1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: And finally, thirteen year old Faizan Zaki is this year's 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Champion of the Script selling b in the US. Here 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: is how it went. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Your word is a clar cy small, A clary small 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: E C L A I R C I S S 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: E M E and T if its. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: Not that is correct? How cute knew he got there? Yeah, 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: it means a clearing up of something obscure, enlightenment. 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 3: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: for New Zealand business. Sorry, what was the word that 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: he said? Then? 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Clarionism? 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: Not very good? Never mind, I don't know. 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not even going to try. I don't even care. 15 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Murray Old's Australian correspondent with US muz, Hello. 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: Don't even ask me, mate. That a very good afternoon 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: and no idea at all that thirteen. 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Year old can have that one? Hey erin, did Aaron 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: convince you? 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: Well? It's early days yet she's still got some time 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: to spend in the witness box and look to be fair. 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: All along she's come across as a woman who's who 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: was not without issues, who was not without you know, 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: concerns for everybody who is aware of this trial it 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: seems like half the world is That meant she's got 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: what appears to be significant, significant personal issues, and look, 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: she shared some of those in the witness box. You know, 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: she has has told us that, you know, she invited 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: her I suppose estranged in laws is probably the correct phrase, 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: but because she had you know, she and her husband 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: were not living together. But having said that, like many 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: couples who split, they still you know, they get on 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: well with the ex in laws, and that this was 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: the case in Thearon Patters's family. And that's what she 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: had the lunch for. She wanted, she said, to share 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: a cancer diagnosis with them. She wanted to get back 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: a bit closer to her in laws. That's why she 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: invited them around for that lunch. That fatal lunch. I mean, 39 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: three people died and the fourth survived only just and 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: we've heard that, you know, month before there's deadly lunch. 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: She was on doctor Google looking up cancer diagnoses, and 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: she sent messages to a group chat room complaining of 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 3: parents in law and did not want to be involved 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: in any attempt that she might make to get back 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: with their son. She told the courts she now regrets 46 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: sending those messages. She was asked today by her defense counsel, 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: have you ever had cancer? 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 2: No? 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: I haven't. I mean, so there were all these issues 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: coming through. Did you kill your in laws and one 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: other woman with poisonous lunch death cap mushrooms? You'd forage 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: four in the forest? 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: No? 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: I never did that. So this is absolutely fascinating stuff. 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: You know, people are lining up of about five six in 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: the morning to try and get limited seats in the courthouse. 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Really, did you say half past five in the morning. 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: And it's freezing. It's like Central Victorious is. 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: Your court and must is your court like ours? 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: Kack Off at ten, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's well, that's 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: my understanding down there. Yeah o'clock. 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Okay, So it really is quite exciting, isn't it. 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: Now? 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Elbows told the US you guys are going to sign 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: on your own own defense SPED and rather than have 67 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: it I suppose given to you by the US. Is 68 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: there right? 69 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 3: Well? Yes, And yet and in the last half hour 70 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: forty five minutes or so, there's been perhaps I don't 71 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: know how you'd phrased this, but perhaps he's prepared to, 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: you know, couldceed some ground. He's apparently in a fortnite 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: he's going to be at a G seven meeting in Canada, 74 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: and apparently there's a bilateral arrange with Donald Trump that 75 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: will be interesting. If Albanezi has said, listen, but put 76 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: that in your pipe and smoke it. Son, I'm not 77 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: going to be dictated to you by your people. I mean, 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: the fact of the matter is Australia can't afford to 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: go to three and a half percent. That the impossibly 80 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: good looking Defense Secretary of the United States has said, 81 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: Australia command, you have to have to pay you one 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: and Australia at two point three percent. We're straining at 83 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: the edges. Don't forget we're on the hook to the 84 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: United States for nearly four hundred billion dollars way out 85 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: of the never never to get submarines we may or 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: may not ever receive that aren't built yet, no guarantees 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: the United States will even sell them. And so there's 88 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: a good degree of reflection here. I mean, this was 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: a deal. It was signed off on by the Morrison government. 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: Remember all that who are yes, we'll buy French submarines. 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: I know we're not going to scrap the French deal 92 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: and buy American and labor went along with this, So 93 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: it's a long term joint commitment by both sides of politics. 94 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 3: But is it worth the money? And with the United 95 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: States now banging the drums saying listen, you've got to 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: come along, you've got to spend more. I mean, if 97 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: you look at the success this week of the Ukrainian 98 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: drone strikes right across the Soviet Union, would Australia be 99 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 3: better off buying money or investing money in drone manufacturing, 100 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: missile manufacturer? Who knows? All we do know over here 101 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: is that the defense spend for the last thirty or 102 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: forty years has been a giant black hole with bugger 103 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: order show for it. Yeah, please, has been been catastrophic. 104 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: Maz, thank you appreciate it. Murray Olds, Australia correspondent. 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 3: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 106 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 3: News Talks. 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