1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this business with the pension age. Okay. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: So Chris Luxon has said today twice that he wants 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: the pension age to go up to sixty seven and 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: he said at once on Kerrey Show this morning, and 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: then at a post budget lunch speaking to business leaders 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: he repeated it and he told them that this is 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: basically going to be election policy for national next year. Now, 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: regardless of how you may feel about this, I mean, 9 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: you'd have to be coming around to the realization, wouldn't you, 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: That we are inch and closer and closer to this 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: thing actually happening, especially after the changes that the government 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: made to our key we save the retirement funds yesterday. 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 1: It's not long now. I think that the government will 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: have completely wound down its government support of Kei we Saver, 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and then it's going to come after the pension next, 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: isn't it. And this is where I think it gets tricky, 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: because this is not just about money for people. This 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: is emotional. Let me lay out the emotional argument for 19 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: you as it plays out in my head. Okay, goes 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: like this, don't touch my pension. You can touch anything else, 21 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: do not touch my pension. I don't care, if they 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: take away every other piece of well that is available 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: to me and other people. In fact, they would actually 24 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: welcome it, because I think there is way too much 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: welfare in this country for the middle class who don't 26 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: actually need it. You get a best start payment for 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: having a newborn. You having a baby, they give you money. 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: You get the winter energy payment, you get working for families, 29 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: which I think is a crime. You get the subsidized 30 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: child care for sending your kid to KINDI. You get 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: free tertiary education for the third year. God only knows why. 32 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Free government money for your key. We save it now. 33 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: As far as I'm considered, way too much of that 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: stuff going on, they can take all of that away. 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: If then I want to take it away, they can 36 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: means test it. So actually the most only the most 37 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: needy in this country get it. But I will do 38 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: everything I can to stop them touching my pension because 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I have earned that money. This is not a question 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: about whether I need that money. It is that I 41 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: have earned that money. I, like you, have contributed huge 42 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: amounts of tax to this country, and actually I have 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: not claimed very much back for myself, and certainly not 44 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: anywhere near how much I have put in the Only 45 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: thing that stops me from being very sour about how 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: much money they take out of my paypack it every 47 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: year and the wasting of that money and the bludging 48 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: by some on that money, is the knowledge that when 49 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: I hit sixty five and want to retire, I will 50 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: get a little bit back. Call it a good will 51 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: gesture from the government, if you like a government who 52 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: I have helped prop up, just like you have four 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: donkeys years by the time that money comes into my 54 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: bank account. So good luck to Chris Luxen getting this 55 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: one across the line. I think it's going to be 56 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: one of the hardest fights to win because of the 57 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: emotional argument that I have just laid out for you, 58 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: and I think they might find it easier to take 59 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: away a lot of other welfare first. And unless they 60 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: take away a lot of other welfare first, I am 61 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: not budging on the punt pension. For more from Heather 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks. It'd be 63 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.