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Speaker 1: Netball New Zealand. Have you turned on eligibility rules? The

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Speaker 1: likes of Grays and Wiki who ditched down League of

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Speaker 1: course for the Australians will now be eligible for the

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Speaker 1: Ferns again. An exemption process will allow overseas players to

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Speaker 1: formally apply for selection. Matt Winney is the chair of

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand Netball and Netball New Zealanders with US

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Speaker 1: Matt Morning Morning, Mike. Did this need to get as

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Speaker 1: angsty as it did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question, Mike. Look, you know we've

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Speaker 2: been working through it. We've had obviously some continued interests

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Speaker 2: via lad athletes to play overseas. You know, that's something

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Speaker 2: that's common across many sporting codes, and we've been working

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Speaker 2: through this to make sure that we balance, you know,

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Speaker 2: all the interests we've We've got to balance those players

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Speaker 2: estimations and their development. We've got needs in the high

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Speaker 2: performance system and the Selk Ferns and obviously we've got

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Speaker 2: the strength of domestic competition, so we needed to make

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Speaker 2: sure that was right. I think people got frustrated that

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Speaker 2: it took us a while to work through those, but

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Speaker 2: we're very pleased that we're at this point.

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Speaker 1: Now, could you not have foreseen all of this coming.

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Speaker 1: In other words, you weren't the first sport to face

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Speaker 1: up to it, and they've all dealt with it in

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Speaker 1: their own way. You could have gone, hey, when it

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Speaker 1: happens here, how here's our model, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: met it when it arrived.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think all sports are dealing with this and

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Speaker 2: dealing it with it in their own ways, and this

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Speaker 2: is a slightly different way from how some other sports

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Speaker 2: have dealt with it. But you know, we're pleased that

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Speaker 2: we've got a process in place now which allows us

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Speaker 2: to balance those different needs and also to understand, really

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Speaker 2: understand how it fits in with the needs of our

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Speaker 2: system and our domestic league.

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Speaker 1: Your domestic league looks weak at the moment. Is that fair?

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Speaker 1: And has that been part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: No, we've had a great season this season at.

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Speaker 1: Season, but it's not what it was, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not playing the Australians, it's not quite.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't quite have the fizz that it used to.

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Speaker 2: It's got a lot of fids this year. We've had

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Speaker 2: great engagement. We've had bigger crowds, we've had more viewership

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Speaker 2: and everyone's engaged with that, I think we're continuing to

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Speaker 2: face into a pretty difficult commercial market, but we're committed

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Speaker 2: to being there next year. We've committed to the system

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Speaker 2: that we'll be We'll be putting it on in twenty

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Speaker 2: six in the same in the same format with six

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Speaker 2: with six teams, and we're looking forward to continuing that

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Speaker 1: Good hey, put another hat on. Congratulations on that report

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Speaker 1: your right on insurance. Do you think it will ultimately

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Speaker 1: go anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I hope it does, because it's a it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's just another one of these things that

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Speaker 2: if we kick it down the road that can get's

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Speaker 2: pretty big and then you can't kick it. And so

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Speaker 2: so you know, what we're trying to do with that

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Speaker 2: is we look, we're providing advice to the m I

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Speaker 2: F E, m IF developing the policy. But I think

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Speaker 2: it's important that there's a conversation about this and we

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Speaker 2: start start, you know, grasping the needle. Essentially, these are

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Speaker 2: these are hard problems that there's no easy solutions to

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Speaker 2: them if we'd already have them. But but we've got

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Speaker 2: to have that conversation. So I'm hopeful that it does good.

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Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you. Appreciate it very much. Matt Winnerray,

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Speaker 1: chair of Netball New Zealand, and I brunched, I thought

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Speaker 1: gracefully into another subject. He was ahead of the group

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Speaker 1: that wrote the report. Was it last week or the

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Speaker 1: week before whenever? It was basically saying, at some point

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Speaker 1: you've got to work out that living next to a

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Speaker 1: river is probably not for you if you want somebody

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Speaker 1: to come to your rescue financially, and it cannot be

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Speaker 1: the government forever. And I know how many years have

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Speaker 1: been saying it on this program that at some point

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Speaker 1: someone's going to have to harden up and make a

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Speaker 1: few I reckon the National Party for it. I reckon

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Speaker 1: National Party. We should probably do a review. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: the second gear. Couldn't put it bit of myself anyway,

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Speaker 1: but good on him for fronting that report and at

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Speaker 1: least at this point anyway. Asking a few hard questions.

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