under the

1803
01:25:40,013 --> 01:25:43,412
Speaker 2: the bus. Sore we go. Tyler spilt his coffee the

1804
01:25:43,492 --> 01:25:46,532
Speaker 2: other day, and there was there was an incident a

1805
01:25:46,532 --> 01:25:48,813
Speaker 2: while ago where I spilt my coffee and I heroically

1806
01:25:48,893 --> 01:25:51,572
Speaker 2: ripped my shirt off to protect the electronics under here.

1807
01:25:51,732 --> 01:25:55,053
Speaker 2: You did say, because there's an inbuilt disk desk monitor, right,

1808
01:25:55,133 --> 01:25:57,973
Speaker 2: it's under it and it's covered by glass age and

1809
01:25:58,013 --> 01:26:00,812
Speaker 2: it's on my size. But Tyler spilt his coffee and

1810
01:26:00,933 --> 01:26:04,652
Speaker 2: it dribbled down during the break and it penetrated the glass,

1811
01:26:04,732 --> 01:26:06,852
Speaker 2: got under the glass. You got under the glass, right, yep.

1812
01:26:07,213 --> 01:26:12,013
Speaker 2: And and we couldn't clean it up. And who went

1813
01:26:12,133 --> 01:26:13,893
Speaker 2: under and tried to lift the glass? Tyler me?

1814
01:26:14,093 --> 01:26:15,253
Speaker 3: I tried to do the right thing.

1815
01:26:15,372 --> 01:26:16,652
Speaker 2: Heren't. It was my mess.

1816
01:26:16,812 --> 01:26:18,452
Speaker 3: I'm going to clean it up, so I see, get

1817
01:26:18,452 --> 01:26:19,893
Speaker 3: out of the way, please, mat I'm just going to

1818
01:26:19,933 --> 01:26:22,532
Speaker 3: try and lift that glass up, and I couldn't because

1819
01:26:22,532 --> 01:26:24,492
Speaker 3: I'd glued the thing down. Who glues that glass down?

1820
01:26:24,692 --> 01:26:27,652
Speaker 2: So if we check those fingerprints that my costing is

1821
01:26:27,692 --> 01:26:30,612
Speaker 2: talking about, they will be yours and I will take

1822
01:26:30,692 --> 01:26:35,572
Speaker 2: to court exhibit one my massive yam hands.

1823
01:26:37,253 --> 01:26:39,213
Speaker 3: So it's like called that a big man. Tiny they

1824
01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:40,452
Speaker 3: are big, Mitch, you've got over there.

1825
01:26:40,532 --> 01:26:42,452
Speaker 2: So what I want to say, I want to say

1826
01:26:42,732 --> 01:26:45,333
Speaker 2: is I want, actually I want an apology from from

1827
01:26:45,933 --> 01:26:50,452
Speaker 2: uncle Mike. It's Tyler tiny hands, well not Matt' small hands.

1828
01:26:50,652 --> 01:26:52,532
Speaker 3: Can I just say as well that after I couldn't

1829
01:26:52,532 --> 01:26:54,973
Speaker 3: get the glass off, about four other people came in

1830
01:26:55,053 --> 01:26:57,492
Speaker 3: and touched that glass. So the evidence is murky.

1831
01:26:57,612 --> 01:26:59,612
Speaker 2: The evidence, Like you know, I don't have the biggest

1832
01:26:59,652 --> 01:27:01,492
Speaker 2: hands in the world, but the evidence is murky. Well,

1833
01:27:01,572 --> 01:27:03,093
Speaker 2: one thing's for sure. It wasn't me because at no

1834
01:27:03,173 --> 01:27:05,213
Speaker 2: point did I touch the ND, no point did I

1835
01:27:05,253 --> 01:27:06,133
Speaker 2: try and help clean up.

1836
01:27:06,333 --> 01:27:08,173
Speaker 3: You're innocent, So you can get off the stand now

1837
01:27:08,452 --> 01:27:11,812
Speaker 3: leave the courtroom questions about me. But that's for another day.

1838
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:14,253
Speaker 3: All right, stuff, Okay, all right, that's to bed. Put

1839
01:27:14,293 --> 01:27:16,492
Speaker 3: that to bed, and an apology from uncle Mike is

1840
01:27:16,492 --> 01:27:19,452
Speaker 3: coming any day now, Oh, I'm sure it is. I

1841
01:27:19,572 --> 01:27:22,572
Speaker 3: demand one stand by on Monday morning, right coming up

1842
01:27:23,093 --> 01:27:24,932
Speaker 3: very shortly. We won't have a chat about book club

1843
01:27:24,973 --> 01:27:26,213
Speaker 3: We were going to get to this yesterday and we

1844
01:27:26,293 --> 01:27:28,812
Speaker 3: had so many text and phone calls about the humble

1845
01:27:28,973 --> 01:27:31,412
Speaker 3: old book club. There was a great story in the

1846
01:27:31,492 --> 01:27:33,452
Speaker 3: Herald about a book club that has been going for

1847
01:27:33,612 --> 01:27:36,572
Speaker 3: twenty years, and the author said it's been the best

1848
01:27:36,612 --> 01:27:39,853
Speaker 3: thing of her life that it's kept those close social connections.

1849
01:27:40,093 --> 01:27:41,732
Speaker 3: They get to read a lot of good books, drink

1850
01:27:41,812 --> 01:27:44,652
Speaker 3: some good peen on war, everything going for it. But

1851
01:27:44,732 --> 01:27:46,852
Speaker 3: it had us thinking, the book club does it still

1852
01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:48,253
Speaker 3: exist in good old New Zealand.

1853
01:27:48,412 --> 01:27:50,932
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about book clubs next eight hundred eighty

1854
01:27:51,133 --> 01:27:54,052
Speaker 2: ten eighty and mean aloud.

1855
01:27:58,532 --> 01:28:01,892
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred

1856
01:28:01,973 --> 01:28:03,932
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk, said.

1857
01:28:04,492 --> 01:28:07,452
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. She it is twenty one pass three, So.

1858
01:28:07,452 --> 01:28:08,932
Speaker 2: Why are we talking about book clubs?

1859
01:28:08,933 --> 01:28:11,092
Speaker 3: Tyler, Well, there was a great story in the Herald

1860
01:28:11,173 --> 01:28:13,612
Speaker 3: yesterday about a book club that has been going for

1861
01:28:13,812 --> 01:28:17,092
Speaker 3: twenty years. So the woman that wrote it, she says

1862
01:28:17,213 --> 01:28:20,372
Speaker 3: that it has kept her social connections strong. She's got

1863
01:28:20,412 --> 01:28:22,532
Speaker 3: the same group of ladies that she's gone to the

1864
01:28:22,532 --> 01:28:25,652
Speaker 3: book club for for that twenty years. They love to

1865
01:28:26,333 --> 01:28:28,732
Speaker 3: obviously have a few drinks when they're at book club.

1866
01:28:29,213 --> 01:28:29,772
Speaker 13: But it is.

1867
01:28:29,933 --> 01:28:32,532
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of those things that my parents

1868
01:28:32,572 --> 01:28:34,452
Speaker 3: had a week book club for a couple of years.

1869
01:28:34,812 --> 01:28:36,772
Speaker 3: I've never been to a book club because I just

1870
01:28:36,853 --> 01:28:38,253
Speaker 3: don't know if fellers are allowed.

1871
01:28:38,372 --> 01:28:38,812
Speaker 2: Is that true?

1872
01:28:39,253 --> 01:28:41,612
Speaker 3: It seems to be something for the women of New

1873
01:28:41,692 --> 01:28:44,213
Speaker 3: Zealand and around the world that you get together with

1874
01:28:44,293 --> 01:28:46,012
Speaker 3: the ladies and have the book club, But I don't

1875
01:28:46,013 --> 01:28:47,572
Speaker 3: know is it a thing for guys as well? I

1876
01:28:47,612 --> 01:28:48,133
Speaker 3: love to hear from you.

1877
01:28:48,173 --> 01:28:50,452
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighteen eighty this Texas says, please,

1878
01:28:50,492 --> 01:28:51,852
Speaker 2: can we not talk about book clubs?

1879
01:28:52,812 --> 01:28:53,012
Speaker 9: Wow?

1880
01:28:53,652 --> 01:28:59,293
Speaker 2: No, there's one rule. The first rule about book clubs

1881
01:28:59,333 --> 01:29:00,892
Speaker 2: is don't talk about book book clubs?

1882
01:29:01,093 --> 01:29:04,372
Speaker 3: Right? Oh okay, so it's code for something. Oh hundred

1883
01:29:04,452 --> 01:29:06,812
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1884
01:29:06,933 --> 01:29:11,492
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you. Hi, Lisa, Hi, Tyler, Lisa here.

1885
01:29:11,572 --> 01:29:14,532
Speaker 2: Our book club has been going for twenty seven years.

1886
01:29:14,893 --> 01:29:17,333
Speaker 3: That's a good nudge, twenty seven years to the book club.

1887
01:29:18,572 --> 01:29:19,772
Speaker 2: Jimmy, welcome to the show.

1888
01:29:20,933 --> 01:29:23,412
Speaker 28: Hi, Hi guys, how are you good? Many to hear

1889
01:29:23,412 --> 01:29:27,692
Speaker 28: he is you're both bloody awesome. Now, just before I

1890
01:29:27,772 --> 01:29:31,133
Speaker 28: say about the book Club. Nanny Hoskins is added again

1891
01:29:31,412 --> 01:29:34,572
Speaker 28: as usual. But listen, I'll tell you what and this

1892
01:29:34,772 --> 01:29:35,652
Speaker 28: is from my heart.

1893
01:29:35,893 --> 01:29:36,133
Speaker 1: Mate.

1894
01:29:36,732 --> 01:29:38,333
Speaker 25: John Key was on this morning.

1895
01:29:38,412 --> 01:29:41,612
Speaker 28: He's amazing, and I tell you, as he took over,

1896
01:29:41,973 --> 01:29:43,692
Speaker 28: the ratings would even be higher.

1897
01:29:43,933 --> 01:29:45,172
Speaker 7: Forget about Hoskins.

1898
01:29:45,333 --> 01:29:46,212
Speaker 25: Nanny Hoskins.

1899
01:29:46,412 --> 01:29:48,572
Speaker 2: He was giving a full John. He was giving a

1900
01:29:48,612 --> 01:29:52,293
Speaker 2: full throated support for drinking, wasn't he he was talking

1901
01:29:52,333 --> 01:29:55,293
Speaker 2: about when he gave up drinking on the campaign trail

1902
01:29:55,333 --> 01:29:56,253
Speaker 2: he never felt worse.

1903
01:29:57,372 --> 01:30:02,013
Speaker 28: Yeah, mate, what a straight shooter. But listen, guys, the

1904
01:30:02,133 --> 01:30:06,213
Speaker 28: book Club I think it should be for anyone. I'm dyslexic.

1905
01:30:06,412 --> 01:30:10,093
Speaker 28: I love to read, I can't I can't spell. And

1906
01:30:10,253 --> 01:30:13,333
Speaker 28: the weirdest thing is I can read and you know

1907
01:30:13,532 --> 01:30:18,452
Speaker 28: what I get by. But sometimes it can so frustrating.

1908
01:30:18,572 --> 01:30:21,253
Speaker 28: But I'll leave it at that. But you guys, stick

1909
01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:24,293
Speaker 28: to what you're doing. Don't worry about Nannie Hoskins. Baite,

1910
01:30:24,492 --> 01:30:27,572
Speaker 28: you're both great. God bless your perry is baked by.

1911
01:30:29,293 --> 01:30:32,532
Speaker 2: Jimmy. And look you got to say in Hoskin's defense

1912
01:30:32,612 --> 01:30:35,132
Speaker 2: when he was away, when he was away on holidays,

1913
01:30:35,173 --> 01:30:36,652
Speaker 2: and I know when he came back he said he

1914
01:30:36,692 --> 01:30:38,612
Speaker 2: never wanted to take holiday again. But when he was

1915
01:30:38,612 --> 01:30:42,213
Speaker 2: away on his holiday, this place got very messy. Indeed, certainly,

1916
01:30:42,412 --> 01:30:44,692
Speaker 2: and that's when we realized he's the highest paid cleaner

1917
01:30:44,692 --> 01:30:45,213
Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

1918
01:30:45,333 --> 01:30:47,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a good job with the vet in

1919
01:30:47,372 --> 01:30:47,732
Speaker 3: the morning.

1920
01:30:47,933 --> 01:30:50,053
Speaker 2: Not only is he vacuuming with his two dysons that

1921
01:30:50,093 --> 01:30:52,173
Speaker 2: he's got here, but he's also wiping down the desk.

1922
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:54,732
Speaker 2: And look, I've said I've said it before on the show.

1923
01:30:55,293 --> 01:30:57,333
Speaker 2: To the left of me, there's this sort of bookshelf

1924
01:30:57,452 --> 01:31:00,133
Speaker 2: thing and that's where Hoskin keeps his cleaning stuff. And

1925
01:31:00,213 --> 01:31:03,492
Speaker 2: there's more cleaning stuff here than there is in the

1926
01:31:03,572 --> 01:31:04,892
Speaker 2: officials he'd be cleaning cover.

1927
01:31:05,093 --> 01:31:07,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got about fifteen cans of what is that

1928
01:31:07,173 --> 01:31:10,053
Speaker 3: that g twenty to the spring around like deodorant. But

1929
01:31:10,452 --> 01:31:12,972
Speaker 3: God bless Mike Costkin. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1930
01:31:13,093 --> 01:31:13,612
Speaker 3: is the number to.

1931
01:31:13,612 --> 01:31:16,852
Speaker 2: Call, Nikola, Welcome to the show. You've started a book.

1932
01:31:16,652 --> 01:31:21,812
Speaker 29: Club, Hi, Oh, well sort of. Mine is with my

1933
01:31:22,133 --> 01:31:25,253
Speaker 29: fourteen age kids. So we've got a thirteen year old,

1934
01:31:25,412 --> 01:31:29,852
Speaker 29: a fifteen year old, sixteen, and a seventeen And obviously

1935
01:31:29,933 --> 01:31:32,893
Speaker 29: these days very hard to get kids off the devices

1936
01:31:33,173 --> 01:31:36,253
Speaker 29: and they're supposed to be reading for school. So I

1937
01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:38,892
Speaker 29: came up with the plot of sitting them all down

1938
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:41,893
Speaker 29: at dinner once a week and actually getting them to

1939
01:31:42,093 --> 01:31:45,173
Speaker 29: bring their book to the dinner table that you know,

1940
01:31:45,293 --> 01:31:48,173
Speaker 29: whatever they're working on for their class, reading whatever it

1941
01:31:48,253 --> 01:31:50,293
Speaker 29: might happen to be, or reading for you know, if

1942
01:31:50,293 --> 01:31:54,173
Speaker 29: they're reading for enjoyment, which hopefully they get into doing

1943
01:31:54,213 --> 01:31:57,692
Speaker 29: a little bit more and just talking about, you know,

1944
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Speaker 29: what they're reading, what the themes are, what they find interesting,

1945
01:32:01,933 --> 01:32:06,012
Speaker 29: trying to encourage them to just read as much as possible,

1946
01:32:06,213 --> 01:32:08,893
Speaker 29: and it's you know, it's turned out to be a

1947
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Speaker 29: really positive thing.

1948
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Speaker 2: I think I was talking about this the other day

1949
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Speaker 2: with my partner about reading and why reading so good

1950
01:32:14,452 --> 01:32:17,652
Speaker 2: for your brain because you have to concentrate on the words,

1951
01:32:17,692 --> 01:32:19,293
Speaker 2: but then you have to create the picture in your

1952
01:32:19,333 --> 01:32:22,772
Speaker 2: head whilst you're reading. So it's using your brain in

1953
01:32:23,133 --> 01:32:24,893
Speaker 2: such a fantastic way. And there's lots of studies have

1954
01:32:25,093 --> 01:32:28,772
Speaker 2: shown that people that read more the great brain house

1955
01:32:29,692 --> 01:32:34,612
Speaker 2: consequences for that. But a Nicolas, are your kids actually

1956
01:32:34,652 --> 01:32:35,692
Speaker 2: reading the book in advance?

1957
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Speaker 29: I think we're in the early stages of this, something

1958
01:32:41,173 --> 01:32:43,133
Speaker 29: I've only kicked off in the last couple of weeks

1959
01:32:44,452 --> 01:32:49,773
Speaker 29: there are at different levels and stages and levels of enthusiasm.

1960
01:32:50,093 --> 01:32:52,093
Speaker 29: Very a little bit as well. I mean partly what

1961
01:32:52,213 --> 01:32:54,732
Speaker 29: prompted it was that my thirteen year old son has

1962
01:32:54,933 --> 01:32:59,173
Speaker 29: just been assessed as having a sixteen year old reading level.

1963
01:32:59,492 --> 01:33:01,333
Speaker 2: Well well, at which.

1964
01:33:01,173 --> 01:33:03,412
Speaker 29: Point my husband and I said to each other there

1965
01:33:03,452 --> 01:33:06,412
Speaker 29: must be a whole lot more reading in fortnight than

1966
01:33:06,452 --> 01:33:10,812
Speaker 29: what we realize. Yeah, so that was if that gives

1967
01:33:10,853 --> 01:33:13,812
Speaker 29: you an indication of how much reading we sort of

1968
01:33:14,053 --> 01:33:19,173
Speaker 29: thought he was doing. Yeah, but it's obviously yes, I

1969
01:33:19,253 --> 01:33:21,093
Speaker 29: mean most of us, you know, back in the day

1970
01:33:21,173 --> 01:33:23,412
Speaker 29: that was that was all we could do apart from

1971
01:33:23,452 --> 01:33:29,372
Speaker 29: watch TV. And I think just the different form of

1972
01:33:29,532 --> 01:33:32,492
Speaker 29: concentration for kids when they have you know, when they're

1973
01:33:32,532 --> 01:33:34,932
Speaker 29: reading a book and concentrating on it chapter by chapter

1974
01:33:35,173 --> 01:33:38,932
Speaker 29: rather than you know, a few seconds on a reel

1975
01:33:39,173 --> 01:33:43,293
Speaker 29: or whatever they're doing on social media. It's just such

1976
01:33:43,333 --> 01:33:46,772
Speaker 29: a different discipline, I guess for ont of the better word.

1977
01:33:47,213 --> 01:33:48,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as we were talking about just the other

1978
01:33:48,772 --> 01:33:50,093
Speaker 2: day a company of watch day it was might have

1979
01:33:50,133 --> 01:33:53,652
Speaker 2: been Wednesday, we were talking about how studies are showing

1980
01:33:54,053 --> 01:33:58,133
Speaker 2: the damage that reels and TikTok and YouTube shorts and

1981
01:33:58,173 --> 01:34:00,973
Speaker 2: those shortfum videos are doing for kids' brains, and how

1982
01:34:01,093 --> 01:34:04,253
Speaker 2: difficult it makes for people. The more you look at those,

1983
01:34:04,333 --> 01:34:06,973
Speaker 2: the harder it is to do things that take a

1984
01:34:07,093 --> 01:34:09,532
Speaker 2: longer form of concert and a lot of people are

1985
01:34:09,572 --> 01:34:12,532
Speaker 2: finding it. You know, adults included much harder to read

1986
01:34:12,692 --> 01:34:16,572
Speaker 2: books or read long form articles or anything. So if

1987
01:34:16,612 --> 01:34:18,652
Speaker 2: you can get your kids to do that, if you

1988
01:34:18,692 --> 01:34:22,452
Speaker 2: can get them over that threshold where they start reading

1989
01:34:22,812 --> 01:34:24,812
Speaker 2: some of the greatest experiences in your life. I remember

1990
01:34:24,853 --> 01:34:26,253
Speaker 2: when I first read Lord of the Rings when I

1991
01:34:26,333 --> 01:34:28,933
Speaker 2: was a kid, I just I just loved it. I

1992
01:34:28,973 --> 01:34:30,133
Speaker 2: couldn't believe how great it was.

1993
01:34:31,293 --> 01:34:33,572
Speaker 29: Oh, I think just the fact that it gives kids,

1994
01:34:34,013 --> 01:34:36,013
Speaker 29: and you know, this is going to take I think

1995
01:34:36,053 --> 01:34:40,012
Speaker 29: it will be an ongoing challenge and the competition from

1996
01:34:40,893 --> 01:34:44,293
Speaker 29: devices and YouTube and gaming and you know everything else

1997
01:34:44,372 --> 01:34:49,453
Speaker 29: that's got that that real instant adrenaline buzz, that instant response,

1998
01:34:50,053 --> 01:34:55,052
Speaker 29: you know, all of those attractions, flash addictions that kids

1999
01:34:55,452 --> 01:34:59,053
Speaker 29: are getting into. I think it's it's going to be,

2000
01:34:59,853 --> 01:35:02,572
Speaker 29: you know, like I say, ongoing challenge. But but even

2001
01:35:02,652 --> 01:35:05,572
Speaker 29: just their vocabulary, you know, the breadth of if they're

2002
01:35:05,612 --> 01:35:09,772
Speaker 29: reading a whole breadths of material. Hopefully they're learning a

2003
01:35:09,853 --> 01:35:11,492
Speaker 29: broad of vocabulary, they're learning.

2004
01:35:11,293 --> 01:35:13,772
Speaker 7: To express themselves more effectively.

2005
01:35:13,572 --> 01:35:17,372
Speaker 29: And and just it does give them. I mean, to me,

2006
01:35:17,532 --> 01:35:20,932
Speaker 29: reading is always it's relaxation. It's sort of an escape

2007
01:35:21,013 --> 01:35:24,692
Speaker 29: from the real world. And I think just for kids

2008
01:35:24,812 --> 01:35:27,053
Speaker 29: knowing that there's, as you say, you can sort of

2009
01:35:27,133 --> 01:35:29,492
Speaker 29: create your own imaginary worlds and you're here as you

2010
01:35:29,612 --> 01:35:32,013
Speaker 29: are reading, rather than having it all just served up

2011
01:35:32,053 --> 01:35:32,932
Speaker 29: to you on the screen.

2012
01:35:33,333 --> 01:35:35,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting how times change. I think I've told

2013
01:35:35,732 --> 01:35:37,812
Speaker 2: the story before on the show, but when my mum

2014
01:35:37,893 --> 01:35:39,412
Speaker 2: was a kid, she used to read a lot, and

2015
01:35:39,732 --> 01:35:41,612
Speaker 2: her dad used to come and say, put that down

2016
01:35:41,652 --> 01:35:45,053
Speaker 2: and get outside, wasting your life. You're rotting your brain

2017
01:35:45,133 --> 01:35:47,572
Speaker 2: with those books. That's how much things have changed.

2018
01:35:48,532 --> 01:35:51,532
Speaker 29: My children are well aware that when I was a kid,

2019
01:35:51,652 --> 01:35:54,293
Speaker 29: I used to get snapped by the parents for being

2020
01:35:54,652 --> 01:35:57,532
Speaker 29: under my covers at some ungodly hour of the night

2021
01:35:57,652 --> 01:36:01,053
Speaker 29: with my torch my book. And that was sort of

2022
01:36:01,133 --> 01:36:04,612
Speaker 29: the you know, the deadly song was still being awake

2023
01:36:04,933 --> 01:36:06,093
Speaker 29: at you know whatever time.

2024
01:36:07,772 --> 01:36:09,173
Speaker 2: Tell you what if you kicked out the door now

2025
01:36:09,213 --> 01:36:12,572
Speaker 2: and you found your child reading a book under their

2026
01:36:12,612 --> 01:36:15,932
Speaker 2: covers with the torch, you probably carry on, you probably cry,

2027
01:36:16,053 --> 01:36:16,932
Speaker 2: you'd be so happy.

2028
01:36:18,973 --> 01:36:20,452
Speaker 29: Absolutely No.

2029
01:36:20,732 --> 01:36:21,052
Speaker 24: Times.

2030
01:36:21,173 --> 01:36:23,812
Speaker 29: Times have well and truly changed to the point where

2031
01:36:24,372 --> 01:36:26,093
Speaker 29: you know, when you do the back in my day,

2032
01:36:26,173 --> 01:36:28,572
Speaker 29: they're like, Mum, that just doesn't count. It's it is

2033
01:36:28,692 --> 01:36:30,412
Speaker 29: so far from your day, it's not funny.

2034
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Speaker 2: Nicholo. If you've been involved in one of those wine

2035
01:36:33,133 --> 01:36:36,333
Speaker 2: soaked adult book clubs, though not adult books, but book

2036
01:36:36,372 --> 01:36:39,532
Speaker 2: clubs involving adults, I would have.

2037
01:36:39,572 --> 01:36:42,173
Speaker 29: To say, with four teenagers at the table, I am

2038
01:36:42,333 --> 01:36:47,053
Speaker 29: bringing the wine, not for them, not for them. No,

2039
01:36:47,412 --> 01:36:50,253
Speaker 29: I haven't, but I can. I can fully understand how

2040
01:36:50,532 --> 01:36:52,612
Speaker 29: you know, the grown up book clubs may well.

2041
01:36:52,532 --> 01:36:55,372
Speaker 7: Be a bit of a fifty fifty of the books and.

2042
01:36:56,013 --> 01:36:59,892
Speaker 29: The wine and cheese. You know, all power, all power

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01:36:59,973 --> 01:37:00,692
Speaker 29: to them, I think.

2044
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Speaker 2: Well, as the saying goes, if the book club ends

2045
01:37:03,053 --> 01:37:05,093
Speaker 2: up at a nightclub, was it ever a book club

2046
01:37:05,133 --> 01:37:11,013
Speaker 2: to start with? Fair point, Nicolie, you're great, Thank you

2047
01:37:11,213 --> 01:37:13,093
Speaker 2: very much. Joe one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

2048
01:37:13,093 --> 01:37:15,293
Speaker 2: you're part of a book club, love to hear from you.

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01:37:15,532 --> 01:37:19,053
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this Northeastern University study from twenty twenty four,

2050
01:37:19,173 --> 01:37:21,812
Speaker 2: and it estimates that attention span on tasks has dropped

2051
01:37:21,853 --> 01:37:24,732
Speaker 2: from two and a half minutes to about forty five

2052
01:37:24,812 --> 01:37:27,172
Speaker 2: seconds in the last ten years for the average American

2053
01:37:27,412 --> 01:37:29,532
Speaker 2: japis So if you've got an attention span of forty

2054
01:37:29,572 --> 01:37:32,093
Speaker 2: five seconds, pretty hard to read. Lord of the Rings,

2055
01:37:32,133 --> 01:37:32,772
Speaker 2: it certainly is.

2056
01:37:33,213 --> 01:37:35,772
Speaker 3: It is twenty nine to four headlines coming.

2057
01:37:35,612 --> 01:37:40,772
Speaker 17: Up News Talk sa'd be headline with blue bubble taxis

2058
01:37:40,772 --> 01:37:43,612
Speaker 17: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Police have named

2059
01:37:43,612 --> 01:37:46,253
Speaker 17: a woman fatally shot by an officer in christ Church

2060
01:37:46,333 --> 01:37:48,532
Speaker 17: on Wednesday night is fifty three year.

2061
01:37:48,452 --> 01:37:50,333
Speaker 2: Old to ado Ha Nui Poorhior.

2062
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Speaker 17: A forty seven year old man also shot by police,

2063
01:37:53,372 --> 01:37:57,093
Speaker 17: remains in a critical but stable condition. New Zealander Sarah

2064
01:37:57,133 --> 01:37:59,893
Speaker 17: Shaw will walk free from a Texas detention center with

2065
01:38:00,013 --> 01:38:02,572
Speaker 17: her six year old son Isaac this week. They've been

2066
01:38:02,612 --> 01:38:05,732
Speaker 17: in custody for three weeks over a visa discrepancy when

2067
01:38:05,732 --> 01:38:09,012
Speaker 17: they tried to re enter the US from Canada. Stats

2068
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Speaker 17: n Z data shows rising inflation, with the rate for

2069
01:38:11,812 --> 01:38:15,532
Speaker 17: food back up at five percent and continuing sharp rises

2070
01:38:15,572 --> 01:38:19,213
Speaker 17: for energy. Notable numbers include butter went up from forty

2071
01:38:19,293 --> 01:38:22,412
Speaker 17: two percent in a year, cheese more than twenty nine

2072
01:38:22,772 --> 01:38:27,293
Speaker 17: milk sixteen and electricity at least eleven. The government wants

2073
01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:31,333
Speaker 17: to make protesting outside homes illegal after increased action at

2074
01:38:31,412 --> 01:38:36,253
Speaker 17: residences of people, including MPs and judges. US researchers have

2075
01:38:36,372 --> 01:38:40,253
Speaker 17: used AI to invent atom by atom, two new potential

2076
01:38:40,293 --> 01:38:44,652
Speaker 17: antibiotics that could kill superbugs with success in laboratory and

2077
01:38:44,772 --> 01:38:48,932
Speaker 17: animal tests. Plus you went on to one thousand funerals

2078
01:38:49,253 --> 01:38:51,892
Speaker 17: by the age of eighteen. Now it's inspired a solo

2079
01:38:51,973 --> 01:38:54,812
Speaker 17: stage show. See the full story at ENZ at Herald Premium.

2080
01:38:55,093 --> 01:38:56,253
Speaker 17: Now back to Matton Tyler.

2081
01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:58,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Wendy. We're talking about book clubs.

2082
01:38:58,333 --> 01:39:00,173
Speaker 3: Great story in the Herald yesterday about a book club

2083
01:39:00,213 --> 01:39:03,133
Speaker 3: that's been going for twenty years. So we want to

2084
01:39:03,173 --> 01:39:05,093
Speaker 3: hear what goes on at your book club and is

2085
01:39:05,173 --> 01:39:08,013
Speaker 3: it just an excuse to have a few wines and

2086
01:39:08,013 --> 01:39:08,692
Speaker 3: get a boost?

2087
01:39:08,732 --> 01:39:09,933
Speaker 2: Well, what do you need an excuse to have a

2088
01:39:10,013 --> 01:39:11,092
Speaker 2: few wines and get boosts.

2089
01:39:11,133 --> 01:39:12,732
Speaker 3: It's a good point and I love getting boost and

2090
01:39:12,812 --> 01:39:13,532
Speaker 3: isn't the best thing.

2091
01:39:13,452 --> 01:39:16,812
Speaker 2: That we can do now in these socially isolated times

2092
01:39:16,893 --> 01:39:21,613
Speaker 2: when we're working increased hours to find excuses to get

2093
01:39:21,933 --> 01:39:25,253
Speaker 2: together This Texas is book clubs is just code for

2094
01:39:25,412 --> 01:39:28,173
Speaker 2: wine club I love that, So I wait, one hundred

2095
01:39:28,173 --> 01:39:30,053
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. If you're running a book club,

2096
01:39:30,213 --> 01:39:33,692
Speaker 2: is it just a wine club? And if so, is

2097
01:39:33,732 --> 01:39:34,452
Speaker 2: there anything wrong with that?

2098
01:39:34,732 --> 01:39:34,932
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2099
01:39:35,412 --> 01:39:37,452
Speaker 3: I had one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2100
01:39:37,452 --> 01:39:37,732
Speaker 3: to call?

2101
01:39:37,772 --> 01:39:40,492
Speaker 2: I always thought tuple where parties were code for I

2102
01:39:40,532 --> 01:39:42,253
Speaker 2: don't know something I can do.

2103
01:39:42,732 --> 01:39:43,732
Speaker 3: I don't think much too.

2104
01:39:43,853 --> 01:39:45,133
Speaker 2: Were sold keys in the bowl?

2105
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:45,732
Speaker 7: Is that right?

2106
01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:46,093
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2107
01:39:46,133 --> 01:39:47,333
Speaker 3: I hade hundred eighty ten eighty.

2108
01:39:47,412 --> 01:39:48,333
Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the show.

2109
01:39:49,532 --> 01:39:49,973
Speaker 20: How are you?

2110
01:39:51,173 --> 01:39:54,333
Speaker 25: Thanks for taking the call. I was listening yesterday, but

2111
01:39:54,412 --> 01:39:56,293
Speaker 25: I was too late ringing in about the book club,

2112
01:39:56,933 --> 01:39:59,132
Speaker 25: and I thought i'd share with you and your listeners

2113
01:40:00,093 --> 01:40:02,972
Speaker 25: the one that's operating in our family. I've got fourteen

2114
01:40:03,053 --> 01:40:06,852
Speaker 25: grandkids and they started at about six years ago, and

2115
01:40:07,652 --> 01:40:10,333
Speaker 25: they all readers. You know, some are working full time,

2116
01:40:10,492 --> 01:40:12,972
Speaker 25: the oldest one is twenty eight, and some are still

2117
01:40:13,013 --> 01:40:15,612
Speaker 25: at primary. So there's a good cross section. Some have

2118
01:40:15,692 --> 01:40:19,372
Speaker 25: got degrees, some are working in different places. But the

2119
01:40:19,492 --> 01:40:22,293
Speaker 25: book club they started was I think it was in

2120
01:40:22,372 --> 01:40:27,612
Speaker 25: twenty fourteen, and they it was fourteen and fourteen, so

2121
01:40:27,772 --> 01:40:30,732
Speaker 25: they had to read fourteen books if they could, and

2122
01:40:30,812 --> 01:40:34,452
Speaker 25: then fifteen and fifteen they're now up to twenty five

2123
01:40:34,732 --> 01:40:35,532
Speaker 25: and twenty five.

2124
01:40:35,732 --> 01:40:41,052
Speaker 2: Wow, so just understand I'm a bit slow. So fourteen

2125
01:40:41,093 --> 01:40:42,652
Speaker 2: and fourteen what weeks?

2126
01:40:42,893 --> 01:40:45,573
Speaker 25: Books in twenty and fourteen.

2127
01:40:46,293 --> 01:40:48,213
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. That's brilliant. Yeah, what a

2128
01:40:48,253 --> 01:40:50,532
Speaker 2: great And so they've stuck with it to twenty five

2129
01:40:50,572 --> 01:40:51,133
Speaker 2: and twenty five.

2130
01:40:51,293 --> 01:40:52,852
Speaker 9: Well so far, Well they're up to it now.

2131
01:40:52,893 --> 01:40:53,572
Speaker 25: They're up to it now.

2132
01:40:53,652 --> 01:40:57,013
Speaker 2: But that's that's a book every two weeks. That's that's imprison.

2133
01:40:57,612 --> 01:41:00,492
Speaker 25: Yeah, and it's good for them. It's I mean, they're

2134
01:41:00,492 --> 01:41:03,053
Speaker 25: not all book worms. They're quite balanced that they all

2135
01:41:03,173 --> 01:41:06,053
Speaker 25: sorts of things, drama, sport and everything like that, but

2136
01:41:07,412 --> 01:41:09,532
Speaker 25: they try to do it and if they can achieve it,

2137
01:41:09,853 --> 01:41:12,932
Speaker 25: and they swap books amongst themselves. I don't think there's

2138
01:41:12,933 --> 01:41:16,133
Speaker 25: any wine involved for the young ones. And they're all

2139
01:41:16,213 --> 01:41:22,572
Speaker 25: in different places you know, Auckland, Brisbane, Wellington, whatever, but

2140
01:41:22,933 --> 01:41:25,652
Speaker 25: it's the sort of thing and it's really fantastic for

2141
01:41:25,812 --> 01:41:29,772
Speaker 25: them that they all converse. Well they and two of them,

2142
01:41:29,973 --> 01:41:31,973
Speaker 25: I think three of them have just done their prerecs

2143
01:41:32,692 --> 01:41:36,173
Speaker 25: at I think Malza, MCT Grammar, sind Oran's and another

2144
01:41:36,853 --> 01:41:39,133
Speaker 25: school can't really high but they had to and a

2145
01:41:39,213 --> 01:41:43,013
Speaker 25: lot of the literacy is one of those prerecks, and

2146
01:41:43,213 --> 01:41:46,173
Speaker 25: that's the literacy one they just waltzed through. It was

2147
01:41:46,293 --> 01:41:48,612
Speaker 25: just amazing. So it's just so good for them.

2148
01:41:48,732 --> 01:41:51,652
Speaker 2: That's so great to hear Phil who picks the books. Though,

2149
01:41:51,732 --> 01:41:53,732
Speaker 2: You've got to come up with just picking twenty five

2150
01:41:53,772 --> 01:41:55,133
Speaker 2: books in a year. And you know, if I did

2151
01:41:55,173 --> 01:41:57,572
Speaker 2: the maths on that, you've got fourteen, you've got fifteen,

2152
01:41:57,692 --> 01:41:59,652
Speaker 2: you've got sixteen seven. That's a lot of books that

2153
01:41:59,692 --> 01:42:00,572
Speaker 2: someone's had to select.

2154
01:42:01,372 --> 01:42:03,772
Speaker 25: They picked their own book and then they pass to

2155
01:42:03,853 --> 01:42:04,492
Speaker 25: the next person.

2156
01:42:04,732 --> 01:42:08,092
Speaker 2: Wow. How good. Oh, well, good on you for having grandkids.

2157
01:42:08,133 --> 01:42:10,732
Speaker 2: That's that's awesome. Phil. It makes me think of that

2158
01:42:11,173 --> 01:42:14,293
Speaker 2: Denzel Washington movie The Equalizer where he's trying to read

2159
01:42:14,853 --> 01:42:16,812
Speaker 2: the one hundred best books of all times. So he's

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Speaker 2: reading them from one hundred down. Yeah, to honor his

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01:42:19,372 --> 01:42:19,892
Speaker 2: dead wife.

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01:42:20,293 --> 01:42:22,213
Speaker 3: Here's a great text here, get oy, guys. I recently

2163
01:42:22,293 --> 01:42:25,412
Speaker 3: joined a book club through a loose friend. I love reading.

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01:42:25,612 --> 01:42:27,492
Speaker 3: I read the recommended book and had lots of it.

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01:42:27,692 --> 01:42:29,412
Speaker 2: What's a loose friend? I don't know.

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01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:32,253
Speaker 3: Wow, here we go. I think it just explains it.

2167
01:42:32,572 --> 01:42:34,293
Speaker 3: So I read the recommended book and had lots of

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01:42:34,333 --> 01:42:36,733
Speaker 3: thoughts about it. However, when I got to the book

2169
01:42:36,772 --> 01:42:39,333
Speaker 3: club night, one of the women basically smoked at me

2170
01:42:39,492 --> 01:42:42,213
Speaker 3: and said they don't always actually read the book. It's

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01:42:42,333 --> 01:42:44,692
Speaker 3: just an excuse to get together to drink wine.

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01:42:44,772 --> 01:42:45,012
Speaker 9: Really.

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01:42:45,173 --> 01:42:47,452
Speaker 3: I then had an awkward evening because I didn't know

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01:42:47,572 --> 01:42:49,652
Speaker 3: anyone and had nothing to talk with them about. But

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01:42:49,732 --> 01:42:52,013
Speaker 3: the wine was very good. Have I missed something here?

2176
01:42:52,253 --> 01:42:54,412
Speaker 3: As book club just effectively.

2177
01:42:53,933 --> 01:42:54,452
Speaker 2: The wine club?

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01:42:55,372 --> 01:42:55,572
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2179
01:42:55,652 --> 01:42:56,372
Speaker 2: But what's wrong with that?

2180
01:42:56,772 --> 01:42:58,932
Speaker 3: Exactly? It sounds like a great time. I mean, if

2181
01:42:58,973 --> 01:43:01,692
Speaker 3: it's a chance to come around and socialize that if

2182
01:43:01,732 --> 01:43:03,893
Speaker 3: the book is just the excuse to get around and

2183
01:43:03,933 --> 01:43:07,572
Speaker 3: socialize and drink some wine and have a laugh, get amongst.

2184
01:43:07,213 --> 01:43:10,973
Speaker 2: It, go hard. Yeah, that's right. This business is No

2185
01:43:11,333 --> 01:43:14,253
Speaker 2: self respecting man would ever be seen at a book club.

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01:43:14,572 --> 01:43:16,932
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, is that true? I wait, one hundred eighty

2187
01:43:17,013 --> 01:43:19,732
Speaker 3: ten eighty. It is twenty wonder four.

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01:43:21,013 --> 01:43:24,213
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on. Oh, eight

2189
01:43:24,333 --> 01:43:27,933
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Tylor Adams. Afternoons

2190
01:43:28,133 --> 01:43:28,652
Speaker 1: news talks.

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01:43:28,652 --> 01:43:30,772
Speaker 3: There'd be it is eighteen to four and we're talking

2192
01:43:30,772 --> 01:43:32,972
Speaker 3: about book clubs. Are you part of a book club.

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01:43:33,492 --> 01:43:35,213
Speaker 3: What goes on in the book club? Do you drink

2194
01:43:35,213 --> 01:43:37,253
Speaker 3: a lot of wine? Is it a chance to socialize

2195
01:43:37,293 --> 01:43:38,492
Speaker 3: and have a laugh with your mates?

2196
01:43:38,732 --> 01:43:38,932
Speaker 2: Really?

2197
01:43:39,013 --> 01:43:40,972
Speaker 3: Can hear from you on O eight hundred eighty ten

2198
01:43:41,133 --> 01:43:42,732
Speaker 3: eighty Matt and Tyler?

2199
01:43:42,812 --> 01:43:46,213
Speaker 2: I normally love your show. But how dare you? How

2200
01:43:46,372 --> 01:43:49,572
Speaker 2: dare you? You have stolen my dreams in my childhood? No,

2201
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:51,893
Speaker 2: how dare you? I am a man who has a

2202
01:43:51,933 --> 01:43:56,932
Speaker 2: book club with my friends. We're not all poker drinking whiskey.

2203
01:43:57,812 --> 01:43:59,532
Speaker 2: I think that's around the wrong way. But I get

2204
01:43:59,572 --> 01:44:01,892
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, we say we're not all poker.

2205
01:44:02,013 --> 01:44:04,132
Speaker 2: We're not all whiskey drinking poker beings.

2206
01:44:04,293 --> 01:44:04,492
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2207
01:44:04,532 --> 01:44:06,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, But he's got the two things around the wrong

2208
01:44:06,133 --> 01:44:08,492
Speaker 2: way there. So how do you know? But we were

2209
01:44:08,492 --> 01:44:10,732
Speaker 2: just reading out the text there the texter.

2210
01:44:11,293 --> 01:44:13,452
Speaker 3: So he was annoyed that apparently book clubs are not

2211
01:44:13,532 --> 01:44:13,812
Speaker 3: for men.

2212
01:44:14,213 --> 01:44:14,253
Speaker 20: No.

2213
01:44:15,412 --> 01:44:17,093
Speaker 2: I think he thinks that when I read out that

2214
01:44:17,173 --> 01:44:19,612
Speaker 2: text that said no self respecting man would ever go

2215
01:44:19,652 --> 01:44:20,933
Speaker 2: to a book club, he thought that that was my

2216
01:44:21,053 --> 01:44:23,133
Speaker 2: personal opinion. Yeah, I was just reading out their opinion

2217
01:44:23,173 --> 01:44:24,772
Speaker 2: other people. We share the opinions of people.

2218
01:44:25,013 --> 01:44:27,093
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we do oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten

2219
01:44:27,213 --> 01:44:28,412
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to.

2220
01:44:28,452 --> 01:44:30,293
Speaker 2: Call Margaret, Welcome to the show.

2221
01:44:31,213 --> 01:44:35,213
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, you've been in a book club for a

2222
01:44:35,293 --> 01:44:35,972
Speaker 3: couple of decades.

2223
01:44:36,013 --> 01:44:41,772
Speaker 30: Well, yes, for nearly nearly thirty years. Here was going

2224
01:44:41,853 --> 01:44:45,812
Speaker 30: before that, and there was still another original member when

2225
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:49,253
Speaker 30: I joined in it now too. We're not a big group,

2226
01:44:49,452 --> 01:44:52,452
Speaker 30: but we all met on and dust. I can't never

2227
01:44:52,532 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 30: remember night when we drank wine, right, just do it

2228
01:44:57,013 --> 01:44:59,852
Speaker 30: might have had perhaps at Christmas time? Perhaps?

2229
01:45:01,412 --> 01:45:03,612
Speaker 2: How are you picking the books, Margaret?

2230
01:45:04,692 --> 01:45:07,333
Speaker 30: We have a catalog couples out at the end of

2231
01:45:07,412 --> 01:45:10,492
Speaker 30: each year and we all take a turn at picking

2232
01:45:10,612 --> 01:45:14,812
Speaker 30: so many books, and then I collect them and we

2233
01:45:14,973 --> 01:45:17,572
Speaker 30: have twelve of them. We've picked twenty five books and

2234
01:45:18,293 --> 01:45:21,013
Speaker 30: about three or four reach and they listened down and

2235
01:45:21,133 --> 01:45:22,772
Speaker 30: they send them out to us where.

2236
01:45:22,572 --> 01:45:23,253
Speaker 11: We picked them up.

2237
01:45:23,532 --> 01:45:25,612
Speaker 2: Well, is that the wick Cools catalog?

2238
01:45:27,213 --> 01:45:31,333
Speaker 30: No, no, it's not. It's the workers I've said before,

2239
01:45:31,532 --> 01:45:33,853
Speaker 30: wa group discussion.

2240
01:45:33,492 --> 01:45:39,532
Speaker 2: Groups, right, and so never wine involved. Is there repercussions

2241
01:45:39,572 --> 01:45:41,173
Speaker 2: for people that just turn up and they've done the

2242
01:45:41,213 --> 01:45:44,372
Speaker 2: blink list, or they haven't read the book, or they've

2243
01:45:44,412 --> 01:45:45,053
Speaker 2: run it through checks.

2244
01:45:46,452 --> 01:45:49,532
Speaker 30: You usually just well we talk a lot too. We

2245
01:45:49,612 --> 01:45:51,132
Speaker 30: can get sidetracked here.

2246
01:45:51,053 --> 01:45:53,572
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, well, I mean that's the point. It's just

2247
01:45:54,093 --> 01:45:55,932
Speaker 2: it's a great way to get together and you've got,

2248
01:45:56,692 --> 01:45:58,452
Speaker 2: you know, a focus of something to talk about.

2249
01:45:59,973 --> 01:46:01,892
Speaker 30: Some have read the book and loved it, and others

2250
01:46:01,973 --> 01:46:06,893
Speaker 30: absolutely hate us. From someone else's opinion.

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01:46:06,933 --> 01:46:08,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like a good group. Mark, great, Thank you

2252
01:46:08,893 --> 01:46:09,133
Speaker 3: very much.

2253
01:46:09,173 --> 01:46:12,012
Speaker 2: Be sure. I only brought up the wick Calls list

2254
01:46:12,053 --> 01:46:14,452
Speaker 2: because there one hundred box for twenty twenty five, twenty

2255
01:46:14,492 --> 01:46:18,213
Speaker 2: twenty six came out and just looking there, just to

2256
01:46:18,293 --> 01:46:21,812
Speaker 2: hit of the hobbit, there is a lifeless, punishing Thirteen

2257
01:46:21,812 --> 01:46:23,772
Speaker 2: Ways to Love Your Life You've got by Matt Heath.

2258
01:46:23,853 --> 01:46:25,612
Speaker 3: It's a good book, that one, and that's fast moving

2259
01:46:25,652 --> 01:46:26,612
Speaker 3: up the chance, I think.

2260
01:46:26,452 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 2: So hopefully so that one will be in a few

2261
01:46:28,853 --> 01:46:30,052
Speaker 2: talk book.

2262
01:46:32,333 --> 01:46:35,173
Speaker 3: Bruce, you have been in a book club of eighteen months.

2263
01:46:36,372 --> 01:46:38,572
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's the at all I was. I was

2264
01:46:38,612 --> 01:46:42,372
Speaker 11: asked to by a neighbor to the road who was

2265
01:46:42,452 --> 01:46:48,692
Speaker 11: the only man in the book club. There's about oh

2266
01:46:49,293 --> 01:46:52,772
Speaker 11: you get about up to about a dozen or fifteen

2267
01:46:52,812 --> 01:46:56,372
Speaker 11: women or all of us come along, good eyes, and

2268
01:46:57,333 --> 01:47:00,412
Speaker 11: I've got another guy who joined since so there's three

2269
01:47:00,532 --> 01:47:05,253
Speaker 11: men come along, and what do we do? We go,

2270
01:47:06,652 --> 01:47:09,692
Speaker 11: they'll go around each one of us and ask us

2271
01:47:09,772 --> 01:47:12,173
Speaker 11: what we've read. And we'll so we've read, and what

2272
01:47:12,293 --> 01:47:14,973
Speaker 11: the book was like, and if we enjoyed it or not.

2273
01:47:17,492 --> 01:47:20,892
Speaker 11: We sometimes we get we'll read more, get through more

2274
01:47:20,933 --> 01:47:21,812
Speaker 11: than one book a month?

2275
01:47:22,612 --> 01:47:22,772
Speaker 1: Right?

2276
01:47:22,893 --> 01:47:25,652
Speaker 2: How good? And and and as I say, is a

2277
01:47:25,732 --> 01:47:28,012
Speaker 2: party situation or is it totally focused on the book?

2278
01:47:28,053 --> 01:47:29,053
Speaker 2: Are you having drinks with that?

2279
01:47:31,293 --> 01:47:38,333
Speaker 11: Yes, drinks tea of tea and a whiskey. And no,

2280
01:47:39,053 --> 01:47:43,812
Speaker 11: I've never drunk in my life. Welcome and I am

2281
01:47:43,973 --> 01:47:45,012
Speaker 11: now seventy six.

2282
01:47:45,452 --> 01:47:48,812
Speaker 2: Oh really right? Yes, well well done. That's good.

2283
01:47:50,933 --> 01:47:55,652
Speaker 11: Anyway, the book club here is as I say, there's

2284
01:47:55,692 --> 01:47:58,492
Speaker 11: only only a cup of tea. But it's only for

2285
01:47:58,572 --> 01:48:02,093
Speaker 11: about an hour and hour and a quarter. And to

2286
01:48:02,173 --> 01:48:06,173
Speaker 11: get around everybody you need to you need to need

2287
01:48:06,293 --> 01:48:12,253
Speaker 11: to not fluff around. What else do I asked me?

2288
01:48:12,772 --> 01:48:13,093
Speaker 3: What's there?

2289
01:48:13,093 --> 01:48:13,612
Speaker 2: A biscuits?

2290
01:48:15,973 --> 01:48:18,333
Speaker 11: I just chocolate or playing biscuits?

2291
01:48:18,652 --> 01:48:20,532
Speaker 2: What he goes sounds like a good time, Bruce, Thank

2292
01:48:20,572 --> 01:48:22,133
Speaker 2: you so much for your call. Well, the gentleman who

2293
01:48:22,213 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 2: sent in text saying no self respecting man would have

2294
01:48:24,772 --> 01:48:27,372
Speaker 2: a book club kere to finish the idea with a

2295
01:48:27,452 --> 01:48:30,732
Speaker 2: because yeah, why why text did it? Text that? And

2296
01:48:30,772 --> 01:48:33,133
Speaker 2: why would no self respecting man be part of a

2297
01:48:33,133 --> 01:48:35,213
Speaker 2: book club? Because Bruce just rang up and he has

2298
01:48:35,213 --> 01:48:37,093
Speaker 2: a bloody great time at the book club with his

2299
01:48:38,293 --> 01:48:42,293
Speaker 2: twelve twelve woman and a cup of tea. And you

2300
01:48:42,412 --> 01:48:43,372
Speaker 2: manage two book clubs?

2301
01:48:44,253 --> 01:48:44,412
Speaker 24: Yes?

2302
01:48:44,492 --> 01:48:44,692
Speaker 12: I do?

2303
01:48:46,652 --> 01:48:48,652
Speaker 2: And how do they work? And when you say you

2304
01:48:48,732 --> 01:48:50,452
Speaker 2: manage them, do you have to choose the box?

2305
01:48:51,372 --> 01:48:51,412
Speaker 11: No?

2306
01:48:51,612 --> 01:48:53,412
Speaker 8: No, we all choose the box.

2307
01:48:53,812 --> 01:48:59,012
Speaker 12: We get catalog each year about October from the years,

2308
01:48:59,013 --> 01:49:03,652
Speaker 12: which is the FWS group christ and I must step

2309
01:49:03,652 --> 01:49:05,212
Speaker 12: about one thousand, teen hundred.

2310
01:49:04,973 --> 01:49:06,333
Speaker 7: Book clubs in New Zealand.

2311
01:49:06,412 --> 01:49:08,293
Speaker 12: So get two here that I managed.

2312
01:49:08,772 --> 01:49:10,133
Speaker 18: They're probably about six or weather.

2313
01:49:12,053 --> 01:49:15,812
Speaker 12: That's great, and we do have wine. But you we

2314
01:49:15,933 --> 01:49:21,812
Speaker 12: discussed the book. Yep, sometimes we hate the book and

2315
01:49:22,053 --> 01:49:25,213
Speaker 12: its sunny how much you've discussed the book and go

2316
01:49:25,412 --> 01:49:26,973
Speaker 12: back to I didn't get that?

2317
01:49:27,372 --> 01:49:28,972
Speaker 25: Yeah you read again?

2318
01:49:29,333 --> 01:49:32,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you're running two book clubs, and do

2319
01:49:32,093 --> 01:49:34,333
Speaker 2: you have to read two different books for each book

2320
01:49:34,372 --> 01:49:36,572
Speaker 2: club or do you have the same book.

2321
01:49:38,133 --> 01:49:40,173
Speaker 5: We will read the same book and we get back

2322
01:49:40,213 --> 01:49:40,852
Speaker 5: and discuss it.

2323
01:49:41,293 --> 01:49:50,412
Speaker 2: But I read so I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, Then we're

2324
01:49:50,412 --> 01:49:52,812
Speaker 2: trying to sort out your line. It's cutting off, but

2325
01:49:54,333 --> 01:49:56,492
Speaker 2: we were loving that chat. So we'll try and sort

2326
01:49:56,532 --> 01:49:57,972
Speaker 2: out your line and get back to you if we can.

2327
01:49:58,133 --> 01:50:00,293
Speaker 2: And that's pretty surely. Welcome to the show.

2328
01:50:01,612 --> 01:50:06,692
Speaker 31: Yes, hello, hello. I have been involved in the book

2329
01:50:06,772 --> 01:50:11,612
Speaker 31: club for about twelve years. Our book club is a

2330
01:50:11,692 --> 01:50:14,532
Speaker 31: group of women, but not necessarily. You don't have to

2331
01:50:14,893 --> 01:50:16,333
Speaker 31: be a woman to join.

2332
01:50:17,452 --> 01:50:23,053
Speaker 2: We're about based. We're about so you're based, Cherlie, just gisine.

2333
01:50:23,452 --> 01:50:24,852
Speaker 2: I was going to say Tyler would join if you're

2334
01:50:24,853 --> 01:50:29,612
Speaker 2: a bit closer to Auckland, but continue, sorry, Gisbine.

2335
01:50:29,973 --> 01:50:32,852
Speaker 31: So we are about the seven of us, and most

2336
01:50:32,933 --> 01:50:34,772
Speaker 31: of the time there are fixed people who come along.

2337
01:50:36,093 --> 01:50:40,213
Speaker 31: We somebody in the group might choose a book. We

2338
01:50:40,372 --> 01:50:45,132
Speaker 31: then read that and often it's reading a page. Person

2339
01:50:45,173 --> 01:50:48,053
Speaker 31: around the table reads a paragraph or so, and then

2340
01:50:48,133 --> 01:50:54,013
Speaker 31: we discuss or have a laugh or whatever. Our beverage

2341
01:50:54,133 --> 01:50:56,093
Speaker 31: is a cup of tea or coffee. It's we have

2342
01:50:56,253 --> 01:50:59,213
Speaker 31: a it's a morning group. And it's not that we

2343
01:50:59,372 --> 01:51:02,772
Speaker 31: don't drink that. People enjoy wine, but not at the

2344
01:51:02,772 --> 01:51:06,852
Speaker 31: book group. And yes, it's a diverse group of women

2345
01:51:06,933 --> 01:51:07,932
Speaker 31: too have become friends.

2346
01:51:08,372 --> 01:51:10,092
Speaker 2: So the book club never ends up at the nightclub.

2347
01:51:11,772 --> 01:51:14,012
Speaker 31: No it doesn't.

2348
01:51:14,053 --> 01:51:20,133
Speaker 2: But what what was the last book that you guys read, Chiley.

2349
01:51:21,253 --> 01:51:26,532
Speaker 31: Well, we're actually reading an independent Catholic magazine called The Two.

2350
01:51:26,612 --> 01:51:30,012
Speaker 16: More Truth, okay, and we read we read the stories

2351
01:51:30,053 --> 01:51:30,372
Speaker 16: in there.

2352
01:51:30,692 --> 01:51:35,333
Speaker 31: In our group, we have five Catholic girls, one Presbyterian,

2353
01:51:36,013 --> 01:51:39,372
Speaker 31: one Anglican. We're very happy to have anybody from any

2354
01:51:39,412 --> 01:51:42,612
Speaker 31: faith or no faith. It's just those people are happy

2355
01:51:42,692 --> 01:51:44,572
Speaker 31: to be a part of the group and we have

2356
01:51:44,652 --> 01:51:45,213
Speaker 31: a lot of fun.

2357
01:51:45,853 --> 01:51:47,933
Speaker 2: Jurelie, this is a hard question to ask, but what

2358
01:51:48,133 --> 01:51:49,572
Speaker 2: is the best book you've ever read?

2359
01:51:52,093 --> 01:51:53,052
Speaker 31: The best book?

2360
01:51:53,933 --> 01:51:54,452
Speaker 3: Good question?

2361
01:51:54,812 --> 01:51:59,253
Speaker 31: Would I would say a book written by Joy Cowley,

2362
01:51:59,612 --> 01:52:02,532
Speaker 31: who was a well known New Zealand author author of

2363
01:52:02,812 --> 01:52:07,933
Speaker 31: children's books as well. I can't I can't remember the

2364
01:52:08,412 --> 01:52:10,692
Speaker 31: title off the top of my head, but yes, her

2365
01:52:10,772 --> 01:52:11,852
Speaker 31: writings are very good.

2366
01:52:12,213 --> 01:52:13,973
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, thank you so much for you

2367
01:52:14,053 --> 01:52:16,133
Speaker 2: called Shirley, and good luck with those book clubs.

2368
01:52:16,372 --> 01:52:18,532
Speaker 3: Sounds like a great book club down in Gizzy, I

2369
01:52:18,572 --> 01:52:20,372
Speaker 3: think we've got time for a near Tello in it.

2370
01:52:21,973 --> 01:52:23,972
Speaker 18: Hello, how are your radio down?

2371
01:52:25,372 --> 01:52:25,572
Speaker 7: Yep?

2372
01:52:25,612 --> 01:52:26,333
Speaker 2: Am, I dear yep?

2373
01:52:28,452 --> 01:52:30,372
Speaker 18: Okay, Yeah, I'm in a book club and it's great,

2374
01:52:30,452 --> 01:52:33,173
Speaker 18: we've had it. We've probably started at about I don't know,

2375
01:52:33,372 --> 01:52:36,372
Speaker 18: ten years ago, and we use book club and a

2376
01:52:36,412 --> 01:52:39,293
Speaker 18: bag through the library. It's free of charge. There's only

2377
01:52:39,412 --> 01:52:41,013
Speaker 18: eight in our group because we don't want to go

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Speaker 18: too big things that we can zach away for weekends

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Speaker 18: in the wirapa or something and get accommodation and have

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Speaker 18: a bit of a layer up. But generally we meet

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Speaker 18: on the first Wednesday of the month, and of course

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Speaker 18: that's the school night, so we'll have one glass of wine,

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Speaker 18: sometimes two, and then it's normally a beautiful sort of

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Speaker 18: cake of course life and.

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Speaker 5: And then off we go.

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Speaker 18: But when you get book club in a bag, there's

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Speaker 18: a list of questions and we you know, obviously answered

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Speaker 18: I and discussed those and then that may lead to

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Speaker 18: another discussion.

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Speaker 5: Somewhere along the line or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: The one this week is called Ghost in the Throat,

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Speaker 3: Ghost in the Throat Jesus, Ghost.

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Speaker 18: In the Throat, And that's a really interesting title because

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Speaker 18: it comes backwards and forwards. It's an Irish book and

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Speaker 18: it's about a poem that was written in the seventeenth

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Speaker 18: century that this woman in the twenty first century reads

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Speaker 18: and asides she's in authorcles and does poetry but got

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Speaker 18: into a bit of writing. And yeah, that's a star

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Speaker 18: as I've got the moment. It starts off in the

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Speaker 18: blurb that the woman in the seventeenth century wrote a

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Speaker 18: poem and she was married but had her husband killed

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Speaker 18: and she was deeply upset and drinker's blood.

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Speaker 3: Oh that goes on fascinating.

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Speaker 2: So this is why Dorian, I can't. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: struggle to pronounce the name Dorian Irish.

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Speaker 7: It's an Irish name, ye right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah right? And and what what about the when when

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Speaker 2: you have a book club, is everyone reading the book

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Speaker 2: or as are some people talk are turning up and

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Speaker 2: faking it.

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Speaker 5: Both?

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Annette.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, love that right, got to play some messages. But

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Speaker 3: when we come back a few more of your texts.

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Speaker 1: It is seven to four, the big stories, the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the big trends and everything in between. Matt Heath and

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01:54:38,933 --> 01:54:41,052
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 2: News talks it b news talks it be. It is

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Speaker 2: five to four. So what's happening here, Tyler? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Now, let me get my w ife. You said you

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Speaker 3: were going to read the text but you haven't got

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Speaker 3: any no, no, no, let's get straight into our caller

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Speaker 3: of the week's.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much for listening to the show,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for your calls and text this week. We

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Speaker 2: love them so much. We always run a caller of

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Speaker 2: the week, and this week's caller of the week was

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Speaker 2: Michael on the topic of the damaged short form video.

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Speaker 2: Due to the mind and the mood, you have to go.

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Speaker 22: Through periods where you're choosing boredom over infinite entertainment, and

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Speaker 22: it's a pretty hard mental struggle with yourself. But you do,

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Speaker 22: like you do have your general feeling sort of come

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Speaker 22: back to that base level. It's actually really good. Like

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Speaker 22: if you do sort of walks in the bush and

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Speaker 22: you don't have your phone on you at all, you can,

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Speaker 22: like seriously feel so clear and like all the clog

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Speaker 22: has been washed out.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have the resilience or the

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Speaker 2: presence of mind actually attempt to get off there. People

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Speaker 2: your age, the good on your Michael, there you go, Michael,

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Speaker 2: good on your mate, finding a good part, fighting the

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Speaker 2: good fight, getting off your devices and getting off the

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Speaker 2: short term form videos. Tyler, Yes, just before we end

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Speaker 2: the show, Why am I playing this song?

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Speaker 3: A bit of When You Come By Crowded House, A

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Speaker 3: fantastic song and what a tune.

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Speaker 7: To go out with.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's too much of a cowed to say why

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Speaker 2: I'm playing there, anybody? Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: For more from News Talk st B, listen live on

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Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever

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