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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b Start your weekend off the

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Speaker 1: right way. Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 2: At b jod and New Zealand. Good morning and welcome

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Speaker 2: to News Talks eDV. Jack Tame with you through to

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Speaker 2: twelve o'clock today. Okay, I've had to listen. I have

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Speaker 2: had to listen to the most hyped album of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. It has chatted all sorts of streaming records

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Speaker 2: on Spotify. Taylor Swift's latest, her twelfth album, The Life

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Speaker 2: of a Showgirl, released five pm yesterday, of course New

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Speaker 2: Zealand time. At first blush, I would say, I'm a

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Speaker 2: little underwhelmed. Actually, no, I'm not underwhelmed because truth be told,

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Speaker 2: as famously open minded as I am, and you know

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Speaker 2: how open minded I am, As famously open minded as

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Speaker 2: I am, Taylor Swift's pop kind of era isn'tly my

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Speaker 2: cup of tea at the best of times. I actually,

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Speaker 2: I actually really like Taylor Swift's early albums. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: everything since Shake It Off for me has been a

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Speaker 2: bit meth so. Anyway, we aren't gonna put her album

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Speaker 2: only to my test this morning. No, No, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: we're gonna play you a couple of songs off at

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Speaker 2: given the amount of hype that's come with it, given

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Speaker 2: the amount of streams it's already boasting. Will play you

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Speaker 2: a couple of Taylor Swift tracks. Our music reviewer will

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Speaker 2: be in as well with his thoughts on the album

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Speaker 2: as a whole. But yeah, my first take is just that,

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Speaker 2: you know what, it was a it was a bit dull.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it was just a little bit kind of it

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Speaker 2: would be a bit more pumped up. Anyway, big show

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Speaker 2: with you this morning. Taylor Swift isn't the only superstar

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Speaker 2: we're focusing on. Before ten o'clock, will tell you about

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Speaker 2: the rock's latest film, The Smashing Machine. It's a little

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Speaker 2: bit different by the rock standards, you know how usually

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Speaker 2: in movies he's kind of playing like he often is

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Speaker 2: kind of in sort of comedy adjacent films. The Smashing

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Speaker 2: Machine is a drama and it kind of follows the

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Speaker 2: emotional life of a professional cage fighter. So we'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about The Smashing Machine very shortly. I think I

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Speaker 2: had about a fifteen minute standing ovation when at day

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Speaker 2: bird ortho. They all do, don't they. Yeah, we'll tell

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Speaker 2: you about that very shortly. We'll count down to the

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Speaker 2: all blacks Wallaby second letters low this evening as well.

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Speaker 2: Right now it is nine past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Ta.

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Speaker 2: In the mangle Munching forest. There's a nickel nackle tree

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Speaker 2: growing nickel nackleberries that are red as red can be.

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Speaker 2: I'll be very careful so as not to give up

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Speaker 2: the end. But would you believe it's been fifty years

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Speaker 2: since first those words were penned. That first sentence I

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Speaker 2: read you is from Linley Dodd Nickel Nackletree. So it's

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Speaker 2: a kid's counting book.

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Speaker 3: That I reckon.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a it's like a bit of

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Speaker 2: a Doctor Zusian take on New Zealand birds, right, So

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Speaker 2: it's a counting book, all these different birds sitting in

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Speaker 2: a tree. In the end, they all fall out, and

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Speaker 2: the birds are illustrated to look very much like some

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Speaker 2: a sort of Doctor Zusian twist. Anyway, The Nickel Nackletree

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Speaker 2: was first published in nineteen seventy six, So what was

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Speaker 2: I've opened The Nickel Nackletree since it was read to

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Speaker 2: the pages as we read. Linley Dodd enjoys a bit

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Speaker 2: a dragon in a wagon. Her rhyming is technically flawless.

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Speaker 2: The cadence has this kind of this kind of this

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Speaker 2: But that flow is much harder to achieve than at

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Speaker 2: first you might think. And Linley Dodd's books use such

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Speaker 2: rich language. Jumbly rapscallion skadaddled, and I'm embarrassed to say

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Speaker 2: job of all her work. Of course, Harry McCleary is

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Speaker 2: how those stories can necked with different children from different backgrounds.

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Speaker 2: So when my friends in New York had a kid

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Speaker 2: I thought Harry McClary might be a bit quaint for them,

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Speaker 2: America doesn't have dairies. But my friends and their son

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Speaker 2: their book has that wonderful, taped up, slightly tatty quality

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Speaker 2: of having been read hundreds and hundreds of times. And

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Speaker 2: They are designed to be, first of all, read aloud,

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Speaker 2: but they're also designed to be reread and reread and

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Speaker 2: reread again. And it takes a special kind of genius

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Speaker 2: its reader to say aloud that doesn't drive its reader mad?

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Speaker 2: And then think about the impact that someone like Linley

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Speaker 2: Dodter has had, like the countless moments of joy that

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Speaker 2: she sparked. Is there anyone in New Zealand who couldn't

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Speaker 2: I reckon. Children's story books are an art form for

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Speaker 2: which a lot of people grossly underestimate just how talented

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Speaker 2: the sort of thing that, ah, yeah, seems easy enough,

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Speaker 2: but it's just far more complex than most of us imagine.

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Speaker 2: And I say art form quite deliberately, because finding a

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Speaker 2: And it's taken becoming a parent for me to properly

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Speaker 2: appreciate just how talented the best of the best really are.

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Speaker 2: If the current reading habits in our household are anything

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Speaker 2: to go by, I would put Dame Linley Dodd right

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Speaker 2: haven't lost any of their magic. They delight my son

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Speaker 2: a kid, they haven't lost a sintilla of relevance or appeal.

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Speaker 2: It's funny a how quality stands the test of time.

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Speaker 2: Jackdam ninety two. Ninety two is our text number if

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Speaker 2: Our feature interview after ten o'clock This Morning is also

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Speaker 2: focusing on art for kids. Jeremy read More was the

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Speaker 2: front man for Midnight Youth, who were like one of

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Speaker 2: now traveling Europe helping out with Symphony in Europe. You

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Speaker 2: know that amazing that amazing stage show where they kind

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Speaker 2: of put distances dance music to all sorts of classics.

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Speaker 2: And now he has turned his attention to writing kids songs,

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Speaker 2: but their kids songs with a twist. So he's going

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Speaker 2: to be with us after ten o'clock to give us

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Speaker 2: a bit more detail about that. Kevin Milon is here next.

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Speaker 2: It's quarter past nine, It's Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tam

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Speaker 2: and this is news talk zed be.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Tam News Talks. V Here you go, Jack.

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Speaker 2: I worked as a children's publisher here for many years,

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Speaker 2: had the pleasure of working with Dame Linley, and you

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Speaker 2: are one hundred percent correct. Everyone thinks they can write

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Speaker 2: a children's books and they simply can't. It's an art

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Speaker 2: form that's seriously underrated. You not only have to appeal

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Speaker 2: clever enough to keep parents entertained after multiple readings. As

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you are discovering long live authors, says Vicky.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more, says Robin Slinky Milinkey Cat Flaps

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Speaker 2: has to be the absolute best. Love your work and Jack.

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Speaker 2: We have two grandchildren in France. They have the Hearing

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Speaker 2: mclary books and we read them together over FaceTime. They

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Speaker 2: have their copy, I have mine. It's absolute magic and

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Speaker 2: the first thing we will do together when they arrive

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Speaker 2: in November, says Pam. Oh, that's so nice. Pam ninety

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Speaker 2: me as well. Jacknewstalks dB dot co dot n z

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Speaker 2: our Sporto is going to be here very shortly with

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on the second Leader's low tonight in Perth.

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Speaker 2: But first up, Kevin Milmes here to kick us off

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Speaker 2: for our Saturday to get their killed.

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Speaker 5: To Kevin, Hello, Jack, you're you're an ambitious starpe Do

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Speaker 5: you deep down think that if you had the time,

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Speaker 5: you could write a pretty good children's book? I?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. I know that people overestimate their

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Speaker 2: own abilities. Right, So I have a few things that

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: For example, if I'm in the ocean, I believe that

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Speaker 2: if push came to shove, I could make it. That's

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Speaker 2: my first one. My second one. You know how they

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Speaker 2: think that men overestimate their abilities to land a commercial

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Speaker 2: jet Now. I know that seems absurd, but I still

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Speaker 5: My third single one doesn't seem Yeah, that second one

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Speaker 5: doesn't seem absurd to me in your case, but to me.

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Speaker 2: No, it's definitely absurd. There's no way we could do it.

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Speaker 2: The third one is that every time I go to

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Speaker 2: you know what, I couldn't outrun that thing, but I

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Speaker 2: could beat it in a five. It's much smaller. It's

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Speaker 2: much smaller than I was, like, you know what, a lion, yep,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, one blow and that thing's done, you know.

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Speaker 2: So those are my three really absurd things. But I

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, ha ha, could it be to write it

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Speaker 2: like a children's book that sells ten million copies worldwide?

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Speaker 2: I think it's way, way, way harder than most of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure you're right.

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Speaker 5: So, although I've always thought that if I could, it

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be easy, of course, but I think that if

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Speaker 5: I really set myself the task I'd love to do it.

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Speaker 5: I think half of it would be to find somebody

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Speaker 5: who could do great illustrations. I did find a superb art,

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Speaker 4: And I wish i'd done of course now, but.

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Speaker 2: Not too late, never too late? Why not?

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Speaker 2: Never too late. Well, look, Paul Holmes released an album,

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Speaker 2: Anyway you were, you were casting your mind forward as

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Speaker 5: I wonder at local election times how critical the photos

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Speaker 5: It was an awful trick to play, Jack, but I

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Speaker 2: share that before ten o'clock. Right now, it's twenty five

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Speaker 1: Next getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight past nine on News Talks EDB. The All

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Speaker 2: Blacks Test against the Wallabies is in Perth this evening.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Second Bleeders Low after that relatively strong performance

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Speaker 7: Night and it would have allowed the Australian Eastern seaboard,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It just feels like did anyone, like,

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Speaker 7: No, clear, clear, clearly not. The thing about this jack

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Speaker 7: until the spring Box play Argentina in London, of all places,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's five forty five pm local time, someone

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Speaker 7: Grand Final day always a big, big day for a

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Speaker 4: Much easier watch than late late at night. Totally agree.

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Speaker 2: Have you listened to Talis Swift's new album yet?

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Speaker 4: I haven't, Jack huh and I've got no.

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Speaker 7: She's extremely talented, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy the game this evening appreciate your time our

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Speaker 2: All Blacks versus the Wallabes the second Bleeder's Low from Perth.

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Speaker 2: Here on News Talks. Heed b Elliott Smith will have

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Speaker 2: the call from Perth for us this evening, Jack West

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Speaker 2: Australia doesn't have daylight saving time. No, he's talking about

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Speaker 2: the Eastern States, although Queensland doesn't have it either. I

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Speaker 2: don't think do they. She said that weird thing where

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Speaker 2: you can have New Year's Eve twice, so you can

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Speaker 2: be on the border between New South Wales and Queensland

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Speaker 2: and you can have you can have New Year's Eve

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Speaker 2: and then you can step over the border and have

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Speaker 2: it again an hour later.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five to ten, you're with Jack Tame. This is

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Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be. That's nice ey a little bit Sparks.

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Speaker 2: I recognize the voice, friend of the show Big Wronger.

445
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Speaker 2: It's called It's Like Summertime. It's a new song from her.

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Speaker 2: I think she's writing an album, producing an album. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be released relatively soon. So very nice to

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Speaker 2: get some new Kiwi music to our ears, amongst the

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Speaker 2: Taylor swift mania that has been unleashed upon the world

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Speaker 2: twenty two to ten on Newstiks, you'd be thanks to

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Speaker 2: your text, Jack. I've just sent Slinky Malinky to my

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Speaker 2: grandson in Japan, says MASSI A nice work. My favorite kids.

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Speaker 2: Lindley Dodd book was My cat likes to hide in boxes.

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Speaker 2: It has so much tape on it, says. So it's

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Speaker 2: funny how those books they sort of you they take

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Speaker 2: on another quality are when they've been they've been read

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Speaker 2: so many times and they're a bit tatty in the

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Speaker 2: corners are all kind of you know, dogg yeared and yeah,

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Speaker 2: you've got little bits of tape holding things together. It's

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Speaker 2: a real it's like a sign of love. Strangely, enough

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Speaker 2: time to get your film picks for this weekend. Francesca

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Speaker 2: Rudkin is our film reviewer. She's got two movies to

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Speaker 2: tell us about. More than a good morning. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to your thoughts on this first one, This Morning

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Speaker 2: starring The Rock. This is something a little bit different

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Speaker 2: from Dwayne Johnson. This is the Smashing Machine.

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Speaker 10: Well, have you ever heard of the Ultimate Fighting Championship

468
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Speaker 10: the UFC.

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Speaker 11: That's the bloody thing they're trying to be.

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Speaker 12: Do you hate each other when you fight?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the smashing machine. Tell us about it, Francisca.

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Speaker 12: So this is by Bennie Safti, who often works with

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Speaker 12: his brother. He's a director who is responsible for Uncut Gems,

475
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Speaker 12: which puts sort of Adam Sandler in a role, but

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Speaker 12: we didn't really kind of expect to see him in

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Speaker 12: as well.

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Speaker 6: So he's very good at kind of doing.

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Speaker 12: The unexpected a little bit in films, and this is

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Speaker 12: a sports film which does do things a little bit differently.

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Speaker 12: It's very much an observational film rather than immersive. Like

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Speaker 12: a lot of the times when we have stories about

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Speaker 12: sports people they.

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Speaker 6: Want to bring us into their lives, take us into the.

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Speaker 12: Sport and even just a lot of the time when

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Speaker 12: you're watching the fighting scenes which are really great in

487
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Speaker 12: this film, they're from outside of the ring or up above,

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Speaker 12: like we sort of almost view it like a fan

489
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Speaker 12: and really great soundtrack. Film only covers a few years

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Speaker 12: from nineteen ninety seven onwards, and it's a story of

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Speaker 12: Mark Kerr, who is not a very well known but

492
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Speaker 12: was kind of one of the first gig mma USC

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Speaker 12: fighters an American. He made this huge contribution kind of

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Speaker 12: to the sport and things. This is actually based on

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Speaker 12: a documentary about Mark Kurdit was released in two thousand

496
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Speaker 12: and two, something very very close to Dane Johnson's heart.

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Speaker 12: He'd wanted to kind of make this film and it

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Speaker 12: is a big step in a different direction for him.

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Speaker 12: This is very much a dramatic role compared to the

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Speaker 12: normal action comedy films which we see him in often.

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Speaker 12: And he's had a lot of help getting into this

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Speaker 12: character thanks to hair and makeup. They've done twenty two prosthetics.

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Speaker 12: They've kind of changed the way he looks and that's

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Speaker 12: contributed to him, how you know, sort of disappearing into

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Speaker 12: the role of it, because when you look like the Rock,

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Speaker 12: it's kind of hard to disappear. And of course he's

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Speaker 12: picked a film which is in his wheelhouse. It is

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Speaker 12: about fighting, it's about wrestling, it's kind of the world

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Speaker 12: that he's come from, and I think that that was

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Speaker 12: a really sensible move for him if he wants to

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Speaker 12: step into a dramatic role. There is a lot of

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Speaker 12: hype around this performance about this being a great performance.

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Speaker 12: Jack and I wonder whether people are a little confused

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Speaker 12: that by doing something different, they've equated that to it

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Speaker 12: being a great performance, rather than looking at the performance itself,

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Speaker 12: which is good. But I did see him acting at

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Speaker 12: times and I was just like, this is really good.

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Speaker 13: He can do this.

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Speaker 12: He absolutely has the confidence.

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Speaker 6: To do more dramatic roles.

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Speaker 12: But I'm not sure it's great anyway. Emily Blunt is

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Speaker 12: worth come and she is absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 6: It's basically the story.

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Speaker 12: This is a period of time when there aren't a

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Speaker 12: lot of regulations. The fighting is pretty brutal, the bodies

526
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Speaker 12: get beaten up quite badly. He takes some opioids to

527
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Speaker 12: prevent it, gets a bit addicted, has quite a trox

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Speaker 12: of relation with his girlfriend, and kind of comes out

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Speaker 12: the other side. Not actually a hugely complicated sports story,

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Speaker 12: It's quite a familiar sort of story. And all I

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Speaker 12: could think of when I was watching this was what

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Speaker 12: about Mark Hunt? New Zealanders. If you actually do want

533
00:28:04,493 --> 00:28:07,853
Speaker 12: an MMA, you know you receive story, then Matt the

534
00:28:07,853 --> 00:28:11,133
Speaker 12: story about New Zealand and Mark Hunt and the documentary

535
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Speaker 12: that was made The Fight of his life. Now that

536
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Speaker 12: is a story about overcoming adversity and complexities and things

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Speaker 12: like that, and that was just always in the back

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Speaker 12: of my mind.

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Speaker 6: So look, yep, it's really good.

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Speaker 14: I think.

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Speaker 12: You know, I'm not a huge usc MMA fan. I'm

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Speaker 12: not really interested watching men smack each other in the

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Speaker 12: face and head repeatedly. So you know, I went out

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Speaker 12: of curiosity to see these people in these roles.

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Speaker 6: I think if you're probably interested.

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Speaker 12: In the sport, that it might hold a little bit

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Speaker 12: more appeal.

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Speaker 2: Fair enough. Yeah, no, that's that's two of us on

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00:28:42,093 --> 00:28:45,493
Speaker 2: that front. That's the Slashing Machine starring the Rock. It

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Speaker 2: does look at the very least looks interesting, and you

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00:28:47,573 --> 00:28:51,093
Speaker 2: know what, that's good. I thought Uncut Gems was just

552
00:28:51,133 --> 00:28:54,053
Speaker 2: like one of the best films of the last few years.

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00:28:54,093 --> 00:28:56,373
Speaker 2: So he really difficult to watch. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: watch that just before you got to be because it's

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Speaker 2: st of like, oh I feel really anxious. Great, we've

556
00:28:59,773 --> 00:29:02,813
Speaker 2: got the film for you. But this is a bit slower.

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Speaker 12: Yeah nice, Yeah, no, I love the way it's been made.

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Speaker 6: It's good.

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00:29:07,333 --> 00:29:09,773
Speaker 2: It's good, very good. So that's the Smashing Machine that's

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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas right now. Something completely different. The teacher

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Speaker 2: who promised the sea.

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Speaker 10: See.

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Speaker 12: This is a Spanish film and it's based on a

564
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Speaker 12: true story and it kicks off in the present when

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00:29:19,773 --> 00:29:23,493
Speaker 12: a mass grave is discovered from the Spanish Civil War.

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Speaker 12: It's unearthed, and there is a woman who has been

567
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Speaker 12: trying to find her great grandfather for her grandfather who

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Speaker 12: is not doing so well, and so she's sort of

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Speaker 12: been on this mission to try and find what happened

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Speaker 12: to him and how he went missing during the war,

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Speaker 12: and he's thought to be in this area. So she's

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Speaker 12: contacted by the team who have unearthed this mass grave,

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Speaker 12: and she's brought down to the area and she starts

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Speaker 12: to meet locals who can remember her grandfather. And also

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Speaker 12: this teacher who came to their small village and took

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Speaker 12: him in and looked after him because his father had

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Speaker 12: been taken. And so we sort of learn about this

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Speaker 12: gorgeous man, this teacher who wanted his children to be

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Speaker 12: wanted his students to be curious, and he wanted them

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Speaker 12: to be children in this very difficult time, you know,

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Speaker 12: instead of going working on farms, he wanted them to

582
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Speaker 12: to to learn and things. And but he was very

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Speaker 12: outspoken about the right wing regime. So look, this is

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Speaker 12: a It's one of those sort of bit of sweet

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Speaker 12: stories because it's really beautiful and it reflects the country

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Speaker 12: coming to grips with its past. I mean, there are

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Speaker 12: a lot of people all over Spain who are still

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Speaker 12: trying to work out what happened to their loved ones.

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Speaker 12: But there it's also got this very respectful it's solemn

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Speaker 12: and it's got a sadness to it, but it is

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Speaker 12: also lovely to see this impact, how this impact actually

592
00:30:46,693 --> 00:30:49,893
Speaker 12: lingered on the students. And it's interesting some will do

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Speaker 12: not want to hold onto those memories because of guilt

594
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Speaker 12: and other issues. Other people celebrate and remember him for

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Speaker 12: who he was. So pretty fascinating, that lovely little story.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, well, you certainly give us a range this morning.

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00:31:02,333 --> 00:31:06,373
Speaker 2: So that's the teacher who promised the Sea that's showing

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Speaker 2: in cinemas too. That's a Spanish film, and The Smashing

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00:31:09,693 --> 00:31:12,053
Speaker 2: Machine is the one starring the Rock. All of the

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Speaker 2: details for those movies will be up on the News

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Speaker 2: talks 'b website. We're back in a couple of minutes.

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00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:18,853
Speaker 2: Our cook's here with her recipe for the week. It's

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Speaker 2: mushroom canaloney. Quarter to ten on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend news talks EDB.

606
00:31:29,093 --> 00:31:31,733
Speaker 2: Food time on News Talks EDB cook is neck, he works.

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00:31:31,773 --> 00:31:35,733
Speaker 2: She's here with her recipe for the Weeklder cured a Jack.

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Speaker 11: Yes, an't you from Danedin?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course, por Charmers right, I'm still your por charmer.

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Speaker 11: Seafood Festival. Still it'll be great, Yeah, it'll be great.

612
00:31:44,613 --> 00:31:46,893
Speaker 11: But also talking to you not about seafood Day, about

613
00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:49,733
Speaker 11: I don't know if you realize that October is officially

614
00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:51,493
Speaker 11: the World Vegetarian.

615
00:31:51,053 --> 00:31:54,333
Speaker 2: Day, should time I would be lying if I put

616
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Speaker 2: it on my calendar, which is not that I have

617
00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:59,613
Speaker 2: any problem with vegetarian more for it, you do you,

618
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Speaker 2: but I just yeah, you know my thing, I've seen

619
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Speaker 2: it to you before. There's there's a day, a week,

620
00:32:04,413 --> 00:32:07,413
Speaker 2: a month, a thing for everything, you know.

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Speaker 11: I know, And the best made of you that I

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Speaker 11: think is just that it might give you some encouragement

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Speaker 11: to go, Yeah, you know what I've been meaning to

624
00:32:14,293 --> 00:32:17,253
Speaker 11: be to eat more vegetables in my life, you know,

625
00:32:17,493 --> 00:32:19,613
Speaker 11: And so this is a good time to try it.

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00:32:19,733 --> 00:32:20,773
Speaker 15: Try it for a week, try it for.

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Speaker 11: A months, see what you think. You know, yeah, and

628
00:32:24,293 --> 00:32:27,533
Speaker 11: so this is a mushroom and spinach canaloni. Because I

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Speaker 11: also think when the price of living is sky high

630
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Speaker 11: and people are rightfully so about that, you know, taking

631
00:32:35,093 --> 00:32:38,733
Speaker 11: some of those meat proteins out of your diet can

632
00:32:38,853 --> 00:32:41,853
Speaker 11: really reduce the food shopping bills. So those of you

633
00:32:41,973 --> 00:32:45,893
Speaker 11: listening who perhaps are thinking, you know, you go along

634
00:32:45,893 --> 00:32:48,013
Speaker 11: to the supermarket and you stock up on your chicken,

635
00:32:48,093 --> 00:32:50,893
Speaker 11: and you're this, and you're that, maybe just crazily try

636
00:32:51,173 --> 00:32:53,853
Speaker 11: leaving all of those things out of your trolley for

637
00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:58,253
Speaker 11: one week and instead popping in things like some cans

638
00:32:58,293 --> 00:33:01,613
Speaker 11: of beans, which can be delicious, and lentils and mushrooms.

639
00:33:01,653 --> 00:33:03,293
Speaker 11: They don't have much protein in them, but there you go,

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00:33:03,973 --> 00:33:07,533
Speaker 11: and some grains and make this really beautiful. It's loaded,

641
00:33:07,573 --> 00:33:09,653
Speaker 11: it's cheesy, it's yummy, and you'll be surprised how cheap

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Speaker 11: your bill is. Look oven goes on one eighty degrees.

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Speaker 11: Are this is for one I am this is one serving.

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Speaker 15: Double it if you want.

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00:33:17,213 --> 00:33:19,613
Speaker 11: It's a generous serving. But it's just if you're out

646
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Speaker 11: there thinking, yeah, I need to mix things up a

647
00:33:21,373 --> 00:33:24,693
Speaker 11: little bit. Grease are a small ovenproof dish that will

648
00:33:24,733 --> 00:33:28,133
Speaker 11: fit to your lovely little canaloney. And here I am

649
00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:32,413
Speaker 11: using four pasta tubes, four canaloni tubes. So make the

650
00:33:32,493 --> 00:33:36,173
Speaker 11: filling by heating some oil in a pan and cooking

651
00:33:36,253 --> 00:33:38,613
Speaker 11: off the onions. I've got a small onion here, dice,

652
00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:42,293
Speaker 11: and one large portobello mushroom because they go a long way.

653
00:33:42,653 --> 00:33:45,653
Speaker 11: Chop those off roughly but kind of finely, and fry

654
00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:47,253
Speaker 11: that off on the oil. And they to take a

655
00:33:47,293 --> 00:33:49,733
Speaker 11: little while, three to four minutes something like that. Mushroom

656
00:33:49,773 --> 00:33:51,893
Speaker 11: is what happens when you cook them as they release

657
00:33:51,973 --> 00:33:53,893
Speaker 11: their juices and then they soak them back up. So

658
00:33:53,973 --> 00:33:56,613
Speaker 11: wait till that's happened. Pour in half a can of

659
00:33:56,653 --> 00:34:00,453
Speaker 11: crushed tomatoes or fresh tomatoes, and season half a teaspoon

660
00:34:00,493 --> 00:34:03,293
Speaker 11: of dried thyme, half a can of lentils.

661
00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:03,893
Speaker 2: And before you.

662
00:34:03,933 --> 00:34:07,933
Speaker 11: Start groaning and going, oh lens, lentils are great. They

663
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:10,533
Speaker 11: in a dish like this, they really do the job

664
00:34:10,613 --> 00:34:13,093
Speaker 11: of say, minced beef or minced dam. They give that

665
00:34:13,173 --> 00:34:15,013
Speaker 11: same text to their great I love them and packed

666
00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:18,333
Speaker 11: full of protein and goodness. And so pop those into

667
00:34:18,373 --> 00:34:22,053
Speaker 11: the pan. Pop in one cup of shredded spinach. So

668
00:34:22,173 --> 00:34:25,253
Speaker 11: there's your iron, some of your iron. Cover it until

669
00:34:25,293 --> 00:34:27,373
Speaker 11: the spinach is wilted, and then remove from the heat

670
00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:28,893
Speaker 11: and it we'll have all thickened up a little bit

671
00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:30,933
Speaker 11: by that stage. And then what I do to fill

672
00:34:31,013 --> 00:34:33,613
Speaker 11: my little canaloni is, rather than trying to sort of

673
00:34:33,733 --> 00:34:36,453
Speaker 11: spoon it into them, I kind of stamp my tubes

674
00:34:37,253 --> 00:34:40,333
Speaker 11: into the filling so that it fills up to halfway

675
00:34:40,413 --> 00:34:42,253
Speaker 11: one end. Flip it over do it the other end,

676
00:34:42,293 --> 00:34:44,573
Speaker 11: so and it's kind of fun. Fill both ends right

677
00:34:44,613 --> 00:34:47,613
Speaker 11: to the middle. Lay those tubes in your lovely prepared dish,

678
00:34:47,733 --> 00:34:51,653
Speaker 11: and then loosen the left over filling with a splash

679
00:34:51,733 --> 00:34:53,933
Speaker 11: or two of water and pour that around your canaloney

680
00:34:53,973 --> 00:34:57,773
Speaker 11: as well. And then no cheese sauce required, because honestly,

681
00:34:57,853 --> 00:34:59,853
Speaker 11: that's a ball to make from scratch. So I instead

682
00:35:00,013 --> 00:35:02,293
Speaker 11: use a third of a cup of cream fresh, third

683
00:35:02,293 --> 00:35:04,093
Speaker 11: of a cup of liquid stock, and a third of

684
00:35:04,133 --> 00:35:07,373
Speaker 11: a cup of grated cheese. So we're talking, oh beautiful,

685
00:35:07,373 --> 00:35:10,733
Speaker 11: delicious cheesiness. Whisk that up, Pour that over your pasta

686
00:35:10,973 --> 00:35:12,773
Speaker 11: your pasta tubes, cover it with foil, bake it for

687
00:35:12,813 --> 00:35:16,493
Speaker 11: about thirty minutes. Jack that'll soften and cook those that canalone.

688
00:35:16,893 --> 00:35:19,493
Speaker 11: Uncover it. Sprinkle over a little bit more cheese possibly

689
00:35:19,653 --> 00:35:21,453
Speaker 11: or not, and cook it for a further ten to

690
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:25,133
Speaker 11: fifteen minutes and it'll be golden and bubbling, the pasta

691
00:35:25,213 --> 00:35:27,653
Speaker 11: will be tender, that filling will be piping hot, and

692
00:35:27,733 --> 00:35:31,813
Speaker 11: it's absolutely satisfying and delicious. So that's you know, because

693
00:35:31,853 --> 00:35:34,973
Speaker 11: I one of the common questions I get from people is,

694
00:35:35,973 --> 00:35:37,893
Speaker 11: you know it really is, Oh my goodness. You know,

695
00:35:38,613 --> 00:35:40,453
Speaker 11: I'd like to do a bit more plant based eating,

696
00:35:40,533 --> 00:35:41,013
Speaker 11: but I don't know.

697
00:35:41,053 --> 00:35:41,373
Speaker 3: What to do.

698
00:35:41,493 --> 00:35:45,413
Speaker 11: And I'm I'm really a fan of still eating whole food,

699
00:35:45,613 --> 00:35:48,053
Speaker 11: so you know, I know there's a lot of sort

700
00:35:48,053 --> 00:35:49,933
Speaker 11: of meat substitutes.

701
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:50,173
Speaker 10: In these days.

702
00:35:51,013 --> 00:35:54,053
Speaker 11: To me, that's just it's a lot of processed food.

703
00:35:54,173 --> 00:35:57,653
Speaker 11: So stick to the whole foods, sticking vegetables. You'll be

704
00:35:57,893 --> 00:35:59,853
Speaker 11: you know, you'll be helping your insides.

705
00:36:00,053 --> 00:36:00,533
Speaker 16: No end.

706
00:36:01,093 --> 00:36:04,893
Speaker 11: Colon cancer is on the rise, and that is probably

707
00:36:05,253 --> 00:36:08,213
Speaker 11: largely due to a reduction in the amount of fiber

708
00:36:08,293 --> 00:36:12,453
Speaker 11: that we're all eating. And fiber comes in terms of beans, vegetables,

709
00:36:14,013 --> 00:36:16,093
Speaker 11: some good grains and that kind of thing, lentol. So

710
00:36:16,373 --> 00:36:17,413
Speaker 11: get into it, you'll love it.

711
00:36:17,693 --> 00:36:19,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. So what we do in our

712
00:36:19,653 --> 00:36:21,933
Speaker 2: house is we we're just trying to have a couple

713
00:36:21,973 --> 00:36:25,533
Speaker 2: of days a week without meat, and we're not really like,

714
00:36:25,773 --> 00:36:28,333
Speaker 2: you know, like super strict about it. If we end

715
00:36:28,413 --> 00:36:29,813
Speaker 2: up having meat, it's not the end of the world.

716
00:36:29,853 --> 00:36:31,253
Speaker 2: But you know, like like the last night we had

717
00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:33,053
Speaker 2: dahl and I made you know, we had a couple

718
00:36:33,053 --> 00:36:35,013
Speaker 2: of rota and things and we sell it, you know,

719
00:36:35,133 --> 00:36:37,373
Speaker 2: like you do that, but then you have whatever, you

720
00:36:37,493 --> 00:36:40,973
Speaker 2: have pork bones tonight before you know, it's all about balance,

721
00:36:41,013 --> 00:36:42,133
Speaker 2: and it's all about balance.

722
00:36:42,413 --> 00:36:45,133
Speaker 11: It's all about balance. It is absolutely all about balance.

723
00:36:45,213 --> 00:36:47,453
Speaker 11: And you know my recommendation if you're serving us up

724
00:36:47,493 --> 00:36:50,253
Speaker 11: to somebody who doesn't, just don't mention the word vegetaria.

725
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:50,493
Speaker 1: Yeah.

726
00:36:50,573 --> 00:36:52,413
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's so we're having canaloney tonight.

727
00:36:52,533 --> 00:36:55,533
Speaker 2: They have beautiful Okay, Hey, thank you so much. Enjoy

728
00:36:55,613 --> 00:36:57,773
Speaker 2: being in Port Charmers. We'll catch you again next Saturday morning.

729
00:36:57,853 --> 00:37:01,173
Speaker 2: Nikki's mushroom canaloney recipe will be at Newstalks be dot

730
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Speaker 2: co dot nz Ford slash Jack so you'll be able

731
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:07,293
Speaker 2: to be able to make a at home as well.

732
00:37:07,653 --> 00:37:08,813
Speaker 2: Right now, it's seven to ten.

733
00:37:09,253 --> 00:37:12,053
Speaker 1: Using you the inside scoop on the ball you need

734
00:37:12,093 --> 00:37:15,773
Speaker 1: to know On Saturday Morning with Jack dam News Talks

735
00:37:15,773 --> 00:37:16,733
Speaker 1: at the OH.

736
00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:19,773
Speaker 2: I've been a sad news out of the UK this morning.

737
00:37:19,893 --> 00:37:24,173
Speaker 2: Dame Patricia Rutledge has died aged ninety six. You will

738
00:37:24,253 --> 00:37:28,693
Speaker 2: know her as Hyacinth Bucket or Hyacinth Bouquet. I feel

739
00:37:28,693 --> 00:37:31,213
Speaker 2: like I grew up with keeping up appearances on at

740
00:37:31,253 --> 00:37:35,453
Speaker 2: our Place, you know, that amazing British sitcom early nineties,

741
00:37:36,533 --> 00:37:40,853
Speaker 2: and she was, of course Hyacinth, the main protagonist, the

742
00:37:41,213 --> 00:37:47,093
Speaker 2: snobbish Hyacinth Bouquet. She liked to pronounce it Onslow. Was

743
00:37:47,133 --> 00:37:49,333
Speaker 2: the great character in that show, wasn't it Onslow? Anyway?

744
00:37:49,373 --> 00:37:52,813
Speaker 2: Our Dame Patricia Rutledge was ninety six. Her agency this

745
00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:54,893
Speaker 2: morning were deeply saving to confirm the passing of Dame

746
00:37:54,933 --> 00:37:58,133
Speaker 2: Patricia Rutlig, who died peacefully in her sleep, surrounded by love.

747
00:37:58,453 --> 00:38:01,013
Speaker 2: Her passion for her work and connecting with live audiences

748
00:38:01,133 --> 00:38:04,693
Speaker 2: never waned, just as new generations of audiences have continued

749
00:38:04,733 --> 00:38:07,933
Speaker 2: to find her through her beloved television roles. So that's

750
00:38:07,933 --> 00:38:10,253
Speaker 2: a nice comment. After ten o'clock this morning, we're going

751
00:38:10,293 --> 00:38:13,413
Speaker 2: to tell you about some slightly more modern shows. Three

752
00:38:13,573 --> 00:38:17,373
Speaker 2: fantastic shows to recommend in our screen Time segment, including

753
00:38:17,653 --> 00:38:21,613
Speaker 2: this new documentary about Billy Joel. It sounds really interesting,

754
00:38:21,693 --> 00:38:23,533
Speaker 2: quite intimate, so we'll give you the details on that

755
00:38:24,253 --> 00:38:27,253
Speaker 2: very shortly as well as that our feature interview. The

756
00:38:27,373 --> 00:38:30,293
Speaker 2: former front man of Midnight Youth, Jeremy read Moore, has

757
00:38:30,373 --> 00:38:34,373
Speaker 2: built his own very successful solo career, but now he's

758
00:38:34,413 --> 00:38:38,053
Speaker 2: turning his attention to kids music. It is very different

759
00:38:38,613 --> 00:38:41,213
Speaker 2: but also a little bit scientific. So Jeremy is going

760
00:38:41,253 --> 00:38:43,573
Speaker 2: to join us right after the ten o'clock news News

761
00:38:43,693 --> 00:38:46,413
Speaker 2: is next. Though it's almost ten o'clock, it's Saturday morning.

762
00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:48,613
Speaker 2: I'm Jack dam and this is News Talk Zed.

763
00:38:48,573 --> 00:38:57,573
Speaker 1: Be cracking way to start his Saturday Saturday morning with

764
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Speaker 1: Jack Tam News Talk ZEDV.

765
00:39:08,973 --> 00:39:10,173
Speaker 10: Feeling Blue.

766
00:39:12,613 --> 00:39:13,613
Speaker 3: Us one thing.

767
00:39:16,133 --> 00:39:17,053
Speaker 10: You can too.

768
00:39:19,373 --> 00:39:23,773
Speaker 17: Just move, Just move.

769
00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:35,533
Speaker 2: Feeling dag that is just moved and I get it.

770
00:39:37,093 --> 00:39:41,093
Speaker 2: The beat, the rhythm, the style, the call and answer

771
00:39:41,253 --> 00:39:44,173
Speaker 2: might throw you off, but you probably know Jeremy read

772
00:39:44,213 --> 00:39:48,853
Speaker 2: More from the rock band Midnight Youth. Jeremy had a

773
00:39:48,893 --> 00:39:50,893
Speaker 2: great time with Midnight Youth, had a great time as

774
00:39:50,933 --> 00:39:52,853
Speaker 2: a solo artist, but now is going through a bit

775
00:39:52,893 --> 00:39:56,813
Speaker 2: of a creative evolution, turning his attention to children's music.

776
00:39:56,933 --> 00:40:02,013
Speaker 2: But this is not sugar rush pop with cartoon voices. No, no,

777
00:40:02,213 --> 00:40:04,493
Speaker 2: we are all going to be spared the Crazy Frog.

778
00:40:05,173 --> 00:40:08,893
Speaker 2: It's music that has narrative and it is surprisingly emotional.

779
00:40:09,133 --> 00:40:10,813
Speaker 2: Jeremy read Moore's with us this morning.

780
00:40:10,653 --> 00:40:13,933
Speaker 18: Killed a good morning, mordaner Jack, How are you ah

781
00:40:14,173 --> 00:40:14,573
Speaker 18: so good?

782
00:40:14,613 --> 00:40:14,853
Speaker 3: Thanks?

783
00:40:14,933 --> 00:40:16,613
Speaker 2: Not as good as you though we have pulled you

784
00:40:16,733 --> 00:40:19,373
Speaker 2: out of a dive bar. And Budapest this morning, of

785
00:40:19,453 --> 00:40:20,813
Speaker 2: all places, paid us a picture.

786
00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:24,533
Speaker 17: It's the Dives of all Divius Bars.

787
00:40:24,973 --> 00:40:29,453
Speaker 9: It's probably about about seven dive bars rolled into one

788
00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:33,573
Speaker 9: in the middle of Budapest. And I was thoroughly distracted

789
00:40:33,613 --> 00:40:36,293
Speaker 9: by I mean every inch of every wall is covered

790
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:41,013
Speaker 9: in graffiti of all kinds of offensive things, so it's

791
00:40:41,933 --> 00:40:42,773
Speaker 9: it was very distracting.

792
00:40:42,893 --> 00:40:44,653
Speaker 2: No, that's good. Is it one of those places where

793
00:40:44,773 --> 00:40:47,333
Speaker 2: that you can't touch any surface because it's so sticky

794
00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:51,253
Speaker 2: and like unclean and unhygienic that if you, if you like,

795
00:40:51,613 --> 00:40:53,653
Speaker 2: put your hand down, you'll never be able to peel

796
00:40:53,693 --> 00:40:54,733
Speaker 2: it off the bar itself.

797
00:40:56,373 --> 00:40:57,213
Speaker 3: Well, let's be.

798
00:40:57,293 --> 00:40:57,813
Speaker 18: Fair to them.

799
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Speaker 9: I mean I think psychologically, yes, physically, it's less sicky

800
00:41:02,373 --> 00:41:03,173
Speaker 9: than I would have expected.

801
00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:06,093
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that sounds great. Well, I'm deeply envious this

802
00:41:06,173 --> 00:41:10,133
Speaker 2: morn and it is quite a transition from your latest

803
00:41:10,173 --> 00:41:13,293
Speaker 2: body of work, which is itself quite a transition from

804
00:41:13,293 --> 00:41:15,293
Speaker 2: what you've been doing. I mean, this is this is

805
00:41:15,413 --> 00:41:18,453
Speaker 2: really something quite different. So tell us what got you

806
00:41:18,613 --> 00:41:19,973
Speaker 2: into writing kids music?

807
00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:23,773
Speaker 18: I mean, long story, short.

808
00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:28,413
Speaker 9: COVID in a way, because I was already writing a

809
00:41:28,613 --> 00:41:32,613
Speaker 9: picture book about the superpowers that can be found in singing. Basically,

810
00:41:32,973 --> 00:41:37,053
Speaker 9: you know how kids can find a sense of identity

811
00:41:37,413 --> 00:41:40,893
Speaker 9: through singing and the energy that goes into sort of

812
00:41:41,093 --> 00:41:42,813
Speaker 9: projecting yourself as a singer.

813
00:41:42,653 --> 00:41:45,053
Speaker 18: Which is the story of my adult life.

814
00:41:46,413 --> 00:41:49,333
Speaker 9: So I wrote this picture book released that there was

815
00:41:49,333 --> 00:41:51,133
Speaker 9: a song about singing, a book about singing, so I

816
00:41:51,173 --> 00:41:51,773
Speaker 9: had to have a song.

817
00:41:51,853 --> 00:41:55,413
Speaker 18: I did the song, and I really enjoyed releasing kids music.

818
00:41:56,293 --> 00:41:58,133
Speaker 9: But then as part of the promotion, I kind of

819
00:41:58,213 --> 00:42:02,093
Speaker 9: started looking into the science behind singing and going, hang on,

820
00:42:02,453 --> 00:42:04,613
Speaker 9: is it just me that thinks this is a superpower

821
00:42:05,213 --> 00:42:07,733
Speaker 9: or is there more to this? And I started looking

822
00:42:07,773 --> 00:42:11,493
Speaker 9: into all of this very thorough research from all around

823
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:14,413
Speaker 9: the world, and it turns out there's all of this

824
00:42:14,493 --> 00:42:17,293
Speaker 9: amazing stuff that happens when kids sing and adults sing

825
00:42:17,373 --> 00:42:20,053
Speaker 9: as well, but especially when people sing in groups. And

826
00:42:20,213 --> 00:42:23,493
Speaker 9: so I had the opportunity to record an album of songs,

827
00:42:23,533 --> 00:42:27,333
Speaker 9: and I thought, hey, look, let's make this really intentional

828
00:42:28,573 --> 00:42:34,533
Speaker 9: and create songs with music videos that really allow kids

829
00:42:34,613 --> 00:42:40,253
Speaker 9: to easily sing with these songs, and preferably sing in groups,

830
00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:43,293
Speaker 9: because that's actually where so much of the magic happens.

831
00:42:44,173 --> 00:42:46,773
Speaker 9: And you know, if you look back into in culture

832
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:49,933
Speaker 9: for thousands of years, group singing is this magic thing.

833
00:42:50,573 --> 00:42:53,373
Speaker 2: It is so yeah, I think like I even think

834
00:42:53,453 --> 00:42:56,453
Speaker 2: back to like, you know, I was. This is not

835
00:42:56,493 --> 00:42:58,293
Speaker 2: going to come as a huge shock to many people,

836
00:42:58,333 --> 00:43:00,573
Speaker 2: but I was a bit of a theater kid at school.

837
00:43:00,653 --> 00:43:02,493
Speaker 2: I was a bit of a music kid. I may

838
00:43:02,613 --> 00:43:07,133
Speaker 2: have even competed in various barbershop competitions over the years.

839
00:43:07,213 --> 00:43:09,413
Speaker 2: But there is there's something, you know what it is

840
00:43:09,653 --> 00:43:12,653
Speaker 2: that there's something kind of primal about it, strangely about

841
00:43:12,973 --> 00:43:15,813
Speaker 2: you know, us being social beings, right, there is something

842
00:43:16,693 --> 00:43:19,973
Speaker 2: about using our voices together, especially in harmony or something

843
00:43:20,053 --> 00:43:23,253
Speaker 2: like that, that triggers something deep inside us.

844
00:43:24,453 --> 00:43:28,493
Speaker 9: That's right, human ritual religion. It goes back thousands of

845
00:43:28,573 --> 00:43:31,893
Speaker 9: years people chanting and singing together. And what happens is

846
00:43:32,013 --> 00:43:35,653
Speaker 9: the science is showing that brain activity synchronizes and when

847
00:43:35,693 --> 00:43:39,133
Speaker 9: that happens. We almost feel like we're a super organism.

848
00:43:39,213 --> 00:43:42,573
Speaker 9: We're one super organism, and so that creates the sense

849
00:43:42,653 --> 00:43:46,093
Speaker 9: of connection. And that is what those groups were tapping

850
00:43:46,133 --> 00:43:50,653
Speaker 9: into and what we can if we intentionally create the situation.

851
00:43:51,013 --> 00:43:52,813
Speaker 18: We can tap into that situation for kids.

852
00:43:52,853 --> 00:43:56,013
Speaker 9: And when I think about a classroom of young kids

853
00:43:56,053 --> 00:43:58,053
Speaker 9: and all the little cliques and the you know, the

854
00:43:58,133 --> 00:44:01,333
Speaker 9: cool kids, the nerdy kids, the outcasts, if they can

855
00:44:01,453 --> 00:44:06,173
Speaker 9: have three to six minutes of feeling connected in a day,

856
00:44:07,773 --> 00:44:09,413
Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's magic, right.

857
00:44:09,413 --> 00:44:13,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So just Move is your first single

858
00:44:14,093 --> 00:44:17,853
Speaker 2: from sing Along the Size? Tell us, Yes, tell us

859
00:44:17,893 --> 00:44:21,733
Speaker 2: about the difference given you've I mean you've you've written

860
00:44:21,773 --> 00:44:25,173
Speaker 2: as part of Midnight Youth, You've written stuff for your

861
00:44:25,213 --> 00:44:27,813
Speaker 2: solo work. But how different is it to go about

862
00:44:27,893 --> 00:44:31,533
Speaker 2: purposefully writing a song for children? Do you have fewer

863
00:44:31,653 --> 00:44:33,133
Speaker 2: minor chords? Like, how does it?

864
00:44:33,293 --> 00:44:33,413
Speaker 3: You know?

865
00:44:33,533 --> 00:44:37,493
Speaker 2: Fewer diminished chords? Is everything in the key of A

866
00:44:37,653 --> 00:44:38,453
Speaker 2: and nice and sonny?

867
00:44:40,053 --> 00:44:43,413
Speaker 9: Well, the key does come into it because it's have

868
00:44:43,613 --> 00:44:47,173
Speaker 9: very high voices. So this album has me singing very

869
00:44:47,253 --> 00:44:50,693
Speaker 9: high because I want them to be able to sing

870
00:44:50,773 --> 00:44:53,933
Speaker 9: along easily. So there is actually a sort of window

871
00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:58,533
Speaker 9: of a key that you have to stick to for

872
00:44:58,653 --> 00:45:01,053
Speaker 9: kids to be able to broadly sing along with these songs.

873
00:45:01,373 --> 00:45:05,693
Speaker 9: But otherwise, you know, it's about for me, they're just

874
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:08,453
Speaker 9: pop songs. Yeah, So I've brought in my experience as

875
00:45:08,493 --> 00:45:12,533
Speaker 9: a songwriter to creating pop songs. The thing that's different

876
00:45:12,653 --> 00:45:16,973
Speaker 9: is I want these songs to be very, very interactive,

877
00:45:17,013 --> 00:45:19,613
Speaker 9: So they're interactive in the music recording, but interactive also

878
00:45:19,693 --> 00:45:21,693
Speaker 9: in the music video and the recording.

879
00:45:21,773 --> 00:45:23,853
Speaker 18: It's all about the sing along part.

880
00:45:23,973 --> 00:45:29,093
Speaker 9: So almost every singing section is call and response, So

881
00:45:29,213 --> 00:45:31,293
Speaker 9: I sing you think of that for that Freddie Mercury

882
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:35,453
Speaker 9: at Live Aid, you know, yeah, and the crowd goes

883
00:45:35,453 --> 00:45:36,133
Speaker 9: back and forth.

884
00:45:35,933 --> 00:45:38,813
Speaker 18: And it's an incredible moment. I wanted that within the song.

885
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:43,133
Speaker 9: And then the extra thing is the music videos feature

886
00:45:43,333 --> 00:45:46,373
Speaker 9: a stop motion puppet called Milo who's a kind of

887
00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:52,093
Speaker 9: a Marsupi or mousey little character, and they do physical

888
00:45:52,213 --> 00:45:57,253
Speaker 9: actions hopping, skipping, eating peanut butter, these things that kids

889
00:45:57,293 --> 00:46:00,773
Speaker 9: can all again do in unison as a movement in

890
00:46:00,973 --> 00:46:03,933
Speaker 9: non singing parts. So the songs are structured. We all

891
00:46:03,973 --> 00:46:10,133
Speaker 9: sing together, then we move together, and it's all to

892
00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:13,973
Speaker 9: try and pack in as much of that synchrony as possible.

893
00:46:14,213 --> 00:46:15,173
Speaker 19: Yeah, that makes a.

894
00:46:15,173 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 2: Lot of sense. So do you like, do you see

895
00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:22,693
Speaker 2: this sing along size being performed in schools and that

896
00:46:22,853 --> 00:46:24,253
Speaker 2: kind of thing, like, is that is that we you're

897
00:46:24,373 --> 00:46:24,933
Speaker 2: envisaging this?

898
00:46:26,053 --> 00:46:28,133
Speaker 9: Absolutely, I want teachers to be able to put this

899
00:46:28,253 --> 00:46:30,733
Speaker 9: on to start the day or as a brain break,

900
00:46:31,293 --> 00:46:34,013
Speaker 9: or and as well families. You know, maybe maybe you've

901
00:46:34,093 --> 00:46:37,613
Speaker 9: just noticed the kids have just just zoned out for

902
00:46:37,693 --> 00:46:39,773
Speaker 9: a few hours and you're like, hey, well, what's something

903
00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:42,573
Speaker 9: that we can put on to get them energized. And

904
00:46:42,893 --> 00:46:44,973
Speaker 9: it's a screen, so it's it's you know, it's yeah,

905
00:46:45,253 --> 00:46:47,733
Speaker 9: it's attractive for a kid, but it's healthy screen time

906
00:46:47,853 --> 00:46:51,533
Speaker 9: because they're expressing themselves, they're singing, they're moving, they're getting

907
00:46:51,533 --> 00:46:54,173
Speaker 9: a bit of health along with just having some fun.

908
00:46:54,653 --> 00:46:55,453
Speaker 18: So that's the idea.

909
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,653
Speaker 9: And definitely I'm taking it to a whole bunch of

910
00:46:58,693 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 9: schools in the Upper North Island next month and.

911
00:47:04,573 --> 00:47:06,573
Speaker 18: And I'm really looking forward to hundreds of kids doing

912
00:47:06,613 --> 00:47:07,893
Speaker 18: this all together. It be amazing.

913
00:47:07,933 --> 00:47:10,093
Speaker 2: That's a great idea. So do you remember, like when

914
00:47:10,093 --> 00:47:11,733
Speaker 2: you were at school, do you remember what songs they

915
00:47:11,813 --> 00:47:13,093
Speaker 2: used to sing when you're at school?

916
00:47:14,653 --> 00:47:17,013
Speaker 18: I do because they were all church songs.

917
00:47:17,053 --> 00:47:20,533
Speaker 9: I went to a Catholic primary school and we would

918
00:47:20,573 --> 00:47:25,253
Speaker 9: all sing the same songs every every week. And I

919
00:47:25,373 --> 00:47:29,253
Speaker 9: do remember bonding with my friends while singing those songs,

920
00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:32,093
Speaker 9: even if we were joking around during them. There's something

921
00:47:32,173 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 9: about it, and you know I've written about it. Even

922
00:47:36,053 --> 00:47:37,493
Speaker 9: you go to an all Blacks game and you and

923
00:47:37,573 --> 00:47:40,733
Speaker 9: you sing the anthem and you look around you and

924
00:47:40,893 --> 00:47:45,133
Speaker 9: for those for those four minutes, you're all just feel

925
00:47:45,333 --> 00:47:50,173
Speaker 9: this this pride and this connection and then you see

926
00:47:50,213 --> 00:47:52,693
Speaker 9: the ultimate, the ultimate version of it, which is the huker,

927
00:47:52,773 --> 00:47:54,773
Speaker 9: which is singing and moving together.

928
00:47:55,173 --> 00:47:57,253
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a very good point version of what I'm

929
00:47:57,253 --> 00:47:57,733
Speaker 18: talking about.

930
00:47:57,853 --> 00:47:58,053
Speaker 4: Yeah.

931
00:47:58,493 --> 00:48:01,413
Speaker 2: So, given you've taken quite a scientific approach to this,

932
00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:02,813
Speaker 2: have you tried it out on kids?

933
00:48:04,413 --> 00:48:04,893
Speaker 18: Absolutely?

934
00:48:04,933 --> 00:48:08,493
Speaker 9: I haven't. I haven't put brain imagery imagering devices on

935
00:48:08,573 --> 00:48:16,533
Speaker 9: their mind, on their heads. Levels of joy and levels

936
00:48:16,573 --> 00:48:19,173
Speaker 9: of joy are really really high. And it works on

937
00:48:19,253 --> 00:48:23,293
Speaker 9: adults too. So we're looking we're looking pretty good at

938
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:26,093
Speaker 9: this point, but you know it's a at this point,

939
00:48:26,173 --> 00:48:28,813
Speaker 9: we need to take it to a whole bunch of schools,

940
00:48:28,893 --> 00:48:32,333
Speaker 9: a whole bunch of kids, and and really get as

941
00:48:32,413 --> 00:48:35,453
Speaker 9: much feedback to refine it as we go forward.

942
00:48:35,573 --> 00:48:39,573
Speaker 17: But I think we've We've released one song so far,

943
00:48:40,613 --> 00:48:41,333
Speaker 17: and the.

944
00:48:41,373 --> 00:48:44,253
Speaker 9: Reaction I've had so far is just yeah, I'm getting

945
00:48:44,253 --> 00:48:48,413
Speaker 9: so many wonderful messages, so yeah, I can't complain.

946
00:48:48,933 --> 00:48:53,053
Speaker 2: Hey, you're you're based in the Netherlands these days, I am.

947
00:48:53,293 --> 00:48:56,093
Speaker 9: I'm in a city called Utrecht, which is hard to say,

948
00:48:56,373 --> 00:48:58,613
Speaker 9: but it's a it's a little mini version of Amsterdam.

949
00:48:58,653 --> 00:48:59,493
Speaker 18: It's beautiful place.

950
00:48:59,573 --> 00:49:01,933
Speaker 2: Ah, how good? So how are you finding life in Europe?

951
00:49:04,573 --> 00:49:05,733
Speaker 18: It's it's nice.

952
00:49:07,093 --> 00:49:09,933
Speaker 9: I think any immigrant story is tricky, especially when you

953
00:49:10,013 --> 00:49:12,933
Speaker 9: move to a country with a different native language.

954
00:49:14,573 --> 00:49:17,213
Speaker 18: And I didn't move here for opportunity. It was very

955
00:49:17,293 --> 00:49:20,013
Speaker 18: much to support family and be with family.

956
00:49:20,133 --> 00:49:22,853
Speaker 9: So I moved here with no idea what I was doing,

957
00:49:23,053 --> 00:49:26,013
Speaker 9: had zero connections, zero network, and you had to make

958
00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:29,173
Speaker 9: something happen. And it's a huge challenge and I can't

959
00:49:29,213 --> 00:49:31,533
Speaker 9: pretend that the fact that it's been really hard. But

960
00:49:31,573 --> 00:49:33,813
Speaker 9: at the same time, it's a place for opportunity, a

961
00:49:33,933 --> 00:49:37,333
Speaker 9: place for self discovery and growth, and I just feel

962
00:49:37,413 --> 00:49:39,373
Speaker 9: like I've grown so much in the last few years

963
00:49:39,413 --> 00:49:45,053
Speaker 9: and this album and the intention and meaning behind these

964
00:49:45,093 --> 00:49:50,053
Speaker 9: songs is part of that, because I think this kind

965
00:49:50,053 --> 00:49:52,853
Speaker 9: of situation refines you as a person and refines you

966
00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 9: as an artist, and for me, this is a kind

967
00:49:56,053 --> 00:49:59,413
Speaker 9: of refined version of kids music for me.

968
00:49:59,573 --> 00:50:02,453
Speaker 2: Anyway, before we let you go, I've got to ask,

969
00:50:02,733 --> 00:50:06,693
Speaker 2: given it's been out for or what sixteen hour now,

970
00:50:06,773 --> 00:50:09,133
Speaker 2: have you listened to any of the new Taylor Swift album?

971
00:50:09,213 --> 00:50:10,053
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts?

972
00:50:11,493 --> 00:50:15,093
Speaker 17: May I have been just diving into Budapest. It's my

973
00:50:15,213 --> 00:50:17,413
Speaker 17: first day here, and can.

974
00:50:17,293 --> 00:50:20,213
Speaker 2: I just say thank goodness that you've prioritized that over

975
00:50:20,573 --> 00:50:22,133
Speaker 2: listened to the new WORL, which is not a slight

976
00:50:22,253 --> 00:50:24,453
Speaker 2: on Taylor Swift, but just to say that, what a

977
00:50:24,533 --> 00:50:27,493
Speaker 2: shame it would be if you were declining being in

978
00:50:27,853 --> 00:50:33,573
Speaker 2: in a graffiti laden, potentially sticky Budapest dive bar so

979
00:50:33,693 --> 00:50:37,973
Speaker 2: that you could listen to Taylor Swift's new album exactly.

980
00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:41,413
Speaker 9: And I've got so many songs from Symphony. This is

981
00:50:41,453 --> 00:50:45,253
Speaker 9: why I'm going around Europe in my head. There's no

982
00:50:45,373 --> 00:50:49,453
Speaker 9: space for Taylor Swift. It's just once it's going.

983
00:50:49,733 --> 00:50:52,853
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. Hey, really appreciate your time

984
00:50:52,933 --> 00:50:55,293
Speaker 2: during me, so good to chat and congratulations. It's just

985
00:50:55,493 --> 00:50:59,653
Speaker 2: it's so cool to see artists really like, you know,

986
00:50:59,813 --> 00:51:02,053
Speaker 2: just just expanding the boundaries of where their art might go.

987
00:51:02,293 --> 00:51:04,333
Speaker 2: And I just, yeah, I think it's I think it's

988
00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:07,693
Speaker 2: fantastic and such a such a good cause to you know,

989
00:51:07,813 --> 00:51:10,573
Speaker 2: get kids and adults singing and moving together.

990
00:51:11,813 --> 00:51:14,413
Speaker 9: Absolutely, Thanks Jack for your time, and I hope all

991
00:51:14,453 --> 00:51:16,453
Speaker 9: your listens out there can give it a sing along.

992
00:51:16,493 --> 00:51:17,613
Speaker 18: The size of shot that.

993
00:51:17,733 --> 00:51:19,973
Speaker 2: Is Jeremy readmore. We'll have all the details for sing

994
00:51:20,013 --> 00:51:22,053
Speaker 2: along size on the news Talks ZB. We've so there's

995
00:51:22,093 --> 00:51:22,933
Speaker 2: two from two now.

996
00:51:23,573 --> 00:51:23,733
Speaker 3: See.

997
00:51:23,893 --> 00:51:26,053
Speaker 2: When I asked Andrew Sevill before teen o'clock if he'd

998
00:51:26,093 --> 00:51:28,413
Speaker 2: listened to the to the Tallerswift album, I was being

999
00:51:28,453 --> 00:51:30,573
Speaker 2: a little bit cheeky because I thought, if there's anyone

1000
00:51:30,573 --> 00:51:34,173
Speaker 2: who probably hasn't listened to the Tallerswift album, well, it

1001
00:51:34,293 --> 00:51:36,613
Speaker 2: might be a photo finished between Kevin Mill and Andrew Savel,

1002
00:51:36,733 --> 00:51:39,733
Speaker 2: But I thought Sam might not have listened to it.

1003
00:51:39,853 --> 00:51:42,213
Speaker 2: He might not have been hanging out for five pm

1004
00:51:42,533 --> 00:51:46,933
Speaker 2: n z T Friday afternoon for the album to drop worldwide.

1005
00:51:47,333 --> 00:51:49,693
Speaker 2: But I thought Jeremy might have. Anyway, that they are

1006
00:51:49,813 --> 00:51:53,013
Speaker 2: probably in the minority because the album has dropped Worldwhie

1007
00:51:53,013 --> 00:51:55,653
Speaker 2: We're going to play a couple of songs from over

1008
00:51:55,693 --> 00:51:58,173
Speaker 2: the next hour and a bit on News Talks EDB,

1009
00:51:58,533 --> 00:52:00,373
Speaker 2: so you get a bit of a flavor of what

1010
00:52:00,573 --> 00:52:03,093
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is doing with her twelfth album, The Life

1011
00:52:03,253 --> 00:52:05,813
Speaker 2: of a Show Girl. Before eleven o'clock on news Talks,

1012
00:52:05,853 --> 00:52:10,293
Speaker 2: Z'DB Texpert is here with details on open AI's new

1013
00:52:10,653 --> 00:52:14,253
Speaker 2: video generation platform. So basically, open ai came out with

1014
00:52:14,333 --> 00:52:17,053
Speaker 2: an AI chatbot first of all. Then they came out

1015
00:52:17,093 --> 00:52:19,413
Speaker 2: with an AI product that would help you make videos.

1016
00:52:19,733 --> 00:52:22,413
Speaker 2: Now they've got a brand new video creator and they've

1017
00:52:22,493 --> 00:52:25,133
Speaker 2: kind of made a social media platform to go with it.

1018
00:52:25,333 --> 00:52:26,093
Speaker 3: Is this what we need?

1019
00:52:27,013 --> 00:52:31,173
Speaker 2: My gut says no, But maybe it'll you know, maybe

1020
00:52:31,213 --> 00:52:34,493
Speaker 2: it'll draw in a few hundred million users worldwide. He'll

1021
00:52:34,493 --> 00:52:36,373
Speaker 2: give us all the details on that very shortly. We're

1022
00:52:36,413 --> 00:52:38,453
Speaker 2: in the garden before eleven o'clock as well. But next

1023
00:52:38,533 --> 00:52:40,533
Speaker 2: up your screen time picks for this weekend. If you're

1024
00:52:40,533 --> 00:52:42,813
Speaker 2: looking for a good show to watch or stream at home.

1025
00:52:43,173 --> 00:52:45,133
Speaker 2: Twenty past ten on Newstalk ZB.

1026
00:52:46,613 --> 00:52:50,133
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off the right way. Saturday morning with

1027
00:52:50,373 --> 00:52:53,533
Speaker 1: jackdam News Talks Evy Jack.

1028
00:52:53,573 --> 00:52:56,293
Speaker 2: Why would any mature individual be waiting for Taylor Swiss

1029
00:52:56,373 --> 00:52:59,973
Speaker 2: release off. Come on, Look, we're open minded on this program,

1030
00:53:00,053 --> 00:53:03,653
Speaker 2: aren't we. Look the whole world is not the whole world,

1031
00:53:03,853 --> 00:53:06,253
Speaker 2: but much of the world has been very excited about

1032
00:53:06,373 --> 00:53:10,253
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's new album. It is I think indisputably the

1033
00:53:10,373 --> 00:53:13,733
Speaker 2: most hyped album of the year. So at the very least,

1034
00:53:14,253 --> 00:53:15,973
Speaker 2: you know, I think we can be open minded. We

1035
00:53:16,053 --> 00:53:18,653
Speaker 2: can see what the hype is about. Sues apparently is

1036
00:53:18,693 --> 00:53:21,933
Speaker 2: one of these not very mature individuals, has slipped me

1037
00:53:21,933 --> 00:53:23,413
Speaker 2: a text to say, Jack, I'm going to post shop

1038
00:53:23,493 --> 00:53:26,013
Speaker 2: and wide O Valley listening to your talk about Andrew

1039
00:53:26,093 --> 00:53:28,893
Speaker 2: Saville and his thoughts on Taylor Swift after just buying

1040
00:53:29,013 --> 00:53:33,173
Speaker 2: the Taylor Swift CD for my day at home. How

1041
00:53:33,173 --> 00:53:35,973
Speaker 2: about that? Good on you? Sues, life is such a

1042
00:53:36,093 --> 00:53:38,453
Speaker 2: rich tapestry, she says, Yeah, ninety two to ninety two

1043
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:39,893
Speaker 2: if you want to send us the text this morning

1044
00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:42,373
Speaker 2: buying a CD. Truthly, Todd, I don't even know you

1045
00:53:42,453 --> 00:53:44,053
Speaker 2: could buy a CD anymore.

1046
00:53:45,093 --> 00:53:45,333
Speaker 3: He go.

1047
00:53:46,013 --> 00:53:48,133
Speaker 2: We're all learning this morning, you see, And that is

1048
00:53:48,213 --> 00:53:49,893
Speaker 2: the attitude that we're going to bring when we listen

1049
00:53:50,253 --> 00:53:53,733
Speaker 2: to the Life of a show Girl, her new album

1050
00:53:53,853 --> 00:53:55,693
Speaker 2: very shortly right now twenty four past ten, Time to

1051
00:53:55,733 --> 00:53:58,453
Speaker 2: get your screen time picks for this weekend. Tara Ward

1052
00:53:58,933 --> 00:54:01,933
Speaker 2: has the tough job of sifting through all of the

1053
00:54:02,013 --> 00:54:04,613
Speaker 2: amazing shows that you're watched in stream to bring three

1054
00:54:04,733 --> 00:54:08,213
Speaker 2: recommendations to us every week. Get Atara Going.

1055
00:54:08,253 --> 00:54:08,933
Speaker 14: It's a tough job.

1056
00:54:09,173 --> 00:54:11,773
Speaker 2: It's a tough gig. It's a tough gig. Let's begin

1057
00:54:11,933 --> 00:54:15,413
Speaker 2: with a show streaming on Neon tell Us about Billy

1058
00:54:15,533 --> 00:54:16,933
Speaker 2: Joel and so it goes.

1059
00:54:18,093 --> 00:54:20,573
Speaker 20: Yeah, this is a new documentary series all about Billy

1060
00:54:20,653 --> 00:54:24,133
Speaker 20: Joel's life and music and career. And there are only

1061
00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:26,533
Speaker 20: two episodes in this, but each one is about two

1062
00:54:26,573 --> 00:54:28,773
Speaker 20: and a half hours long, so this is quite a

1063
00:54:28,853 --> 00:54:31,493
Speaker 20: deep dive and I really liked that it has the

1064
00:54:31,573 --> 00:54:35,453
Speaker 20: time to build up quite a detailed, quite personal picture

1065
00:54:35,573 --> 00:54:37,453
Speaker 20: about Billy Joel as a musician and a.

1066
00:54:37,493 --> 00:54:38,613
Speaker 12: Songwriter and a person.

1067
00:54:39,333 --> 00:54:40,893
Speaker 20: Whether you get to the end of that five hours

1068
00:54:40,933 --> 00:54:42,773
Speaker 20: and think it's too long, I'm not sure yet. But

1069
00:54:42,893 --> 00:54:46,213
Speaker 20: the first episode deals with his early years as a

1070
00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:50,013
Speaker 20: songwriter and the beginnings of his career, and the second

1071
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:53,333
Speaker 20: is his life from the eighties onwards, when MTV arrived

1072
00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:56,053
Speaker 20: on the scene and sort of gave him a new

1073
00:54:56,133 --> 00:54:59,573
Speaker 20: audience and a new burst of a career. So if

1074
00:54:59,613 --> 00:55:02,493
Speaker 20: you love American music or the seventies or eighties is

1075
00:55:02,533 --> 00:55:05,293
Speaker 20: your era, and particularly, of course if you love Billy Joel,

1076
00:55:05,533 --> 00:55:08,013
Speaker 20: this is a fascinating watch because it covers so much

1077
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Speaker 20: cultural time and space and history from the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 20: all the way through to now, and Billy Joel is

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Speaker 20: looking back on his life, speaking honestly about the highs

1080
00:55:18,613 --> 00:55:21,733
Speaker 20: and the lows, and comes across as as kind of

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Speaker 20: an ordinary guy who just wanted to make music and

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Speaker 20: didn't necessarily want all the stardom and other stuff that

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Speaker 20: came with it. There's also people like Bruce Springsteen and

1084
00:55:31,373 --> 00:55:34,693
Speaker 20: Paul McCartney and Sting who talk about his influence on

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00:55:34,733 --> 00:55:38,293
Speaker 20: their music, and some amazing footage and home movies and.

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Speaker 17: Personal stuff as well.

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Speaker 20: So it's a really comprehensive series that pulls lots of

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Speaker 20: different threads together from one man's life and gives us

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Speaker 20: quite an intimate, a nostalgic watch.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Okay, cool, that sounds really good. So that's Billy

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Speaker 2: Joel and so it goes. It's on Neon, on TV

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Speaker 2: and Z Plus. You've seen The twelve, Yeah, this is

1093
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Speaker 2: the return of The Twelve.

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Speaker 20: This is a great Australian murder mystery drama. It's a

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00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:05,453
Speaker 20: remake of a Belgian TV series and I Guess is

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00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:09,093
Speaker 20: a legal drama as well. Each season of The Twelve

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00:56:09,373 --> 00:56:12,333
Speaker 20: is about a complex murder case that goes to court

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00:56:12,453 --> 00:56:16,093
Speaker 20: and we see the murder storyline unfold through the eyes

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Speaker 20: of the jury. So each of the twelve jury members

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00:56:18,853 --> 00:56:22,533
Speaker 20: brings their own beliefs and experiences into the courtroom and

1101
00:56:23,453 --> 00:56:26,253
Speaker 20: as they try to untangle their evidence and reach a

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Speaker 20: consensus about whether they're accused, is guilty or not guilty,

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Speaker 20: And the show is asking you, how do our life

1104
00:56:32,973 --> 00:56:36,333
Speaker 20: experiences influence the decisions that we make and whether we're

1105
00:56:36,373 --> 00:56:39,733
Speaker 20: aware of those factors or not. Season three has just

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00:56:39,853 --> 00:56:43,813
Speaker 20: landed on TVZ Plus. It stars Sam Neil who returns

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Speaker 20: as one of the defense lawyers and as always as

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Speaker 20: great in this Danielle Cormack and Sarah Piers to other

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00:56:49,333 --> 00:56:52,653
Speaker 20: New Zealand actors also star in season three. So if

1110
00:56:52,693 --> 00:56:55,933
Speaker 20: you like good crime drama, it's not old fashioned, but

1111
00:56:56,013 --> 00:57:00,213
Speaker 20: it's classic and it's storytelling, solid writing, solid acting. It's

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Speaker 20: not trying to do anything clever, but it's still compelling.

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Speaker 10: TV. This is definitely worth a watch.

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00:57:05,733 --> 00:57:08,493
Speaker 20: Season two is also on TVZ Plus and the seasons

1115
00:57:08,493 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 20: are self contained stories, so you can just dive right them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, cool, Okay, that's the twelve. It's on TVNZ

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00:57:14,213 --> 00:57:16,133
Speaker 2: Plus and on Netflix. Dark Winds.

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00:57:17,253 --> 00:57:20,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, Dark Ones isn't a new show. It's been hiding

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Speaker 20: away on a smaller streaming service called AMC for a

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Speaker 20: few years, but it has just come to Netflix, which

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00:57:26,293 --> 00:57:28,333
Speaker 20: is giving it a whole new audience, which is fantastic

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00:57:28,413 --> 00:57:31,093
Speaker 20: because it's such a great show. I guess you'd call

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Speaker 20: this a crime drama, but it's also a psychological thriller

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Speaker 20: and almost a Western as well. It's set in the

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Speaker 20: nineteen seventies in Arizona and New Mexico, and it's about

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Speaker 20: two dinner Navajo police officers who work on Navajo Nation,

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00:57:44,733 --> 00:57:47,893
Speaker 20: which is the largest American Indian reservation in the States,

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Speaker 20: and they are trying to solve a double murder case.

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Speaker 20: They are dealing with a lot of local hostility, they

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Speaker 20: are trying to work with the local FBI, who work

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Speaker 20: very differently to them, and they're also dealing with their

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00:58:00,213 --> 00:58:04,133
Speaker 20: own spiritual beliefs and traditions and relationships as they try

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Speaker 20: and work out what has happened in their own community.

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Speaker 20: And this is a slow burn of a series. It's

1135
00:58:10,613 --> 00:58:12,973
Speaker 20: not in a hurry in a good way. It's dark

1136
00:58:13,213 --> 00:58:16,213
Speaker 20: and and a bit edgy, and the locations and the

1137
00:58:16,293 --> 00:58:19,893
Speaker 20: desert are stunning. It's beautifully made. And if you're a

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00:58:19,973 --> 00:58:22,373
Speaker 20: fan of crime dramas, but you feel like you've seen

1139
00:58:22,933 --> 00:58:25,973
Speaker 20: every angle for a murder mystery, this is something different.

1140
00:58:26,453 --> 00:58:29,573
Speaker 20: And it's very rich in the storytelling because of the

1141
00:58:29,693 --> 00:58:33,213
Speaker 20: setting and the characters and the history that anchors the show.

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Speaker 12: So this is definitely worth a look.

1143
00:58:35,933 --> 00:58:38,693
Speaker 2: So that is Dark Wind that's on Netflix, The Twelves

1144
00:58:38,733 --> 00:58:41,293
Speaker 2: on TVNZ Plus, and Billy Joel and So It Goes

1145
00:58:41,453 --> 00:58:44,573
Speaker 2: is on the on Haitara. I took your advice finally

1146
00:58:44,613 --> 00:58:46,533
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks late, and I went and watched

1147
00:58:46,613 --> 00:58:51,093
Speaker 2: that documentary about the Biggest Loser Fit for TV on Netflix. Yes,

1148
00:58:52,493 --> 00:58:56,133
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just isn't it amazing? How like what

1149
00:58:56,773 --> 00:59:01,613
Speaker 2: is deemed to be okay culturally changes over a relatively time.

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Speaker 2: I remember watching that show, loving that show, finding it's

1151
00:59:04,373 --> 00:59:07,613
Speaker 2: so compelling, and then watching that docking I was like, man,

1152
00:59:07,693 --> 00:59:10,813
Speaker 2: by today's standards, this is just wildly inappropriate.

1153
00:59:11,973 --> 00:59:14,653
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's amazing when you step out and look back

1154
00:59:14,733 --> 00:59:16,893
Speaker 20: and think, how how did how was it okay?

1155
00:59:16,973 --> 00:59:18,573
Speaker 2: How was any of today's standards?

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Speaker 4: Right?

1157
00:59:18,893 --> 00:59:22,533
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and like the contestants doing the challenges

1158
00:59:22,573 --> 00:59:26,053
Speaker 2: where they had to build towers out of junk food

1159
00:59:26,173 --> 00:59:28,933
Speaker 2: but using only their mouths to build it, and stuff like,

1160
00:59:29,093 --> 00:59:29,933
Speaker 2: oh my god.

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Speaker 20: And the number of people who watched that every week, Yeah,

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00:59:33,653 --> 00:59:38,373
Speaker 20: the people. You know, it pulled in astonishing numbers of audiences.

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Speaker 20: And it was one of many shows like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:59:42,853 --> 00:59:47,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, reasonable job of trying to bring some nuance into

1166
00:59:47,973 --> 00:59:50,133
Speaker 2: it too, and suggesting that oh, you know, there were

1167
00:59:50,173 --> 00:59:52,573
Speaker 2: some components of the show that might have been okay

1168
00:59:52,693 --> 00:59:55,213
Speaker 2: and good and you know, I just anyway, I just yeah,

1169
00:59:55,453 --> 00:59:57,653
Speaker 2: it was a great recommendation. So thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: We very much appreciate it. Yeah, Tara's pets will all

1171
01:00:01,133 --> 01:00:02,973
Speaker 2: be up on the news talks. He'd be website as well,

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Speaker 2: so you can do that. Don't forget before eleven o'clock,

1173
01:00:04,973 --> 01:00:07,213
Speaker 2: we are in the garden own in the garden has

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Speaker 2: lots of spring, beautiful, colorful spring options. If you haven't

1175
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Speaker 2: visited the Garden center, now is the time to do it.

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Speaker 2: Make sure things are in the ground as the weather

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Speaker 2: starts to warm. This is Gon ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News Talks.

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Speaker 13: A b Thank you for the lovely blue que speeder

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Speaker 13: a beach. Why you Donna the lafe of Sogol Bay

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Speaker 13: and you never ever.

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Speaker 10: Got away the law? You play the mud? You kay,

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Speaker 10: you're softer than.

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Speaker 13: A kid and sew you don't a the lafe of

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Speaker 13: so girl bad and you never got a runner.

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Speaker 12: She was a menace.

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Speaker 2: There are some albums for which you know success is

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01:00:58,093 --> 01:01:02,493
Speaker 2: kind of inevitable, and then there are Taylor Swift albums.

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Speaker 2: When the announcement of your new record get half a

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Speaker 2: billion views just the announcement, it's pretty much predetermined. I

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01:01:12,653 --> 01:01:15,853
Speaker 2: think that the actual music is going to be everywhere,

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Speaker 2: and you're probably going to notch up a few streams

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01:01:18,093 --> 01:01:19,733
Speaker 2: here or the In fact, Talis might be one of

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Speaker 2: the only artists in the world to actually make a

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Speaker 2: bit of money out of Spotify. Anyway. She paired that

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Speaker 2: announcement with a launch event film featuring lyric videos backstage

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Speaker 2: footage that sold or pre sold fifteen million dollars worth

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Speaker 2: of tickets in the US. Alone, and the album has

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Speaker 2: been pre saved more than five million times on Spotify.

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01:01:42,493 --> 01:01:44,813
Speaker 2: The possibility is, of course, that Tatus of stardom is

1202
01:01:44,813 --> 01:01:47,933
Speaker 2: about to get even bigger. She's engaged to be married

1203
01:01:48,013 --> 01:01:51,573
Speaker 2: to Travis Kelsey. It's an all American love story. Her

1204
01:01:51,653 --> 01:01:53,733
Speaker 2: new album's out, The Life of a show Girl, has

1205
01:01:53,893 --> 01:01:56,453
Speaker 2: dropped our music review of Chris Schultz actually went to

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Speaker 2: a listening party. Yes, they still exist, so he went

1207
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Speaker 2: to a listening party with his daughter. He's going to

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Speaker 2: share all the details on that before midday. Like I said,

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01:02:05,253 --> 01:02:07,973
Speaker 2: before ten o'clock, I had a bit of a listen

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Speaker 2: and you know, I will be the first one that

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Speaker 2: I haven't like. Taylor's was the last few albums haven't

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01:02:15,133 --> 01:02:18,893
Speaker 2: been for me. Her kind of pop era hasn't been

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01:02:18,973 --> 01:02:21,733
Speaker 2: for me. I really liked her early kind of country

1214
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Speaker 2: pop stuff. I like that just her Taylor and a guitar.

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Speaker 2: I was into that. Romeo and Juliet Tim mcgare that

1216
01:02:27,213 --> 01:02:30,053
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And yeah, it hasn't really been my

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01:02:30,133 --> 01:02:32,013
Speaker 2: capita over the last few years. But I listened to

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Speaker 2: the album this morning and I thought, I just thought

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Speaker 2: it would be a bit more upbeat. I thought it

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Speaker 2: would be maybe a Pacier or something. And yeah, so

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01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:45,253
Speaker 2: I felt like it was a bit ah me my perspective,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I've only listened to it once. We're gonna

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01:02:47,373 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 2: listen to it a bit more before midday, and like

1224
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:50,973
Speaker 2: I said, Chris Shultz will be in with his thoughts

1225
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Speaker 2: on it very soon before eleven o'clock. We're in the garden.

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Speaker 2: Next up, our texpert is here. He's answered. He was

1227
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Speaker 2: trying to answer one of the big questions in the

1228
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Speaker 2: tech industry right now, in the consumer tech world. Anyway,

1229
01:03:03,413 --> 01:03:06,733
Speaker 2: are aiglasses really going to be thing?

1230
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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions?

1231
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Speaker 3: It's the Mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 21: Let's get some insight into how much of a mess

1233
01:03:13,493 --> 01:03:16,653
Speaker 21: the Mary Party in a flabbel former co leaders with

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Speaker 21: us Erud Kappa Key. I don't know him, do you?

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Speaker 21: He seems like a very affable, likable sort of bloke,

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Speaker 21: very articulate.

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Speaker 8: That's a good summary of them.

1238
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Speaker 21: Okay, So is he trouble or is he going the

1239
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Speaker 21: something fundamentally wrong.

1240
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Speaker 8: With the Mamory Party and the statement of these natives.

1241
01:03:28,733 --> 01:03:31,653
Speaker 8: Politicians need to stop being activists, and activists need to

1242
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Speaker 8: stop being politicians, which I think is a fair call.

1243
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Speaker 21: Is the dictatorship thing. The thing is that your observation

1244
01:03:36,973 --> 01:03:38,173
Speaker 21: that they got a problem around there.

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Speaker 8: I sort of haven't been involved too much with the

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Speaker 8: party at that level since I left, But on the

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Speaker 8: face of it, you'd say, well, there's a few things

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Speaker 8: going on.

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Speaker 21: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 21: a Vida News talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one to eleven on news talk Ed B. Apple

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01:03:55,053 --> 01:03:59,093
Speaker 2: has tried to crack out the consumer wearables market in

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years with some new products, including

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Speaker 2: this Apple Vision Pro headset, which was its kind of

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Speaker 2: ORGANI entered reality headset. Extremely expensive. Some people love it,

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Speaker 2: some people said it made them feel a little bit carssack,

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01:04:13,053 --> 01:04:15,093
Speaker 2: but it certainly didn't achieve the kind of sales that

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01:04:15,213 --> 01:04:19,213
Speaker 2: some other Apple products have over the years. Anyway, our

1259
01:04:19,333 --> 01:04:21,413
Speaker 2: reports out of the US now suggest that Apple is

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Speaker 2: giving up on its Vision Pro headsets and turning to

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Speaker 2: glasses instead, like wearable glasses, you know, like ray bands

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Meta has a pair of wearable

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Speaker 2: glasses that have been a little bit more, a little

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Speaker 2: more successful than people had expected. Our textbook Paul steenhouses

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Speaker 2: here with the details of Paul, Yeah, good morning.

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Speaker 15: It's not a complete reversal. They say it's a stage jack,

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Speaker 15: like they're still going to have the Apple Vision Proof

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Speaker 15: for sale, but they're apparently looking at doing a big refresh,

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Speaker 15: And now that refresh has been shelved because I think

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Speaker 15: that the sales haven't been great. And I don't know

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Speaker 15: if you remember when it launched, there was talk that

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Speaker 15: they actually were trying to build the battery into the

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Speaker 15: headset too, but they it was getting too heavy from

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Speaker 15: its heads. It was too you know, it's a pretty

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Speaker 15: cumbersome device. If you've seen it's almost like ski goggles, right,

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Speaker 15: but like completely fill down, like it's a lot of

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Speaker 15: technology on your face. And so they had to revert

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01:05:17,773 --> 01:05:19,893
Speaker 15: in that to put a battery pack. And people were

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Speaker 15: saying at the time, like, well, there's your first fail,

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Speaker 15: like maybe you weren't ready for this. Meta has had

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Speaker 15: a lot of success so far with these wearable glasses.

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Speaker 15: I know some people who have bought them. I don't

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Speaker 15: have a pair myself, but they enjoy them. They enjoyed

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Speaker 15: them when they didn't have a screen, and says that

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Speaker 15: having the screen on the glasses is a real game changer,

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Speaker 15: and Apple has obviously been paying attention because Yeah, the

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Speaker 15: word is now is that instead of focusing on the refresh,

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Speaker 15: all the attentions diverting, they're going to start looking at

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01:05:51,293 --> 01:05:55,973
Speaker 15: very wearable daily glasses. That basically means you'd be able

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Speaker 15: to keep your phone in your pocket and be able

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01:05:59,253 --> 01:06:02,333
Speaker 15: to get things like surriy in your ears, or listen

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01:06:02,373 --> 01:06:04,893
Speaker 15: to your music, or get directions turn by turn wherever

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01:06:04,933 --> 01:06:08,053
Speaker 15: you're looking. It's it's probably you know, it's like the

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Speaker 15: most futuristic. You know, it feels very futuristic, doesn't It

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01:06:10,933 --> 01:06:14,133
Speaker 15: feels kind of interesting. But man, the timelines they're talking

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Speaker 15: about with this stuff. So metas already got these out right.

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Speaker 19: They launched the ray bands with the screen.

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Speaker 15: Apple's now putting all of their smart people, all of

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Speaker 15: their money into you know, now pivoting, and they don't

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Speaker 15: think that they will be talking about this, like releasing

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Speaker 15: a product with a screen built in until.

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Speaker 10: Twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Wow, So are you right? Yeah, met is going to

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Speaker 2: have a real clear advantage. Head start, Yeah, massive headstart.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Which you know, if Apple hasn't necessarily been the worst thing,

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01:06:47,933 --> 01:06:50,133
Speaker 15: there were MP three players before the iPod, you know,

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01:06:50,333 --> 01:06:52,853
Speaker 15: like that would be the argument. But yeah, like just

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01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:55,213
Speaker 15: these timelines, so they're thinking at the moment, the first

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Speaker 15: announcement of these new glasses would expect to be next year,

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01:06:59,933 --> 01:07:02,733
Speaker 15: but they won't have a screen going into like sale

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01:07:02,773 --> 01:07:05,493
Speaker 15: in twenty twenty six. Yeah, but the one with a

1313
01:07:05,573 --> 01:07:09,533
Speaker 15: screen twenty seven going into twenty twenty. It's just crazy,

1314
01:07:09,573 --> 01:07:09,853
Speaker 15: isn't it.

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01:07:10,133 --> 01:07:13,973
Speaker 2: So Open AI has just released its new video generation model,

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01:07:14,293 --> 01:07:15,173
Speaker 2: Sora too.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and it's really good, like to the point that,

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Speaker 15: you know, I think it has Hollywood a little nervous.

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01:07:26,213 --> 01:07:29,133
Speaker 15: It's it's very realistic in the sense that they've managed

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Speaker 15: to get the AI to understand some of the physics.

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01:07:32,533 --> 01:07:33,053
Speaker 10: And in one of the.

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Speaker 15: Example videos that they showed, it was someone doing a

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01:07:35,973 --> 01:07:40,893
Speaker 15: backflip on a paddle board right and failing. So they're

1324
01:07:40,933 --> 01:07:42,973
Speaker 15: standing on the paddle board and they're actually wabbling and

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01:07:43,093 --> 01:07:45,333
Speaker 15: kind of you know, stabilizing like you would expect in

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Speaker 15: the real world.

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Speaker 22: They do the backflip, which looks real.

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Speaker 15: And then when it lands, the paddle board you know,

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01:07:50,213 --> 01:07:53,333
Speaker 15: obviously compresses into the water and it shakes again. And

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Speaker 15: it was very realistic, right, worryingly realistic. And I've actually

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01:08:00,773 --> 01:08:03,373
Speaker 15: launched a new app that is going to be the

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01:08:03,493 --> 01:08:07,693
Speaker 15: home to all of these kind of saw two artificially

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01:08:07,773 --> 01:08:12,573
Speaker 15: generated videos also called Sora. So it kind of looks

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01:08:12,733 --> 01:08:14,213
Speaker 15: like TikTok jack.

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Speaker 19: But all of it's fake.

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Speaker 15: So as you're scrolling through, none of the videos is real,

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Speaker 15: none of it's happened.

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Speaker 2: It looks like it's possible.

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Speaker 19: Some of it looks like it's possible.

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Speaker 15: They also showed videos of like a horse riding a horse.

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01:08:27,173 --> 01:08:30,413
Speaker 15: You know, so not possible, but you can make things

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01:08:30,533 --> 01:08:33,653
Speaker 15: very very realistic. And to take it one step further,

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01:08:34,013 --> 01:08:39,253
Speaker 15: you can now put yourself into these videos. They say

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01:08:39,573 --> 01:08:43,533
Speaker 15: that you can't do anything X rated with those with yourself.

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01:08:43,853 --> 01:08:46,093
Speaker 15: They say you can't put someone into the video unless

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01:08:46,133 --> 01:08:49,213
Speaker 15: they've given consent. So there's like a whole process you

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01:08:49,293 --> 01:08:51,493
Speaker 15: go through when you're giving your video and creating an avatar.

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01:08:51,533 --> 01:08:53,173
Speaker 15: You've got to like say the words that appear on

1349
01:08:53,213 --> 01:08:55,853
Speaker 15: the screen in this whole thing, and you can't put

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01:08:55,893 --> 01:08:58,733
Speaker 15: public figures in unless they've also kind of made themselves

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01:08:58,773 --> 01:09:02,373
Speaker 15: available on the platform. Two but a lot of interest.

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01:09:02,573 --> 01:09:04,613
Speaker 15: I guess what's number one on the Apple App Store

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01:09:04,693 --> 01:09:04,973
Speaker 15: right now?

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01:09:05,133 --> 01:09:06,373
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not surprised.

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01:09:06,773 --> 01:09:08,013
Speaker 18: But it does require you.

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Speaker 15: To get an invite code, so I haven't got my

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01:09:10,493 --> 01:09:12,573
Speaker 15: grubby little fingers on it just yet.

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01:09:12,493 --> 01:09:16,373
Speaker 2: Yet, but yet. Yeah, I'm looking forward to I've seen

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Speaker 2: some of the examples, some of the video examples. They

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01:09:18,493 --> 01:09:23,413
Speaker 2: are pretty impressive. Not perfect necessarily, but pretty impressive. And

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Speaker 2: you can see how it's six months. Oh yeah, that's it.

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01:09:26,133 --> 01:09:26,373
Speaker 10: That's it.

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01:09:26,573 --> 01:09:29,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just get strong. And if people are already

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Speaker 2: losing hours a day to TikTok, you can imagine this

1365
01:09:32,013 --> 01:09:34,053
Speaker 2: might do something similar. Thanks so much, Paul, That's how

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Speaker 2: textbok Paul Stenhouse sixteen to eleven on News Talks, he'd

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Speaker 2: be our Master Samarier with his wine pick for the week. Next.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Be wine of the week Our Master Samaria Cameron Douglas

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Speaker 2: has chosen me. I know that seems confusing, but Me

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Speaker 2: is the name of the wine. It's my mater. Heweed,

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Speaker 2: It's a pen and Wi from last year twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: The Whited Cameron's with us this morning.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 18: I hope you're well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you so, tell us about the wine, tell us

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01:10:12,573 --> 01:10:12,893
Speaker 2: about me.

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Speaker 16: It's such a fabulous name for a pinin noir, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Because it is all about me.

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Speaker 16: As you stated, this is what I call a complete

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01:10:23,613 --> 01:10:27,093
Speaker 16: wine because anybody that wants to segue from white wine

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01:10:27,093 --> 01:10:29,093
Speaker 16: into red wine but don't want to go too big

1384
01:10:29,173 --> 01:10:31,693
Speaker 16: and too heavy, this is the right wine for you.

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01:10:32,293 --> 01:10:38,013
Speaker 16: It's complete because it's got all of these structural elements

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01:10:38,573 --> 01:10:40,453
Speaker 16: that frame a lovely cora of fruit. And what I

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01:10:40,533 --> 01:10:43,693
Speaker 16: mean by structural elements, it's just they've gotten some nice

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Speaker 16: fine tannins which give that mouth feel, and what I

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01:10:46,933 --> 01:10:49,893
Speaker 16: call dissolvable tannons, so all of that protein in your

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01:10:49,973 --> 01:10:55,093
Speaker 16: saliva dissolves these tannins into nothing very slowly but effectively,

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Speaker 16: and then this line of acidity both together frame this

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01:10:59,773 --> 01:11:05,453
Speaker 16: core of fruit, which is crunchy fresh cherries and sort

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01:11:05,493 --> 01:11:10,773
Speaker 16: of that old straw kind of mouth feel flavor profile.

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Speaker 16: It's it's quite delicious, but very light on its feet

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Speaker 16: as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice, it sounds amazing. What would you match it with?

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Speaker 16: Well, I call it a porch pounder, meaning that you

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01:11:22,853 --> 01:11:25,613
Speaker 16: can just smash a couple of glasses out whilst you're

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Speaker 16: just watching the sunset. So I would match it with

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01:11:29,773 --> 01:11:31,733
Speaker 16: a pair of ti food something that you would eat

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01:11:31,733 --> 01:11:33,893
Speaker 16: while you're on the back deck looking at the sunshine.

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Speaker 4: So things like aaron.

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Speaker 16: Cheeny that's got a little klamato olive in it because

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01:11:38,773 --> 01:11:42,573
Speaker 16: you need that little salt kick inside the rice aaron

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01:11:42,653 --> 01:11:46,053
Speaker 16: cheni balls. And it's also very good with things like

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01:11:46,213 --> 01:11:50,573
Speaker 16: prawn ravioli with a little bit of bisk type sauce on.

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01:11:50,693 --> 01:11:53,293
Speaker 16: There's a little bit of richness but not too much.

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01:11:53,813 --> 01:11:57,613
Speaker 16: And that there's this bridging ingredient in food and wine pairing,

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01:11:58,613 --> 01:12:02,493
Speaker 16: or many and one of them is tomato and cherry

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01:12:02,533 --> 01:12:06,533
Speaker 16: tomatoes are excellent at producing the links between food and

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01:12:06,613 --> 01:12:09,493
Speaker 16: wine together. And if you want to go something simple

1412
01:12:10,453 --> 01:12:15,253
Speaker 16: without protein, just go with a catchier peppi spaghetti spread

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01:12:15,293 --> 01:12:17,453
Speaker 16: with a little bit of parmesan cheese. It's really really

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01:12:17,533 --> 01:12:20,493
Speaker 16: lovely with a wine like the Mattahiwi pino.

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01:12:20,773 --> 01:12:23,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, how was the twenty four vintage and widered.

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01:12:22,893 --> 01:12:27,093
Speaker 16: Upper Well, ultimately it was a slightly smaller vintage but

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01:12:27,333 --> 01:12:30,693
Speaker 16: high quality. Right, they had really really good what we

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01:12:30,813 --> 01:12:36,773
Speaker 16: call flower set, giving slightly smaller bunches, but ultimately high quality.

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01:12:37,253 --> 01:12:39,573
Speaker 16: And when you combine that with good vineyard management that

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01:12:39,653 --> 01:12:43,733
Speaker 16: they do at Mattahiwey estate. You produce wines that have

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01:12:43,893 --> 01:12:47,493
Speaker 16: this lovely level of concentration, mouthfeel and length. So a

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01:12:47,653 --> 01:12:50,693
Speaker 16: really really lovely wine to think about over this weekend

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Speaker 16: and next week.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Thanks Cameron. Cameron's picked for us this week is

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Speaker 2: Me by Matahiwee. It's a pen and Wi from twenty

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01:12:57,813 --> 01:12:59,773
Speaker 2: twenty four and wide it up a The details will

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Speaker 2: be on the newstalk z'db website.

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Speaker 1: Gardling with Steel Shops battery system kits get a second

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Speaker 1: battery half price for a.

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Speaker 2: Couple of weeks in the spring. Now and if you're

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01:13:09,213 --> 01:13:11,133
Speaker 2: looking for a little bit of inspiration, a little bit

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01:13:11,173 --> 01:13:14,133
Speaker 2: of color in your garden, something a bit new Men

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01:13:14,253 --> 01:13:16,413
Speaker 2: in the Garden route climb passes here with some tips

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01:13:16,493 --> 01:13:16,853
Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 3: Good morning sir, Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 10: You're absolutely right. This is the time to actually get

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01:13:23,013 --> 01:13:26,973
Speaker 10: inspiration from all over the place. And it's nice to know,

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01:13:27,173 --> 01:13:30,853
Speaker 10: isn't it. I've been away from home for about three weeks,

1439
01:13:30,853 --> 01:13:33,493
Speaker 10: so it's to be quite sore as lovely coming home

1440
01:13:33,573 --> 01:13:36,973
Speaker 10: last night again and seeing how things have changed. Unbelievable.

1441
01:13:37,053 --> 01:13:40,453
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, another last three weeks. Yeah yeah, three weeks.

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01:13:40,533 --> 01:13:44,173
Speaker 10: That is so much. In the springtime, the CoFe is

1443
01:13:44,213 --> 01:13:48,053
Speaker 10: flowering like billy. Oh we've gotten oh, we've got all

1444
01:13:48,093 --> 01:13:50,053
Speaker 10: sorts of things flowering at the moment. But some stuff

1445
01:13:50,053 --> 01:13:52,973
Speaker 10: has changed as well. But anyway, the idea I think

1446
01:13:53,053 --> 01:13:56,493
Speaker 10: that people would would like to know is that if

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01:13:56,533 --> 01:13:58,653
Speaker 10: you really want to know what your garden is going

1448
01:13:58,733 --> 01:14:01,853
Speaker 10: to look like, if you're working on the garden, for instance,

1449
01:14:02,333 --> 01:14:03,853
Speaker 10: you can do a few things. You can go of

1450
01:14:03,933 --> 01:14:06,573
Speaker 10: course with the botenny gardens, I've always been a fan

1451
01:14:06,693 --> 01:14:09,853
Speaker 10: of that, especially Hagley Park Potannica well you know what

1452
01:14:09,893 --> 01:14:13,733
Speaker 10: I mean, just fabulous, but also the Botanica and in

1453
01:14:13,813 --> 01:14:19,373
Speaker 10: Auckland is unbelievably great. It's fabulous. But there's another one

1454
01:14:19,493 --> 01:14:23,053
Speaker 10: thing that I've just noticed as a Dutchman, and it

1455
01:14:23,213 --> 01:14:26,733
Speaker 10: is when you go walking around your own area where

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01:14:26,773 --> 01:14:30,293
Speaker 10: you live, you know, like half an hour walk, and

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01:14:30,413 --> 01:14:34,693
Speaker 10: you see people's gardens in the neighborhood with plants that

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01:14:35,013 --> 01:14:37,813
Speaker 10: fit where you live or plants that work that work

1459
01:14:37,853 --> 01:14:41,613
Speaker 10: where you live. And it's absolutely lovely to work with

1460
01:14:41,733 --> 01:14:45,213
Speaker 10: your community if you like on on working out exactly

1461
01:14:45,333 --> 01:14:49,053
Speaker 10: what what looks well, what what what grows well, et cetera.

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01:14:49,453 --> 01:14:52,933
Speaker 10: And sometimes what I used to do anyway, in Titirami,

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01:14:53,013 --> 01:14:53,813
Speaker 10: and lang home.

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01:14:53,653 --> 01:14:53,973
Speaker 3: And so on.

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01:14:54,373 --> 01:14:56,973
Speaker 10: I would go up the drive and knock on somebody's

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01:14:57,013 --> 01:15:00,173
Speaker 10: door and say, excuse me, you've got this lovely day.

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01:15:00,293 --> 01:15:00,893
Speaker 8: What is the.

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01:15:02,813 --> 01:15:05,493
Speaker 10: That's that is a tetrata or there's an amalek here

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01:15:05,693 --> 01:15:07,973
Speaker 10: or something. You get to say, and you know what

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01:15:08,133 --> 01:15:11,053
Speaker 10: the nicest stream is Jack that all these gardeners will say,

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01:15:11,613 --> 01:15:12,453
Speaker 10: you want to cut in?

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01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:13,013
Speaker 4: Ah?

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01:15:13,173 --> 01:15:16,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, yeah, you know yeah.

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Speaker 10: And that's exactly how it works. So I decided a

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01:15:19,693 --> 01:15:21,693
Speaker 10: couple of weeks ago to go too Julie's garden here

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01:15:22,213 --> 01:15:24,293
Speaker 10: and noticed that she does it all the time. She

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01:15:24,453 --> 01:15:30,133
Speaker 10: has this wonderful stuff of contrasts, I suppose. So I've

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01:15:30,253 --> 01:15:32,573
Speaker 10: taken a whole lot of pictures and I know Levy

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01:15:32,693 --> 01:15:34,533
Speaker 10: is going to put them on this on the website.

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01:15:35,093 --> 01:15:38,493
Speaker 10: But there's a wonderful example. What of the for instance,

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01:15:38,533 --> 01:15:43,493
Speaker 10: of the Amalnkia canadensis, the white flowers and a Canadian

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01:15:43,653 --> 01:15:46,733
Speaker 10: shed bush we call it, which actually I kind of

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01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:49,893
Speaker 10: knew from my Canadian friend or Biki Wi trust anyway,

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01:15:50,373 --> 01:15:53,293
Speaker 10: but she put that not just on his own, but

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01:15:53,453 --> 01:15:56,933
Speaker 10: with the background of canomalies, which is the Japanese quins,

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01:15:57,373 --> 01:16:00,933
Speaker 10: which is a red, beautiful red flower as well, and

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01:16:01,053 --> 01:16:05,533
Speaker 10: they contrast absolutely gorgeous. So I thought I put them

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01:16:05,573 --> 01:16:08,693
Speaker 10: in there because this is something that other people don't know.

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01:16:08,893 --> 01:16:11,373
Speaker 10: The problem with canomalies, though it is very sharp, you've

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01:16:11,373 --> 01:16:13,693
Speaker 10: got to be careful when you go so you don't

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01:16:13,733 --> 01:16:17,533
Speaker 10: get all these hassles. And then the last bits of

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01:16:18,213 --> 01:16:21,533
Speaker 10: photographs that I put together was a typical thing of

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01:16:22,373 --> 01:16:25,213
Speaker 10: many different things that you see from different angles, and

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01:16:25,453 --> 01:16:29,453
Speaker 10: every different angle makes a completely different garden. So we

1495
01:16:29,573 --> 01:16:35,013
Speaker 10: have euphobia, for instance, we've got heavy and Spiraea japonica.

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01:16:35,453 --> 01:16:37,853
Speaker 10: And if you look at those three things from three

1497
01:16:37,893 --> 01:16:41,573
Speaker 10: different angles with all the others, you suddenly realize that

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01:16:41,693 --> 01:16:46,053
Speaker 10: your garden has many, many different angles to work with.

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Speaker 10: And that is exactly how you put them together.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. Yeah, and those are great pot I was like,

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01:16:51,573 --> 01:16:53,253
Speaker 2: you say, we're going to make sure those are up

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01:16:53,293 --> 01:16:57,173
Speaker 2: on the news talks whips that. Yeah, oh yeah, that's great,

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01:16:57,213 --> 01:17:00,413
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, rhud Hey is it too early

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01:17:00,573 --> 01:17:03,333
Speaker 2: to start getting in like basil and stuff like that

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01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:03,773
Speaker 2: right now?

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01:17:04,893 --> 01:17:09,493
Speaker 10: Now? Do get real? Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah, And I

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01:17:09,613 --> 01:17:12,293
Speaker 10: think I think next week, if you've got apple trees,

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01:17:12,373 --> 01:17:14,773
Speaker 10: I think you should do something about coddling moss and

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01:17:14,853 --> 01:17:17,613
Speaker 10: I will give you the way to go without getting

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01:17:17,693 --> 01:17:20,133
Speaker 10: these blinking caterpillars in your fruit.

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01:17:20,333 --> 01:17:23,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, sir. Great we can't catch your soon

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01:17:23,853 --> 01:17:26,253
Speaker 2: route climb past in the garden for us. This morning,

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01:17:26,293 --> 01:17:31,333
Speaker 2: after eleven o'clock on Newstalks, edb our sustainability expert is

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01:17:31,373 --> 01:17:35,933
Speaker 2: here with his sustainable spring habits, and by that she

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01:17:36,053 --> 01:17:38,333
Speaker 2: means sustainable in every sense. Sustainable as in like all

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01:17:38,373 --> 01:17:40,413
Speaker 2: good for the world, but also sustainable as in you'll

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01:17:40,413 --> 01:17:42,333
Speaker 2: be able to do this start a fresh in spring,

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01:17:42,413 --> 01:17:43,653
Speaker 2: and it's the sort of thing you might be able

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01:17:43,693 --> 01:17:46,093
Speaker 2: to continue. So I should be here with that very shortly.

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01:17:46,293 --> 01:17:49,933
Speaker 2: Our travel correspondent is taking us to Penang in Malaysia

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01:17:50,013 --> 01:17:52,373
Speaker 2: this week, and of course we're going to carve out

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01:17:52,373 --> 01:17:53,693
Speaker 2: a bit of time so we can listen to a

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01:17:53,733 --> 01:17:56,293
Speaker 2: couple of songs from Taylor Swift's brand new album, The

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01:17:56,373 --> 01:17:59,853
Speaker 2: Life of a Showgirl. It's almost eleven o'clock though, News

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01:18:00,013 --> 01:18:02,893
Speaker 2: is next. You're with Jack Tayman. This is Newstalk's EDB.

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01:18:04,853 --> 01:18:08,773
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack keeping the conversation going through the

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01:18:08,853 --> 01:18:10,093
Speaker 1: weekend US talks.

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01:18:10,093 --> 01:18:10,373
Speaker 4: That'd be.

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01:18:33,413 --> 01:18:38,853
Speaker 2: This is Taylor Swift, the certainly most hyped album of

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01:18:38,893 --> 01:18:42,013
Speaker 2: the Year, The Life of the show Girl, was released

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01:18:42,253 --> 01:18:47,133
Speaker 2: at five pm New Zealand time yesterday evening. Simultaneously around

1532
01:18:47,173 --> 01:18:51,813
Speaker 2: the world Swift these were downloading it, streaming it, absorbing it.

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01:18:52,093 --> 01:18:55,133
Speaker 2: That song is called the Life of Ophelia, Fate of

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01:18:55,733 --> 01:18:57,373
Speaker 2: the Fate of Opelia, The Fate of Ophelia.

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01:18:57,413 --> 01:18:57,733
Speaker 8: There you go.

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01:18:59,293 --> 01:19:02,333
Speaker 2: And look. It's not like Taylor Swift needs much publicity,

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01:19:02,573 --> 01:19:06,133
Speaker 2: but she actually did a bit of press, which is

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01:19:06,533 --> 01:19:08,853
Speaker 2: not terribly common for her, Like it's quite unusual for her.

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01:19:08,853 --> 01:19:10,733
Speaker 2: Her doo much priest and the lead up to her

1540
01:19:10,813 --> 01:19:13,093
Speaker 2: new album release for the Life of a show Girl.

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01:19:13,653 --> 01:19:15,773
Speaker 2: So she joined the Red Cat on The Graham Norton

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01:19:15,813 --> 01:19:18,933
Speaker 2: Show last night and showed off her new engagement ring.

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01:19:19,373 --> 01:19:22,133
Speaker 23: And there's a lot to congratulate Tailor Swift about, but

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01:19:22,293 --> 01:19:24,173
Speaker 23: the one that I feel I ought to graduate is

1545
01:19:24,253 --> 01:19:26,253
Speaker 23: the new bit of finger jewelry.

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01:19:26,013 --> 01:19:26,853
Speaker 18: The hardware afread.

1547
01:19:27,013 --> 01:19:32,733
Speaker 2: Yes. She then recounted how the engagement itself took shape.

1548
01:19:32,853 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 2: Of course, with NFL star Trevis Kelcey. She had no

1549
01:19:36,453 --> 01:19:39,053
Speaker 2: idea of the extravagant seat up that was being created

1550
01:19:39,133 --> 01:19:39,573
Speaker 2: around her.

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01:19:39,893 --> 01:19:43,413
Speaker 23: Here's a very quick reminder of the engagement announcement that

1552
01:19:43,533 --> 01:19:46,813
Speaker 23: broke the internet. Was it thirty five million.

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01:19:46,693 --> 01:19:48,933
Speaker 18: Likes or something? That photograph card and is that the

1554
01:19:49,093 --> 01:19:50,653
Speaker 18: actual proposal?

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01:19:51,053 --> 01:19:54,613
Speaker 24: It is actually so he really crushed it when it

1556
01:19:54,693 --> 01:19:59,333
Speaker 24: came to surprising me because we had actually filmed a

1557
01:19:59,413 --> 01:20:02,333
Speaker 24: podcast episode. He has a podcast called New Heights. We

1558
01:20:02,933 --> 01:20:06,693
Speaker 24: filmed the podcast for about three or four hours whatever,

1559
01:20:07,373 --> 01:20:11,413
Speaker 24: and meanwhile behind his house he was having the whole

1560
01:20:12,133 --> 01:20:15,973
Speaker 24: backgarden turned into this wow And one of the things

1561
01:20:16,013 --> 01:20:19,453
Speaker 24: that he put in there very strategically was a wall

1562
01:20:19,573 --> 01:20:23,413
Speaker 24: of hedges that weren't there before. And inside the hedges

1563
01:20:24,053 --> 01:20:27,533
Speaker 24: was my tour photographer hiding in bushes that had not.

1564
01:20:27,573 --> 01:20:28,333
Speaker 18: Previously been there.

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01:20:28,373 --> 01:20:30,653
Speaker 24: It was you went all out, ten out of ten.

1566
01:20:31,573 --> 01:20:35,013
Speaker 2: Putting us to shame. Bro She also joined Greg James

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01:20:35,173 --> 01:20:37,453
Speaker 2: on BBC Radio One for a bit of a chin Weg,

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01:20:37,533 --> 01:20:41,253
Speaker 2: speaking about her previous experiences of writing about heartbreak who

1569
01:20:41,373 --> 01:20:44,813
Speaker 2: worry about how her new found love with Travis Kelsey

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01:20:44,893 --> 01:20:48,093
Speaker 2: might effect her ability to churn out heartbreak anthems.

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01:20:48,373 --> 01:20:51,013
Speaker 25: I used to kind of have this dark fear that

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01:20:51,533 --> 01:20:55,693
Speaker 25: if I ever were truly like happy and free being

1573
01:20:55,773 --> 01:21:00,333
Speaker 25: myself and nurtured by a relationship, that like what happens

1574
01:21:00,333 --> 01:21:02,213
Speaker 25: if the writing just dries up. What I writing is

1575
01:21:02,253 --> 01:21:06,973
Speaker 25: directly tied to my torment and pain, and that's not

1576
01:21:07,093 --> 01:21:07,733
Speaker 25: the case at all.

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01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:10,093
Speaker 2: And we just were catching lightning in a bottle with

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01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:12,613
Speaker 2: this record. Greg also asked if she's keen to hit

1579
01:21:12,653 --> 01:21:15,653
Speaker 2: the road again after her Mammoth eras to her, have.

1580
01:21:15,733 --> 01:21:17,173
Speaker 19: You got the edge for another something soon?

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01:21:17,333 --> 01:21:17,373
Speaker 3: No?

1582
01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:19,533
Speaker 25: No, I'm just gonna I'm gonna be really honest with you,

1583
01:21:19,653 --> 01:21:22,213
Speaker 25: like I am so tired, like when I think about

1584
01:21:22,253 --> 01:21:23,453
Speaker 25: doing it again, because I would want to do.

1585
01:21:23,453 --> 01:21:26,973
Speaker 2: It really, really well again, of course, you know. And

1586
01:21:27,253 --> 01:21:30,293
Speaker 2: she revealed that Travis Kelsey is the first person who

1587
01:21:30,413 --> 01:21:32,253
Speaker 2: hears all her new tracks.

1588
01:21:32,613 --> 01:21:34,933
Speaker 18: When did you play it to Travis?

1589
01:21:35,013 --> 01:21:35,813
Speaker 2: To Big Trav, I.

1590
01:21:35,893 --> 01:21:37,333
Speaker 25: Would play it for him as soon as I'd come

1591
01:21:37,413 --> 01:21:39,413
Speaker 25: back from Sweden, Okay, as soon as they'd come back

1592
01:21:39,413 --> 01:21:41,173
Speaker 25: from Sweden. I just like play it from and I

1593
01:21:41,293 --> 01:21:43,533
Speaker 25: knew that this was the kind of album that he

1594
01:21:43,693 --> 01:21:46,453
Speaker 25: was going to love the most. He's like so supportive

1595
01:21:46,453 --> 01:21:48,573
Speaker 25: of all of it, but like he's a real vibes guy.

1596
01:21:49,573 --> 01:21:52,133
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure there are many million Swifties out there

1597
01:21:52,213 --> 01:21:55,413
Speaker 2: who feel the same way, who regardless of what kind

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01:21:55,453 --> 01:21:58,813
Speaker 2: of music Taylor swift release would be delighted at the

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01:21:58,893 --> 01:22:01,373
Speaker 2: mere fact of its release. Anyway, we are going to

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01:22:01,413 --> 01:22:03,053
Speaker 2: carve out a bit of space and make sure that

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01:22:03,133 --> 01:22:04,853
Speaker 2: we play you a couple of songs from the Life

1602
01:22:04,933 --> 01:22:06,693
Speaker 2: of a show Girl that has been out there in

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01:22:06,773 --> 01:22:10,853
Speaker 2: the world now for eighteen hours or so. So we

1604
01:22:10,853 --> 01:22:13,173
Speaker 2: will pick out a couple of the representative tracks and

1605
01:22:13,213 --> 01:22:15,613
Speaker 2: have a listener. Music reviewer actually went and listened to

1606
01:22:15,773 --> 01:22:18,453
Speaker 2: the Life of a show Girl at an album listen

1607
01:22:18,613 --> 01:22:20,533
Speaker 2: party last night, so he's going to be with us

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01:22:20,613 --> 01:22:23,573
Speaker 2: very soon. Right now, it is eleven, that's past eleven.

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01:22:23,853 --> 01:22:24,693
Speaker 4: Jack t Now.

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01:22:24,733 --> 01:22:27,973
Speaker 2: Sustainability expert Kate Hall is here with us this morning.

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01:22:28,013 --> 01:22:32,053
Speaker 2: She's looking at sustainable spring habits held Kate. Good morning, Jack,

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01:22:32,293 --> 01:22:36,613
Speaker 2: Sustainable spring activities. Spring has sprung. At that time of year,

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01:22:36,733 --> 01:22:40,973
Speaker 2: we all try to reset and I try and have

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01:22:41,093 --> 01:22:43,853
Speaker 2: some slightly better habits maybe as we go into the

1615
01:22:43,893 --> 01:22:45,733
Speaker 2: warmer weather. So you've got a whole series for us

1616
01:22:45,773 --> 01:22:47,973
Speaker 2: this morning. Let's start off with things that you can

1617
01:22:48,053 --> 01:22:50,413
Speaker 2: do in the garden and you reckon, it's a great

1618
01:22:50,453 --> 01:22:51,773
Speaker 2: time to start planting and swapping.

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01:22:52,373 --> 01:22:55,293
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, planting and stopping because I think like

1620
01:22:55,413 --> 01:22:58,573
Speaker 14: I do things with neighbors. If you grow kind of

1621
01:22:58,653 --> 01:23:01,093
Speaker 14: one crop that works really well in your property, you

1622
01:23:01,173 --> 01:23:04,013
Speaker 14: can stop with I stop with my dad, or we

1623
01:23:04,053 --> 01:23:07,933
Speaker 14: stopped seedling, stop probuce. I think springs. It feels like

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01:23:07,973 --> 01:23:10,333
Speaker 14: a good refresh time. Even if you don't you haven't

1625
01:23:10,373 --> 01:23:13,373
Speaker 14: had a garden, maybe consider even just planting a few

1626
01:23:13,453 --> 01:23:17,493
Speaker 14: things like some salad, greens or tomatoes. I've got tomatoes

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01:23:17,533 --> 01:23:22,133
Speaker 14: and basil and peppers on growing at the moment, little seedlings.

1628
01:23:22,613 --> 01:23:24,653
Speaker 14: But as you try that, even just in pots, you know,

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01:23:24,733 --> 01:23:27,373
Speaker 14: if you just have a small space, plant them in

1630
01:23:27,453 --> 01:23:30,413
Speaker 14: pots and start, yeah, seeing what you can swap with

1631
01:23:30,493 --> 01:23:32,293
Speaker 14: neighbors and what you can grow in your own space.

1632
01:23:32,453 --> 01:23:33,933
Speaker 2: So have you got your basil going already?

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01:23:35,013 --> 01:23:37,413
Speaker 14: Yes, yep. I've got to see that that grow really

1634
01:23:37,453 --> 01:23:37,813
Speaker 14: really well.

1635
01:23:38,053 --> 01:23:38,613
Speaker 2: Oh that's good.

1636
01:23:38,653 --> 01:23:38,853
Speaker 4: See.

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01:23:38,893 --> 01:23:42,053
Speaker 2: I usually wait until like the latter half of October,

1638
01:23:42,133 --> 01:23:43,653
Speaker 2: maybe starting a vembit to get in the basil. And

1639
01:23:43,693 --> 01:23:45,693
Speaker 2: but you're putting me to shame. Maybe I need to I.

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01:23:45,733 --> 01:23:48,813
Speaker 14: Haven't put them in the ground yet when I really Yeah.

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01:23:50,053 --> 01:23:56,573
Speaker 2: That's brave. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's good. The it is given.

1642
01:23:57,053 --> 01:23:59,773
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's like totally dry, but

1643
01:24:00,013 --> 01:24:02,493
Speaker 2: given the weather is supposedly starting to improve at the

1644
01:24:02,573 --> 01:24:04,293
Speaker 2: very least the sun has a bit of bite. It

1645
01:24:04,413 --> 01:24:06,373
Speaker 2: is a great time to start hanging out your water.

1646
01:24:07,133 --> 01:24:11,693
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I think people can get into quite become

1647
01:24:11,773 --> 01:24:16,813
Speaker 14: quite reliant on the dry But now it's a good

1648
01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:19,733
Speaker 14: time to think, actually, no, there are some you know,

1649
01:24:19,933 --> 01:24:23,013
Speaker 14: dryer days, and just there are some windy days which

1650
01:24:23,093 --> 01:24:25,733
Speaker 14: can actually be really great at drying things too. So

1651
01:24:26,213 --> 01:24:28,333
Speaker 14: just looking at your kind of habits that you've fallen

1652
01:24:28,413 --> 01:24:31,893
Speaker 14: into with drying things and you know, turning heat pumps

1653
01:24:31,933 --> 01:24:34,333
Speaker 14: on and stuff like that, and thinking, actually, now I

1654
01:24:34,413 --> 01:24:39,453
Speaker 14: can slowly transition out of using those quite energy intensive machines.

1655
01:24:39,653 --> 01:24:41,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good time of year for a spring clean.

1656
01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:44,533
Speaker 2: And if you're spring cleaning, you shouldn't necessarily be checking

1657
01:24:44,613 --> 01:24:45,173
Speaker 2: everything out.

1658
01:24:45,853 --> 01:24:51,053
Speaker 14: No, absolutely nuts, No spring clean responsibly. So if you

1659
01:24:51,133 --> 01:24:54,493
Speaker 14: are donating things, make sure they're clean and repaired. Make

1660
01:24:54,533 --> 01:24:57,333
Speaker 14: sure it's cities and all too. I think a lot

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01:24:57,453 --> 01:25:01,333
Speaker 14: of upstops they don't have heaps of space, and so

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01:25:01,853 --> 01:25:05,133
Speaker 14: donating things now they're good for summer, you know, not

1663
01:25:05,293 --> 01:25:08,253
Speaker 14: donating kind of your winter woollies. Hold on to those

1664
01:25:08,733 --> 01:25:12,013
Speaker 14: and donate them in the future before winter next year.

1665
01:25:12,093 --> 01:25:14,973
Speaker 14: So just being like not treating up shops like a

1666
01:25:15,053 --> 01:25:18,253
Speaker 14: dumping ground or like another landfill site, because I think

1667
01:25:18,333 --> 01:25:21,613
Speaker 14: people just you know, drop and run and kind of

1668
01:25:21,773 --> 01:25:24,333
Speaker 14: hope that people did op shops want that stuff, but

1669
01:25:24,733 --> 01:25:26,853
Speaker 14: reading that they often have like a blackboard out the

1670
01:25:26,893 --> 01:25:30,853
Speaker 14: front with things that they will take. So just being

1671
01:25:30,893 --> 01:25:32,813
Speaker 14: really responsible with that when you donate.

1672
01:25:33,813 --> 01:25:35,933
Speaker 2: I think that's that's a great point. So this time

1673
01:25:35,933 --> 01:25:39,333
Speaker 2: of year is for the first time in about five months,

1674
01:25:39,733 --> 01:25:42,453
Speaker 2: the time when my local park doesn't have these massive

1675
01:25:42,533 --> 01:25:44,493
Speaker 2: puddles right in the middle of it and like that

1676
01:25:44,653 --> 01:25:47,613
Speaker 2: right in the middle of the walkways and everyone likes

1677
01:25:47,653 --> 01:25:49,933
Speaker 2: to go yeah, which means it's a great time for

1678
01:25:49,973 --> 01:25:50,413
Speaker 2: a picnic.

1679
01:25:51,213 --> 01:25:54,893
Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely, I think you know, we've all had our

1680
01:25:55,293 --> 01:25:59,533
Speaker 14: Netflix binge watching movies and the depths of winter, and

1681
01:25:59,733 --> 01:26:03,133
Speaker 14: so yeah, grab a picnic, rug, make some homemade snacks

1682
01:26:03,173 --> 01:26:05,173
Speaker 14: and jazz and containers. I think that's a really fun

1683
01:26:05,813 --> 01:26:08,653
Speaker 14: spring activity to remind ourselves that we can get out

1684
01:26:08,693 --> 01:26:10,493
Speaker 14: and about again and start that now.

1685
01:26:10,733 --> 01:26:13,853
Speaker 2: If you're doing your composting and you've been holding off

1686
01:26:13,893 --> 01:26:18,013
Speaker 2: the outdoor composting, now is the perfect time mm hmm.

1687
01:26:18,133 --> 01:26:20,813
Speaker 14: I think and winter even that walk to the compost

1688
01:26:21,093 --> 01:26:26,173
Speaker 14: it can be quite daunting and muddy, So just I

1689
01:26:26,213 --> 01:26:29,533
Speaker 14: think Springer's is a great time to refresh our sustainable

1690
01:26:30,333 --> 01:26:33,693
Speaker 14: hacks and activities. So start in your compast, you know,

1691
01:26:33,773 --> 01:26:37,333
Speaker 14: maybe giving it a good turn, adding some good you know,

1692
01:26:37,533 --> 01:26:41,693
Speaker 14: leaves and cardboard, and just starting that system again. You

1693
01:26:41,773 --> 01:26:45,173
Speaker 14: may need to refresh your composting sign for you're running

1694
01:26:45,213 --> 01:26:49,253
Speaker 14: your house to know how to compost throughout spring and summer.

1695
01:26:50,293 --> 01:26:52,253
Speaker 2: It's also a good time to get on your bike

1696
01:26:52,373 --> 01:26:54,213
Speaker 2: if you haven't been over winter, and to try and

1697
01:26:54,573 --> 01:26:56,493
Speaker 2: reset the old transport habits.

1698
01:26:57,213 --> 01:26:59,533
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, I mean there's some troopers, so I see

1699
01:26:59,653 --> 01:27:03,613
Speaker 14: out raincoats and all sorts of My friend Bella has

1700
01:27:03,653 --> 01:27:06,653
Speaker 14: been amazing at continuing to not have a car actually

1701
01:27:06,693 --> 01:27:09,213
Speaker 14: all winter and walking and biking. But I think for

1702
01:27:09,613 --> 01:27:12,893
Speaker 14: those who it just wasn't possible over winter. Starting to

1703
01:27:14,253 --> 01:27:16,373
Speaker 14: get the bike out. You take the bike to the

1704
01:27:16,453 --> 01:27:19,533
Speaker 14: bike shop and give them a waft as it were,

1705
01:27:20,093 --> 01:27:23,373
Speaker 14: and get your rain coats, hang them up, but maybe

1706
01:27:23,573 --> 01:27:26,693
Speaker 14: take them just in case. The spring can be quite wet.

1707
01:27:26,933 --> 01:27:27,133
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1708
01:27:27,253 --> 01:27:29,893
Speaker 2: Nice, And last but not least, on your tips for

1709
01:27:30,253 --> 01:27:33,133
Speaker 2: getting organized the spring and getting more sustainable the spring.

1710
01:27:33,573 --> 01:27:36,253
Speaker 2: Local volunteering so it's not just a spring clean at home,

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01:27:36,333 --> 01:27:38,453
Speaker 2: but maybe a spring clean in your community.

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01:27:39,173 --> 01:27:41,573
Speaker 14: Yeah. I think it's another thing to get out and

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01:27:41,653 --> 01:27:45,093
Speaker 14: about to do. Beach clean apps. They can be volunteer

1714
01:27:45,173 --> 01:27:47,933
Speaker 14: like planting days at local gardens, which is a great

1715
01:27:47,973 --> 01:27:50,453
Speaker 14: way to actually learn tips to implement in your own

1716
01:27:50,493 --> 01:27:54,213
Speaker 14: garden too. So yeah, another spring activity as well as

1717
01:27:54,253 --> 01:27:55,253
Speaker 14: the eco picnics.

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01:27:56,333 --> 01:27:56,573
Speaker 8: Love it.

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01:27:56,693 --> 01:27:59,733
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much, Kate. Great tips. As always,

1720
01:27:59,733 --> 01:28:02,613
Speaker 2: we're going to make sure your sustainable springtime tips are

1721
01:28:02,653 --> 01:28:04,373
Speaker 2: on the news talks you'd be website. You can find

1722
01:28:04,413 --> 01:28:06,293
Speaker 2: Kate of course on the social media platforms by suit

1723
01:28:06,693 --> 01:28:08,973
Speaker 2: Ethically Kate, and we will see you again soon.

1724
01:28:09,773 --> 01:28:10,013
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1725
01:28:10,533 --> 01:28:12,093
Speaker 2: In a few minutes on news Talk here'd be a

1726
01:28:12,173 --> 01:28:14,653
Speaker 2: travel correspondence here this week he's taking a dip with

1727
01:28:14,773 --> 01:28:17,973
Speaker 2: Penang in Malaysia. Seventeen past eleven.

1728
01:28:18,533 --> 01:28:21,773
Speaker 1: Travel with Windy WU Tours Where the World is Yours

1729
01:28:21,933 --> 01:28:22,413
Speaker 1: for Now.

1730
01:28:22,693 --> 01:28:25,613
Speaker 2: Travel corresponder Mike Yardley is taking us to Penang in

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01:28:25,733 --> 01:28:28,893
Speaker 2: Malaysia this morning. Good morning, Mike, Good morning Jack.

1732
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:32,213
Speaker 3: I wish I was still there. The weather is atrocious.

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01:28:32,373 --> 01:28:37,533
Speaker 2: Oh really back home? Oh yeah yeah, absolutely, yeah. Yeah,

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01:28:38,653 --> 01:28:41,293
Speaker 2: So the island of Penang is kind of a it's

1735
01:28:41,333 --> 01:28:43,853
Speaker 2: kind of a side trip if you're traveling through southeastdaysiare right, like,

1736
01:28:43,893 --> 01:28:46,773
Speaker 2: it's very relatively, relatively convenient and easy to get to.

1737
01:28:47,933 --> 01:28:51,613
Speaker 3: Definitely. Yeah, it's just a few hours drive from Kuala Lumpa.

1738
01:28:51,813 --> 01:28:53,573
Speaker 3: And in fact, if you do want to drive it,

1739
01:28:53,693 --> 01:28:56,533
Speaker 3: it is so cool because the island of Panang has

1740
01:28:56,613 --> 01:28:59,573
Speaker 3: pinned to the Malay Peninsula and you've got some seriously

1741
01:28:59,693 --> 01:29:03,293
Speaker 3: impressive bridges spanning the Strait of Malacca. There is one

1742
01:29:03,373 --> 01:29:09,293
Speaker 3: bridge jack that stretches seventeen wow across the water. That's

1743
01:29:09,413 --> 01:29:13,173
Speaker 3: quite a drive if you're in Bangkok. It's just a

1744
01:29:13,293 --> 01:29:17,533
Speaker 3: ninety minute flight from Singapore, just sixty minutes away. In fact,

1745
01:29:17,573 --> 01:29:20,293
Speaker 3: my taxi driver remarked to me how a lot of

1746
01:29:20,333 --> 01:29:23,493
Speaker 3: Singaporeans they'll fly to the island of Panang for lunch

1747
01:29:23,533 --> 01:29:26,493
Speaker 3: and then head home. So if you were heading to

1748
01:29:26,693 --> 01:29:30,213
Speaker 3: Southeast Asia, maybe stopping over en route to Europe or

1749
01:29:30,253 --> 01:29:33,213
Speaker 3: on the way home, Panang is a really stress free

1750
01:29:33,333 --> 01:29:33,813
Speaker 3: side trip.

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01:29:33,933 --> 01:29:34,093
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:29:34,253 --> 01:29:36,853
Speaker 2: Nice. Where would you recommend staying? Where's best to stay?

1753
01:29:37,933 --> 01:29:41,013
Speaker 3: Well, the major tourist district is in Georgetown, although the

1754
01:29:41,093 --> 01:29:45,693
Speaker 3: widest city around, the historic core has exploded in growth

1755
01:29:45,773 --> 01:29:47,773
Speaker 3: in recent years. It just blew me away when I

1756
01:29:47,853 --> 01:29:50,453
Speaker 3: was there a couple of weeks ago. So it's really busy,

1757
01:29:51,013 --> 01:29:54,293
Speaker 3: lots of traffic, congestion. They're groaning under the weight of

1758
01:29:54,373 --> 01:29:57,493
Speaker 3: their congestion. It is an urban jungle. So I would

1759
01:29:57,573 --> 01:30:02,373
Speaker 3: strongly suggest you mix Georgetown with the beach and base

1760
01:30:02,453 --> 01:30:05,933
Speaker 3: yourself in the north of the island at Batu Faringi,

1761
01:30:05,973 --> 01:30:09,613
Speaker 3: which I looks the Endermin Sea. It's one of Malaysia's

1762
01:30:09,653 --> 01:30:13,933
Speaker 3: best beaches. Bartuferingi and I loved the hard Rock Hotel.

1763
01:30:14,253 --> 01:30:16,533
Speaker 3: It's the first hard rock I've actually stayed at.

1764
01:30:17,053 --> 01:30:20,013
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, right, I mean hard rock is like quite

1765
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:21,213
Speaker 2: popular in Asia, right.

1766
01:30:22,293 --> 01:30:25,853
Speaker 3: It's really interesting because yeah, that the hotel brand hasn't

1767
01:30:26,093 --> 01:30:29,733
Speaker 3: penetrated Australasia. There is a hard rock cafe in Sydney,

1768
01:30:29,813 --> 01:30:32,093
Speaker 3: but not a hotel in our part of the world.

1769
01:30:32,173 --> 01:30:36,013
Speaker 3: But across Asia, the Middle Eastern Europe, they have just

1770
01:30:36,413 --> 01:30:39,853
Speaker 3: like grown like wildfire, bit like North and South America.

1771
01:30:40,253 --> 01:30:43,173
Speaker 3: But the memorabilia at the hard Rock Pananjic it is

1772
01:30:43,453 --> 01:30:47,813
Speaker 3: so absorbing. I felt very, very excited with the upcoming

1773
01:30:47,893 --> 01:30:50,693
Speaker 3: release of Taylor's new album, and I was standing in

1774
01:30:50,733 --> 01:30:54,053
Speaker 3: front of the glass cabinet looking at Taylor's stage costumes.

1775
01:30:54,453 --> 01:30:57,613
Speaker 3: So I think that's as close as I'll ever get

1776
01:30:57,653 --> 01:31:01,573
Speaker 3: to the real thing. So yeah, the rock star. Theming,

1777
01:31:01,973 --> 01:31:04,773
Speaker 3: obviously at these hard rock hotels is laid on thick.

1778
01:31:05,173 --> 01:31:08,213
Speaker 3: The best thing though about the Penanga Post is the poll.

1779
01:31:08,373 --> 01:31:11,693
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's the biggest pool in northern Malaysia.

1780
01:31:12,213 --> 01:31:16,813
Speaker 3: So it's this free form sprawler of a pool and

1781
01:31:16,973 --> 01:31:20,453
Speaker 3: it starts off like a shallow lagoon with a sandy base,

1782
01:31:20,893 --> 01:31:23,373
Speaker 3: which I thought's quite clever for a pool, and then

1783
01:31:23,413 --> 01:31:28,373
Speaker 3: it just seamlessly transitions into an ocean blue deep pool

1784
01:31:28,493 --> 01:31:32,773
Speaker 3: with underwater rock music. It is utterly addictive. Yeah. I

1785
01:31:32,973 --> 01:31:34,693
Speaker 3: was marinateing many hours in that year.

1786
01:31:34,853 --> 01:31:37,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it certainly sounds like an experience. So that's

1787
01:31:37,373 --> 01:31:40,133
Speaker 2: in the north, right, the hotels in the north. How

1788
01:31:40,213 --> 01:31:41,293
Speaker 2: far away is Georgetown?

1789
01:31:41,333 --> 01:31:44,333
Speaker 3: Then it's only a thirty minute drive. And this is

1790
01:31:44,413 --> 01:31:47,453
Speaker 3: the really good thing for Kiwi's. The New Zealand dollar

1791
01:31:47,573 --> 01:31:50,773
Speaker 3: serves up a lot of ring its, so bang for buck,

1792
01:31:51,213 --> 01:31:54,053
Speaker 3: Malaysia is as cheap as chips. So it was about

1793
01:31:54,053 --> 01:31:57,253
Speaker 3: ten dollars to get a taxi to Georgetown from Buttu

1794
01:31:57,333 --> 01:32:01,333
Speaker 3: Feringhi in Malaysia, they use Grab, they don't do Uber,

1795
01:32:01,533 --> 01:32:05,653
Speaker 3: so download the Grab app and grab as you go

1796
01:32:05,813 --> 01:32:09,013
Speaker 3: to The Doric hert of Georgetown is a cracker. The

1797
01:32:09,093 --> 01:32:12,893
Speaker 3: widest city, as I said, a jungle, but the historic

1798
01:32:13,133 --> 01:32:17,733
Speaker 3: core absolutely stunning. It's all UNESCO protected, so they've got

1799
01:32:17,933 --> 01:32:25,813
Speaker 3: seventeen hundred heritage shop houses guarded by that UNSCO protection, temples,

1800
01:32:26,293 --> 01:32:31,053
Speaker 3: a sizzling dining scene, awesome street art, great shopping. There

1801
01:32:31,133 --> 01:32:33,933
Speaker 3: is the super cool street Jack where you've got a mosque,

1802
01:32:34,373 --> 01:32:38,853
Speaker 3: a Hindu temple, a Buddhist temple, and two Christian churches

1803
01:32:39,133 --> 01:32:43,413
Speaker 3: all shoulder to shoulder. So it is the ultimate religious

1804
01:32:43,453 --> 01:32:47,453
Speaker 3: and cultural melting pot. And yeah, I just think Georgetown

1805
01:32:47,573 --> 01:32:51,053
Speaker 3: is one of those places that just instantly casts you

1806
01:32:51,373 --> 01:32:53,613
Speaker 3: under its spell. So good to dip in and out of.

1807
01:32:53,813 --> 01:32:55,293
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. What about hiking?

1808
01:32:56,693 --> 01:32:59,813
Speaker 3: Yes, back at Bartu Faringhi. The really good thing about

1809
01:32:59,853 --> 01:33:02,933
Speaker 3: the beach is that it's backed by Pinnang National Park.

1810
01:33:03,133 --> 01:33:07,973
Speaker 3: So this park teeming with birds long tailed MCX. You

1811
01:33:08,053 --> 01:33:12,533
Speaker 3: could easily spend all day on its hiking trails and

1812
01:33:12,693 --> 01:33:15,733
Speaker 3: only run into a handful of people. It is remarkably

1813
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:21,053
Speaker 3: underpopulated by tourists. The other really good option closer to

1814
01:33:21,133 --> 01:33:24,373
Speaker 3: Georgetown if you would like to, as I did, refresh

1815
01:33:24,493 --> 01:33:28,333
Speaker 3: your fetish for for niculus, take a jaunt up the

1816
01:33:28,413 --> 01:33:32,093
Speaker 3: Penang Hell railways. It's just out of Georgetown, and the

1817
01:33:32,173 --> 01:33:35,373
Speaker 3: summit has been a hilltop retreat from the steamy heat

1818
01:33:35,573 --> 01:33:38,933
Speaker 3: for centuries. But aside from the awesome buse you get

1819
01:33:39,013 --> 01:33:43,173
Speaker 3: up there, they have got fabulous hiking trails leading off

1820
01:33:43,213 --> 01:33:45,973
Speaker 3: the summit to get your full of jungle greens. Really

1821
01:33:46,013 --> 01:33:47,093
Speaker 3: good spot to check out.

1822
01:33:47,213 --> 01:33:48,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about street eats?

1823
01:33:48,373 --> 01:33:49,053
Speaker 8: What did you like?

1824
01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:49,813
Speaker 2: What hit the spot?

1825
01:33:50,693 --> 01:33:50,893
Speaker 10: Oh?

1826
01:33:51,093 --> 01:33:54,133
Speaker 3: My goodness, so many choices. Jack, and I've got really

1827
01:33:54,173 --> 01:33:56,773
Speaker 3: good night markets at Bartu Feringi as well. So like

1828
01:33:56,893 --> 01:33:59,293
Speaker 3: beyond the hotel, you can just throll along the beach

1829
01:33:59,373 --> 01:34:02,933
Speaker 3: and noth away as you watch a sun set into

1830
01:34:02,973 --> 01:34:06,893
Speaker 3: the and ofmen CEA chark Wait towel is extra good

1831
01:34:06,933 --> 01:34:13,213
Speaker 3: and Panang because the Panang version is particularly charred in aromatic.

1832
01:34:13,733 --> 01:34:16,773
Speaker 3: So there rice noodles of fried in high heat with

1833
01:34:16,893 --> 01:34:20,213
Speaker 3: prawns and cockles and eggs and bean sprouts, and they

1834
01:34:20,333 --> 01:34:24,613
Speaker 3: do it in this very fiery display over a charcoal fire.

1835
01:34:25,893 --> 01:34:31,453
Speaker 3: Panang's Assam luxA also really good, sour and spicy noodles

1836
01:34:31,893 --> 01:34:35,693
Speaker 3: with a tangy fish fish broth, and your bowl of

1837
01:34:35,893 --> 01:34:42,653
Speaker 3: thick rice noodles just brims with finely sliced onions and cucumber, pineapple,

1838
01:34:43,013 --> 01:34:48,853
Speaker 3: red chilies, mint torch, ginger buds. And then I noticed

1839
01:34:48,893 --> 01:34:51,093
Speaker 3: the locals had a bit of porn paste, which is

1840
01:34:51,133 --> 01:34:54,973
Speaker 3: a nice sweet touch, really zesty dish. And by the way,

1841
01:34:55,173 --> 01:34:57,493
Speaker 3: if you need to cool down, have you ever come

1842
01:34:57,573 --> 01:35:05,213
Speaker 3: across chen dole cnd L. So it's either pronounced chen

1843
01:35:05,373 --> 01:35:08,933
Speaker 3: dole or in some parts of Southeast Asia chun dole,

1844
01:35:09,533 --> 01:35:12,653
Speaker 3: which doesn't sound quite as advertising. I have to say,

1845
01:35:13,053 --> 01:35:15,213
Speaker 3: you don't want a chunder on your chin dole. But

1846
01:35:16,173 --> 01:35:21,253
Speaker 3: chen dole is this sweet, icy delight and it consists

1847
01:35:21,333 --> 01:35:25,613
Speaker 3: of green jelly noodles and they serve it over shaped

1848
01:35:25,653 --> 01:35:30,093
Speaker 3: ice with kidney beans. Then they slather it and copious

1849
01:35:30,093 --> 01:35:32,493
Speaker 3: amounts of coconut milk and palm sugar syrup.

1850
01:35:33,773 --> 01:35:36,893
Speaker 2: I mean that does so good. Yeah, although I'm looking

1851
01:35:36,893 --> 01:35:39,053
Speaker 2: at photos of it, it looks I mean it does

1852
01:35:39,133 --> 01:35:41,173
Speaker 2: look really different.

1853
01:35:41,613 --> 01:35:41,813
Speaker 26: Yeah.

1854
01:35:41,893 --> 01:35:46,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, busy, that's a good busy and buzzy. It's

1855
01:35:46,693 --> 01:35:51,693
Speaker 2: like quite a verdant green ah. Yeah, yes, wow, I

1856
01:35:51,813 --> 01:35:55,893
Speaker 2: can't I'm look famously open minded, of course, and especially

1857
01:35:55,893 --> 01:35:57,493
Speaker 2: when it comes to dessert. So that does sound like

1858
01:35:57,533 --> 01:36:00,013
Speaker 2: a bit of meat, Yeah it does.

1859
01:36:00,253 --> 01:36:03,693
Speaker 3: It does call you down, that's the key thing. You'll

1860
01:36:03,693 --> 01:36:06,053
Speaker 3: get a sugarhead as well. But it does call the body,

1861
01:36:06,373 --> 01:36:09,653
Speaker 3: and you need that obviously in places like Panang. Yeah,

1862
01:36:09,893 --> 01:36:10,813
Speaker 3: so I wonder why.

1863
01:36:10,773 --> 01:36:13,253
Speaker 2: You see that people fly up from Singapore to go

1864
01:36:13,413 --> 01:36:15,973
Speaker 2: for lunch. I wonder if you get in Panang that

1865
01:36:16,053 --> 01:36:18,373
Speaker 2: you can't get in Singapore. You know, maybe it's just

1866
01:36:18,413 --> 01:36:20,813
Speaker 2: that it's just for the excursion or something, because I mean,

1867
01:36:20,813 --> 01:36:22,893
Speaker 2: they're they're very close as the crow flies, aren't they.

1868
01:36:24,493 --> 01:36:25,773
Speaker 2: And the food nets are pretty good.

1869
01:36:25,893 --> 01:36:29,093
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and the food is really good in Singapore

1870
01:36:29,093 --> 01:36:32,493
Speaker 3: obviously as well. But yeah, I just noticed that a

1871
01:36:32,613 --> 01:36:35,413
Speaker 3: lot of just as you will find in Singapore and Penang,

1872
01:36:35,493 --> 01:36:37,693
Speaker 3: they just seem to have a bit more heat to them,

1873
01:36:37,813 --> 01:36:39,973
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, more spice content.

1874
01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:40,573
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1875
01:36:40,813 --> 01:36:42,453
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds like a bit of me. I love

1876
01:36:42,613 --> 01:36:47,733
Speaker 2: Malaysian food. I just think it's so good. Okay, that's fantastic, mate,

1877
01:36:47,853 --> 01:36:49,693
Speaker 2: And like you say, a really good option for a

1878
01:36:49,733 --> 01:36:51,773
Speaker 2: little stopover, and maybe if you're making way through Asia,

1879
01:36:51,893 --> 01:36:54,573
Speaker 2: really convenient to get to and just a little bit different.

1880
01:36:54,653 --> 01:36:58,213
Speaker 2: So thank you. All of Mike's tips on traveling and

1881
01:36:58,293 --> 01:37:00,533
Speaker 2: tripping through Penang will be up on the News Talks.

1882
01:37:00,573 --> 01:37:02,933
Speaker 2: He'd be website and we'll catch up with him again

1883
01:37:02,973 --> 01:37:06,813
Speaker 2: for another mouthwatering destination, no doubt this time next week.

1884
01:37:07,093 --> 01:37:09,253
Speaker 2: This is coming up to eleven thirty before midday on

1885
01:37:09,373 --> 01:37:11,093
Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be We're going to tell you about

1886
01:37:11,093 --> 01:37:14,533
Speaker 2: the latest installment in the Thursday Murder Club series. Our

1887
01:37:14,573 --> 01:37:16,333
Speaker 2: book reviewer will be here with her thoughts on that

1888
01:37:16,493 --> 01:37:19,613
Speaker 2: very shortly. Plus, of course, Taylor Swift's new album. Next up,

1889
01:37:19,653 --> 01:37:21,853
Speaker 2: we'll see what Jason Pie is planning for Weekend Sport

1890
01:37:21,933 --> 01:37:23,053
Speaker 2: this afternoon.

1891
01:37:26,733 --> 01:37:30,613
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1892
01:37:31,093 --> 01:37:32,133
Speaker 1: on News TALKSB.

1893
01:37:51,893 --> 01:37:55,453
Speaker 2: That's over Light, one of the new songs off Taylor

1894
01:37:55,493 --> 01:37:57,893
Speaker 2: Swift's new album. We'll listen to a bit more of

1895
01:37:57,933 --> 01:38:00,533
Speaker 2: the album before midday. It's is going to eleven thirty though.

1896
01:38:00,613 --> 01:38:03,173
Speaker 2: Jason Pine is on Weekend Sport this afternoon, counting down

1897
01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:05,333
Speaker 2: to the second Leader's Load this evening. I started off

1898
01:38:05,373 --> 01:38:09,053
Speaker 2: the show with a win. Poney, I'm gonna reiterate my

1899
01:38:09,133 --> 01:38:11,613
Speaker 2: wins to you. Honestly, who's in charge of scheduling these things.

1900
01:38:12,013 --> 01:38:14,173
Speaker 2: Who is a charger? So you had the AFL Grand

1901
01:38:14,213 --> 01:38:16,773
Speaker 2: Final last weekend clashed with the rugby, you had the

1902
01:38:16,853 --> 01:38:19,893
Speaker 2: Warriors playoff clashing with the rugby, and now you've got

1903
01:38:20,013 --> 01:38:22,453
Speaker 2: a ten to forty five pm kickoff in Perth. So

1904
01:38:22,613 --> 01:38:25,133
Speaker 2: five forty five local time kickoff, which I get is

1905
01:38:25,213 --> 01:38:28,173
Speaker 2: relatively convenient, probably for people in Perth, But I just

1906
01:38:28,213 --> 01:38:29,653
Speaker 2: don't see why it couldn't have been two o'clock in

1907
01:38:29,653 --> 01:38:30,173
Speaker 2: the afternoon.

1908
01:38:30,493 --> 01:38:32,093
Speaker 22: Well true, Or they could have had it at seven

1909
01:38:32,093 --> 01:38:35,173
Speaker 22: o'clock at night. Couldn't they would be up even later? Lot,

1910
01:38:35,253 --> 01:38:38,653
Speaker 22: I Yes, I guess scheduling is almost done with it.

1911
01:38:38,733 --> 01:38:41,013
Speaker 22: You know, an isolation of other things, isn't it, Jack?

1912
01:38:41,053 --> 01:38:44,613
Speaker 2: And you're right, that's a suit. You know, it's a bit.

1913
01:38:44,693 --> 01:38:45,093
Speaker 8: It is a bit.

1914
01:38:45,133 --> 01:38:48,133
Speaker 22: Although at least we'll have weather permitting the cricket to

1915
01:38:48,213 --> 01:38:51,333
Speaker 22: get us to choose to ten forty five tonight. That's

1916
01:38:51,333 --> 01:38:53,133
Speaker 22: if a dozen rain anymore in Mount Morganui.

1917
01:38:53,413 --> 01:38:55,973
Speaker 2: Look, I I'm actually very curious to see how this

1918
01:38:56,093 --> 01:38:56,893
Speaker 2: game goes tonight.

1919
01:38:56,933 --> 01:38:58,733
Speaker 22: No Bledislow on the line, but I don't think that'll

1920
01:38:59,253 --> 01:39:02,853
Speaker 22: that'll take away so much motivation for Australia. Anyway, they

1921
01:39:03,333 --> 01:39:05,893
Speaker 22: got to within two points with ten minutes ago last

1922
01:39:05,933 --> 01:39:08,493
Speaker 22: weekend of breaking that Eden Park, who do They've got

1923
01:39:08,493 --> 01:39:10,773
Speaker 22: a couple of players back. I'm just really curious to

1924
01:39:10,853 --> 01:39:12,973
Speaker 22: see how the All Blacks go. I mean it's been

1925
01:39:13,293 --> 01:39:17,653
Speaker 22: it's been just inconsistency through the Rugby Championship. Beat Argentina,

1926
01:39:17,733 --> 01:39:19,573
Speaker 22: then lose to them, beats South Africa, they lose to them,

1927
01:39:19,613 --> 01:39:22,373
Speaker 22: beat Australia. Can they go back to back tonight? Look,

1928
01:39:22,413 --> 01:39:25,533
Speaker 22: it's it's not beyond the realms of possibility. They'll lose

1929
01:39:25,573 --> 01:39:27,213
Speaker 22: tonight the All Blacks. I don't think they will, but

1930
01:39:27,293 --> 01:39:29,613
Speaker 22: they could. And then all of a sudden we're in

1931
01:39:29,693 --> 01:39:34,333
Speaker 22: this situation where consistency just remains elusive as we head

1932
01:39:34,373 --> 01:39:37,213
Speaker 22: towards the back end of the second year of Scott

1933
01:39:37,293 --> 01:39:41,893
Speaker 22: Robinson's coaching tenure. So look that the side's interesting. Quinta

1934
01:39:41,973 --> 01:39:45,253
Speaker 22: pyre and at center, that is interesting. Peter Larkeye ahead

1935
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:47,653
Speaker 22: of Wallace to Titi at number eight, that's interesting, no

1936
01:39:47,773 --> 01:39:50,053
Speaker 22: boat and Barratt's a Damien McKenzie for just a second

1937
01:39:50,133 --> 01:39:52,573
Speaker 22: time this year gets to run the cutter at ten

1938
01:39:53,533 --> 01:39:55,733
Speaker 22: Leicster fighting a nukel back in I'm looking forward to

1939
01:39:55,773 --> 01:39:58,813
Speaker 22: seeing how he goes plenty, even Triggue, I think there's

1940
01:39:58,893 --> 01:40:01,293
Speaker 22: enough to keep us up, Oh for sure, ten forty five.

1941
01:40:01,453 --> 01:40:04,093
Speaker 2: Jack, I would say, certainly, no doubt about that. So

1942
01:40:04,213 --> 01:40:08,453
Speaker 2: then the Dame Nolding toto a situation drags on. What

1943
01:40:08,573 --> 01:40:09,733
Speaker 2: have you made of all of that?

1944
01:40:09,893 --> 01:40:14,333
Speaker 22: This week just I mean, just just a shambles, really, Jack,

1945
01:40:14,893 --> 01:40:16,213
Speaker 22: I mean, here we are like that, We've got to

1946
01:40:16,213 --> 01:40:18,453
Speaker 22: play Australia in less than two weeks. That team's supposed

1947
01:40:18,493 --> 01:40:21,333
Speaker 22: to be named on Monday and get together back end

1948
01:40:21,333 --> 01:40:23,573
Speaker 22: of next week, and we still don't know who's going

1949
01:40:23,613 --> 01:40:26,533
Speaker 22: to be coaching them. It just seems I don't know,

1950
01:40:26,853 --> 01:40:28,493
Speaker 22: like it's just dragging on and on.

1951
01:40:28,653 --> 01:40:29,133
Speaker 8: And I know.

1952
01:40:29,493 --> 01:40:31,933
Speaker 22: Employment disputes and you know in the real world and

1953
01:40:32,013 --> 01:40:33,733
Speaker 22: the corporate world, and I guess this is no different.

1954
01:40:33,813 --> 01:40:36,173
Speaker 22: Do tend to take some time. There's a lot of emotion,

1955
01:40:36,373 --> 01:40:39,293
Speaker 22: there's a lot of different sides to be heard. Mediation

1956
01:40:39,653 --> 01:40:42,653
Speaker 22: does tend to take time. But at some point we

1957
01:40:42,813 --> 01:40:44,573
Speaker 22: just have to know what the future looks like. If

1958
01:40:44,653 --> 01:40:47,453
Speaker 22: Dave Nolin is staying, then make that decision. Get her

1959
01:40:47,453 --> 01:40:49,493
Speaker 22: back in there and we can plan ahead. If she's

1960
01:40:49,573 --> 01:40:53,373
Speaker 22: not same thing, she's not coming back, who's taking this

1961
01:40:53,453 --> 01:40:55,893
Speaker 22: team forward, who's taking them to the Commonwealth Games next year,

1962
01:40:55,893 --> 01:40:58,573
Speaker 22: all that stuff, But there's just so much uncertainy. I

1963
01:40:58,733 --> 01:41:01,013
Speaker 22: actually think the most worrying point of the whole thing

1964
01:41:01,413 --> 01:41:04,613
Speaker 22: has been the silence from Netbourne, New Zealand on any

1965
01:41:04,693 --> 01:41:07,493
Speaker 22: aspect of this. You know, are the what are the

1966
01:41:07,573 --> 01:41:10,933
Speaker 22: things that are being investigated? What is the plan in

1967
01:41:11,133 --> 01:41:14,413
Speaker 22: scenarios A, B and C? And you know, really I

1968
01:41:14,493 --> 01:41:16,493
Speaker 22: think we've been left very much in the dark by

1969
01:41:16,573 --> 01:41:19,493
Speaker 22: all of this, which which has been the most unhelpful

1970
01:41:19,533 --> 01:41:20,253
Speaker 22: thing of all for me.

1971
01:41:20,693 --> 01:41:22,773
Speaker 2: I totally agree. Well said, hey, looking forward to the

1972
01:41:22,773 --> 01:41:25,493
Speaker 2: show this afternoon, and don't forget, of course, the News

1973
01:41:25,533 --> 01:41:27,813
Speaker 2: Talk's head p team are going to have a live

1974
01:41:27,933 --> 01:41:30,133
Speaker 2: call of the All Blacks versus the Wallabies in Perth

1975
01:41:30,213 --> 01:41:32,333
Speaker 2: ten forty five pm tonight is kick off. That'll be

1976
01:41:32,373 --> 01:41:34,573
Speaker 2: live on Newstalks. He'd be gold Sport as well, of course.

1977
01:41:34,693 --> 01:41:36,733
Speaker 2: Right now it is twenty five to twelve.

1978
01:41:38,053 --> 01:41:42,253
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1979
01:41:42,573 --> 01:41:45,053
Speaker 1: powered by News talks'd B twenty.

1980
01:41:44,813 --> 01:41:48,573
Speaker 2: Three to twelve. Author Richard Osmond's The Thursday Murder Club

1981
01:41:48,693 --> 01:41:52,293
Speaker 2: series has broken all sorts of records are now. The

1982
01:41:52,493 --> 01:41:54,773
Speaker 2: latest edition in the series has just been published. It's

1983
01:41:54,813 --> 01:41:58,693
Speaker 2: called The Impossible Fortune. Katherin Rains, our book reviewer, has

1984
01:41:58,693 --> 01:41:59,533
Speaker 2: read it and she's with us.

1985
01:41:59,573 --> 01:42:03,053
Speaker 26: Now, what do you think, Catherine, Look, I really love

1986
01:42:03,093 --> 01:42:06,013
Speaker 26: the series and I would highly recommend that starting at

1987
01:42:06,053 --> 01:42:08,053
Speaker 26: number one and making a way to this one, which

1988
01:42:08,093 --> 01:42:11,893
Speaker 26: is number five, And the last book ended with a loss,

1989
01:42:11,973 --> 01:42:16,093
Speaker 26: and Possible Fortune picks up some time after that has happened,

1990
01:42:16,213 --> 01:42:18,733
Speaker 26: and so you're back with Elizabeth and Ibriam and Joyce

1991
01:42:18,813 --> 01:42:22,013
Speaker 26: and Ron and the characters are larger and lighter than life,

1992
01:42:22,133 --> 01:42:25,413
Speaker 26: and they're relatable and they're human and they have great depth.

1993
01:42:25,893 --> 01:42:28,133
Speaker 26: And in this book there's a wedding on the horizon

1994
01:42:28,733 --> 01:42:30,853
Speaker 26: and the Thursday Murder Club. We're all kind of sort

1995
01:42:30,853 --> 01:42:33,173
Speaker 26: of taking life as it comes. Elizabeth is sort of

1996
01:42:33,213 --> 01:42:36,253
Speaker 26: deep in her grief, and Joyce is preparing for her

1997
01:42:36,333 --> 01:42:38,853
Speaker 26: daughter Joan's wedding, and Ron and Abraham are just kind

1998
01:42:38,893 --> 01:42:41,453
Speaker 26: of just there and as friendly as ever. But then

1999
01:42:41,533 --> 01:42:43,653
Speaker 26: the best man for the wedding goes missing, and there's

2000
01:42:43,693 --> 01:42:45,693
Speaker 26: a lot of money on the line and a crypto

2001
01:42:45,933 --> 01:42:48,533
Speaker 26: scheme and a murder occurs, and then of course, the

2002
01:42:48,613 --> 01:42:51,093
Speaker 26: troops gather to figure out this puzzle, and as that

2003
01:42:51,333 --> 01:42:54,733
Speaker 26: investigation deepens, things arise for Ron as well, and there's

2004
01:42:55,133 --> 01:42:58,573
Speaker 26: all hands on deck to help. And in this edition

2005
01:42:58,653 --> 01:43:01,173
Speaker 26: we also get to know some of their family members better,

2006
01:43:01,213 --> 01:43:05,293
Speaker 26: particularly Ron's grandson Kendrick, who's just very funny. And the

2007
01:43:05,373 --> 01:43:08,373
Speaker 26: group dynamic is very close knit, and the banter is

2008
01:43:08,573 --> 01:43:11,413
Speaker 26: funny and clever, and as a reader, you're there, You're

2009
01:43:11,413 --> 01:43:13,533
Speaker 26: along for the ride, you're really invited in, and it's

2010
01:43:13,613 --> 01:43:16,933
Speaker 26: cozy and full of heart and humor. And as I said,

2011
01:43:16,973 --> 01:43:19,253
Speaker 26: the series is now five books in, and it proceeds

2012
01:43:19,293 --> 01:43:22,773
Speaker 26: to get better and better, and each novel continues to

2013
01:43:22,813 --> 01:43:26,253
Speaker 26: feel really fresh and nuanced, and even the you know,

2014
01:43:26,333 --> 01:43:29,933
Speaker 26: even when those pieces of the plot are seemingly unconnected,

2015
01:43:30,053 --> 01:43:33,293
Speaker 26: all the bits snap into place. And Osmond is brilliant

2016
01:43:33,333 --> 01:43:36,813
Speaker 26: at crafting this group of very captivating characters who are

2017
01:43:36,853 --> 01:43:40,453
Speaker 26: all in their eighties and allstrating this very intricate mysteries

2018
01:43:40,533 --> 01:43:42,733
Speaker 26: and making you laugh and tug on your hate strings.

2019
01:43:42,813 --> 01:43:45,533
Speaker 26: And you know, it's very well written, cozy murder mystery

2020
01:43:45,573 --> 01:43:46,573
Speaker 26: and well worth a reader.

2021
01:43:46,773 --> 01:43:49,813
Speaker 2: Great. So That's the Impossible Fortune by Richard OsmAnd, The

2022
01:43:49,893 --> 01:43:52,813
Speaker 2: latest in the Thursday Murder Club series Sneaks Up tell

2023
01:43:52,893 --> 01:43:55,013
Speaker 2: Us About Culpability by Bruce Holsinger.

2024
01:43:56,053 --> 01:43:59,653
Speaker 26: There's a really interesting dynamic to this novel. It's centered

2025
01:43:59,853 --> 01:44:04,733
Speaker 26: around the collision of what humans think around artificial intelligence

2026
01:44:04,893 --> 01:44:08,213
Speaker 26: and the responsibility for all of those things. And so

2027
01:44:08,333 --> 01:44:10,653
Speaker 26: the Cassidy Shaw family are on a road chip and

2028
01:44:10,893 --> 01:44:13,493
Speaker 26: seventeen year old Charlie is behind the wheel of their

2029
01:44:13,613 --> 01:44:17,933
Speaker 26: autonomous minivan and his dad, Noah's writing alongside, and Charlie's

2030
01:44:18,253 --> 01:44:20,413
Speaker 26: mom and sisters are all writing in the back. And

2031
01:44:20,573 --> 01:44:23,373
Speaker 26: then the van collides with another car and accident is

2032
01:44:23,453 --> 01:44:26,493
Speaker 26: fatal for those in the other car, and so the

2033
01:44:26,573 --> 01:44:30,013
Speaker 26: Castidy shows are attempting to process this and the impact,

2034
01:44:30,533 --> 01:44:32,333
Speaker 26: and they end up heading away for this week long

2035
01:44:32,413 --> 01:44:35,093
Speaker 26: stay in a house in Chesapeake Bay, and Noah, the

2036
01:44:35,213 --> 01:44:37,693
Speaker 26: dad's trying to hold the family together and working out

2037
01:44:37,733 --> 01:44:40,893
Speaker 26: how to protect Charlie. But each of the family members

2038
01:44:40,933 --> 01:44:44,133
Speaker 26: has got secrets, and as those investigations fold, it becomes

2039
01:44:44,373 --> 01:44:46,453
Speaker 26: very clear that the real cause of the accident might

2040
01:44:46,573 --> 01:44:49,173
Speaker 26: not be as simple as human error, and so you

2041
01:44:49,253 --> 01:44:51,893
Speaker 26: get this focus on the dilemmas of Ai Lorelle, who's

2042
01:44:51,933 --> 01:44:55,533
Speaker 26: the mother is a leader in the field of artificial intelligence,

2043
01:44:55,653 --> 01:44:58,693
Speaker 26: and this book raises this very big moral question. You know,

2044
01:44:58,773 --> 01:45:01,693
Speaker 26: when machines start making the decisions where there's the responsibility

2045
01:45:01,773 --> 01:45:02,093
Speaker 26: to lie.

2046
01:45:02,493 --> 01:45:03,133
Speaker 3: Is it on the tech?

2047
01:45:03,253 --> 01:45:04,773
Speaker 26: Is it the people who created it, or is it

2048
01:45:04,893 --> 01:45:07,853
Speaker 26: the people using it. You get this blend of ethics

2049
01:45:07,933 --> 01:45:12,373
Speaker 26: and technology into this very character focused narrative and it's

2050
01:45:12,373 --> 01:45:16,253
Speaker 26: a perfect being between tension and atmosphere and ethics and morality,

2051
01:45:16,333 --> 01:45:18,533
Speaker 26: and the story keeps moving and you end up with

2052
01:45:18,653 --> 01:45:21,213
Speaker 26: this novel has the best of thriller and drama and

2053
01:45:21,893 --> 01:45:24,053
Speaker 26: philosophical inquiry, and it's very well done.

2054
01:45:24,093 --> 01:45:27,613
Speaker 2: Sounds intriguing. It sounds not just as Tobin. It feels

2055
01:45:27,613 --> 01:45:29,093
Speaker 2: like the sort of thing that we are actually going

2056
01:45:29,173 --> 01:45:30,773
Speaker 2: to be grappling with increasingly, right.

2057
01:45:31,613 --> 01:45:34,413
Speaker 26: It feels like something that's five years away. Yeah, like

2058
01:45:34,893 --> 01:45:37,453
Speaker 26: you know, autonomous vehicles are here. I mean, you know,

2059
01:45:38,133 --> 01:45:41,093
Speaker 26: particularly in the States where there's lots of driverless cars

2060
01:45:41,133 --> 01:45:44,053
Speaker 26: and those sorts of things. And yeah, it doesn't feel

2061
01:45:44,253 --> 01:45:47,133
Speaker 26: like it's a whole level removed when you're reading it.

2062
01:45:47,333 --> 01:45:49,813
Speaker 2: No, no, hey, speaking of character, and it's given you

2063
01:45:50,013 --> 01:45:53,053
Speaker 2: are such a king fan of Formula one and motorsport.

2064
01:45:53,133 --> 01:45:54,813
Speaker 2: What did you make of Liam Lawson putting his into

2065
01:45:54,853 --> 01:45:55,533
Speaker 2: the wall this morning.

2066
01:45:56,213 --> 01:45:58,933
Speaker 26: Oh, that was pretty disappointing for him, to be honest,

2067
01:45:59,053 --> 01:46:02,213
Speaker 26: especially after last weekend. So yeah, I'm sure he's feeling

2068
01:46:02,293 --> 01:46:04,493
Speaker 26: pretty sad in that garage right now. Yeah, you know,

2069
01:46:04,893 --> 01:46:07,133
Speaker 26: the weekend's a long time and he's gone. I have

2070
01:46:07,293 --> 01:46:09,533
Speaker 26: every hope he's going to pull it back and be

2071
01:46:09,693 --> 01:46:11,773
Speaker 26: well up there on the grid here.

2072
01:46:11,973 --> 01:46:13,933
Speaker 2: I hope this doesn't time like the damage is too bad.

2073
01:46:14,013 --> 01:46:16,413
Speaker 2: But yeah, but pretty frustrating seeing those sparks this morning.

2074
01:46:16,453 --> 01:46:19,373
Speaker 2: Thank you, Catherine. So Catherine's book for us Culpability with

2075
01:46:19,453 --> 01:46:21,573
Speaker 2: that second one about the self driving car that crashes.

2076
01:46:21,613 --> 01:46:24,853
Speaker 2: The Impossible Fortune by Richard Osmond is her first book.

2077
01:46:24,893 --> 01:46:27,933
Speaker 2: That's The Thursday Murder Club. But we'll make sure both

2078
01:46:27,933 --> 01:46:29,373
Speaker 2: of those are up on the website so you can

2079
01:46:29,493 --> 01:46:32,333
Speaker 2: track them down as well. Eighteen to twelve, Yes, it's

2080
01:46:32,413 --> 01:46:34,453
Speaker 2: tail of time. On News Talks, it'd be a couple

2081
01:46:34,493 --> 01:46:36,573
Speaker 2: of her new songs from the Life of a Showgirl.

2082
01:46:36,773 --> 01:46:40,333
Speaker 1: Next, giving you the inside scoop on all you need

2083
01:46:40,373 --> 01:46:44,013
Speaker 1: to Know this Saturday morning with Jack Team News Talks.

2084
01:46:44,053 --> 01:46:44,333
Speaker 8: It'd be.

2085
01:46:46,373 --> 01:46:49,413
Speaker 2: Times as you're my friends, are we are?

2086
01:46:49,493 --> 01:46:56,893
Speaker 27: We're talking about all the time you've spent on me, honestly,

2087
01:46:59,093 --> 01:47:00,053
Speaker 27: are the ethic.

2088
01:47:01,573 --> 01:47:05,093
Speaker 13: It's actually man's belly.

2089
01:47:05,253 --> 01:47:12,893
Speaker 10: God, thank you.

2090
01:47:14,413 --> 01:47:18,533
Speaker 2: That is actually romantic. Taylors for a song from her

2091
01:47:18,693 --> 01:47:20,533
Speaker 2: new album, The Life of a show Girl. That's a

2092
01:47:20,573 --> 01:47:24,413
Speaker 2: diss track about Charlie x. Ex The man to explain

2093
01:47:24,853 --> 01:47:27,853
Speaker 2: exactly what she's dissing and what that's all about is

2094
01:47:27,933 --> 01:47:30,173
Speaker 2: Chris Schultz. He's listened to the album is with Us Now?

2095
01:47:30,253 --> 01:47:31,933
Speaker 2: And he listened to the album and an album listening

2096
01:47:32,013 --> 01:47:33,413
Speaker 2: party of all places I did.

2097
01:47:33,533 --> 01:47:36,293
Speaker 28: Yeah, six pm last night, I trudged along to Real

2098
01:47:36,493 --> 01:47:39,093
Speaker 28: Groovy Records in Auckland Central. I thought they were going

2099
01:47:39,173 --> 01:47:41,853
Speaker 28: to be cues out the door of teenagers desperate to

2100
01:47:41,933 --> 01:47:43,733
Speaker 28: hear this thing, to get their hands on the vinyl.

2101
01:47:44,293 --> 01:47:46,053
Speaker 19: It wasn't like that. It was quite mu said.

2102
01:47:46,093 --> 01:47:48,653
Speaker 28: There were probably only a quarter to a third of

2103
01:47:48,693 --> 01:47:50,613
Speaker 28: the people that were there for the last one.

2104
01:47:51,013 --> 01:47:53,573
Speaker 19: Yeah, I should explain. I've got eleven year old.

2105
01:47:53,493 --> 01:47:56,253
Speaker 2: Done you feel like you have to explain? This is

2106
01:47:56,253 --> 01:47:58,173
Speaker 2: a no judgment zone Saturday morning.

2107
01:47:58,213 --> 01:48:00,693
Speaker 19: Do you know that I did think about queuing for

2108
01:48:00,773 --> 01:48:01,733
Speaker 19: the glitter face paint?

2109
01:48:01,933 --> 01:48:02,133
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2110
01:48:02,293 --> 01:48:04,573
Speaker 19: You know that was a step two fun.

2111
01:48:05,733 --> 01:48:05,933
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2112
01:48:05,933 --> 01:48:07,373
Speaker 19: The response was quite muted.

2113
01:48:08,573 --> 01:48:11,533
Speaker 28: There wasn't a lot as much screaming from the teenagers

2114
01:48:11,613 --> 01:48:14,093
Speaker 28: this time, and I think that's because the album is

2115
01:48:14,293 --> 01:48:17,013
Speaker 28: it does just feel like a shiny little relic of

2116
01:48:17,133 --> 01:48:17,573
Speaker 28: the past.

2117
01:48:17,653 --> 01:48:19,853
Speaker 19: It's gleaming. She's worked with.

2118
01:48:21,813 --> 01:48:25,173
Speaker 28: The producers who made her biggest songs, Max Martin and Shellback.

2119
01:48:25,333 --> 01:48:27,453
Speaker 28: They're the ones who helped her write the songs that

2120
01:48:27,613 --> 01:48:31,093
Speaker 28: reverberated around stadiums all through the eras to her. So

2121
01:48:31,253 --> 01:48:34,773
Speaker 28: she's going back to that, the reputation era, that kind

2122
01:48:34,853 --> 01:48:38,653
Speaker 28: of thing, and it doesn't always work because things have

2123
01:48:38,773 --> 01:48:40,173
Speaker 28: moved on a bit and pop. You know, if you

2124
01:48:40,213 --> 01:48:44,333
Speaker 28: look at Charlie XCX's Brat, if you look at Lord's Virgin,

2125
01:48:44,453 --> 01:48:47,973
Speaker 28: these are messy pop albums there. They're all over the place.

2126
01:48:48,613 --> 01:48:50,133
Speaker 28: They're sort of working themselves out.

2127
01:48:50,173 --> 01:48:50,973
Speaker 8: And this is not that.

2128
01:48:51,133 --> 01:48:54,053
Speaker 28: This is like a shiny, gleaming car, new car sitting

2129
01:48:54,093 --> 01:48:58,173
Speaker 28: in a driveway, all spotless and yeah, right clean and dicise.

2130
01:48:58,493 --> 01:49:00,813
Speaker 19: You can feel the polish on it.

2131
01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:03,813
Speaker 2: I felt like it was a bit like, it's funny

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Speaker 2: that you said it was a bit of a muted response.

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01:49:05,653 --> 01:49:07,693
Speaker 2: I felt like the elm itself was a bit mutant

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01:49:07,893 --> 01:49:11,773
Speaker 2: like and maybe like I was expecting big stadium bangers perhaps, Yeah,

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01:49:11,853 --> 01:49:13,973
Speaker 2: and that's where I kind of went wrong, Like it

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01:49:14,093 --> 01:49:17,013
Speaker 2: felt a little bit low energy to me. And I've

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01:49:17,053 --> 01:49:19,293
Speaker 2: only listened to it once, so like, you know, and

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01:49:19,373 --> 01:49:22,693
Speaker 2: I'm no expert, but yeah, but I sort of expected

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01:49:22,773 --> 01:49:25,653
Speaker 2: like really big radio play like hey we are and

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01:49:25,853 --> 01:49:27,573
Speaker 2: said it was just like, oh, you know, like that

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01:49:27,813 --> 01:49:29,973
Speaker 2: was that actually romantic? Was the probably the Catcher song?

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01:49:31,893 --> 01:49:33,933
Speaker 19: Yeah, Yeah, Elizabeth Taylor is the one that stood out

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01:49:33,933 --> 01:49:34,293
Speaker 19: for ye me.

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01:49:34,533 --> 01:49:34,653
Speaker 8: Right.

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01:49:35,333 --> 01:49:36,853
Speaker 28: There could be a couple of reasons for that. You know,

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01:49:37,053 --> 01:49:39,733
Speaker 28: it's coming from a different place. She's she's quite happy

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01:49:39,773 --> 01:49:41,653
Speaker 28: in her life right now, like she's at the top

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01:49:41,733 --> 01:49:43,773
Speaker 28: of the titem pole. She hasn't had a breakup. She's

2149
01:49:43,853 --> 01:49:47,173
Speaker 28: she's engaged, she's getting married. You know, that doesn't necessarily

2150
01:49:47,293 --> 01:49:48,693
Speaker 28: make for the most interesting art.

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01:49:48,893 --> 01:49:49,093
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:49:49,613 --> 01:49:51,813
Speaker 28: The other thing is she hasn't really given us a

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01:49:51,893 --> 01:49:55,933
Speaker 28: break from like the Taylor swift, the pop culture phenomenon.

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01:49:56,173 --> 01:49:59,373
Speaker 28: It's just been you biquitous for years now. She's she's

2155
01:49:59,453 --> 01:50:02,053
Speaker 28: only just finished the Eras tour that went for two years,

2156
01:50:02,413 --> 01:50:05,093
Speaker 28: one hundred and forty nine stops famously not New Zealand.

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01:50:05,213 --> 01:50:06,173
Speaker 19: By the way, we get that in.

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01:50:06,933 --> 01:50:10,493
Speaker 28: But there hasn't been a chance to build anticipation for this,

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01:50:10,613 --> 01:50:12,613
Speaker 28: and I think even if she'd waited another six months,

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01:50:12,653 --> 01:50:14,093
Speaker 28: it might have been more of an event.

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01:50:14,933 --> 01:50:17,493
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Actually, I wonder if, yeah, I

2162
01:50:17,533 --> 01:50:20,653
Speaker 2: suppose it depends when the wedding's going to bell, there'll

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01:50:20,653 --> 01:50:24,573
Speaker 2: be something that no doubt fits in with that relatively elegantly.

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01:50:24,653 --> 01:50:27,013
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's yeah, you feel like it's kind of

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01:50:27,333 --> 01:50:29,093
Speaker 2: just looking back a little bit.

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Speaker 28: Maybe I would caution though that we did feel this

2167
01:50:31,613 --> 01:50:34,533
Speaker 28: way about the Torture Poets Departments right at the time.

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01:50:34,653 --> 01:50:37,013
Speaker 28: It does take time for these songs to sink in.

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01:50:37,933 --> 01:50:39,493
Speaker 19: There are hooks here.

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Speaker 28: This is not a badly written album by any stretch

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01:50:42,253 --> 01:50:45,053
Speaker 28: of the imagination. There's a few plunkers. I'd point out

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01:50:45,093 --> 01:50:48,013
Speaker 28: wood the song would, which is apparently about her fiance.

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01:50:49,013 --> 01:50:51,733
Speaker 28: There is a lot of innuendo in that song.

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01:50:52,093 --> 01:50:54,373
Speaker 19: Oh, I'm not going to say.

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01:50:54,333 --> 01:50:55,653
Speaker 2: Name alone suggestive.

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01:50:55,853 --> 01:50:59,293
Speaker 28: Yeah, okay, it's going where you think it's going to, right, right, Okay,

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01:50:59,613 --> 01:51:02,253
Speaker 28: But but there's ear worms and they could take time

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01:51:02,533 --> 01:51:03,813
Speaker 28: to really sink in.

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01:51:04,093 --> 01:51:06,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the other thing again, Sometimes when you

2180
01:51:06,373 --> 01:51:08,053
Speaker 2: I've only had a tiny little window to listen to

2181
01:51:08,093 --> 01:51:10,853
Speaker 2: it once or twice, you don't fully appreciate what are

2182
01:51:10,933 --> 01:51:12,733
Speaker 2: going to be the catchiest talks. What is the deal

2183
01:51:12,813 --> 01:51:13,653
Speaker 2: with Charlie Xx?

2184
01:51:13,733 --> 01:51:14,013
Speaker 8: Do you know.

2185
01:51:16,453 --> 01:51:18,333
Speaker 19: Two grown men discussing dramas?

2186
01:51:19,493 --> 01:51:19,653
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2187
01:51:19,733 --> 01:51:24,453
Speaker 19: Yeah, no, so Charlie XCX. It goes back to.

2188
01:51:26,093 --> 01:51:30,213
Speaker 28: A relationship one of the nineteen seventy five members, and

2189
01:51:30,333 --> 01:51:32,853
Speaker 28: they used to see each other backstage. Charlie XX write

2190
01:51:32,853 --> 01:51:35,453
Speaker 28: a really nuanced song about it on Bratt about how

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01:51:35,493 --> 01:51:38,453
Speaker 28: she'd see Charlie she'd see Taylor Swift backstage and realize

2192
01:51:38,453 --> 01:51:40,613
Speaker 28: I could never be you. She put all this in

2193
01:51:40,693 --> 01:51:43,733
Speaker 28: a song, okay, and this is Taylor Swift's.

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01:51:44,533 --> 01:51:46,653
Speaker 19: Response, She's yeah, she's heading back.

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01:51:46,693 --> 01:51:48,893
Speaker 28: But in a way that kind of feels a little mean,

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01:51:49,493 --> 01:51:51,693
Speaker 28: do you know what I mean? Like Charlie x X

2197
01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:54,213
Speaker 28: also did this to Lort and they worked it out

2198
01:51:54,253 --> 01:51:58,213
Speaker 28: on the remix famously Girl so confusing, But Taylor Swift

2199
01:51:58,293 --> 01:52:00,613
Speaker 28: isn't doing that, she really is just kind of it

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01:52:00,773 --> 01:52:04,973
Speaker 28: feels like she's attacking Charlie X. When you're at the top,

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01:52:05,613 --> 01:52:09,493
Speaker 28: you're always punch. It feels I mean that the reaction

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01:52:09,613 --> 01:52:12,653
Speaker 28: to it has been that maybe she shouldn't have done.

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01:52:12,493 --> 01:52:15,013
Speaker 2: That, done that interesting. Okay, So what.

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01:52:14,973 --> 01:52:15,453
Speaker 4: Would you give it?

2205
01:52:16,133 --> 01:52:17,453
Speaker 19: I think i'd give it three and a half.

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01:52:17,853 --> 01:52:18,053
Speaker 3: Jack.

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01:52:18,173 --> 01:52:20,213
Speaker 19: It's not her best album by any shot.

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01:52:20,533 --> 01:52:20,693
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:52:20,773 --> 01:52:23,293
Speaker 28: The big criticism that's come out of the reviews I've

2210
01:52:23,333 --> 01:52:25,533
Speaker 28: read is that she's done all of this before and better,

2211
01:52:25,733 --> 01:52:28,093
Speaker 28: and I do agree with that, right, but I would

2212
01:52:28,173 --> 01:52:30,653
Speaker 28: just caution that could move up to a four over time.

2213
01:52:30,773 --> 01:52:33,613
Speaker 28: It's only been nineteen hours since this album came out.

2214
01:52:33,853 --> 01:52:35,453
Speaker 28: That is not enough time to really get your head

2215
01:52:35,493 --> 01:52:36,613
Speaker 28: around a Taylor Swift album.

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01:52:36,813 --> 01:52:38,773
Speaker 2: No, And the good news is, of course that we're

2217
01:52:38,773 --> 01:52:40,813
Speaker 2: sittingly going to have plenty of time play of opportunity

2218
01:52:40,813 --> 01:52:43,693
Speaker 2: because this album is going to be everwhere.

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01:52:43,373 --> 01:52:45,213
Speaker 28: If you want to go to the movie theaters this week,

2220
01:52:45,253 --> 01:52:47,853
Speaker 28: in good luck, she is dominating movie theaters.

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01:52:47,893 --> 01:52:50,773
Speaker 2: See that's mate, Like, this is the thing. And I've

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01:52:50,773 --> 01:52:52,853
Speaker 2: had a few texts come in this morning, So Jack, oh,

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01:52:52,933 --> 01:52:54,893
Speaker 2: why why are you going on and on about Taylor Swift.

2224
01:52:54,973 --> 01:52:57,493
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a big Taylor Swift fan necessarily,

2225
01:52:57,533 --> 01:53:01,613
Speaker 2: but I can appreciate that she is a social phenomenon.

2226
01:53:02,013 --> 01:53:05,493
Speaker 2: She is a colossus in our culture right now. So

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01:53:06,373 --> 01:53:07,773
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Three and a half out of

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01:53:07,853 --> 01:53:10,093
Speaker 2: five you reckon the Life of a show Girl is

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01:53:10,133 --> 01:53:12,133
Speaker 2: worth We're gonna pick out the Life of a show Girl.

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01:53:12,133 --> 01:53:13,453
Speaker 2: We'll play that song in a couple of minutes. On

2231
01:53:13,493 --> 01:53:15,013
Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be Chris Shultz. Of course, you can

2232
01:53:15,053 --> 01:53:18,333
Speaker 2: find them on substack. His substack is called boiler Room.

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01:53:18,613 --> 01:53:20,053
Speaker 2: We'll have a bit more of a listen to Tata

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01:53:20,133 --> 01:53:20,933
Speaker 2: in a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday. Saturday morning with Jack

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01:53:26,893 --> 01:53:28,453
Speaker 1: Team News Talks, they'd.

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Speaker 2: Be Okay, we are getting turfed out of the studio,

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01:53:33,253 --> 01:53:36,253
Speaker 2: not quite, but thank you very much for all your

2239
01:53:36,533 --> 01:53:38,933
Speaker 2: texts and emails and your company this morning. On News Talks,

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Speaker 2: he'd be Jason Pine Is with us for a weekend sport.

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01:53:42,693 --> 01:53:44,493
Speaker 2: In a few minutes time. He'll be looking at the

2242
01:53:44,533 --> 01:53:47,133
Speaker 2: All Blacks prospects and the second leader's low against the

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01:53:47,173 --> 01:53:49,333
Speaker 2: Wallabies this evening ten forty five. Of course, we'll have

2244
01:53:49,413 --> 01:53:51,733
Speaker 2: the game live. On News Talks, he'd be Elliott Smith

2245
01:53:51,813 --> 01:53:55,413
Speaker 2: with the call this evening. Thanks to my producer Libby

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01:53:55,573 --> 01:53:58,653
Speaker 2: for setting up everything this morning, for picking through Taylor

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01:53:58,733 --> 01:54:01,293
Speaker 2: Swift's new album. The album's called The Life of a

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01:54:01,413 --> 01:54:03,013
Speaker 2: show Girl. We're gonna leave you with the life of

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01:54:03,053 --> 01:54:05,453
Speaker 2: a show girl. I'm back next week till then never

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Speaker 2: got one.

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01:54:06,813 --> 01:54:07,853
Speaker 10: The more you play, the.

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01:54:07,973 --> 01:54:11,253
Speaker 4: Mother you pay, you softer than a kitten.

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01:54:11,373 --> 01:54:11,613
Speaker 14: Sew.

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01:54:11,813 --> 01:54:15,933
Speaker 13: You don't know the life of so girl Bay, and

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01:54:16,093 --> 01:54:21,053
Speaker 13: you never got a one off. She was a menace,

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01:54:21,973 --> 01:54:24,213
Speaker 13: the baby of the family, Lennox.

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01:54:25,013 --> 01:54:27,413
Speaker 4: Her father ord around mycle Mende.

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01:54:28,253 --> 01:54:33,293
Speaker 13: Her mother took those and play tennis. So she waited

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01:54:33,373 --> 01:54:36,573
Speaker 13: by the stage door, asked the club promotor arrived, she said,

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01:54:36,653 --> 01:54:37,853
Speaker 13: it's my soul.

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01:54:37,853 --> 01:54:40,013
Speaker 21: To have a taste of a magnificent left.

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01:54:40,093 --> 01:54:46,253
Speaker 13: It's online, but that's love with showgirls gay they leave as.

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01:54:46,293 --> 01:54:50,013
Speaker 10: But okay, thank you.

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01:54:50,053 --> 01:54:50,773
Speaker 1: For the laser.

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01:54:51,093 --> 01:54:55,333
Speaker 27: Okay, you're sweeter than a breach by you donna with

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01:54:55,493 --> 01:54:57,173
Speaker 27: a life of shower.

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01:54:56,813 --> 01:55:00,533
Speaker 13: Girl pay and she never ever been away.

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01:55:01,453 --> 01:55:04,733
Speaker 2: The more you pay, the more that you pay, you're.

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01:55:04,693 --> 01:55:08,413
Speaker 13: Softer than a kitten s You don't know the life.

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01:55:08,133 --> 01:55:12,053
Speaker 2: Of show girl, man, and you're never going to honor.

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01:55:12,693 --> 01:55:15,693
Speaker 13: I took a pearls of wizard, hung them from my neck.

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01:55:15,893 --> 01:55:17,533
Speaker 2: I pitted my doos with every purse.

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01:55:17,573 --> 01:55:19,573
Speaker 11: I knew what to ax me. Do you want to

2274
01:55:19,653 --> 01:55:22,133
Speaker 11: take escape on the ice inside my veins?

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01:55:22,213 --> 01:55:24,453
Speaker 2: They ripped me off like full slashes in them, through

2276
01:55:24,533 --> 01:55:25,973
Speaker 2: me away and.

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01:55:26,133 --> 01:55:31,293
Speaker 13: The shots on the walls of the dance color of

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01:55:31,413 --> 01:55:31,973
Speaker 13: the bitches.

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01:55:32,653 --> 01:55:33,133
Speaker 3: Who is that?

2280
01:55:33,373 --> 01:55:33,973
Speaker 13: Hurry out?

2281
01:55:37,493 --> 01:55:38,613
Speaker 3: But I'm remord.

2282
01:55:38,893 --> 01:55:41,093
Speaker 13: Don't, no, baby, don't.

2283
01:55:41,773 --> 01:55:44,373
Speaker 18: I couldn't if I tried.

2284
01:55:46,453 --> 01:55:47,613
Speaker 12: So I say.

2285
01:55:49,013 --> 01:55:50,573
Speaker 10: Thank you for the of the booth.

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01:55:51,733 --> 01:55:54,853
Speaker 13: I'm married to the hustle, and now i know the

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01:55:55,013 --> 01:55:57,933
Speaker 13: life of the shoulder, and.

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01:55:58,053 --> 01:56:00,053
Speaker 3: I'll never pay.

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01:56:01,133 --> 01:56:05,293
Speaker 13: Hidden by the lipstick and le secrets of the river,

2290
01:56:05,453 --> 01:56:08,893
Speaker 13: and now I know the I love sucker.

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01:56:23,573 --> 01:56:24,493
Speaker 12: Than kiddy.

2292
01:56:28,213 --> 01:56:30,213
Speaker 4: Man money, be pretty and lady.

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01:56:31,493 --> 01:56:33,773
Speaker 2: Thank you for love, d.

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01:56:38,253 --> 01:56:38,573
Speaker 17: Thank you.

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01:57:01,733 --> 01:57:04,813
Speaker 1: For more From Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live

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01:57:04,933 --> 01:57:07,733
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