1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcast now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,653 --> 00:00:18,572 Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matin Tyler Full 4 00:00:18,613 --> 00:00:21,333 Speaker 2: Show Podcast number three ten for the eighteenth of March. 5 00:00:21,372 --> 00:00:26,813 Speaker 2: It's a Wednesday. We went deep into divorce, we went 6 00:00:26,853 --> 00:00:30,252 Speaker 2: into running, we went into crypto. It was a very 7 00:00:30,293 --> 00:00:33,693 Speaker 2: well rounded show. Some fantastic callers. I think you'll enjoy it, 8 00:00:33,773 --> 00:00:36,133 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, but I could be wrong. 9 00:00:36,293 --> 00:00:39,492 Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic show. So you make sure you have a 10 00:00:39,533 --> 00:00:42,013 Speaker 3: listen and down load, subscribe and give us a review. 11 00:00:42,013 --> 00:00:43,492 Speaker 2: Would you you seem busy? Will you go? 12 00:00:43,573 --> 00:00:43,613 Speaker 4: So? 13 00:00:43,693 --> 00:00:44,693 Speaker 2: Good taste gevy from us? 14 00:00:44,693 --> 00:00:45,653 Speaker 3: All right then, I love you. 15 00:00:46,173 --> 00:00:50,373 Speaker 1: Love big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and 16 00:00:50,693 --> 00:00:54,493 Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon 17 00:00:54,613 --> 00:00:56,813 Speaker 1: squid s Gooder News Talk, said B. 18 00:00:57,773 --> 00:01:00,972 Speaker 3: A very good afternoon, gier, welcome into Wednesday show. Hope 19 00:01:01,013 --> 00:01:02,813 Speaker 3: you having a great day and thanks for giving us 20 00:01:02,813 --> 00:01:03,213 Speaker 3: a listen. 21 00:01:03,253 --> 00:01:05,973 Speaker 2: Get amettes, getay everyone Wait one hundred and eighty ten 22 00:01:06,013 --> 00:01:08,652 Speaker 2: eighties the number nineteen ninety two if you want to. 23 00:01:08,973 --> 00:01:13,572 Speaker 2: Last night I watched this documentary and carsonization, right, Okay, Well, 24 00:01:13,893 --> 00:01:16,893 Speaker 2: well it's the theory that given enough time, everything involves 25 00:01:16,932 --> 00:01:20,212 Speaker 2: into a crab, that we're all slowly evolving into crabs. 26 00:01:20,253 --> 00:01:24,012 Speaker 2: Evolution just keeps making crabs. Okay, right, So and so 27 00:01:24,093 --> 00:01:27,212 Speaker 2: many things that are that you look like crabs aren't crabs, 28 00:01:27,253 --> 00:01:29,533 Speaker 2: like king crabs and not crabs. Bolsa and crabs aren't crabs. 29 00:01:29,572 --> 00:01:33,573 Speaker 2: Coconut crabs aren't crabs. They're just things that other animals 30 00:01:33,572 --> 00:01:37,133 Speaker 2: that evolve to become crab like so flatt and wide body, 31 00:01:37,173 --> 00:01:41,653 Speaker 2: hard shell, legs tucked underneath, sideways, walking and stuff. So 32 00:01:42,693 --> 00:01:46,933 Speaker 2: it just tracks over history, evolution tends towards crabs. So 33 00:01:46,932 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 2: given enough time, you'll be a crab. You'll be evolving 34 00:01:50,013 --> 00:01:52,453 Speaker 2: into crab. I told this. I got into beards with 35 00:01:52,493 --> 00:01:54,733 Speaker 2: my lovely partner Tracy last night and I told her 36 00:01:54,733 --> 00:01:56,693 Speaker 2: about this, and she goes, I don't need this, mat, 37 00:01:57,653 --> 00:01:59,533 Speaker 2: I've had a busy day, there's a lot going on. 38 00:01:59,613 --> 00:02:01,053 Speaker 2: I don't need you telling me that I'm going to 39 00:02:01,053 --> 00:02:01,773 Speaker 2: turn into a crab. 40 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:03,853 Speaker 3: That's a secret to any good relationship. 41 00:02:03,893 --> 00:02:06,013 Speaker 2: Do I want to hear that we're evolving into crabs? 42 00:02:06,013 --> 00:02:08,613 Speaker 2: That's the absolute last thing I need to hear at 43 00:02:08,613 --> 00:02:10,493 Speaker 2: this after a long busy day. 44 00:02:10,493 --> 00:02:13,253 Speaker 3: Did she not find it fascinating that eventually, Tracy, you 45 00:02:13,293 --> 00:02:15,413 Speaker 3: will be a crab too. We're all going to be crabs. 46 00:02:15,413 --> 00:02:19,013 Speaker 2: Well, as I pointed out to her, Terracy's listening, she 47 00:02:19,053 --> 00:02:24,773 Speaker 2: just takes shut up of out crabs, dog, She's not 48 00:02:24,813 --> 00:02:27,853 Speaker 2: going to turn into a crab. Just all things being equal, 49 00:02:28,053 --> 00:02:31,373 Speaker 2: if we were just around walking around on the planet. 50 00:02:31,453 --> 00:02:33,253 Speaker 2: And of course humans are a bit different now because 51 00:02:33,252 --> 00:02:37,293 Speaker 2: we've got technology and we've sort of halted halted evolution. Look, 52 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:39,333 Speaker 2: I'm still alive and I have to wear glasses. Yeah, 53 00:02:39,373 --> 00:02:41,493 Speaker 2: I should have died out. I shouldn't have been allowed 54 00:02:41,493 --> 00:02:44,173 Speaker 2: to breathe. But anyway, give us long enough, all things 55 00:02:44,173 --> 00:02:47,733 Speaker 2: being equal, and we would eventually, given enough time, become crabs. 56 00:02:47,773 --> 00:02:49,893 Speaker 3: You are waving those hands around like claws all of 57 00:02:49,893 --> 00:02:51,893 Speaker 3: a sudden, so I think it's already happening to you, mate. 58 00:02:51,893 --> 00:02:53,653 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I did come and walk in the 59 00:02:53,733 --> 00:02:55,653 Speaker 2: door sideways before at the start of the show. 60 00:02:55,693 --> 00:02:58,173 Speaker 3: I did notice that. Yeah, so you're leading the charge 61 00:02:58,173 --> 00:03:00,093 Speaker 3: on that. So anyway, where did you find that doco? 62 00:03:00,173 --> 00:03:02,013 Speaker 3: By the where did you find that? 63 00:03:02,173 --> 00:03:02,292 Speaker 5: Was that? 64 00:03:02,773 --> 00:03:07,333 Speaker 2: I don't know, Substack all right somewhere, so we're. 65 00:03:07,173 --> 00:03:09,453 Speaker 3: All becoming crabs. Look it up and you'll find it 66 00:03:09,453 --> 00:03:10,293 Speaker 3: sound a good watch. 67 00:03:10,293 --> 00:03:11,653 Speaker 2: That's what I do when I get home from work. 68 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:16,692 Speaker 2: I just read absolute punishing rubbish and then then share 69 00:03:16,733 --> 00:03:18,693 Speaker 2: it with Tracy Against So well, yeah, that's. 70 00:03:18,493 --> 00:03:21,933 Speaker 3: What we love. Right on to today's show. After three o'clock. 71 00:03:21,933 --> 00:03:23,972 Speaker 3: There's a story in the Washington Post written by a 72 00:03:24,013 --> 00:03:27,293 Speaker 3: Kiwi actually Anna Firefield. So she took up running in 73 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:31,613 Speaker 3: her late forties, and despite not being athletic or consistent 74 00:03:31,693 --> 00:03:34,453 Speaker 3: in the past, she gradually built up to completing her 75 00:03:34,532 --> 00:03:38,933 Speaker 3: first ultra marathon just before her fiftieth birthday. So she 76 00:03:38,973 --> 00:03:42,813 Speaker 3: said she started with small run walk type routines along 77 00:03:42,813 --> 00:03:46,533 Speaker 3: the way, joined a running group and getting out almost 78 00:03:46,653 --> 00:03:51,573 Speaker 3: every day. Interesting Interestingly, she said the biggest transformation wasn't physical, 79 00:03:51,613 --> 00:03:55,333 Speaker 3: it was mental, more confidence, resilience, and new appreciation for 80 00:03:55,373 --> 00:03:58,533 Speaker 3: what her body could do, Proving she says it's never 81 00:03:58,573 --> 00:04:01,453 Speaker 3: too late to become a runner. Tucky Bart, tukyr Bart. 82 00:04:01,453 --> 00:04:02,533 Speaker 3: That's big for you, isn't. 83 00:04:02,333 --> 00:04:04,853 Speaker 2: It, tuckyr Bart. That's all you need to know if 84 00:04:04,893 --> 00:04:08,973 Speaker 2: you're you know, in your thirties, forties, fifties, sixties to run. 85 00:04:09,613 --> 00:04:12,333 Speaker 2: Just start tucking your butt right from the start because 86 00:04:12,333 --> 00:04:15,173 Speaker 2: it's a bit unnatural, but that means that your legs 87 00:04:15,213 --> 00:04:18,653 Speaker 2: will line up, your knees won't be hanging your foot 88 00:04:18,653 --> 00:04:21,093 Speaker 2: won't be hanging out the front, putting under pressure on 89 00:04:21,133 --> 00:04:21,613 Speaker 2: your knees. 90 00:04:22,173 --> 00:04:25,413 Speaker 3: The other thing is look up, okay, lock up while 91 00:04:25,413 --> 00:04:26,133 Speaker 3: you're talking about it. 92 00:04:26,093 --> 00:04:29,333 Speaker 2: And don't be afraid to use your arms because that'll 93 00:04:29,373 --> 00:04:32,053 Speaker 2: help move your hips. That's what i'd say as a 94 00:04:32,053 --> 00:04:35,213 Speaker 2: person that runs every day. Yep, found out eight k 95 00:04:35,293 --> 00:04:35,653 Speaker 2: this morning. 96 00:04:35,693 --> 00:04:37,573 Speaker 3: Actually, good work. You are a big runner. But the 97 00:04:37,653 --> 00:04:39,173 Speaker 3: question you're going to put to you after three o'clock 98 00:04:39,253 --> 00:04:41,933 Speaker 3: if you had a friend starting from scratch in terms 99 00:04:41,973 --> 00:04:44,573 Speaker 3: of running, what advice would you give them? Clearly one, 100 00:04:44,613 --> 00:04:47,173 Speaker 3: tuck your buttn't out straight away. Looking forward to your 101 00:04:47,653 --> 00:04:50,413 Speaker 3: stories on that after three o'clock. After two o'clock story 102 00:04:50,453 --> 00:04:52,293 Speaker 3: in the Herald about an investigation into the murder of 103 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:55,133 Speaker 3: an Auckland courier driver. So the story reports that more 104 00:04:55,173 --> 00:04:59,333 Speaker 3: than six million bucks and cryptocurrency was transferred through accounts 105 00:04:59,373 --> 00:05:01,733 Speaker 3: linked to a thirty five year old man now charged 106 00:05:01,813 --> 00:05:05,453 Speaker 3: over the twenty twenty four shooting of tour Paloto VI. 107 00:05:06,133 --> 00:05:09,853 Speaker 3: Highlighting a suspective connection between the killing and organized criminal activity. 108 00:05:10,253 --> 00:05:14,373 Speaker 3: But got to say, first time that I've seen cryptocurrency 109 00:05:14,413 --> 00:05:17,213 Speaker 3: in a story for a long time. Ever since bitcoin 110 00:05:17,813 --> 00:05:21,093 Speaker 3: dropped off a cliff last October, very rarely would you 111 00:05:21,133 --> 00:05:23,173 Speaker 3: see it pop up in headlines. It was everywhere for 112 00:05:23,213 --> 00:05:26,733 Speaker 3: a little while there while bitcoin was skyrocketing, and clearly 113 00:05:26,733 --> 00:05:29,173 Speaker 3: it is still handy for criminals and black market dealings. 114 00:05:29,173 --> 00:05:31,733 Speaker 3: But is it still big in the world of investments? 115 00:05:31,853 --> 00:05:35,053 Speaker 2: Yeah? What is happening with crypto? I'm just looking at 116 00:05:35,093 --> 00:05:38,493 Speaker 2: my crypto. My crypto is down. Oh my god, how 117 00:05:38,573 --> 00:05:40,453 Speaker 2: much money have I lost? I've lost quite a lot 118 00:05:40,453 --> 00:05:41,613 Speaker 2: of money there. That's not fun. 119 00:05:41,653 --> 00:05:43,653 Speaker 3: Maybe that's why you'll be looking's healthy. 120 00:05:43,813 --> 00:05:46,253 Speaker 2: That's why crypto bros aren't coming up to you in 121 00:05:46,253 --> 00:05:49,533 Speaker 2: the pub and going on about the ets and crypto 122 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:52,773 Speaker 2: and blah and how you're missing out and how you 123 00:05:52,813 --> 00:05:55,413 Speaker 2: know inflation is robbing you and such. They're pretty silent 124 00:05:55,453 --> 00:05:59,653 Speaker 2: at the moment because you know the fomo's gone. Does 125 00:05:59,653 --> 00:06:01,013 Speaker 2: that just means it's a good time to get into 126 00:06:01,013 --> 00:06:04,293 Speaker 2: crypto now? It's so, it's it's what's just seventy four 127 00:06:05,093 --> 00:06:08,053 Speaker 2: seventy four? Oh wow, it's changing very fast seventy four 128 00:06:08,093 --> 00:06:11,093 Speaker 2: oh two five point six still dropping. 129 00:06:11,213 --> 00:06:13,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it's a good question. You know, some 130 00:06:13,693 --> 00:06:17,133 Speaker 3: people would argue that cryptocurrency was going okay for a 131 00:06:17,173 --> 00:06:19,533 Speaker 3: bit there, but it was always something a bit offee 132 00:06:19,573 --> 00:06:22,253 Speaker 3: about it and it's dead. Is that really true? Or 133 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:23,893 Speaker 3: is this the time to get in and by. 134 00:06:23,893 --> 00:06:26,173 Speaker 2: Hang on a minute. My cryptos up five point four 135 00:06:26,213 --> 00:06:28,133 Speaker 2: to three in the last week, well done, So maybe 136 00:06:28,133 --> 00:06:28,973 Speaker 2: it's on the way back up. 137 00:06:29,093 --> 00:06:32,293 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe we're seeing a resurgions already. But if you're 138 00:06:32,333 --> 00:06:35,693 Speaker 3: still into cryptocurrency, keen to hear from you after two 139 00:06:35,693 --> 00:06:38,013 Speaker 3: o'clock because right now we do want to have it 140 00:06:38,053 --> 00:06:40,773 Speaker 3: about our chat about divorce and separation. It can be 141 00:06:40,973 --> 00:06:44,453 Speaker 3: clearly a very traumatic experience in someone's life if they 142 00:06:44,453 --> 00:06:46,693 Speaker 3: have to go through it, especially when children are involved. 143 00:06:46,693 --> 00:06:50,493 Speaker 3: The intensity of that stress to become clear when public 144 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:54,013 Speaker 3: figures like Labour leader Chris Hipkins spoke out about the 145 00:06:54,093 --> 00:06:57,733 Speaker 3: personal allegations he's facing from his ex wife currently, but 146 00:06:57,813 --> 00:07:01,253 Speaker 3: we don't want to focus on his story. Every breakup 147 00:07:01,293 --> 00:07:04,973 Speaker 3: clearly brings its own challenges, and social media can magnify 148 00:07:05,053 --> 00:07:07,933 Speaker 3: those tensions and make private matters public. So we want 149 00:07:07,933 --> 00:07:09,973 Speaker 3: to hear from you, if you have gone through a 150 00:07:10,053 --> 00:07:12,653 Speaker 3: divorce or a breakout, what is the rule book the 151 00:07:12,693 --> 00:07:15,173 Speaker 3: playbook to try and get through it as easy as possible. 152 00:07:15,293 --> 00:07:19,613 Speaker 2: Yeah, I tuned into that press conference live yesterday afternoon, 153 00:07:20,053 --> 00:07:22,773 Speaker 2: and I felt very sorry for the man. Whatever you 154 00:07:22,813 --> 00:07:25,973 Speaker 2: think of his politics, what do you think? Whatever you 155 00:07:25,973 --> 00:07:29,053 Speaker 2: think of the thirty billion dollars of non COVID borrowing, 156 00:07:29,573 --> 00:07:31,373 Speaker 2: and how long our kids and any of their kids 157 00:07:31,413 --> 00:07:33,053 Speaker 2: and their kids will have to spend and how many 158 00:07:33,133 --> 00:07:34,893 Speaker 2: hours they'll have to spend working paying that off, what 159 00:07:34,893 --> 00:07:36,893 Speaker 2: do you think about that? He is first and foremost 160 00:07:36,893 --> 00:07:41,213 Speaker 2: a human, and so is his ex, and so is kids. 161 00:07:41,893 --> 00:07:45,093 Speaker 2: And it was the mention of his kids, as it 162 00:07:45,093 --> 00:07:49,293 Speaker 2: always is, that choked the mart right, this kind of 163 00:07:49,333 --> 00:07:52,893 Speaker 2: public heartache, it's painful to watch. You'd have to be 164 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:57,173 Speaker 2: pretty a pretty cold, cold person not to feel something 165 00:07:57,213 --> 00:07:59,293 Speaker 2: watching that. I would thought, I think so, Yeah, But 166 00:07:59,293 --> 00:08:01,373 Speaker 2: obviously it doesn't just public figures who go through this. 167 00:08:01,533 --> 00:08:06,013 Speaker 2: About about fifteen thousand New Zealanders a year get divorced, 168 00:08:07,413 --> 00:08:09,773 Speaker 2: as I was saying before, did quick times that by ten, 169 00:08:10,013 --> 00:08:13,853 Speaker 2: so about one hundred and fifty thous decades, many many 170 00:08:13,853 --> 00:08:17,373 Speaker 2: more serious relationship involving kids, houses and complexities of the 171 00:08:17,453 --> 00:08:20,733 Speaker 2: heart end a year and can be just as just 172 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:24,133 Speaker 2: as dramatic. So let's talk about divorce. Have you been 173 00:08:24,173 --> 00:08:26,493 Speaker 2: through it? Are you going through it? Is there? Is 174 00:08:26,533 --> 00:08:28,853 Speaker 2: there a way through? Is there an optal map to 175 00:08:29,013 --> 00:08:31,573 Speaker 2: how best to behave in a divorce that does the 176 00:08:31,653 --> 00:08:33,612 Speaker 2: least damage to the kids, which is obviously the most 177 00:08:33,653 --> 00:08:37,132 Speaker 2: important thing. Are there things that you should do right 178 00:08:37,173 --> 00:08:39,173 Speaker 2: by your ex because you've got to do right by 179 00:08:39,173 --> 00:08:41,612 Speaker 2: your X as well, you do good and do right 180 00:08:41,612 --> 00:08:46,412 Speaker 2: by everyone's finances as well, I think, right. 181 00:08:46,372 --> 00:08:50,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's all about I mean, smoothing the 182 00:08:50,173 --> 00:08:53,612 Speaker 3: waters is perhaps not the right phrase there, but you 183 00:08:53,813 --> 00:08:56,612 Speaker 3: want everybody to come out of that situation as best 184 00:08:56,612 --> 00:09:00,933 Speaker 3: as possible, particularly the kids. I mean, ideally you want 185 00:09:00,933 --> 00:09:03,492 Speaker 3: to shield the kids as much as possible, but sometimes 186 00:09:03,492 --> 00:09:04,773 Speaker 3: that is easier said than done. 187 00:09:04,933 --> 00:09:05,173 Speaker 1: Yeah. 188 00:09:05,372 --> 00:09:09,093 Speaker 2: Often the biggest regrets people have is when they look 189 00:09:09,173 --> 00:09:11,412 Speaker 2: back on their divorce and how they dealt what it is, 190 00:09:12,453 --> 00:09:15,533 Speaker 2: the stuff involving the kids in the situation, you know, 191 00:09:16,813 --> 00:09:18,973 Speaker 2: and a lot of people just generally go through divorce 192 00:09:18,973 --> 00:09:20,732 Speaker 2: and look back and go, I wish I had handled 193 00:09:20,732 --> 00:09:24,453 Speaker 2: that so so differently. So yeah, with such a high 194 00:09:24,453 --> 00:09:26,813 Speaker 2: profile divorce drum in the news, we want to talk 195 00:09:26,813 --> 00:09:29,373 Speaker 2: about the pathway that works. How do you, as a 196 00:09:29,413 --> 00:09:32,053 Speaker 2: man or a woman, negotiated divorce in such a way 197 00:09:32,093 --> 00:09:35,732 Speaker 2: to limit to the damage to yourself Because when emotions 198 00:09:35,773 --> 00:09:39,373 Speaker 2: are high, when the person left behind is hurt, things 199 00:09:39,492 --> 00:09:44,132 Speaker 2: can get crazy. You know. 200 00:09:45,132 --> 00:09:47,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is 201 00:09:47,892 --> 00:09:50,213 Speaker 3: that number to call? Give us your views? If you've 202 00:09:50,252 --> 00:09:53,013 Speaker 3: gone through a divorce or a breakup, what do you 203 00:09:53,012 --> 00:09:55,052 Speaker 3: wish you may have done differently? Have you got a 204 00:09:55,093 --> 00:09:57,333 Speaker 3: bit of a playbook on what is the best way 205 00:09:57,372 --> 00:10:00,012 Speaker 3: through in that situation? What advice can you give other 206 00:10:00,012 --> 00:10:02,173 Speaker 3: people who may be going through it or about to 207 00:10:02,213 --> 00:10:04,573 Speaker 3: go through it? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 208 00:10:04,573 --> 00:10:05,012 Speaker 3: that number. 209 00:10:05,093 --> 00:10:07,493 Speaker 2: I personally think one mistake people make is rubbing a 210 00:10:07,492 --> 00:10:10,493 Speaker 2: new relationship the face of an X. I think you 211 00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:12,333 Speaker 2: have to be very careful that you have to remember 212 00:10:12,372 --> 00:10:15,413 Speaker 2: that a parent loves their kids more than life itself 213 00:10:15,653 --> 00:10:19,213 Speaker 2: and may well define who they are. You know, you 214 00:10:19,293 --> 00:10:21,732 Speaker 2: might define yourself. A lot of people define themselves as 215 00:10:21,732 --> 00:10:24,213 Speaker 2: a mum and a dad of their kids. It's their 216 00:10:24,213 --> 00:10:27,453 Speaker 2: identity over nearly anything else in their life. So bringing 217 00:10:27,453 --> 00:10:31,333 Speaker 2: another person into the mix, another parent, has to be 218 00:10:31,413 --> 00:10:34,973 Speaker 2: dealt with worth the utmost care, you know. Yeah, but 219 00:10:35,093 --> 00:10:36,973 Speaker 2: what other things should people look out for a divorce? 220 00:10:37,293 --> 00:10:39,813 Speaker 2: I mean, is there a map people can follow or 221 00:10:39,892 --> 00:10:44,293 Speaker 2: is it just always going to be a shit show 222 00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:45,213 Speaker 2: of some magnitude. 223 00:10:45,333 --> 00:10:47,413 Speaker 3: It's definitely going to be that. I think there's lessons 224 00:10:47,413 --> 00:10:49,132 Speaker 3: that people can learn. But you're right, I mean a 225 00:10:49,132 --> 00:10:51,453 Speaker 3: lot of people would go through that saying this is 226 00:10:51,612 --> 00:10:54,093 Speaker 3: going to go as smooth as possible when I'm going 227 00:10:54,173 --> 00:10:56,093 Speaker 3: to do everything I can to make it right and 228 00:10:56,093 --> 00:10:57,813 Speaker 3: make sure that the other person has looked after and 229 00:10:57,813 --> 00:11:00,252 Speaker 3: the kids have looked after. But whether it goes that 230 00:11:00,293 --> 00:11:03,293 Speaker 3: way when it gets down to the Narli side of things, 231 00:11:03,333 --> 00:11:05,172 Speaker 3: that is the real question. So, oh, one hundred and 232 00:11:05,213 --> 00:11:08,852 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call she if 233 00:11:08,892 --> 00:11:09,973 Speaker 3: you tell us your story. 234 00:11:10,252 --> 00:11:10,412 Speaker 1: What. 235 00:11:10,773 --> 00:11:13,573 Speaker 2: Well, apparently it was Epstein that invented bitcoin accord according 236 00:11:13,573 --> 00:11:15,492 Speaker 2: to this texture, so that's why it's permitting. 237 00:11:15,252 --> 00:11:17,012 Speaker 3: Right, I'll just say that's interesting. 238 00:11:17,053 --> 00:11:18,173 Speaker 2: I'll just check my sources on that. 239 00:11:18,252 --> 00:11:20,012 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we better double check that. One oh eight 240 00:11:20,012 --> 00:11:22,532 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you've gone through 241 00:11:22,533 --> 00:11:24,933 Speaker 3: a divorce, or a breakup. What do you wish you 242 00:11:24,973 --> 00:11:28,333 Speaker 3: may have done better or the mistakes that might have 243 00:11:28,372 --> 00:11:30,612 Speaker 3: been made? And is there a playbook for getting through 244 00:11:30,612 --> 00:11:32,973 Speaker 3: it as smooth as possible? It is seventeen past one. 245 00:11:33,093 --> 00:11:37,213 Speaker 3: Bag very shortly, the big stories, the big issues, the 246 00:11:37,213 --> 00:11:40,612 Speaker 3: big trends and everything in between. Mad Heath and Tyler 247 00:11:40,653 --> 00:11:44,973 Speaker 3: Adams afternoons, used talks. It'd be very good afternoons. It 248 00:11:45,053 --> 00:11:47,373 Speaker 3: is twenty past one. So the fallout of public divorces 249 00:11:47,372 --> 00:11:49,532 Speaker 3: and the headlines right now, obviously, but we want to 250 00:11:49,573 --> 00:11:51,893 Speaker 3: hear from you. If you've gone through a divorce or separation, 251 00:11:52,333 --> 00:11:54,253 Speaker 3: what do you think is the playbook to get through 252 00:11:54,293 --> 00:11:59,013 Speaker 3: it as stress free or with as little trauma as possible? 253 00:11:59,012 --> 00:12:00,453 Speaker 3: I wan one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number 254 00:12:00,492 --> 00:12:00,732 Speaker 3: to call? 255 00:12:00,892 --> 00:12:01,533 Speaker 2: Is it possible? 256 00:12:01,693 --> 00:12:01,933 Speaker 3: Joe? 257 00:12:01,973 --> 00:12:04,653 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. O, Hi THEA. 258 00:12:04,892 --> 00:12:06,053 Speaker 3: How are you good? 259 00:12:06,093 --> 00:12:06,372 Speaker 2: Thanks? 260 00:12:07,333 --> 00:12:09,892 Speaker 6: Yeah, goody. First of all, I just want to say 261 00:12:09,892 --> 00:12:13,533 Speaker 6: about our poor Chris Hipkins. He kept strong until his 262 00:12:13,612 --> 00:12:18,852 Speaker 6: kids were mentioned, because that's where your heart lies with you. 263 00:12:18,813 --> 00:12:22,732 Speaker 2: Consider us a lot, Joe. When politicians and sports people 264 00:12:23,492 --> 00:12:25,373 Speaker 2: retire and they do their speech and they hold it 265 00:12:25,413 --> 00:12:30,333 Speaker 2: together until they talk about their families, and that's yeah, 266 00:12:31,533 --> 00:12:34,413 Speaker 2: that's when they choke up, right, Yeah. 267 00:12:34,252 --> 00:12:36,813 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, totally. Well, I mean that's it's a new 268 00:12:37,213 --> 00:12:41,013 Speaker 6: Your babies are your world, dad or mum. 269 00:12:41,612 --> 00:12:41,813 Speaker 3: Yeah. 270 00:12:41,813 --> 00:12:47,412 Speaker 6: But my experience, I called myself a survivor. My experience 271 00:12:47,413 --> 00:12:51,693 Speaker 6: of the separation was and I'm going back nearly thirty 272 00:12:51,773 --> 00:12:54,612 Speaker 6: years ago, so got me big pens on. As I 273 00:12:54,653 --> 00:13:02,333 Speaker 6: said to your operator, Dad, we separated. Dad got on 274 00:13:02,372 --> 00:13:07,132 Speaker 6: a plane and left and left me with three broken 275 00:13:07,213 --> 00:13:14,493 Speaker 6: children broken. Two years later we hear from him, and 276 00:13:15,533 --> 00:13:18,573 Speaker 6: I was very lucky. And two teenage children and a 277 00:13:18,653 --> 00:13:24,292 Speaker 6: six year old who was broken, and well, we were 278 00:13:24,333 --> 00:13:27,492 Speaker 6: all broken, but the six year old suffered the worse. 279 00:13:28,293 --> 00:13:31,132 Speaker 6: He at the age of thirty odd, I think I 280 00:13:31,213 --> 00:13:35,693 Speaker 6: got the man he was always meant to be. But 281 00:13:37,892 --> 00:13:41,412 Speaker 6: I was lucky with my teenage children. I could discuss 282 00:13:41,492 --> 00:13:44,693 Speaker 6: things with them. The weast six year old, you know, 283 00:13:44,732 --> 00:13:46,453 Speaker 6: it was a bit over his head. So he just 284 00:13:46,533 --> 00:13:48,693 Speaker 6: had to come along with the ride, you know, the 285 00:13:48,732 --> 00:13:54,453 Speaker 6: way we walked. One thing I have always said is 286 00:13:54,773 --> 00:14:00,453 Speaker 6: one parent cannot tune the children against the other parent. 287 00:14:01,852 --> 00:14:04,893 Speaker 6: That that parent does it themselves, if you know what 288 00:14:04,933 --> 00:14:08,533 Speaker 6: I mean. I had said to my older children, I 289 00:14:08,612 --> 00:14:11,173 Speaker 6: might call Dad some names, you know, called him an 290 00:14:11,173 --> 00:14:18,533 Speaker 6: anchor and nothing harsh, but I never never dished him. 291 00:14:18,852 --> 00:14:21,973 Speaker 6: I explained to them that he loves them, He's just 292 00:14:22,013 --> 00:14:24,053 Speaker 6: got a funny way of showing it. And I tried 293 00:14:24,093 --> 00:14:30,613 Speaker 6: to keep their relationship going. But as years went on, 294 00:14:31,173 --> 00:14:35,573 Speaker 6: they grew, they learnt he was to what he was, 295 00:14:37,253 --> 00:14:41,333 Speaker 6: and bub all had some type of relationship with him 296 00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:43,653 Speaker 6: over the years, And believe it or not, it's the 297 00:14:43,693 --> 00:14:47,373 Speaker 6: only the younger one now that speaks to him, which 298 00:14:47,453 --> 00:14:52,333 Speaker 6: I'm grateful for. But he lost a lot, He lost 299 00:14:52,373 --> 00:14:56,333 Speaker 6: all the grandchildren, but that was his choice in walking 300 00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:57,453 Speaker 6: away that he did. 301 00:14:59,213 --> 00:15:01,213 Speaker 2: That he got on a plane. Was there anything said 302 00:15:02,053 --> 00:15:04,213 Speaker 2: before he got on a plane or was it just 303 00:15:04,453 --> 00:15:08,893 Speaker 2: a just he just gapped, He just kept wow, just 304 00:15:09,013 --> 00:15:10,973 Speaker 2: get And did you have any ending that that might 305 00:15:11,053 --> 00:15:12,693 Speaker 2: happen before it happened? Joan? 306 00:15:13,853 --> 00:15:16,573 Speaker 7: No, No, do you know now? 307 00:15:16,773 --> 00:15:20,173 Speaker 2: Do you do any any idea now? Why that may well? 308 00:15:20,213 --> 00:15:25,253 Speaker 6: Look after about twenty three years him and I have spoken. Yeah, 309 00:15:25,733 --> 00:15:29,253 Speaker 6: we got together with one of our children who came 310 00:15:29,293 --> 00:15:32,933 Speaker 6: back to New Zealand for a holiday and brought grandchildren 311 00:15:32,973 --> 00:15:39,453 Speaker 6: over so he could meet and the youngest one came 312 00:15:39,533 --> 00:15:43,253 Speaker 6: with We went up north to and we all were 313 00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:47,053 Speaker 6: under the same RUF and it wasn't until my younger 314 00:15:47,053 --> 00:15:50,853 Speaker 6: one I made a point of getting photos that those 315 00:15:50,853 --> 00:15:53,933 Speaker 6: two children that were with us had photos of them 316 00:15:53,973 --> 00:15:58,453 Speaker 6: with mum and dad. Those grandchildren had the photos of 317 00:15:58,813 --> 00:16:02,533 Speaker 6: him and I the grandparents, which I made a point 318 00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:05,333 Speaker 6: of of, you know, really wanting for my children and 319 00:16:05,373 --> 00:16:10,933 Speaker 6: grandchildren's sake, and it was a to my younger one said, wow, 320 00:16:11,133 --> 00:16:14,533 Speaker 6: this is the first photo I have with my mum 321 00:16:14,573 --> 00:16:21,253 Speaker 6: and dad for twenty odd years, and that hit me. 322 00:16:23,773 --> 00:16:26,573 Speaker 6: But I wanted to do all this for my children. 323 00:16:27,173 --> 00:16:33,453 Speaker 6: So my whole point of separation divorce. Yes there's anger, 324 00:16:33,733 --> 00:16:38,173 Speaker 6: yes there's hurt, but just remember those innocent children that 325 00:16:38,213 --> 00:16:42,573 Speaker 6: were never asked to be born. They are a blessing 326 00:16:43,213 --> 00:16:47,733 Speaker 6: into that relationship. And if they're old enough, you really 327 00:16:47,813 --> 00:16:52,893 Speaker 6: need to adult up and discuss things with them, because 328 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:57,653 Speaker 6: life shows that not all relationships they start to end. 329 00:16:59,373 --> 00:17:03,013 Speaker 6: But just be honest with those children, and if they're 330 00:17:03,493 --> 00:17:08,773 Speaker 6: too young to explain, do not cut your those of 331 00:17:08,893 --> 00:17:14,413 Speaker 6: despite your faith, and deprive those children of that parent's love. 332 00:17:15,493 --> 00:17:20,733 Speaker 6: Of there are the grandparents' love because you stop at 333 00:17:20,813 --> 00:17:24,133 Speaker 6: father or a mother from seeing their children. 334 00:17:24,853 --> 00:17:25,613 Speaker 8: What are you doing? 335 00:17:26,653 --> 00:17:31,573 Speaker 6: You're just depriving them. If you cutt off the other 336 00:17:31,653 --> 00:17:37,532 Speaker 6: grandparents of whatever a parent, those grandparents suffer plus those 337 00:17:37,653 --> 00:17:38,653 Speaker 6: child you know. 338 00:17:39,733 --> 00:17:43,453 Speaker 2: But you must have been angry though, because you're being 339 00:17:43,813 --> 00:17:47,293 Speaker 2: left to carry the can with three kids. So how 340 00:17:47,293 --> 00:17:51,933 Speaker 2: did you manage to internalize that anger such that it 341 00:17:51,973 --> 00:17:53,293 Speaker 2: didn't affect your kids? 342 00:17:53,373 --> 00:17:58,693 Speaker 6: Joe, I suck the lot and cride and the share, 343 00:17:59,453 --> 00:18:04,013 Speaker 6: pride and the share. I was very Don't get me wrong, 344 00:18:04,133 --> 00:18:07,773 Speaker 6: I love them. I feel like he probably was my soulmate. 345 00:18:08,093 --> 00:18:14,453 Speaker 6: But the hurt and the anger I just carried. I 346 00:18:14,853 --> 00:18:19,253 Speaker 6: didn't let my children see any of it. I did 347 00:18:19,293 --> 00:18:22,933 Speaker 6: myself harm, Don't get me wrong. I should have released 348 00:18:22,973 --> 00:18:26,213 Speaker 6: a lot more. I mean, I watched the movie of 349 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:30,693 Speaker 6: the Dog that Got kicked, and I'm crying a river, 350 00:18:31,173 --> 00:18:32,493 Speaker 6: Not not because. 351 00:18:32,173 --> 00:18:33,093 Speaker 9: The dog got kicked. 352 00:18:33,253 --> 00:18:36,413 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm upset over there. I'm crying an absolute river 353 00:18:36,493 --> 00:18:41,973 Speaker 6: because I'm releasing some floodgates that I had been internally carrying. 354 00:18:44,413 --> 00:18:50,173 Speaker 6: I'm here and there a stronger, harder woman, which I 355 00:18:51,653 --> 00:18:54,573 Speaker 6: being so harder, and my heart's a little bit harder, 356 00:18:54,613 --> 00:18:59,213 Speaker 6: you know, I don't that's a price I've paid. 357 00:19:00,253 --> 00:19:02,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, thank you so much. Joe, appreciate you sharing 358 00:19:03,253 --> 00:19:04,173 Speaker 2: sharing your story there. 359 00:19:04,373 --> 00:19:06,733 Speaker 3: You sound like an incredible mum and taf tough to 360 00:19:06,773 --> 00:19:07,733 Speaker 3: go through something like that. 361 00:19:07,893 --> 00:19:10,613 Speaker 2: So is that is the key? That you just have 362 00:19:10,693 --> 00:19:14,053 Speaker 2: to keep the kids one hundred percent out of it. 363 00:19:14,093 --> 00:19:18,173 Speaker 2: They can never know that you're affected. You can absolutely. 364 00:19:18,773 --> 00:19:20,973 Speaker 2: I mean it seems it seems like a no brainer 365 00:19:20,973 --> 00:19:23,253 Speaker 2: that you can't go slagging off the mum or the 366 00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:26,733 Speaker 2: mum can't go slagging off the dad to the kids, right, Yeah, 367 00:19:26,773 --> 00:19:30,373 Speaker 2: because as Joe said, they had no choice to be here. 368 00:19:30,373 --> 00:19:34,013 Speaker 2: You've brought them into the world, so they are your responsibility. 369 00:19:34,093 --> 00:19:37,173 Speaker 2: So whatever's happened in your emotional life and your relationship, 370 00:19:37,693 --> 00:19:42,253 Speaker 2: that is not the kid's problem. That they need to 371 00:19:42,293 --> 00:19:45,693 Speaker 2: feel like mum loves your dad loves you. They're just 372 00:19:45,853 --> 00:19:46,933 Speaker 2: not living together anymore. 373 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,453 Speaker 3: You've got a very it deep if you've got trauma. Yeah, 374 00:19:49,493 --> 00:19:50,333 Speaker 3: do you agree with Joe? 375 00:19:50,373 --> 00:19:50,493 Speaker 10: Oh? 376 00:19:50,493 --> 00:19:52,573 Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is it number one? 377 00:19:52,573 --> 00:19:54,173 Speaker 3: Do you need to let it all out? Yeah? Nine 378 00:19:54,453 --> 00:19:56,773 Speaker 3: nine two is the teach number. It's twenty eight past one. 379 00:19:58,493 --> 00:20:02,613 Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the make asking breakfast. 380 00:20:02,613 --> 00:20:03,733 Speaker 2: It's nothing like the price of minutes. 381 00:20:03,773 --> 00:20:05,853 Speaker 11: To take your attention off the war, food price inflation 382 00:20:05,893 --> 00:20:08,053 Speaker 11: four point five percent of the twelve months to Feedbury. 383 00:20:08,093 --> 00:20:11,013 Speaker 11: Chris quinn is, the CEO of Foodstuffs North Island. Has 384 00:20:11,093 --> 00:20:13,493 Speaker 11: the war added to the cost in the two and 385 00:20:13,573 --> 00:20:14,853 Speaker 11: a bit weeks it's been going. 386 00:20:14,893 --> 00:20:16,933 Speaker 12: That would be two tone for it to show up 387 00:20:16,973 --> 00:20:20,493 Speaker 12: in the February's numbers. We are definitely seeing dramatic increases 388 00:20:20,533 --> 00:20:22,213 Speaker 12: in the cost of diesel, which is all about our 389 00:20:22,213 --> 00:20:25,133 Speaker 12: supply chain fleets, and we're seeing our supplies start to 390 00:20:25,133 --> 00:20:27,453 Speaker 12: tell us that they really are seeing component costs like 391 00:20:27,493 --> 00:20:30,773 Speaker 12: plastics start to increase pretty rapidly in terms of prices 392 00:20:30,773 --> 00:20:33,173 Speaker 12: they need to pay. So we anticipate there is going 393 00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:35,893 Speaker 12: to be some impact. The good news and supply is 394 00:20:35,973 --> 00:20:36,573 Speaker 12: not at risk. 395 00:20:36,733 --> 00:20:39,573 Speaker 11: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike asking breakfast with 396 00:20:39,693 --> 00:20:40,733 Speaker 11: rain drivers. 397 00:20:40,373 --> 00:20:42,453 Speaker 1: Fort SV News Talk ZB. 398 00:20:42,493 --> 00:20:44,413 Speaker 3: Twenty nine to two. Plenty of texts coming through on 399 00:20:44,493 --> 00:20:45,333 Speaker 3: nine two ninety two. 400 00:20:45,733 --> 00:20:48,253 Speaker 2: What a flip an awesome human that woman was. My 401 00:20:48,453 --> 00:20:51,893 Speaker 2: mother had the same approach regarding my father and will 402 00:20:51,933 --> 00:20:55,173 Speaker 2: forever be grateful for the manna of these women. Yeah, 403 00:20:55,213 --> 00:20:58,253 Speaker 2: a lot of positive texts coming through for Joe's call 404 00:20:58,413 --> 00:20:59,213 Speaker 2: lovely courses. 405 00:20:59,373 --> 00:21:00,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, an incredible woman. 406 00:21:01,453 --> 00:21:04,013 Speaker 2: This Texas says, nosy gossip show, shame on you? Could 407 00:21:04,053 --> 00:21:05,893 Speaker 2: you move on? No, We'll continue doing this because I'm 408 00:21:06,293 --> 00:21:10,213 Speaker 2: find it very interesting and is something that it's fifteen 409 00:21:10,453 --> 00:21:11,893 Speaker 2: thousand kiwis a year. 410 00:21:12,013 --> 00:21:14,453 Speaker 3: Yep, it's important to a lot of people. This text 411 00:21:14,453 --> 00:21:17,493 Speaker 3: to says, get guys, I've been through a divorce and cancer, 412 00:21:17,573 --> 00:21:21,373 Speaker 3: and divorce was worse with cancer. People are sympathetic and 413 00:21:21,493 --> 00:21:24,693 Speaker 3: kind with a divorce, people take sides and make judgments 414 00:21:24,693 --> 00:21:27,013 Speaker 3: without all the knowledge behind the decision. My advice would 415 00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:29,933 Speaker 3: be for friends and family to be more understanding that 416 00:21:30,053 --> 00:21:32,853 Speaker 3: pain is involved for everyone, even if you are the 417 00:21:32,853 --> 00:21:35,653 Speaker 3: one choosing to leave. Be kind because it's easy to 418 00:21:35,733 --> 00:21:38,213 Speaker 3: judge thinking it will never happen to you or your children. 419 00:21:38,653 --> 00:21:40,813 Speaker 2: What about this text? I knew a guy whose wife 420 00:21:40,853 --> 00:21:43,173 Speaker 2: cheated on him, but every birthday he would give his 421 00:21:43,253 --> 00:21:45,493 Speaker 2: kids flowers to give their mum from him, as he 422 00:21:45,573 --> 00:21:48,053 Speaker 2: wanted them to know how a man should treat a woman. 423 00:21:48,133 --> 00:21:50,733 Speaker 2: Oh mate, Wow, he's never told the kids why he 424 00:21:50,853 --> 00:21:52,813 Speaker 2: left and has never spoken ill of her in front 425 00:21:52,813 --> 00:21:55,573 Speaker 2: of them. I mean, that's an absolute must right in 426 00:21:55,653 --> 00:21:58,853 Speaker 2: all diverse. Yeah, divorces. You can't go speaking ill of 427 00:21:59,093 --> 00:22:01,733 Speaker 2: the other parts of the kids, not to the kids. Yeah, 428 00:22:01,733 --> 00:22:05,733 Speaker 2: I mean you can hear mates go loose. Yeah, probably 429 00:22:05,773 --> 00:22:08,573 Speaker 2: keep that off socials. Those kids adore their dad. He's 430 00:22:08,613 --> 00:22:12,213 Speaker 2: also a pretty gruff dude. Not a guy with no respect, 431 00:22:12,493 --> 00:22:13,293 Speaker 2: quite the opposite. 432 00:22:13,653 --> 00:22:15,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, good text keep those coming through on nine two 433 00:22:16,013 --> 00:22:17,893 Speaker 3: ninety two. But taking your calls on oh, eight hundred 434 00:22:18,173 --> 00:22:19,613 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty as well. 435 00:22:19,813 --> 00:22:22,813 Speaker 2: What a wise, unselfish and lovely lady Joe was one 436 00:22:22,853 --> 00:22:23,573 Speaker 2: hundred ccent degree. 437 00:22:23,693 --> 00:22:26,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of texts coming in celebrating Joe. So, 438 00:22:26,613 --> 00:22:29,013 Speaker 3: oh eight hundred eighty ten to eighty is that number 439 00:22:29,053 --> 00:22:30,973 Speaker 3: to call if you've been through a divorce, would you 440 00:22:31,093 --> 00:22:33,693 Speaker 3: do anything differently? And did you manage to make it 441 00:22:33,773 --> 00:22:37,572 Speaker 3: through somewhat amicably? Can Dick hear your story? It is 442 00:22:37,693 --> 00:22:39,693 Speaker 3: twenty seven to two headlines coming up. 443 00:22:41,053 --> 00:22:44,613 Speaker 5: US talk said be headlines with your Ride, New Zealand's 444 00:22:44,693 --> 00:22:49,013 Speaker 5: number one taxi app Download your Ride today. A Cabinet 445 00:22:49,013 --> 00:22:53,453 Speaker 5: papers revealed the US non binding Minerals Deal Framework proposal 446 00:22:53,733 --> 00:22:57,893 Speaker 5: received in December. 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Ray Lang Off with the fairies. 466 00:24:12,293 --> 00:24:15,733 Speaker 2: That's in the list of crimes that that guy's committed 467 00:24:15,773 --> 00:24:17,733 Speaker 2: on here, that doesn't seem like the highest. 468 00:24:17,893 --> 00:24:19,653 Speaker 3: No, if he ever takes that to court. 469 00:24:19,853 --> 00:24:23,693 Speaker 2: If anyone thought either of those broadcast is worth ten 470 00:24:23,693 --> 00:24:26,173 Speaker 2: million dollars a year, yeah, they probably deserve what they've 471 00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:26,813 Speaker 2: got coming down. 472 00:24:26,933 --> 00:24:29,533 Speaker 3: They're about to think that. That media operation, I mean, 473 00:24:29,773 --> 00:24:31,213 Speaker 3: arm was like, we're going to get rid of these. 474 00:24:31,213 --> 00:24:33,733 Speaker 3: We can't afford him anymore, and away with the faeries 475 00:24:33,853 --> 00:24:35,173 Speaker 3: is what they hung it on. 476 00:24:35,413 --> 00:24:37,413 Speaker 2: Twenty million a year for that mumpy. 477 00:24:37,053 --> 00:24:39,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh, one hundred and eighty, ten eighty years. 478 00:24:39,253 --> 00:24:41,173 Speaker 3: The number of call we're talking about the best ways 479 00:24:41,213 --> 00:24:43,653 Speaker 3: to get through a divorce or separation. What has worked 480 00:24:43,693 --> 00:24:45,453 Speaker 3: for you or what are you? What would you do 481 00:24:45,573 --> 00:24:48,572 Speaker 3: different if you had to do it again? Adrian? How 482 00:24:48,573 --> 00:24:49,413 Speaker 3: are you this afternoon? 483 00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:52,853 Speaker 8: It has what you names? 484 00:24:52,893 --> 00:24:55,253 Speaker 13: Tyler? And sorry? 485 00:24:55,293 --> 00:24:56,013 Speaker 3: What was that? Adrian? 486 00:24:56,653 --> 00:24:58,773 Speaker 8: Do you want what were your names? Again? Sorry? 487 00:24:59,373 --> 00:25:02,573 Speaker 3: You see talking to madd and Tyler Matt and Tyler. 488 00:25:02,653 --> 00:25:07,693 Speaker 8: Yeah, yes right here, Yeah, I'm just singing, Joe, I'm 489 00:25:07,773 --> 00:25:11,052 Speaker 8: going see they're speaking. I was quite moved by what 490 00:25:11,173 --> 00:25:15,613 Speaker 8: she had to say. Mm hm and yeah it happened 491 00:25:15,653 --> 00:25:20,853 Speaker 8: to me almost another statistical divorce like so many people 492 00:25:20,893 --> 00:25:26,133 Speaker 8: are in this country unfortunately, and you know my al 493 00:25:26,293 --> 00:25:28,493 Speaker 8: is a little bit different. And I talked too long, 494 00:25:28,533 --> 00:25:34,053 Speaker 8: but is this amazing how something happened in the headlines whatever, 495 00:25:34,173 --> 00:25:41,453 Speaker 8: And it starts a conversation about divorce and it's a 496 00:25:41,613 --> 00:25:43,773 Speaker 8: very common thing in New Zealand and obviously, and it's 497 00:25:43,893 --> 00:25:50,293 Speaker 8: very important for people to understand and right one another 498 00:25:50,653 --> 00:25:58,213 Speaker 8: the repercussions of separation in America or partnership. And it 499 00:25:58,293 --> 00:26:01,133 Speaker 8: happened to me. We lost our daughter back in the 500 00:26:01,253 --> 00:26:05,813 Speaker 8: year two thousand, my first wife and I we were 501 00:26:06,013 --> 00:26:12,213 Speaker 8: now and my daughter was fourteen months old. Do you 502 00:26:12,293 --> 00:26:17,813 Speaker 8: think happened in in a home accident where she was 503 00:26:17,853 --> 00:26:23,573 Speaker 8: strangled in a court in the sun. And yeah, so 504 00:26:24,613 --> 00:26:27,693 Speaker 8: as you can imagine, at times a book of coin 505 00:26:27,773 --> 00:26:33,893 Speaker 8: rules increase took place to a step us wars and 506 00:26:35,133 --> 00:26:39,093 Speaker 8: I mean the laws were gardening costs in the marketplace 507 00:26:39,773 --> 00:26:45,133 Speaker 8: and happening the game to you know families. Yeah, she 508 00:26:45,173 --> 00:26:49,293 Speaker 8: has strangled herself. Thing that's stuck around. We're born a 509 00:26:49,373 --> 00:26:54,013 Speaker 8: post of the cost and we came in the room. 510 00:26:54,093 --> 00:26:56,933 Speaker 8: It's really really you know, even think about it just 511 00:26:57,013 --> 00:27:01,413 Speaker 8: about brings tears my eyes. You know, that's twenty twenty 512 00:27:01,413 --> 00:27:08,053 Speaker 8: five years later, and we separated two years later, and 513 00:27:10,333 --> 00:27:13,613 Speaker 8: people asked, I think, oh, that's why we separated. It 514 00:27:14,093 --> 00:27:18,453 Speaker 8: was spanning the one maybe as an important thing that 515 00:27:18,573 --> 00:27:22,213 Speaker 8: happened in Amrita. Of course, my wife to think about 516 00:27:22,293 --> 00:27:27,973 Speaker 8: our marriage, and she she grieves really a lot about 517 00:27:28,013 --> 00:27:31,133 Speaker 8: what happened. She had she wasn't working, she only a 518 00:27:31,133 --> 00:27:34,893 Speaker 8: working part time, whereas I talked three weeks off work 519 00:27:35,453 --> 00:27:38,093 Speaker 8: and went back to work at a company of fear 520 00:27:38,173 --> 00:27:42,013 Speaker 8: paps I work for, and she reckon, you know, score 521 00:27:42,093 --> 00:27:48,013 Speaker 8: on my life and and for who it was different. 522 00:27:48,093 --> 00:27:51,733 Speaker 8: She had to sat home and look after my other daughters. 523 00:27:52,053 --> 00:27:52,693 Speaker 7: She was like. 524 00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:55,133 Speaker 12: Five time. 525 00:27:56,133 --> 00:28:02,213 Speaker 8: And yeah, so we divorced two years later, and and then, 526 00:28:02,413 --> 00:28:04,653 Speaker 8: you know, I think about what Joe said her, you know, 527 00:28:04,773 --> 00:28:10,373 Speaker 8: how fix the family unit and in particularly the children, 528 00:28:11,253 --> 00:28:13,333 Speaker 8: you know, and we had to work through the you 529 00:28:14,733 --> 00:28:18,733 Speaker 8: know differences over the years. You know, up came trial 530 00:28:18,853 --> 00:28:25,533 Speaker 8: maintenance for you know, the next I know, fourteen fifteen 531 00:28:25,613 --> 00:28:29,813 Speaker 8: years until that that, you know, I hadn't sought having 532 00:28:29,893 --> 00:28:32,532 Speaker 8: to do that. And we had to separate, you know, 533 00:28:32,613 --> 00:28:36,533 Speaker 8: the property. We invested in the property and quite shot 534 00:28:36,613 --> 00:28:40,133 Speaker 8: share and you know, in the end and I left there. 535 00:28:40,333 --> 00:28:43,533 Speaker 8: I left the house, and my wife just got the 536 00:28:43,573 --> 00:28:48,133 Speaker 8: house with my daughter, my many daughter, and she and 537 00:28:48,293 --> 00:28:51,253 Speaker 8: carried on and then an issum and another guy, and 538 00:28:51,413 --> 00:28:54,573 Speaker 8: she got married and said in the inn. And I 539 00:28:54,573 --> 00:28:59,613 Speaker 8: got remarried in two thousand and eleven, just after the grades. 540 00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:05,573 Speaker 8: You know, my second marriage has been wonderful. But yeah, 541 00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:09,413 Speaker 8: I've got sort of health problems now. But but back then, 542 00:29:09,573 --> 00:29:13,653 Speaker 8: you know, we had to deal with the you know, 543 00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:17,493 Speaker 8: we had to at least talk to another with my 544 00:29:17,613 --> 00:29:21,013 Speaker 8: daughter regards to my daughter, because you can't just stop 545 00:29:21,133 --> 00:29:24,893 Speaker 8: talking to one another just because you're you know, because 546 00:29:24,893 --> 00:29:27,213 Speaker 8: you're separa do you have to think about your daughter? 547 00:29:27,293 --> 00:29:27,453 Speaker 13: You know? 548 00:29:28,853 --> 00:29:32,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, Adrian's so sorry. What what you went through twenty 549 00:29:32,373 --> 00:29:35,213 Speaker 3: years ago? And obviously you were remarried and your former 550 00:29:35,253 --> 00:29:38,853 Speaker 3: wife remarried. Do you stand in contact with her? Do 551 00:29:38,893 --> 00:29:41,293 Speaker 3: you do you still talk to her or see her? 552 00:29:41,933 --> 00:29:44,413 Speaker 8: Well, for a long time, we sort of, like, you know, 553 00:29:45,693 --> 00:29:48,853 Speaker 8: I took a long time before we It's only because 554 00:29:48,893 --> 00:29:52,213 Speaker 8: my second my older as how old, the daughter she 555 00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:56,213 Speaker 8: got sort of like mentally ill, and we had to 556 00:29:56,333 --> 00:29:59,373 Speaker 8: sort of like think about her more so and we 557 00:29:59,413 --> 00:30:02,173 Speaker 8: had to, like you know, in the end, we ended 558 00:30:02,253 --> 00:30:05,573 Speaker 8: up talking to one another more so and think about 559 00:30:05,613 --> 00:30:10,253 Speaker 8: her mental health. And and I think, you know, some 560 00:30:10,373 --> 00:30:15,173 Speaker 8: of what happened with the different my younger sister and 561 00:30:15,333 --> 00:30:18,293 Speaker 8: other in my grandmother, that sort of thing that played 562 00:30:18,333 --> 00:30:22,573 Speaker 8: a part on my on my lows daughter tis suiting there, 563 00:30:23,293 --> 00:30:26,253 Speaker 8: and you know, and we had to think about our 564 00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:29,573 Speaker 8: mental health. So we had to come together and put 565 00:30:29,573 --> 00:30:32,893 Speaker 8: aside out, you know, whatever differences we were head in 566 00:30:32,933 --> 00:30:37,093 Speaker 8: the past again for the bendment of our daughter. And 567 00:30:37,293 --> 00:30:43,093 Speaker 8: so we did that, and and then and then more recently, 568 00:30:43,213 --> 00:30:46,533 Speaker 8: unfortunately we've got into a bit of a bit of 569 00:30:46,573 --> 00:30:50,573 Speaker 8: a different, different sort of opinion about what is for 570 00:30:50,733 --> 00:30:53,933 Speaker 8: our daughter, and is and is some of the old 571 00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:58,053 Speaker 8: sort of like mud you could say, got you know, 572 00:30:58,893 --> 00:31:02,453 Speaker 8: playing in our face again, because because you know, even 573 00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:04,773 Speaker 8: though it's sort of like talk, you know, when you 574 00:31:04,933 --> 00:31:08,613 Speaker 8: bring out the past, when when when the know and 575 00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:11,893 Speaker 8: the father bring up past about and they start getting 576 00:31:11,933 --> 00:31:15,813 Speaker 8: sort of personal towards one another, then it doesn't help 577 00:31:15,853 --> 00:31:18,893 Speaker 8: the situation. But what you had to do at some 578 00:31:18,973 --> 00:31:21,813 Speaker 8: point in your life, you have to realize that, you know, 579 00:31:21,853 --> 00:31:24,893 Speaker 8: you have to be honest with yourself, and you have 580 00:31:24,973 --> 00:31:28,693 Speaker 8: to be honest with your daughter. Right throughout the whole thing. 581 00:31:28,733 --> 00:31:31,813 Speaker 8: When they're old enough, Like Joe said, you had to 582 00:31:32,893 --> 00:31:35,133 Speaker 8: you have to stay truth to them. You have to 583 00:31:35,173 --> 00:31:38,333 Speaker 8: tell them, you know, you have to be humble enough 584 00:31:38,373 --> 00:31:41,693 Speaker 8: to kind of struct your pride and you have to 585 00:31:41,853 --> 00:31:45,933 Speaker 8: like tell them what happened, whatever, whatever I want to know, 586 00:31:46,653 --> 00:31:48,813 Speaker 8: and you have to be honest with them, and you 587 00:31:48,853 --> 00:31:50,253 Speaker 8: have to be honest with yourself. 588 00:31:51,533 --> 00:31:54,253 Speaker 3: Adrian, you're a very strong fellow. Thank you very much 589 00:31:54,333 --> 00:31:56,413 Speaker 3: for sharing your story and giving us a call, and 590 00:31:56,733 --> 00:31:59,693 Speaker 3: all the very best to you. That is Adrian. 591 00:31:59,733 --> 00:31:59,773 Speaker 4: No. 592 00:31:59,853 --> 00:32:01,813 Speaker 3: Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 593 00:32:01,813 --> 00:32:03,173 Speaker 3: to call if you want to send a text. Nine 594 00:32:03,213 --> 00:32:05,493 Speaker 3: two nine to two is that number. 595 00:32:05,653 --> 00:32:08,973 Speaker 2: I mean the absolute horror of life as in a child, 596 00:32:08,973 --> 00:32:12,413 Speaker 2: as this Texas is. You know what some people go through. 597 00:32:12,933 --> 00:32:14,013 Speaker 2: My goodness, man. 598 00:32:14,213 --> 00:32:16,773 Speaker 3: Puts things into perspective. Right beg very shortly. It is 599 00:32:16,813 --> 00:32:20,173 Speaker 3: a quarter to two. 600 00:32:19,493 --> 00:32:23,133 Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heath and Tyler Adams 601 00:32:23,173 --> 00:32:27,373 Speaker 1: afternoons with Skoda. Can you correct the scot Code news talks. 602 00:32:27,373 --> 00:32:30,053 Speaker 3: They'd be very good. Afternoon you It's twelve to two. 603 00:32:30,493 --> 00:32:32,693 Speaker 3: What is the best way to get through a divorce 604 00:32:32,773 --> 00:32:33,973 Speaker 3: or on one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that 605 00:32:34,093 --> 00:32:35,133 Speaker 3: number to call get a John? 606 00:32:36,653 --> 00:32:37,693 Speaker 13: Hello, manon Tyler? 607 00:32:37,733 --> 00:32:40,013 Speaker 3: How are you very good? Nice to chat with you. 608 00:32:40,133 --> 00:32:42,533 Speaker 3: So how did it go for you? I take it 609 00:32:42,573 --> 00:32:43,893 Speaker 3: you you've gone through a divorce. 610 00:32:44,973 --> 00:32:48,413 Speaker 10: Yes, definitely, definitely, probably a bit of a playbook from 611 00:32:48,413 --> 00:32:52,893 Speaker 10: me of not how to do it. I caught my 612 00:32:52,933 --> 00:32:57,373 Speaker 10: wife cheating on me and was absolutely devastated because we've 613 00:32:57,453 --> 00:33:02,053 Speaker 10: had a pretty good life, and following her moving out 614 00:33:02,093 --> 00:33:05,493 Speaker 10: of our family home, I acted really poorly, probably for 615 00:33:05,533 --> 00:33:08,093 Speaker 10: a couple of months, just because I was absolutely did 616 00:33:10,093 --> 00:33:13,293 Speaker 10: not in an aggressive way or anything, but just calling 617 00:33:13,333 --> 00:33:15,893 Speaker 10: her names and probably took in front of the children 618 00:33:15,933 --> 00:33:20,533 Speaker 10: as well, which obviously that related into our protection order 619 00:33:21,733 --> 00:33:25,493 Speaker 10: which I wasn't allowed to drink three months, wasn't allowed 620 00:33:25,493 --> 00:33:27,293 Speaker 10: to contact her. I had to deal through one of 621 00:33:27,333 --> 00:33:31,093 Speaker 10: my friends through in all contact from there went into 622 00:33:31,093 --> 00:33:35,533 Speaker 10: a parenting order. We've got two children, one fourteen and 623 00:33:35,573 --> 00:33:40,733 Speaker 10: one twelve, and yeah, unfortunately my daughter now is with 624 00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:44,653 Speaker 10: her full time and have very little contact with her. 625 00:33:44,813 --> 00:33:48,853 Speaker 10: So I think the key is really we obviously you're 626 00:33:48,893 --> 00:33:53,373 Speaker 10: in an absolute hurt locker of pain, but you've got 627 00:33:53,373 --> 00:33:57,853 Speaker 10: a whold emotions together and just not let that out. 628 00:33:58,733 --> 00:34:01,973 Speaker 10: And obviously that's that was about three years ago, but 629 00:34:02,093 --> 00:34:06,733 Speaker 10: it's still hugely painful to me. We haven't managed to 630 00:34:06,773 --> 00:34:10,172 Speaker 10: sort our proper relationshiprop we're currently in court with that. 631 00:34:10,613 --> 00:34:12,852 Speaker 10: We're probably in a bit of a different situation. We've 632 00:34:12,893 --> 00:34:17,733 Speaker 10: got four family trusts, we've got multiple commercial properties and 633 00:34:18,093 --> 00:34:22,933 Speaker 10: let properties and batches yet real complex, and I've spent 634 00:34:23,013 --> 00:34:28,373 Speaker 10: over one hundred drohusand dollars with the lawyers trying to 635 00:34:28,893 --> 00:34:33,652 Speaker 10: not only defend I'm a reasonably successful businessman and my 636 00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:36,333 Speaker 10: name was kind of tainted and everything along those lines, 637 00:34:36,373 --> 00:34:40,013 Speaker 10: so kind of protecting myself but also trying to not 638 00:34:40,173 --> 00:34:43,693 Speaker 10: lose my daughter. We've got soul custody of my boy, 639 00:34:43,853 --> 00:34:48,813 Speaker 10: and you know, he's just they're great kids. But unfortunately, 640 00:34:48,853 --> 00:34:52,533 Speaker 10: my actions and probably those first six weeks when I 641 00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:56,133 Speaker 10: was absolutely devastated, had cost me for years and years. 642 00:34:56,493 --> 00:34:59,093 Speaker 2: But John, you've got to be able to try and 643 00:34:59,093 --> 00:35:02,293 Speaker 2: forgive yourself for the heck, because you've come across something. 644 00:35:02,453 --> 00:35:05,373 Speaker 2: You know you went and there wrong with the initial thing, 645 00:35:05,653 --> 00:35:08,333 Speaker 2: and there's ways we want to behave but the fact 646 00:35:08,493 --> 00:35:10,373 Speaker 2: that you can look back now and say that you 647 00:35:10,653 --> 00:35:13,013 Speaker 2: were wrong just shows that you're a good person and 648 00:35:13,053 --> 00:35:13,653 Speaker 2: that you're growing. 649 00:35:14,933 --> 00:35:18,773 Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know, and unfortunately we still have an 650 00:35:18,853 --> 00:35:22,253 Speaker 10: extremely poor co parenting situation. We don't talk. You know, 651 00:35:22,293 --> 00:35:25,613 Speaker 10: it's very awkward where I'm a pretty easy going kind 652 00:35:25,613 --> 00:35:26,933 Speaker 10: of guy and I kind of want to move on, 653 00:35:27,013 --> 00:35:27,533 Speaker 10: but I don't. 654 00:35:27,573 --> 00:35:29,973 Speaker 2: Can you can you forgive? Can you find it in 655 00:35:30,013 --> 00:35:31,053 Speaker 2: your heart to forgive? John? 656 00:35:32,373 --> 00:35:32,533 Speaker 13: Yep? 657 00:35:32,853 --> 00:35:37,013 Speaker 10: Absolutely, And I've moved on and I've got a fantastic 658 00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:41,053 Speaker 10: new partner. It was amazing, she was. It was a 659 00:35:41,093 --> 00:35:43,493 Speaker 10: real tough one because I knew something was wrong in 660 00:35:43,493 --> 00:35:47,173 Speaker 10: our relationship. And it was about probably ten months and 661 00:35:46,933 --> 00:35:49,933 Speaker 10: I actually started going to counseling because I thought I 662 00:35:49,973 --> 00:35:51,853 Speaker 10: was going crazy because I said, I think you haven't 663 00:35:51,853 --> 00:35:54,893 Speaker 10: an affair, and she just gaflated me for that whole 664 00:35:54,933 --> 00:35:57,573 Speaker 10: period and then I actually kind of caught them and 665 00:35:57,613 --> 00:36:01,613 Speaker 10: that's when my whole world fell apart, right, And unfortunately 666 00:36:02,413 --> 00:36:05,853 Speaker 10: I kind of just fell into every trap and the pain, 667 00:36:06,373 --> 00:36:09,573 Speaker 10: the pain from that is horrible, and it's kind of 668 00:36:09,693 --> 00:36:12,493 Speaker 10: it's like a death right, you know, you you it's 669 00:36:12,533 --> 00:36:19,173 Speaker 10: like losing someone. But from there, the time and energy 670 00:36:19,333 --> 00:36:22,973 Speaker 10: that I've I've lost from from work and putting into 671 00:36:23,053 --> 00:36:28,213 Speaker 10: my children with the amount of time in court, not 672 00:36:28,373 --> 00:36:31,213 Speaker 10: so much in court but dealing with lawyers. It's just 673 00:36:32,213 --> 00:36:35,893 Speaker 10: it's almost every day and yeah and that. But it's 674 00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:39,733 Speaker 10: because of my like the you know, the protection or 675 00:36:39,733 --> 00:36:43,013 Speaker 10: appearance and order situation was because of my mistake. But 676 00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:48,413 Speaker 10: the complexity around the relationship property is obviously something that's 677 00:36:48,413 --> 00:36:49,293 Speaker 10: a lot more complex. 678 00:36:49,413 --> 00:36:53,253 Speaker 3: But John, thank you very much for giving us call mates. 679 00:36:53,373 --> 00:36:55,533 Speaker 3: And it sounds like you know, obviously you learned a 680 00:36:55,573 --> 00:36:57,413 Speaker 3: few things and you weren't in the wrong. But well 681 00:36:57,453 --> 00:37:00,413 Speaker 3: done you mate for looking in hindsight and hope things 682 00:37:00,493 --> 00:37:02,772 Speaker 3: get better for your back. Unfortunately, the ads are coming 683 00:37:02,773 --> 00:37:05,453 Speaker 3: in like a stream steam trainer. Yeah, what a great call. 684 00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:06,772 Speaker 3: But it is seven to two. 685 00:37:08,413 --> 00:37:12,053 Speaker 1: Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty 686 00:37:12,093 --> 00:37:16,573 Speaker 1: ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News TALKSB. 687 00:37:17,413 --> 00:37:19,453 Speaker 2: News Talks there B. It is four to two this 688 00:37:19,613 --> 00:37:21,613 Speaker 2: texture on the rules of divorce. The rules are thus 689 00:37:21,613 --> 00:37:26,732 Speaker 2: spellas nothing on socials. Give the ex everything you have, well, 690 00:37:26,853 --> 00:37:30,293 Speaker 2: don't tell the kids anything, Get out and drink with 691 00:37:30,333 --> 00:37:33,293 Speaker 2: your mates. If visually you will be good to go again. 692 00:37:33,573 --> 00:37:35,813 Speaker 2: Get a new missus Rinse and repreat until you calm 693 00:37:35,853 --> 00:37:38,212 Speaker 2: down with age and get the one you're always meant 694 00:37:38,213 --> 00:37:40,693 Speaker 2: to be with. Mind you only a year and with 695 00:37:40,733 --> 00:37:43,213 Speaker 2: the current one could blow up at any time. Like 696 00:37:43,333 --> 00:37:46,413 Speaker 2: the show cost that sounds like some wild advice subs out. 697 00:37:46,413 --> 00:37:49,253 Speaker 3: Well done. It's playing out for you, mate, but it's cheapers, 698 00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:51,333 Speaker 3: not for the faint hearted your life. Go for the 699 00:37:51,333 --> 00:37:54,133 Speaker 3: ex everything, yeah and quickly this one get our guys. 700 00:37:54,173 --> 00:37:55,772 Speaker 3: I watched my parents go through a divorce at thirteen 701 00:37:55,853 --> 00:37:58,093 Speaker 3: years old. I saw the raw end of the deal 702 00:37:58,133 --> 00:38:01,053 Speaker 3: my dad was getting and didn't believe in the slagging off. 703 00:38:01,053 --> 00:38:02,893 Speaker 3: Decided to live with him and stead. Best thing I 704 00:38:02,973 --> 00:38:05,573 Speaker 3: ever did in our relationship is fantastic. 705 00:38:05,173 --> 00:38:05,293 Speaker 13: Was it? 706 00:38:05,373 --> 00:38:07,613 Speaker 2: Chris Rocks said that marriage is just giving someone you 707 00:38:07,693 --> 00:38:08,212 Speaker 2: hate house. 708 00:38:09,133 --> 00:38:12,093 Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, yeah, not a bad line, right. New 709 00:38:12,213 --> 00:38:15,733 Speaker 3: Sport and Weather is fast approaching the great to have 710 00:38:15,813 --> 00:38:18,493 Speaker 3: your company. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. You stay 711 00:38:18,573 --> 00:38:20,853 Speaker 3: right here because we will be back very soon. 712 00:38:27,893 --> 00:38:32,093 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 713 00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:36,093 Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoon 714 00:38:36,293 --> 00:38:39,692 Speaker 1: Squid Shodder News Talk said, be very. 715 00:38:39,613 --> 00:38:41,893 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Chier, Welcome back, into the show. It is 716 00:38:42,013 --> 00:38:45,253 Speaker 3: six past term. We have been talking about defour I divorced. 717 00:38:45,253 --> 00:38:46,413 Speaker 3: What is the best way to get through it? 718 00:38:46,653 --> 00:38:48,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, And before we move on to that, I just 719 00:38:48,293 --> 00:38:51,093 Speaker 2: need to address the text that came in. Where is it? 720 00:38:52,293 --> 00:38:52,733 Speaker 3: Oh? 721 00:38:52,773 --> 00:38:55,893 Speaker 2: Oh my god, my goodness, where is it? This is 722 00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:59,413 Speaker 2: a text I've got to I need to address this text. 723 00:38:59,733 --> 00:39:03,093 Speaker 2: But I cannot find that. This is an absolute disaster. 724 00:39:03,613 --> 00:39:04,693 Speaker 3: Was a doozy h. 725 00:39:06,693 --> 00:39:11,933 Speaker 2: It was complaining about, oh my god, oh this is 726 00:39:11,973 --> 00:39:13,533 Speaker 2: this all love with me for a long time that 727 00:39:13,573 --> 00:39:15,373 Speaker 2: I can't find this text. Oh here, it is. 728 00:39:18,293 --> 00:39:18,453 Speaker 14: Here. 729 00:39:18,493 --> 00:39:21,172 Speaker 2: It is so many texts come in. You gotta, you gotta. 730 00:39:21,253 --> 00:39:24,093 Speaker 2: You've got to put them aside carefully and mark them. Tyler, 731 00:39:24,213 --> 00:39:24,453 Speaker 2: you do. 732 00:39:24,773 --> 00:39:26,333 Speaker 3: Hundreds and thousands come in. 733 00:39:26,413 --> 00:39:27,853 Speaker 2: You can't just leave them in the sea and then 734 00:39:27,853 --> 00:39:29,293 Speaker 2: try and find them when you need them. Now, this 735 00:39:29,373 --> 00:39:31,773 Speaker 2: six says I have loved your show three weeks in 736 00:39:31,773 --> 00:39:33,573 Speaker 2: a row, Matt and Tyler. But once again I find 737 00:39:33,573 --> 00:39:35,933 Speaker 2: myself back where I was with you guys a month ago, 738 00:39:36,013 --> 00:39:40,453 Speaker 2: angry and confused. Okay, Matt said Tyler. No, Matt said, 739 00:39:40,453 --> 00:39:45,053 Speaker 2: marriage is just giving someone you hate a house. It 740 00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:48,493 Speaker 2: is much more than that. It is love. It is family, 741 00:39:48,653 --> 00:39:51,013 Speaker 2: it is commitment. It is the most important institution and 742 00:39:51,093 --> 00:39:53,093 Speaker 2: unit in our society. I feel for you if you 743 00:39:53,173 --> 00:39:56,413 Speaker 2: think it is just giving a person you hate a house. Well, look, 744 00:39:56,613 --> 00:40:00,413 Speaker 2: in my defense, I was saying that that's what Chris 745 00:40:00,453 --> 00:40:03,533 Speaker 2: Rock said. That Chris Rock said that isn't marriage just 746 00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:06,053 Speaker 2: giving someone you hate a house? I was just quoting him. Well, 747 00:40:06,053 --> 00:40:08,133 Speaker 2: no comedian tuns out. I wasn't even quoting him because 748 00:40:08,133 --> 00:40:11,373 Speaker 2: any said that, right, It's okay. It was Russell Crowe's 749 00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:15,813 Speaker 2: character and the fantastic twenty sixteen Shane Black movie Nice Guys. 750 00:40:16,093 --> 00:40:18,573 Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, you should see that show 751 00:40:18,853 --> 00:40:21,013 Speaker 2: and the exact of that movie. It's such a great movie. 752 00:40:21,013 --> 00:40:21,253 Speaker 13: It is. 753 00:40:21,293 --> 00:40:24,212 Speaker 2: It's a very very funny movie. And in that movie 754 00:40:24,293 --> 00:40:26,373 Speaker 2: the character says marriage is buying a house for someone 755 00:40:26,413 --> 00:40:29,773 Speaker 2: you hate. But Rod Stewart famously also said instead of 756 00:40:29,773 --> 00:40:31,813 Speaker 2: getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I 757 00:40:31,853 --> 00:40:34,013 Speaker 2: don't like and just give her a house. So it's 758 00:40:34,013 --> 00:40:36,293 Speaker 2: been said by another number of people, but never by 759 00:40:36,373 --> 00:40:38,813 Speaker 2: Chris Rock, and I disagree with all of it. I 760 00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:41,373 Speaker 2: think marriage and family is a beautiful thing. If you 761 00:40:41,373 --> 00:40:46,453 Speaker 2: can make it work, everything's in your favor if you 762 00:40:46,573 --> 00:40:50,252 Speaker 2: managed to have a successful marriage. You know, study after 763 00:40:50,293 --> 00:40:54,933 Speaker 2: study finds that the healthiest, happiest, and wealthiest people are married. Yep, 764 00:40:54,973 --> 00:40:58,533 Speaker 2: in long term relationships. A happy marriage is an amazing 765 00:40:58,573 --> 00:41:02,252 Speaker 2: state of being and worth working hard for. I would say, yes, yeah, 766 00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:04,893 Speaker 2: I think that's what Chross Rock thinks about it. I mean, 767 00:41:04,893 --> 00:41:06,053 Speaker 2: he's talked a lot about divorce. 768 00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:08,772 Speaker 3: He has, he's been through a couple himself. I think 769 00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:13,533 Speaker 3: you know what knows me through one major one, I believe. Yeah. 770 00:41:13,693 --> 00:41:15,933 Speaker 2: Ah, there is a quote from Chris Rock about marriage 771 00:41:15,933 --> 00:41:17,373 Speaker 2: that's just in the back of my mind. I'll work 772 00:41:17,373 --> 00:41:17,773 Speaker 2: on that one. 773 00:41:17,773 --> 00:41:20,413 Speaker 3: It's all content when you're a comedian. But thank you 774 00:41:20,533 --> 00:41:22,653 Speaker 3: very much to everyone who text and phoned. 775 00:41:22,693 --> 00:41:26,373 Speaker 2: Oh he said, there's there. This is what he said. 776 00:41:26,413 --> 00:41:26,813 Speaker 3: Here we go. 777 00:41:26,973 --> 00:41:31,533 Speaker 2: There's five hundred thousand marriages a year divorce sorry, there's 778 00:41:31,573 --> 00:41:34,133 Speaker 2: five hundred roughly. This is roughly what it is. There's 779 00:41:34,133 --> 00:41:36,773 Speaker 2: five hundred thousand divorces a year in the United States. 780 00:41:36,893 --> 00:41:39,173 Speaker 2: And that's only the ones with the guts to go 781 00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:40,973 Speaker 2: through of it. The rest of them are just cowards 782 00:41:40,973 --> 00:41:41,493 Speaker 2: that haven't got. 783 00:41:41,413 --> 00:41:43,893 Speaker 3: Round to it yet. Yeah, that sounds like Chris Rock. 784 00:41:44,013 --> 00:41:46,013 Speaker 3: Something like that yeah, very good. Hey, thank you to 785 00:41:46,053 --> 00:41:49,773 Speaker 3: everybody who called and text on that discussion. We want 786 00:41:49,813 --> 00:41:52,373 Speaker 3: to move on though, we want to even talk about cryptocurrencies. 787 00:41:52,373 --> 00:41:54,493 Speaker 3: It was after a story in the Herald about the 788 00:41:54,493 --> 00:41:58,093 Speaker 3: investigation into the murder of an Auckland courier driver. Very 789 00:41:58,293 --> 00:42:01,293 Speaker 3: sordid situation, this one. So the story reports that more 790 00:42:01,293 --> 00:42:05,333 Speaker 3: than six million dollars in crypto currency was transferred through 791 00:42:05,373 --> 00:42:07,893 Speaker 3: accounts linked to a thirty five year old man who's 792 00:42:07,933 --> 00:42:11,093 Speaker 3: now over the twenty twenty four shooting of Tuoi a 793 00:42:11,173 --> 00:42:14,493 Speaker 3: palazzo VI, highlighting a suspected connection between the killing and 794 00:42:14,653 --> 00:42:18,573 Speaker 3: organized criminal activity. But it is the first time I 795 00:42:18,693 --> 00:42:22,453 Speaker 3: have a scene or heard cryptocurrency in a headline for 796 00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:27,093 Speaker 3: some time. As many people would know, bitcoin dropped off 797 00:42:27,133 --> 00:42:30,053 Speaker 3: a cliff last October. It was riding a high of 798 00:42:30,093 --> 00:42:33,573 Speaker 3: around two hundred thousand New Zealand dollars a coin, if 799 00:42:33,573 --> 00:42:35,773 Speaker 3: that's what you want to say, and it's now dropped 800 00:42:35,813 --> 00:42:38,333 Speaker 3: down to I think it's boosting back up a little bit, 801 00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:40,573 Speaker 3: but it's dropped down to about one hundred and fifteen 802 00:42:40,653 --> 00:42:43,893 Speaker 3: thousand per coin. So very rarely these days would you 803 00:42:43,893 --> 00:42:45,893 Speaker 3: see it pop up in the headlines. Clearly it's having 804 00:42:45,893 --> 00:42:47,893 Speaker 3: a bit of a tough time at the moment, and 805 00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:50,333 Speaker 3: it is still handy for criminals and black market dealings. 806 00:42:50,333 --> 00:42:52,533 Speaker 3: But is it still a big thing in the world 807 00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:53,732 Speaker 3: of investments? 808 00:42:54,813 --> 00:42:58,813 Speaker 2: Are you in the know in the world of crypto 809 00:42:59,013 --> 00:43:01,573 Speaker 2: and can you tell us what is going on? Why 810 00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:04,333 Speaker 2: it dropped off a cliff, why it's taking so long 811 00:43:04,413 --> 00:43:07,172 Speaker 2: to come back up? Will it come back up at all? 812 00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:11,173 Speaker 2: Talk specifically about bitcorn, but across the bitcoin, but across 813 00:43:11,213 --> 00:43:14,893 Speaker 2: the board. The cryptos crap their bed, didn't they They 814 00:43:14,933 --> 00:43:17,773 Speaker 2: did so te hundred and eighty ten eighty What is 815 00:43:17,813 --> 00:43:20,573 Speaker 2: going on here? Because you're totally right, Tyler, there was 816 00:43:21,013 --> 00:43:23,533 Speaker 2: narrier day that bitcoin wasn't in the news for a while. 817 00:43:23,853 --> 00:43:26,493 Speaker 2: I mean, look what about the Crypto Bowl, the crypto 818 00:43:26,573 --> 00:43:28,453 Speaker 2: super Bowl, not the Super Bowl, but the one before. 819 00:43:28,573 --> 00:43:31,413 Speaker 2: That's right when everything was a crypto ad. Yep, made 820 00:43:31,853 --> 00:43:35,293 Speaker 2: huge stars and then there's been there's been some bankruptcies 821 00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:37,293 Speaker 2: and some of the and some massive fraud and some 822 00:43:37,373 --> 00:43:41,973 Speaker 2: of the big crypto dealers. But just looking here, it 823 00:43:42,053 --> 00:43:46,733 Speaker 2: is slightly coming back. So let's look over. It's up 824 00:43:46,773 --> 00:43:49,413 Speaker 2: five point three two percent over the last week. Bitcoiners 825 00:43:49,413 --> 00:43:52,653 Speaker 2: coming back, So it's it's been been in a big dip. 826 00:43:53,093 --> 00:43:54,813 Speaker 2: So is it just that now is the time to 827 00:43:54,813 --> 00:43:56,493 Speaker 2: get on board? Because a lot of the reason why 828 00:43:56,533 --> 00:43:59,093 Speaker 2: people were getting involved and bitcoin was the fomo right, 829 00:43:59,133 --> 00:44:03,013 Speaker 2: they thought that they'd missed out. But then you go, oh, 830 00:44:03,053 --> 00:44:06,813 Speaker 2: it's too late. But will it come back up? What 831 00:44:06,853 --> 00:44:10,293 Speaker 2: are the theories on that? Because surely if it's dropped 832 00:44:10,333 --> 00:44:12,213 Speaker 2: low by low sale high. 833 00:44:12,013 --> 00:44:15,133 Speaker 3: Yes, it's always the investment advice. But you're right. I mean, 834 00:44:15,173 --> 00:44:17,373 Speaker 3: I remember the chat when it was about thirty thousand 835 00:44:17,413 --> 00:44:19,853 Speaker 3: dollars New Zealand and a lot of analytid it will 836 00:44:19,853 --> 00:44:22,172 Speaker 3: never go higher than that, No way will it go up. 837 00:44:22,213 --> 00:44:25,373 Speaker 3: And it continued to skyrocket up until two hundred thousand dollars. 838 00:44:25,453 --> 00:44:27,933 Speaker 3: So what is happening in the world of cryptocurrencies? Are 839 00:44:27,973 --> 00:44:30,692 Speaker 3: you still knee deep in it? Or is it on 840 00:44:30,733 --> 00:44:33,053 Speaker 3: the way out? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 841 00:44:33,093 --> 00:44:35,773 Speaker 3: that number to call? Nine two ninety two is the text? 842 00:44:36,333 --> 00:44:38,893 Speaker 3: Share your stories, let's get into it. It is twelve past two. 843 00:44:39,613 --> 00:44:44,173 Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams 844 00:44:44,253 --> 00:44:47,732 Speaker 1: afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk, 845 00:44:47,813 --> 00:44:48,173 Speaker 1: said be. 846 00:44:50,333 --> 00:44:52,093 Speaker 3: News talks there be. It is the quarter past too. 847 00:44:52,133 --> 00:44:53,853 Speaker 3: Just a reminder our mates at SCOT I want to 848 00:44:53,853 --> 00:44:56,413 Speaker 3: send you in a friend to experience the Tour de 849 00:44:56,453 --> 00:44:58,253 Speaker 3: France when you play Scoter codes. If you need some 850 00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:01,013 Speaker 3: help with today's clue, keep listening. We will have that 851 00:45:01,093 --> 00:45:04,093 Speaker 3: clue for you before the hour is up. But we 852 00:45:04,133 --> 00:45:07,733 Speaker 3: are talking about cryptocurrency. It was back in the headlines 853 00:45:07,773 --> 00:45:09,333 Speaker 3: today with a bit a sort of case in New 854 00:45:09,413 --> 00:45:13,293 Speaker 3: Zealand a transfer of six million dollars to the person 855 00:45:13,373 --> 00:45:15,693 Speaker 3: alleged to have shot in Auckland Curia driver. But the 856 00:45:15,773 --> 00:45:17,853 Speaker 3: question we've got for you is what is happening in 857 00:45:17,893 --> 00:45:21,413 Speaker 3: the world of cryptocurrency? Are you still heavily involved? Is 858 00:45:21,413 --> 00:45:24,533 Speaker 3: it still worth getting into, particularly now when Bitcoin has 859 00:45:24,613 --> 00:45:29,172 Speaker 3: absolutely fallen off a cliff from last October? Or is 860 00:45:29,213 --> 00:45:31,893 Speaker 3: the days of cryptocurrency coming to an end? O eight 861 00:45:32,013 --> 00:45:34,453 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 862 00:45:34,773 --> 00:45:38,093 Speaker 2: The text says, please, people talk about crypto all the time. 863 00:45:38,133 --> 00:45:41,053 Speaker 2: Can you give me a simple explanation of crypto? What 864 00:45:41,133 --> 00:45:44,053 Speaker 2: cryptocurrency is so I can understand what the how you 865 00:45:44,133 --> 00:45:47,893 Speaker 2: are talking about? Well, cryptocurrency is a digital form of 866 00:45:47,933 --> 00:45:54,613 Speaker 2: money that exists only online and uses cryptography to secure 867 00:45:54,653 --> 00:45:58,253 Speaker 2: transactions and control the creation of new units, right okay. 868 00:45:58,413 --> 00:46:00,453 Speaker 2: Instead of being issued by a government or a bank, 869 00:46:00,493 --> 00:46:03,213 Speaker 2: it is typically run on a decentralized network, which is 870 00:46:03,213 --> 00:46:07,253 Speaker 2: called the blockchain, where transactions are verified by computers around 871 00:46:07,293 --> 00:46:09,293 Speaker 2: the world. Does that help? Is that good explansion of it. 872 00:46:10,373 --> 00:46:12,133 Speaker 3: I'm still a little bit, a little bit fuzzy on 873 00:46:12,173 --> 00:46:14,253 Speaker 3: the situation, but that, I mean, that sums it up. 874 00:46:14,253 --> 00:46:14,973 Speaker 3: I think pretty well. 875 00:46:15,053 --> 00:46:17,893 Speaker 2: You're previously a heavy investor in crypto, haven't you been? 876 00:46:18,013 --> 00:46:19,853 Speaker 3: I was, Yes, I got and what I thought was 877 00:46:19,853 --> 00:46:22,213 Speaker 3: fairly early on the old bitcoin situation. It wasn't a 878 00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:24,292 Speaker 3: hell of a lot of money, but you know, enough 879 00:46:24,333 --> 00:46:26,053 Speaker 3: for me to worry when it started to go down, 880 00:46:26,133 --> 00:46:27,733 Speaker 3: and then it went up. But then I made the 881 00:46:27,773 --> 00:46:33,853 Speaker 3: mistake of getting into other so called cryptocurrencies and actually 882 00:46:33,853 --> 00:46:36,853 Speaker 3: someone mentioned it via text. Where was it kidday? Guys, 883 00:46:36,853 --> 00:46:40,453 Speaker 3: it's not dead, just not you and feshionable anymore. No, 884 00:46:40,573 --> 00:46:43,253 Speaker 3: that wasn't the one, oh right at the top. Come on, 885 00:46:43,453 --> 00:46:45,773 Speaker 3: it's cost a transport crypto too much at the moment 886 00:46:46,333 --> 00:46:49,773 Speaker 3: in the cloud, with the cost of oil barrels. That aside, 887 00:46:49,813 --> 00:46:50,573 Speaker 3: which is fair enough. 888 00:46:51,293 --> 00:46:53,253 Speaker 2: All those coins, yeah, Yeah, you've got to you've got 889 00:46:53,253 --> 00:46:55,133 Speaker 2: a transit between computers. 890 00:46:55,213 --> 00:46:57,652 Speaker 3: Yes, they're heavy, they are heavy. But where I went 891 00:46:57,693 --> 00:47:00,253 Speaker 3: wrong was there's another cryptocurrency, and if you're in the know, 892 00:47:00,413 --> 00:47:02,893 Speaker 3: you'd know it. Ethereum is what it was called. And 893 00:47:02,973 --> 00:47:06,493 Speaker 3: I didn't realize every time you shifted ethereum between these 894 00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:09,813 Speaker 3: digital wallets, it cost you a pretty penny every time. 895 00:47:09,653 --> 00:47:10,293 Speaker 2: He moved it. 896 00:47:10,413 --> 00:47:13,773 Speaker 3: So when I changed all my bitcoin to this new cryptocurrency, 897 00:47:14,133 --> 00:47:17,013 Speaker 3: slowly but surely, I just started to drain my accounts 898 00:47:17,173 --> 00:47:19,973 Speaker 3: just from moving it place to place until I basically 899 00:47:19,973 --> 00:47:20,613 Speaker 3: had none left. 900 00:47:22,893 --> 00:47:25,933 Speaker 2: That's a story I could have, should have would a story. Yeah, 901 00:47:25,973 --> 00:47:30,093 Speaker 2: this business says, listen up. The crackdowns on the exchanges, 902 00:47:30,813 --> 00:47:34,533 Speaker 2: the evil governments have destroyed it. The compliance requirements are crazy. 903 00:47:34,573 --> 00:47:38,093 Speaker 2: Now there's been tax enforcement brought in, restrictions on retail access, 904 00:47:38,373 --> 00:47:40,652 Speaker 2: and a bunch of regions. So it was killed by 905 00:47:40,653 --> 00:47:43,213 Speaker 2: the powers at b That's interesting they say that because 906 00:47:43,293 --> 00:47:45,373 Speaker 2: other people are saying that the US government is now 907 00:47:45,373 --> 00:47:48,333 Speaker 2: the third biggest holder of crypto in the world. Yeah, 908 00:47:48,453 --> 00:47:50,573 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not sure if that is one hundred 909 00:47:50,573 --> 00:47:51,013 Speaker 2: percent tury. 910 00:47:51,493 --> 00:47:53,453 Speaker 3: But when they I mean, obviously they brought in the 911 00:47:53,853 --> 00:47:56,013 Speaker 3: tax for cryptocurrency here in New Zealand, and I don't 912 00:47:56,013 --> 00:47:57,813 Speaker 3: actually know how that works, but that would have put 913 00:47:57,813 --> 00:48:01,212 Speaker 3: a few people off. But I went hundred eighties lovely cool. 914 00:48:01,253 --> 00:48:03,453 Speaker 2: The wife still doesn't know I went all in on NFTs. 915 00:48:05,213 --> 00:48:08,773 Speaker 3: You poor bugger man. That was the time NFTs. How 916 00:48:08,773 --> 00:48:09,053 Speaker 3: are you? 917 00:48:09,813 --> 00:48:11,133 Speaker 14: I'm great, guys, Are you good? 918 00:48:11,253 --> 00:48:12,813 Speaker 3: Nice to chat with you so you can give us 919 00:48:12,853 --> 00:48:15,373 Speaker 3: a bit of an update on what's happening with cryptocurrencies. 920 00:48:16,293 --> 00:48:19,253 Speaker 14: Yeah, sure. Something that I follow quite a bit is 921 00:48:19,573 --> 00:48:21,973 Speaker 14: what's happening in the States with the current legislation. So 922 00:48:22,973 --> 00:48:25,413 Speaker 14: we obviously have the Bitcoin and ethereum and all the 923 00:48:25,533 --> 00:48:28,813 Speaker 14: millions of other cryptos like you guys have mentioned, but 924 00:48:29,093 --> 00:48:31,253 Speaker 14: one of the big things moving through the States right 925 00:48:31,293 --> 00:48:35,732 Speaker 14: now is about stable coins. And so essentially what these 926 00:48:35,773 --> 00:48:42,333 Speaker 14: are are essentially coins that are pegged to the US dollar, 927 00:48:43,173 --> 00:48:43,652 Speaker 14: but in. 928 00:48:43,573 --> 00:48:45,652 Speaker 1: A digital form right. 929 00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:50,212 Speaker 14: And essentially essentially what they are, they're currently backed by 930 00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:55,093 Speaker 14: private companies, so it's not a CBDC like you might 931 00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:58,213 Speaker 14: have heard about in the past, which is basically issued 932 00:48:58,253 --> 00:49:03,573 Speaker 14: by a central government, but nonetheless they are backed quite 933 00:49:03,613 --> 00:49:05,413 Speaker 14: often by US treasuries and things like that. 934 00:49:05,933 --> 00:49:08,253 Speaker 2: So what is the advantage in being tied to the 935 00:49:08,653 --> 00:49:10,813 Speaker 2: to the US dollar, John Jason. 936 00:49:11,973 --> 00:49:15,652 Speaker 14: Uh, basically it gives somebody essentially the same function as 937 00:49:15,653 --> 00:49:20,653 Speaker 14: the US dollar, the same essentially whatever the system provides 938 00:49:20,693 --> 00:49:24,453 Speaker 14: for that mechanism. But essentially they can use this, uh, 939 00:49:25,373 --> 00:49:28,253 Speaker 14: like the US dollar, but they don't actually have to 940 00:49:28,293 --> 00:49:29,373 Speaker 14: have a bank account. 941 00:49:30,093 --> 00:49:30,213 Speaker 15: Right. 942 00:49:31,013 --> 00:49:34,173 Speaker 14: Something quite progressive right now that's happening, Uh, with the 943 00:49:34,173 --> 00:49:37,773 Speaker 14: intersection of AI and crypto is there's things called AI agents, 944 00:49:37,853 --> 00:49:43,652 Speaker 14: and people are essentially giving the agent's wallets because they 945 00:49:43,693 --> 00:49:46,853 Speaker 14: can't have bank accounts, and then the agents can basically 946 00:49:47,333 --> 00:49:50,933 Speaker 14: essentially act on behalf of the owner and go purchase things. 947 00:49:51,573 --> 00:49:56,693 Speaker 2: So is the no bank account thing is for a 948 00:49:56,773 --> 00:49:59,333 Speaker 2: legal activity or just people that don't want to run 949 00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:01,652 Speaker 2: a bank account don't want the phase? What is the 950 00:50:01,693 --> 00:50:04,693 Speaker 2: no bank account advantage? When these these uh, they what 951 00:50:04,733 --> 00:50:07,413 Speaker 2: do you call them staple stable coins that are attached 952 00:50:07,413 --> 00:50:08,252 Speaker 2: to the US dollar. 953 00:50:09,733 --> 00:50:12,853 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean essentially allow someone like, for example, in 954 00:50:12,933 --> 00:50:18,253 Speaker 14: a really high inflationary you know country like Venezuela or Argentina, 955 00:50:18,813 --> 00:50:21,333 Speaker 14: they can essentially, you know, if you travel there quite 956 00:50:21,373 --> 00:50:23,732 Speaker 14: often they would want the US dollar in the cash form. 957 00:50:24,093 --> 00:50:25,853 Speaker 14: They can essentially have the same thing now in a 958 00:50:25,893 --> 00:50:26,973 Speaker 14: digital form. 959 00:50:27,413 --> 00:50:31,053 Speaker 2: Right, right, And so with this, you know, the AI wallets, 960 00:50:31,093 --> 00:50:34,853 Speaker 2: does that take some of the because I mean, bitcoin 961 00:50:35,013 --> 00:50:40,533 Speaker 2: was was no small part fueled by fomo people feeling 962 00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:42,613 Speaker 2: like they'd missed out so they needed to get on 963 00:50:42,693 --> 00:50:44,733 Speaker 2: at some point, and it felt like it was going 964 00:50:44,773 --> 00:50:45,933 Speaker 2: to go up and up and up and up. And 965 00:50:46,253 --> 00:50:50,213 Speaker 2: obviously it has had its crushes crashes, but does does 966 00:50:50,453 --> 00:50:55,013 Speaker 2: these AI agents running these wallets, does that take that 967 00:50:55,093 --> 00:50:57,093 Speaker 2: emotion out of it to a certain extent and keep 968 00:50:57,173 --> 00:50:58,293 Speaker 2: the price lower. 969 00:51:00,293 --> 00:51:02,093 Speaker 14: It's kind of hard to predict what the price of 970 00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:04,893 Speaker 14: bitcoin is going to do, of course, but you can 971 00:51:05,013 --> 00:51:08,172 Speaker 14: essentially give your agent a stable coin if you will. 972 00:51:08,173 --> 00:51:10,253 Speaker 14: So if you want to transact in stable coin pick 973 00:51:10,293 --> 00:51:12,652 Speaker 14: to the US dollar, you can do that, or you 974 00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:16,293 Speaker 14: can potentially use bitcoin or another cryptocurrency, you know, depending 975 00:51:16,293 --> 00:51:19,373 Speaker 14: on your own particular you know, belief system, which whatever 976 00:51:19,413 --> 00:51:22,173 Speaker 14: one you follow. So it's really up to the individual 977 00:51:22,213 --> 00:51:23,732 Speaker 14: to do it. There's some people that are like pure 978 00:51:23,773 --> 00:51:26,253 Speaker 14: bitcoin and they only want to transact on that, and 979 00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,293 Speaker 14: others are happy just to use you know, a stable 980 00:51:28,293 --> 00:51:30,933 Speaker 14: coin on top of ethereum or Solana for example. 981 00:51:31,493 --> 00:51:34,413 Speaker 2: Right, And what about the main coin situation because I 982 00:51:34,973 --> 00:51:37,133 Speaker 2: sort of just assumed that the main coins are just 983 00:51:37,693 --> 00:51:40,893 Speaker 2: undermined the entire entire thing. When you've got the hookta 984 00:51:40,973 --> 00:51:42,573 Speaker 2: girl putting out a coin. 985 00:51:42,813 --> 00:51:43,172 Speaker 14: Good call. 986 00:51:43,293 --> 00:51:46,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing seems a bit dodgy. 987 00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:48,933 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, the mean coin is like a pop 988 00:51:48,973 --> 00:51:51,653 Speaker 14: culture thing. And you mentioned the NFT thing briefly before. 989 00:51:51,973 --> 00:51:53,773 Speaker 14: It's kind of in that genre. You're kind of just 990 00:51:53,813 --> 00:51:56,093 Speaker 14: betting on like a popular thing like the Trump coin. 991 00:51:56,133 --> 00:51:58,373 Speaker 14: A lot of people said, kind of kill the crypto 992 00:51:58,453 --> 00:52:00,133 Speaker 14: thing for a little while. It sucked a lot of 993 00:52:00,493 --> 00:52:03,692 Speaker 14: you know, I've gotten I've gotten wrecked on mean points 994 00:52:03,693 --> 00:52:05,373 Speaker 14: as well. You know, I take my place with my 995 00:52:05,413 --> 00:52:06,773 Speaker 14: bits in here and there, you know, But I think 996 00:52:06,773 --> 00:52:09,613 Speaker 14: you just need to go into it with that. So yeah, 997 00:52:09,613 --> 00:52:10,933 Speaker 14: it's kind of like more of a bet on pop 998 00:52:10,973 --> 00:52:11,693 Speaker 14: culture I guess. 999 00:52:11,893 --> 00:52:13,813 Speaker 2: So what the mean coin? Can you explain this to me? 1000 00:52:13,853 --> 00:52:17,133 Speaker 2: Because my understanding is everyone knows that a mean coin 1001 00:52:17,213 --> 00:52:21,213 Speaker 2: will crash, it's just who gets out first. Does that correct? Jason? 1002 00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:25,293 Speaker 14: Pretty much true. I Mean there's something called a rug pull, 1003 00:52:25,813 --> 00:52:28,533 Speaker 14: and that's pretty much where someone will create the mean coin, 1004 00:52:28,893 --> 00:52:30,453 Speaker 14: try to pump it up and then just dump the 1005 00:52:30,453 --> 00:52:32,893 Speaker 14: thing on you so, but you know, if you look 1006 00:52:32,893 --> 00:52:35,533 Speaker 14: at something like the original first mean coin was doge coin, 1007 00:52:35,653 --> 00:52:37,893 Speaker 14: and ye's still around. I mean, and you know I 1008 00:52:38,173 --> 00:52:40,853 Speaker 14: need I say on the air, fart coin actually exists 1009 00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:42,853 Speaker 14: as well, has time. 1010 00:52:44,653 --> 00:52:45,413 Speaker 3: Unbelievably. 1011 00:52:45,573 --> 00:52:49,773 Speaker 14: Fart Coin actually, at many points through stakehole the last 1012 00:52:49,893 --> 00:52:52,252 Speaker 14: year or so actually was worth more than probably any 1013 00:52:52,253 --> 00:52:53,453 Speaker 14: new Ze owned company. 1014 00:52:53,093 --> 00:52:55,772 Speaker 3: Which ridiculous coin. 1015 00:52:56,573 --> 00:52:58,333 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I'm a millionaire in fart coin. 1016 00:52:58,413 --> 00:53:01,813 Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, that's crazy. 1017 00:53:02,053 --> 00:53:04,213 Speaker 3: Do you think it is still speculative for most people, 1018 00:53:04,293 --> 00:53:06,973 Speaker 3: Jason that you mentioned you know, bitcoin obviously run knows 1019 00:53:06,973 --> 00:53:08,652 Speaker 3: the Theoryum I think is another well known on one 1020 00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:12,133 Speaker 3: Solana you mentioned before. But do you think most traders 1021 00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:16,453 Speaker 3: really understand what those different you know, operations do or 1022 00:53:16,453 --> 00:53:18,253 Speaker 3: they're just speculating the hope that it's going to be 1023 00:53:18,293 --> 00:53:19,293 Speaker 3: the next next big thing. 1024 00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:22,813 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'd say it's a combination, to be honest. I mean, like, 1025 00:53:23,053 --> 00:53:25,373 Speaker 14: I'm not a trader personally, Some they don't the traders 1026 00:53:25,493 --> 00:53:27,613 Speaker 14: might not really care what they're trading, they're just watching charts, 1027 00:53:28,133 --> 00:53:31,453 Speaker 14: whilst others might like actually look at the technical aspects 1028 00:53:31,693 --> 00:53:34,093 Speaker 14: or you know, some of the like the theory or 1029 00:53:34,133 --> 00:53:37,053 Speaker 14: policy behind it and then decide to do that. So yeah, 1030 00:53:37,053 --> 00:53:39,133 Speaker 14: I mean, of course there's speculation, just like with stocks 1031 00:53:39,213 --> 00:53:41,893 Speaker 14: or anything like that. But I think, you know, watching 1032 00:53:41,893 --> 00:53:44,333 Speaker 14: everything come out of the States and the movement with 1033 00:53:44,333 --> 00:53:47,933 Speaker 14: with all the legislation as well as the tech progressing 1034 00:53:48,013 --> 00:53:50,453 Speaker 14: with AI and intersection of that, I think, you know, 1035 00:53:50,733 --> 00:53:52,252 Speaker 14: there's definitely gonna be some winners here. 1036 00:53:52,853 --> 00:53:57,893 Speaker 2: Did the crash of companies like ft X does that 1037 00:53:57,973 --> 00:54:01,493 Speaker 2: have an effect on the credibility or how safe people 1038 00:54:01,613 --> 00:54:03,573 Speaker 2: feel investing in crypto? 1039 00:54:04,013 --> 00:54:04,732 Speaker 1: One percent? 1040 00:54:04,893 --> 00:54:08,333 Speaker 14: I mean, obviously, you know there's been time to scam 1041 00:54:08,573 --> 00:54:10,653 Speaker 14: and a lot of people just associate them for a 1042 00:54:10,693 --> 00:54:12,893 Speaker 14: crypto with the scam. And you know, I'm kind of 1043 00:54:12,893 --> 00:54:15,453 Speaker 14: more on the Bitcoin MAXI side. I'd say there's bitcoin 1044 00:54:15,493 --> 00:54:18,573 Speaker 14: and then there's crypto, So you know what I mean, Like, 1045 00:54:19,253 --> 00:54:21,013 Speaker 14: there's something came out that you mentioned that in the 1046 00:54:21,013 --> 00:54:23,292 Speaker 14: meme coins. It was called pump fun and basically allowed 1047 00:54:23,333 --> 00:54:25,253 Speaker 14: anyone to create a meme coin. So that kind of 1048 00:54:25,293 --> 00:54:28,013 Speaker 14: just like destroyed the kind of that whole aspect of it. 1049 00:54:28,453 --> 00:54:30,653 Speaker 14: But yeah, I mean, with anything, do your own research 1050 00:54:30,853 --> 00:54:32,853 Speaker 14: and you know, just look into it and you know, 1051 00:54:32,933 --> 00:54:36,573 Speaker 14: make an informed decision and personally, I believe bitcoin's like 1052 00:54:36,573 --> 00:54:40,172 Speaker 14: a long term kind of generational wealth type of story 1053 00:54:40,173 --> 00:54:43,653 Speaker 14: of value. It competes with gold in that respect sometimes. 1054 00:54:43,573 --> 00:54:46,173 Speaker 2: So would now be a good time. I mean, no 1055 00:54:46,213 --> 00:54:49,133 Speaker 2: one likes to get financial advice, and no one knows 1056 00:54:48,693 --> 00:54:52,133 Speaker 2: that it's obviously, as you see it before, no very 1057 00:54:52,173 --> 00:54:56,453 Speaker 2: hard to predict. AI agents with wallets are running around, 1058 00:54:56,533 --> 00:55:00,093 Speaker 2: they're not able to protect. But it's low at the 1059 00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:05,252 Speaker 2: moment comparatively, I mean not it's still massively valuable. But yeah, 1060 00:55:05,333 --> 00:55:11,533 Speaker 2: as time now a reason time to invest in bitcoin. 1061 00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:17,093 Speaker 14: Again, not financial advices, entertainment purposes here, I come from 1062 00:55:17,213 --> 00:55:20,733 Speaker 14: the US originally, but yeah, I mean it's if you 1063 00:55:20,893 --> 00:55:23,533 Speaker 14: if you look into it, there's cycles, and some people 1064 00:55:23,573 --> 00:55:26,252 Speaker 14: believe in a four year cycle that has to interestingly 1065 00:55:26,333 --> 00:55:30,253 Speaker 14: align with the presidential elections in the United States, or 1066 00:55:30,293 --> 00:55:32,333 Speaker 14: it could be doue with something called the having schedule. 1067 00:55:32,453 --> 00:55:36,413 Speaker 14: But I guess you know, historically pretty much anyone who's 1068 00:55:36,493 --> 00:55:38,413 Speaker 14: bought nitcoin and hell for at least four or five 1069 00:55:38,493 --> 00:55:40,573 Speaker 14: years is still in the still is still in the green. 1070 00:55:40,653 --> 00:55:42,533 Speaker 14: So they're still good. So you know, I think it's 1071 00:55:42,573 --> 00:55:44,933 Speaker 14: like it now's a good time. I would say to 1072 00:55:44,933 --> 00:55:47,253 Speaker 14: go kind of do some research and make your own decision. 1073 00:55:47,493 --> 00:55:50,652 Speaker 2: Good on you, Jason for being so responsible with that. 1074 00:55:51,133 --> 00:55:53,893 Speaker 3: So, yeah, to an irresponsible question, you're looking after us, 1075 00:55:53,933 --> 00:55:55,973 Speaker 3: you're keeping the lawyers away, Yeah exactly. 1076 00:55:56,093 --> 00:55:56,293 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1077 00:55:56,373 --> 00:55:57,173 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1078 00:55:57,213 --> 00:55:59,733 Speaker 2: It's a lot easier to buy bitcoin than it was 1079 00:55:59,973 --> 00:56:03,253 Speaker 2: at the start. I mean Cheersy's. You can buy bitcoin 1080 00:56:03,293 --> 00:56:03,813 Speaker 2: on Cheersy's. 1081 00:56:03,853 --> 00:56:04,373 Speaker 3: Yeah you can. 1082 00:56:04,533 --> 00:56:07,333 Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's there's a New Zealand operation that that's 1083 00:56:07,373 --> 00:56:10,133 Speaker 2: selling it. So, you know, I wonder if that the 1084 00:56:10,173 --> 00:56:12,493 Speaker 2: fact that there's that much access to it will have 1085 00:56:12,533 --> 00:56:14,933 Speaker 2: an effect on the price of it going forward. 1086 00:56:15,133 --> 00:56:18,013 Speaker 3: Hey, thank you so much, Jason, great col thank you 1087 00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:20,133 Speaker 3: very much. I just had a look at the overall 1088 00:56:20,173 --> 00:56:22,733 Speaker 3: value of fart coin. Two hundred and ten million dollars. 1089 00:56:23,013 --> 00:56:25,293 Speaker 3: That's how much fun coin is worth, two hundred and 1090 00:56:25,373 --> 00:56:27,973 Speaker 3: ten million dollars, not per coin, the entire value of 1091 00:56:28,533 --> 00:56:31,533 Speaker 3: for everybody who's put money into fart coin. That market cap, 1092 00:56:31,573 --> 00:56:32,173 Speaker 3: as they call. 1093 00:56:32,053 --> 00:56:38,933 Speaker 2: It, could anything describe the ridiculousness, the ridiculousness of the 1094 00:56:38,973 --> 00:56:41,933 Speaker 2: world we live in right now. That fart coin is 1095 00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:43,613 Speaker 2: worth over two hundred million dollars. 1096 00:56:43,613 --> 00:56:44,493 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful world. 1097 00:56:44,493 --> 00:56:48,093 Speaker 2: Hey, this textas says, oh God, you told me what 1098 00:56:48,173 --> 00:56:52,013 Speaker 2: cryptocurrency is vaguely. Now you bring up meme coins. What 1099 00:56:52,133 --> 00:56:58,053 Speaker 2: is that? Okay? Right, a mean coin. Look, I'm gonna 1100 00:56:58,053 --> 00:57:00,973 Speaker 2: have to think about this. It's a type of cryptocurrency, right, 1101 00:57:01,973 --> 00:57:04,973 Speaker 2: But it's often around an internet joke. Yes, we just 1102 00:57:05,013 --> 00:57:09,333 Speaker 2: brought up fart coin. It's around a train. It's sort 1103 00:57:09,373 --> 00:57:15,253 Speaker 2: of a cultural thing rather than having a technological innovation 1104 00:57:15,413 --> 00:57:18,213 Speaker 2: to it or whatever. And its value is driven by 1105 00:57:18,293 --> 00:57:22,013 Speaker 2: hype and interest and and I guess social media bars 1106 00:57:22,093 --> 00:57:25,893 Speaker 2: rather than any kind of underlying utility that sums it 1107 00:57:26,013 --> 00:57:30,173 Speaker 2: up nice. So it's it's inflated by the hype, and 1108 00:57:30,733 --> 00:57:34,533 Speaker 2: so the hype can disappear very quickly, yep, the rug pull. Yeah, 1109 00:57:34,573 --> 00:57:36,293 Speaker 2: So people try and jump in on a mean coin 1110 00:57:36,333 --> 00:57:38,333 Speaker 2: when the hype is high and get out, and someone 1111 00:57:38,373 --> 00:57:41,573 Speaker 2: always loses. Although fart coin sounds like a good. 1112 00:57:41,453 --> 00:57:43,773 Speaker 3: Options going very well at the moment, apparently right bag 1113 00:57:43,853 --> 00:57:45,573 Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twenty eight past. 1114 00:57:45,373 --> 00:57:54,093 Speaker 1: Two MATD Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call eighty eight on 1115 00:57:54,253 --> 00:57:55,253 Speaker 1: used Talk zb. 1116 00:57:55,253 --> 00:57:56,933 Speaker 3: Oh, we're talking about cryptocurrencies. 1117 00:57:57,013 --> 00:57:58,493 Speaker 2: That's a good joke for me in there, that is 1118 00:57:58,613 --> 00:57:59,733 Speaker 2: very good till I read it out. 1119 00:57:59,973 --> 00:58:01,453 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can read that one out. 1120 00:58:01,733 --> 00:58:04,373 Speaker 2: There may be laughing. News flash, fark coin just. 1121 00:58:04,373 --> 00:58:07,333 Speaker 3: Shed itself all right, bad in not bad from you? 1122 00:58:07,533 --> 00:58:11,333 Speaker 2: That set's good. I just let rip in an enclosed 1123 00:58:11,373 --> 00:58:15,893 Speaker 2: space and goddamn I need some air. Can I monetize that? No, 1124 00:58:15,973 --> 00:58:16,773 Speaker 2: you can't text it. 1125 00:58:16,853 --> 00:58:16,973 Speaker 5: Come. 1126 00:58:17,053 --> 00:58:20,093 Speaker 2: Look, we trying to have a serious conversations already exist. Mean, 1127 00:58:20,133 --> 00:58:22,613 Speaker 2: coin like trump coin is merely a token, That's right. 1128 00:58:22,653 --> 00:58:24,293 Speaker 2: I don't want to get too much into the weeds. 1129 00:58:24,333 --> 00:58:28,933 Speaker 2: But a coin has its own blockchain. So bitcoin has 1130 00:58:28,973 --> 00:58:33,773 Speaker 2: its own blockchain, its own accounting system, you know, its 1131 00:58:33,773 --> 00:58:40,893 Speaker 2: own not religion, yes, yep, and ethereum is are one 1132 00:58:40,933 --> 00:58:44,853 Speaker 2: of those coins, but it has a certain amount of functionality. 1133 00:58:45,253 --> 00:58:48,173 Speaker 2: So these tokens are built on top of that existing 1134 00:58:48,813 --> 00:58:56,293 Speaker 2: blockchain like ethereum, right, And ethereum has functionality that bitcoin doesn't, right, Yes, 1135 00:58:56,933 --> 00:59:00,813 Speaker 2: So yeah, these tokens are just built upon the blockchain, 1136 00:59:00,933 --> 00:59:01,813 Speaker 2: usually of ethereum. 1137 00:59:02,133 --> 00:59:04,853 Speaker 3: They just tag on and more legitimate one. 1138 00:59:04,973 --> 00:59:07,773 Speaker 2: So that'll be really annoying that explanation to some people 1139 00:59:08,573 --> 00:59:10,493 Speaker 2: the know a lot will be annoyed by that explanation. 1140 00:59:10,533 --> 00:59:12,493 Speaker 2: Probably if people that know nothing about it will also 1141 00:59:12,493 --> 00:59:12,813 Speaker 2: be it. 1142 00:59:12,933 --> 00:59:15,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you want anyone with that. One oh, 1143 00:59:15,413 --> 00:59:17,733 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to 1144 00:59:17,773 --> 00:59:19,293 Speaker 3: call if you want to send to think our net 1145 00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:21,973 Speaker 3: text rather nine two, nine to two is that number. 1146 00:59:22,013 --> 00:59:24,373 Speaker 3: There's a few people pushing back on the old cryptocurrencies, 1147 00:59:24,573 --> 00:59:27,453 Speaker 3: like Craig get A Guys. I will never invest in 1148 00:59:27,493 --> 00:59:30,373 Speaker 3: digital currency because if the world goes tits up, surely 1149 00:59:30,413 --> 00:59:33,813 Speaker 3: digital currency will be worthless or totally vanish. I invest 1150 00:59:33,853 --> 00:59:36,653 Speaker 3: in gold that will never lose its value. Keep those 1151 00:59:36,653 --> 00:59:37,373 Speaker 3: texts coming in. 1152 00:59:37,653 --> 00:59:41,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always this whole sort of apocalyptic thinking. Then 1153 00:59:41,253 --> 00:59:44,213 Speaker 2: everything falls down. You can deal with your gold, but 1154 00:59:44,293 --> 00:59:46,653 Speaker 2: I'm just not sure in the post apocalypt environment you're 1155 00:59:46,653 --> 00:59:48,093 Speaker 2: going to turn up with your block of goal. 1156 00:59:48,213 --> 00:59:51,093 Speaker 3: You can't eat gold. Unfortunately it's shiney, looks nice. 1157 00:59:51,173 --> 00:59:52,693 Speaker 2: I mean, well, we just still want gold. 1158 00:59:52,853 --> 00:59:54,933 Speaker 3: I wouldn't give me some turnips. 1159 00:59:55,053 --> 00:59:59,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, take all your money out of crypto and put 1160 00:59:59,413 --> 01:00:01,053 Speaker 2: it in turnips. That's Tyler's advice. 1161 01:00:01,173 --> 01:00:05,973 Speaker 1: Her lights are coming up, used talk said headlines with. 1162 01:00:06,093 --> 01:00:09,733 Speaker 5: Your Ride, New Zealand's number one tax the app Download 1163 01:00:09,813 --> 01:00:14,173 Speaker 5: your Ride today. New Zealand's fuel levels seemed relatively steady 1164 01:00:14,333 --> 01:00:18,173 Speaker 5: as the Middle East war squeezes global oil sources. As 1165 01:00:18,173 --> 01:00:21,493 Speaker 5: of midnight Sunday, we had forty nine days fuel cover, 1166 01:00:21,853 --> 01:00:26,293 Speaker 5: slightly down from Friday, reflecting normal shipping and consumption patterns. 1167 01:00:27,173 --> 01:00:29,493 Speaker 5: The Trade Minister says he hopes to get the India 1168 01:00:29,613 --> 01:00:33,453 Speaker 5: New Zealand Free Trade Agreement signed and in place before 1169 01:00:33,493 --> 01:00:37,453 Speaker 5: the election. The Drug Foundation says a health ministry plan 1170 01:00:37,613 --> 01:00:41,453 Speaker 5: focusing on early intervention and peers support to prevent and 1171 01:00:41,573 --> 01:00:46,253 Speaker 5: reduce substance abuse is sorely needed and could help prevent overdoses. 1172 01:00:47,373 --> 01:00:52,013 Speaker 5: Fertility Associates has apologized to a family whose frozen embryos 1173 01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:56,093 Speaker 5: in its care went missing last year. Police days Saint 1174 01:00:56,093 --> 01:01:01,013 Speaker 5: Patrick's Day celebrations in Dunedin's student quarter were largely troubled free, 1175 01:01:01,013 --> 01:01:04,533 Speaker 5: but no major issues reported. Officers still had to warn 1176 01:01:04,573 --> 01:01:07,853 Speaker 5: students to stay off roofs, and one man was arrested 1177 01:01:08,053 --> 01:01:12,213 Speaker 5: as of driving intoxicated the wrong way down Malcolm Street. 1178 01:01:13,133 --> 01:01:16,533 Speaker 5: The headen hospital risk that can push older kiwis into 1179 01:01:16,613 --> 01:01:19,253 Speaker 5: rest homes. You can read the full column. It ends 1180 01:01:19,293 --> 01:01:22,373 Speaker 5: at Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adam. 1181 01:01:22,453 --> 01:01:25,133 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty three to three. 1182 01:01:25,133 --> 01:01:28,493 Speaker 3: We're talking about cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin has dropped off a big 1183 01:01:28,493 --> 01:01:31,893 Speaker 3: cliff from October, come a little bit of a rebound. 1184 01:01:31,893 --> 01:01:34,533 Speaker 3: Now they must be listening. Five point two four percent 1185 01:01:34,573 --> 01:01:36,893 Speaker 3: in the last week, let's go, it's going back up. 1186 01:01:37,373 --> 01:01:40,373 Speaker 3: But what is happening in the world of crypto? Five 1187 01:01:40,373 --> 01:01:42,413 Speaker 3: point six is still going up? Okay, they must be 1188 01:01:42,453 --> 01:01:44,253 Speaker 3: less No, I just read it wrong. Oh, okay, five point 1189 01:01:44,253 --> 01:01:46,533 Speaker 3: six sex and last week? Yeah, tracking it live? 1190 01:01:46,573 --> 01:01:48,213 Speaker 2: Actually, if you're mean to give you live update, its 1191 01:01:48,213 --> 01:01:49,533 Speaker 2: would be very punishing to listen to it. 1192 01:01:49,613 --> 01:01:51,893 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we should we chune back in every five minutes 1193 01:01:51,893 --> 01:01:53,933 Speaker 3: and to see what it's doing. But are you still 1194 01:01:53,933 --> 01:01:57,133 Speaker 3: bullish when it comes to cryptocurrencies? Even though it's dropped 1195 01:01:57,133 --> 01:01:59,253 Speaker 3: off a bit of a cliff, it's still worth quite 1196 01:01:59,253 --> 01:02:00,973 Speaker 3: a bit of money per coin, if that's what you 1197 01:02:01,013 --> 01:02:02,933 Speaker 3: want to call it. So are you still all in 1198 01:02:02,973 --> 01:02:06,493 Speaker 3: when it comes to cryptocurrencies or do you think it 1199 01:02:06,533 --> 01:02:09,373 Speaker 3: could be the end of this particular investment trend o? 1200 01:02:09,453 --> 01:02:11,173 Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1201 01:02:11,293 --> 01:02:14,613 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I have annoyed the gold bros. 1202 01:02:16,093 --> 01:02:17,893 Speaker 2: I've annoyed the gold bros. At least gold is a 1203 01:02:17,933 --> 01:02:21,653 Speaker 2: physical thing. What's crypto? When the crap hits the fan, 1204 01:02:21,893 --> 01:02:24,053 Speaker 2: do you walk around with a hard drive saying I 1205 01:02:24,133 --> 01:02:29,253 Speaker 2: have all this crypto? This Texas says everyone knows that 1206 01:02:29,333 --> 01:02:33,773 Speaker 2: the currency of the post apocalypse is oil. Unfortunately we 1207 01:02:33,853 --> 01:02:36,853 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of that. This TIX says gold 1208 01:02:37,013 --> 01:02:39,693 Speaker 2: not a solid investment. You are insane. 1209 01:02:39,853 --> 01:02:40,173 Speaker 1: Matt. 1210 01:02:40,693 --> 01:02:43,973 Speaker 2: Tell that to the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Mayans. Every 1211 01:02:43,973 --> 01:02:47,813 Speaker 2: successful ancient culture treasured gold. I'm not able to tell 1212 01:02:47,853 --> 01:02:49,853 Speaker 2: it to the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Mans. 1213 01:02:49,893 --> 01:02:52,373 Speaker 3: Yeah they gone unfortunately. Yeah, it was a sad said 1214 01:02:52,693 --> 01:02:53,653 Speaker 3: that point. 1215 01:02:54,493 --> 01:02:58,253 Speaker 2: Moses's tabernacle was made with acacia wood overlaid with gold 1216 01:02:58,253 --> 01:02:58,653 Speaker 2: and silver. 1217 01:02:58,853 --> 01:03:01,213 Speaker 3: Okay, good on Moses. He was set up for life, 1218 01:03:01,253 --> 01:03:05,093 Speaker 3: that's true. Yeah, he wasn't into the Promised Land though, 1219 01:03:05,173 --> 01:03:07,733 Speaker 3: was he. If it all goes tit's up, you will 1220 01:03:07,733 --> 01:03:11,293 Speaker 3: be my slave paid well hanging on, they're turned fust 1221 01:03:11,573 --> 01:03:13,973 Speaker 3: You will be my slave paid in gold by me. 1222 01:03:14,093 --> 01:03:14,413 Speaker 1: Matt. 1223 01:03:15,613 --> 01:03:18,933 Speaker 3: I mean, someone's thinking about a mad make scenario very quickly. 1224 01:03:19,053 --> 01:03:20,093 Speaker 2: What is a slave, Tyler? 1225 01:03:20,533 --> 01:03:23,533 Speaker 3: What is a slave someone who works for free? 1226 01:03:23,693 --> 01:03:23,893 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1227 01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:25,893 Speaker 3: So if I will not be if you're paying me 1228 01:03:25,893 --> 01:03:26,213 Speaker 3: in gold. 1229 01:03:26,213 --> 01:03:27,133 Speaker 2: I will not be your slave. 1230 01:03:27,333 --> 01:03:28,053 Speaker 3: That's a great point. 1231 01:03:28,373 --> 01:03:29,173 Speaker 2: I'll be your servant. 1232 01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:31,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll get you'll get paid antivily. 1233 01:03:32,213 --> 01:03:34,693 Speaker 2: You'll be my slave, paid in gold by me. Matt. 1234 01:03:35,453 --> 01:03:38,173 Speaker 3: Keep those things coming in if you're a fan of gold. 1235 01:03:38,413 --> 01:03:40,093 Speaker 3: But oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that 1236 01:03:40,173 --> 01:03:42,733 Speaker 3: number to call if you still need deep in cryptocurrency, 1237 01:03:43,133 --> 01:03:43,893 Speaker 3: get a David. 1238 01:03:45,333 --> 01:03:46,573 Speaker 9: Hey, how are you good? 1239 01:03:47,933 --> 01:03:48,333 Speaker 6: Good? Neil? 1240 01:03:48,373 --> 01:03:50,453 Speaker 9: I invested about a year and a half ago, of course, 1241 01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:55,893 Speaker 9: somebody called XRP Ripple, and yeah, we're started about fifty 1242 01:03:55,933 --> 01:03:57,853 Speaker 9: cents US, and we bought a fair bit of it, 1243 01:03:57,933 --> 01:04:00,813 Speaker 9: and it's like every sort of a few minutes. I'll 1244 01:04:00,893 --> 01:04:03,653 Speaker 9: keep keep checking on it for the first six months, 1245 01:04:03,693 --> 01:04:06,093 Speaker 9: and it's very volatile to go up to go down, 1246 01:04:06,173 --> 01:04:08,693 Speaker 9: and sort of it's not for the faint, hard to 1247 01:04:08,693 --> 01:04:11,733 Speaker 9: pull that way. And then about about a month ago 1248 01:04:11,813 --> 01:04:14,533 Speaker 9: or two months ago, I dropped down to about a 1249 01:04:14,653 --> 01:04:18,933 Speaker 9: dollar a dollar twenty four and there was once to 1250 01:04:19,053 --> 01:04:22,173 Speaker 9: about three dollars eighty, and we bought out fifty cents 1251 01:04:23,453 --> 01:04:25,453 Speaker 9: and then just had enough of it and I dumped 1252 01:04:25,453 --> 01:04:28,133 Speaker 9: my stock about all about a month ago and made 1253 01:04:28,133 --> 01:04:29,773 Speaker 9: a little bit of money on it. We invested about 1254 01:04:29,773 --> 01:04:32,853 Speaker 9: one hundred thousand UITs into it, and it was something 1255 01:04:32,853 --> 01:04:35,053 Speaker 9: that we thought if we lost the money, well so bad. 1256 01:04:35,173 --> 01:04:38,133 Speaker 9: But we walked away with a small profit out of it. 1257 01:04:38,173 --> 01:04:40,773 Speaker 9: But it's just it's just not for the faint hard IPA. 1258 01:04:40,933 --> 01:04:42,093 Speaker 8: Now it's very stressful. 1259 01:04:42,493 --> 01:04:44,573 Speaker 2: So are you what kind of business are you in 1260 01:04:44,653 --> 01:04:46,933 Speaker 2: that you are investing? Are you some kind of financial 1261 01:04:47,013 --> 01:04:48,493 Speaker 2: organization David Or worked for. 1262 01:04:49,173 --> 01:04:51,213 Speaker 9: No. No, I just made a bit of money over 1263 01:04:51,293 --> 01:04:53,053 Speaker 9: the year and made of mine. Just said, oh, I 1264 01:04:53,053 --> 01:04:54,973 Speaker 9: have a look at this and I knew nothing about it. 1265 01:04:54,973 --> 01:04:58,573 Speaker 9: Still don't I still don't get cryptocurrency properly. I thought, 1266 01:04:58,573 --> 01:05:01,453 Speaker 9: I don't understand XRP that well. I just took it 1267 01:05:01,453 --> 01:05:03,773 Speaker 9: a bit of a gamble, and as I say, I 1268 01:05:03,773 --> 01:05:05,693 Speaker 9: could have probably troubled with money if I got out 1269 01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:08,053 Speaker 9: of the right time, prob a little bit more, but 1270 01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:09,933 Speaker 9: a little bit greedy. We thought, we'll just see what 1271 01:05:10,053 --> 01:05:12,173 Speaker 9: else we can get from it, and then I stopped 1272 01:05:12,213 --> 01:05:14,453 Speaker 9: watching on a regular basis. After about a month, I 1273 01:05:14,493 --> 01:05:15,813 Speaker 9: had a look at it and it just had to 1274 01:05:15,813 --> 01:05:18,573 Speaker 9: take a massive tumble, and off said I've had enough. 1275 01:05:18,693 --> 01:05:20,733 Speaker 9: I'm done. 1276 01:05:21,733 --> 01:05:24,133 Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just trying to understand XP as it. As 1277 01:05:24,333 --> 01:05:26,453 Speaker 2: you've just said, you don't understand it. I don't understand either. 1278 01:05:26,493 --> 01:05:28,733 Speaker 2: Someone might better explain it. But is it kind of 1279 01:05:28,773 --> 01:05:35,253 Speaker 2: a bridging coin or a bridging system between other like 1280 01:05:35,653 --> 01:05:39,973 Speaker 2: you know nation currencies? Is that? Is that how it works? 1281 01:05:40,013 --> 01:05:40,213 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1282 01:05:40,253 --> 01:05:43,493 Speaker 9: Okay, it is a so XRP and ripples, So ripples 1283 01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:46,013 Speaker 9: my mindsetting is like a ripples, like if you know 1284 01:05:46,053 --> 01:05:47,733 Speaker 9: what what's like, you know when you put your money 1285 01:05:47,733 --> 01:05:48,213 Speaker 9: trends through. 1286 01:05:48,093 --> 01:05:48,693 Speaker 13: It over season. 1287 01:05:49,133 --> 01:05:51,093 Speaker 9: Okay, so it's going to replace that. So if you 1288 01:05:51,093 --> 01:05:54,813 Speaker 9: didn't use a coin which is a like value at 1289 01:05:54,813 --> 01:05:57,893 Speaker 9: a dollar to a dollar, so a dollar XRP coin 1290 01:05:58,053 --> 01:06:01,213 Speaker 9: would be a dollar UIs dollar. So it has to 1291 01:06:01,253 --> 01:06:04,293 Speaker 9: be make sure it's not a coin that fluctuate. Has 1292 01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:06,973 Speaker 9: to be like a fixed coins it doesn't move, and 1293 01:06:07,013 --> 01:06:09,733 Speaker 9: then you use that to try you then spend you know, 1294 01:06:09,893 --> 01:06:13,093 Speaker 9: like five thousand XRP will be worth five thousand US 1295 01:06:13,173 --> 01:06:16,293 Speaker 9: dollars and you can transfer it through ripple and there's 1296 01:06:16,293 --> 01:06:18,293 Speaker 9: hardly any cost to do it in this instant. So 1297 01:06:18,333 --> 01:06:23,693 Speaker 9: when I transfer XRP or money through XRP, it goes 1298 01:06:23,893 --> 01:06:33,933 Speaker 9: to someone else's account within a nanosecondgible. 1299 01:06:29,773 --> 01:06:32,173 Speaker 2: Technology, so you can invest in the bridge. 1300 01:06:33,733 --> 01:06:36,613 Speaker 9: Yes you can so ripple ticularly what we invest. But 1301 01:06:36,813 --> 01:06:40,973 Speaker 9: there is also an XRP coin and it's a stable coin. 1302 01:06:41,573 --> 01:06:43,973 Speaker 9: So with some of the other coins on the market, uh, 1303 01:06:44,013 --> 01:06:47,093 Speaker 9: and some of them are getting ripple design and there 1304 01:06:48,013 --> 01:06:49,493 Speaker 9: it works on there too. 1305 01:06:49,733 --> 01:06:49,933 Speaker 13: Is it? 1306 01:06:50,013 --> 01:06:51,653 Speaker 2: So it's tied to the US dollar? Is it? 1307 01:06:52,973 --> 01:06:55,773 Speaker 9: Yep? Absolutely every time the US dollar year so so 1308 01:06:56,373 --> 01:06:58,573 Speaker 9: it just doesn't allow so it makes it one for one, 1309 01:06:58,813 --> 01:07:00,893 Speaker 9: so it doesn't fluctuate. So of these coins you can 1310 01:07:00,933 --> 01:07:03,453 Speaker 9: see just go all over the place. Yeah, you're talking 1311 01:07:03,453 --> 01:07:05,773 Speaker 9: about these other coins, they will never go be on 1312 01:07:05,813 --> 01:07:08,253 Speaker 9: the the stable coins. 1313 01:07:08,413 --> 01:07:10,613 Speaker 2: It sounds like you're heavy to be out though, David, 1314 01:07:10,653 --> 01:07:12,093 Speaker 2: like you got out with a bit of money, but 1315 01:07:12,093 --> 01:07:16,293 Speaker 2: it was less stress in the interim. 1316 01:07:15,093 --> 01:07:17,293 Speaker 3: Hell of a punt one hundred k. You didn't think 1317 01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:18,493 Speaker 3: about starting with team cancy. 1318 01:07:18,533 --> 01:07:20,213 Speaker 6: Are it win? Well? 1319 01:07:20,333 --> 01:07:23,093 Speaker 9: Funny said that we we bought we had to buy 1320 01:07:23,133 --> 01:07:25,733 Speaker 9: five to try it because I've never used We had 1321 01:07:25,733 --> 01:07:29,413 Speaker 9: to use a someone in Auckland to do the do 1322 01:07:29,533 --> 01:07:32,653 Speaker 9: the transfer and we never heard this company school. So 1323 01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:35,093 Speaker 9: I said to my wife, I love just this is 1324 01:07:35,133 --> 01:07:37,373 Speaker 9: by a few and just make sure our money doesn't 1325 01:07:37,373 --> 01:07:41,013 Speaker 9: disappear and then of course when you get this this coin, 1326 01:07:41,333 --> 01:07:43,373 Speaker 9: you then have to put into a wall of for security, 1327 01:07:44,493 --> 01:07:46,893 Speaker 9: and this waller has to have like all these passwords, 1328 01:07:46,893 --> 01:07:48,773 Speaker 9: and if you lose this passwords, you can't get your 1329 01:07:48,813 --> 01:07:49,493 Speaker 9: coin down. 1330 01:07:49,693 --> 01:07:50,493 Speaker 13: So your stuff. 1331 01:07:50,733 --> 01:07:54,613 Speaker 9: So it's so we have this like ten different passwords 1332 01:07:54,613 --> 01:07:56,933 Speaker 9: and we have to start somewhere so it doesn't burn, 1333 01:07:56,973 --> 01:07:59,893 Speaker 9: it doesn't go missing. Because this was happening to a 1334 01:07:59,933 --> 01:08:02,493 Speaker 9: lot of people, is that they lose their passwords and 1335 01:08:03,093 --> 01:08:06,093 Speaker 9: get into your account to trade you coins. So you're 1336 01:08:06,453 --> 01:08:08,053 Speaker 9: very stressful years a lot of money. 1337 01:08:08,373 --> 01:08:10,493 Speaker 3: The story of a guy in America, I'm sure you've 1338 01:08:10,493 --> 01:08:12,013 Speaker 3: seen it because the story came out a while ago, 1339 01:08:12,013 --> 01:08:13,893 Speaker 3: but he had about three hundred million dollars worth of 1340 01:08:13,893 --> 01:08:16,893 Speaker 3: bitcoin on one of those wallets and accidentally got sent 1341 01:08:16,933 --> 01:08:21,492 Speaker 3: to the dump. And he still, I think to this day, 1342 01:08:21,532 --> 01:08:24,173 Speaker 3: he's still at that tip every day, just again hoping 1343 01:08:24,173 --> 01:08:25,972 Speaker 3: he can find it and one day gets three hundred 1344 01:08:25,973 --> 01:08:28,933 Speaker 3: million dollars. But man, that's a lot of stress. 1345 01:08:28,893 --> 01:08:29,173 Speaker 4: It is. 1346 01:08:29,293 --> 01:08:31,492 Speaker 9: Yeah, I know I read about that too. Where we 1347 01:08:31,652 --> 01:08:34,652 Speaker 9: haven't spend every day, I start my wife, you ever 1348 01:08:34,692 --> 01:08:39,093 Speaker 9: lost the you ever lost the passwords? Heavy where? And 1349 01:08:39,173 --> 01:08:40,973 Speaker 9: she won't tell me because she thinks I'm going to 1350 01:08:41,053 --> 01:08:43,732 Speaker 9: lose it. I see if you die, I said, then 1351 01:08:43,772 --> 01:08:44,253 Speaker 9: I don't. 1352 01:08:44,053 --> 01:08:44,732 Speaker 8: Know where it is. 1353 01:08:46,333 --> 01:08:48,532 Speaker 9: So we was a bit of fun anyway. Look, it 1354 01:08:48,572 --> 01:08:49,492 Speaker 9: was a bit of fun. It was a bit of 1355 01:08:49,572 --> 01:08:52,532 Speaker 9: learning curve. But I look, you get slight the old life, 1356 01:08:52,572 --> 01:08:55,293 Speaker 9: and I think it leaves risk averse becoming. 1357 01:08:55,452 --> 01:08:56,372 Speaker 13: I just had enough, you know. 1358 01:08:56,372 --> 01:08:58,572 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't want to wake up and lie 1359 01:08:58,612 --> 01:09:01,253 Speaker 9: like I wasn't chicken my account. So yeah, we made 1360 01:09:01,372 --> 01:09:03,372 Speaker 9: we made it. We made it. We made a bit 1361 01:09:03,412 --> 01:09:05,093 Speaker 9: of money out of it, but we should have made more. 1362 01:09:05,173 --> 01:09:08,333 Speaker 9: But he unless I'm not unless I haven't lost my. 1363 01:09:09,293 --> 01:09:11,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll glad you didn't get your hands too badly 1364 01:09:11,173 --> 01:09:11,812 Speaker 2: burnt there, David. 1365 01:09:11,933 --> 01:09:12,652 Speaker 3: Yeah, well played. 1366 01:09:12,692 --> 01:09:14,333 Speaker 2: I tell you what the person who was texting before, 1367 01:09:14,333 --> 01:09:16,852 Speaker 2: angry because they didn't know what crypto currency was, would 1368 01:09:16,853 --> 01:09:19,492 Speaker 2: have been. It must be so furious by the time 1369 01:09:19,492 --> 01:09:27,532 Speaker 2: we're talking about eggs r P bridging between and stable 1370 01:09:27,572 --> 01:09:29,173 Speaker 2: coin attached to the US dollar. 1371 01:09:29,812 --> 01:09:32,772 Speaker 3: If you're still with us, thank you, and hopefully we 1372 01:09:32,812 --> 01:09:35,012 Speaker 3: can explain it a bit more. Oh Waite, hundred eighty 1373 01:09:35,013 --> 01:09:36,053 Speaker 3: ten eighty is a number to call. 1374 01:09:36,053 --> 01:09:37,452 Speaker 2: I don't know if I grew with Matt. The TEXTI 1375 01:09:37,532 --> 01:09:40,532 Speaker 2: here it says gold will be useless as apes will 1376 01:09:40,612 --> 01:09:44,732 Speaker 2: rule the world post apocalypse. But apes not like gold. 1377 01:09:44,732 --> 01:09:46,092 Speaker 2: They've got no use for a guest. 1378 01:09:46,452 --> 01:09:47,532 Speaker 3: Get tiny things, don't they? 1379 01:09:47,732 --> 01:09:50,213 Speaker 2: I guess bananas will be the currency. 1380 01:09:50,973 --> 01:09:53,652 Speaker 3: It is caught to three oh one hundred eighty ten 1381 01:09:53,692 --> 01:09:56,092 Speaker 3: eighty Is that number to coll You still bullish on crypto? 1382 01:09:56,973 --> 01:09:58,932 Speaker 3: Tell us your story back in the moment. 1383 01:09:59,732 --> 01:10:02,093 Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun 1384 01:10:02,173 --> 01:10:06,852 Speaker 1: along the way, Matt, and afternoons with Skoda scoter codes 1385 01:10:06,973 --> 01:10:11,652 Speaker 1: every day and Skoda CODEZ NEWSTALKSB. 1386 01:10:11,293 --> 01:10:14,572 Speaker 3: New stalks 'B. We are discussing crypto currency. It is 1387 01:10:14,572 --> 01:10:16,812 Speaker 3: just on the back of a story. There's quite a 1388 01:10:16,853 --> 01:10:20,172 Speaker 3: sordid investigation actually into the murder of an Auckland courier. 1389 01:10:20,253 --> 01:10:22,492 Speaker 3: But the reason we are bringing it back up is 1390 01:10:22,532 --> 01:10:24,652 Speaker 3: that six million dollars worth of crypto is involved in 1391 01:10:24,652 --> 01:10:27,133 Speaker 3: that investigation. So what is happening in the world of 1392 01:10:27,133 --> 01:10:30,213 Speaker 3: cryptocurrencies that's fallen out of the headlines? Are you still 1393 01:10:30,213 --> 01:10:30,932 Speaker 3: bullish about it? 1394 01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:34,652 Speaker 2: Crypto, says Penny. For those coin slash tokens that have 1395 01:10:34,692 --> 01:10:37,253 Speaker 2: a commercial purpose already very likely to stay. The others 1396 01:10:37,293 --> 01:10:39,652 Speaker 2: mostly created by people to make quick money and get out, 1397 01:10:40,093 --> 01:10:47,852 Speaker 2: example being the Trump token will disappear. The tour one's 1398 01:10:47,893 --> 01:10:50,772 Speaker 2: not going so well as it. No, are we buying 1399 01:10:50,772 --> 01:10:54,652 Speaker 2: and selling bitcoin on the radio? No, we don't have 1400 01:10:54,732 --> 01:10:58,772 Speaker 2: that functionality on this FM broadcast and on your iHeartRadio app. 1401 01:10:58,812 --> 01:11:01,053 Speaker 3: Could we do that like a trade in exchange, you 1402 01:11:01,093 --> 01:11:03,253 Speaker 3: know the old trade and exchange program that they used 1403 01:11:03,253 --> 01:11:05,012 Speaker 3: to have on New Stalks B on a Saturday morning. 1404 01:11:05,133 --> 01:11:06,092 Speaker 3: We're just bringing crypto. 1405 01:11:06,213 --> 01:11:14,412 Speaker 2: Someone sending their there. They're old, battered up, old bitcoin. Yeah. Oh, 1406 01:11:14,412 --> 01:11:18,253 Speaker 2: I might start a tiler coin. Okay, Well, the hype's high. 1407 01:11:18,812 --> 01:11:20,213 Speaker 3: It's going to be short lived. There's going to be 1408 01:11:20,213 --> 01:11:23,412 Speaker 3: a quick rug ball McNish, how are you this afternoon? 1409 01:11:24,333 --> 01:11:26,133 Speaker 7: Good? Thanks? How are you guys doing? Yes? 1410 01:11:26,253 --> 01:11:28,372 Speaker 3: Good, good, Nice to chat with you. So you're still 1411 01:11:28,372 --> 01:11:29,492 Speaker 3: bolish about crypto? 1412 01:11:30,933 --> 01:11:35,052 Speaker 7: Uh not currently. I was into crypto back in twenty twenty. 1413 01:11:35,173 --> 01:11:37,173 Speaker 7: I put a little bit of my savings into it, 1414 01:11:37,412 --> 01:11:39,652 Speaker 7: but I was prepared to lose it. But I think 1415 01:11:39,732 --> 01:11:42,532 Speaker 7: that it was lucky to, you know, get in at 1416 01:11:42,532 --> 01:11:45,812 Speaker 7: the right time, and I got out in a couple 1417 01:11:45,812 --> 01:11:48,772 Speaker 7: of years with a little profit. I still hold a 1418 01:11:48,772 --> 01:11:51,932 Speaker 7: little bit of XRP dodge Coin, of course, because I'm 1419 01:11:52,013 --> 01:11:57,132 Speaker 7: long Tesla, so I'm into dodge coin and into Sheba. 1420 01:11:57,253 --> 01:11:59,013 Speaker 7: You know, I'm not sure if you've thought of that 1421 01:11:59,213 --> 01:11:59,732 Speaker 7: mean coin. 1422 01:12:01,893 --> 01:12:03,933 Speaker 3: Was that an offshoot of doge? 1423 01:12:05,532 --> 01:12:09,452 Speaker 7: Yes, yes, that's right, but it clartly made me good 1424 01:12:09,452 --> 01:12:12,492 Speaker 7: money sort of theorium and bitcoin, and I got out 1425 01:12:12,532 --> 01:12:14,532 Speaker 7: of it, and I'm glad I didn't go back in, 1426 01:12:14,853 --> 01:12:17,492 Speaker 7: but I still well at some stage when it comes 1427 01:12:17,532 --> 01:12:20,173 Speaker 7: to around the thirty thirty five thousand marc, that's when 1428 01:12:20,213 --> 01:12:21,612 Speaker 7: I'll enter into bitcoin. 1429 01:12:21,253 --> 01:12:24,852 Speaker 3: Again, right, And so why that mark? You think that's 1430 01:12:24,933 --> 01:12:27,372 Speaker 3: the that's almost the floor and it can only keep 1431 01:12:27,372 --> 01:12:28,053 Speaker 3: going up from there. 1432 01:12:29,053 --> 01:12:32,213 Speaker 7: Yes, that's what I think it'll come down to, but 1433 01:12:32,333 --> 01:12:34,892 Speaker 7: I could be wrong. I look at chats now and 1434 01:12:34,933 --> 01:12:38,333 Speaker 7: then so yeah, I think that's the bottom that it 1435 01:12:38,372 --> 01:12:40,772 Speaker 7: could go to, and then it'll go up again. 1436 01:12:41,532 --> 01:12:44,372 Speaker 2: So my understanding was something like dose coin, right, it 1437 01:12:44,412 --> 01:12:49,333 Speaker 2: doesn't have a financial infrastructure around it, So I mean, 1438 01:12:49,372 --> 01:12:51,732 Speaker 2: can you is there is there any way to spend 1439 01:12:51,772 --> 01:12:55,492 Speaker 2: it or do you have to transfer it into buy 1440 01:12:55,572 --> 01:12:58,253 Speaker 2: bitcoin with it before you bring it into the real 1441 01:12:58,293 --> 01:13:00,053 Speaker 2: world mag niche. 1442 01:13:01,412 --> 01:13:04,293 Speaker 7: I used an app, an Australian based app I would 1443 01:13:04,452 --> 01:13:08,253 Speaker 7: maame it. But if it was easy to transfer our 1444 01:13:08,893 --> 01:13:11,692 Speaker 7: you know, you transfer and you learn into USD and 1445 01:13:11,732 --> 01:13:13,692 Speaker 7: you can play them directly off. 1446 01:13:13,492 --> 01:13:16,933 Speaker 3: The exchange, right, And why do you think Dodgers is 1447 01:13:16,973 --> 01:13:17,732 Speaker 3: still going Well? 1448 01:13:20,133 --> 01:13:23,293 Speaker 7: I think that's just the push that non Musk has 1449 01:13:23,412 --> 01:13:27,492 Speaker 7: or has influenced over the coin, nothing else. So that's 1450 01:13:27,532 --> 01:13:28,812 Speaker 7: the reason why I'm long on it. 1451 01:13:29,093 --> 01:13:31,253 Speaker 2: And maybe maybe in there early because that was what 1452 01:13:31,293 --> 01:13:34,812 Speaker 2: when did doage corn come out? That was like twenty twelve, 1453 01:13:34,812 --> 01:13:37,012 Speaker 2: two thirteen, that kind of time. 1454 01:13:37,133 --> 01:13:38,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's sort. 1455 01:13:38,732 --> 01:13:41,412 Speaker 2: Of got some kind of historical value rather than one 1456 01:13:41,452 --> 01:13:44,293 Speaker 2: that's just come out, you know today. 1457 01:13:44,372 --> 01:13:47,812 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, Vignish, thank you very much for giving 1458 01:13:47,853 --> 01:13:50,133 Speaker 3: us a buzz and all the best of Bitcoin drops 1459 01:13:50,133 --> 01:13:52,133 Speaker 3: to thirty thousand dollars. Oh one hundred and eighty ten 1460 01:13:52,213 --> 01:13:54,452 Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? Nine to ninety two 1461 01:13:54,612 --> 01:13:55,173 Speaker 3: is the text? 1462 01:13:56,093 --> 01:13:59,012 Speaker 2: This textas says, slaves work for free, but get food 1463 01:13:59,053 --> 01:14:01,253 Speaker 2: and housing. Now we work for money, but all your 1464 01:14:01,253 --> 01:14:04,213 Speaker 2: money goes to food and housing. So are we just 1465 01:14:04,293 --> 01:14:06,052 Speaker 2: slaves that think we are free? Alistair? 1466 01:14:06,093 --> 01:14:08,572 Speaker 3: That is zeebe Alistair. Yeah, get my head around that one. 1467 01:14:08,652 --> 01:14:10,572 Speaker 2: Who I'll just crunch the numbers on that and get 1468 01:14:10,572 --> 01:14:12,293 Speaker 2: back to you after the break elistair. 1469 01:14:12,213 --> 01:14:14,173 Speaker 3: It is eight minutes to three. 1470 01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:16,772 Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun 1471 01:14:16,812 --> 01:14:20,293 Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons US 1472 01:14:20,372 --> 01:14:21,253 Speaker 1: Talk zb. 1473 01:14:21,692 --> 01:14:23,053 Speaker 3: Use talks B five to three. 1474 01:14:23,452 --> 01:14:26,452 Speaker 1: Are you ready to crack the Scoda code. 1475 01:14:26,732 --> 01:14:28,652 Speaker 3: Yes, our mates at Scoter want to send you and 1476 01:14:28,692 --> 01:14:30,692 Speaker 3: a friend to experience the tour to Fronts when you 1477 01:14:30,732 --> 01:14:33,333 Speaker 3: play Scoter codes. But if you've been to the Scotera 1478 01:14:33,372 --> 01:14:36,053 Speaker 3: website for today's sco to code but needs some help, 1479 01:14:36,093 --> 01:14:36,612 Speaker 3: here is. 1480 01:14:36,572 --> 01:14:41,612 Speaker 2: Your clue, a bundle of things together cards Wolves or 1481 01:14:41,652 --> 01:14:45,012 Speaker 2: your weekend gear. That clue again, a bundle of things 1482 01:14:45,013 --> 01:14:48,213 Speaker 2: together cards, Wolves or your weekend gear. 1483 01:14:48,452 --> 01:14:50,532 Speaker 3: There you go, so make sure you are in to 1484 01:14:50,652 --> 01:14:53,212 Speaker 3: win the trip for two to the Tour de France. 1485 01:14:53,412 --> 01:14:56,972 Speaker 3: Just go to scoter Code scoter dot co dot nz 1486 01:14:57,333 --> 01:15:00,213 Speaker 3: and play Scoter codes. It's a fantastic prize to make 1487 01:15:00,253 --> 01:15:03,212 Speaker 3: sure you are into. When back briefly to our discussion 1488 01:15:03,293 --> 01:15:04,892 Speaker 3: on cryptocurrencies, I. 1489 01:15:04,772 --> 01:15:08,492 Speaker 2: Think and hope bitcoin will continue to grow overall, says John. 1490 01:15:09,293 --> 01:15:12,333 Speaker 2: Folks are skeptical, but like metals, they keep on chugging along. 1491 01:15:12,372 --> 01:15:15,932 Speaker 2: While prices and inflation devour our dollar to trading peanuts 1492 01:15:15,973 --> 01:15:17,053 Speaker 2: and shells. 1493 01:15:18,093 --> 01:15:18,653 Speaker 3: Beautifully. 1494 01:15:18,973 --> 01:15:21,972 Speaker 2: Why does apocalyptic talk always come into crypto talk? 1495 01:15:22,293 --> 01:15:22,492 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1496 01:15:22,532 --> 01:15:25,053 Speaker 2: I think it's got a sort of cyberpunk vibe about it, 1497 01:15:25,053 --> 01:15:25,412 Speaker 2: doesn't it? 1498 01:15:25,492 --> 01:15:29,612 Speaker 3: I think it does. Yeah, right, fantastic discussion. Thank you 1499 01:15:29,652 --> 01:15:32,892 Speaker 3: to everybody who called and text on that one. Really 1500 01:15:33,013 --> 01:15:36,532 Speaker 3: enjoyed that. Coming up after three o'clock though, getting into 1501 01:15:36,652 --> 01:15:39,652 Speaker 3: running in your late forties and fifties, has that been 1502 01:15:39,692 --> 01:15:42,612 Speaker 3: a game changer for you? Is it wise? And if 1503 01:15:42,652 --> 01:15:44,532 Speaker 3: you've got a friend thinking about it, what advice would 1504 01:15:44,572 --> 01:15:45,093 Speaker 3: you give them? 1505 01:15:45,293 --> 01:15:47,052 Speaker 1: Tuck your butt? 1506 01:15:47,612 --> 01:15:47,812 Speaker 8: Wait? 1507 01:15:47,812 --> 01:15:50,293 Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is that? And able to call? 1508 01:15:50,372 --> 01:15:52,612 Speaker 3: Nineteen nineties of tex New Sporting Weather on its way, 1509 01:15:52,732 --> 01:15:55,532 Speaker 3: great debut company. As always, you're listening to Matt and 1510 01:15:55,572 --> 01:15:56,972 Speaker 3: Tyler stay right here, will be back soon. 1511 01:16:06,293 --> 01:16:10,492 Speaker 1: The big stories, the leak shoes, the big trends and 1512 01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:13,932 Speaker 1: everything in between. And it's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams 1513 01:16:13,973 --> 01:16:16,692 Speaker 1: Afternoon squid Shoder News Talk. 1514 01:16:16,532 --> 01:16:20,772 Speaker 3: Said they welcome back, excuse me, welcome back into the program. 1515 01:16:20,812 --> 01:16:23,652 Speaker 3: Seven bars three Really good abua with us, So thanks 1516 01:16:23,692 --> 01:16:26,572 Speaker 3: for giving us a listen. You have a chat about running. 1517 01:16:26,572 --> 01:16:29,452 Speaker 3: A story in The Washington Post written by Kiwi journalist 1518 01:16:29,452 --> 01:16:31,692 Speaker 3: and a fifield, who took up running in her late 1519 01:16:31,772 --> 01:16:36,412 Speaker 3: forties and fifties. Despite not being naturally athletic or consistent. 1520 01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:38,092 Speaker 2: She took up running in her late forties and fifties. 1521 01:16:38,133 --> 01:16:39,412 Speaker 2: So she took up in the late forties and then 1522 01:16:39,412 --> 01:16:40,812 Speaker 2: stopped and then took it up in their fifties. 1523 01:16:40,853 --> 01:16:42,772 Speaker 3: That's a good point. Yeah, so there should be the 1524 01:16:42,772 --> 01:16:44,892 Speaker 3: fifties in there. Yeah, the late forties. 1525 01:16:44,933 --> 01:16:46,452 Speaker 2: Okay, she took that running in her late forties. 1526 01:16:46,492 --> 01:16:48,013 Speaker 3: I say that, and she's been kicking us in the 1527 01:16:48,053 --> 01:16:52,252 Speaker 3: late fifties. But despite not being naturally athletic or consistent 1528 01:16:52,293 --> 01:16:55,093 Speaker 3: in the past, she gradually did build up to completing 1529 01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:58,772 Speaker 3: her first ultra marathon just before her fiftieth birthday. 1530 01:16:58,893 --> 01:16:59,173 Speaker 2: Wow. 1531 01:16:59,333 --> 01:17:03,092 Speaker 3: So she started small with run walk routine, she says, 1532 01:17:03,133 --> 01:17:05,293 Speaker 3: along the way, joining a running group and getting out 1533 01:17:05,293 --> 01:17:08,893 Speaker 3: almost every day. And surprisingly, she said the biggest transformation 1534 01:17:09,013 --> 01:17:12,733 Speaker 3: for her was mental rather than physical, more confidence, resilience, 1535 01:17:13,173 --> 01:17:15,692 Speaker 3: and also on the physical side, a new appreciation for 1536 01:17:15,772 --> 01:17:18,293 Speaker 3: what her body could do. And she says it proves 1537 01:17:18,333 --> 01:17:21,812 Speaker 3: it's never too late to become a runner. So the 1538 01:17:21,933 --> 01:17:24,093 Speaker 3: question for you is getting into running in your late 1539 01:17:24,173 --> 01:17:27,213 Speaker 3: forties or fifties or sixties, has it been a game 1540 01:17:27,333 --> 01:17:29,732 Speaker 3: changer for you? And if you had a friend starting 1541 01:17:29,732 --> 01:17:32,173 Speaker 3: from scratch, what would be the best advice you'd give 1542 01:17:32,213 --> 01:17:33,812 Speaker 3: someone to get back into running. 1543 01:17:33,893 --> 01:17:37,892 Speaker 2: It's an ultra marathon? Is that anything longer than a marathon? So, 1544 01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:39,812 Speaker 2: because because you have you know, when someone says that 1545 01:17:39,812 --> 01:17:42,253 Speaker 2: they're going to run ultra marathon, there's then there is 1546 01:17:42,293 --> 01:17:45,293 Speaker 2: the distance. Right, whereas a marathon is always forty two 1547 01:17:45,333 --> 01:17:49,412 Speaker 2: point two k, an ultra marathon can be sometimes you 1548 01:17:49,452 --> 01:17:50,973 Speaker 2: see it like a friend of mine just texting me 1549 01:17:51,013 --> 01:17:53,133 Speaker 2: before and said he was going to run one that 1550 01:17:53,213 --> 01:17:58,412 Speaker 2: was eighty eight k, So ultra can be any is it? 1551 01:17:58,772 --> 01:18:00,732 Speaker 2: No said, ultra marathon length is there? 1552 01:18:00,812 --> 01:18:00,892 Speaker 5: Well? 1553 01:18:00,933 --> 01:18:03,532 Speaker 3: I thought it's usually starts at fifty k that's the 1554 01:18:03,933 --> 01:18:05,692 Speaker 3: ultrasov scene. But you're right, it can go up to 1555 01:18:05,732 --> 01:18:08,572 Speaker 3: one hundred k or one hundred miles or as your 1556 01:18:08,572 --> 01:18:10,732 Speaker 3: mate's doing eighty eight K. But I think that's the 1557 01:18:10,812 --> 01:18:13,692 Speaker 3: general gist that if it's if it's over forty two k, 1558 01:18:14,333 --> 01:18:16,372 Speaker 3: then it's pretty much an ultra at that stage. 1559 01:18:16,572 --> 01:18:18,852 Speaker 2: So forty three K you don't run an ultra. 1560 01:18:19,333 --> 01:18:21,652 Speaker 3: You're an extra five hundred meters after your marathon. They 1561 01:18:21,692 --> 01:18:22,293 Speaker 3: have done an ultra. 1562 01:18:22,412 --> 01:18:24,412 Speaker 2: You keep running over the finish line. Yeah, and you 1563 01:18:24,532 --> 01:18:27,532 Speaker 2: run it up. Yeah. So this is interesting because I 1564 01:18:27,532 --> 01:18:29,253 Speaker 2: think this is this is something that I hear a lot, 1565 01:18:29,412 --> 01:18:32,572 Speaker 2: and this text has coming here. Running is terrible for you. 1566 01:18:32,772 --> 01:18:35,892 Speaker 2: This is this text, don't do it? Well, what about 1567 01:18:36,013 --> 01:18:38,253 Speaker 2: what if a wolf is chasing you? Actually, that's probably 1568 01:18:38,253 --> 01:18:41,253 Speaker 2: not a bad example. I mean, running is terrible, don't 1569 01:18:41,253 --> 01:18:43,293 Speaker 2: do it. Sometimes you have to do it. Sorry, just 1570 01:18:43,333 --> 01:18:46,412 Speaker 2: finish this text. Running is terrible for you. Don't do it. 1571 01:18:46,412 --> 01:18:48,652 Speaker 2: It has been proven to be the worst form of fitness. 1572 01:18:49,253 --> 01:18:49,732 Speaker 3: Is that right? 1573 01:18:49,772 --> 01:18:53,132 Speaker 2: The damage to ankles and knees can never be healed healed. 1574 01:18:53,253 --> 01:18:55,053 Speaker 2: I don't think they mean that there's a pun The 1575 01:18:55,133 --> 01:18:57,652 Speaker 2: damaged ankles knees can never be healed. What about your 1576 01:18:57,692 --> 01:19:00,173 Speaker 2: damage to hair? You would be better to do no 1577 01:19:00,253 --> 01:19:03,052 Speaker 2: fitness than doing that to yourself. It's that true. 1578 01:19:03,333 --> 01:19:05,772 Speaker 3: I've heard there before that running is the worst thing 1579 01:19:05,772 --> 01:19:07,892 Speaker 3: you can do for your knees. And as that person said, 1580 01:19:07,893 --> 01:19:09,973 Speaker 3: no pun in tended your heels and everything out. I 1581 01:19:10,013 --> 01:19:11,812 Speaker 3: don't know if that's true. I think a lot of 1582 01:19:11,812 --> 01:19:14,213 Speaker 3: that comes back to mate, You've got to start slowly. 1583 01:19:14,213 --> 01:19:16,772 Speaker 3: You got to build up some muscle strength in your 1584 01:19:16,812 --> 01:19:20,173 Speaker 3: legs and other before you start running ultra marathons. But 1585 01:19:20,253 --> 01:19:21,772 Speaker 3: to say that it's bad for your health, I mean, 1586 01:19:21,853 --> 01:19:22,572 Speaker 3: that's crazy talk. 1587 01:19:22,772 --> 01:19:25,412 Speaker 2: I think one of the massive advantages of running, and 1588 01:19:25,452 --> 01:19:28,333 Speaker 2: I do a lot of running. Went for a little 1589 01:19:28,372 --> 01:19:31,213 Speaker 2: run this morning, a little late k yep, just a 1590 01:19:31,213 --> 01:19:33,852 Speaker 2: little weight k is that it's just straight out your door, 1591 01:19:34,572 --> 01:19:38,213 Speaker 2: and it's something very natural to do. Right, You're just running, 1592 01:19:38,372 --> 01:19:41,892 Speaker 2: So you're just a human and you're running, so your 1593 01:19:41,893 --> 01:19:44,973 Speaker 2: fitness is doing something that a human does. If you 1594 01:19:44,973 --> 01:19:45,812 Speaker 2: see what I'm trying to. 1595 01:19:45,732 --> 01:19:47,412 Speaker 3: Say, and you need stuff all for it, right, it's 1596 01:19:47,412 --> 01:19:50,652 Speaker 3: the most democratic exercise you could probably come across. As 1597 01:19:50,692 --> 01:19:52,532 Speaker 3: you don't need much. Have you got shoes and you've 1598 01:19:52,532 --> 01:19:54,093 Speaker 3: got some legs, you can go for a run. 1599 01:19:54,133 --> 01:19:55,612 Speaker 2: You can also spend a hell of a lot though. 1600 01:19:56,133 --> 01:19:59,213 Speaker 2: By the time you've got your watch and you've got 1601 01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:02,812 Speaker 2: your special running pants that have the little pocket for 1602 01:20:02,853 --> 01:20:06,652 Speaker 2: your phone, and you've got your Lulu Lemon singlet and 1603 01:20:06,692 --> 01:20:09,972 Speaker 2: your special running hat, and you or especially molded shoes 1604 01:20:10,093 --> 01:20:13,813 Speaker 2: and your compression socks, can you can spend. 1605 01:20:13,612 --> 01:20:16,412 Speaker 3: A lot on running yep, and I have this is 1606 01:20:16,492 --> 01:20:19,692 Speaker 3: personal experience. I can tell that sounds like a good kit. So, oh, 1607 01:20:19,732 --> 01:20:21,892 Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty. Did you get into 1608 01:20:22,053 --> 01:20:24,053 Speaker 3: running a little bit later in life, whether that's your 1609 01:20:24,093 --> 01:20:27,333 Speaker 3: late forties or your late fifties or even into your sixties, 1610 01:20:27,372 --> 01:20:29,692 Speaker 3: And how has it been? Are you now a convert? 1611 01:20:29,772 --> 01:20:32,532 Speaker 3: Because that's what happens right. People start running, they get 1612 01:20:32,572 --> 01:20:36,372 Speaker 3: the bars, they feel the physical changes, the mental changes, 1613 01:20:36,452 --> 01:20:38,932 Speaker 3: and then they are all in and the running game. 1614 01:20:39,692 --> 01:20:42,692 Speaker 2: Tips for getting into running. I personally think it's a 1615 01:20:42,812 --> 01:20:47,532 Speaker 2: very very very good thing and I thoroughly recommend it. 1616 01:20:47,532 --> 01:20:49,452 Speaker 2: It's been a big boon in my life. 1617 01:20:49,652 --> 01:20:52,253 Speaker 3: Yeah. Great for the old mental health Tyler certainly is 1618 01:20:52,293 --> 01:20:54,213 Speaker 3: I on eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that 1619 01:20:54,293 --> 01:20:56,213 Speaker 3: number to call? So if you had a friend who 1620 01:20:56,253 --> 01:20:58,852 Speaker 3: was starting from scratch in later life once to get 1621 01:20:58,853 --> 01:21:01,372 Speaker 3: into running, what advice would you give them? And if 1622 01:21:01,372 --> 01:21:03,333 Speaker 3: you've done it yourself, how much of a game changer 1623 01:21:03,412 --> 01:21:06,333 Speaker 3: has it been? It is eleven past three bag fory. 1624 01:21:06,213 --> 01:21:07,173 Speaker 1: Shortly is talk? 1625 01:21:07,253 --> 01:21:10,212 Speaker 3: Si'd be past three? So what would be your tips 1626 01:21:10,213 --> 01:21:13,173 Speaker 3: if somebody is planning to get into running. This on 1627 01:21:13,213 --> 01:21:15,452 Speaker 3: the back of a Washington Post article written by a 1628 01:21:15,492 --> 01:21:18,572 Speaker 3: key journalist and a fifield who started running. She was 1629 01:21:18,612 --> 01:21:20,732 Speaker 3: never a runner, never thought it was her thing, and 1630 01:21:20,732 --> 01:21:22,253 Speaker 3: it's been life changing for her. 1631 01:21:22,612 --> 01:21:25,333 Speaker 2: Matt, the only reason we were designed to run was 1632 01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:28,012 Speaker 2: to get away from sabertooth tigers. We don't need to anymore. 1633 01:21:28,133 --> 01:21:30,012 Speaker 2: I did track and field for forty years. My knees 1634 01:21:30,013 --> 01:21:33,093 Speaker 2: are clapped out and have the mental capacity of a 1635 01:21:33,173 --> 01:21:37,372 Speaker 2: radio host, while Rusty, well, your knees have the mental 1636 01:21:37,412 --> 01:21:38,612 Speaker 2: capacity of a radio host. 1637 01:21:38,692 --> 01:21:39,213 Speaker 3: It's ash. 1638 01:21:39,293 --> 01:21:41,333 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not saying radio hosts are smart, but if 1639 01:21:41,372 --> 01:21:43,652 Speaker 2: your knees are as smart as a radio host, it's 1640 01:21:43,692 --> 01:21:44,052 Speaker 2: not bad. 1641 01:21:44,253 --> 01:21:46,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those ticks coming through. On nine to two 1642 01:21:46,893 --> 01:21:47,452 Speaker 3: ninety two. 1643 01:21:47,772 --> 01:21:50,532 Speaker 2: Hey guys, my dad had trouble bypass in his fifties. 1644 01:21:50,532 --> 01:21:52,572 Speaker 2: The doctor said, if he wasn't a marathon runner, he 1645 01:21:52,572 --> 01:21:54,973 Speaker 2: would have already been dead. Although he's just had a 1646 01:21:55,053 --> 01:21:57,892 Speaker 2: knee and hit replaced. He's now eighty two and healthy airs. 1647 01:21:58,133 --> 01:22:01,173 Speaker 2: So tell the texture he's wrong, she is, greg. We 1648 01:22:01,213 --> 01:22:03,173 Speaker 2: don't know that's like that thing yesterday. We don't know 1649 01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:04,093 Speaker 2: that that texter was a. 1650 01:22:04,213 --> 01:22:06,452 Speaker 3: Gotta be nailed got me into trouble yesterday. So don't 1651 01:22:06,452 --> 01:22:12,293 Speaker 3: fall into that trap. Get a Sharon. Yes, hi, Hi, 1652 01:22:12,452 --> 01:22:15,132 Speaker 3: nice to chat with you. So you've gotten into running recently, 1653 01:22:15,173 --> 01:22:15,652 Speaker 3: is that right? 1654 01:22:17,372 --> 01:22:21,772 Speaker 4: No, I'm sixty three now. I started running when I 1655 01:22:21,812 --> 01:22:26,293 Speaker 4: was forty, but I haven't been able to run for 1656 01:22:26,333 --> 01:22:27,573 Speaker 4: about ten years. 1657 01:22:27,333 --> 01:22:31,333 Speaker 3: Now, right, And so what got you into it when 1658 01:22:31,372 --> 01:22:33,173 Speaker 3: you turn forty? I take it you weren't You were 1659 01:22:33,173 --> 01:22:34,053 Speaker 3: never a runner before that? 1660 01:22:35,572 --> 01:22:35,812 Speaker 9: Never? 1661 01:22:36,173 --> 01:22:36,412 Speaker 3: Never. 1662 01:22:36,612 --> 01:22:36,732 Speaker 6: No. 1663 01:22:36,933 --> 01:22:40,972 Speaker 4: I joined a twelve week challenge and all the girls said, 1664 01:22:41,412 --> 01:22:44,652 Speaker 4: you're going to start off jogging and running. I said, no, 1665 01:22:44,973 --> 01:22:46,932 Speaker 4: no way, I've never run in my life. I won't 1666 01:22:46,973 --> 01:22:50,293 Speaker 4: be doing that at forty. But after the twelve weeks 1667 01:22:50,293 --> 01:22:54,652 Speaker 4: so I become addicted. Entered my first event, which was 1668 01:22:54,652 --> 01:22:58,372 Speaker 4: a five kilometer run, and over the next two or 1669 01:22:58,412 --> 01:23:04,052 Speaker 4: twelve years, I did several half marathons and other running events. 1670 01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:04,572 Speaker 4: Loved it. 1671 01:23:05,812 --> 01:23:08,092 Speaker 2: And what made you give it up? Sharon? 1672 01:23:09,612 --> 01:23:12,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't really have the I think, to be 1673 01:23:14,853 --> 01:23:20,213 Speaker 4: enjoy running for years and not suffer the injuries. I 1674 01:23:20,293 --> 01:23:25,492 Speaker 4: tore two maniscauses during that time and a lot of hamstrings. 1675 01:23:25,853 --> 01:23:28,093 Speaker 4: I didn't really have the physique. I think you have 1676 01:23:28,213 --> 01:23:32,772 Speaker 4: to be on the smaller side of things to be 1677 01:23:32,893 --> 01:23:37,133 Speaker 4: able to run without too many incidents. 1678 01:23:37,452 --> 01:23:40,492 Speaker 2: Is the meniscus in your knee? Is that right? Sharon? Yes, 1679 01:23:41,053 --> 01:23:43,133 Speaker 2: I hate the idea of terry a miniscus and you 1680 01:23:43,173 --> 01:23:43,612 Speaker 2: knee as. 1681 01:23:43,532 --> 01:23:45,452 Speaker 3: Horrible and you tour both of them on both knees 1682 01:23:45,612 --> 01:23:46,253 Speaker 3: at the same time. 1683 01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:48,932 Speaker 4: You know about three years apart. 1684 01:23:50,173 --> 01:23:52,572 Speaker 2: And how long is the healing on that, Sharon, sorry 1685 01:23:52,612 --> 01:23:53,093 Speaker 2: to talk of you. 1686 01:23:54,572 --> 01:23:59,173 Speaker 4: About six weeks, six or eight weeks. I went on 1687 01:23:59,213 --> 01:24:01,892 Speaker 4: to run again after I did the first one and 1688 01:24:01,973 --> 01:24:07,372 Speaker 4: the second one, and yeah, I just become Yes, there 1689 01:24:07,372 --> 01:24:10,532 Speaker 4: were too many injuries. I just got slower and slower, 1690 01:24:10,572 --> 01:24:14,692 Speaker 4: and so I loved it, but yeah, I had to 1691 01:24:14,732 --> 01:24:15,572 Speaker 4: give it up. 1692 01:24:16,173 --> 01:24:17,772 Speaker 3: And what are you doing now for Fitness Share. 1693 01:24:19,293 --> 01:24:25,852 Speaker 4: I'm still at the gym, I'm walking a lot. I Yeah, 1694 01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:31,492 Speaker 4: I don't do running. I don't do anything Jrring. I 1695 01:24:31,612 --> 01:24:34,932 Speaker 4: just can't. I've actually went to an automedic surgeon last 1696 01:24:34,973 --> 01:24:38,932 Speaker 4: week and unfortunately there's arthritis in both needs. 1697 01:24:38,973 --> 01:24:40,333 Speaker 5: But he. 1698 01:24:41,933 --> 01:24:45,173 Speaker 4: Said that I've got lots of movement, so there won't 1699 01:24:45,173 --> 01:24:46,253 Speaker 4: be surgery. 1700 01:24:46,452 --> 01:24:47,492 Speaker 10: For a couple of years yet. 1701 01:24:47,853 --> 01:24:49,933 Speaker 2: So do you think that you know your problems you 1702 01:24:49,973 --> 01:24:53,692 Speaker 2: have now? Running is responsible for them? Sharing? 1703 01:24:55,572 --> 01:24:59,892 Speaker 4: Not necessarily. I also do a lot of walking. Even 1704 01:24:59,973 --> 01:25:03,532 Speaker 4: now I've walked about five k's a day with my dog, 1705 01:25:03,853 --> 01:25:07,293 Speaker 4: so I think it might have been other physical activities 1706 01:25:08,612 --> 01:25:11,932 Speaker 4: sort of contributed to the lean. 1707 01:25:15,213 --> 01:25:17,772 Speaker 3: Yell good luck out there, sharing at the gym, look 1708 01:25:17,812 --> 01:25:23,293 Speaker 3: after your meniscus. Is the minisk guy a sky Hey, guys, 1709 01:25:23,372 --> 01:25:25,372 Speaker 3: drive to the park and run on grasp Far better 1710 01:25:25,372 --> 01:25:28,293 Speaker 3: for the joints than the roads, says this texted chairs. 1711 01:25:28,572 --> 01:25:30,892 Speaker 3: I think there's something to say that, and like trail 1712 01:25:30,973 --> 01:25:33,452 Speaker 3: runners swear by it because there's different impacts. So if 1713 01:25:33,452 --> 01:25:35,372 Speaker 3: you're out running on the road, you get the same 1714 01:25:35,412 --> 01:25:36,772 Speaker 3: impacts over and over and over again. 1715 01:25:36,893 --> 01:25:37,093 Speaker 1: Yep. 1716 01:25:37,412 --> 01:25:42,053 Speaker 2: But if you're out in the trail, it's different terrain downhill. Yeah, yeah, 1717 01:25:42,652 --> 01:25:46,812 Speaker 2: it's apparently much better for you. But I believe that 1718 01:25:47,053 --> 01:25:49,892 Speaker 2: if you start running really slow, and you could even 1719 01:25:49,973 --> 01:25:52,532 Speaker 2: start running on a treadmill, if you wanted to get running, 1720 01:25:52,652 --> 01:25:55,173 Speaker 2: running out the treadmill at the gym and get your 1721 01:25:55,412 --> 01:25:59,812 Speaker 2: stance right, get your running right so your feet aren't 1722 01:25:59,853 --> 01:26:01,812 Speaker 2: out in front of you, and you tuck your butt, 1723 01:26:01,893 --> 01:26:04,213 Speaker 2: tuck the bument and yeah, and you get your head 1724 01:26:04,293 --> 01:26:06,253 Speaker 2: up and you look up and you just this is 1725 01:26:06,452 --> 01:26:11,093 Speaker 2: very slight lean for and there's just just lifting your 1726 01:26:11,133 --> 01:26:13,092 Speaker 2: legs up a little bit further at the back. Anyway, 1727 01:26:13,213 --> 01:26:15,293 Speaker 2: you can start working on your running song. Basically, if 1728 01:26:15,293 --> 01:26:17,652 Speaker 2: you start running like someone that looks like they're a 1729 01:26:17,652 --> 01:26:20,173 Speaker 2: good runner, it's like bowling in cricket. Right when you're 1730 01:26:20,213 --> 01:26:22,093 Speaker 2: landing to bowl, the best thing to do is try 1731 01:26:22,093 --> 01:26:25,452 Speaker 2: and bowl like someone that you've seen that's a good bowler. 1732 01:26:25,572 --> 01:26:27,612 Speaker 3: Yeah, so are you blade arms? Are you like you 1733 01:26:27,652 --> 01:26:30,213 Speaker 3: know terminator too or you put the blade hands? I 1734 01:26:30,213 --> 01:26:31,973 Speaker 3: should say to try and get a bit of. 1735 01:26:32,213 --> 01:26:34,732 Speaker 2: Use using your I think using your arms back and forth, 1736 01:26:34,812 --> 01:26:38,452 Speaker 2: that's important. It helps with your hips, the hip position 1737 01:26:38,492 --> 01:26:40,572 Speaker 2: when you're going through it. But I think running like 1738 01:26:40,652 --> 01:26:43,452 Speaker 2: someone that looks like a running running like katogi is 1739 01:26:43,452 --> 01:26:45,333 Speaker 2: what you want to do. It's not about the pace. 1740 01:26:45,333 --> 01:26:47,692 Speaker 2: You want to run really really slowly at the start. 1741 01:26:48,412 --> 01:26:51,972 Speaker 2: But get your form right because if your form's wrong, 1742 01:26:52,013 --> 01:26:54,452 Speaker 2: that's when you start getting terrible. You get injuries because 1743 01:26:54,612 --> 01:26:57,092 Speaker 2: it's all over the shop. You're landing on your knees, funny, 1744 01:26:57,093 --> 01:26:59,932 Speaker 2: you're landing on your ankles, funny. You know, you want 1745 01:26:59,933 --> 01:27:02,012 Speaker 2: to make sure that you're putting a lot of foot 1746 01:27:02,013 --> 01:27:04,053 Speaker 2: on the ground. All those kind of things So my 1747 01:27:04,173 --> 01:27:06,253 Speaker 2: advice for getting into running, and this is the person 1748 01:27:06,333 --> 01:27:08,972 Speaker 2: that's made mistakes because you know, just by going out 1749 01:27:08,973 --> 01:27:11,652 Speaker 2: there is and when you get even if you're running past, 1750 01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:15,053 Speaker 2: take some time, run quite slowly at the start or 1751 01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:18,052 Speaker 2: on a treadmill, and just get your concentrate one hundred 1752 01:27:18,093 --> 01:27:20,772 Speaker 2: percent on your form. So it's more about your form 1753 01:27:20,812 --> 01:27:23,772 Speaker 2: than your time. Times can come later. Maybe you don't 1754 01:27:23,772 --> 01:27:26,732 Speaker 2: even care about times, maybe it's distance whatever, but the 1755 01:27:26,772 --> 01:27:27,732 Speaker 2: form is so important. 1756 01:27:27,772 --> 01:27:29,412 Speaker 3: It's a hard thing when you if you have a 1757 01:27:29,492 --> 01:27:32,053 Speaker 3: video yourself running or someone does, to watch that back 1758 01:27:32,053 --> 01:27:34,293 Speaker 3: for the first time is quite an uncomfortable thing. The 1759 01:27:34,333 --> 01:27:37,093 Speaker 3: first time I saw myself running, I kind of looked 1760 01:27:37,133 --> 01:27:40,412 Speaker 3: like a newborn fawn that I was, you know, quite gangly, 1761 01:27:40,492 --> 01:27:43,532 Speaker 3: even though I'm not that tall, and and I was 1762 01:27:43,572 --> 01:27:46,053 Speaker 3: embarrassed watching myself run. So maybe that was it. I 1763 01:27:46,053 --> 01:27:47,973 Speaker 3: just needed to get my posture right and sucking my 1764 01:27:48,053 --> 01:27:52,772 Speaker 3: bum sucking your bum, sorry, tuck the bum man, Big difference, 1765 01:27:52,812 --> 01:27:53,773 Speaker 3: big difference. 1766 01:27:53,452 --> 01:27:56,173 Speaker 2: There, Suck your bum, Tuck your bum. 1767 01:27:56,333 --> 01:27:58,213 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 1768 01:27:58,253 --> 01:28:01,652 Speaker 3: to call tips for getting into running. If you are 1769 01:28:01,812 --> 01:28:04,132 Speaker 3: a decent runner yourself. It is twenty one past three. 1770 01:28:07,853 --> 01:28:11,293 Speaker 1: Mad and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call Oh eight hundred and 1771 01:28:11,293 --> 01:28:13,412 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZV. 1772 01:28:13,692 --> 01:28:16,452 Speaker 3: Twenty four past three. What are your tips for something 1773 01:28:16,532 --> 01:28:18,932 Speaker 3: to someone wanting to get into running? No, eight hundred 1774 01:28:18,933 --> 01:28:21,052 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Trudy? 1775 01:28:21,452 --> 01:28:22,492 Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon? 1776 01:28:23,213 --> 01:28:23,412 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1777 01:28:23,492 --> 01:28:25,852 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, caen to hear your story. 1778 01:28:26,532 --> 01:28:26,732 Speaker 6: Yep. 1779 01:28:26,893 --> 01:28:29,452 Speaker 16: So when I was forty five, I think I was 1780 01:28:29,652 --> 01:28:32,572 Speaker 16: I hadn't run at all. I've been reasonably fit, but 1781 01:28:32,812 --> 01:28:35,412 Speaker 16: hadn't run, and decided it would be really cool to 1782 01:28:35,492 --> 01:28:37,093 Speaker 16: run the New York Marathon for. 1783 01:28:37,093 --> 01:28:38,412 Speaker 9: My fiftieth birthday. 1784 01:28:39,133 --> 01:28:39,572 Speaker 3: How good? 1785 01:28:40,412 --> 01:28:40,732 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1786 01:28:40,812 --> 01:28:43,852 Speaker 16: So I basically just from it really slow for the 1787 01:28:44,213 --> 01:28:46,652 Speaker 16: foot I'm going to say eighteen months, two years, brought 1788 01:28:46,652 --> 01:28:49,652 Speaker 16: myself up to be able to do it, and then 1789 01:28:49,973 --> 01:28:52,853 Speaker 16: ran the Auckland Marathon twice. 1790 01:28:52,853 --> 01:28:54,852 Speaker 7: Wow, and then went to New York. 1791 01:28:55,853 --> 01:28:56,452 Speaker 3: So how long? 1792 01:28:56,732 --> 01:28:58,293 Speaker 2: So that was? So you started when you're forty five, 1793 01:28:58,293 --> 01:29:01,732 Speaker 2: so you train essentially for five years for the New York. 1794 01:29:01,772 --> 01:29:04,333 Speaker 16: Basically I think the first two years like I did 1795 01:29:04,532 --> 01:29:06,812 Speaker 16: five k then and I did a teen k and 1796 01:29:06,853 --> 01:29:09,772 Speaker 16: I did twenty k. So I was just really building 1797 01:29:09,772 --> 01:29:12,532 Speaker 16: myself up. And I think that's one of the keys, 1798 01:29:12,612 --> 01:29:14,412 Speaker 16: is that you just can't go out and you know, 1799 01:29:14,772 --> 01:29:16,013 Speaker 16: run ten ks. 1800 01:29:16,093 --> 01:29:17,692 Speaker 9: You've actually got to build yourself up. 1801 01:29:17,732 --> 01:29:20,452 Speaker 16: And so I hit kids, and I didn't have it 1802 01:29:20,492 --> 01:29:22,093 Speaker 16: a lot of time, and so I was doing the 1803 01:29:22,213 --> 01:29:25,492 Speaker 16: most of it on a treadmill and I just did 1804 01:29:25,772 --> 01:29:31,173 Speaker 16: one rote run a week and yeah, just talked up 1805 01:29:31,213 --> 01:29:34,492 Speaker 16: and went to the New York Marathon and absolutely loved it. 1806 01:29:35,572 --> 01:29:39,173 Speaker 2: So so how quick because you said you did two 1807 01:29:39,213 --> 01:29:41,812 Speaker 2: Auckland Marathons, So how quickly after you started running? Did 1808 01:29:41,812 --> 01:29:43,733 Speaker 2: you run the first Auckland Marathon. 1809 01:29:44,093 --> 01:29:46,492 Speaker 16: When I was when I was forty eight forty eight? 1810 01:29:46,572 --> 01:29:48,452 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a pretty good build up from forty 1811 01:29:48,452 --> 01:29:51,253 Speaker 2: five to just three years until're running your first aalk 1812 01:29:51,293 --> 01:29:51,772 Speaker 2: the marathon. 1813 01:29:51,853 --> 01:29:54,093 Speaker 16: And it would have taken a while that first I'm 1814 01:29:54,093 --> 01:29:56,372 Speaker 16: not even sure if I was forty five. It might 1815 01:29:56,412 --> 01:29:58,572 Speaker 16: have even been closer to forty six. It was about 1816 01:29:58,612 --> 01:30:02,253 Speaker 16: a year or so, just over a year and so 1817 01:30:02,452 --> 01:30:04,452 Speaker 16: and the end of marathon, yeah, and the end of 1818 01:30:04,572 --> 01:30:07,212 Speaker 16: the Augland Marathon again when I was forty nine. 1819 01:30:07,253 --> 01:30:10,252 Speaker 2: And then you were like I'm out, Yeah, yeah. 1820 01:30:10,013 --> 01:30:11,932 Speaker 16: Well I went I did the New York And then 1821 01:30:11,973 --> 01:30:16,772 Speaker 16: when I came back, I decided to do the Auckland 1822 01:30:16,933 --> 01:30:24,212 Speaker 16: again and I did it four hours in twenty seconds. 1823 01:30:24,213 --> 01:30:26,052 Speaker 16: But I'm giving myself the four hours. 1824 01:30:26,173 --> 01:30:28,572 Speaker 9: So yeah, it. 1825 01:30:28,652 --> 01:30:29,532 Speaker 3: Sounds like a good time. 1826 01:30:29,612 --> 01:30:31,213 Speaker 2: Pretty good. Hey, how did you get into the New 1827 01:30:31,333 --> 01:30:33,812 Speaker 2: York Marathon, Trudy? Is there this sort of it? It's 1828 01:30:33,853 --> 01:30:35,932 Speaker 2: not that easy to get in, is it to. 1829 01:30:35,933 --> 01:30:36,532 Speaker 8: The New York? 1830 01:30:36,772 --> 01:30:37,293 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1831 01:30:37,652 --> 01:30:41,492 Speaker 16: Oh no, New York's open. It's the Boston Marathon that's 1832 01:30:41,973 --> 01:30:42,692 Speaker 16: invite only. 1833 01:30:43,253 --> 01:30:46,532 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, so the New I thought you had 1834 01:30:46,572 --> 01:30:49,253 Speaker 2: to enter a lottery or something to get on because 1835 01:30:49,253 --> 01:30:50,212 Speaker 2: it's so much interesting. 1836 01:30:50,812 --> 01:30:55,732 Speaker 16: There are organizations in New Zealand that take groups to 1837 01:30:55,853 --> 01:30:59,853 Speaker 16: the marathon, right, So so it's like if you contacted 1838 01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:01,732 Speaker 16: the travel agents, they would be able to put you 1839 01:31:01,812 --> 01:31:04,732 Speaker 16: on to the people who organized it. Okay, and so 1840 01:31:04,812 --> 01:31:07,932 Speaker 16: we went over as an organized group. But they were 1841 01:31:07,933 --> 01:31:11,213 Speaker 16: all straight, just me, of course, but they organized the 1842 01:31:11,253 --> 01:31:13,732 Speaker 16: tickets in the hotel and so on and so forth. 1843 01:31:13,973 --> 01:31:15,612 Speaker 2: So how long are you in New York around the 1844 01:31:15,612 --> 01:31:16,692 Speaker 2: marathon before? 1845 01:31:17,372 --> 01:31:19,572 Speaker 9: For five days? Five days? 1846 01:31:19,652 --> 01:31:24,052 Speaker 2: So you're hobbling hobbling around for the days after the marathon? 1847 01:31:24,333 --> 01:31:28,013 Speaker 16: Oh hell yeah, I just even I'm getting onto the 1848 01:31:28,293 --> 01:31:33,213 Speaker 16: underground Oh my goodness. Just just walking down those steps 1849 01:31:33,973 --> 01:31:39,732 Speaker 16: and and out the other side was just and I 1850 01:31:39,732 --> 01:31:44,412 Speaker 16: can remember you could you could tell who everybody who 1851 01:31:44,412 --> 01:31:47,293 Speaker 16: has actually run the New York Marathon, maybe because they 1852 01:31:47,333 --> 01:31:51,093 Speaker 16: were everybody was wearing their metals, but also because they 1853 01:31:51,133 --> 01:31:51,692 Speaker 16: were hobbling. 1854 01:31:52,053 --> 01:31:55,812 Speaker 3: Good. So where does it go around Manhattan? I should 1855 01:31:55,893 --> 01:31:59,612 Speaker 3: know that goes over all five bridges. So what an 1856 01:31:59,652 --> 01:32:01,492 Speaker 3: amazing way to see New York. I mean, I know 1857 01:32:01,572 --> 01:32:03,333 Speaker 3: when you're in the thick of a marathon, you wouldn't 1858 01:32:03,333 --> 01:32:06,772 Speaker 3: be thinking, man, it's a beautiful view. But maybe you were, Oh, yeah, 1859 01:32:06,772 --> 01:32:07,652 Speaker 3: look I eave. 1860 01:32:07,572 --> 01:32:10,492 Speaker 16: On that one. I should carry the camera. And I 1861 01:32:10,492 --> 01:32:13,173 Speaker 16: can remember I went past the jazz band because they 1862 01:32:13,173 --> 01:32:17,572 Speaker 16: had amazing bands all the way along, and I really 1863 01:32:17,692 --> 01:32:19,492 Speaker 16: liked the look of it, and so I thought, oh, 1864 01:32:19,572 --> 01:32:21,213 Speaker 16: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm going to go back and 1865 01:32:21,213 --> 01:32:25,852 Speaker 16: take a photo. I can remember running against against the 1866 01:32:25,933 --> 01:32:29,732 Speaker 16: people and a security guy saying to me, you're running 1867 01:32:29,772 --> 01:32:33,692 Speaker 16: the wrong one. I said, I just want to take 1868 01:32:33,732 --> 01:32:34,333 Speaker 16: your photos. 1869 01:32:34,333 --> 01:32:37,052 Speaker 3: But it was just this sort of thing. 1870 01:32:37,013 --> 01:32:40,412 Speaker 16: Like you were there for the event for you weren't 1871 01:32:40,412 --> 01:32:42,333 Speaker 16: there to try and beat your time, because you're never 1872 01:32:42,372 --> 01:32:44,213 Speaker 16: going to beat your time on something like that. There's 1873 01:32:44,253 --> 01:32:45,892 Speaker 16: just too many people so that this. 1874 01:32:46,492 --> 01:32:49,133 Speaker 2: Article that we're talking about here, would you recommend getting 1875 01:32:49,213 --> 01:32:51,372 Speaker 2: into running in your forties, It sounds like it was 1876 01:32:51,412 --> 01:32:52,532 Speaker 2: an amazing adventure for you. 1877 01:32:52,772 --> 01:32:54,253 Speaker 9: Oh absolutely absolutely. 1878 01:32:54,293 --> 01:32:57,012 Speaker 16: Look, you know what, would you carry on doing ultra 1879 01:32:57,093 --> 01:32:58,092 Speaker 16: at marathon's fever? 1880 01:32:58,452 --> 01:33:00,213 Speaker 8: Look as long as you knew what you were. 1881 01:33:00,093 --> 01:33:04,093 Speaker 16: Doing and taking care and you know, I personally think 1882 01:33:04,133 --> 01:33:08,812 Speaker 16: it would be fine. Be way too hard for me. Yeah, 1883 01:33:09,133 --> 01:33:13,333 Speaker 16: I'm trying all different things now, so I'm sort of 1884 01:33:13,372 --> 01:33:14,772 Speaker 16: getting the bit into high rocks. 1885 01:33:14,853 --> 01:33:15,492 Speaker 3: I'd like it. 1886 01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:18,612 Speaker 16: I figure I might do high rocks from my sixty 1887 01:33:18,652 --> 01:33:19,972 Speaker 16: fifth that's had. 1888 01:33:20,213 --> 01:33:22,732 Speaker 2: Absolutely you might see me there. My partner Trace is 1889 01:33:22,732 --> 01:33:23,732 Speaker 2: trying to get me into high rocks. 1890 01:33:23,772 --> 01:33:25,293 Speaker 3: You did it this year looks full on. 1891 01:33:25,293 --> 01:33:27,372 Speaker 2: It's terrifying. I thank you so much of you call 1892 01:33:27,412 --> 01:33:31,972 Speaker 2: truly appreciated this. Texas says on a forty seven Master Sprinter. 1893 01:33:32,133 --> 01:33:34,372 Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's all in the hips before running. 1894 01:33:34,572 --> 01:33:39,572 Speaker 2: Strengthen the chassis a hips hip, flex's glutes and thor. 1895 01:33:39,293 --> 01:33:43,333 Speaker 3: Thorough thing thoracic sling thoracic sling muscle that a the 1896 01:33:43,372 --> 01:33:44,973 Speaker 3: thoracic sling I'm gonna have to look that up. 1897 01:33:45,053 --> 01:33:47,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be We'll get back to you with what 1898 01:33:47,093 --> 01:33:48,652 Speaker 2: the thoracics sling is next? 1899 01:33:48,772 --> 01:33:51,333 Speaker 3: Sound sexy? Keep those teas coming through on nine two 1900 01:33:51,772 --> 01:33:53,893 Speaker 3: nine two. But the question we've got for you is 1901 01:33:53,933 --> 01:33:56,253 Speaker 3: what advice would you give to a beginner runner if 1902 01:33:56,253 --> 01:34:00,293 Speaker 3: you got into running in your forties, thirties and fifties. 1903 01:34:00,612 --> 01:34:02,652 Speaker 3: Can you hear from you what would be the advice 1904 01:34:02,732 --> 01:34:04,612 Speaker 3: to get into it? 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It's twenty seven to four. 1927 01:35:33,492 --> 01:35:36,253 Speaker 3: So what would be your tips for starting a running 1928 01:35:36,372 --> 01:35:38,253 Speaker 3: routine or getting into running? 1929 01:35:38,893 --> 01:35:39,053 Speaker 14: Now? 1930 01:35:39,093 --> 01:35:42,173 Speaker 3: There was a text before about the thoracic sling and 1931 01:35:42,173 --> 01:35:45,333 Speaker 3: I've looked it up, so primarily it's to do with horses. 1932 01:35:45,372 --> 01:35:47,173 Speaker 3: So if you want to know about the thoracic sling 1933 01:35:47,213 --> 01:35:50,492 Speaker 3: and a horse, it's around the rib cage. It is 1934 01:35:50,652 --> 01:35:53,972 Speaker 3: a critical anatomical feature in horses who lack a collarbone, 1935 01:35:53,973 --> 01:35:58,412 Speaker 3: but in humans it refers to the muscular stabilization system 1936 01:35:58,692 --> 01:36:02,732 Speaker 3: of the upper back scapula, and it's in the front 1937 01:36:02,853 --> 01:36:05,492 Speaker 3: of the body, so it kind of goes from the 1938 01:36:05,532 --> 01:36:07,172 Speaker 3: top of your shoulder on the front of your body 1939 01:36:07,333 --> 01:36:08,772 Speaker 3: and attaches to your rib age. 1940 01:36:09,093 --> 01:36:11,892 Speaker 2: So your glutes are pretty important. Yeah, your butt, muscles, 1941 01:36:12,093 --> 01:36:18,412 Speaker 2: quadrus scepts, hamstrings, your calves, abdominals, lower back, hip flexes, 1942 01:36:18,492 --> 01:36:22,692 Speaker 2: hip abductors. What's the hell the hip flexer? Well, the 1943 01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:25,533 Speaker 2: hip it's like because. 1944 01:36:25,293 --> 01:36:30,972 Speaker 3: It's it's heavy shimming. Yeah, you lift your knee during 1945 01:36:30,973 --> 01:36:31,492 Speaker 3: each slide. 1946 01:36:31,652 --> 01:36:35,852 Speaker 2: Right. The sex is Mattters bang on. I've been running 1947 01:36:35,853 --> 01:36:37,692 Speaker 2: for eighteen years, never had an injury. I put it 1948 01:36:37,692 --> 01:36:40,013 Speaker 2: down to gym work and learning good technique. I think 1949 01:36:40,053 --> 01:36:42,213 Speaker 2: if you're looking at starting at an older age, then 1950 01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:45,293 Speaker 2: you should work on strengthening muscles as well. Motion is 1951 01:36:45,372 --> 01:36:49,532 Speaker 2: lotion and movement is medicine. I like that motion is lotion. Yeah, 1952 01:36:49,893 --> 01:36:52,692 Speaker 2: oh yeah, motion is lotion. I like that with the show. 1953 01:36:54,093 --> 01:36:57,213 Speaker 8: Okay, just some brief tips guys. One, don't scramb on shoes. 1954 01:36:57,213 --> 01:36:59,932 Speaker 8: Whatever you do, don't scramb on shoes and buy two pairs. 1955 01:37:00,013 --> 01:37:01,652 Speaker 8: I got into running because I thought it would be 1956 01:37:01,732 --> 01:37:03,292 Speaker 8: cheap and at three hundred bucks. 1957 01:37:03,173 --> 01:37:07,012 Speaker 3: Per every eight weeks jeep, Yeah, how they get. 1958 01:37:08,452 --> 01:37:13,293 Speaker 8: Pick I was doing one hundred per weeks and I 1959 01:37:13,412 --> 01:37:15,612 Speaker 8: ended up. I started because the mate got into it 1960 01:37:15,652 --> 01:37:18,892 Speaker 8: and she was worth it anyway. I started because someone 1961 01:37:18,893 --> 01:37:21,892 Speaker 8: got into it that I quite fancy. Five years later 1962 01:37:21,973 --> 01:37:24,532 Speaker 8: I was only just keeping up with her literally and 1963 01:37:24,572 --> 01:37:27,852 Speaker 8: I managed to be there once. But it was I 1964 01:37:27,893 --> 01:37:30,692 Speaker 8: did one marathon. I did London. Fourteen days later I 1965 01:37:30,772 --> 01:37:36,052 Speaker 8: ran over about Moral in Scotland. Yeah, it was great. 1966 01:37:37,492 --> 01:37:39,852 Speaker 8: One piece of advice that was given to me was 1967 01:37:39,933 --> 01:37:43,812 Speaker 8: don't do it forever. You will do yourself a lot 1968 01:37:43,812 --> 01:37:46,732 Speaker 8: of harm. And don't run on the footpath. Run on 1969 01:37:46,772 --> 01:37:49,572 Speaker 8: the road. The footpath is way too hard. The shop 1970 01:37:49,612 --> 01:37:50,333 Speaker 8: is way too bad. 1971 01:37:52,133 --> 01:37:53,213 Speaker 2: Had him in run on the road. 1972 01:37:53,372 --> 01:37:57,012 Speaker 8: Like so when I was training, like we'd run around 1973 01:37:57,013 --> 01:37:59,452 Speaker 8: town at night. Yeah, so we're like twenty k's at 1974 01:37:59,492 --> 01:38:01,933 Speaker 8: a time. That was our training runs and we'd do 1975 01:38:01,973 --> 01:38:06,572 Speaker 8: it on the road, not on the footpath. Was very solid. Yeah, 1976 01:38:07,452 --> 01:38:12,173 Speaker 8: at least it's concrete. The jarring is really really bad 1977 01:38:12,173 --> 01:38:14,572 Speaker 8: and you could feel the different So yeah, there's there's 1978 01:38:14,612 --> 01:38:17,173 Speaker 8: lots of those little tips. Remember it's a long race 1979 01:38:17,253 --> 01:38:19,972 Speaker 8: and it's only with yourself and against the clock. Never 1980 01:38:20,013 --> 01:38:25,293 Speaker 8: mind about anyone else. Just worry about you and yeah, 1981 01:38:25,412 --> 01:38:27,532 Speaker 8: and even throw the clock away. I had a walker 1982 01:38:27,612 --> 01:38:29,412 Speaker 8: past me once and I thought I was going a 1983 01:38:29,412 --> 01:38:32,812 Speaker 8: reasonable clip and this and I'm not being nasty, don't 1984 01:38:32,812 --> 01:38:35,892 Speaker 8: take this the wrong way anyone. Little Chinese lady went 1985 01:38:35,933 --> 01:38:37,852 Speaker 8: past me as I was standing still, and I thought, 1986 01:38:38,612 --> 01:38:41,772 Speaker 8: what the year And the guy running next to me said, yeah, 1987 01:38:41,772 --> 01:38:44,092 Speaker 8: I think I'm going home. It was just unreal. 1988 01:38:44,893 --> 01:38:47,412 Speaker 2: I was I was locking. I was locked and behind 1989 01:38:47,452 --> 01:38:50,412 Speaker 2: someone when I was running stew On a half marathon 1990 01:38:50,452 --> 01:38:52,293 Speaker 2: once and I think this guy's going about my pace. 1991 01:38:52,452 --> 01:38:54,532 Speaker 2: And then after I looked down and realized that he 1992 01:38:54,652 --> 01:38:59,372 Speaker 2: had artificial legs, and I was like, oh yeah. 1993 01:38:59,253 --> 01:39:03,732 Speaker 3: Yeh yeah, good sport, Yeah, great sports. Yeah, thank you 1994 01:39:03,772 --> 01:39:07,293 Speaker 3: for you cool ste appreciate that. Yeah great. Call nine 1995 01:39:07,372 --> 01:39:09,572 Speaker 3: two is the text any of those coming through I 1996 01:39:09,612 --> 01:39:10,412 Speaker 3: would say, don't do it. 1997 01:39:10,452 --> 01:39:12,852 Speaker 2: Started running early thirties and just had a hip replacement 1998 01:39:12,893 --> 01:39:19,972 Speaker 2: at fifty. Running exacerbated the damage from blazier. Yeah, okay, 1999 01:39:20,452 --> 01:39:24,293 Speaker 2: I guess it's different for different people, right, But. 2000 01:39:24,333 --> 01:39:26,532 Speaker 3: What you said that and the texts to back you up. 2001 01:39:26,572 --> 01:39:28,572 Speaker 3: That was what I heard from someone in the medical 2002 01:39:28,572 --> 01:39:31,732 Speaker 3: profession that the myth about running causing industry is just 2003 01:39:31,772 --> 01:39:33,692 Speaker 3: that a myth. It's all about getting to the gym 2004 01:39:33,732 --> 01:39:36,532 Speaker 3: and make sure you strengthen those mush muscles and then 2005 01:39:36,532 --> 01:39:37,813 Speaker 3: you're going to be a okay. 2006 01:39:38,492 --> 01:39:40,572 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and going your own pace I think 2007 01:39:40,612 --> 01:39:42,692 Speaker 2: is important because you can get that thing where you're 2008 01:39:42,692 --> 01:39:44,412 Speaker 2: always just going to go faster and faster and faster, 2009 01:39:44,732 --> 01:39:46,852 Speaker 2: and eventually it takes the fun out of it. But 2010 01:39:46,973 --> 01:39:49,213 Speaker 2: you know, you find your pace and you look around 2011 01:39:49,293 --> 01:39:52,293 Speaker 2: and you enjoy the scenery, enjoy the world you're in. 2012 01:39:52,412 --> 01:39:54,333 Speaker 2: You see your city because you're you know, when you're running, 2013 01:39:54,372 --> 01:39:56,892 Speaker 2: like say ten k, you see a lot of your city. Hey, Gene, 2014 01:39:56,893 --> 01:39:58,452 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. You've been running since you were 2015 01:39:58,492 --> 01:39:59,052 Speaker 2: thirty five? 2016 01:40:00,333 --> 01:40:03,852 Speaker 13: I have, Yeah, I start started reasonably late after playing 2017 01:40:03,893 --> 01:40:07,772 Speaker 13: rugby league. Decided to get into running at a flat 2018 01:40:07,812 --> 01:40:10,532 Speaker 13: mat a bit are running and so I think it's 2019 01:40:10,532 --> 01:40:13,372 Speaker 13: doing awkward marathon and I decided I'd join him in 2020 01:40:13,412 --> 01:40:16,772 Speaker 13: the journey. But I think as far as the injuries 2021 01:40:16,772 --> 01:40:19,772 Speaker 13: and that go, guys, it depends how serious you take it. 2022 01:40:20,372 --> 01:40:23,093 Speaker 13: Like there's people who got the bad knees and the 2023 01:40:23,133 --> 01:40:25,972 Speaker 13: hips and things are you know, probably the marathon runners 2024 01:40:25,973 --> 01:40:28,613 Speaker 13: the ultra runners who have got into it quite competitive 2025 01:40:28,652 --> 01:40:32,213 Speaker 13: and quite serious. I think, I guess it all depends 2026 01:40:32,253 --> 01:40:35,092 Speaker 13: on what you want out of it. I really really 2027 01:40:35,253 --> 01:40:38,772 Speaker 13: liked Crudy's approach, but I think what happens with most 2028 01:40:38,812 --> 01:40:41,372 Speaker 13: people is they'd sign up for an event or something 2029 01:40:41,412 --> 01:40:44,853 Speaker 13: and the pressure goes on to have to increase mileage 2030 01:40:45,013 --> 01:40:47,852 Speaker 13: or how often they're running or something like that, and 2031 01:40:47,893 --> 01:40:51,492 Speaker 13: that's where the injuries come about because their bodies haven't 2032 01:40:51,532 --> 01:40:56,973 Speaker 13: had time to adjust to what they're asking it to do. Tendons, ligaments, 2033 01:40:57,013 --> 01:41:00,333 Speaker 13: things like that. So I think that slower your approaches 2034 01:41:00,412 --> 01:41:05,732 Speaker 13: the better, and learn to enjoy it first. That's positive 2035 01:41:06,772 --> 01:41:10,372 Speaker 13: things like the me mental house, the social side of it. 2036 01:41:10,973 --> 01:41:13,093 Speaker 13: But you could get down to your local park run, 2037 01:41:13,133 --> 01:41:16,253 Speaker 13: which is five k. People seem to think park runs 2038 01:41:16,293 --> 01:41:19,693 Speaker 13: super competitive, but there's people who walk there every Saturday. 2039 01:41:20,173 --> 01:41:22,732 Speaker 13: You can get down there and run walk it in 2040 01:41:22,893 --> 01:41:26,812 Speaker 13: thirty or forty minutes if you choose to, and then 2041 01:41:26,812 --> 01:41:28,412 Speaker 13: all of a sudden you start to find as a 2042 01:41:28,452 --> 01:41:31,732 Speaker 13: community who has a healthy lifestyle or likes to go 2043 01:41:31,812 --> 01:41:34,613 Speaker 13: for a coffee or they go for a beer after. 2044 01:41:34,412 --> 01:41:35,852 Speaker 2: A run or something like that. 2045 01:41:37,133 --> 01:41:40,772 Speaker 13: It's only as serious as you make it or want 2046 01:41:40,812 --> 01:41:41,133 Speaker 13: it to be. 2047 01:41:42,293 --> 01:41:45,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was it James Clear and Atomic Habits. 2048 01:41:45,772 --> 01:41:48,772 Speaker 2: I think he said something like the goal is not 2049 01:41:49,213 --> 01:41:52,892 Speaker 2: to run a marathon. The goal is to become a runner. 2050 01:41:54,333 --> 01:41:56,253 Speaker 2: And I think some of the problems if you sign 2051 01:41:56,333 --> 01:41:58,812 Speaker 2: up for to run a marathon, then you're just you're 2052 01:41:58,893 --> 01:42:02,173 Speaker 2: just doing it for that goal. Yes, and then when 2053 01:42:02,213 --> 01:42:04,452 Speaker 2: you run the marathon, what do you stop? So have 2054 01:42:04,492 --> 01:42:05,293 Speaker 2: you learned to love it? 2055 01:42:05,412 --> 01:42:05,692 Speaker 13: Right? 2056 01:42:06,053 --> 01:42:07,852 Speaker 2: Yeah? Does that make sense to you? 2057 01:42:09,213 --> 01:42:14,213 Speaker 13: Yeah, because I think people are forgetting what running is about. 2058 01:42:14,253 --> 01:42:17,372 Speaker 13: Like most of us, we train every week sort of thing. 2059 01:42:17,532 --> 01:42:22,053 Speaker 13: But it's the journey that is life changing. It's not 2060 01:42:22,173 --> 01:42:25,492 Speaker 13: running a marathon or doing an event. It's the every 2061 01:42:25,652 --> 01:42:28,812 Speaker 13: day little bits. Shipping away is a bit that it's 2062 01:42:28,893 --> 01:42:32,772 Speaker 13: life changing. It's not doing some marathon and thinking, oh 2063 01:42:32,853 --> 01:42:34,532 Speaker 13: my gosh, I ran a marathon and I ran it 2064 01:42:34,612 --> 01:42:38,892 Speaker 13: this fast. It's the every day that changes your life. 2065 01:42:39,933 --> 01:42:43,133 Speaker 3: So you you run a club, do you some sort 2066 01:42:43,133 --> 01:42:44,293 Speaker 3: of like a social running club? 2067 01:42:44,893 --> 01:42:46,972 Speaker 13: I am a president of a running club in. 2068 01:42:46,853 --> 01:42:49,813 Speaker 3: Auckland, right, And how many members have you got? 2069 01:42:50,973 --> 01:42:53,572 Speaker 13: We're on about two hundred and ten or something. We 2070 01:42:53,732 --> 01:42:55,612 Speaker 13: fairly knew we're about two or three years old. 2071 01:42:56,013 --> 01:42:58,133 Speaker 3: It's pretty big at the moment. The old social running clubs, 2072 01:42:58,133 --> 01:42:59,492 Speaker 3: I see them every or at the moment. So do 2073 01:42:59,532 --> 01:43:01,412 Speaker 3: you guys gather on what like a Saturday or a 2074 01:43:01,412 --> 01:43:02,133 Speaker 3: Sunday or. 2075 01:43:03,772 --> 01:43:06,572 Speaker 13: So? We basically we have a local park run and 2076 01:43:06,692 --> 01:43:09,612 Speaker 13: we've convinced a lot of members there who were just 2077 01:43:09,652 --> 01:43:14,293 Speaker 13: social runners to coming give athletics, to go athletics New 2078 01:43:14,372 --> 01:43:18,612 Speaker 13: Zealand and Auckland events. It's basically if you talk to 2079 01:43:18,652 --> 01:43:21,732 Speaker 13: them about cross country or anything competitive, their eyes just 2080 01:43:21,812 --> 01:43:25,692 Speaker 13: glaze over. So it's basically just spending time with them 2081 01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:28,892 Speaker 13: and showing the enjoyment they can get out of it. 2082 01:43:29,253 --> 01:43:31,812 Speaker 13: And I think when we first started off, people who 2083 01:43:31,893 --> 01:43:34,333 Speaker 13: were doing that might have been about ten or fifteen, 2084 01:43:34,412 --> 01:43:37,492 Speaker 13: and now we're up to least half the club who 2085 01:43:37,572 --> 01:43:41,253 Speaker 13: does competitive events, and we've got some guys who are 2086 01:43:41,293 --> 01:43:44,253 Speaker 13: still running highly competitive in their seventies. 2087 01:43:46,053 --> 01:43:49,772 Speaker 2: At at what level? Did you play rugby league too, Jean. 2088 01:43:49,812 --> 01:43:51,892 Speaker 8: Oh, just like senior? 2089 01:43:52,293 --> 01:43:54,572 Speaker 1: Oh yeah right, senior for a club? 2090 01:43:54,692 --> 01:43:55,852 Speaker 13: Yeah, nothing beyond there. 2091 01:43:56,293 --> 01:43:58,612 Speaker 2: Okay, I thought you might be Gene Namu for a 2092 01:43:58,652 --> 01:43:59,333 Speaker 2: second there. 2093 01:43:59,933 --> 01:44:00,372 Speaker 13: There was a. 2094 01:44:02,612 --> 01:44:05,293 Speaker 2: Club yeah yeah same plus yeah, yeah, I'll good on 2095 01:44:05,333 --> 01:44:08,933 Speaker 2: you mate. Yeah, And as a very into you know, 2096 01:44:09,213 --> 01:44:12,132 Speaker 2: obviously leagues there's a lot of running, but there's there's 2097 01:44:12,492 --> 01:44:15,532 Speaker 2: running and then stopping, you know, as an opposed to 2098 01:44:15,973 --> 01:44:19,492 Speaker 2: keeping going and going. So it'd be quite a change, really, 2099 01:44:19,492 --> 01:44:20,013 Speaker 2: wouldn't it. 2100 01:44:20,293 --> 01:44:21,173 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, so. 2101 01:44:22,772 --> 01:44:23,013 Speaker 8: I was. 2102 01:44:23,053 --> 01:44:26,732 Speaker 13: Actually I'm lucky enough that my father in law is 2103 01:44:26,893 --> 01:44:30,412 Speaker 13: quite a well known running coach in New Zealand. And 2104 01:44:30,772 --> 01:44:32,492 Speaker 13: when I gave up rugby league and I said Tom, 2105 01:44:32,492 --> 01:44:34,173 Speaker 13: I was going to do a marathon, He's like, oh, 2106 01:44:34,253 --> 01:44:36,293 Speaker 13: he he's paying a little bit of interest. What are 2107 01:44:36,333 --> 01:44:38,532 Speaker 13: you running? And I said, I've upped it now to 2108 01:44:38,853 --> 01:44:42,053 Speaker 13: five kilometers around the block three times a week, and 2109 01:44:42,093 --> 01:44:45,133 Speaker 13: he didn't say anything, and the silence basically said at all. 2110 01:44:45,652 --> 01:44:48,452 Speaker 13: About a week later, a running diary of his turned up, 2111 01:44:48,893 --> 01:44:51,732 Speaker 13: explaining to me how I'd actually need to up my 2112 01:44:51,772 --> 01:44:54,092 Speaker 13: game a little bit if I wanted to complete a marathon, 2113 01:44:54,133 --> 01:44:56,132 Speaker 13: and that's where my journey started. 2114 01:44:56,412 --> 01:44:57,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good. 2115 01:44:58,572 --> 01:45:01,293 Speaker 13: I oftened to coach me once and he refused. 2116 01:45:02,372 --> 01:45:04,492 Speaker 3: Just quickly. Jane, what are you thacking about the advice 2117 01:45:04,492 --> 01:45:06,972 Speaker 3: of tucking your bum? Good advice, take your butt. 2118 01:45:08,893 --> 01:45:12,852 Speaker 13: I'm not for me like you look at someone like 2119 01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:16,092 Speaker 13: Paula Radcliffe Eliza mccoglin. If you look them up, they've 2120 01:45:16,093 --> 01:45:20,533 Speaker 13: got that ugliest singing styles and they are world champions. 2121 01:45:21,013 --> 01:45:23,412 Speaker 13: I think you just work with what you have. Well, 2122 01:45:23,652 --> 01:45:26,213 Speaker 13: I'm not a big person on trying to run on 2123 01:45:26,372 --> 01:45:29,293 Speaker 13: form because I think that's the I think people over 2124 01:45:29,372 --> 01:45:32,692 Speaker 13: complicate running and it's just not that complicated. Like I said, 2125 01:45:32,692 --> 01:45:35,892 Speaker 13: I think it's because they dive in all gun all 2126 01:45:35,973 --> 01:45:39,452 Speaker 13: guns blazing and try too much too soon, learned to 2127 01:45:39,492 --> 01:45:41,772 Speaker 13: love at first and then decide to sign up for 2128 01:45:41,812 --> 01:45:43,772 Speaker 13: an event or something like that got. 2129 01:45:43,652 --> 01:45:45,892 Speaker 2: On your Jane. Of course, Paula Redcliffe had her own 2130 01:45:46,973 --> 01:45:51,293 Speaker 2: but related problems, didn't She two thousand and five London Marathon. 2131 01:45:52,572 --> 01:45:56,452 Speaker 2: Wasn't tacking the butt. That was the problem was the butt. 2132 01:45:57,093 --> 01:45:59,412 Speaker 3: It's not going to it was unfortunate anyway. Yeah, yeah, 2133 01:45:59,452 --> 01:46:04,612 Speaker 3: it was a tough day for her. Very shortly. It 2134 01:46:04,652 --> 01:46:05,772 Speaker 3: is sixteen to four. 2135 01:46:07,893 --> 01:46:11,052 Speaker 1: With you as your afternoon rolls on Matt Eathan Taylor 2136 01:46:11,093 --> 01:46:14,532 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons with Skoda. Can you crack the code? Please 2137 01:46:14,652 --> 01:46:16,572 Speaker 1: go to Codes every Day News Talks. 2138 01:46:16,612 --> 01:46:19,293 Speaker 3: The'd be thirteen to four Friend of the Show, Reagan 2139 01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:21,692 Speaker 3: Frost is get a Matt and Tyler getting back into 2140 01:46:21,772 --> 01:46:24,372 Speaker 3: running is definitely a good idea, great for your health. 2141 01:46:24,452 --> 01:46:27,532 Speaker 2: Tips for people getting started. Just get started, doesn't matter. 2142 01:46:27,572 --> 01:46:29,892 Speaker 2: If it's just one hundred meters a day, then maybe 2143 01:46:29,893 --> 01:46:31,772 Speaker 2: two hundred meters a day, then three hundred meters a day. 2144 01:46:31,772 --> 01:46:35,333 Speaker 2: If you do a little bit of running, walking, running walking, 2145 01:46:35,412 --> 01:46:37,692 Speaker 2: you'll get there and in no time you'll be running 2146 01:46:37,692 --> 01:46:41,133 Speaker 2: five k's. I can honestly recommend it. It probably takes 2147 01:46:41,133 --> 01:46:43,253 Speaker 2: three to six months to be able to get up 2148 01:46:43,253 --> 01:46:45,652 Speaker 2: to running a half marathon or a marathon, but if 2149 01:46:45,692 --> 01:46:48,532 Speaker 2: you just get started, you'll be thankful for it. Great 2150 01:46:48,532 --> 01:46:51,012 Speaker 2: for clearing your mind. Cheers Reagan. See that's what I reckon. 2151 01:46:51,053 --> 01:46:52,892 Speaker 2: The great advantage of running is because that's what I 2152 01:46:52,973 --> 01:46:55,972 Speaker 2: like about it. As I go out and I'm raw 2153 01:46:56,013 --> 01:46:59,532 Speaker 2: dogging now yep, where I just run out completely in nature. 2154 01:46:59,812 --> 01:47:01,772 Speaker 2: I've got my little watch on me, my little Lapple 2155 01:47:01,772 --> 01:47:04,053 Speaker 2: watch that tells me how fast or how far I've run, 2156 01:47:04,093 --> 01:47:04,773 Speaker 2: and stuff. 2157 01:47:04,572 --> 01:47:05,253 Speaker 3: But no music. 2158 01:47:05,572 --> 01:47:08,932 Speaker 2: My body's just letting the ear flow over you. Being 2159 01:47:09,213 --> 01:47:10,933 Speaker 2: part of the world is so good for these That 2160 01:47:11,053 --> 01:47:13,612 Speaker 2: sounds nice, It sounds it's so good for the The 2161 01:47:13,652 --> 01:47:15,772 Speaker 2: thing about running is running is actually pretty punishing, even 2162 01:47:15,812 --> 01:47:16,972 Speaker 2: if you've been doing it for a long time. There's 2163 01:47:16,973 --> 01:47:19,173 Speaker 2: a certain amount of pain to it, yep, but the 2164 01:47:19,213 --> 01:47:21,812 Speaker 2: feeling that comes in that run us high as a 2165 01:47:21,853 --> 01:47:23,772 Speaker 2: real thing. Stephanie, Welcome to the show. 2166 01:47:24,893 --> 01:47:29,572 Speaker 17: Hello, Hello, hello, Hello, can you hear me there? 2167 01:47:29,973 --> 01:47:30,452 Speaker 2: Beautiful? 2168 01:47:30,452 --> 01:47:33,612 Speaker 17: Oh great? Yeah, I just got back into the car 2169 01:47:33,692 --> 01:47:35,932 Speaker 17: after a run and I heard you guys talking about running. 2170 01:47:36,692 --> 01:47:40,612 Speaker 17: And I listened to you guys coming home after work 2171 01:47:40,652 --> 01:47:43,733 Speaker 17: before I pick up my son. So thanks for the 2172 01:47:43,772 --> 01:47:44,892 Speaker 17: insights you bring. 2173 01:47:45,173 --> 01:47:46,012 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. 2174 01:47:47,412 --> 01:47:50,692 Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm the pelvic health of your therapist, so okay, 2175 01:47:51,333 --> 01:47:54,013 Speaker 17: and also a run of myself. And yes, it was 2176 01:47:54,053 --> 01:48:00,412 Speaker 17: an interesting seek where you're the Paula Redcliffe. It's good 2177 01:48:00,452 --> 01:48:05,572 Speaker 17: to talk about. I guess the like you said, running 2178 01:48:05,652 --> 01:48:10,732 Speaker 17: can bring up some other issues with our body and 2179 01:48:11,133 --> 01:48:16,173 Speaker 17: sometimes we yeah, you can if you start running. And 2180 01:48:16,213 --> 01:48:19,692 Speaker 17: even like those like your text are mentioned, like starting 2181 01:48:19,692 --> 01:48:23,532 Speaker 17: off with the intervals and building it up, we often 2182 01:48:23,532 --> 01:48:28,052 Speaker 17: see people realizing that their continence is an issue, whether 2183 01:48:28,093 --> 01:48:31,612 Speaker 17: that's their bladder or their bowel, and and we can 2184 01:48:31,652 --> 01:48:35,173 Speaker 17: help with that, which is really cool because, as you say, 2185 01:48:35,293 --> 01:48:39,372 Speaker 17: some people are kind of addicted to running. Raw Doggie, 2186 01:48:39,572 --> 01:48:44,213 Speaker 17: I love that and how yeah, how that that mental 2187 01:48:44,253 --> 01:48:48,172 Speaker 17: health aspect of it. We've see loads of new mums 2188 01:48:48,253 --> 01:48:50,732 Speaker 17: sort of just like just had a baby, but are 2189 01:48:50,772 --> 01:48:54,892 Speaker 17: desperate to get back running and guide them through that 2190 01:48:55,053 --> 01:48:57,772 Speaker 17: so they can get that back that aspect of their life. 2191 01:48:58,173 --> 01:49:01,452 Speaker 2: Is the pelvic floor part of it, A big part 2192 01:49:01,492 --> 01:49:05,213 Speaker 2: of that situations, Stephanie, palviot floor exercises and such. 2193 01:49:06,013 --> 01:49:11,452 Speaker 17: Yeah, so, especially after having a baby, having a vaginal berth, 2194 01:49:11,772 --> 01:49:16,172 Speaker 17: you need to restrengthen your palvit floor muscles before running 2195 01:49:16,253 --> 01:49:20,692 Speaker 17: because your palvot floor a bit like your core. It 2196 01:49:20,732 --> 01:49:24,852 Speaker 17: has to work in synchrony to hold your bladder and 2197 01:49:24,933 --> 01:49:28,492 Speaker 17: bowels and keep you from leaking and stuff when you're running. 2198 01:49:28,812 --> 01:49:32,333 Speaker 17: And if that's been stretched and damaged with burst, then 2199 01:49:32,452 --> 01:49:35,612 Speaker 17: you might need some help to assess to know what 2200 01:49:36,093 --> 01:49:41,173 Speaker 17: how to correctly activate it and what specific individual exercises 2201 01:49:41,213 --> 01:49:45,732 Speaker 17: you might want to do. Yeah, and usually we suggest 2202 01:49:45,973 --> 01:49:49,412 Speaker 17: at least sort of twelve weeks or so, so about 2203 01:49:49,412 --> 01:49:52,492 Speaker 17: three months before you get back to running, but that 2204 01:49:52,652 --> 01:49:56,052 Speaker 17: sort of individual Some people can get back to running 2205 01:49:56,093 --> 01:49:59,692 Speaker 17: a lot sooner than that, but generally we sort of 2206 01:49:59,692 --> 01:50:03,452 Speaker 17: suggest about three months off running after having a baby. 2207 01:50:04,293 --> 01:50:06,972 Speaker 2: Now, Stephanie, we were talking before, so you know you're 2208 01:50:06,973 --> 01:50:09,972 Speaker 2: talking about the pelvit side of things. Is the arm 2209 01:50:10,053 --> 01:50:13,452 Speaker 2: movements is that key for the positioning of you know, 2210 01:50:13,492 --> 01:50:17,213 Speaker 2: in terms of you know, you know, taking stress off 2211 01:50:17,253 --> 01:50:18,052 Speaker 2: that part of your body. 2212 01:50:19,853 --> 01:50:24,492 Speaker 17: I I'm not sure about the I where you like 2213 01:50:24,532 --> 01:50:26,973 Speaker 17: your whole posture. So yeah, I guess you know, like 2214 01:50:27,013 --> 01:50:32,293 Speaker 17: you're talking about you. But yeah, so I think I 2215 01:50:32,333 --> 01:50:35,812 Speaker 17: agree with your other caller around like you've got to 2216 01:50:35,853 --> 01:50:39,972 Speaker 17: start with what you got, and it's kind of it's 2217 01:50:40,013 --> 01:50:43,172 Speaker 17: not really possible. Just like you can't squeeze your palvot 2218 01:50:43,213 --> 01:50:45,892 Speaker 17: floor in your whole run, you can't really tuck your 2219 01:50:45,893 --> 01:50:46,772 Speaker 17: butt your whole run. 2220 01:50:49,452 --> 01:50:49,812 Speaker 2: I try. 2221 01:50:51,532 --> 01:50:52,932 Speaker 17: I'd like to see Matt running. 2222 01:50:53,013 --> 01:50:53,133 Speaker 5: Men. 2223 01:50:53,133 --> 01:50:53,972 Speaker 17: They're basically well. 2224 01:50:53,893 --> 01:50:55,892 Speaker 2: Someone described me. Someone saw me running once and said 2225 01:50:55,933 --> 01:50:57,812 Speaker 2: they thought I was running backwards, and someone else said 2226 01:50:57,812 --> 01:50:59,253 Speaker 2: it looked like I was in a tumble dryer. 2227 01:50:59,293 --> 01:51:01,892 Speaker 3: So I may feel like I'm tucking my butt, but 2228 01:51:01,933 --> 01:51:04,173 Speaker 3: it doesn't look like Well. 2229 01:51:04,213 --> 01:51:07,532 Speaker 17: One thing that does actually help with talbot floor issues 2230 01:51:07,732 --> 01:51:12,532 Speaker 17: is having a higher running cadence. So if your cadence 2231 01:51:12,652 --> 01:51:14,932 Speaker 17: is between so that's how many steps to a minute, 2232 01:51:15,013 --> 01:51:18,652 Speaker 17: If it's between one seventy and two hundred, then that's 2233 01:51:18,732 --> 01:51:22,173 Speaker 17: shown to have people who have a higher cadence have 2234 01:51:22,293 --> 01:51:26,132 Speaker 17: less powervoc floor issues like leaking or pressure with prolapse 2235 01:51:26,213 --> 01:51:30,813 Speaker 17: and that kind of thing. So basically like little fast steps. 2236 01:51:32,013 --> 01:51:33,972 Speaker 2: Sorry, we're going to have to let you go. Stephanie. 2237 01:51:34,013 --> 01:51:35,293 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for a week. I talk to 2238 01:51:35,333 --> 01:51:37,812 Speaker 3: you for hours, but unfortunately we're a bit late for 2239 01:51:37,893 --> 01:51:38,452 Speaker 3: some messages. 2240 01:51:38,532 --> 01:51:40,173 Speaker 2: ADS are going to start paying the matter what we do. 2241 01:51:40,253 --> 01:51:41,572 Speaker 2: But thank you so much for calling. 2242 01:51:42,013 --> 01:51:45,173 Speaker 3: Fantastic, Thanks God, Thanks Stephanie. What a great call. Right 2243 01:51:45,213 --> 01:51:47,213 Speaker 3: beg very shortly. It is eight minutes to four. 2244 01:51:48,452 --> 01:51:51,932 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 2245 01:51:52,213 --> 01:51:57,133 Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Used TALKSB. 2246 01:51:57,812 --> 01:52:00,892 Speaker 2: News Talks B. It is five to four. What a 2247 01:52:00,893 --> 01:52:03,253 Speaker 2: great chat we've just had on running. I think running 2248 01:52:03,293 --> 01:52:05,692 Speaker 2: is the best. You just get out the door. It's 2249 01:52:05,732 --> 01:52:07,892 Speaker 2: great for the ticket and great for the old mental health. 2250 01:52:07,893 --> 01:52:10,013 Speaker 2: And look, you will constantly have niggles and maybe it 2251 01:52:10,053 --> 01:52:12,013 Speaker 2: will destroy your knees, but I think this is all 2252 01:52:12,053 --> 01:52:15,452 Speaker 2: first to play. You're always constantly working on your form 2253 01:52:15,532 --> 01:52:18,412 Speaker 2: and writing injuries and it's a great communal thing. And Tyler, 2254 01:52:18,452 --> 01:52:19,492 Speaker 2: you and I are going to run the pill of 2255 01:52:19,492 --> 01:52:21,612 Speaker 2: the Poe and top Or. I'm just signing up now, 2256 01:52:21,893 --> 01:52:24,013 Speaker 2: you're going to be part of that fantastic run down 2257 01:52:24,013 --> 01:52:26,652 Speaker 2: there in top Or the six hour seven point two 2258 01:52:26,893 --> 01:52:28,412 Speaker 2: k relay race. 2259 01:52:28,452 --> 01:52:30,133 Speaker 3: I've got some training to do. I've got to work 2260 01:52:30,133 --> 01:52:31,012 Speaker 3: on tucking my butts. 2261 01:52:31,133 --> 01:52:32,812 Speaker 2: Yep, I'm looking forward to it. It's a great thing. 2262 01:52:32,893 --> 01:52:35,532 Speaker 2: Sign up for that if you if you're in the region, 2263 01:52:35,812 --> 01:52:37,333 Speaker 2: or if you want to travel down to the great 2264 01:52:37,372 --> 01:52:40,372 Speaker 2: city of great town of Taupo beautiful anyway, Yeah, thank 2265 01:52:40,412 --> 01:52:43,093 Speaker 2: you for listening everyone. The great and powerful Hea the 2266 01:52:43,093 --> 01:52:45,692 Speaker 2: Boop of the Ellen is up after four and she 2267 01:52:45,732 --> 01:52:48,293 Speaker 2: has the country's top fuel and porter on whether we 2268 01:52:48,333 --> 01:52:50,692 Speaker 2: will ever need to start rationing. But right now, Tyler, 2269 01:52:50,812 --> 01:52:53,173 Speaker 2: why am I playing this absolute banger? 2270 01:52:53,293 --> 01:52:55,452 Speaker 3: What a tune? Go your own way, Fleetwood make This 2271 01:52:55,492 --> 01:52:57,612 Speaker 3: could actually apply to any of the topics we did today, 2272 01:52:57,612 --> 01:53:01,452 Speaker 3: But I assume we had a great discussion about divorce 2273 01:53:01,532 --> 01:53:03,692 Speaker 3: and this is I mean, this is one of the 2274 01:53:03,732 --> 01:53:05,692 Speaker 3: songs for the ages in terms of breakouts, isn't it. 2275 01:53:05,772 --> 01:53:06,333 Speaker 2: It certainly is? 2276 01:53:06,532 --> 01:53:07,452 Speaker 3: Yeah, what a tune? 2277 01:53:07,452 --> 01:53:07,812 Speaker 14: All right? 2278 01:53:08,532 --> 01:53:11,173 Speaker 2: Ye Live from twelve tomorrow for more met in Tailer 2279 01:53:11,213 --> 01:53:12,652 Speaker 2: afternoons until they end given taste the. 2280 01:53:12,652 --> 01:53:16,612 Speaker 3: Keylis I never think. 2281 01:53:19,973 --> 01:53:22,612 Speaker 1: For more from news Talks at b Listen live on 2282 01:53:22,692 --> 01:53:25,652 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2283 01:53:25,692 --> 01:53:28,293 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio