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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from news Talks at by Meta twice god once,

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Speaker 1: but maybe call Pete first. Peter wolf Camp, the Resident

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Speaker 1: Builder News Talk said, b.

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Speaker 2: A house sis a whole, even when it's dark, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even when

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Speaker 2: a dog is too old to borrow, and when you're

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Speaker 2: sitting at the table trying not to start.

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Speaker 3: Scissor home even when we are Benn, even when you're therellone.

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Speaker 2: House sizzle home, even when there's ghost even when you've

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Speaker 2: got around from the ones you love, your moll screaming

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Speaker 2: pains appearing in funder.

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Speaker 4: Locals.

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Speaker 5: We's well when they're gone leaving never even when will

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Speaker 5: even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, a very very good morning, and welcome along to

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Speaker 6: the Resident Builder on Sunday. That's with me Pete off Camp,

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Speaker 6: the Resident Builder, And this is an opportunity for you

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Speaker 6: to ask questions, to discuss, to debate, to kick around

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Speaker 6: a couple of ideas about all things building, renovations, alterations,

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Speaker 6: new products, contractors, rules and regulations, anything to do with

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Speaker 6: building and construction. We can talk about it on the

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Speaker 6: show this morning. So I trust you've had a good

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Speaker 6: week as we sort of look forward to another short week.

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Speaker 6: Actually Martiniki Holiday on Friday. So if there was some

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Speaker 6: projects perhaps I always tend to think about long weekends

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Speaker 6: as an opportunity, perhaps, you know, maybe to get in

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Speaker 6: another little project done with that extra day. So if

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Speaker 6: there was something that you had to crack at, maybe

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Speaker 6: there's always projects that we don't quite get finished. Perhaps

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Speaker 6: this long weekend coming up is going to be the opportunity.

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Speaker 6: And if you need to chat about it, talk about it,

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Speaker 6: think about a couple of ideas. Check whether or not

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Speaker 6: the compliance side of it is correct. It stacks up,

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Speaker 6: what sort of work can you do without necessarily requiring

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Speaker 6: a building consent? What type of work does require a

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Speaker 6: building consent? What type of materials you'd like to use?

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Speaker 6: All of these things we can talk about on the show.

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Speaker 6: So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 6: to call this morning on the show. Actually no special

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Speaker 6: renovations that you would like to talk about. Of course,

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Speaker 6: as always, we'll jump into the garden with Red climb

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Speaker 6: past at around eight point thirty this morning. But right

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Speaker 6: now it's your opportunity to ask questions, discuss, debate, and

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Speaker 6: maybe you know, challenge a few assumptions that I might

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Speaker 6: have made. I read out that text last week someone

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Speaker 6: accusing me of not being forward thinking. Excuse me not

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Speaker 6: being forward thinking, not not sort of moving with the times. Oh,

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Speaker 6: I'm happy to take those sorts of questions and or

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Speaker 6: comments as well. This morning on the program, if I

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Speaker 6: opportunity sometimes just to sort of, you know, stand around

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Speaker 6: remember some other stuff that I've done, the classic thing

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Speaker 6: their licensing. So for carpenters essentially and other building related trades,

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Speaker 6: you need to register every year as an LBP to

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Speaker 6: You need to answer a whole lot of questions that

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Speaker 6: I got roundly criticized the other week someone I suggested

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Speaker 6: and someone said, no, that's really bad advice. Don't want

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Speaker 6: you don't have to do it. Well, I actually think

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Speaker 6: it's part of the game now, it's part of the system.

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Speaker 6: You're going to do restricted building work, you need to

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Speaker 6: as my opinion. Happy to discuss that as well. But

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Speaker 6: right now, it's your opportunity. What's on your mind? What

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Speaker 6: We're happy to talk about all those sorts of things.

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Speaker 6: That is one of the beauties of field days as well.

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Speaker 6: There's always something there that I hadn't seen before. And

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Speaker 6: other related trades. So I bought a set of tapered

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Speaker 6: You're here with Pete wolf Camp. We're taking your calls.

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Speaker 6: It's eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Text is up and

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Speaker 6: into it. So you're tuned to do the talking. Oh,

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Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to corps.

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Speaker 1: Doing of the house storting. The garden asked Pete for

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Speaker 1: a hand. The resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp call eight

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Speaker 6: Write own news talks. They'd be let's get amongst it.

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Speaker 6: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 6: Tony greetings.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, good morning peach. During in quest and the introduction

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Speaker 7: what is the difference between if you engage one of

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Speaker 7: you weren't happy with the job or there was something

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Speaker 7: wrong with it. Yes, what comeback do you have with

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Speaker 7: a fidelity fund where you know, the main governing body

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Speaker 7: clarification of this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, it's Look, it's a really good question. I

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Speaker 6: suppose in the well, what it is ultimately is that

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Speaker 6: the Licensed Building Practitioner Scheme is administered by the Ministry

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Speaker 6: of Business, Innovation and Employment, right, so it's administered by

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Speaker 6: the government. So the if there is a dispute, for example,

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Speaker 6: the Licensed Building Practitioners Scheme and have them investigate the

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that there is While fines are

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Speaker 6: go to the consumer. So in that sense, it's not

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Speaker 6: a consumer protection scheme. It's a scheme and it's ys

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Speaker 6: and so once the concept of restricted building work came in.

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Speaker 6: So in a nutshell, restricted building work is all building

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Speaker 6: work covered by a building consent. So if you need

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Speaker 6: to do work that includes a building consent, new builds,

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Speaker 6: obviously extensions, significant alterations, et cetera, you need to have

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Speaker 7: Right, there's no actual fidelity fund or anything like that. Well,

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Speaker 7: they don't have a situation where somebody the governing body

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Speaker 7: you wouldn't have any comeback with you. You'd have to

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Speaker 8: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: There are other schemes. So there's broadly speaking, in New Zealand,

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Speaker 6: there's two other building associations. So there's New Zealand Certified

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Speaker 6: And then you begin a process with them. But that's

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Speaker 6: not part of the License Building Practitioner scheme.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so a master builder would have to be an LBP.

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Speaker 6: Then I can't say yes to that.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad to cleanse your boys. Anyway, I was a

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Speaker 6: It's terrible, terrible moodcasting on my pasture. But yeah, I

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Speaker 6: mean one of the things actually in amongst a myriad

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Speaker 6: my own feeling is that it takes too long and

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Speaker 6: The other thing that has changed from when the scheme

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Speaker 6: prior to that, any dispute that you might have had

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Speaker 6: B It's just listening to the promo, talking people's opinions

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Speaker 10: Probably a little bit of background.

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Speaker 4: I am a.

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Speaker 10: Engineer, professionally trained in Member of Engineering, New Zealand. I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, see, I I mean ultimately it the work will

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Speaker 6: Again, you know, it might be one of those things

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Speaker 6: Design only if they have a specific design license. So

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Speaker 11: LBP okay, So I do have to go down that route,

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Speaker 6: Awesome, So please I could help camera all the very best.

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Speaker 12: Good morning, Peter, how are you very well? I'm in

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Speaker 12: So I was there at the time at the fags

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Speaker 13: Refreshed, you know.

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Speaker 12: So I've done the kitchen.

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Speaker 12: Finger jointed batons and had to pack them to try

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Speaker 6: Certainly been more rigid. I'll tell you what I'm thinking

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Speaker 6: So it's four hundred wide, tongue grew fifteen mil thick,

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Speaker 6: the joists or ceiling joists that are there under the truss,

432
00:25:46,095 --> 00:25:49,095
Speaker 6: straight through the old sagging pine ex board and it

433
00:25:49,135 --> 00:25:53,455
Speaker 6: would self support. It would stiffen up that whole sort

434
00:25:53,495 --> 00:25:57,455
Speaker 6: of sagging ceiling and then give you a nice tongue

435
00:25:57,495 --> 00:25:59,775
Speaker 6: and groove ceiling that you can just paint or yeah,

436
00:25:59,935 --> 00:26:07,055
Speaker 6: just paint it. So J panel. The width on those,

437
00:26:07,495 --> 00:26:10,295
Speaker 6: they're four hundred wide, so they are four hundred wide

438
00:26:10,535 --> 00:26:12,455
Speaker 6: panels with a tongue and groove right, so you get

439
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Speaker 6: a little v groove at the either end. I use

440
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Speaker 6: them on a little cabin a couple of years ago

441
00:26:18,015 --> 00:26:20,815
Speaker 6: where I wanted the back wall and the ceiling to

442
00:26:21,535 --> 00:26:24,175
Speaker 6: have a bit of detail, so I ran it vertically

443
00:26:24,255 --> 00:26:26,375
Speaker 6: up the wall and then across the ceiling with the

444
00:26:26,535 --> 00:26:31,175
Speaker 6: lines lining up. Really easy to install, very very durable.

445
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Speaker 7: Well that's what I thought.

446
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Speaker 12: It might push some of that sagging point X back

447
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Speaker 12: up and it'd be a bit less labor intens for

448
00:26:37,295 --> 00:26:39,335
Speaker 12: trying to get a nice finish. But when I looked

449
00:26:39,335 --> 00:26:42,935
Speaker 12: at the data sheet for that tribboard, yet expansion gaps,

450
00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:45,255
Speaker 12: and I wondered, when people use it, whether it beyond

451
00:26:45,295 --> 00:26:47,855
Speaker 12: wolves or ceilings, can you stop it like you would

452
00:26:47,855 --> 00:26:49,815
Speaker 12: normal plaster board to get a smooth finish.

453
00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:53,295
Speaker 6: You can stop it. Often what people do is because

454
00:26:53,615 --> 00:26:56,175
Speaker 6: the stopping tends to relate to you know other types

455
00:26:56,215 --> 00:26:59,535
Speaker 6: of wall board where you know that the joint is

456
00:26:59,575 --> 00:27:01,975
Speaker 6: designed to be concealed. I actually think to be fair

457
00:27:02,895 --> 00:27:05,095
Speaker 6: if on that data sheet, what you're probably seeing is

458
00:27:05,135 --> 00:27:08,615
Speaker 6: the large triboard panels, right, which if you fix them up,

459
00:27:09,095 --> 00:27:11,575
Speaker 6: you just arrast the edge and leave a fraction of

460
00:27:11,615 --> 00:27:13,015
Speaker 6: a gap. You can fill that with a bit of

461
00:27:13,095 --> 00:27:17,535
Speaker 6: ceilant and just leave it as an exposed detail, because again,

462
00:27:17,655 --> 00:27:21,135
Speaker 6: one of the things worth stopping is often stopping moves

463
00:27:21,135 --> 00:27:23,975
Speaker 6: and then you get cracks, right, so you could use

464
00:27:24,215 --> 00:27:26,375
Speaker 6: that's the other option with the tryboarder is to use

465
00:27:26,455 --> 00:27:31,015
Speaker 6: the big wide panels, So twelve hundred they'd self support.

466
00:27:31,135 --> 00:27:34,335
Speaker 6: You could fix through them, stop those holes, screw holes

467
00:27:34,415 --> 00:27:37,295
Speaker 6: or whatever you're using, and then just leave a little

468
00:27:37,455 --> 00:27:41,695
Speaker 6: express detail on the junctions and then paint the surface.

469
00:27:42,015 --> 00:27:43,975
Speaker 6: But that would be a good option as well, And

470
00:27:44,095 --> 00:27:47,095
Speaker 6: that'll come in a range of lengths and a range

471
00:27:47,295 --> 00:27:51,135
Speaker 6: of thicknesses, but twelve or fifteen mil will probably self

472
00:27:51,215 --> 00:27:52,535
Speaker 6: support over that space.

473
00:27:53,935 --> 00:27:55,455
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no, that's cool.

474
00:27:55,735 --> 00:27:57,015
Speaker 6: Yeah, check it out.

475
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Speaker 8: Awesome, all the our best.

476
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Speaker 6: Yeah, take care see then, right, oh eight hundred and

477
00:28:04,215 --> 00:28:06,815
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number to call. Take one more

478
00:28:06,855 --> 00:28:10,535
Speaker 6: call before the break Sandy. Hello there, Hi Pete. How

479
00:28:10,575 --> 00:28:13,895
Speaker 6: are you, Sandy? I'm very well, thank you, it's good.

480
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Speaker 15: Hey, I have homes. I'm wondering what sort of consents

481
00:28:23,015 --> 00:28:25,295
Speaker 15: or what I need to do with regards to putting

482
00:28:25,335 --> 00:28:28,295
Speaker 15: them on a section. The one I'm currently looking at

483
00:28:28,575 --> 00:28:33,815
Speaker 15: is on timber piles in a paddock which is transportable

484
00:28:33,895 --> 00:28:38,255
Speaker 15: to a section which has no convenants, which is great,

485
00:28:39,855 --> 00:28:43,415
Speaker 15: but obviously I need to get piles put in that

486
00:28:43,495 --> 00:28:46,575
Speaker 15: would trigger a building consent? Would that be right?

487
00:28:48,855 --> 00:28:49,015
Speaker 10: All?

488
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Speaker 6: Basically at the moment until legislation changes, Yes, any habitable

489
00:28:54,695 --> 00:29:00,095
Speaker 6: space will require a building consent. So if the building itself,

490
00:29:00,215 --> 00:29:03,935
Speaker 6: the transportable house, is able to you can prove compliance

491
00:29:03,975 --> 00:29:07,175
Speaker 6: with the building code. Then obviously when you you'll want

492
00:29:07,295 --> 00:29:11,255
Speaker 6: to prove that the foundations are also compliant with the

493
00:29:11,295 --> 00:29:11,895
Speaker 6: building code.

494
00:29:12,895 --> 00:29:16,535
Speaker 15: Sure, and then it doesn't come obviously with a CCC

495
00:29:16,695 --> 00:29:20,695
Speaker 15: because none of the services are set up. So in

496
00:29:20,855 --> 00:29:23,055
Speaker 15: the past, if I've built a new house, I've got

497
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:26,855
Speaker 15: to provide all that information for the CCC. So how

498
00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:30,135
Speaker 15: would I go about obtaining the CCC if I haven't

499
00:29:30,135 --> 00:29:30,815
Speaker 15: built the house.

500
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Speaker 6: I'm just thinking too with this particular transportable or tiny home.

501
00:29:36,935 --> 00:29:40,255
Speaker 15: I presume it is ninety eight square meters.

502
00:29:40,335 --> 00:29:45,575
Speaker 6: Okay, well it's all right, so that where you're locating it,

503
00:29:45,815 --> 00:29:51,655
Speaker 6: that's obviously land that you own. Yes, okay. Why wouldn't

504
00:29:51,695 --> 00:29:53,095
Speaker 6: you get a building consent for it?

505
00:29:54,415 --> 00:29:57,215
Speaker 15: No, well I would, but I'm just wondering what Yeah, definitely,

506
00:29:57,255 --> 00:29:59,095
Speaker 15: I just wanted to know whether it was triggered if

507
00:29:59,135 --> 00:30:02,455
Speaker 15: you are having to put in piles and stuff.

508
00:30:04,095 --> 00:30:06,975
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's necessarily triggered by we might

509
00:30:07,015 --> 00:30:09,335
Speaker 6: be at cross purposes. I don't think it's about the piles.

510
00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:11,215
Speaker 6: I think it's just about the fact that you've moved

511
00:30:11,295 --> 00:30:15,775
Speaker 6: a habitable building onto a new site and that all

512
00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:20,015
Speaker 6: of that building work. The So the building itself that

513
00:30:20,095 --> 00:30:23,975
Speaker 6: you're moving on, do you think that building will comply

514
00:30:24,215 --> 00:30:25,255
Speaker 6: with the building code?

515
00:30:26,175 --> 00:30:26,335
Speaker 16: Yes?

516
00:30:26,775 --> 00:30:29,175
Speaker 6: Okay, So we know that the building is going to

517
00:30:29,175 --> 00:30:31,255
Speaker 6: comply with the building code. So there's it's got the

518
00:30:31,335 --> 00:30:33,775
Speaker 6: right insulation, it's got the right amount of ventilation, et cetera,

519
00:30:33,815 --> 00:30:36,895
Speaker 6: et cetera. You're going to move it on. That part

520
00:30:37,535 --> 00:30:39,695
Speaker 6: requires part of that building consent is going to be

521
00:30:39,735 --> 00:30:42,175
Speaker 6: the foundation. So you need to prove to counsel that

522
00:30:42,255 --> 00:30:45,535
Speaker 6: the foundations are right. Now there are some options around

523
00:30:45,575 --> 00:30:48,575
Speaker 6: foundations now, so conventionally we would dig a hole put

524
00:30:48,575 --> 00:30:52,535
Speaker 6: a timber pile in it. Screw piles have become increasingly

525
00:30:52,815 --> 00:30:57,695
Speaker 6: popular and our code compliant, so that's there are some

526
00:30:57,815 --> 00:31:00,695
Speaker 6: advantages to that in terms of you don't have to

527
00:31:00,735 --> 00:31:03,175
Speaker 6: dig a hole, you don't have to order concrete, et cetera.

528
00:31:03,975 --> 00:31:06,495
Speaker 6: The team will come in, set the piles up or

529
00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:09,055
Speaker 6: set the piles to the in the right location, to

530
00:31:09,175 --> 00:31:12,175
Speaker 6: the right height as per the plans, and then the

531
00:31:12,255 --> 00:31:15,815
Speaker 6: building is simply dropped on top and fastened down. Sure,

532
00:31:16,015 --> 00:31:20,535
Speaker 6: so that's less disruptive arguably, So that'll be part of it.

533
00:31:20,655 --> 00:31:23,255
Speaker 6: And then I guess once the building is located, you'll

534
00:31:23,295 --> 00:31:25,255
Speaker 6: need to connect those services. So you need to prove

535
00:31:25,335 --> 00:31:29,415
Speaker 6: to council that the sewer is being managed properly. If

536
00:31:29,455 --> 00:31:31,735
Speaker 6: you've got presuming you're going to go for tanks for

537
00:31:31,855 --> 00:31:35,055
Speaker 6: water supply or are you going to connect to mainz.

538
00:31:35,495 --> 00:31:37,815
Speaker 15: No, I've got the mains water available.

539
00:31:37,655 --> 00:31:40,735
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm curious. Then will you need to get a

540
00:31:40,815 --> 00:31:42,975
Speaker 6: new meter or are you going to tap into an

541
00:31:42,975 --> 00:31:46,735
Speaker 6: existing source? Okay, so I will need me right, have

542
00:31:46,855 --> 00:31:47,735
Speaker 6: you had that priced?

543
00:31:48,935 --> 00:31:49,695
Speaker 15: I haven't yet.

544
00:31:51,615 --> 00:31:53,975
Speaker 6: Make sure you're sitting down when you open that email,

545
00:31:55,095 --> 00:31:58,735
Speaker 6: particularly if you're in Auckland. As my advice, So, okay,

546
00:31:58,775 --> 00:32:00,015
Speaker 6: so you're going to have to go and apply for

547
00:32:00,055 --> 00:32:02,775
Speaker 6: a new meter. You'll need to run a new services

548
00:32:02,855 --> 00:32:07,695
Speaker 6: where's power coming from a corner of section? Okay, so

549
00:32:07,735 --> 00:32:09,495
Speaker 6: you've got to do all of that and then, as

550
00:32:09,575 --> 00:32:13,575
Speaker 6: per any building consent, once your services are connected, the

551
00:32:13,655 --> 00:32:17,935
Speaker 6: buildings complete, then you get the final inspection and then

552
00:32:18,135 --> 00:32:23,135
Speaker 6: submit all of the documentation for a certificate of code compliance.

553
00:32:24,295 --> 00:32:27,615
Speaker 15: Yep, cool, Okay, it's good what the arek and the

554
00:32:27,695 --> 00:32:32,295
Speaker 15: costs would be with regards to like screw piles, for

555
00:32:32,415 --> 00:32:34,895
Speaker 15: example on a ninety eight screw meet a home.

556
00:32:36,615 --> 00:32:38,415
Speaker 6: To be fair, I've seen them done, but I've never

557
00:32:38,455 --> 00:32:43,255
Speaker 6: actually done the pricing. Have a look at stop digging

558
00:32:44,735 --> 00:32:47,695
Speaker 6: online and they'll they'll either be able to price off

559
00:32:47,735 --> 00:32:49,655
Speaker 6: the plans or they'll send someone out to have a look.

560
00:32:50,575 --> 00:32:50,975
Speaker 16: Perfect.

561
00:32:51,255 --> 00:32:54,495
Speaker 6: Great, Thanks love, nice talking with you, and good luck

562
00:32:54,535 --> 00:32:55,055
Speaker 6: with the project.

563
00:32:55,735 --> 00:32:56,455
Speaker 15: Thank you so much.

564
00:32:56,455 --> 00:32:58,575
Speaker 6: All right, take care and all of us Boby. Then

565
00:32:59,095 --> 00:33:03,335
Speaker 6: your news talks be we're talking all things building construction rules, regulations,

566
00:33:03,935 --> 00:33:07,775
Speaker 6: Who can do what in terms of you know, what

567
00:33:08,655 --> 00:33:12,495
Speaker 6: trades or what qualification or what, well, not even experience.

568
00:33:12,575 --> 00:33:16,815
Speaker 6: It's really just what qualifications are required, what level of

569
00:33:19,095 --> 00:33:21,695
Speaker 6: whether it's LBPS, when you need an engineer, when you

570
00:33:21,735 --> 00:33:24,135
Speaker 6: don't need an engineer, and that sort of thing. The

571
00:33:24,215 --> 00:33:26,815
Speaker 6: other thing, just thinking about Sandy's call just a moment ago.

572
00:33:30,535 --> 00:33:30,735
Speaker 2: More.

573
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Speaker 6: It's always been the responsibility the homeowner to get the CCC.

574
00:33:35,015 --> 00:33:37,375
Speaker 6: So you can get your builder to do it, but

575
00:33:37,495 --> 00:33:39,935
Speaker 6: you have to be really specific in your contract to

576
00:33:40,055 --> 00:33:45,695
Speaker 6: say this is part of your job, because there is

577
00:33:46,055 --> 00:33:48,895
Speaker 6: literally no obligation for the builder once they've finished the

578
00:33:48,975 --> 00:33:53,135
Speaker 6: work to do the CCC part because it involves a

579
00:33:53,135 --> 00:33:55,895
Speaker 6: whole other trades that they might not have been involved with. Anyway,

580
00:33:56,735 --> 00:33:58,535
Speaker 6: you can get people to do it, and I've done

581
00:33:58,535 --> 00:34:01,255
Speaker 6: it for clients on a number of occasions, but ultimate

582
00:34:01,335 --> 00:34:04,455
Speaker 6: responsibility for getting the CCC is on the homeowner. Don't

583
00:34:04,455 --> 00:34:06,575
Speaker 6: forget that, or the developer. If it's a new build.

584
00:34:06,735 --> 00:34:08,375
Speaker 6: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

585
00:34:08,455 --> 00:34:10,615
Speaker 6: number to call six forty six here at Newstalks EDB,

586
00:34:11,535 --> 00:34:13,575
Speaker 6: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

587
00:34:13,815 --> 00:34:17,135
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

588
00:34:17,375 --> 00:34:19,455
Speaker 1: on News Talks NB just.

589
00:34:19,495 --> 00:34:23,295
Speaker 6: Kind of text in from someone actually regular contributor, and

590
00:34:23,415 --> 00:34:27,095
Speaker 6: I always enjoy the text from Craig Pete. Hey read

591
00:34:27,135 --> 00:34:30,295
Speaker 6: the latest government announcement. If your new house build has solar,

592
00:34:30,335 --> 00:34:33,175
Speaker 6: then councils will be required to process the building consent

593
00:34:33,255 --> 00:34:36,335
Speaker 6: within ten days. I can see this being taken advantage

594
00:34:36,375 --> 00:34:39,815
Speaker 6: of every new build or new build building consent application

595
00:34:39,935 --> 00:34:43,935
Speaker 6: will include solar to half the processing time. Once BC

596
00:34:44,175 --> 00:34:47,815
Speaker 6: is approved, it's very easy to delete the solar. Not

597
00:34:47,895 --> 00:34:50,495
Speaker 6: sure how the government can close the s loophole, Craig,

598
00:34:50,575 --> 00:34:52,935
Speaker 6: thanks for pointing that out. I kind of heard that

599
00:34:53,015 --> 00:34:57,455
Speaker 6: on the news this week. So essentially, folks, the announcement

600
00:34:57,575 --> 00:35:00,895
Speaker 6: this week is that households with solar panels on their

601
00:35:00,975 --> 00:35:02,735
Speaker 6: ruse will be able to send more power back to

602
00:35:02,815 --> 00:35:05,215
Speaker 6: the grid. That's one part of it. Also, if a

603
00:35:05,495 --> 00:35:09,855
Speaker 6: building can sent is submitted with sol showing on the roofs,

604
00:35:10,815 --> 00:35:13,575
Speaker 6: then there is now a requirement that council need to

605
00:35:13,695 --> 00:35:17,455
Speaker 6: process that consent within ten days, down from the standard

606
00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:24,455
Speaker 6: twenty days, which is interesting. Someone's accused me of being negative.

607
00:35:24,495 --> 00:35:26,655
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's negative. It's maybe just realistic

608
00:35:26,815 --> 00:35:28,735
Speaker 6: or just slightly cynical, given that I've got a few

609
00:35:28,775 --> 00:35:31,815
Speaker 6: gray hairs. So I'm just wondering whether in this instance

610
00:35:31,895 --> 00:35:34,495
Speaker 6: what's going to happen is that someone will put solar

611
00:35:34,535 --> 00:35:38,495
Speaker 6: panels on. And that's great before that, but it just

612
00:35:38,615 --> 00:35:41,175
Speaker 6: means that someone who submits a building consent that doesn't

613
00:35:41,175 --> 00:35:43,015
Speaker 6: have panels that goes to the bottom of the queue.

614
00:35:43,175 --> 00:35:46,775
Speaker 6: Let's hope that that doesn't happen. But either way, and

615
00:35:47,215 --> 00:35:51,175
Speaker 6: to your point, Craig read the text, I would think

616
00:35:51,295 --> 00:35:56,015
Speaker 6: that if, for example, your building consent has solar panels showing,

617
00:35:56,575 --> 00:35:59,655
Speaker 6: and then at final inspection the inspector turns up and

618
00:35:59,815 --> 00:36:02,175
Speaker 6: notes that there are no solar panels on the roof,

619
00:36:02,295 --> 00:36:05,335
Speaker 6: then that would be a fail on the final inspection,

620
00:36:05,615 --> 00:36:07,575
Speaker 6: and then you wouldn't get CCC. That would be the

621
00:36:07,615 --> 00:36:12,055
Speaker 6: simplest way of closing that particular loophole. Dennis A very

622
00:36:12,055 --> 00:36:12,495
Speaker 6: good morning.

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00:36:13,215 --> 00:36:16,215
Speaker 8: Yes, good morning, Pete. Do you know of the product

624
00:36:16,295 --> 00:36:19,095
Speaker 8: called Plantation Bamboo deck.

625
00:36:19,975 --> 00:36:21,815
Speaker 6: Certainly I've heard of it. I haven't used it, but

626
00:36:22,175 --> 00:36:23,695
Speaker 6: i've heard of it, and i've seen it out there.

627
00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:27,295
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm about to put it in quite a large

628
00:36:27,375 --> 00:36:30,495
Speaker 8: death and I've seen the product, and I like to

629
00:36:30,615 --> 00:36:32,535
Speaker 8: look at the product and all that sort of stuff.

630
00:36:33,175 --> 00:36:34,735
Speaker 8: But I was wanting to know if you've had any

631
00:36:34,775 --> 00:36:38,535
Speaker 8: experience or knows anyone who's put it in and how

632
00:36:38,575 --> 00:36:39,055
Speaker 8: it lasts.

633
00:36:41,215 --> 00:36:46,095
Speaker 6: Again, I haven't personally used it. Typically, I've either done

634
00:36:46,215 --> 00:36:50,215
Speaker 6: composites over the last however many years, or solid timber,

635
00:36:50,335 --> 00:36:55,255
Speaker 6: whether that's hardwood or softwood. I guess this is one

636
00:36:55,255 --> 00:37:00,855
Speaker 6: of those things with warranties, right, Like often manufacturers supply

637
00:37:00,895 --> 00:37:04,855
Speaker 6: as a product will talk about, you know, we're issuing

638
00:37:04,895 --> 00:37:08,055
Speaker 6: a ten year warranty for the product. You as the consumer,

639
00:37:08,135 --> 00:37:09,855
Speaker 6: then need to make up your mind as to whether

640
00:37:09,975 --> 00:37:11,615
Speaker 6: or not you feel that that company's going to be

641
00:37:11,695 --> 00:37:15,375
Speaker 6: in business to stand by that warranty in ten years time.

642
00:37:16,615 --> 00:37:18,855
Speaker 6: And that's that's kind of what it comes down to, a.

643
00:37:19,095 --> 00:37:21,215
Speaker 8: You know what I mean, Well, that's they say it's

644
00:37:21,215 --> 00:37:24,535
Speaker 8: sort of a twenty five year warranty on it. Right,

645
00:37:24,615 --> 00:37:26,175
Speaker 8: twenty five years there's.

646
00:37:26,055 --> 00:37:31,455
Speaker 6: Quite a long time or something that's pretty impressive, because well,

647
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,375
Speaker 6: I'm just well, I've just ripped up a deck that

648
00:37:34,655 --> 00:37:38,295
Speaker 6: you know, didn't last that long, and I've certainly replaced

649
00:37:38,295 --> 00:37:41,535
Speaker 6: plenty of decking where you know, fifteen twenty years and

650
00:37:41,655 --> 00:37:43,815
Speaker 6: it's looking at it being at the end of its life.

651
00:37:44,735 --> 00:37:47,095
Speaker 6: Do you know much about it's apart from the fact

652
00:37:47,095 --> 00:37:51,135
Speaker 6: that it's bamboo obviously, how that is then bonded together.

653
00:37:52,975 --> 00:37:55,455
Speaker 8: So what I understand is put together with a resin

654
00:37:56,095 --> 00:38:01,815
Speaker 8: and high pressure right system. But you know, I like

655
00:38:01,935 --> 00:38:05,335
Speaker 8: to look as a product, but I don't want to

656
00:38:05,615 --> 00:38:10,135
Speaker 8: spread forty dollars sure a product and have to replace

657
00:38:10,135 --> 00:38:11,055
Speaker 8: it at six months time.

658
00:38:14,215 --> 00:38:18,975
Speaker 6: Look, I've again my own personal experiences. To the best

659
00:38:19,015 --> 00:38:20,735
Speaker 6: of my knowledge, I don't think I've ever used it

660
00:38:20,935 --> 00:38:25,535
Speaker 6: right now. That's that's not saying that it's not worth investigating.

661
00:38:25,535 --> 00:38:28,055
Speaker 6: It's not saying it's not worth using. I'm happy for

662
00:38:28,175 --> 00:38:30,815
Speaker 6: someone to text me and go, hey, look I've used

663
00:38:30,815 --> 00:38:32,335
Speaker 6: it and I think it's great. Or I've used it

664
00:38:32,415 --> 00:38:33,855
Speaker 6: and yeah maybe not so much.

665
00:38:35,255 --> 00:38:38,855
Speaker 8: Yeah, yep, okay, well I'll keep swigging around.

666
00:38:38,975 --> 00:38:39,135
Speaker 9: Yeah.

667
00:38:39,135 --> 00:38:43,295
Speaker 6: Absolutely, in the sense it is the classic caveat impore

668
00:38:43,655 --> 00:38:46,095
Speaker 6: buyer beware, you can make your own decisions. I've got

669
00:38:46,135 --> 00:38:49,855
Speaker 6: no reason to doubt it, you know, obviously, things like

670
00:38:49,975 --> 00:38:53,575
Speaker 6: that because they're not a critical element of a building

671
00:38:54,135 --> 00:38:58,215
Speaker 6: that probably don't need or require, you know, code mark

672
00:38:58,335 --> 00:39:02,015
Speaker 6: or brand's appraisal or something like that. Because if there

673
00:39:02,095 --> 00:39:03,735
Speaker 6: is a failure, it's relatively low.

674
00:39:03,735 --> 00:39:07,855
Speaker 8: Risk they actually clearing as well.

675
00:39:09,175 --> 00:39:13,895
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, interesting, Hey, look at the stage you. I

676
00:39:13,975 --> 00:39:19,175
Speaker 6: will leave you to make your own decisions. Do you

677
00:39:19,295 --> 00:39:19,695
Speaker 6: take care?

678
00:39:19,775 --> 00:39:19,975
Speaker 8: Bye?

679
00:39:20,055 --> 00:39:23,215
Speaker 6: Bye bye all of this, Pete, that says a text,

680
00:39:23,255 --> 00:39:25,695
Speaker 6: and no one wants to hear your cynicism, which by

681
00:39:25,735 --> 00:39:28,135
Speaker 6: the way is spelled with a C, not an S.

682
00:39:28,815 --> 00:39:33,375
Speaker 6: It's so negative and boring and unprofessional. Thanks. Oh, eight

683
00:39:33,495 --> 00:39:37,015
Speaker 6: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We

684
00:39:37,215 --> 00:39:40,695
Speaker 6: might just hold Jane, if that's okay, till after the break.

685
00:39:40,735 --> 00:39:43,655
Speaker 6: We're talking bathrooms and so on. Hey, Pete, you don't

686
00:39:43,695 --> 00:39:45,975
Speaker 6: need a building consent for solar only in the case

687
00:39:46,015 --> 00:39:48,095
Speaker 6: of a solar farm, so it's unlikely to hold up

688
00:39:48,095 --> 00:39:51,575
Speaker 6: a CCC. I hear what you're saying. But if you

689
00:39:52,775 --> 00:39:56,175
Speaker 6: got your building consent and use the I'm going to

690
00:39:56,215 --> 00:39:59,255
Speaker 6: get a process faster because I've got solar panels on

691
00:39:59,415 --> 00:40:04,535
Speaker 6: it as per the proposal from the government, then surely

692
00:40:04,935 --> 00:40:07,615
Speaker 6: it would be there on the building consent. And while

693
00:40:07,975 --> 00:40:11,855
Speaker 6: I agree with you, what they're saying is councils. Yeah.

694
00:40:11,975 --> 00:40:14,215
Speaker 6: The government is also stepping in to clarify that a

695
00:40:14,255 --> 00:40:18,175
Speaker 6: building consent was not needed to install rooftop solar panels.

696
00:40:18,455 --> 00:40:20,775
Speaker 6: And that's been a fairly common question. You know, people

697
00:40:20,775 --> 00:40:23,175
Speaker 6: will say, look, I've got an existing building, or I'm

698
00:40:23,215 --> 00:40:24,655
Speaker 6: going to do a new build, and I'm going to

699
00:40:24,695 --> 00:40:28,775
Speaker 6: take the opportunity of wiring because often it's the wiring.

700
00:40:29,455 --> 00:40:33,815
Speaker 6: Putting solar panels on is relatively straightforward. Getting the cabling

701
00:40:34,095 --> 00:40:37,575
Speaker 6: from the roof where the solar panels are down to

702
00:40:37,695 --> 00:40:41,095
Speaker 6: the distribution board can be a little bit challenging in

703
00:40:41,255 --> 00:40:44,015
Speaker 6: existing building, so it's a perfect time to do it

704
00:40:44,175 --> 00:40:46,295
Speaker 6: in a new build because obviously the walls are open,

705
00:40:46,335 --> 00:40:49,415
Speaker 6: you can run all that cabling. I've often suggested to

706
00:40:49,455 --> 00:40:51,775
Speaker 6: people in a new build, even if you don't do

707
00:40:51,975 --> 00:40:55,975
Speaker 6: the solar panels, put the cable in. Put some cables

708
00:40:56,015 --> 00:40:59,255
Speaker 6: in that might allow someone later on to do solar panels.

709
00:40:59,295 --> 00:41:01,975
Speaker 6: Makes it so much easier, So very clear, and our

710
00:41:02,095 --> 00:41:04,175
Speaker 6: government is going to clarify that that you don't need

711
00:41:04,215 --> 00:41:06,855
Speaker 6: a building consent for solar panels. But if you do

712
00:41:06,975 --> 00:41:10,415
Speaker 6: include solar panels in you're on the design for a

713
00:41:10,495 --> 00:41:14,575
Speaker 6: building consent or a house design, then that will be

714
00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:17,655
Speaker 6: process quicker. So I guess the check on that to

715
00:41:17,815 --> 00:41:19,775
Speaker 6: ensure that people aren't brought in the system is at

716
00:41:19,895 --> 00:41:24,175
Speaker 6: final inspection. If you got it process quicker because you

717
00:41:24,215 --> 00:41:26,055
Speaker 6: had panels. We're going to make sure the panels are

718
00:41:26,135 --> 00:41:29,415
Speaker 6: on the roof. But yes, you can see some of

719
00:41:29,455 --> 00:41:30,735
Speaker 6: the challenges and that back.

720
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Speaker 1: After the break, helping you get those DIY projects done right.

721
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Speaker 1: The resident builder with Peta Wolfcamp call, Oh eight hundred

722
00:41:38,335 --> 00:41:40,215
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty youth talk ZB.

723
00:41:40,895 --> 00:41:43,055
Speaker 6: Well, welcome back to the show. It is six and

724
00:41:43,095 --> 00:41:45,575
Speaker 6: a half minutes after seven yourth peak. Wolf Camp resident

725
00:41:45,615 --> 00:41:49,135
Speaker 6: builder right through till nine o'clock this morning. As always

726
00:41:49,215 --> 00:41:51,175
Speaker 6: we jump into the garden with roid climb passed from

727
00:41:51,215 --> 00:41:53,655
Speaker 6: eight point thirty. If you'd like to join us right now,

728
00:41:53,735 --> 00:41:56,055
Speaker 6: we have lines free. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

729
00:41:56,175 --> 00:41:59,015
Speaker 6: eighty is that number to call? Just a quick one

730
00:41:59,095 --> 00:42:03,095
Speaker 6: before we talk with Jane. Just following on from Sandy

731
00:42:03,215 --> 00:42:07,455
Speaker 6: with regard to building consents and cc SO a code

732
00:42:07,495 --> 00:42:12,615
Speaker 6: compliance certificate here we go. Hey, Pete, read the CCC

733
00:42:12,775 --> 00:42:15,695
Speaker 6: after a reno's completed. I've just completed ours via the

734
00:42:15,735 --> 00:42:18,215
Speaker 6: Auckland City Council. Took me a day to get my

735
00:42:18,335 --> 00:42:20,815
Speaker 6: info together, one email to the builder and it was

736
00:42:20,855 --> 00:42:23,455
Speaker 6: granted in two weeks time. Our build was a deck

737
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:25,655
Speaker 6: and then ripping out a wall to replace it with

738
00:42:25,735 --> 00:42:28,455
Speaker 6: a large sliding door. So let her know it's not

739
00:42:28,615 --> 00:42:32,655
Speaker 6: a horrible process. Cheers from V. Thanks very much for that. Look,

740
00:42:32,695 --> 00:42:34,695
Speaker 6: I would agree with you. It's just you've just got

741
00:42:34,775 --> 00:42:36,735
Speaker 6: to knuckle down and do it. It's not doing your

742
00:42:36,775 --> 00:42:41,815
Speaker 6: tax returns. Basically, CCC's the same you've got to in

743
00:42:41,935 --> 00:42:44,335
Speaker 6: the building consent. When you get your building consent, it

744
00:42:44,375 --> 00:42:47,255
Speaker 6: will actually list at the back of the consent a

745
00:42:47,335 --> 00:42:49,615
Speaker 6: whole lot of sort of requirements in terms of produce

746
00:42:49,615 --> 00:42:52,215
Speaker 6: a statement from a plumber or waterproofer, depending on what

747
00:42:53,095 --> 00:42:56,415
Speaker 6: type of building you're doing. It'll list those consent those conditions.

748
00:42:56,495 --> 00:43:00,255
Speaker 6: So when you note those and then as you're going through,

749
00:43:00,535 --> 00:43:03,895
Speaker 6: make sure you're getting the documentation that you require. And

750
00:43:04,095 --> 00:43:07,095
Speaker 6: then when you go to apply for this CCC, which

751
00:43:07,135 --> 00:43:11,015
Speaker 6: you do online through a portal, you just need to

752
00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:13,575
Speaker 6: make sure that you supply all of that documentation. My

753
00:43:13,735 --> 00:43:17,335
Speaker 6: only criticism that I have of the system at the

754
00:43:17,415 --> 00:43:19,535
Speaker 6: moment is that in the past, when it was a

755
00:43:19,735 --> 00:43:23,575
Speaker 6: paper system, it gave you a checklist, so at the

756
00:43:23,775 --> 00:43:26,975
Speaker 6: end of your build. Most of the ones that I

757
00:43:27,095 --> 00:43:28,975
Speaker 6: was doing it was new builds. At the end of

758
00:43:29,015 --> 00:43:31,455
Speaker 6: the build you'd have kind of a checklist, so it

759
00:43:31,495 --> 00:43:33,975
Speaker 6: would say you need to produce a statement from the plumber,

760
00:43:34,055 --> 00:43:36,695
Speaker 6: you need a roofing warranty, you need a record of works,

761
00:43:36,735 --> 00:43:38,255
Speaker 6: you need da da da da da, and it listed

762
00:43:38,295 --> 00:43:41,015
Speaker 6: them all. When you do it online, it doesn't give

763
00:43:41,055 --> 00:43:44,335
Speaker 6: you a list. It doesn't give you a checklist. And

764
00:43:44,975 --> 00:43:47,575
Speaker 6: for what it's worth, my approach over the last couple

765
00:43:47,615 --> 00:43:50,575
Speaker 6: of years is I will provide everything that I've got

766
00:43:51,095 --> 00:43:53,855
Speaker 6: because there's no checklist. It doesn't say you've completed it

767
00:43:53,975 --> 00:43:56,775
Speaker 6: or you've ticked every box. So I put in all

768
00:43:56,855 --> 00:44:00,255
Speaker 6: of the documentation that I've got and there still might

769
00:44:00,375 --> 00:44:03,775
Speaker 6: be an RIFI. There still might be, you know, a

770
00:44:03,895 --> 00:44:06,895
Speaker 6: request from council for a specific piece of informant to

771
00:44:07,055 --> 00:44:10,015
Speaker 6: just upload and submit and get it through. But the

772
00:44:10,095 --> 00:44:13,815
Speaker 6: processing times I think are mostly reasonable if you've done

773
00:44:13,975 --> 00:44:16,335
Speaker 6: your part as well in terms of the quality of

774
00:44:16,335 --> 00:44:19,535
Speaker 6: the documentation that you're providing. Right, Oh, just on nine

775
00:44:19,575 --> 00:44:21,895
Speaker 6: months after seven, will take your calls. Oh eight hundred

776
00:44:21,895 --> 00:44:24,175
Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty and Jane, A very.

777
00:44:24,015 --> 00:44:26,495
Speaker 7: Good morning to you, Oh good morning to you.

778
00:44:26,695 --> 00:44:29,335
Speaker 6: And so it's fabulous, my pleasure.

779
00:44:29,895 --> 00:44:31,295
Speaker 4: Help. Now.

780
00:44:31,415 --> 00:44:37,255
Speaker 17: My problem is I'm a bit concerned between two thousand

781
00:44:37,255 --> 00:44:40,535
Speaker 17: and eight and twenty ten my husband and I. My

782
00:44:40,655 --> 00:44:44,295
Speaker 17: husband at that time was developing dementia, but I hadn't

783
00:44:44,455 --> 00:44:49,015
Speaker 17: clicked at that point. We had high pressured leaks in

784
00:44:49,095 --> 00:44:55,535
Speaker 17: the bathrooms and decided between that time to get the

785
00:44:55,615 --> 00:44:59,615
Speaker 17: bathrooms replaced upstairs downstairs, and the kitchen and all the

786
00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:02,775
Speaker 17: plumbing replaced from the black piping to the grave piping.

787
00:45:03,415 --> 00:45:06,095
Speaker 6: Right, So did you have the older ducks quest We

788
00:45:06,135 --> 00:45:06,415
Speaker 6: had the.

789
00:45:06,495 --> 00:45:10,335
Speaker 17: Older black and when it bends, it splits, and that's

790
00:45:10,375 --> 00:45:11,015
Speaker 17: what happened to us.

791
00:45:11,175 --> 00:45:11,335
Speaker 6: Yes.

792
00:45:11,935 --> 00:45:14,655
Speaker 17: Now I have every receipt.

793
00:45:15,695 --> 00:45:16,455
Speaker 8: From that time.

794
00:45:17,615 --> 00:45:21,655
Speaker 17: I can't find any of the C C C or anything.

795
00:45:21,695 --> 00:45:24,055
Speaker 17: And I'm thinking I may one day want to sell.

796
00:45:24,095 --> 00:45:29,895
Speaker 17: My husband has since died from the dementia. If I

797
00:45:30,335 --> 00:45:33,175
Speaker 17: decide to sell this, i'll need a limb report. Now

798
00:45:34,015 --> 00:45:37,335
Speaker 17: I'm thinking of applying for it, just to just out

799
00:45:37,375 --> 00:45:42,335
Speaker 17: of curiosity, to see what has and hasn't been consented.

800
00:45:42,775 --> 00:45:47,495
Speaker 17: How do all I've got are the receipts? What else

801
00:45:47,615 --> 00:45:48,735
Speaker 17: am I supposed to have?

802
00:45:49,735 --> 00:45:53,615
Speaker 6: Okay? My sense is that I don't think you really,

803
00:45:53,695 --> 00:45:55,295
Speaker 6: I don't think you need to worry that the work

804
00:45:55,375 --> 00:46:00,415
Speaker 6: that was done probably well hang on hand, I think so.

805
00:46:00,655 --> 00:46:04,015
Speaker 6: So a couple of things. One is, you know that

806
00:46:04,135 --> 00:46:07,895
Speaker 6: sort of plumbing work, right, it's done by license like.

807
00:46:07,975 --> 00:46:09,215
Speaker 18: For like or not like for like.

808
00:46:09,295 --> 00:46:10,975
Speaker 17: But it's replacing the same.

809
00:46:11,335 --> 00:46:14,135
Speaker 6: Basically the same system, right, so it's water pipes and

810
00:46:14,215 --> 00:46:17,415
Speaker 6: now it's water pipes. So that sort of work can

811
00:46:17,535 --> 00:46:21,415
Speaker 6: be done by hopefully a licensed plumber. They've done the

812
00:46:21,495 --> 00:46:25,535
Speaker 6: work to the building code and it's obviously worked right,

813
00:46:25,615 --> 00:46:29,335
Speaker 6: so you don't have leaks anymore more. So that wouldn't

814
00:46:29,575 --> 00:46:32,055
Speaker 6: I don't believe that would have required a building consent,

815
00:46:32,655 --> 00:46:36,895
Speaker 6: and so then there's no issue. The other thing, though,

816
00:46:37,135 --> 00:46:42,935
Speaker 6: is it would be worth going and requesting a copy

817
00:46:43,015 --> 00:46:46,495
Speaker 6: of the LIMB prior to listing the property, or get

818
00:46:46,575 --> 00:46:47,775
Speaker 6: your agent to do it, if you want to do

819
00:46:47,775 --> 00:46:49,375
Speaker 6: it that way and have a look for it.

820
00:46:49,615 --> 00:46:53,935
Speaker 17: I do, I actually excuse me, so I actually request ALUM.

821
00:46:54,295 --> 00:46:55,415
Speaker 19: So I apply for ALUM.

822
00:46:55,655 --> 00:46:58,055
Speaker 6: You just do it online. You just put in the details,

823
00:46:58,335 --> 00:47:02,015
Speaker 6: your details. I think it costs about seventy dollars or

824
00:47:02,055 --> 00:47:05,655
Speaker 6: something like that, and just request the property file and

825
00:47:05,735 --> 00:47:07,935
Speaker 6: the LIMB should be included in that. Have a look

826
00:47:07,975 --> 00:47:10,895
Speaker 6: through the LIMB, which is a land information memorandum and

827
00:47:11,175 --> 00:47:13,615
Speaker 6: just have a look. A couple of pages in it

828
00:47:13,775 --> 00:47:16,215
Speaker 6: will say it will list all of the building consents.

829
00:47:16,295 --> 00:47:19,015
Speaker 6: It will also list the building permits. So if the

830
00:47:19,175 --> 00:47:22,215
Speaker 6: house was done earlier on, it'll have a building permit.

831
00:47:22,375 --> 00:47:25,015
Speaker 6: They don't have cccs attached to them, so don't worry

832
00:47:25,015 --> 00:47:28,175
Speaker 6: about that. But if it's a building consent, it should

833
00:47:28,215 --> 00:47:30,495
Speaker 6: have a CCC attached to it, so just go back

834
00:47:30,575 --> 00:47:35,015
Speaker 6: and check. And I've said this a couple of times.

835
00:47:35,335 --> 00:47:37,815
Speaker 6: My approach to this has changed a little bit that

836
00:47:37,975 --> 00:47:40,895
Speaker 6: in the past, if a building consent had been issued

837
00:47:40,935 --> 00:47:45,735
Speaker 6: and it didn't have a CCC, sometimes I'd go, oh, well, look,

838
00:47:45,815 --> 00:47:48,455
Speaker 6: we'll just sort that out later on. It can be

839
00:47:49,095 --> 00:47:52,815
Speaker 6: very challenging to sort out getting a CCC for a

840
00:47:52,855 --> 00:47:57,095
Speaker 6: building consent that's dated. So if that was the case,

841
00:47:57,175 --> 00:47:59,255
Speaker 6: if there was work done that had a building consent

842
00:47:59,335 --> 00:48:01,735
Speaker 6: but didn't get a CCC, you'd probably want to get

843
00:48:01,775 --> 00:48:04,255
Speaker 6: some professional advice about what you can do to close

844
00:48:04,335 --> 00:48:09,695
Speaker 6: that out. But I go for that, well, look, chances

845
00:48:09,735 --> 00:48:12,495
Speaker 6: are you know you've got some contacts who are local

846
00:48:12,575 --> 00:48:15,575
Speaker 6: trades people or an experienced, you know, gray haired builder

847
00:48:15,695 --> 00:48:17,255
Speaker 6: who might be able to come around and have a

848
00:48:17,295 --> 00:48:21,535
Speaker 6: look at it. If you need to go for advice.

849
00:48:21,655 --> 00:48:24,255
Speaker 6: Beyond that, then you're probably going to need to engage

850
00:48:24,415 --> 00:48:28,975
Speaker 6: a building server who might be able to come prepare

851
00:48:29,015 --> 00:48:32,855
Speaker 6: the documentation and so on. Counsel have And again I

852
00:48:32,935 --> 00:48:35,575
Speaker 6: don't mean to be overly cautious all that. That's just

853
00:48:35,855 --> 00:48:38,695
Speaker 6: from my own recent experience working for a client where

854
00:48:39,655 --> 00:48:42,335
Speaker 6: we've discovered a building consent that didn't get closed out,

855
00:48:42,415 --> 00:48:44,895
Speaker 6: didn't have a CCC, and I've been involved in the

856
00:48:44,975 --> 00:48:49,735
Speaker 6: process of then getting that closed out. Has been quite

857
00:48:51,415 --> 00:48:53,895
Speaker 6: a lot of time and a reasonable amount of money

858
00:48:53,975 --> 00:48:57,175
Speaker 6: and a lot of professionals involved in proving that the

859
00:48:57,215 --> 00:49:01,255
Speaker 6: building work is compliant with the code. So again, if

860
00:49:01,335 --> 00:49:02,655
Speaker 6: there's but I'm.

861
00:49:02,535 --> 00:49:07,095
Speaker 17: Afraid of yeah, and the oven, the stove, the stove top,

862
00:49:07,175 --> 00:49:10,055
Speaker 17: but the actual oven was moved just beside.

863
00:49:09,695 --> 00:49:13,935
Speaker 6: Where it was, that's fine, doesn't require a consent. So

864
00:49:14,055 --> 00:49:15,935
Speaker 6: the main thing for you, I think is to go

865
00:49:16,095 --> 00:49:18,895
Speaker 6: and request a copy of the limb, have a look

866
00:49:18,935 --> 00:49:22,415
Speaker 6: through that and just see whether there's any building consents

867
00:49:22,495 --> 00:49:25,255
Speaker 6: that don't have a limb attached to them, And then

868
00:49:25,415 --> 00:49:27,855
Speaker 6: that's what I would focus on, And you only have

869
00:49:27,975 --> 00:49:29,975
Speaker 6: to focus on the nature of the work that was

870
00:49:30,055 --> 00:49:36,975
Speaker 6: included in the building consent. It's not the entire building rich, Okay,

871
00:49:37,855 --> 00:49:40,975
Speaker 6: you know possibly, you know, like a reasonably experienced carpenter

872
00:49:41,015 --> 00:49:43,135
Speaker 6: who you might know, friend of a friend sort of thing,

873
00:49:43,415 --> 00:49:45,255
Speaker 6: would be able to help you with that and at

874
00:49:45,335 --> 00:49:47,335
Speaker 6: least be able to read through the documentation and tell

875
00:49:47,375 --> 00:49:48,135
Speaker 6: you what to look for.

876
00:49:49,735 --> 00:49:53,375
Speaker 16: Right, Well, I do, I do have a very good builder.

877
00:49:53,495 --> 00:49:56,575
Speaker 6: Actually, the request the file, print it off, give it

878
00:49:56,655 --> 00:49:58,935
Speaker 6: to them, or forward it to them on an email.

879
00:49:59,255 --> 00:50:00,975
Speaker 6: They'll have a look through and then you can start

880
00:50:01,015 --> 00:50:01,855
Speaker 6: the process from there.

881
00:50:02,735 --> 00:50:04,575
Speaker 17: Okay, thank you, it'll be fine.

882
00:50:04,855 --> 00:50:06,855
Speaker 6: My pleasure. Nice to talk to you all the best

883
00:50:07,215 --> 00:50:12,695
Speaker 6: by by then, one oh LIMB reports cost between two

884
00:50:12,735 --> 00:50:20,575
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty and three hundred bucks. Really, someone just

885
00:50:20,655 --> 00:50:25,775
Speaker 6: texts that through last one that I requested, I think

886
00:50:25,815 --> 00:50:31,215
Speaker 6: it was like seventy six dollars. I might have to

887
00:50:31,295 --> 00:50:33,975
Speaker 6: text real estate agent find out because they're typically the

888
00:50:34,055 --> 00:50:38,735
Speaker 6: ones who are getting them. Wow, I'm happy to take

889
00:50:38,775 --> 00:50:42,455
Speaker 6: texts on that. If you've gone to your local territorial authority,

890
00:50:42,495 --> 00:50:45,215
Speaker 6: your local council and requested a copy of the LIMB

891
00:50:45,255 --> 00:50:50,055
Speaker 6: the land information Memorandum, what did it cost you two

892
00:50:50,135 --> 00:50:51,575
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty to three hundred bucks?

893
00:50:53,535 --> 00:50:53,735
Speaker 4: Cheap.

894
00:50:53,775 --> 00:50:56,855
Speaker 6: It's all about cost recovery, accounting. It is coming up

895
00:50:56,895 --> 00:50:59,135
Speaker 6: sixteen minutes after seven. We'll take short break. We'll be

896
00:50:59,215 --> 00:51:00,255
Speaker 6: back with John in just a moment.

897
00:51:01,815 --> 00:51:05,015
Speaker 1: God was, but maybe call Pete first, feed your wolfcare

898
00:51:05,215 --> 00:51:09,135
Speaker 1: the resident builder News talks, he'd be news talks, he'd.

899
00:51:09,015 --> 00:51:12,615
Speaker 6: Be we're talking all things building and construction. Eight hundred

900
00:51:12,695 --> 00:51:15,855
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number to call. Before the break,

901
00:51:15,935 --> 00:51:22,455
Speaker 6: Dennis was asking about a plantation bamboo that's been recomposed

902
00:51:23,975 --> 00:51:26,375
Speaker 6: into decking boards, which I know is out there and

903
00:51:27,415 --> 00:51:32,135
Speaker 6: I haven't personally had an opportunity to use it. So

904
00:51:32,495 --> 00:51:35,975
Speaker 6: I said, look, if you've used it, hey, let me know. So, Hey, Pete,

905
00:51:35,975 --> 00:51:38,415
Speaker 6: I'm a builder. We've used the bamboo product on a

906
00:51:38,455 --> 00:51:42,535
Speaker 6: couple of projects. It does fade off quickly, which may

907
00:51:42,615 --> 00:51:45,135
Speaker 6: or may not be a bad thing. And because it's

908
00:51:45,295 --> 00:51:47,455
Speaker 6: it all comes and fixed length, you've got to think

909
00:51:47,495 --> 00:51:52,895
Speaker 6: about your joice centers. So that's quite interesting. It's not

910
00:51:53,055 --> 00:51:55,575
Speaker 6: one of the cheapest options. Stone and steel clips which

911
00:51:55,575 --> 00:51:58,535
Speaker 6: are hidden so there's no screws exposed. That's quite nice.

912
00:51:58,575 --> 00:52:01,735
Speaker 6: Thanks from Kerrey. Thank you Kerrey for that comment. Oh

913
00:52:01,775 --> 00:52:04,335
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

914
00:52:04,495 --> 00:52:09,015
Speaker 6: It's starting to get a couple of who Property file

915
00:52:09,095 --> 00:52:12,535
Speaker 6: service standard seventy five dollars Urgent one hundred and fourteen

916
00:52:13,335 --> 00:52:20,775
Speaker 6: are Parmeister North a limb five hundred and twenty one

917
00:52:20,855 --> 00:52:27,135
Speaker 6: dollars for a limb five hundred and twenty one bucks

918
00:52:27,215 --> 00:52:31,135
Speaker 6: and parmist North crikey. Actually a couple of people have

919
00:52:31,215 --> 00:52:35,135
Speaker 6: said that, Um, yeah, Parmison North five hundred and twenty

920
00:52:35,175 --> 00:52:38,495
Speaker 6: one dollars for a limb, requesting the building file held

921
00:52:38,535 --> 00:52:41,855
Speaker 6: at the Palmised North City Council thirty six dollars. So

922
00:52:42,015 --> 00:52:44,855
Speaker 6: someone else? Property file standard seventy five dollars, URGE one

923
00:52:44,935 --> 00:52:49,855
Speaker 6: hundred and fourteen Commercial one hundred and forty six. So

924
00:52:49,975 --> 00:52:54,735
Speaker 6: would the property file include the limb? Maybe not? Anyway,

925
00:52:54,815 --> 00:52:56,935
Speaker 6: we'll continue to get clarity on that. Oh wait, hundred

926
00:52:57,495 --> 00:52:59,615
Speaker 6: we go, Hey, Peter. The limb and the property file

927
00:52:59,655 --> 00:53:02,295
Speaker 6: are two different things, and hence the request property file

928
00:53:02,415 --> 00:53:04,775
Speaker 6: is less than one hundred dollars, depending on if it's

929
00:53:04,815 --> 00:53:07,495
Speaker 6: a standard request or an URGE one. The limb is

930
00:53:07,575 --> 00:53:10,255
Speaker 6: indeed almost three hundred dollars for a standard request. It's

931
00:53:10,295 --> 00:53:13,415
Speaker 6: more expensive since it takes time to assemble. Also, sure

932
00:53:13,455 --> 00:53:16,455
Speaker 6: that the building consent information is in the property file,

933
00:53:16,575 --> 00:53:21,215
Speaker 6: not in the limb. Sean, I'd probably disagree with you

934
00:53:21,335 --> 00:53:24,695
Speaker 6: on that. And all of the ones that I've read recently,

935
00:53:24,735 --> 00:53:27,015
Speaker 6: and it's probably a handful of them, probably five or

936
00:53:27,055 --> 00:53:29,975
Speaker 6: six in the last couple of weeks, when we've requested

937
00:53:30,015 --> 00:53:33,615
Speaker 6: the limb, the building consent information is included, and that's

938
00:53:33,615 --> 00:53:36,655
Speaker 6: a building and resource consents typically are included in the

939
00:53:36,815 --> 00:53:40,495
Speaker 6: limbs that I've read. But thanks for that, John, much appreciated.

940
00:53:40,855 --> 00:53:43,855
Speaker 6: And from John Texter to John Caller, Good.

941
00:53:43,735 --> 00:53:46,895
Speaker 18: Morning, John, Yes, good morning for the lady that she

942
00:53:47,375 --> 00:53:50,775
Speaker 18: did all the plumbing. Yeah, I bor a unit, and

943
00:53:51,335 --> 00:53:54,495
Speaker 18: I knew I bought a what shall we say, very politely,

944
00:53:54,575 --> 00:53:56,495
Speaker 18: how to work on it? But I've got a cheap.

945
00:53:56,295 --> 00:53:59,415
Speaker 6: Soul, best street, worst house.

946
00:53:59,575 --> 00:54:03,895
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, yeah, we never my Yeah, I'm all bated

947
00:54:03,975 --> 00:54:06,095
Speaker 18: it all again after scraped all the rubbish off the

948
00:54:06,335 --> 00:54:08,895
Speaker 18: rest of it, and then I thought, no, no, no, no,

949
00:54:09,015 --> 00:54:10,815
Speaker 18: Look I don't like to look his light switches. So

950
00:54:10,895 --> 00:54:15,055
Speaker 18: I got the reputable firm and I said, look, I

951
00:54:15,135 --> 00:54:18,895
Speaker 18: want all the lights switches, three point plugs left the wiring.

952
00:54:19,095 --> 00:54:21,535
Speaker 18: Do this, do that, do the next thing, And so

953
00:54:21,695 --> 00:54:22,055
Speaker 18: they did it.

954
00:54:22,175 --> 00:54:22,295
Speaker 20: All.

955
00:54:22,535 --> 00:54:26,135
Speaker 18: And then I said to him, what's the swtchboard?

956
00:54:26,255 --> 00:54:26,455
Speaker 9: Like? Is?

957
00:54:26,935 --> 00:54:26,975
Speaker 4: No?

958
00:54:27,135 --> 00:54:29,415
Speaker 18: He says, you really should replace it. So that was due.

959
00:54:29,895 --> 00:54:32,415
Speaker 18: There was an extra, but I didn't mind anyhow. But

960
00:54:32,575 --> 00:54:33,935
Speaker 18: what I said to him, I said, what I want

961
00:54:34,015 --> 00:54:37,495
Speaker 18: you to do for me is I demise what you did,

962
00:54:37,615 --> 00:54:40,975
Speaker 18: so not that the ideomises for me, please, and then

963
00:54:41,015 --> 00:54:43,095
Speaker 18: I'll pay him. He said, well, so that was done.

964
00:54:43,095 --> 00:54:45,575
Speaker 18: I've got the thing. I paid him, and I did

965
00:54:45,615 --> 00:54:48,895
Speaker 18: the same as the plumber, and every bill I had

966
00:54:48,935 --> 00:54:53,135
Speaker 18: with the plumber asking for a seat or he emailed

967
00:54:53,175 --> 00:54:55,255
Speaker 18: me a seat, and I attached it to that bill.

968
00:54:55,815 --> 00:54:59,335
Speaker 18: When it came to tell this place, I found a

969
00:54:59,375 --> 00:55:01,735
Speaker 18: copied a lot and I gave them to the new owner.

970
00:55:01,735 --> 00:55:04,255
Speaker 18: I said, that is what's being done here, the bill

971
00:55:04,415 --> 00:55:07,375
Speaker 18: and everything else, and but just you own a board

972
00:55:07,455 --> 00:55:10,055
Speaker 18: a limon report and he just fell over the cost him.

973
00:55:10,095 --> 00:55:12,015
Speaker 18: I can't remember, see you said it cost about two

974
00:55:12,095 --> 00:55:15,215
Speaker 18: hundred and forty dollars And he said, I've got more

975
00:55:15,295 --> 00:55:16,735
Speaker 18: information on your file than.

976
00:55:19,775 --> 00:55:21,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can imagine.

977
00:55:21,335 --> 00:55:25,295
Speaker 18: But look if he sells it, she's got the proof.

978
00:55:25,415 --> 00:55:29,055
Speaker 18: Dere here. This is what I've done. It's all done professionally.

979
00:55:29,615 --> 00:55:32,255
Speaker 18: And then people are much quicker to make the decision.

980
00:55:32,375 --> 00:55:35,095
Speaker 18: And I would say a lot of people actually, given

981
00:55:35,175 --> 00:55:38,295
Speaker 18: what they have done and you've got your receipt, people say, well,

982
00:55:38,335 --> 00:55:40,255
Speaker 18: here's an honest fellow, he's giving it all. Oh'm I

983
00:55:40,295 --> 00:55:42,175
Speaker 18: got to bother about the bloody two hundred dollars to

984
00:55:42,255 --> 00:55:43,615
Speaker 18: do fifty for their live report.

985
00:55:44,975 --> 00:55:45,175
Speaker 8: Yeah.

986
00:55:45,415 --> 00:55:47,815
Speaker 6: Look, I wouldn't suggest that you don't look at a

987
00:55:47,895 --> 00:55:50,735
Speaker 6: LIMB report because you've got information from a vendor or

988
00:55:50,815 --> 00:55:53,975
Speaker 6: from a homeowner. But I absolutely would encourage you and

989
00:55:54,135 --> 00:55:57,455
Speaker 6: everyone to do exactly what you've done. So if you've

990
00:55:57,535 --> 00:55:59,775
Speaker 6: had building work done, or any sort of work on

991
00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:03,935
Speaker 6: the house, plumbing, electrical, drainage, whatever it is, right, keep

992
00:56:04,215 --> 00:56:07,455
Speaker 6: the receipts. Whether you get text and you upload it

993
00:56:07,535 --> 00:56:10,255
Speaker 6: into a file and you can give someone a little

994
00:56:10,375 --> 00:56:14,255
Speaker 6: USB stick or something like that, whatever you do. But

995
00:56:14,495 --> 00:56:18,375
Speaker 6: if you keep it and it's reasonably well ordered, and

996
00:56:18,495 --> 00:56:21,055
Speaker 6: then when you go to sell, as inevitably most of

997
00:56:21,135 --> 00:56:24,575
Speaker 6: us do, if you've got that available, I think it's

998
00:56:24,695 --> 00:56:28,535
Speaker 6: a huge advantage when you know, at an open home

999
00:56:28,695 --> 00:56:31,975
Speaker 6: or during a discussion, someone can go, oh, actually that's great,

1000
00:56:32,295 --> 00:56:34,935
Speaker 6: here's a receipt for the electrical work, and here's a

1001
00:56:35,015 --> 00:56:37,455
Speaker 6: receipt for that, and maybe he's a warranty and here's

1002
00:56:37,495 --> 00:56:40,135
Speaker 6: some instructions and those sorts of things. So keep all

1003
00:56:40,215 --> 00:56:42,375
Speaker 6: of that in the file. It makes a massive difference

1004
00:56:42,415 --> 00:56:43,655
Speaker 6: when you go to sell the house.

1005
00:56:44,335 --> 00:56:47,095
Speaker 18: Yeah, or sew it to. People have to remember is

1006
00:56:47,775 --> 00:56:50,335
Speaker 18: for goodness sake, when you get an electrician and he

1007
00:56:50,415 --> 00:56:55,055
Speaker 18: does electrical work, insist that you want a certificate of

1008
00:56:55,175 --> 00:56:58,855
Speaker 18: compliance because as you can't prove on you have an

1009
00:56:58,895 --> 00:57:01,495
Speaker 18: electrical fire, you're going to have a lot of fun

1010
00:57:01,575 --> 00:57:02,415
Speaker 18: rest the insurance.

1011
00:57:03,095 --> 00:57:05,135
Speaker 6: In my experience, most of the time that I've had

1012
00:57:05,255 --> 00:57:08,255
Speaker 6: you know, like not not electrical work that's part of

1013
00:57:08,295 --> 00:57:10,215
Speaker 6: a building concent or anything like that. But if I've

1014
00:57:10,255 --> 00:57:12,415
Speaker 6: got the guys in to do you know, add an

1015
00:57:12,455 --> 00:57:15,455
Speaker 6: extra switch or change something around, or make an alteration,

1016
00:57:15,695 --> 00:57:18,655
Speaker 6: all the sort of work that electricians can do and

1017
00:57:18,735 --> 00:57:21,335
Speaker 6: their self certifying, I always make sure I get a CoA,

1018
00:57:21,575 --> 00:57:24,015
Speaker 6: yep CIC sorry sertificate and compliance.

1019
00:57:24,095 --> 00:57:27,615
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, because because I fair love and fell like okay,

1020
00:57:27,735 --> 00:57:32,575
Speaker 18: the insurance company finally agreed after the right, But he

1021
00:57:32,735 --> 00:57:35,375
Speaker 18: learned his lesson after that because he didn't you know,

1022
00:57:35,495 --> 00:57:37,135
Speaker 18: he didn't even know he had to have a cooc

1023
00:57:37,295 --> 00:57:38,375
Speaker 18: the bulls and.

1024
00:57:40,375 --> 00:57:41,095
Speaker 6: A bit of a drama.

1025
00:57:42,055 --> 00:57:44,775
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But I said, I just

1026
00:57:45,015 --> 00:57:47,335
Speaker 18: tell the lady that that could help her also on

1027
00:57:47,455 --> 00:57:47,735
Speaker 18: the way.

1028
00:57:48,255 --> 00:57:50,095
Speaker 6: Excellent, Thank you very much for that and well done.

1029
00:57:50,775 --> 00:57:53,415
Speaker 6: All the best, John, take care. It's all right by

1030
00:57:53,455 --> 00:57:55,175
Speaker 6: by then. I think there's a bit of an accent

1031
00:57:55,295 --> 00:57:58,015
Speaker 6: in there that I might recognize. It is seven to

1032
00:57:58,055 --> 00:58:00,695
Speaker 6: twenty six here at Newstalk CEB. If you've got a

1033
00:58:00,735 --> 00:58:03,295
Speaker 6: building question, now's a great time to call. Eight hundred

1034
00:58:03,295 --> 00:58:05,775
Speaker 6: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. More

1035
00:58:05,815 --> 00:58:10,175
Speaker 6: than happy to get texts on the limbs. Someone's gone

1036
00:58:10,175 --> 00:58:12,415
Speaker 6: to Google. That's kind of cheating. I mean, I appreciate

1037
00:58:12,495 --> 00:58:16,135
Speaker 6: the text in the effort, but I'd like real experience.

1038
00:58:16,175 --> 00:58:21,175
Speaker 6: So standard limb between Auckland Council website three hundred and

1039
00:58:21,215 --> 00:58:24,375
Speaker 6: fifty one dollars. Jeez, I'm a bit out of touch,

1040
00:58:24,415 --> 00:58:27,255
Speaker 6: to be fair, folks. As per Google, standard limb between

1041
00:58:27,255 --> 00:58:30,335
Speaker 6: two hundred and sixty five and three hundred and ninety

1042
00:58:30,695 --> 00:58:33,855
Speaker 6: three dollars, an urgent one between four and fifty and

1043
00:58:33,935 --> 00:58:36,895
Speaker 6: five hundred and ninety That might explain the five hundred

1044
00:58:36,895 --> 00:58:42,175
Speaker 6: and twenty five dollars from Pumpston North District Council properly

1045
00:58:42,215 --> 00:58:47,015
Speaker 6: file in christ Church forty bucks separate to the limb,

1046
00:58:47,135 --> 00:58:49,695
Speaker 6: just contains all the emails and PDFs of consents and

1047
00:58:49,895 --> 00:58:52,775
Speaker 6: so on. So yeah, they are not the same thing.

1048
00:58:53,215 --> 00:58:57,855
Speaker 6: Wellington Council surprise, surprise, five hundred and fifty two dollars

1049
00:58:57,975 --> 00:59:06,215
Speaker 6: and thirty cents for a residential limb. Wow, standard lim

1050
00:59:06,295 --> 00:59:07,695
Speaker 6: three hundred and sixty five. It's quite a bit of

1051
00:59:07,775 --> 00:59:18,695
Speaker 6: variation around the country limbs three hundred, but wow, Cluther

1052
00:59:18,815 --> 00:59:22,495
Speaker 6: District Council three hundred and twenty five, that's not unreasonable.

1053
00:59:22,615 --> 00:59:23,255
Speaker 8: I guess.

1054
00:59:26,935 --> 00:59:28,655
Speaker 6: Well, when they say they have to put it together,

1055
00:59:32,575 --> 00:59:35,335
Speaker 6: I just feel that, Oh anyway, maybe if you've been

1056
00:59:35,415 --> 00:59:38,375
Speaker 6: involved in the putting together of a limb from a

1057
00:59:38,615 --> 00:59:41,615
Speaker 6: council point of view, let me know what's involved in it.

1058
00:59:45,215 --> 00:59:49,855
Speaker 6: It's three five hundred and fifty two dollars and thirty

1059
00:59:49,935 --> 00:59:55,055
Speaker 6: cents in Wellington, not the most expensive that particular honor

1060
00:59:56,215 --> 00:59:59,095
Speaker 6: on Palmerston or five hundred and twenty one, So at

1061
00:59:59,135 --> 01:00:03,775
Speaker 6: this stage no surprises. Perhaps Wellington City Council seemingly are

1062
01:00:03,815 --> 01:00:06,895
Speaker 6: the most expensive for a residential limb. You can beat that.

1063
01:00:08,215 --> 01:00:11,135
Speaker 6: Please let me know we'll have a little leaderboard right now,

1064
01:00:11,295 --> 01:00:14,615
Speaker 6: Wellington most expensive for requesting a five hundred and fifty

1065
01:00:14,655 --> 01:00:18,255
Speaker 6: two dollars and thirty cents. You might not want to

1066
01:00:18,335 --> 01:00:20,335
Speaker 6: beat it, but it'd be interesting to know. Oh eight

1067
01:00:20,455 --> 01:00:22,335
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call. Hey,

1068
01:00:22,455 --> 01:00:26,935
Speaker 6: good a Chris, Yeah, good morning, very well yourself.

1069
01:00:28,255 --> 01:00:31,615
Speaker 13: Yeah not there not being beautiful morning down Tarnaby, It's.

1070
01:00:35,255 --> 01:00:36,015
Speaker 8: Go what's up?

1071
01:00:37,335 --> 01:00:37,655
Speaker 14: Okay?

1072
01:00:38,175 --> 01:00:40,535
Speaker 20: I talked to you a while back about we were

1073
01:00:40,535 --> 01:00:42,135
Speaker 20: looking at buying a property and I have a few

1074
01:00:42,215 --> 01:00:45,535
Speaker 20: questions about where to go through all that with me

1075
01:00:45,655 --> 01:00:47,055
Speaker 20: and at the jump, and I've brought.

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01:00:46,975 --> 01:00:50,575
Speaker 13: A hectare of beer land and we are now looking

1077
01:00:50,695 --> 01:00:54,495
Speaker 13: at building a essentially a.

1078
01:00:55,535 --> 01:00:56,935
Speaker 14: Three bay implement shed.

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01:00:57,015 --> 01:01:00,535
Speaker 20: But I want to know what is the difference for

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01:01:00,655 --> 01:01:03,375
Speaker 20: putting poles in the ground between an important level one

1081
01:01:03,455 --> 01:01:07,775
Speaker 20: and an important level two building, because eventually would probably

1082
01:01:07,855 --> 01:01:10,815
Speaker 20: look at cleaning all the building and insulating is making it.

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01:01:13,095 --> 01:01:14,415
Speaker 14: So I just want to make sure we get the

1084
01:01:14,415 --> 01:01:15,655
Speaker 14: brown work right to start with.

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01:01:18,455 --> 01:01:20,775
Speaker 6: Look, to be absolutely honest, it's not a distinction that

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01:01:20,855 --> 01:01:25,655
Speaker 6: I've heard between level one and level two. Surely when

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01:01:26,375 --> 01:01:33,895
Speaker 6: where did you find that reference? Like, what's oh, he

1088
01:01:34,095 --> 01:01:41,295
Speaker 6: we might have actually lost them. We've lost them. Okay,

1089
01:01:41,855 --> 01:01:44,295
Speaker 6: we might try that again. Eight hundred and eighty ten

1090
01:01:44,415 --> 01:01:47,655
Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call Pete. I'm an architectural

1091
01:01:47,695 --> 01:01:51,015
Speaker 6: designer in Auckland. I suggest people order the full property

1092
01:01:51,055 --> 01:01:53,135
Speaker 6: file as well as the limb. The property file gives

1093
01:01:53,215 --> 01:01:55,335
Speaker 6: them some of the construction info. Yeah, it is handy.

1094
01:01:56,615 --> 01:01:59,095
Speaker 6: I did one a couple of years ago for a property,

1095
01:01:59,175 --> 01:02:01,735
Speaker 6: and I submitted it and I paid my money, and

1096
01:02:01,815 --> 01:02:04,855
Speaker 6: about three days later I got a phone call from Council,

1097
01:02:04,935 --> 01:02:07,415
Speaker 6: from someone working at council and they went, look, did

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01:02:07,455 --> 01:02:10,415
Speaker 6: you request them for this particular property or yes, a

1099
01:02:10,535 --> 01:02:13,295
Speaker 6: property file for this particular property on a CDEO I did.

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01:02:13,735 --> 01:02:16,495
Speaker 6: He said, look, we've had a look and basically we've

1101
01:02:16,495 --> 01:02:21,655
Speaker 6: got nothing like nothing of value on that particular property.

1102
01:02:21,735 --> 01:02:24,495
Speaker 6: So just give us your bank account number and we'll

1103
01:02:24,535 --> 01:02:27,455
Speaker 6: give you the money back, which I thought was pretty decent. Oh,

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01:02:27,535 --> 01:02:29,455
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number of call just

1105
01:02:29,495 --> 01:02:31,215
Speaker 6: gone seven to thirty. We'll take a short break, we'll

1106
01:02:31,215 --> 01:02:32,495
Speaker 6: talk to Catherine in just a moment.

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01:02:33,175 --> 01:02:35,695
Speaker 1: Doing other house extorting the guard and asked Pete for

1108
01:02:35,775 --> 01:02:39,175
Speaker 1: a hand The resident builder with Peter wolfcap call oh

1109
01:02:39,215 --> 01:02:41,375
Speaker 1: eight hundred eight news dogs.

1110
01:02:42,495 --> 01:02:44,455
Speaker 6: Funnily enough, in the break, I did a quick Google

1111
01:02:44,495 --> 01:02:48,135
Speaker 6: search on level one pole structures, level one, level two.

1112
01:02:49,015 --> 01:02:53,455
Speaker 6: The first hit was about technical complexity of people undertaking

1113
01:02:53,575 --> 01:02:59,095
Speaker 6: pole dancing and structures related to anyway. I learned a

1114
01:02:59,135 --> 01:03:00,575
Speaker 6: whole lot of stuff that I feel I don't need

1115
01:03:00,655 --> 01:03:04,215
Speaker 6: to know. But more importantly, pole sheds and hay barns

1116
01:03:04,295 --> 01:03:07,455
Speaker 6: can be in closed, semi enclosed, or open stret And

1117
01:03:07,615 --> 01:03:12,255
Speaker 6: then the level is level one, level two is around

1118
01:03:12,335 --> 01:03:15,655
Speaker 6: the wind zone. So if it's hopefully this is the

1119
01:03:15,735 --> 01:03:19,335
Speaker 6: answer to your question, Chris, Level one, level two relates

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01:03:19,415 --> 01:03:22,375
Speaker 6: to wind. So obviously, if you're going to put up

1121
01:03:22,415 --> 01:03:24,895
Speaker 6: some poles and put a dumping great roof on the

1122
01:03:24,935 --> 01:03:27,175
Speaker 6: top of it, if you're in a high wind zone,

1123
01:03:27,535 --> 01:03:29,535
Speaker 6: you're going to have to do more work to hold

1124
01:03:29,575 --> 01:03:32,095
Speaker 6: it down, hold it in place than if you're in

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01:03:32,135 --> 01:03:34,295
Speaker 6: a low wind zone. So that's what level one, level

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01:03:34,335 --> 01:03:37,455
Speaker 6: two seems to be about. Makes sense.

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01:03:37,815 --> 01:03:41,495
Speaker 14: Okay, So it's another to do with water and grease

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01:03:41,575 --> 01:03:42,055
Speaker 14: upper pole.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I don't believe so. From what I've seen,

1130
01:03:45,255 --> 01:03:47,495
Speaker 6: and it's just a brief look, it's all around wind

1131
01:03:47,695 --> 01:03:51,455
Speaker 6: and around ensuring that the roof stays on. If just

1132
01:03:51,575 --> 01:03:54,615
Speaker 6: a thinking ahead, if your intention is potentially, you know,

1133
01:03:54,735 --> 01:04:00,135
Speaker 6: in years to come, to look at enclosing the structure

1134
01:04:00,215 --> 01:04:03,935
Speaker 6: and making it a habitable space, I would suggest that

1135
01:04:04,095 --> 01:04:07,575
Speaker 6: you think about that now in terms of what you're building.

1136
01:04:07,695 --> 01:04:12,255
Speaker 6: So like wicking in a timber post into a structure,

1137
01:04:12,815 --> 01:04:15,655
Speaker 6: because the challenge sometimes with these and you want to

1138
01:04:15,695 --> 01:04:18,655
Speaker 6: go off and talk to the pole manufacturers or talk

1139
01:04:18,735 --> 01:04:21,215
Speaker 6: to the people are supplying the shed, is to say,

1140
01:04:21,775 --> 01:04:23,575
Speaker 6: if I put a post in the ground or a

1141
01:04:23,655 --> 01:04:26,855
Speaker 6: pole in the ground, and that pole ends up being

1142
01:04:27,015 --> 01:04:31,175
Speaker 6: inside my building, how do I ensure how do I

1143
01:04:31,655 --> 01:04:34,695
Speaker 6: answer a question around what happens to any moisture that

1144
01:04:34,855 --> 01:04:38,415
Speaker 6: might wick up the pole and come into my habitable

1145
01:04:38,495 --> 01:04:42,375
Speaker 6: space because my pole is inside the building structure. Now,

1146
01:04:42,415 --> 01:04:46,055
Speaker 6: it might be as simple as coating the posts or

1147
01:04:46,135 --> 01:04:48,415
Speaker 6: the poles before you put them in the ground with

1148
01:04:48,535 --> 01:04:53,055
Speaker 6: a waterproof compound or a special type of paint or

1149
01:04:53,095 --> 01:04:56,055
Speaker 6: a coating. Right that means that you don't get that

1150
01:04:56,175 --> 01:04:58,855
Speaker 6: wicking in which case that would be something extra that

1151
01:04:58,975 --> 01:05:01,095
Speaker 6: you would need to do when you're building, but it

1152
01:05:01,175 --> 01:05:04,015
Speaker 6: will help you later on. If you say I'm going

1153
01:05:04,095 --> 01:05:07,335
Speaker 6: to submit a building consent to convert my pole structure

1154
01:05:07,415 --> 01:05:10,055
Speaker 6: into a habitable space. And by the way, here's some

1155
01:05:10,175 --> 01:05:14,015
Speaker 6: evidence to prove that wicking through the timber into the

1156
01:05:14,055 --> 01:05:17,215
Speaker 6: building structure. I've addressed that by doing this, and here's

1157
01:05:17,215 --> 01:05:17,975
Speaker 6: the evidence for it.

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01:05:18,295 --> 01:05:21,655
Speaker 21: Yes, yep, yeah, I sort of figured something like a

1159
01:05:21,735 --> 01:05:24,575
Speaker 21: late eggs paint or something. Ye're putting the actual pole yep.

1160
01:05:24,895 --> 01:05:27,735
Speaker 21: One hundred above ground level something like that.

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01:05:27,935 --> 01:05:30,735
Speaker 6: Just so that later on when you submit a building consent,

1162
01:05:31,015 --> 01:05:33,415
Speaker 6: you know, because effectively it's going to be an alteration

1163
01:05:33,535 --> 01:05:37,335
Speaker 6: because you've already got a building there. And then at

1164
01:05:37,415 --> 01:05:40,295
Speaker 6: this stage your pole structure is not going to have

1165
01:05:40,375 --> 01:05:41,535
Speaker 6: any cladding on the outside.

1166
01:05:43,815 --> 01:05:46,415
Speaker 21: On one third will be enclosed, so it's basically a

1167
01:05:46,535 --> 01:05:47,775
Speaker 21: three three bay shed.

1168
01:05:48,415 --> 01:05:48,615
Speaker 6: Yep.

1169
01:05:49,175 --> 01:05:52,135
Speaker 14: Two bays will be open and one will be fully enclosed.

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01:05:52,455 --> 01:05:55,855
Speaker 6: Okay, So again, if you're thinking that later on it

1171
01:05:55,935 --> 01:05:58,215
Speaker 6: might be habitable, then the way in which you do

1172
01:05:58,335 --> 01:06:01,215
Speaker 6: the cladding on that third space you would try and

1173
01:06:01,335 --> 01:06:04,095
Speaker 6: do that in accordance with the building code. So typically

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01:06:04,615 --> 01:06:07,775
Speaker 6: with open spaces we don't put a building wrap or

1175
01:06:08,255 --> 01:06:12,335
Speaker 6: so on behind the metal, but in this instance you

1176
01:06:12,415 --> 01:06:14,615
Speaker 6: might actually want to do maybe even something like a

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01:06:14,735 --> 01:06:17,815
Speaker 6: rigid air barrier and then a cavity, and then you're

1178
01:06:17,895 --> 01:06:20,735
Speaker 6: cladding on the outside, or at the very least, you'd

1179
01:06:20,775 --> 01:06:23,295
Speaker 6: want to do building paper with a cavity and so on,

1180
01:06:23,495 --> 01:06:26,695
Speaker 6: and then so to prove compliance with a building code,

1181
01:06:26,695 --> 01:06:28,055
Speaker 6: because what you don't want to do is in a

1182
01:06:28,095 --> 01:06:30,495
Speaker 6: couple of years time find that you have to peel

1183
01:06:30,535 --> 01:06:32,815
Speaker 6: off all of your existing cladding in order to add

1184
01:06:33,175 --> 01:06:36,255
Speaker 6: that vapor barrier to the outside, which is required. You

1185
01:06:36,335 --> 01:06:38,255
Speaker 6: could do it now and save yourself. You know, it's

1186
01:06:38,335 --> 01:06:40,295
Speaker 6: it's an investment now, but it'll save you in the

1187
01:06:40,335 --> 01:06:40,695
Speaker 6: long run.

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01:06:42,095 --> 01:06:46,975
Speaker 21: Yes, yes, yes, yes, sort of the enclosed part. I

1189
01:06:47,055 --> 01:06:51,295
Speaker 21: would probably build to an important level two standard just

1190
01:06:51,375 --> 01:06:53,255
Speaker 21: for that reason and then take lots of photos.

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01:06:53,495 --> 01:06:56,295
Speaker 14: Yep. And like you say before, people are receipts on file.

1192
01:06:56,895 --> 01:06:59,815
Speaker 6: Yeah. Absolutely, But even if it's not like level one,

1193
01:06:59,935 --> 01:07:02,895
Speaker 6: level two is it is related to the Building Act,

1194
01:07:02,935 --> 01:07:05,135
Speaker 6: but not necessarily to the Building Code. So I'd get

1195
01:07:05,175 --> 01:07:07,175
Speaker 6: some specific advice around what do I need to do

1196
01:07:07,255 --> 01:07:09,655
Speaker 6: in order to plaid this building in accordance with the

1197
01:07:09,695 --> 01:07:14,495
Speaker 6: building code. So in terms of coverage, fixings, span between

1198
01:07:14,575 --> 01:07:17,575
Speaker 6: the fixings, vapor barrier on the outside, those sorts of things.

1199
01:07:17,935 --> 01:07:19,695
Speaker 6: Make sure that that's to the building code.

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01:07:21,095 --> 01:07:23,895
Speaker 21: Would would that be a conversation with a district council

1201
01:07:24,175 --> 01:07:25,375
Speaker 21: or with a builder.

1202
01:07:26,015 --> 01:07:30,575
Speaker 6: Well, ideally with a designer and in some ways with

1203
01:07:30,775 --> 01:07:34,695
Speaker 6: the designer who might submit your building consent in the future. Right, So,

1204
01:07:34,775 --> 01:07:36,815
Speaker 6: if you've got someone in mind, talk to them now

1205
01:07:37,415 --> 01:07:39,375
Speaker 6: and then they're familiar with it as well. I'm just

1206
01:07:39,415 --> 01:07:43,935
Speaker 6: thinking that would be helpful. Yes, much appreciate, good luck,

1207
01:07:44,055 --> 01:07:47,655
Speaker 6: all the best. I'm awesome you then take care, Chris Bob,

1208
01:07:47,655 --> 01:07:49,615
Speaker 6: I think oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If

1209
01:07:49,615 --> 01:07:52,775
Speaker 6: you've got some building questions, let me just go back

1210
01:07:52,775 --> 01:08:00,935
Speaker 6: to my list. Sef, I've got some more costings for limbs. Right, Oh,

1211
01:08:01,135 --> 01:08:04,375
Speaker 6: this is a good detailed one stand by folks. High Pete.

1212
01:08:04,415 --> 01:08:08,455
Speaker 6: Limbs are a legislative doc and the content is very prescriptive.

1213
01:08:08,535 --> 01:08:11,575
Speaker 6: I work at council, but in it the LIMB team

1214
01:08:11,695 --> 01:08:14,295
Speaker 6: sit right next to me. When they receive a LIMB request,

1215
01:08:14,735 --> 01:08:18,335
Speaker 6: they send requests to all departments for their specific information

1216
01:08:18,455 --> 01:08:22,575
Speaker 6: on a property. This includes rivers, assets, services, compliance roading.

1217
01:08:23,455 --> 01:08:27,255
Speaker 6: A LIMB then includes things like floodplain information, zoning information,

1218
01:08:27,815 --> 01:08:31,815
Speaker 6: any geotechnical information. It's not just the building consens legal

1219
01:08:31,935 --> 01:08:34,495
Speaker 6: time frame is ten working days, but they are usually

1220
01:08:34,615 --> 01:08:38,095
Speaker 6: completed well within this timeframe. They then compile all of

1221
01:08:38,175 --> 01:08:40,815
Speaker 6: the information into a limb. If you just want to

1222
01:08:40,855 --> 01:08:45,815
Speaker 6: check out the property file, some council's charge, but it's less.

1223
01:08:45,895 --> 01:08:46,375
Speaker 7: I agree.

1224
01:08:47,175 --> 01:08:49,855
Speaker 6: I work at the Marlborough District Council and you you

1225
01:08:50,255 --> 01:08:53,695
Speaker 6: your property files for free in the Marlborough District Council.

1226
01:08:53,855 --> 01:08:57,015
Speaker 6: Thank you very much for that. That's super information. That's

1227
01:08:57,055 --> 01:09:00,455
Speaker 6: great much pressure. So that's an insight into how limbs

1228
01:09:00,535 --> 01:09:03,495
Speaker 6: are compiled. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1229
01:09:03,695 --> 01:09:08,535
Speaker 6: is that number? Call hello Catherine, Hello, good morning morning.

1230
01:09:09,615 --> 01:09:13,135
Speaker 16: And now my problem is I think it's a problem.

1231
01:09:13,895 --> 01:09:18,015
Speaker 16: All my ceilings are cracking right from one side to

1232
01:09:18,095 --> 01:09:22,255
Speaker 16: the other where the join is, and also downstairs it's

1233
01:09:22,335 --> 01:09:26,855
Speaker 16: got fine cracks, and thee and the lounge and also

1234
01:09:27,015 --> 01:09:29,535
Speaker 16: some of the doors are sticking, and the towers and

1235
01:09:29,575 --> 01:09:33,495
Speaker 16: the bathroom are cracking right and I'm not quite sure

1236
01:09:33,575 --> 01:09:34,415
Speaker 16: who I should get in.

1237
01:09:34,495 --> 01:09:35,655
Speaker 6: Touch with sure.

1238
01:09:36,175 --> 01:09:40,495
Speaker 16: Also, also we've got a shared drive next door. I'm

1239
01:09:40,535 --> 01:09:44,055
Speaker 16: in a townhouse. Yes, share driving next door, which was

1240
01:09:44,095 --> 01:09:47,815
Speaker 16: in this one part when I moved in here to

1241
01:09:48,135 --> 01:09:51,175
Speaker 16: eleven years ago, but the middle part of it has

1242
01:09:51,255 --> 01:09:54,735
Speaker 16: dropped down about probably four inches, and I just wondered

1243
01:09:54,815 --> 01:09:56,255
Speaker 16: if that's a telltale sign.

1244
01:09:58,095 --> 01:09:58,615
Speaker 18: How old?

1245
01:09:58,855 --> 01:10:00,135
Speaker 6: Roughly is the building.

1246
01:09:59,895 --> 01:10:04,415
Speaker 16: Itself about twenty five I think twenty five.

1247
01:10:04,335 --> 01:10:06,175
Speaker 6: Years so I built around two thousand.

1248
01:10:07,655 --> 01:10:08,055
Speaker 8: Probably.

1249
01:10:10,935 --> 01:10:13,575
Speaker 6: Is it on a timber floor or is it on

1250
01:10:13,655 --> 01:10:14,495
Speaker 6: a concrete floor?

1251
01:10:15,535 --> 01:10:17,135
Speaker 19: Concrete floor?

1252
01:10:18,215 --> 01:10:22,055
Speaker 6: And is it adjoining other properties or is it solo?

1253
01:10:23,455 --> 01:10:26,415
Speaker 16: No, I'm joined its own host. I'm joineddu't as somebody

1254
01:10:26,495 --> 01:10:27,815
Speaker 16: next door just.

1255
01:10:27,895 --> 01:10:32,895
Speaker 6: On one side. Do you know whether they have experienced

1256
01:10:33,015 --> 01:10:35,055
Speaker 6: or can see similar movement?

1257
01:10:36,535 --> 01:10:37,775
Speaker 16: No, I haven't sport to them.

1258
01:10:40,655 --> 01:10:44,135
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's it's worthy of further investigation

1259
01:10:44,695 --> 01:10:48,055
Speaker 6: in the sense that maybe in the first instance, again,

1260
01:10:48,215 --> 01:10:51,255
Speaker 6: you know, an experienced builder could come and kind of

1261
01:10:51,335 --> 01:10:54,775
Speaker 6: get a sense of whether like buildings will settle right

1262
01:10:54,855 --> 01:10:58,255
Speaker 6: and buildings will move and we kind of have a

1263
01:10:58,415 --> 01:11:01,295
Speaker 6: tolerance for a certain amount of movement, in which case,

1264
01:11:01,695 --> 01:11:05,135
Speaker 6: a door that sticks from time to time, that might

1265
01:11:05,215 --> 01:11:07,695
Speaker 6: be due to just moisture, It might be just due

1266
01:11:07,695 --> 01:11:10,575
Speaker 6: to the changes between summer and winter. It might be

1267
01:11:10,775 --> 01:11:17,095
Speaker 6: indicative of some more significant subsidence or structural failure in

1268
01:11:17,175 --> 01:11:19,935
Speaker 6: a sense of the building. But you'll soon you know,

1269
01:11:20,095 --> 01:11:22,695
Speaker 6: again from experience, you'll soon get a sense of is

1270
01:11:23,055 --> 01:11:25,455
Speaker 6: this something significant. The other thing is that, let's say

1271
01:11:26,255 --> 01:11:29,135
Speaker 6: the last time the building was stopped and painted was

1272
01:11:29,215 --> 01:11:32,815
Speaker 6: maybe fifteen or twenty years ago, then it's not unexpected

1273
01:11:32,895 --> 01:11:35,855
Speaker 6: to see cracks and so on. You'll see a little

1274
01:11:35,855 --> 01:11:38,535
Speaker 6: bit of movement around the doorframe, you might see a

1275
01:11:38,655 --> 01:11:41,575
Speaker 6: joint that opens up on the ceiling, these sorts of things.

1276
01:11:42,295 --> 01:11:44,535
Speaker 6: You know, if you said to me it's a three

1277
01:11:44,615 --> 01:11:47,775
Speaker 6: year old townhouse, then I'd go, actually, that's worthy of

1278
01:11:48,215 --> 01:11:52,135
Speaker 6: really significant investigation. But twenty five year old house, there

1279
01:11:52,175 --> 01:11:54,775
Speaker 6: may have been a certain amount of movement. What you

1280
01:11:54,815 --> 01:11:58,295
Speaker 6: would be most concerned about is is this movement indicative

1281
01:11:58,495 --> 01:12:02,695
Speaker 6: of a serious issue with subsidence or movement in the slab,

1282
01:12:03,255 --> 01:12:05,095
Speaker 6: or is this one of those things that over a

1283
01:12:05,175 --> 01:12:07,455
Speaker 6: period of time you'll get and if we fixed it,

1284
01:12:07,855 --> 01:12:10,975
Speaker 6: it won't come back again. So my suggestion would be

1285
01:12:11,215 --> 01:12:14,855
Speaker 6: to reach out to an experienced builder who either you

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01:12:14,975 --> 01:12:18,095
Speaker 6: know or is recommended to you. They'll come through give

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01:12:18,175 --> 01:12:20,895
Speaker 6: you a general sense of is there something to be

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01:12:21,015 --> 01:12:24,655
Speaker 6: concerned about? If there is something really serious with the building,

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01:12:24,775 --> 01:12:28,015
Speaker 6: then you'd probably want to get professional advice. From a

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01:12:28,015 --> 01:12:33,135
Speaker 6: structural engineer who could come and determine, maybe take some levels,

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01:12:33,175 --> 01:12:35,975
Speaker 6: that sort of thing. But if not, then it might

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01:12:36,135 --> 01:12:39,935
Speaker 6: just be the building needs some work. Doors need to

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01:12:39,975 --> 01:12:42,255
Speaker 6: be easy, the ceiling can be stopped, that sort of thing.

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01:12:42,335 --> 01:12:45,775
Speaker 6: But you really need to be there in person looking

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01:12:45,855 --> 01:12:48,615
Speaker 6: at it to get a sense of what's going on. Yeah,

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01:12:48,975 --> 01:12:53,455
Speaker 6: but if I was in your shoes, I wouldn't jump

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01:12:53,495 --> 01:12:55,735
Speaker 6: to the conclusion that, hey, I've got a significant issue

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01:12:55,775 --> 01:12:59,415
Speaker 6: with that. It would be worth pointing out to whoever

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01:12:59,535 --> 01:13:02,535
Speaker 6: comes that, Hey, look, there's been some significant movement to

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01:13:02,695 --> 01:13:05,175
Speaker 6: the driveway outside or those sorts of things, because that

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01:13:05,255 --> 01:13:08,215
Speaker 6: would you know, for driveways move that much, it probably

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01:13:08,295 --> 01:13:11,055
Speaker 6: indicates that it wasn't particularly well prepped in the first place,

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01:13:11,895 --> 01:13:14,255
Speaker 6: in which case, if that wasn't well prepped, then maybe

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01:13:14,375 --> 01:13:16,615
Speaker 6: some of the slab wasn't as well prepped and there

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01:13:16,695 --> 01:13:19,215
Speaker 6: might be some move on the outside of the building.

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01:13:20,175 --> 01:13:22,695
Speaker 6: What's the cladding's what's the outside lining?

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Speaker 16: Well, it looks like wood, but it's not like a

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01:13:27,535 --> 01:13:28,495
Speaker 16: plastic stuff.

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01:13:28,695 --> 01:13:32,015
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, And in that like, do you ever notice

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01:13:32,055 --> 01:13:35,095
Speaker 6: that any of your windows or the door, the front

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01:13:35,135 --> 01:13:38,095
Speaker 6: door and that sort of thing get difficult to open

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01:13:38,215 --> 01:13:38,935
Speaker 6: or close.

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01:13:40,215 --> 01:13:40,895
Speaker 16: The front door.

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01:13:41,495 --> 01:13:44,135
Speaker 6: Front door does okay, So it's that sort of thing.

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01:13:44,175 --> 01:13:46,135
Speaker 6: It's like, you know, it's a whole series of twells

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01:13:46,175 --> 01:13:49,735
Speaker 6: in a poker game, you're asking someone to identify and go, okay,

1317
01:13:49,815 --> 01:13:51,775
Speaker 6: that gets a bit sticky. Does it only get sticky

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01:13:51,815 --> 01:13:54,295
Speaker 6: in winter and in summer it's okay, in which case

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01:13:54,455 --> 01:13:55,535
Speaker 6: you can adjust the door.

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Speaker 10: For that.

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01:13:58,855 --> 01:14:03,255
Speaker 16: Downstairs door wardrobe door has been sticking for years? Someone

1322
01:14:03,295 --> 01:14:03,895
Speaker 16: around winter?

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01:14:04,215 --> 01:14:07,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I no, I just regional.

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01:14:07,015 --> 01:14:08,815
Speaker 16: Rang which I just slooked up and I noticed this.

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01:14:09,215 --> 01:14:10,855
Speaker 16: The scusshous cracked straight through.

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01:14:12,095 --> 01:14:17,175
Speaker 6: It was the last week, right, okay, And look partly,

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01:14:17,535 --> 01:14:19,135
Speaker 6: you know, depending on where you are in the country,

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01:14:19,175 --> 01:14:22,415
Speaker 6: we've had a particularly long, hot, dry summer and now

1329
01:14:22,455 --> 01:14:24,935
Speaker 6: we've had a lot of rainfall. Buildings tend to move

1330
01:14:25,175 --> 01:14:26,055
Speaker 6: in those conditions.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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01:14:26,815 --> 01:14:29,175
Speaker 6: It's it's a it's a sort of a scale, isn't

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01:14:29,215 --> 01:14:31,335
Speaker 6: it where you're going? You know, is this a significant

1334
01:14:31,375 --> 01:14:35,655
Speaker 6: problem or a relatively minor problem. My sense is that

1335
01:14:35,815 --> 01:14:39,895
Speaker 6: it feels like it's relatively minor. But again, someone to

1336
01:14:40,015 --> 01:14:42,295
Speaker 6: have eyes on and have a look at it would

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01:14:42,335 --> 01:14:43,095
Speaker 6: be really worthwhile.

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Speaker 16: Okay, I'll do that. Okay, thank you all.

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01:14:46,775 --> 01:14:49,615
Speaker 6: The very best. You, take care you and News talks'd B.

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01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:51,735
Speaker 6: We can take a break. It is seven forty five,

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01:14:51,855 --> 01:14:53,855
Speaker 6: let's call it seven forty six actually, then we'll come

1342
01:14:53,895 --> 01:14:54,735
Speaker 6: back and talk to Steve.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing with fence, or wondering

1344
01:14:57,975 --> 01:15:00,095
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Feeder

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Speaker 1: Wolf caabcle on eighty the resident builder on Youth TALKS'B.

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Speaker 6: Today we're looking into tryboard as a lining option. So

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01:15:10,855 --> 01:15:13,095
Speaker 6: it comes in two point four or three point six

1348
01:15:13,255 --> 01:15:16,895
Speaker 6: meter sheets. It's ten mil. It's got two MDF outer

1349
01:15:17,055 --> 01:15:21,175
Speaker 6: layers in a strand board inner layer, light durable, can

1350
01:15:21,255 --> 01:15:23,935
Speaker 6: handle the NOx. It's pretty tough, so it's perfect for

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01:15:24,015 --> 01:15:26,895
Speaker 6: renovations and for new builds. Joining us this morning is

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01:15:26,895 --> 01:15:29,975
Speaker 6: Brendan Morony from Store in z Now. You specialize in kitchens,

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01:15:30,055 --> 01:15:33,455
Speaker 6: cabins and custom builds based up in Northland. You've been

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01:15:33,575 --> 01:15:35,775
Speaker 6: using it for a couple of years. How did you

1355
01:15:36,015 --> 01:15:37,295
Speaker 6: get interested in tryboard?

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01:15:38,735 --> 01:15:42,775
Speaker 19: I started using trybards just after the COVID lockdowns, and

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01:15:43,015 --> 01:15:47,135
Speaker 19: the reason I started using it is because plywoods became

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01:15:47,335 --> 01:15:52,495
Speaker 19: quite inconsistent, just availability and also the varying price and

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01:15:52,815 --> 01:15:53,655
Speaker 19: the quality as well.

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01:15:53,695 --> 01:15:55,295
Speaker 16: The quality really.

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01:15:55,215 --> 01:15:57,455
Speaker 19: Plumed a little bit, I think just due to availability.

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01:15:57,615 --> 01:16:01,335
Speaker 6: Sure. So in terms of the installation process, this is

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01:16:01,495 --> 01:16:05,975
Speaker 6: your lining over conventional timber framing, speed complexity, walk us

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01:16:06,015 --> 01:16:06,215
Speaker 6: through it.

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Speaker 19: So, yeah, it's pretty it's pretty simple. We just we

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01:16:10,455 --> 01:16:15,655
Speaker 19: do our framing and insulation and cabling, and then the

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01:16:15,735 --> 01:16:18,255
Speaker 19: triboarder is glued to our timber framing and then pins

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01:16:18,295 --> 01:16:21,135
Speaker 19: and then also screwed, just just to compress the glue

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01:16:21,135 --> 01:16:23,895
Speaker 19: and give it a good fixing. It's not used as

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01:16:23,935 --> 01:16:26,775
Speaker 19: a bracing element, but it definitely does add a bracing

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01:16:26,815 --> 01:16:27,855
Speaker 19: element to the structure.

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Speaker 6: In terms of selection of links, what do you typically use?

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Speaker 19: I use both the two point four and the three

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01:16:37,335 --> 01:16:41,295
Speaker 19: point six one. I find the two point four mainly

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01:16:41,335 --> 01:16:43,815
Speaker 19: for the wall linings, and then also if I build

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01:16:43,855 --> 01:16:46,695
Speaker 19: a higher unit, I can cut down the three point six,

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01:16:47,415 --> 01:16:49,695
Speaker 19: But then the three point six is ideal for going

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01:16:49,735 --> 01:16:53,015
Speaker 19: across the ceiling long ways. Just just less less boards,

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01:16:53,255 --> 01:16:56,215
Speaker 19: less work. Yeah, so you're using it a nicer finish.

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Speaker 6: Walls and ceilings.

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01:16:58,055 --> 01:16:58,815
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's correct.

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01:17:00,135 --> 01:17:03,975
Speaker 6: In terms of coating it, what would your top tips

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01:17:04,055 --> 01:17:04,855
Speaker 6: for coating it be.

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01:17:06,175 --> 01:17:08,415
Speaker 19: I don't really have many top tips for courting as

1385
01:17:09,135 --> 01:17:09,855
Speaker 19: to come in and do it.

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01:17:10,055 --> 01:17:10,255
Speaker 18: Yell.

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01:17:10,575 --> 01:17:13,255
Speaker 19: As far as the courting goes, it's it's a lot

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01:17:13,375 --> 01:17:16,655
Speaker 19: nicer than than a flywood finish. It's there's no inconsistencies

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01:17:16,935 --> 01:17:19,975
Speaker 19: or not. So it definitely comes up really nice once

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01:17:20,015 --> 01:17:22,655
Speaker 19: it's finished, and we put a little chamfur on the joint, yes,

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01:17:23,055 --> 01:17:25,615
Speaker 19: and line them up with the ceiling, and yeah, it

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01:17:25,615 --> 01:17:26,175
Speaker 19: looks stunny.

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Speaker 6: And because with the MDF skin on it, it does

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01:17:29,935 --> 01:17:33,095
Speaker 6: give you a really really smooth finish, doesn't it It does.

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01:17:33,215 --> 01:17:35,975
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's it's when you look side by side with

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01:17:36,135 --> 01:17:38,655
Speaker 19: NDF and firewood, you get a really nice finish.

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Speaker 6: Nice in terms of some projects coming up, where do

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01:17:43,735 --> 01:17:45,215
Speaker 6: you think you'll be using tribwood next?

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Speaker 19: I use triboard on I'd say ninety five percent of

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01:17:50,135 --> 01:17:54,335
Speaker 19: my cabins, so I'll be using it this week. I

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01:17:54,455 --> 01:17:57,415
Speaker 19: buy it quite quite regularly, probably buy a pack of

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01:17:57,495 --> 01:18:02,055
Speaker 19: fifty every two weeks. Yes, Yeah, that's I was in

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01:18:02,135 --> 01:18:03,455
Speaker 19: stock in my in my workshop.

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01:18:03,695 --> 01:18:06,135
Speaker 6: It's brilliant. It's become sort of an integral part of

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01:18:06,335 --> 01:18:07,095
Speaker 6: the buildings that you do.

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01:18:08,015 --> 01:18:12,415
Speaker 19: Yeah, definitely. It's just that consistency, consistency and product price

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01:18:12,735 --> 01:18:14,255
Speaker 19: and availability.

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01:18:14,055 --> 01:18:17,055
Speaker 6: And and a finish that you're really happy with Yeah, and.

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01:18:17,095 --> 01:18:19,415
Speaker 19: Also the customers love that they come and they're always

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01:18:19,415 --> 01:18:22,015
Speaker 19: impressed with the finish. So that's that's I was. I

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01:18:22,175 --> 01:18:23,175
Speaker 19: was a bonus good to hear.

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Speaker 6: If you want to look at some of Brendan's projects,

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01:18:25,615 --> 01:18:28,295
Speaker 6: have a look at store dot co dot nz. That's

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01:18:28,495 --> 01:18:31,095
Speaker 6: s t o R dot co dot n z. To

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01:18:31,175 --> 01:18:34,335
Speaker 6: find out more about tryboard, go to JNL dot co

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Speaker 6: dot nz.

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Speaker 10: Z b.

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01:18:39,735 --> 01:18:41,455
Speaker 6: You and news talk z B. If you want more

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01:18:41,495 --> 01:18:44,015
Speaker 6: information on the triboard, just check out JNL dot co

1420
01:18:44,215 --> 01:18:48,255
Speaker 6: dot z for all the information on their range of products,

1421
01:18:48,295 --> 01:18:51,815
Speaker 6: which includes triboard and good old jframe as well, which

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01:18:51,815 --> 01:18:54,335
Speaker 6: I've got to go and pick up six hundred meters

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01:18:54,415 --> 01:18:58,055
Speaker 6: of jframe on Wednesday. I think for a project that

1424
01:18:58,215 --> 01:19:02,255
Speaker 6: made of Mind's doing so I might end up helping

1425
01:19:02,335 --> 01:19:03,935
Speaker 6: out for half a day as well. He's going to

1426
01:19:04,015 --> 01:19:07,575
Speaker 6: cut frame up on side. Haven't done that for a while.

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01:19:08,135 --> 01:19:09,855
Speaker 6: That should be good fun. Oh eight hundred and eighty

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01:19:09,975 --> 01:19:14,015
Speaker 6: ten eighty is the number to call quick text morning peak.

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01:19:14,055 --> 01:19:18,135
Speaker 6: We're changing wooden joinery to new double glazed aluminium jowinery.

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01:19:18,535 --> 01:19:20,575
Speaker 6: We're also putting in a new stacker in where the

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01:19:20,615 --> 01:19:22,455
Speaker 6: garage door is the work will be done by a

1432
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Speaker 6: licensed building practitioner. Do we need a building consent? Thanks Kathy.

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01:19:27,575 --> 01:19:31,775
Speaker 6: The question, Kathy is if you are putting in a

1434
01:19:32,255 --> 01:19:36,535
Speaker 6: stacker where the garage door is, is that are you

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01:19:36,655 --> 01:19:41,215
Speaker 6: intending to then use the garage for something other than

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01:19:41,255 --> 01:19:43,055
Speaker 6: the garage? And given it's very difficult to drive a

1437
01:19:43,135 --> 01:19:47,535
Speaker 6: car through a stacker, well certainly without damaging it, then

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01:19:47,695 --> 01:19:50,735
Speaker 6: I suspect that what you're doing is changing the purpose

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01:19:50,855 --> 01:20:01,295
Speaker 6: of that room. If you're going to make it into

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01:20:01,335 --> 01:20:04,375
Speaker 6: a habitable space, then that habitable space needs to comply

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01:20:04,535 --> 01:20:09,295
Speaker 6: with the building code. If it's an existing garage, is

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01:20:09,335 --> 01:20:14,255
Speaker 6: it insulated, does the cladding have a vapor barrier? Is

1443
01:20:14,335 --> 01:20:18,135
Speaker 6: there a vapor barrier under the slab? So those sorts

1444
01:20:18,175 --> 01:20:20,935
Speaker 6: of things might trigger a requirement for a building consent.

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01:20:21,375 --> 01:20:24,095
Speaker 6: Interestingly enough, and I found this document on the Organ

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01:20:24,135 --> 01:20:26,535
Speaker 6: Council website a couple of weeks ago when we were

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01:20:26,575 --> 01:20:30,655
Speaker 6: talking about a garage that had been converted into another space,

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01:20:31,295 --> 01:20:33,655
Speaker 6: originally like a rumpus and then ultimately it had a

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01:20:33,975 --> 01:20:38,735
Speaker 6: bed in there and that whole thing around change of

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01:20:38,935 --> 01:20:43,015
Speaker 6: use and the guidance from Augan Council on the PDF

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01:20:43,095 --> 01:20:46,775
Speaker 6: that I found was that change of use is not

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01:20:47,495 --> 01:20:49,335
Speaker 6: a reason to get a building consent.

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01:20:50,615 --> 01:20:50,695
Speaker 4: But.

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01:20:52,735 --> 01:20:58,055
Speaker 6: Pladding, joinery, vapor barriers, those are reasons to get building consents.

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01:20:58,095 --> 01:21:00,135
Speaker 6: And that's where I think, Kathy, you might need to

1456
01:21:00,135 --> 01:21:02,375
Speaker 6: get some advice on that as to whether or not

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01:21:02,495 --> 01:21:04,695
Speaker 6: you could do or should do that work without getting

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01:21:04,695 --> 01:21:09,375
Speaker 6: a building consent. Radio coming up. Actually we are getting

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01:21:09,535 --> 01:21:11,655
Speaker 6: very close to New Sport and we're the top of

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01:21:11,655 --> 01:21:15,175
Speaker 6: the hour. Do you think Steve will Holt We'll ask him.

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Speaker 6: We'll see. Just on the level one level two for

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01:21:20,735 --> 01:21:23,335
Speaker 6: the pole shed someone's text through Brian, thank you for this.

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01:21:24,015 --> 01:21:26,175
Speaker 6: Level one level two for the pole sheds relates to

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01:21:26,295 --> 01:21:29,255
Speaker 6: the overall rigidity of the building. Assuming that level two

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01:21:29,375 --> 01:21:32,375
Speaker 6: is going to be a ininhabitable space, it will have

1466
01:21:32,495 --> 01:21:35,895
Speaker 6: internal linings that are subject to cracking. So, for example,

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01:21:35,895 --> 01:21:38,215
Speaker 6: as the plaster boards us, regardless of level one and

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01:21:38,335 --> 01:21:41,615
Speaker 6: level two, sheds are designed for the specific wind zones

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Speaker 6: that they are subject to in their location, so there's

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01:21:45,935 --> 01:21:50,815
Speaker 6: rigidity as well, and obviously wind zones as well. We've

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Speaker 6: talked a little bit about the bamboo. Someone I mentioned

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01:21:55,695 --> 01:21:58,895
Speaker 6: a waterproofing product that I used a couple of weeks ago,

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01:21:58,935 --> 01:22:02,135
Speaker 6: A couple of months ago now actually on a flat roof,

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01:22:02,295 --> 01:22:04,855
Speaker 6: just to give me a little bit of extra protection

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01:22:04,975 --> 01:22:07,775
Speaker 6: for the winter. That's well on its way now. That

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01:22:07,975 --> 01:22:11,655
Speaker 6: was in juris so Injurius is the product there that

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01:22:11,735 --> 01:22:13,935
Speaker 6: I used just as an application over the top of

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01:22:14,015 --> 01:22:18,055
Speaker 6: an existing flat roof, essentially to extend its life. That's

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01:22:18,095 --> 01:22:19,815
Speaker 6: what I was trying to achieve and it seems to

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01:22:19,855 --> 01:22:22,455
Speaker 6: have worked pretty well at the stage as well, which

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01:22:22,535 --> 01:22:24,615
Speaker 6: is great. So Injurious was that the name of that

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01:22:24,695 --> 01:22:29,135
Speaker 6: one at this stage? Wellington Council is the most expensive

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01:22:29,175 --> 01:22:32,095
Speaker 6: council to request a limb from. I've just been online

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01:22:32,135 --> 01:22:35,375
Speaker 6: to the Auckland Council website. Standard limb three hundred and

1485
01:22:35,455 --> 01:22:40,495
Speaker 6: sixty seven dollars, Wellington five hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor. Get the right advice from

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01:22:44,735 --> 01:22:47,895
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder on Newstalk ZMB.

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Speaker 6: You're a news talk zb oh eight hundred and eighty

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01:22:51,295 --> 01:22:55,855
Speaker 6: ten eighty is the number to call. Just completely unrelated

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01:22:55,895 --> 01:22:58,175
Speaker 6: to this, but a highlight for my week, I have

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Speaker 6: to say. I went on Thursday evening to the gala

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01:23:02,855 --> 01:23:08,055
Speaker 6: performance for the Big Singh Coral Competition. Essentially which has

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01:23:08,135 --> 01:23:12,135
Speaker 6: run around the country for secondary schools and choirs enter

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01:23:12,695 --> 01:23:15,855
Speaker 6: and they in Auckland, for example, they competed over three days,

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01:23:15,895 --> 01:23:19,415
Speaker 6: so Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and then the groups that competed

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01:23:19,455 --> 01:23:23,535
Speaker 6: on Thursday then all performed one piece. From there they

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Speaker 6: have to do three songs for the competition. They performed

1498
01:23:26,575 --> 01:23:29,495
Speaker 6: one piece to a gala performance that mom and dad

1499
01:23:29,695 --> 01:23:31,375
Speaker 6: like us can come along and have a look at.

1500
01:23:33,095 --> 01:23:36,175
Speaker 6: I'm new to this whole world, but we went last

1501
01:23:36,255 --> 01:23:39,575
Speaker 6: year and enjoyed it. Went on Thursday night. What a

1502
01:23:39,775 --> 01:23:44,575
Speaker 6: fantastic event, just fantastic. And to see a whole bunch

1503
01:23:44,655 --> 01:23:50,775
Speaker 6: of secondary school students who are obviously disciplined, engaged, very professional,

1504
01:23:51,895 --> 01:23:55,655
Speaker 6: presenting a wide range of choral music to such a

1505
01:23:55,735 --> 01:23:59,935
Speaker 6: high standard. What a fantastic event. If your school age

1506
01:24:00,015 --> 01:24:02,215
Speaker 6: kid comes home and goes, I'm thinking of getting involved

1507
01:24:02,215 --> 01:24:04,295
Speaker 6: in a choir and going to the big thing. Don't

1508
01:24:04,335 --> 01:24:07,175
Speaker 6: stand their way. It's absolutely fantastic. I had a great

1509
01:24:07,215 --> 01:24:10,815
Speaker 6: time on thusday, Rightio eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1510
01:24:10,975 --> 01:24:13,975
Speaker 6: is the number to call. Steve, very patient man, Thank

1511
01:24:14,015 --> 01:24:16,655
Speaker 6: you very much for waiting. Let's talk property files.

1512
01:24:18,295 --> 01:24:22,295
Speaker 4: Yeah here, Pete, Yeah, okay, look as you probably know

1513
01:24:22,335 --> 01:24:25,375
Speaker 4: I've been. We've talked before. I'm an architectural designer. You

1514
01:24:25,695 --> 01:24:29,735
Speaker 4: have been the book industry over toty year. And look,

1515
01:24:29,775 --> 01:24:31,535
Speaker 4: it's just one thing I wanted to bring up to

1516
01:24:31,655 --> 01:24:37,135
Speaker 4: about the about code compliances, right and what homeowners need

1517
01:24:37,255 --> 01:24:39,335
Speaker 4: to be sort of wary of. And I believe that

1518
01:24:39,775 --> 01:24:41,935
Speaker 4: the disconnect and I'm running into I run into the

1519
01:24:42,015 --> 01:24:44,415
Speaker 4: situation quite often. And you don't know if you hear

1520
01:24:44,495 --> 01:24:47,575
Speaker 4: about it much yourself, because it sounds like you're very

1521
01:24:47,655 --> 01:24:51,855
Speaker 4: diligent in helping your clients get their code compliances, and

1522
01:24:51,975 --> 01:24:55,055
Speaker 4: you probably arrange things as for them as a matter

1523
01:24:55,135 --> 01:24:58,535
Speaker 4: of goodwill. But what the situations I run into is

1524
01:24:58,575 --> 01:25:02,695
Speaker 4: that not every field is as diligence and as conscientious

1525
01:25:02,775 --> 01:25:06,055
Speaker 4: as you peek. And you probably know about this situation

1526
01:25:06,335 --> 01:25:09,295
Speaker 4: where there's a bit of a disconnect. So the builder

1527
01:25:09,335 --> 01:25:12,255
Speaker 4: will quote the job and you'll get his final you'll

1528
01:25:12,255 --> 01:25:15,735
Speaker 4: get probably his final payment on the final inspection, which

1529
01:25:15,815 --> 01:25:22,175
Speaker 4: is the practical the practical completion inspection, and that'll generally

1530
01:25:22,295 --> 01:25:25,095
Speaker 4: be the end, the end point for the builder and

1531
01:25:25,175 --> 01:25:27,775
Speaker 4: he'll get his final payment. Now, the owners happy with

1532
01:25:27,855 --> 01:25:30,215
Speaker 4: this because it's great, right, you've had the council come through,

1533
01:25:30,335 --> 01:25:33,375
Speaker 4: do the inspection after and they think all the hard

1534
01:25:33,415 --> 01:25:36,575
Speaker 4: work's been done. Hey, but wait, they've forgotten they got

1535
01:25:36,695 --> 01:25:40,655
Speaker 4: coded compliance. And a lot of them don't actually have

1536
01:25:40,815 --> 01:25:43,495
Speaker 4: any idea that they're the ones who are meant to

1537
01:25:43,815 --> 01:25:47,415
Speaker 4: arrange all the paperwork. And a lot of the time

1538
01:25:47,495 --> 01:25:49,775
Speaker 4: the building goes quiet, he goes off to the next job.

1539
01:25:50,055 --> 01:25:51,975
Speaker 4: The owners happy they're living in it, and they don't

1540
01:25:52,015 --> 01:25:54,975
Speaker 4: realize but in the background, the code of compliance hasn't

1541
01:25:55,015 --> 01:25:58,535
Speaker 4: been applied for And then time is picking on the

1542
01:25:58,655 --> 01:26:01,175
Speaker 4: expiry date, and then all of a sudden they get

1543
01:26:01,335 --> 01:26:04,055
Speaker 4: the home owner two years later, it gets letters coming

1544
01:26:04,095 --> 01:26:06,095
Speaker 4: in from the council going, you're you're building going to

1545
01:26:06,095 --> 01:26:07,895
Speaker 4: see it's about to expire. You won't be able to

1546
01:26:07,895 --> 01:26:10,855
Speaker 4: get your code compliance. Send them into a panic. I

1547
01:26:10,975 --> 01:26:13,655
Speaker 4: get a call, I get the building from the get go.

1548
01:26:13,855 --> 01:26:16,255
Speaker 4: They think it's my job. I say no, I get

1549
01:26:16,255 --> 01:26:18,335
Speaker 4: your building consents and then we hand it over to

1550
01:26:18,415 --> 01:26:21,935
Speaker 4: the builder. Your builder should have really helped you out there. Now,

1551
01:26:22,015 --> 01:26:25,815
Speaker 4: I think there's a gap in the law there right

1552
01:26:25,895 --> 01:26:30,135
Speaker 4: in the regulatory environment that's allowing this gap. Do you

1553
01:26:30,295 --> 01:26:34,295
Speaker 4: believe that builders should have some sort of obligation.

1554
01:26:34,615 --> 01:26:40,335
Speaker 6: No, I don't, Actually, I really don't, and for the

1555
01:26:40,415 --> 01:26:45,175
Speaker 6: simple reason that so we'll just part that right. So,

1556
01:26:45,295 --> 01:26:47,895
Speaker 6: I don't think that we need to add more legislation

1557
01:26:48,215 --> 01:26:51,695
Speaker 6: or more responsibility on builders lbps to work with their

1558
01:26:51,735 --> 01:26:54,415
Speaker 6: clients to get the LBP to get the CCC through.

1559
01:26:55,055 --> 01:26:57,575
Speaker 6: I think what we do need to do is to

1560
01:26:57,735 --> 01:27:01,695
Speaker 6: have a bit more education around the responsibilities of people

1561
01:27:01,735 --> 01:27:05,095
Speaker 6: who are having building work done to get the CCC

1562
01:27:05,295 --> 01:27:09,615
Speaker 6: signed off, and that responsibility rests with the homeowner. Now,

1563
01:27:10,895 --> 01:27:13,615
Speaker 6: you know, it would be really easy for a homeowner

1564
01:27:13,975 --> 01:27:17,575
Speaker 6: when engaging with a builder for restricted building work, work

1565
01:27:17,615 --> 01:27:19,655
Speaker 6: that requires a consent, work that's going to need a

1566
01:27:19,735 --> 01:27:23,975
Speaker 6: CCC to have it finished, right, is to go to

1567
01:27:24,135 --> 01:27:28,095
Speaker 6: the builder as part of your contract to me, can

1568
01:27:28,175 --> 01:27:30,735
Speaker 6: you allow some time tell me what it's going to

1569
01:27:30,775 --> 01:27:34,375
Speaker 6: cost for you to apply and get the CCC and

1570
01:27:34,535 --> 01:27:36,455
Speaker 6: add it to the contract. It's as simple as that.

1571
01:27:37,335 --> 01:27:39,655
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what people, you know, the reality

1572
01:27:39,735 --> 01:27:41,655
Speaker 4: on the ground as we hear about education in New

1573
01:27:41,735 --> 01:27:44,855
Speaker 4: Zealand for everything, let's just educate that, let's educate this

1574
01:27:44,975 --> 01:27:47,175
Speaker 4: and that and that it never it never works.

1575
01:27:47,255 --> 01:27:47,455
Speaker 8: Mate.

1576
01:27:47,695 --> 01:27:49,055
Speaker 4: You've got to have you've got to have a bit

1577
01:27:49,095 --> 01:27:50,735
Speaker 4: of stick at the end, because the homeowner at the

1578
01:27:50,775 --> 01:27:53,615
Speaker 4: beginning gets your quotes from the builders, right, and they're

1579
01:27:53,655 --> 01:27:56,335
Speaker 4: overwhelmed with all this paperwork. I get that they have

1580
01:27:56,455 --> 01:27:59,295
Speaker 4: no idea what's going on, and so I and saying,

1581
01:27:59,695 --> 01:28:03,135
Speaker 4: you know, like I said, education only works on people

1582
01:28:03,255 --> 01:28:05,655
Speaker 4: like you, mate, people who want to take it an

1583
01:28:05,695 --> 01:28:07,015
Speaker 4: absorbit to.

1584
01:28:07,135 --> 01:28:09,775
Speaker 6: Be fair to the work particularly well with me. But no,

1585
01:28:09,935 --> 01:28:13,095
Speaker 6: I just think it's at this stage. I think the

1586
01:28:13,255 --> 01:28:16,095
Speaker 6: best thing that we could do is to just really

1587
01:28:16,175 --> 01:28:21,655
Speaker 6: emphasize the fact that if as a homeowner, you know

1588
01:28:22,015 --> 01:28:24,135
Speaker 6: what your responsibilities are. And that's why I've got a

1589
01:28:24,175 --> 01:28:25,895
Speaker 6: text an hour and a half ago someone said, look,

1590
01:28:26,175 --> 01:28:30,735
Speaker 6: we've just done a relatively minor alteration how the builders finished.

1591
01:28:30,735 --> 01:28:33,255
Speaker 6: The final inspection was done. We got the paperwork. It

1592
01:28:33,335 --> 01:28:35,895
Speaker 6: took me a morning to get everything together. I've submitted

1593
01:28:35,895 --> 01:28:38,815
Speaker 6: it and I've got the CCC. So you know, I

1594
01:28:38,855 --> 01:28:41,495
Speaker 6: don't want to present an image where the CCC is

1595
01:28:41,575 --> 01:28:44,415
Speaker 6: really really hard to get. Often it's just a case

1596
01:28:44,495 --> 01:28:46,535
Speaker 6: of knowing what you need and that can be a

1597
01:28:46,575 --> 01:28:49,935
Speaker 6: bit challenging and then submitting it in a timely fashion.

1598
01:28:50,095 --> 01:28:55,375
Speaker 6: So I just think if as a if you're a

1599
01:28:56,335 --> 01:29:00,695
Speaker 6: client and you've contracted a builder and you are unsure

1600
01:29:00,735 --> 01:29:02,815
Speaker 6: about that process or you feel that you don't have

1601
01:29:02,895 --> 01:29:04,655
Speaker 6: the bandwidth to do it, you know, in terms of

1602
01:29:04,735 --> 01:29:09,535
Speaker 6: time and experience. Then just add the responsibility to get

1603
01:29:09,575 --> 01:29:12,335
Speaker 6: the CCC back on the builder. The builder will charge

1604
01:29:12,375 --> 01:29:14,655
Speaker 6: you the time for it, which is appropriate, but then

1605
01:29:14,695 --> 01:29:16,015
Speaker 6: at least you know it's going to get done.

1606
01:29:16,815 --> 01:29:18,655
Speaker 4: But what about this pee do you think the homeowners

1607
01:29:18,655 --> 01:29:20,975
Speaker 4: should hold final a portion of the payment back and

1608
01:29:21,055 --> 01:29:24,815
Speaker 4: tool code compliances are received because the builder has an

1609
01:29:24,815 --> 01:29:27,535
Speaker 4: obligation to provide paperwork. And this is what people don't

1610
01:29:27,615 --> 01:29:30,535
Speaker 4: understand or the producers. Yes, so a lot of the

1611
01:29:30,615 --> 01:29:33,695
Speaker 4: time they don't get that. In my experience, there's a

1612
01:29:33,775 --> 01:29:36,895
Speaker 4: lot of lazy builders out there. And let's face it,

1613
01:29:37,135 --> 01:29:39,015
Speaker 4: we like to say New Zealanders don't do this kind

1614
01:29:39,055 --> 01:29:41,615
Speaker 4: of thing, but they do. They're like any other trades

1615
01:29:41,655 --> 01:29:43,975
Speaker 4: person in the world. There are roague ones out there

1616
01:29:44,055 --> 01:29:47,015
Speaker 4: and they'll take the easiest path like water, and they'll

1617
01:29:47,055 --> 01:29:50,335
Speaker 4: grab that final payment and they'll disappear and you try

1618
01:29:50,415 --> 01:29:52,175
Speaker 4: getting them back if they if they've already had their

1619
01:29:52,215 --> 01:29:55,575
Speaker 4: final payment. So I believe home oders need to hold

1620
01:29:56,855 --> 01:29:58,935
Speaker 4: if there was some sort of education thing. It's got

1621
01:29:58,975 --> 01:30:01,055
Speaker 4: to be from the get go from the council, I believe,

1622
01:30:01,135 --> 01:30:03,975
Speaker 4: because they do read through the consent packs when they

1623
01:30:04,055 --> 01:30:07,095
Speaker 4: get their building consent. I always tell my clients when

1624
01:30:07,135 --> 01:30:09,215
Speaker 4: they get their building consent because I've done all the plans,

1625
01:30:09,255 --> 01:30:12,575
Speaker 4: I have a read for the consent pack on everything,

1626
01:30:12,695 --> 01:30:16,735
Speaker 4: because they're little bits in there. There are miss and

1627
01:30:16,895 --> 01:30:19,335
Speaker 4: like getting your engineers to inspect as well. A lot

1628
01:30:19,375 --> 01:30:21,375
Speaker 4: of the time they missed this and the builder doesn't

1629
01:30:21,735 --> 01:30:25,455
Speaker 4: arrange the engineer, the private structural engineer as well to

1630
01:30:25,535 --> 01:30:27,295
Speaker 4: have a look. And then all of a sudden at

1631
01:30:27,335 --> 01:30:30,335
Speaker 4: the end the council's asking for the PS four producer

1632
01:30:30,415 --> 01:30:33,095
Speaker 4: statement and the homeowners going, oh, what the heck's that?

1633
01:30:33,335 --> 01:30:36,255
Speaker 4: I'm getting a call two years later. And then also

1634
01:30:36,335 --> 01:30:39,535
Speaker 4: a little bit guilty because they're using jargon that can

1635
01:30:39,615 --> 01:30:45,255
Speaker 4: panic the homeowner, like we're going to cancel yours. You

1636
01:30:45,295 --> 01:30:47,455
Speaker 4: know if you and I were if we got on

1637
01:30:47,495 --> 01:30:51,775
Speaker 4: the ticket for the next maryalty. People. I want to

1638
01:30:52,495 --> 01:30:54,015
Speaker 4: know where all all the problems are to.

1639
01:30:54,055 --> 01:30:57,095
Speaker 6: Point out something to be really clear for people. So

1640
01:30:57,855 --> 01:31:01,615
Speaker 6: a licensed building practitioner doing restricted building work has an

1641
01:31:01,615 --> 01:31:04,375
Speaker 6: obligation under the Act to provide a record of work

1642
01:31:04,455 --> 01:31:11,095
Speaker 6: or a memorandum of work, right, and they can't. Regardless,

1643
01:31:12,175 --> 01:31:16,135
Speaker 6: you can't withhold that in order to ensure payment. And

1644
01:31:16,575 --> 01:31:21,935
Speaker 6: I know someone an LBP who knew that, got that

1645
01:31:22,135 --> 01:31:24,015
Speaker 6: sense right that the client wasn't going to pay the

1646
01:31:24,055 --> 01:31:27,615
Speaker 6: final invoice, and so they said, well, we're not going

1647
01:31:27,735 --> 01:31:29,335
Speaker 6: to you know, I'm not going to give you a

1648
01:31:29,415 --> 01:31:31,575
Speaker 6: record of work for the work that I've done until

1649
01:31:31,615 --> 01:31:35,015
Speaker 6: you pay me. And the client went to the disciplinary board.

1650
01:31:35,095 --> 01:31:37,975
Speaker 6: The board investigated and find the guy two thousand dollars

1651
01:31:38,095 --> 01:31:41,375
Speaker 6: for withholding a record of work. Right, So it's really

1652
01:31:41,455 --> 01:31:44,415
Speaker 6: clear for us as LBPS, we must issue a record

1653
01:31:44,455 --> 01:31:46,615
Speaker 6: of work when required for the work that we've done.

1654
01:31:47,895 --> 01:31:51,335
Speaker 6: But look, to sum this up, I think I think

1655
01:31:51,375 --> 01:31:55,855
Speaker 6: it's really important that the home owners understand their responsibility

1656
01:31:55,935 --> 01:31:58,135
Speaker 6: in order to get it. The simplest thing to do

1657
01:31:58,295 --> 01:32:00,215
Speaker 6: is if you don't think you can do it, or

1658
01:32:00,255 --> 01:32:02,135
Speaker 6: you don't know enough about it, or you don't have

1659
01:32:02,255 --> 01:32:04,895
Speaker 6: the time to do it, or you're not interested or whatever,

1660
01:32:05,335 --> 01:32:08,135
Speaker 6: add it into the building contracts you've got with It

1661
01:32:08,255 --> 01:32:10,055
Speaker 6: could be with the designer. I mean, you could do

1662
01:32:10,135 --> 01:32:13,255
Speaker 6: it on behalf of a client. The LBP could do it.

1663
01:32:13,655 --> 01:32:15,815
Speaker 6: You know, a project manager could do it. Anyone could

1664
01:32:15,815 --> 01:32:18,855
Speaker 6: do it. You just hand the responsibility over, agree to

1665
01:32:19,295 --> 01:32:22,095
Speaker 6: the cost, and go right. It's your job. And if

1666
01:32:22,135 --> 01:32:24,455
Speaker 6: it's not your job, then it's ultimately going to be

1667
01:32:24,495 --> 01:32:25,335
Speaker 6: the homeowner's job.

1668
01:32:26,375 --> 01:32:27,935
Speaker 4: I'll hear your pete. Can I say one more thing

1669
01:32:27,975 --> 01:32:30,215
Speaker 4: before we go? I'll tell you what you talk about

1670
01:32:30,255 --> 01:32:34,255
Speaker 4: homeowners and educating them? How long is a licensed building practitioners?

1671
01:32:35,935 --> 01:32:36,095
Speaker 9: You know?

1672
01:32:37,295 --> 01:32:39,615
Speaker 4: How long has that been in place for trades people

1673
01:32:39,655 --> 01:32:41,815
Speaker 4: to be licensed? Been in place? What for fifteen years?

1674
01:32:41,815 --> 01:32:41,935
Speaker 5: Now?

1675
01:32:42,055 --> 01:32:42,215
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1676
01:32:42,215 --> 01:32:44,655
Speaker 6: I mean I got registered in twenty twelve, so that's

1677
01:32:44,695 --> 01:32:45,375
Speaker 6: thin end years ago.

1678
01:32:46,455 --> 01:32:46,735
Speaker 8: You know.

1679
01:32:47,455 --> 01:32:49,775
Speaker 4: Most now, I deal with hundreds of people, of course

1680
01:32:49,815 --> 01:32:52,215
Speaker 4: for a year, right who want to do alterations new builds.

1681
01:32:52,655 --> 01:32:55,455
Speaker 4: They most of them have no idea about a licensed

1682
01:32:55,455 --> 01:32:58,295
Speaker 4: building practitioner where to look if they have to be lighted.

1683
01:32:58,615 --> 01:33:03,615
Speaker 4: They still think a master builders a building practitioner. Now

1684
01:33:04,175 --> 01:33:04,775
Speaker 4: is it crazy?

1685
01:33:05,295 --> 01:33:05,495
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1686
01:33:05,535 --> 01:33:05,735
Speaker 6: I know?

1687
01:33:06,735 --> 01:33:09,135
Speaker 4: And they still go off as a good bloke, he

1688
01:33:09,655 --> 01:33:10,535
Speaker 4: good dog in the back.

1689
01:33:12,415 --> 01:33:15,175
Speaker 6: I hear yeah, I hear, yeah, I hear you. And

1690
01:33:15,255 --> 01:33:17,655
Speaker 6: that's why that's why we talk about and that's why

1691
01:33:17,695 --> 01:33:20,655
Speaker 6: I'll continue to sort of you know, talk about these

1692
01:33:20,735 --> 01:33:23,695
Speaker 6: other basics. Right, this is the stuff that everybody needs

1693
01:33:23,735 --> 01:33:27,295
Speaker 6: to know about what an LBP is, what restricted building workers,

1694
01:33:28,215 --> 01:33:31,055
Speaker 6: and hopefully what the CCC is. And you should feel

1695
01:33:31,055 --> 01:33:32,695
Speaker 6: really good about getting one at the end of the job.

1696
01:33:33,455 --> 01:33:35,815
Speaker 6: Good to talk with you. Always a pleasure. Seventeen minutes

1697
01:33:35,815 --> 01:33:36,935
Speaker 6: after eight back after.

1698
01:33:36,815 --> 01:33:40,615
Speaker 1: The break, helping you get those DIY projects done right.

1699
01:33:40,855 --> 01:33:45,895
Speaker 1: The resident builder with peta wolfcat call us talk said, be.

1700
01:33:46,975 --> 01:33:49,695
Speaker 6: Delightful, text Pete. Surely the highlight of the week was

1701
01:33:49,735 --> 01:33:51,655
Speaker 6: coming back to find your ute had a good old

1702
01:33:51,855 --> 01:33:57,415
Speaker 6: ykattow greeting on it. Yes, that was delightful. Not so

1703
01:33:58,295 --> 01:34:00,975
Speaker 6: went to field days on Friday, parked in the paddock

1704
01:34:01,055 --> 01:34:03,655
Speaker 6: like he now stares, ended up parking at the end

1705
01:34:03,695 --> 01:34:06,415
Speaker 6: of the line, and I suspect that I was the

1706
01:34:06,535 --> 01:34:08,575
Speaker 6: last one to park there because the patch next to

1707
01:34:08,655 --> 01:34:11,895
Speaker 6: me was quite sodden. Anyway, upon returning to the car

1708
01:34:12,455 --> 01:34:15,615
Speaker 6: at about sometime after five o'clock on the Friday, got

1709
01:34:15,695 --> 01:34:17,375
Speaker 6: up to the car and I'm looking thinking, oh, why

1710
01:34:17,415 --> 01:34:19,335
Speaker 6: can't I see through the windows to the other side.

1711
01:34:19,335 --> 01:34:22,575
Speaker 6: So I went round to the passenger side and without

1712
01:34:22,575 --> 01:34:24,655
Speaker 6: a word of a light, at least sixty percent of

1713
01:34:24,695 --> 01:34:27,215
Speaker 6: the car was covered in mud. It was on the roof,

1714
01:34:27,415 --> 01:34:29,575
Speaker 6: was on the bonnet, it was all over the doors,

1715
01:34:29,655 --> 01:34:32,375
Speaker 6: the windows, the side mirror of the whole lot. So

1716
01:34:32,495 --> 01:34:35,895
Speaker 6: someone had obviously had some fun in the in the

1717
01:34:36,255 --> 01:34:38,735
Speaker 6: mud pile or in the puddle next to the car.

1718
01:34:40,055 --> 01:34:42,095
Speaker 6: So that's my day to day. To be fair, I've

1719
01:34:42,135 --> 01:34:44,855
Speaker 6: been through two car washes. It still didn't take it off.

1720
01:34:45,695 --> 01:34:47,695
Speaker 6: The photos up on my Facebook page. If you're going

1721
01:34:47,735 --> 01:34:49,895
Speaker 6: to have look for a resident builder, you'll see it there.

1722
01:34:50,375 --> 01:34:53,135
Speaker 6: Have a chuckle on my behalf Muhammed, good morning.

1723
01:34:54,095 --> 01:34:58,735
Speaker 22: I'd be done, good money. I just wanted to know

1724
01:34:58,975 --> 01:35:03,095
Speaker 22: that people who were already built a two bedroom house

1725
01:35:03,255 --> 01:35:06,055
Speaker 22: a small one and they have worked a lounge unit,

1726
01:35:06,575 --> 01:35:10,175
Speaker 22: kitchen in, a toilet and bathroom and two bedroom, but

1727
01:35:10,375 --> 01:35:13,735
Speaker 22: it has not been approved previously. So what is the

1728
01:35:13,815 --> 01:35:16,535
Speaker 22: situation for them now? Do they still need to get

1729
01:35:16,575 --> 01:35:19,815
Speaker 22: that content or level automatically be consented.

1730
01:35:20,335 --> 01:35:24,895
Speaker 6: It will not automatically be consented. I emphasize this strongly

1731
01:35:25,055 --> 01:35:29,575
Speaker 6: because the current proposal to have up to seventy square

1732
01:35:29,655 --> 01:35:33,415
Speaker 6: meters built without a building consent is not law yet.

1733
01:35:34,535 --> 01:35:37,895
Speaker 6: So if you have built or have something that is

1734
01:35:37,935 --> 01:35:42,135
Speaker 6: a habitable structure, whatever size, and it doesn't have a

1735
01:35:42,175 --> 01:35:47,415
Speaker 6: building consent. That is a non consented, non compliant, illegal building,

1736
01:35:47,895 --> 01:35:51,295
Speaker 6: right in order to make it a legal building. You

1737
01:35:51,455 --> 01:35:54,935
Speaker 6: can't get a building consent for something that's already built.

1738
01:35:55,495 --> 01:35:59,095
Speaker 6: What you can try and do is get a certificate

1739
01:35:59,135 --> 01:36:02,095
Speaker 6: of acceptance. But in order to get that, you have

1740
01:36:02,295 --> 01:36:05,295
Speaker 6: to prove that the building complies with the building code.

1741
01:36:06,375 --> 01:36:09,855
Speaker 6: For example, if it's been built and you say it's

1742
01:36:09,895 --> 01:36:12,375
Speaker 6: got insulation, and you need to prove that. If you

1743
01:36:12,455 --> 01:36:15,815
Speaker 6: can't prove it, you'll need to do destructive testing to

1744
01:36:15,975 --> 01:36:19,615
Speaker 6: identify that the insulation is in place, that ere is

1745
01:36:19,615 --> 01:36:23,055
Speaker 6: a vapor barrier, that the electrical work is compliant, that

1746
01:36:23,135 --> 01:36:26,255
Speaker 6: the plumbing is compliant. I suspect it will cost you

1747
01:36:26,495 --> 01:36:30,175
Speaker 6: more to get a certificate of acceptance than it would

1748
01:36:30,415 --> 01:36:32,495
Speaker 6: if you had got a building consent in the first place.

1749
01:36:33,015 --> 01:36:37,175
Speaker 22: So when is this this is going to be.

1750
01:36:39,415 --> 01:36:42,455
Speaker 6: Is coming, but it won't cover buildings that are already built,

1751
01:36:43,375 --> 01:36:46,855
Speaker 6: so you can't You can't wait for the legislation to

1752
01:36:46,975 --> 01:36:49,335
Speaker 6: come in and then go, oh, by the way, I've

1753
01:36:49,375 --> 01:36:56,295
Speaker 6: got one, so that building will remain non compliant, right, right, OK,

1754
01:36:56,655 --> 01:37:03,095
Speaker 6: no trouble at all, Take care, right, Graham, Good morning, Graham,

1755
01:37:04,375 --> 01:37:04,775
Speaker 6: Good morning.

1756
01:37:07,135 --> 01:37:10,175
Speaker 9: I've just got a quick question. So I'm replacing a

1757
01:37:10,615 --> 01:37:14,215
Speaker 9: dechromatic tile roof with a long run roof and iron. Yep,

1758
01:37:15,495 --> 01:37:20,135
Speaker 9: Now I've got different quotes. And the difference between a

1759
01:37:20,215 --> 01:37:23,455
Speaker 9: point four milimeter and a point five five milimeter roofing

1760
01:37:23,455 --> 01:37:25,735
Speaker 9: and iron, Yes, I mean I understand one is obviously

1761
01:37:25,815 --> 01:37:28,855
Speaker 9: thicker than the other, and so forth. Is there any

1762
01:37:28,935 --> 01:37:33,135
Speaker 9: fishworks or anything I need to be aware of by

1763
01:37:33,295 --> 01:37:35,655
Speaker 9: using the thicker roofing iron? It just seems like a

1764
01:37:35,735 --> 01:37:38,055
Speaker 9: no brainer to use a thicker roof and iron, it's all.

1765
01:37:38,175 --> 01:37:39,175
Speaker 9: And I don't understand why.

1766
01:37:39,575 --> 01:37:43,135
Speaker 6: In terms of durability, there won't be a lot of difference, right,

1767
01:37:43,295 --> 01:37:45,015
Speaker 6: so in terms of how long it lasts and the

1768
01:37:45,055 --> 01:37:46,615
Speaker 6: thickness of the coating and all the rest of it.

1769
01:37:46,815 --> 01:37:50,455
Speaker 6: Where it can be an advantage is if someone gets

1770
01:37:50,495 --> 01:37:52,695
Speaker 6: on the roof and they have to go and service

1771
01:37:52,775 --> 01:37:54,975
Speaker 6: the TV aeriel or a flashing or something like that,

1772
01:37:55,135 --> 01:37:57,095
Speaker 6: and they stand in the wrong place and the world's

1773
01:37:57,095 --> 01:38:00,775
Speaker 6: full of muppets, then it will be a little bit stronger,

1774
01:38:01,855 --> 01:38:04,295
Speaker 6: you know, span between the perlins those sorts of things,

1775
01:38:05,175 --> 01:38:08,135
Speaker 6: that's all. And whether you get either one of those,

1776
01:38:08,215 --> 01:38:11,775
Speaker 6: it'll it'll still be the same. So I mean, I

1777
01:38:12,695 --> 01:38:15,975
Speaker 6: if the client can or if I can, I'll typically

1778
01:38:16,095 --> 01:38:18,255
Speaker 6: go for the point five to five just because it

1779
01:38:18,295 --> 01:38:20,455
Speaker 6: gives me that little bit of extra protection if someone

1780
01:38:20,535 --> 01:38:24,775
Speaker 6: stands in the wrong place. That's from my own experience. Yeah.

1781
01:38:24,895 --> 01:38:25,095
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1782
01:38:25,095 --> 01:38:26,695
Speaker 9: And I live out in the country, so we got

1783
01:38:26,735 --> 01:38:29,295
Speaker 9: resurrounded by trees and stuff too, so I've got to

1784
01:38:29,295 --> 01:38:30,735
Speaker 9: get up and clean of gutters every now and then

1785
01:38:30,775 --> 01:38:31,295
Speaker 9: and so forth.

1786
01:38:32,455 --> 01:38:32,695
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1787
01:38:32,975 --> 01:38:33,335
Speaker 6: Perfect.

1788
01:38:33,775 --> 01:38:37,375
Speaker 9: And the second thing was, I'm also getting a quote

1789
01:38:37,415 --> 01:38:41,895
Speaker 9: because I'm getting new new gathering and stuff, and I've

1790
01:38:41,935 --> 01:38:46,615
Speaker 9: had the external faces on this old house and so

1791
01:38:46,775 --> 01:38:49,815
Speaker 9: they're replacing that with the gutters on the outside of

1792
01:38:49,855 --> 01:38:56,775
Speaker 9: the great Now, I'm getting two different quotes, ones for

1793
01:38:57,015 --> 01:39:02,055
Speaker 9: color steel facia, once for a wooden facia other than looks,

1794
01:39:02,255 --> 01:39:06,255
Speaker 9: is there any difference between the two? The wood would

1795
01:39:06,375 --> 01:39:10,415
Speaker 9: last just as long as a color steel or in your.

1796
01:39:10,375 --> 01:39:13,695
Speaker 6: Experience, yeah, I mean, in terms of that sort of

1797
01:39:13,775 --> 01:39:17,895
Speaker 6: retrofit solution. So if you've got an existing internal spouting,

1798
01:39:18,055 --> 01:39:22,295
Speaker 6: you know, exposed facier type arrangement, there's a couple of

1799
01:39:22,335 --> 01:39:25,615
Speaker 6: companies that I know that have a system to substitute

1800
01:39:25,655 --> 01:39:29,015
Speaker 6: those and they would typically include a metal facier with

1801
01:39:29,175 --> 01:39:33,815
Speaker 6: an external spouting on it. So there's whereas if you

1802
01:39:33,855 --> 01:39:37,695
Speaker 6: were going for a timber facier, then typically the carpenter

1803
01:39:37,695 --> 01:39:39,575
Speaker 6: will have to come, They'll have to adjust the end

1804
01:39:39,615 --> 01:39:42,135
Speaker 6: of the rafters, they might have to redo the sfets

1805
01:39:42,135 --> 01:39:44,815
Speaker 6: and so forth, So it would be I would have

1806
01:39:44,855 --> 01:39:47,375
Speaker 6: thought it would have been considerably more expensive to do

1807
01:39:47,575 --> 01:39:51,375
Speaker 6: a timber facier than it would be to use one

1808
01:39:51,415 --> 01:39:55,975
Speaker 6: of those systems for retrofit for exterior spouting or internal spouting,

1809
01:39:56,855 --> 01:39:59,295
Speaker 6: So costwise, I would have thought it was cheaper. I guess.

1810
01:39:59,335 --> 01:40:00,895
Speaker 6: The other thing too, is that you know, if you

1811
01:40:00,975 --> 01:40:05,215
Speaker 6: do color steel as a external facia, then you know

1812
01:40:05,375 --> 01:40:08,935
Speaker 6: you won't be painting it five years time. Well, well

1813
01:40:09,375 --> 01:40:10,335
Speaker 6: it'll last a lot longer.

1814
01:40:10,415 --> 01:40:13,695
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, because I was just thinking, well,

1815
01:40:13,775 --> 01:40:18,455
Speaker 9: it's going to be a cover steel roof or you know,

1816
01:40:18,615 --> 01:40:22,135
Speaker 9: like a long roof and iron the same with the

1817
01:40:23,295 --> 01:40:30,655
Speaker 9: gutting what they call it continuous Yeah yeah, yeah, and

1818
01:40:31,055 --> 01:40:35,255
Speaker 9: the external facial will be the same material to make

1819
01:40:35,295 --> 01:40:37,055
Speaker 9: it all look the same. That's what I would have assumed.

1820
01:40:37,055 --> 01:40:39,055
Speaker 9: That I've got different quotes of different materials. I just

1821
01:40:39,135 --> 01:40:40,935
Speaker 9: want to double check with you see if there's any

1822
01:40:41,695 --> 01:40:43,815
Speaker 9: anything I'm missing here, any any fish ups on?

1823
01:40:44,775 --> 01:40:47,255
Speaker 6: Seems like you've got it all in order, obviously when

1824
01:40:47,295 --> 01:40:51,295
Speaker 6: they take the dechroymastic off. And loath to mention this,

1825
01:40:51,455 --> 01:40:54,495
Speaker 6: but there was an issue or there was a statement

1826
01:40:54,575 --> 01:40:56,575
Speaker 6: issued by work Safe a number of years ago that

1827
01:40:56,815 --> 01:41:00,415
Speaker 6: some types of that sort of metal tile with the

1828
01:41:01,175 --> 01:41:03,615
Speaker 6: stone chip on it, which is basically dechromestic, and some

1829
01:41:03,775 --> 01:41:08,655
Speaker 6: others may have contained traces of asbestos so in ACM.

1830
01:41:09,495 --> 01:41:11,895
Speaker 6: In which case, have you had the roof tested?

1831
01:41:12,855 --> 01:41:15,095
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, no, the roofing guys have been out

1832
01:41:15,135 --> 01:41:17,575
Speaker 9: there and taken us and I can't great did it's

1833
01:41:17,615 --> 01:41:20,495
Speaker 9: come back negative? Which is also I've had several several

1834
01:41:21,935 --> 01:41:24,095
Speaker 9: parts of the house done because I've got the white

1835
01:41:25,655 --> 01:41:28,415
Speaker 9: popcorn ceiling, which yeah, sure white is best, don't it.

1836
01:41:28,455 --> 01:41:28,775
Speaker 8: I can.

1837
01:41:29,015 --> 01:41:31,295
Speaker 9: Then of course then they said you better get your

1838
01:41:31,335 --> 01:41:32,135
Speaker 9: liner tested too.

1839
01:41:32,615 --> 01:41:32,815
Speaker 4: Yep.

1840
01:41:33,255 --> 01:41:35,495
Speaker 9: So yeah, I've been through that process a few times

1841
01:41:35,535 --> 01:41:38,375
Speaker 9: in the last year. Good on, good on you, but

1842
01:41:39,055 --> 01:41:39,895
Speaker 9: it's all good as well.

1843
01:41:40,615 --> 01:41:43,655
Speaker 6: Much appreciate it and enjoyed in you. And can I

1844
01:41:43,735 --> 01:41:46,935
Speaker 6: add in as well that sometimes you know, the removal

1845
01:41:47,015 --> 01:41:49,815
Speaker 6: of the roof allows an opportunity, perhaps just to check

1846
01:41:50,335 --> 01:41:53,615
Speaker 6: and adjust the insulation that's in there. So you know,

1847
01:41:53,775 --> 01:41:57,215
Speaker 6: often around the exterior of the building, around the perimeter

1848
01:41:57,375 --> 01:41:59,575
Speaker 6: of it, it can be a little bit tricky to

1849
01:41:59,615 --> 01:42:01,735
Speaker 6: get in there and do the insulation. So you know,

1850
01:42:01,895 --> 01:42:03,775
Speaker 6: either you jump in there or you get one of

1851
01:42:03,815 --> 01:42:05,895
Speaker 6: the guys to get in there and just have a

1852
01:42:05,935 --> 01:42:08,575
Speaker 6: look and make sure that these sufficient insulation. You could

1853
01:42:08,575 --> 01:42:10,815
Speaker 6: always top it up or that where it is there,

1854
01:42:10,895 --> 01:42:13,495
Speaker 6: that it's neatly laid and filling up all the gaps

1855
01:42:13,495 --> 01:42:16,255
Speaker 6: and so on. It's just a it's a value add right,

1856
01:42:16,335 --> 01:42:17,375
Speaker 6: you can that will give.

1857
01:42:17,255 --> 01:42:20,255
Speaker 9: You a lot of well, actually, on that note, because

1858
01:42:20,255 --> 01:42:22,695
Speaker 9: of the reason I'm getting done it because it's leaking.

1859
01:42:23,695 --> 01:42:27,175
Speaker 9: I'll bet a build or any any dead you're you're

1860
01:42:27,215 --> 01:42:30,415
Speaker 9: roof leaking, I can set on your ceiling. I mean, okay,

1861
01:42:30,495 --> 01:42:31,615
Speaker 9: that's not good. And then you went up and had

1862
01:42:31,655 --> 01:42:33,095
Speaker 9: a look any city, I can see where it's leaking.

1863
01:42:33,975 --> 01:42:37,055
Speaker 9: So if it's been leaking for a few years onto

1864
01:42:37,975 --> 01:42:41,775
Speaker 9: this got reinsulated perhaps seven six or seven years ago

1865
01:42:42,015 --> 01:42:47,295
Speaker 9: before COVID, Right, if it's been leaking, it's been water

1866
01:42:47,455 --> 01:42:49,535
Speaker 9: on it, is that going to affect the insulation.

1867
01:42:50,975 --> 01:42:53,535
Speaker 6: It depends a little bit on what type of insulation,

1868
01:42:53,655 --> 01:42:57,855
Speaker 6: it was. Different types of insulation will respond differently to

1869
01:42:57,975 --> 01:43:02,215
Speaker 6: being exposed to moisture. What you're what you're really looking

1870
01:43:02,295 --> 01:43:04,735
Speaker 6: for is has the loft gone out of it? So

1871
01:43:04,895 --> 01:43:07,575
Speaker 6: if it looks like it's compress or to be fair,

1872
01:43:07,655 --> 01:43:10,095
Speaker 6: if you touch it and it's damp, then that might

1873
01:43:10,175 --> 01:43:13,535
Speaker 6: be an opportunity to replace some of that. But in general,

1874
01:43:13,775 --> 01:43:16,255
Speaker 6: if you've put it well, no, if the insulation is

1875
01:43:16,255 --> 01:43:17,975
Speaker 6: seven or eight years old, it should still have a

1876
01:43:18,015 --> 01:43:20,495
Speaker 6: reasonable amount of loft. So ideally what you're looking for

1877
01:43:21,055 --> 01:43:22,655
Speaker 6: is you want sort of around one hundred and twenty

1878
01:43:22,735 --> 01:43:26,055
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty millimeters of insulation on top of your ceiling.

1879
01:43:26,215 --> 01:43:26,975
Speaker 6: That'll be ideal.

1880
01:43:27,215 --> 01:43:29,575
Speaker 9: If and if it's been damp and it's compressed and

1881
01:43:29,655 --> 01:43:32,375
Speaker 9: it's lost its springs bus, it's.

1882
01:43:32,295 --> 01:43:35,055
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and you may not need to replace it

1883
01:43:35,175 --> 01:43:37,015
Speaker 6: as long as it doesn't look like it's got mold

1884
01:43:37,095 --> 01:43:39,135
Speaker 6: growth and it's not damp. If it just looks like

1885
01:43:39,255 --> 01:43:41,615
Speaker 6: it's compressed, you could just add a little layer over

1886
01:43:41,655 --> 01:43:44,415
Speaker 6: the top to get you back up to that ideal thickness.

1887
01:43:45,535 --> 01:43:48,295
Speaker 9: Ah good Ideah, Okay, that's great aori mate.

1888
01:43:48,335 --> 01:43:50,135
Speaker 6: Now I've talked to you all the best take care.

1889
01:43:50,615 --> 01:43:53,695
Speaker 6: All right, yoh, we're just gone eight thirty. Let's change gear,

1890
01:43:53,775 --> 01:43:56,175
Speaker 6: let's get into the garden. A red climb past is

1891
01:43:56,535 --> 01:43:58,655
Speaker 6: on the line, ready to go. If you've got a

1892
01:43:59,015 --> 01:44:01,735
Speaker 6: question for it, call us now on eight hundred and

1893
01:44:01,775 --> 01:44:05,255
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty good measure t God.

1894
01:44:05,335 --> 01:44:08,255
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1895
01:44:08,455 --> 01:44:12,295
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