1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: All right, Barrisoper, Senior political correspondence. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: With us A Barry, Good afternoon, Heather, Right, So. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Has the mega strike dominated Parliament? 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: A lot of questions on not today? Not surprisingly they 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: it's reputedly the biggest strike since the late seventies. And 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: I remember at that time I was the industrial aroundsman 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: at TV and Z and the Federation of Labor were 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: calling for tools down on a number of occasions under 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: the Muldoon government and they were massive strikes. And this 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: is going to be a big one. They're talking more 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: than one hundred thousand public sector workers. The main unions 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: will be the Public Service Association, the Nurses Organization, Post 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: Primary Teachers NZI, one of the biggest union groups that 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: will be marching tomorrow around They say thirty six thousand 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: nurses who work for the ministry. Their nationwide strike will 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: see a complete withdrawal of labor. Now. It was with 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:04,559 Speaker 2: that in mind that the Greens Riccardo Menendez March asked 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: the Health Minister Simeon Brown about the safety of our 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: health system. 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Since coming into office, this government has edited around two 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: thousand more nurses to the public health system compared to 22 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three alongside hundreds of additional doctors fanced back 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: via a record additional sixteen twenty six to eight billion 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: dollars investment in health over three budgets, including initiatives focused 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: on improving workplace safety and reducing weight lists for patients. 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: Notes this, I'm telling us across the country that they're 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: not experiencing safe working conditions as a result of current understaffing. 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: So the last government allowed weightless to balloon whilst they 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: fiddled with a bureaucracy. We're focused on patients for the 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: focused on bureaucracy. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: Well, interestingly, the bureaucracy he was talking about then was 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: and it was true that during the COVID lockdown, if 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: you remember, they restructured their health workforce and I couldn't 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: understand it the time. What a time to peck to 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: do it. But so that sort of came bounced back 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: a bit on Benendez March. But yeah, it's a big strike. 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: The government is saying it's political. They claiming that unions 38 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: are not taking it seriously, discussing Palestine at one meeting 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: that was set up, and they say that it is political. Well, 40 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 2: who's to know, I mean. 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh, Barry, come on, it's clearly political. 42 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, example, when you have. 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Got unions ordinating their strike action to one day, and 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: when you have got the association the senior doctors who 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: refuse to settle in final arbitration but rather go on strike, 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 1: it's clearly political, don't you think. 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I guess the members though, have to agree, 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: don't they. And whether that's politics, who knows? Certainly from 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: the Union's point of view. 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: No, totally fair point. Listen, is Jerry going to blow 51 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: a valve over what happened on the Full Court? 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't quite understand why the Speaker got so 53 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: upset about it, because, I mean, it was a silly 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: thing to do, no doubt about it, burning the bill 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: at the hilarious bill and you know, burning it in 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: a rubbish spin. It looked pretty amateurs. 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: Such a lame protest was it was done. 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: It was performative politics at its best. And Jerry said 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: that he was considering with it to take action over 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: the incident at Parliament. But look, I think it's in 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: the debating chamber that Jerry's got to worry more about it. 62 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: I mean outside, I mean, you see you know landrovers 63 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: driving up the steps of Parliament metal the tractor going 64 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: up at one other stage. You know, things have gone 65 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: on out the fore court before, much certainly much worse 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: than what the market up to. 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: What's your take on what gold He's going to do 68 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: with the BSA. 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Well, it's fascinating because you know the BSA talk about overreach. 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you know they they replied to one complaint 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: about Sean Plunket on the platform saying mumbo jumbo that 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: t kanga was and you know it was minor, but 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: they took it so seriously, and then they were bringing 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: them so many other aspects of broadcasting under their guidance. 75 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: It seems, well, the entire Internet is mary well. 76 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: You know, I mean it's incredible. Really, I talk about overreach. 77 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: If you listened to the Broadcasting Minister Paul Goldsmith on 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: with Hosking this morning, you would have heard him postulating 79 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: about getting rid of the BSA all together. 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 4: There's two basic options. You could try and extend the 81 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 4: reach of the BSA to covering all things that look similar, 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: or you could just get rid of it entirely and 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 4: say well that the world's moved on. And that is 84 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: one of the options. And so we're working our way 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: through the at the moment, and we're giving some careful 86 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: thought to it. There was an act that was set 87 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: up in nineteen eighty nine before a whole lot of 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: things have happened and nobody's got round to dealing with it, 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: and we are going to deal with it. 90 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: See fascinating that because that's quite definite, and the BSA 91 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: could just have written its own death warrant when you consider, 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: you know, what they've done as a result of one 93 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: silly little complaint. I've really opened themselves up to all 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: sorts of things. And now we'll get me excited. 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 4: Barry. 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: That's right. They'll be listening to this and there'll be 97 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: a complaint filed to them. 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: Oh well, one can only hope. 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: One can only hope they've never been they've never had 100 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: a complaint about me. 101 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: Actually, there'll be. 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: They'll be like, who is this person? Though I didn't 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: even know she existed? Barry, Thank you very much, Barry 104 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: so for senior political correspondent. 105 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 3: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 107 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio.