1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Trump's speech, scheduled for two pm our time, turned out 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: to contain no announcements at all. Disappointingly, we got no 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: firm end date, no clue about what the buildup of 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: troops in the region is for, no plan to reopen 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: the Strait of Juma. Is just the usual bluster. 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: I can say tonight that we are on track to 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly. We're 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: going to hit them extremely hard over the next two 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: the Stone ages. 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Where they belong. 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Doug Hay is a former communications director for the Republican Party. Doug, 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: It's great to be with you. Thank you now. 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Without an actional announcement, this is just pr for American voters, 16 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: isn't it. 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's something I'm still not sure. And the question 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 3: I ask is why give this speech tonight? And I 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: say that because he had the opportunity a few weeks 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: back to address the nation and to answer a lot 21 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: of the questions that voters had on that that was 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: the State of the Union, the biggest speech any president 23 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: gives any year, and he didn't do so. And in 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: tonight's speech, there was no news, so without telling people 25 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: that we've actually won this thing, we were told we're 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: getting close. Maybe there's an an escalation coming. Gas prices 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: might come down soon, might not. It's not clear to 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: me why they made the decision to make this speech 29 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: and to make it tonight. 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Well, I just assumed that the clue lay in the 31 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: fact that he went through all the various wars that 32 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: he was comparing this war to in the durations in 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: a bit to show that this was a really quick 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: war actually by contrast. And is that not a sign 35 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: that the narrative, the prevailing narrative that he's losing and 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: this is dragging is getting to him, and he's trying 37 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: to go over the top of the legacy media and 38 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: talk directly to the base. 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: Well, more than anything, the issue of gas prices is 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: what is spooking this White House because it's something that 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: they're hearing from Republican members of Congress almost every day. 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: And then you have the issue with his base specifically 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: about foreign intervention. And I can tell you I was 44 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: in Israel in June last summer when the bombing started, 45 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: and a lot of that very hardcore magabase not the 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: people who've voted for Trump necessarily, but the people who 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: voted for Trump and wear a red hat out in public. 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: A lot of them didn't really like that. So they 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: don't like this. They didn't necessarily like Venezuela. They may 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: have concerns about Cuba because these are the things that 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: Donald Trump ran on not doing. 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: So if you listen to his language about really smashing iron, 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: about it going for two to three weeks, threatening various targets, 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: what do you read into that? Is he about to 55 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: escalate things? 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: He wants to draw this to a close, and so 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: clearly he feels that the best way potentially to do 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: that is by an escalation. And the interesting to me 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: is it's not cutting a deal. We've been told forever 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: the art of the deal. Donald Trump's the great deal maker. 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: It's another example of where he's really not tried to 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: do so. Unless the deal is you're going to get 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: everything you want, and very clearly Iran doesn't want to 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: do that. And so how this ends at this point, 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: I don't think we know. And again he didn't declare victory, 66 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: just that we're winning. 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: He's given himself something of an off ramp as well. 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: Hasn't he because he has said, we never wanted regime change. 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: So the regime has already changed in any case, because 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: the really bad radical guys are gone. So he can 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: almost if you want, like he is not bound now, 72 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: is he by the need to see a complete change 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: in who's running around? 74 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: Well, he's never been bound by that. But it's part of, 75 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: I think the challenge that he finds himself with that 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: really hardcore part of his base. So forget every Democratic 77 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: member of Congress or senator and even some of the Republicans, 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: it's those members who really were against any sort of 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: foreign intervention and we would hear the phrase forever wars 80 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: and you know, international adventurism, things like that. He's very 81 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: nervous that they're unhappy again. What happened with Iran and 82 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: Israel last summer was pretty quick, a lot faster than 83 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: this has been, and those same people didn't like that then. 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: Doug, thank you very much, really appreciate your analysis. Doug Hay, 85 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: former communications director for the Republican Party. For more from hither, 86 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Duke Lassy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 88 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: on iHeartRadio,