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Speaker 1: Exciting times for Ginny Smith. She's well. She almost got

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Speaker 1: on the show in twenty twenty one, then COVID hit

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Speaker 1: But tomorrow her debut album drops and a tour ensues.

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Speaker 1: She's been in music since she was twelve, got the

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Speaker 1: Songwriter of the Year Country Music Awards back in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Her singles from the album are already charting. Jenny Smith

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Speaker 1: is with us lovely to see you at last, lovely

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Speaker 1: to see you? What have you been? First of all,

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Speaker 1: let's celebrate Mirror, which is number one on the Hot charts.

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Speaker 1: Number I mean number one.

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Speaker 2: It's number one. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You can't argue with that. No, do you get up

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Speaker 1: every morning and look at the charts to see where

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Speaker 1: you are?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, they they tagged me on Instagram and it just

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Speaker 1: No way. Isn't that exciting? Good on you? What have

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Speaker 1: you been doing in the ensuing? So do you hear

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one? It's a long time ago? What have

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Speaker 3: I graduated my songwriting degree at Auckland University, and then

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Speaker 3: I started teaching music and took a slight break from releasing,

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Speaker 3: and then I started releasing again in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: and I released an EP in twenty twenty four. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm releasing my debut album. It comes out at midnight

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Speaker 1: Really, how exciting isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I've been working on it for three years, so exciting

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Speaker 3: is like a lesser word for it.

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Speaker 1: Is it good?

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Speaker 2: The album? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So the reason I ask is we feature music

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Speaker 1: on this program, and they often put in things like

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Speaker 1: this album was recorded in two weeks. This album was

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Speaker 1: recorded in a mass session lasting twenty four hours, And

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, I wouldn't say that publicly, yet

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Speaker 1: You've gone for three years. Do you run the risk

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Speaker 3: It was less about overthinking and more about the fact

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Speaker 3: that I'm an independent artist, so I have to find

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Speaker 3: the time to go to record, but I also fund

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's hard work. The graduation in teaching or

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Speaker 1: learning music officially, does that help in terms of performance,

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Speaker 3: I definitely learned a lot in my time studying songwriting.

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Speaker 3: I think it made me think a little bit more

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Speaker 3: in depth about what I'm writing. It arguably made my

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Speaker 3: multiple times. But I think it paid off.

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Speaker 1: So literally, what do you learn in writing? Is there

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Speaker 1: a structure to it that they would teach you to follow,

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Speaker 1: So not really a structure.

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Speaker 3: They teach you different routes of creativity, so they give

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Speaker 3: you different criterias. So they'll be like, today, you're going

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Speaker 3: to write a song about something that you've heard on

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Speaker 3: the news and then present it to us next week

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Speaker 3: when you've edited it kind of thing. And just doing

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Speaker 1: Can I believe you're a Taylor Swift fan? Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Huge?

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Speaker 1: Right? Okay, So I'm a massive tape a Swift fan,

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Speaker 1: the sense what I admire her. She's clearly a genius

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Speaker 1: songwriting stuff. The stuff she comes out with verbally is

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Speaker 1: little short or brilliant at times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a Swift because of her music. Primarily. I

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Speaker 3: don't go into her life or anything. No, And I

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Speaker 3: definitely got into songwriting because of Taylor. I remember being

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Speaker 3: music videos and Taylor Swift came on and I was like,

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Speaker 3: that is what I want to do. And then I

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Speaker 1: There you go and yeah, here I am, and it's

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Speaker 1: become real. Yeah, that's fantastic. Now you've the first guest,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I've been doing the show for eighteen years,

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Speaker 1: you are the first guest who's ever bought me baking.

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Speaker 3: You're kidding.

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Speaker 1: I wish I was, Mike, I know. So I haven't

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Speaker 3: It's a fudge with biscuits in't it?

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Speaker 1: Wow? And you made that? Is it your recipe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it delicious?

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Speaker 3: I think so. You never had any complains?

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Speaker 1: That fair enough to now what your videos. I watched

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Speaker 1: one yesterday, Mirror, which I believe, as we've said, is

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Speaker 1: the other one I watched was the bloke in the supermarket.

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Speaker 1: Your videos seem to have I don't know what they

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Speaker 1: would like, a quirkiness to it, like a touch of

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Speaker 1: humor to them. That's obviously deliberate.

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Speaker 3: I love having a bit of humor in there. It

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Speaker 3: for a single. I don't know what I'm going to

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Speaker 1: Well. Good on you, Mike, Jenny, this is a text

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Speaker 1: for you. Jenny. Jenny is an amazing musician. She teaches

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Speaker 1: me the banjo and is so lovely and encouraging.

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Speaker 3: I know exactly who that is.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, how many people do you

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Speaker 1: teach the benjo to?

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Speaker 3: I've currently got one banjo student, but I've taught a few.

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Speaker 1: That'll be Who is it?

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Speaker 3: Paula?

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Speaker 1: So it's Paula. Is Paula any good?

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Speaker 3: She's doing really well with her She's making a lot

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Speaker 1: Good honest with you again, good tonight. So you're a

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Speaker 1: wonderful musician. Paula loves you, everybody loves you, and you

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Speaker 1: bought in baking so god right. So number one on

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Speaker 1: the hot shots is mirror hit me.

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Speaker 4: I can see that you've already found a remplacement for me.

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Speaker 4: Is she from the city and you're shoving her around stupa.

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Speaker 2: He had a type, did anything?

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Speaker 4: God, what you mean? I bet she's into Disney, doesn't

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Speaker 4: like frisky.

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Speaker 2: She's just a little life. We let don't know her,

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Speaker 2: if she don't know me. But I think I've seen

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Speaker 5: That the brunette dressed in bed makes familiar.

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Speaker 2: I think I've seen her. We love you her.

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Speaker 4: I bet you'll think, out of all of the place,

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Speaker 4: does that me ben too? And you'll act like it's

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Speaker 1: Feel the daye of him.

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Speaker 2: You said, are your friends?

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Speaker 4: She's so different from me, booming more similar than stranger

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Speaker 2: They'll call her my name, look in my picture, friend,

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Speaker 2: and wonder how she's loved me. No, let don't know

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Speaker 2: her if she don't know me. But I think I've

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Speaker 5: That the light brunette dresting red makes familiar.

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Speaker 2: I think i've seen her.

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Speaker 4: Renomiabo bad, You're just not don't burn me.

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Speaker 2: Bad. She's your idea of me dead. I couldn't.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know her and she don't know me.

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Speaker 2: But I think I've seen her before.

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Speaker 4: That light brunette dresting bad makes familiar.

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Speaker 2: I think I've seen her renomb mebro.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: She don't tell me, but I think i've seen her before.

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Speaker 5: That Browne dresting bad looks familiar. I think i've seen her, beloved, youble,

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Speaker 5: I've seen before.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant, Well done. Congratulations on the album out tomorrow, The

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Speaker 1: Girl next Door, The Girl next Door from which that

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Speaker 1: is the single. Because that's how it works these days,

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Speaker 1: you release singles before the album comes out. Now the show.

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Speaker 1: You got a show on Saturday in Auckland. I will

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Speaker 1: stick all that on our website. You're going to christch

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Speaker 1: later in April and Wellington as well, so there's a too.

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Speaker 1: There's the album, there's a single. Life seems good dinner.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing at the moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on you. Lovely to see you at last.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much for having me Jenny Smith.

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