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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to

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Speaker 2: coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 1: News Talks have be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Jared kurb

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Speaker 3: Kiwibank on the OCR, the Queenstown Airport guys on being

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Speaker 3: the best big airport in the country, and the rugby

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Speaker 3: Rebel League.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Ellen, good news.

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Speaker 3: The Reserve Bank has finally done the thing many of

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Speaker 3: us thought was necessary, and they've gone for a double

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Speaker 3: cut in the OCR of fifty basis points. That's the

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Speaker 3: good news. The bad news is that they've been forced

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Speaker 3: to do it because they didn't do it earlier, as in,

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Speaker 3: they haven't cut as quickly as they should have. I mean,

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Speaker 3: think back to July and they actually chose not to

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Speaker 3: that in the three months before that decision, the economy

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Speaker 3: had actually contracted by a whopping zero point nine percent

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Speaker 3: in the Reserve Bank hadn't really noticed at all. And

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Speaker 3: the bad news, I suppose again is that they could

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Speaker 3: have cut a double cut last time, when two of

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Speaker 3: double cut, but more of them said, now, let's just

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Speaker 3: that finally the Reserve Bank has caught up with the

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Speaker 3: rest of us. The economy is cooked and we need

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Speaker 3: to do something, so they have delivered it. They admit

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Speaker 3: that this is a signal. The signal is it's okay

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Speaker 3: to go out and spend and invest because they've realized

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Speaker 3: finally that people are freaked out. Right, there have been

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Speaker 3: too many predictions of green shoots just before the economy

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Speaker 3: many bad surprises which freak people out. Business confidence is shot.

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Speaker 3: Look at the qbso yesterday. Consumer confidence is also yet

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Speaker 3: slightly increasing, but still really negative. People are holding onto

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Speaker 3: their money, they're saving instead of spending, They're worrying instead

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Speaker 3: of investing. This cut is a circuit breaker that's supposed

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Speaker 3: to snap us out of a fair our fear. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe it would happen, but I think what's more likely

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Speaker 3: to be bold. And finally, they are prepared to be bold.

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, it's better late than never

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Speaker 3: together do for c Allen. N nine two is the

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Speaker 3: text number. Standard text fees apply. Now, there are concerns

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Speaker 3: accepting payments to pass practical exams, which resulted in over

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Speaker 3: three hundred people having to retake their licenses and five

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Speaker 3: staff being sacked. Now, Julie Haggee is Transparency International's executive

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Speaker 3: direct down with us. Now, Hey, Julie, Hi, there are

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Speaker 3: you surprised by this or is this the kind of

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Speaker 4: We've already seen a couple of cases. There's one back

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Speaker 4: we've seen it other types of licensing. This is a

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Speaker 4: that that that gives you some confidence that you're not

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Speaker 4: putting people who are incapable of driving, you know, two

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Speaker 3: How would like these have come to light? If it's

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Speaker 4: It be interesting to see because I mean, I hasn't

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Speaker 4: So that's what it seems to it allegations, but that's

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Speaker 3: Do you believe that's them? Do you believe our global

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Speaker 4: Does put us at forth fred ruption, and that's because

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Speaker 4: So that that is one thing. We do have corruption

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Speaker 4: in New Zealand just like everyone else has, and we're

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Speaker 3: Very good point. Hey, thank you very much, surely, Julie Haggie,

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Speaker 3: Transparency International's executive director here in New Zealand. Hey, the

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Speaker 3: Danes have announced that they're going to ban social media

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Speaker 3: for under fifteens. Prime Minister there has announced it has

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Speaker 3: cited some figures for boys who are between the ages

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Speaker 3: call that? Intermediate through to high school? She reckons sixty

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Speaker 3: percent of those boys intermediate through high school do not

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Speaker 3: see a single friend in their free time. They're all

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Speaker 3: unleashed a monster. Never before have so many children and

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Speaker 3: they could do this, they reckon, hopefully as early as

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Speaker 3: Are not a great poll for the National Party out

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Speaker 3: today at all, So I'm going to run you through

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Speaker 3: that shortly seventeen past four, who won board.

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Speaker 1: With a tab?

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Speaker 5: App?

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Speaker 1: Get your better on responsibility?

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Speaker 3: You can't take you anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Darcy, who won the poll?

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Speaker 6: Do you have a winner?

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Speaker 3: You're so lame. That's just what a dad joke.

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Speaker 3: I was commenting on the quality of your joke. Listen

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Speaker 3: Downsey Water grave Sports Talk cooast if you don't know

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Speaker 3: which loon I'm talking to right now. Do you look

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Speaker 3: if you go to the Rebel League, you can't play

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, they should be.

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Speaker 8: Why they should be because this is backed by Saudi money.

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Speaker 8: But they're looking at sport because this is a wonderful

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Speaker 8: you've gone, oh, hold on, this is a game changer.

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Speaker 8: We've got to say now, if you sign with this league,

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Speaker 3: I love it, But there are serious questions and reasonable

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Speaker 3: but you're doing World fifteens, are people going to turn

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Speaker 8: They are worried because they don't want to lose the cream,

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Speaker 8: they've got I'm led to believe the Herald understands. We

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Speaker 8: understand that there are a number of players weighing this up,

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Speaker 3: They'd be hither the golf oil sheeks have already taken

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Speaker 3: That Willie Jackson blacklisted me for a year. I didn't

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Speaker 12: Will he can?

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Speaker 9: Will he talk?

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Speaker 3: No my height, am I Willie Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Whatever? Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 2: like no one else News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump met with the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney

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Speaker 3: But when asked why he can't do a deal with

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Speaker 8: All night long, there was just thunder and lightning right

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Speaker 3: And finally, Hello, I'm Bob Rusk. Gosh, that's the music

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Speaker 9: It was all relatively jovial. I mean, the toughest material

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Speaker 9: To be quite warm, quite cozy, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 9: And there's another two hundred National Guard I've been sent

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Speaker 9: you go keep an eye on Portland too. I mean

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump's had efforts blocked there to try and get

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Speaker 9: the National Guard in Christy Noam his Homeland Security Secretary

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Speaker 9: tonight was saying that she's prepared to send more enforcement

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Speaker 9: Immigration enforcement agents in to surround the building. So this

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Speaker 9: is a real measure of force from the Trump administration,

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Speaker 9: and they need to watch this face closely. They are

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Speaker 9: democratic cities and things could heat up there.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 3: Are you as surprised as I was to see Taite

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Speaker 3: having to go on the late night TV and Hawker

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Speaker 3: wares You.

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Speaker 9: Wouldn't have thought that somebody with as many Instagram followers

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Speaker 9: and a large bank account as she has really needs

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Speaker 9: to do that in order to sell an album. But

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Speaker 9: clearly she wants to get out and try and push

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Speaker 9: herself to a fans. She went on the Graham Norton

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Speaker 9: shown in the United Kingdom. It is Seth Myers tonight.

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Speaker 9: It was Jimmy Fallon on The Tonight Show last night

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Speaker 9: in an extraordinary.

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Speaker 6: Relatively open interview.

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Speaker 9: If you like, I suppose a lot of what she's

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Speaker 9: saying now is largely repetitive. She's talking a lot about

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Speaker 9: the engagement I love for Travis Kelsey, how she's never

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Speaker 9: been happier in her entire existence, but very much pushing

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Speaker 9: her wears on this album.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a very interesting strategy.

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Speaker 9: Clearly, she must think that her fans want to see

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Speaker 9: her and want to hear from her other than just

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Speaker 9: Instagram posts and the album itself, So she's certainly making

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Speaker 9: this a very very public push, even talking about supposed

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Speaker 9: speculation that was around that she had rejected a deal

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Speaker 9: to sing at the Super Bowl because of a dispute

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Speaker 9: over the ownership of the television footage, essentially saying, look,

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Speaker 9: it's not a no, it's just a no now because

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Speaker 9: she's more interested in watching a fiance play American football.

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Speaker 9: So it's a watch this space on that front. But Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I think you're right. I think it's very interesting that

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Speaker 9: you've got the world's biggest pop star doing the late

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Speaker 9: night TV rounds pushing this album as much as she is.

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Speaker 3: I know you're a big swifty. Are you enjoying the album?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 9: I know you're a big swifty too. I think it's

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Speaker 9: last week off to go and listen to it as well.

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Speaker 9: I think we were exchanging mental messages over the course

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Speaker 9: of the Pacific Ocean on our feedback on the album.

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Speaker 6: I listened to it last week. Look, it's interesting.

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Speaker 9: I think there's a few songs there that even the

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Speaker 9: Swifties might think, oh, maybe this one not so keen

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Speaker 9: on certainly some of the die hard Swifties. I've spoken

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Speaker 9: to her a little bit up in arms about a

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Speaker 9: few of them, but she clearly has her eyes set

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Speaker 9: on trying to make something a little bit different. There's

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Speaker 9: a bit of a hark back to some of her

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Speaker 9: older stuff, and she's a little bit racier with some

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Speaker 9: of the newest stuff, particularly.

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Speaker 6: Songs that are supposedly around Travis Kelsey.

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Speaker 9: But hey, look she seems happy, and who can deny love?

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Speaker 9: Who can deny happiness? The more happiness we have in

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Speaker 9: the world, I think the better the post Oh you.

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Speaker 3: Make Me suck? Jonathan, thank you very much, appreciate it

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Speaker 3: and enjoy the album. Jonathan Keursley UIs correspondent. I was

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Speaker 3: asking Jonathan because the spin off, they've got two of

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Speaker 3: their senior journalists, Lyric and Alex, who are trying to

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Speaker 3: figure out why is that Taylor Swift's new album kind

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Speaker 3: of sucks? And it's because she sounds so bitter. Apparently

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Speaker 3: so not everybody loves at eighteen Away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Ether do for see out well?

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Speaker 3: I oh here the Simon Bridges was rolled, but the

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Speaker 3: result was an absolute cluster. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No. No, I'm not talking about it because

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Speaker 3: I wanted to happen. I'm just talking about it because

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Speaker 3: these things happen anyway. I've been meaning to address something, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so I'm going to do it now, And it's basically

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Speaker 3: because I'm only getting around to it now because of

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Speaker 3: just you know, workflow. Anyway, few people have raised with

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Speaker 3: me that while I was on holiday, one of the

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Speaker 3: things that happened was that the police revealed they'd spotted

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Speaker 3: the Tom Phillips family a bunch of times in the bush,

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Speaker 3: and they were surprised. And I was surprised too to

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Speaker 3: hear that, because that is not the impression that I

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Speaker 3: was given by Richard Chambers when he was on the

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Speaker 3: show just a few days, if not the day after

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Speaker 3: Tom Phillips was shot. Did you come across them in

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Speaker 3: four years in the bush?

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Speaker 7: Well, had we come across them in a way, we

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Speaker 7: could have brought the tour.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I just did did you come across them? Did

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Speaker 3: any of your officers come across them in the bush?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: No, never once, never in four years? Never once.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 3: So I talked to police about this, and they said

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Speaker 3: Richard thought that I was asking if actual police officers,

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Speaker 3: like actual humans, had bumped into the Tom Phillips family

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Speaker 3: in the bush. And he's right to say, no, that

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Speaker 3: didn't happen, because actually what had happened is they'd spotted

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Speaker 3: them in transit with motion activated cameras and drones. And

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Speaker 3: then Richard's comms woman just gave me a little bit

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Speaker 3: of constructive feedback and was like, maybe, either, if you

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Speaker 3: don't interrupt so much, he might be able to finish

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Speaker 3: his sentence, which would have told you that. So Richard

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Speaker 3: wasn't so just for the just for the benefit, just

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Speaker 3: for the avoidance of doubt. Here, Richard was not lying

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Speaker 3: to us. I just did a crap interview. Sixteen away

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Speaker 3: from five.

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Speaker 2: Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certainty, Tory Faro has delivered her valedictory speech. We will

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Speaker 3: deal with that short lets thirteen away from five and

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Speaker 3: Barrio Sober, senior political correspondence in studio. Pardon how tragic

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Speaker 3: she's honestly okay, the ocr what did you make of this?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think what it did do was vindicate the

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Speaker 5: two on the Monetary Statement Committee that they voted for

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Speaker 5: fifty basis points last time round. And really what it

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Speaker 5: shows is that the Reserve Bank has been lagging behind

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Speaker 5: the economy. What it should be doing is injecting impetus

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Speaker 5: into the economy. And I think what it goes to

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Speaker 5: show Heather is just how powerful the Reserve Bank is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we heard Adrian All saying he

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Speaker 5: was going to engineer a recession. He didn't know he's

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Speaker 5: going to engineer a couple of recessions. It could be,

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Speaker 5: so I say good riddance, and now we've sort of

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Speaker 5: moved on from that.

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Speaker 6: I've got to say.

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Speaker 5: The Finance Minister was beaming premiere to air after the announcement,

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Speaker 5: saying it's obviously great news for homeo owners with mortgages

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Speaker 5: and for the economy in general.

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Speaker 12: What we know is that over the next six months,

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Speaker 12: around half of mortgage debt will roll off a high

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Speaker 12: end straight, giving those people an opportunity for a lower

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Speaker 12: interest rate. So what that suggests is that we are

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Speaker 12: not yet feeling the full effect of interest rate reductions

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Speaker 12: that have already happened, and we should be able to

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Speaker 12: see accelerating relief over the coming months. The reason I

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Speaker 12: care about lower interest rates is I know that in

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Speaker 12: every economy in the world where you have lower interest rates,

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Speaker 12: people do better, and that's what we were elected to see.

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Speaker 5: And stepping up to the mic just after Nichola Willis

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Speaker 5: was Labour's Barbara Edmonds. She was also enthusiastic about the

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Speaker 5: ocr drop today, saying she hopes it'll see inflation coming

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Speaker 5: down and making things generally more affordable.

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Speaker 14: I'm comfortable seeing inflation coming down so that people can

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Speaker 14: afford food on their table. My concern again is that

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Speaker 14: inflation is biting hard on Kiwis who are feeling it

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Speaker 14: the most, and that's really at the grocery and in

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Speaker 14: those administered costs which they can't avoid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and in the house itself heather with lower interest

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Speaker 5: rates and more money flowing. The question Labors Chris Hopkins

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Speaker 5: asked the Prime Minister today would see to be a

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Speaker 5: foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 15: Mister speaker, when he's been out and about why hasn't

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Speaker 15: he been talking to the businesses who say that hiring

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Speaker 15: staff is not their primary constraint for growth, given that

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Speaker 15: only four percent are saying that, whilst sixty three percent

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Speaker 15: of businesses, according to NZI are saying the real problem

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Speaker 15: is not enough customers.

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Speaker 16: Well, the economy has been in a recession caused by

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Speaker 16: your reckless spending. You put the country into the biggest

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Speaker 16: recession in thirty five years.

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Speaker 6: You've created the.

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Speaker 16: Longest COVID hangover of any in the Western world. You

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Speaker 16: actually made sure that you tripled the debt for goodness sake,

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Speaker 16: and we now have a ten billion dollar interest bill.

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Speaker 16: We're cleaning up the Labor government's mess. It's that simple,

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Speaker 16: and I.

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Speaker 5: Guess we're all hoping that mess will be finally behind

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Speaker 5: us at some stage that the interstrate bill for the

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Speaker 5: government is going to take a lot more time to clear.

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Speaker 3: How much trouble in luxem and Willison with a pole

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Speaker 3: that puts them now in the.

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Speaker 5: Twos Yes, I know, well just twenty nine point six percent.

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Speaker 5: You know, statistical margin of era is three percent. But

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Speaker 5: having said that, it's not a good result for the

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Speaker 5: government clearly, and I think it bears out what the

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Speaker 5: general mood of the populace has been saying that things

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Speaker 5: are not looking good. The cost of living's too much.

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Speaker 5: That's the main concern in this poll. The economy second,

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Speaker 5: and you know, the Labor Party is slightly ahead, and

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Speaker 5: the center left would be the government of an election

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Speaker 5: was held today but center left with the Maldi Party

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Speaker 5: and the Greens. The Greens lifted their rating as well,

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Speaker 5: I think, to twelve percent. So you know, I don't

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Speaker 5: know where they get all the support from, but they're

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Speaker 5: getting it, and which Peters is the biggest when they're

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Speaker 5: in those two point five percent.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's protest numbers right if it actually came to voting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that the country is ready to re

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Speaker 3: elect Chippy because Chippy is part of the You're one

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Speaker 3: of the biggest reasons that we are in the situation

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Speaker 3: that we're in.

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Speaker 5: But do does the voter have the memory?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think so. I think the greater

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Speaker 3: threat to I still think the right block wins, but

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Speaker 3: I think the greater threat is that the right block

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Speaker 3: wins with the National Party much diminished and the two

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Speaker 3: supporting parties act in New Zealand first figure, don't you think?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: And that calls back I mean, just think about the

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Speaker 3: mechanism here, the mechanics of this right that causes problems

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Speaker 3: because then you've got a whole bunch of National MPs

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Speaker 3: in seats who losing on the list who losing that

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Speaker 3: and want to lose their business and then they do

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Speaker 3: what Well, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Not going to do that the side of the election.

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Speaker 5: That's not doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, silent song. I'm just leaving a pause. No like

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Speaker 3: leaving a pause for dramatic effect.

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Speaker 5: It's like I said, though, whether the drop the ocr

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Speaker 5: by fifty basis points today, was I right or was

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Speaker 5: I right?

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Speaker 10: No? That it was you?

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Speaker 3: And yeah anyway, so then what did the Greens do?

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Speaker 3: Tell me about the Greens?

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Speaker 5: Well, Chloe Swarburg's been in the news a lot lately,

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Speaker 5: so today she was doing her best in Parliament lecturing

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Speaker 5: the Prime Minister no less over the government's moves this

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Speaker 5: week against eighteen and nineteen year olds on the doll

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Speaker 5: Here she.

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Speaker 13: Is, the Prime Minister understand the basic mass that if

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Speaker 13: there are four job seekers to every job that is

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Speaker 13: available in this country, all of his cuts to job

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Speaker 13: seeker support couldn't hope to possibly punish people into ghost jobs,

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Speaker 13: but will only deepen poverty and homelessness.

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Speaker 7: Point of order, the Honorable David.

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Speaker 18: Single, Now, that's not actually a question designed to get

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Speaker 18: information for the public.

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Speaker 9: It's an attempt at theater and making a speech.

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Speaker 19: Well, let'd be very clear, attempts at theater are regular occurrency.

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Speaker 16: This out on this side of the government. We care

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Speaker 16: about young people. We're not prepared to actually just have

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Speaker 16: them languishing and consign to welfare like a Labour Greens government.

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Speaker 5: Well, the pulses, it could be one, but.

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Speaker 3: You never wanned Barry. Thanks very much, Barry so for

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Speaker 3: seeing your political correspondence. Seven away from five.

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Speaker 2: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast, do.

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Speaker 1: I have a training troubler?

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Speaker 15: Over three hundred and twenty two of us have to

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Speaker 15: reset the license after office is allegedly accepted cash bribes

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Speaker 15: to past practical test Mark Rebel Johnson's the president of

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Speaker 15: the New Zealand Institute of Driver Educators.

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Speaker 1: Is this do you think a one off?

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Speaker 20: We don't know an awful lot about it. However, when

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Speaker 20: you consider the number of driving tests that's happened well

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Speaker 20: into the thousands weekly, three hundred and twenty two over

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Speaker 20: a couple of year period is actually quite a small number.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make it right.

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Speaker 20: Mark, No, No, absolutely not. I quite agree. And we

686
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Speaker 20: need to have faith in this system and it needs

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Speaker 20: to be look a thought, this all strikes me as

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Speaker 20: being unbelievably third world. It is certainly how that impression.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 2: Breakfast with a Vida News Talk ZB Listen.

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Speaker 3: I don't have time right now to talk about Torrifino's

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Speaker 3: valedictory speech, so we're going to do it in the

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Speaker 3: next hour. What I need to talk to you about

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Speaker 3: is Queenstown Airport. Now, Queenstown Airport has been named the

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Speaker 3: Large Airport of the Year, like as in the biggest

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Speaker 3: New Zealand large Airport for the year at the awards

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Speaker 3: which were held last night. Now, why am We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Queenstown Airport about this in twenty minutes time.

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Speaker 3: Why I'm interested in this is that have you been

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Speaker 3: to Queenstown Airport? Because I was in Queenstown Airport on

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Speaker 3: Sunday and I was there with a very good friend

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Speaker 3: of mine. We were flying back home and we were

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Speaker 3: remarking on the fact that we have never been that

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Speaker 3: we've never been in an airport as cruddy as Queenstown Airport.

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Speaker 3: It's a man, I'm it's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 18: Right.

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Speaker 3: They've done a lot of really nice stuff with it,

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Speaker 3: But have you been if you've been there, have you

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Speaker 3: ever been there? And that has not just been a

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Speaker 3: horde of people. This was a horde of people somewhere.

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Speaker 3: Are you trying to get your bags? It's a horde

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Speaker 3: of people. You're trying to get through that horde of people.

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Speaker 3: You're going to encounter them somewhere, and you in your

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Speaker 3: trip around Queen's Town Airport, I encountered them as we

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Speaker 3: were trying to get on the plane. They were like,

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Speaker 3: it's the last call or passengers must board your and

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Speaker 3: us in unflaked to Auckland and we got there and

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Speaker 3: we were like, oh, it's last call. There's a horde

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Speaker 3: of people all trying to get on board, and that

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Speaker 3: it just took and I just thought, oh Lord, Like,

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Speaker 3: only Queenstown Airport can stuff up getting on your plane

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Speaker 3: like this. Anyway, Obviously I thought this was everybody's experience.

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Speaker 3: It clearly isn't, because it's the best airport in the

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Speaker 3: whole country.

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Speaker 9: So going to talk.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to them and try to understand

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Speaker 3: this when they're with us. In twenty minutes time, Heather,

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Speaker 3: when labour starts putting out policy. I think the polls

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Speaker 3: will turn back to the right. I think Steve is

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Speaker 3: right there because when Labour starts putting out policy, they're

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Speaker 3: going to put out their capital gains tax and we're

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Speaker 3: all going to go, h nah, not this time, not

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Speaker 3: like last time, not this time. So we'll see how

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Speaker 3: that goes. Anyway, I will talk about that short They're

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Speaker 3: also going to talk about the ocr Double Cut News

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Speaker 3: Talks EP.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can try the trunk. Do

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Speaker 2: you ask the questions, you get the answers, find the

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Speaker 2: sack and give the analysis. Hither DUPICL and drive with

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile NEWSTALKSV.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. The Reserve Bank has finally dropped a double cusps,

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Speaker 3: taking the official cash rate to two point five percent.

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Speaker 3: The bank says it's also open to further reductions. Jared

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Speaker 3: Kerr is Keiwi Bank's chief economist.

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Speaker 21: Hi, Jared, Good evening.

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Speaker 3: I mean some of us were expecting it, but it's

747
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Speaker 3: still surprising.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised, No, we weren't.

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Speaker 17: We thought it was needed and the Reserve Bank has

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Speaker 17: finally sort of realized that, yeah, hey, look we need

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Speaker 17: to take in straight into stimatory territory, and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Will it give us the confidence to spend like they

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Speaker 3: hope it will?

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Speaker 17: It will certainly help.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it'll certainly help.

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Speaker 17: And we expect things to pick up over summer as

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Speaker 17: a result of these rate cuts. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are you still expecting twenty five in November?

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Speaker 10: Here we are.

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Speaker 17: I don't think the job's done just quite just yet.

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Speaker 17: It'd be great to get the cash right down to

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Speaker 17: two and a quarter and then we'll think about whether

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Speaker 17: we need it to go down to two in February.

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Speaker 17: It'll all come down the house, things play out over summer.

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Speaker 3: Are you seeing this as an acknowledgment that they got

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Speaker 3: it wrong?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Yeah. They told us they didn't need to cut further

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Speaker 17: earlier in the year, and here they are cutting further.

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Speaker 17: So it's disappointing that this two and a half percent

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Speaker 17: cash right wasn't delivered six months ago because it would

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Speaker 17: have fed through by now. But we've got it today

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Speaker 17: and it's going to feed through over the next six months.

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Speaker 3: So would you because we had a double cut in

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Speaker 3: what was it, February? So would you have actually double

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Speaker 3: cut again in April?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, that's what we were calling for. We've been calling

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Speaker 17: for two and a half percent cash rates two years.

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Speaker 17: We knew it needed to go below neutral, which is three,

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Speaker 17: and we needed to get some stimulus into the economy

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Speaker 17: to really ignite the recovery. We haven't got it. The

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Speaker 17: economy is still spluttering. We're still in a recession, and

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Speaker 17: that just shouldn't have been the case.

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Speaker 3: Some say that this double cut may in fact spook

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Speaker 3: people because people are already so nervous. What are the chances?

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Speaker 17: No, I don't believe in that at all. I think

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Speaker 17: people will take it for what it is. They'll see

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Speaker 17: their mortgage rates falling, they'll see their business lending rates falling,

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Speaker 17: and there'll be a sigh of relief. You know, it'll

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Speaker 17: free up cash for them to do what they haven't

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Speaker 17: been able to do up until now.

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Speaker 3: So, Jared, what are you picking for the economy next year?

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Speaker 17: Look, we think we get the recovery which we should

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Speaker 17: have got this year. We think you'll see growth of

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Speaker 17: around one to two percent next year, so a significant

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Speaker 17: improvement and what we've had, and then you know, things

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Speaker 17: will continue into two thousand and seven as we sort

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Speaker 17: of pick ourselves up off the ground.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Jared, Thanks very much appreciated. Jared Kirky, we

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Speaker 3: Banks chief Economists, who has actually been right the whole

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Speaker 3: way through. Heather wind Does, the new boss of the

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Speaker 3: rbnz'st Mark. I think she starts in December, but her

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Speaker 3: first call will be in I think the new year,

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Speaker 3: ten past five.

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Speaker 1: Heather do for c Ellen right, We're going to.

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Speaker 3: Get Ben Ben Thomas is not answering the phone to

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Speaker 3: talk about the pole. If you know Ben Thomas, can

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Speaker 3: you get Ben Thomas to because it's not a surprise,

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Speaker 3: not a surprise really and at all. If you could

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Speaker 3: get Ben Thomas to answer the phone, that'll be fantastic.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime, I'm going to run you through the

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Speaker 3: results of the pole if you haven't already heard it.

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Speaker 3: This is the Taxpayer Union Curier poll nets are unfortunately

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Speaker 3: for the first time in the two's twenty nine points

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Speaker 3: six down three and a half points. New Zealand First

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Speaker 3: has gained a lot of that. They're up to and

818
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Speaker 3: a half points. That's I think it's close to eleven

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Speaker 3: acts down ever so slightly just under seven. Labor is

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Speaker 3: now the biggest party on thirty one. Greens are on twelve.

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Speaker 3: Malori parties on four and a half, Former National Party

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Speaker 3: staffer Ben Thomas has answered the phone and is with

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Speaker 3: us Hello, Ben Kota, what are you putting this down to?

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Speaker 3: Is this just reacting to the GDP shock.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't think it's the GDP shock, you know,

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Speaker 10: in terms of the release of a statistic. I think

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Speaker 10: it's just the continuation of really tough economic times that

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Speaker 10: there hasn't been a lot of let up for for voters.

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Speaker 10: You know, since this government came into power two years ago.

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Speaker 3: Does this if you believe that, then do you think

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Speaker 3: it turns around when the economy picks up.

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Speaker 10: I mean you would have to expect that there would

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Speaker 10: be some kind of bump, you know, when touching would

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Speaker 10: we're going to say when the economy picks up. You know, Look,

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Speaker 10: there is a problem in the sense that I guess

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Speaker 10: the National Party leadership, which is the part of the

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Speaker 10: government that's most identified with the economy for its reasons,

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Speaker 10: the Prime Minister and the Finance Minister have been sort

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Speaker 10: of almost doing the opposite of the chicken little thing, saying,

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Speaker 10: you know, the economy is recovering, the economies are recovering.

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Speaker 10: People have not tended to see it happening, and so

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Speaker 10: that kind of erodes credibility and leadership and reputations for

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Speaker 10: economic management and those sorts of things that you see

844
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Speaker 10: at other surveys and poles and so, Look, I think

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Speaker 10: it does have you know, a long term wearing effect

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Speaker 10: probably as well. But I think that once the economy

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Speaker 10: starts going, things would have to start looking up for

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Speaker 10: the government.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Luxin's in trouble on these numbers?

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Speaker 10: Look, as a prime minister, you wouldn't want to see

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Speaker 10: many polls where your party was in the twenties, you know,

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Speaker 10: even just barely dipping under. Now, you know that is

853
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Speaker 10: a sort of psychological threshold.

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Speaker 3: Well because also I mean some in Bridges, not a

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Speaker 3: prime minister, but the leader. Some in Bridges was rolled

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Speaker 3: on twenty nine.

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Speaker 10: Simon Bridges, I think was rolled on thirty nine, twenty.

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Speaker 3: Nine on the one news Callma Brunton Pole.

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Speaker 10: Oh was it okay?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I mean we used to be sort of, you know,

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Speaker 10: thinking that anything in the you know, in the middle

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Speaker 10: low thirties was a disaster for a National Party leader. Look,

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Speaker 10: the thing is that at this point, although the trend

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Speaker 10: is certainly going against the government and the National Party

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Speaker 10: in particular when you look at the raw numbers, when

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Speaker 10: you look at the likely election results, it's still very

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Speaker 10: much a toss up. You would say, this upside coming

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Speaker 10: when if the economic recovery really kicks in. And so

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Speaker 10: there is a lot of risk if you were going

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Speaker 10: to change a leader. You know, if you were starting

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Speaker 10: from scratch, if there was a terrible accident that wiped

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Speaker 10: out the entire caucus or something like that, you know,

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Speaker 10: would Christopher Luxen be the person that you would choose.

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Speaker 10: Probably not at this point. On the other hand, there's

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Speaker 10: a lot of risk attendant. You know, you might get

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Speaker 10: your Cinder Dun, you might get Todd Muller. It is

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Speaker 10: hard to tell how people will perform in those roles

879
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Speaker 10: or how the public will perceive sort of you know,

880
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Speaker 10: the perception of instability. And so right now you see

881
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Speaker 10: and it's not just National labor as well. It is

882
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Speaker 10: hardly performing at historic or heroic eyes. They're in the

883
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Speaker 10: low low thirties, and so it's almost a bit of

884
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Speaker 10: a race to the bottom. But again same issue, probably

885
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Speaker 10: a fifty to fifty chance if an election was held

886
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Speaker 10: yet tomorrow, that they would win and former government and

887
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Speaker 10: so it's almost what you know, if you're a physicist,

888
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Speaker 10: you could call a very very non dynamic equilibrium where

889
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Speaker 10: the risks could be are perceived to probably outweigh the

890
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Speaker 10: upsides of any kind of big change or gamble.

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Speaker 3: Ben, thank you, has always appreciated Ben Thomas, former National

892
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Speaker 3: Party staff. But by the way, here is Chris Luxen.

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Speaker 7: It's been, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 16: At a tough time, New Zanders voted and our government

895
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Speaker 16: to af fix the economy and.

896
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Speaker 7: Get it growing.

897
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Speaker 1: We work incredibly hard to do it.

898
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Speaker 7: I don't deny it's been difficult and it's still tough.

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Speaker 3: Heather. Remember John Keith. This is just on the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 3: Remember John Key got pilloried because he said the Reserve

901
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Speaker 3: Bank should drop the rate by one percent. Yeah, we

902
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Speaker 3: all looked at that and went, oh that's bold. Well

903
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Speaker 3: I think actually since then they have dropped the rate

904
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Speaker 3: by as he said, one percent. Let's deal with Queenstown

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Speaker 3: Airport next quarter pass. Now, if you're a pino lover,

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Speaker 1: Six two Heather do for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen past five. Now New Zealand's best large airport is

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Speaker 3: not Auckland, not Wellington, not christ Church, Queenstown. Judges from

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Airport's Awards said the airport had exceptional

935
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Speaker 3: performance across safety, commercial and community outcomes, and that they

936
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Speaker 3: were particularly impressed with Queenstown's new end of runway safety system.

937
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Speaker 3: Todd Grace is the airport's chief operating officer and with

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Speaker 3: us Hello Todd, Hello here, how are you very well?

939
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Speaker 3: Thank you? Congrats?

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Speaker 22: Have you guys celebrated, Yes, we're starting to celebrate. I

941
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Speaker 22: think the team that we're up in Blend last night

942
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Speaker 22: may have celebrated into the wee small hours. So we're

943
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Speaker 22: going to do something with the team over the next

944
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Speaker 22: couple of days.

945
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Speaker 6: But we're really pleased.

946
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Speaker 3: Okay, so were you expecting it?

947
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Speaker 22: You never really expected and we're relatively smaller airported in

948
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Speaker 22: the large yearport category, but you know, we've done a

949
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Speaker 22: great job and you know we've grown back really strong

950
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Speaker 22: post COVID. We're about the only airport in New Zealand

951
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Speaker 22: that is back past pre COVID levels where it's at

952
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Speaker 22: one hundred and twenty percent of COVID, So and you know,

953
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Speaker 22: our customers love coming here, the airlines love coming here.

954
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Speaker 22: In the region has a lot to offer. So I

955
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Speaker 22: think we think we do a really good job.

956
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I love what you've done with some of

957
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Speaker 3: the new stuff and the new toilets that you've made

958
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Speaker 3: in the departure lounge. Is it looks really great. But Todd,

959
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Speaker 3: I was a little surprised because I was there on

960
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Speaker 3: Sunday and we were talking about how it's always chaotic

961
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Speaker 3: at Queenstown Airport. Why is it always chaotic at Queenstown Airport.

962
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Speaker 22: Well, we do have these peaks in the afternoon, and

963
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Speaker 22: you know, we suffer from our own popularity, and so

964
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Speaker 22: we know that we've got quite a lot of work

965
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Speaker 22: ahead of us and we're really just at the beginning

966
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Speaker 22: of that. So some of the things that we've done

967
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Speaker 22: have been to improve the customer experience and get the

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Speaker 22: airfield working right.

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Speaker 3: And we've got just need more space, don't you Because

970
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Speaker 3: you know, you go you go to the screening gates,

971
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Speaker 3: you go through that weird like little rat race thing

972
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Speaker 3: that you do, and then you're like straight into the

973
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Speaker 3: screening space and then out the other and it's just

974
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Speaker 3: so tight. Isn't that your problem?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we do.

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Speaker 22: We absolutely need more space. And and we're probably one

977
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Speaker 22: of those airports that suffered from about to start something

978
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Speaker 22: pre COVID and the wheel changes and we come back

979
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Speaker 22: from COVID and it all bounces back. So we're just

980
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Speaker 22: at the beginning of that. And we know that at

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Speaker 22: certain times of the day it is tight. And that's

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Speaker 22: why we have a plan and we've and we've worked

983
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Speaker 22: through that through with airlines about how to develop the

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Speaker 22: terminal and how to grow more space.

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Speaker 6: Infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: You put the corral club on the right side of

987
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Speaker 3: the screening a that stops.

988
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Speaker 22: That stops that mad rush to screening. But you know

989
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Speaker 22: infrastructure and airports, as most airports around the world. Fine,

990
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Speaker 22: it takes time to get stuff and.

991
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Speaker 6: Get to live it.

992
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Speaker 3: Hey will listen. Thanks, And I'm a little bit sorry

993
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Speaker 3: that I introduced a negative I am sorry that I

994
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Speaker 3: introduced a negative tone to your when you deserve it, obviously, Todd,

995
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Speaker 3: because I'm not the judges. They are. Todd Grace, chief

996
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: operating office at Queenstown Airport. Right, let's deal with Truan.

997
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Speaker 3: I've got some good news on the Truancy stand by

998
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Speaker 3: five twenty.

999
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Speaker 1: One, hard questions, strong opinion.

1000
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Speaker 2: Here the duplicy el and drive with one New Zealand

1001
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Speaker 2: and the power of satellite mobile news talks, they'd be.

1002
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Speaker 3: We have Mark Robinson, boss of the Rugby on banning

1003
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Speaker 3: any of those players going to the Saudi League from

1004
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Speaker 3: playing for the All Blacks five point twenty four. I've

1005
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Speaker 3: got some good news for you on the truancyy. It

1006
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Speaker 3: looks like we're actually getting somewhere with getting the kids

1007
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Speaker 3: back into the class. There's the RO report which has

1008
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Speaker 3: come out today showing attendance is now back to pre

1009
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Speaker 3: COVID levels. We have more kids thinking that daily attendance

1010
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Speaker 3: is important than the number of kids who thought that

1011
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: about three three years ago, and we have more kids

1012
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Speaker 3: now never wanting to miss school. Now, this doesn't mean

1013
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: that the problem is solved.

1014
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Speaker 1: It's not.

1015
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Speaker 3: We still have a way to go. Even on these numbers.

1016
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Speaker 3: Our goal is to get regular attendance back to eighty percent.

1017
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Speaker 3: It has improved, but it is still languishing at fifty

1018
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: eight percent, so you can see the gap there as massive.

1019
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: What I think is really interesting is what comes next.

1020
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Speaker 3: Before you think that this is not a me problem.

1021
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Speaker 3: This is a problem with Darrow parents who can't be

1022
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Speaker 3: bothered getting their kids off the couch. Actually, the biggest problem,

1023
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Speaker 3: according to this report is parents in nice areas pulling

1024
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Speaker 3: their kids out of school during term time for a

1025
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Speaker 3: nice little holiday in Fiji or maybe Queenstown. So parents,

1026
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Speaker 3: nice parents need to lift their game and before educators think, yeah,

1027
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: that's right, it's the parents problem. Actually, how about the

1028
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Speaker 3: educators set a bit of an example here as well,

1029
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Speaker 3: because right now, if you've been following what's going on

1030
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Speaker 3: with the teacher strike, they are striking in part because

1031
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Speaker 3: they do not want to have to come in during

1032
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Speaker 3: their extensive holiday time to do work in class, even

1033
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Speaker 3: though they paid. They would rather be doing teacher only

1034
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: days during term time. Now, what it seems to me

1035
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Speaker 3: is that in both cases here it's the adults who

1036
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Speaker 3: the kids are doing their bit. By the looks of things,

1037
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Speaker 3: it's the adults here who need to set the example.

1038
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Speaker 3: Teacher training during your break, not in the school at

1039
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Speaker 3: the term time. That cuts down kids learning. Take your

1040
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Speaker 3: kid on holiday by all means, but how about you

1041
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: try doing it during the holiday. Yes, it's expensive, but

1042
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: how about you try doing it in the holidays and

1043
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: teaching your kids to prioritize schooling. The good news is

1044
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Speaker 3: that we are getting some wins. The bad news as adults,

1045
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: still have a little bit of work.

1046
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Speaker 1: To do here, Heather du pusy Ellen Heather.

1047
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Speaker 3: As a pilot, I'm quite surprised about the Queenstown Airport

1048
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: award because the airport is actually a nightmare. It's too

1049
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: small for the number of people and planes. So it's

1050
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Speaker 3: not just me thank you. Now, I just wouldn't give

1051
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: Tory Farno a little bit of credit here because I

1052
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Speaker 3: thought that her valedictory speech to the council today was

1053
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Speaker 3: surprisingly gracious to the fellow counselors, given how much fighting

1054
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Speaker 3: there has been between them.

1055
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Speaker 19: To Diane, your opposition has been particularly strong, and if

1056
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Speaker 19: you've become the mayor, I can't wait to be yours.

1057
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 19: To ray Tony and Nicola, we've rarely seen eye to eye,

1058
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Speaker 19: but I do respect that the fight that you bring

1059
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 19: to the table and the way that you stand up

1060
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Speaker 19: for your communities.

1061
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: Now to I mean's Tory. So she did go on

1062
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Speaker 3: to be a little bit less gracious to the government

1063
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: and a little bit less gracious to some very capable

1064
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Speaker 3: and wonderful former mayors like Kerry, Brenda Gasten, Fran Wilde

1065
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Speaker 3: and so on. I mean, she's not naming them, but

1066
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Speaker 3: I am for you just so you know the caliber

1067
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Speaker 3: of the people. So she was less gracious to them.

1068
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Speaker 3: But then you know, to be fair to her, it

1069
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Speaker 3: was valid what she said about in both cases. What

1070
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Speaker 3: I thought when I listened to her speaking today was

1071
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Speaker 3: it would have been nice to see more of this Tory.

1072
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Speaker 3: We saw a lot of Tory getting in trouble because

1073
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Speaker 3: she was two boozed, not paying her bill, Tory complaining

1074
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Speaker 3: about being whatever it was like, what was she adhd

1075
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Speaker 3: I don't know, not turning up to like being a

1076
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Speaker 3: slacker and not turning up to work. All of that

1077
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: stuff was so negative. If we're seeing a bit more

1078
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: of this gracious Tory, like it might have put her

1079
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: in done her a little bit of good anyway, Mark Robinson,

1080
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Speaker 3: next News Talks'd be.

1081
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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

1082
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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duper c Ellen Drive were one New Zealand

1083
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Speaker 2: coverage like no one else newth Talks, there'd be.

1084
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Speaker 3: K you're going to want to hear about this report

1085
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Speaker 3: that we've got our hot little hands on. One in

1086
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Speaker 3: ten homes are at risk of the getting flooded in

1087
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Speaker 3: this country. We'll talk about that after six. Heather as

1088
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Speaker 3: an ECEE teacher at a public kindy, we have to

1089
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Speaker 3: do personal development professional development every school holidays for the

1090
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Speaker 3: second week. We don't have two week holidays, only one

1091
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Speaker 3: as in like they take one week's holiday, then they

1092
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Speaker 3: come back for the second week and they do the

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Speaker 3: professional development. I can't see why primary teachers can't do

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00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: this too. And also we always back. We're always back

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Speaker 3: on the twentieth of January, so it's just four weeks

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Speaker 3: at Christmas, not six. Do you know what my son

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Speaker 3: is in kindy? That's exactly how they operate and if

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00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: we can we treat kindy exactly the way that we

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00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: treat Kendy is how we should be treating higher education,

1100
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Speaker 3: which some of us may argue is even more important.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four away from six huddles standing by now, rugby

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Speaker 3: unions across the world have declared war on the new

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Speaker 3: Saudi backed Rebel league. They've banned any place who take

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Speaker 3: up the contract from playing for the All Blacks, the

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Speaker 3: spring Box, the Wallabies, any other national team. The CEO

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand Rugby is Mark Robinson.

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Speaker 6: Harmark Heather Hike?

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Speaker 18: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you? So are you banning someone

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Speaker 3: from being an All Black if they've played in the league,

1111
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 3: like while they're playing in the league, or if they've

1112
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Speaker 3: ever played in the league.

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Speaker 21: Look, no, this is not a change to anything we've

1114
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Speaker 21: done historically. Our eligibility criteria will remain exactly the same.

1115
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Speaker 21: So we obviously sleep players out of our own domestic competitions,

1116
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 21: and if players choose to play the club rug the overseas,

1117
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Speaker 21: then they're not eligible for.

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00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 3: The right going to play for Japan.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it is, I mean the reason I guess there's

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Speaker 21: a bit of wider context here around joining as a

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Speaker 21: signatory to the statement put out from national unions overnight.

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Speaker 21: It doesn't change our policy in this space at all.

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Speaker 21: But why we joined the list was basically to signal

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Speaker 21: some concerns and questions about the R three sixty competition

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Speaker 21: and to put out a unified position from national unions.

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Speaker 21: A lot of those national unions haven't been or aren't

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Speaker 21: always as clear or public as we are because of

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Speaker 21: the scrutiny that sits in New Zealand about this policy,

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Speaker 21: so they wanted to from perspective, So you.

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Speaker 3: Guys, you guys are being consistent. But the likes of Australia,

1131
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 3: where they do select overseas based players, they are taking

1132
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: a different stance, aren't they.

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00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 21: Well yeah, it's it's for Australia or other countries to

1134
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Speaker 21: speak to that.

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Speaker 3: But can you explain to me why why are the

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00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 3: why why is wild rugby? These rugby unions banded together

1137
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: to take such a hard line on the Saudi Back League.

1138
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 21: Well, it's not like I say, from our position, England's position,

1139
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 21: there are a number of countries where this is very

1140
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 21: France Island, that's very consistent with what they've done historically.

1141
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 21: I think the key part of the point, apart from

1142
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 21: eligibility is to form the statement, is to outline the

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00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 21: roles of national union and the roles that we have

1144
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 21: to what we call a whole of game approach around

1145
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 21: investing in community rugby, volunteers, referees, you know a wide

1146
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 21: range of activities which we want to just signore some

1147
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 21: concern about if the league comes into the rugby ecosystem

1148
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 21: and is not clear on how it wants to invest

1149
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 21: in the wider game, what the impact of that can.

1150
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 3: Have Have you read Grant Robertson's book No. Page two

1151
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: hundred and forty three in the halftime break?

1152
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Speaker 21: What has he got a view on our three sixty

1153
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 21: or something?

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00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 3: No, listen to this Mark. In the halftime break, I

1155
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: confronted New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson in the big

1156
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: reception room at Eden Park about the absence of senior

1157
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby people in fung at A. This is

1158
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: during the Women's World Cup tournament. Our conversation grew a

1159
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: bit heated. Mark was very defensive about how much work

1160
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Speaker 3: they had put into the tournament. I felt the investment

1161
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. He reckons. He realized that

1162
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: people in the room had stepped several meters away, and

1163
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: on reflection, I was probably being a bit overly. Do

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00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: you remember that?

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00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 7: Really?

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Speaker 21: Now? I don't recall ever having anything too heated with Grant.

1167
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Speaker 21: What I would say, though, is that I'm glad that

1168
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 21: he recognized we did an amazing job to get the

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Speaker 21: tournament here, considering what other countries put on the table

1170
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 21: from a government investment point of view, that we managed

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Speaker 21: to get it here. So I'm glad that got recognized.

1172
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Speaker 21: But they always had a lot of time for Grant

1173
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 21: and had a lot of fun to around some great

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00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 21: sporting events around the world.

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Speaker 3: Nicely handled. Mark Mark Robinson, the CEO of New Zealand Rugby.

1176
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: It's twenty away from six.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your

1178
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: one of a kind on the.

1179
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Speaker 3: Huddle with us this evening we have Mark Sainsbury broadcaster

1180
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Speaker 3: Jordan Williams Taxpayers Union. Highlads, you hear that right saying so.

1181
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: I mean it's pretty clear that if they're taking the

1182
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: stance on the players, they're worried about that league, aren't they?

1183
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 23: Of course, just have a look at live golf. I

1184
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 23: was talking to some people, well who I suspect on

1185
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 23: the lessen the periphery of this, and said, well, it's

1186
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 23: the golden rule. Whoever's got the gold rules? And you're

1187
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 23: talking about a bottomless pit of money?

1188
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are they worried about?

1189
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 7: Surely?

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Speaker 23: Well the other thing is surely one of the first

1191
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 23: things when they were setting this thing.

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Speaker 7: Up they must have thought, right, what are the rugman

1193
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 7: unions going to do?

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Speaker 23: Well, I'll say you're not going to be test eligible,

1195
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 23: so all the stuff would have been through. So are

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00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 23: they going to end up having to if there's a

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Speaker 23: hemorrhage of players, then.

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Speaker 7: They're going to have to be the same as for

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Speaker 7: the golf. You're going to have to deal with the devil.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what, Jordan, I don't think that the

1201
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: span is going to make a difference because it sounds

1202
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: like the kind of players that they're hoovering up are

1203
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: Roger twy us a checks right, who've had a crack

1204
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: at playing in the black jersey. It didn't work, and

1205
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: so he's got nothing to lose.

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00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm just not convinced competing leagues are bad for

1207
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 18: viewers all for players. Yeah, and that's why they're worried,

1208
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 18: you know. No, they're in a dominant position. Latch competition

1209
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 18: coming along.

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00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 3: Yeah too, right now, Soons, how do you feel about

1211
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: that double cut You happy?

1212
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 7: Oh? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes?

1213
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean did you just lose concentration?

1214
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 18: No?

1215
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 7: No, no, no no.

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00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 23: When you said double cutters, I suddenly thought under anyways.

1217
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 23: But but yeah, I mean it's interesting again, I mean

1218
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 23: that people sort of isn't it funny? Just has something

1219
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 23: like that can just change the mood. So people are

1220
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 23: already saying we may finally start to see the green

1221
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 23: shoots coming through.

1222
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 7: You know, that's that's that's the feeling. But you know,

1223
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 7: maybe things are turning.

1224
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: Yep, Jordan, I reckon it's eight going to work, but

1225
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: it is be like Jared kur said an admission of

1226
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: having made a mistake by the Reserve Bank.

1227
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 18: Yeah, you're going to hear the corks and the beehive

1228
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 18: down the road from this, but it's pretty risky. You know,

1229
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 18: we two point seven are not. But at the upper

1230
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 18: end of the of the band, there is some risk

1231
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 18: with this. And this is a bank that you know

1232
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 18: only recently has seriously overshot. It doesn't fix the fundamentals

1233
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 18: which really needs to be done. But on the in

1234
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 18: the beehive, and that is you know, get on top

1235
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 18: of inflationary government spending. This is a be a good

1236
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 18: sugar hit and cheap money means that you know, we

1237
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 18: should get back to growth. But fundamentally it doesn't get

1238
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 18: doesn't it doesn't get any gill and back on track.

1239
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason that the bee hives will be popping

1240
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: the corks is because of that in part because of

1241
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: that poll today, right, how much trouble are they in

1242
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: if they're in the NATS to start with the two.

1243
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 18: Well, I mean that's so very naturally I call the

1244
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 18: various party leaders or party leaders officers depending of his

1245
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 18: oppositional government to give them a heads up on the pole.

1246
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 18: Really as a market respects to us before we put

1247
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 18: it out, I could laugh at the I'm not going

1248
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 18: to I'm not going to dock them. But the very

1249
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 18: senior National Party person he said twenty nine point six.

1250
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 18: You can round that to thirty, can't.

1251
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: You, Because it's an acknowledgment that it is a really

1252
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: bad thing.

1253
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 18: Right, Yeah, that's a pretty you know, it is a cycle.

1254
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 18: I mean, reality doesn't really matter. I mean both Labor

1255
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 18: and National were down. National we're down to smudge more

1256
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 18: three and a half points. I mean, but it's been

1257
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 18: a terrible four weeks for the government. I mean, that's

1258
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 18: so giggy numbers alone. You pointed out very well here

1259
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 18: there in the weekend on energy that if this government

1260
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 18: does go down next year, it's not going to be

1261
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 18: because they have done too much. It's that they haven't

1262
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 18: hit the go button fast enough and they're not doing enough.

1263
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, Yeah, that's a theme that's

1264
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: coming through, isn't it saying? So what do you reckon?

1265
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: You've watched your fair amount of pot like your fair

1266
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: share of politics. How bad is it for these guys?

1267
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 23: Well, well, one of the things I noted was that

1268
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 23: when our.

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00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 7: Preferred PM is getting twenty point.

1270
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 23: Nine percent less top of the pile, you've got a

1271
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 23: bit of a christ of confidence. I think you look

1272
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 23: at I mean Christopher Lexi modeled himself and John Key.

1273
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 7: You look at when John keevers PM.

1274
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 23: I don't think sixty five percenty peak to one stage,

1275
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 23: it's just to and.

1276
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 7: It continued going up until he decided to go.

1277
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 23: Although I did think KRYSTALH. Lexon took the right approach,

1278
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 23: because what else can you do. You've got to say,

1279
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 23: hang on, we've been elected to do this. The election's

1280
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 23: still some time away, come and see us. Then you

1281
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 23: have to explain yourself every single time. You know, it's

1282
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 23: the old explaining is losing. But I thought he took

1283
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 23: the right approach, but the delivery was terrible.

1284
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 18: They haven't delivered what they were elected to do, says

1285
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 18: I mean, they were elected to take.

1286
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 7: All government spending. They've taken the political hit for doing.

1287
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 18: It, but they haven't had the economic upside because they haven't.

1288
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 18: They're elected to tackle the co government stuff and the

1289
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 18: divisive stuff we had from the last government, and everyone

1290
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 18: can see they don't really stand for what they said

1291
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 18: they would.

1292
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: That's fair, isn't it says that?

1293
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, look it's I mean, it's a bit of

1294
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 23: a I don't think I've quite seen it like this before.

1295
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 7: You know it it is.

1296
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 23: But but again, the thing is, you've got to keep thinking.

1297
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 23: It's not like the government's going to change overnight or

1298
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 23: they're going to roll Christopher Luxen, you know, I mean,

1299
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 23: things are going to carry on, So you've got to

1300
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 23: sort of weather it and you have some confidence that

1301
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 23: what you're doing is actually the right plan.

1302
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 10: Now.

1303
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: The only worry is it may not be the right plan.

1304
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: Well running, what were you saying, Jordan, Well there running.

1305
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 7: At a time.

1306
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 18: Nicolae Willison has got one more budget, but next year's

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Speaker 18: budget will be too late. Yeah, she really needs to know,

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Speaker 18: I would argue do a spring statement.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well jeez, that's bold. Okay, let's take a

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Speaker 3: break and we'll come back and talk a little bit

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Speaker 3: more about what's going on with them. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Holidays Quarters to.

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Speaker 2: Six The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, the

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Speaker 2: global leader in luxury real estate.

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Speaker 3: Right back with the Huddle, Jordan Williams Mark Sainsbury, Jordan,

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Speaker 3: are you as surprised as I am that that Queen's

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00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: down Airport's taken out that award?

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 18: Queen sotwnds are Queen sounds probably the best airport because

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00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 18: it's really until they put those damn neody scanners in,

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00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 18: it was always very quick to get kept through.

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me that you think Queen's Downy Airport

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Speaker 3: is better than christ Your Chairport?

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Speaker 7: Wells that equally is beautiful.

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Speaker 18: But I mean I I just throw in a league

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Speaker 18: of their own because Aukland domestic is such a national embarrassment.

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Speaker 3: Wellington is not that bad the fine Okay, so hold on,

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Speaker 3: you've actually admitted that they're there are three great airports.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and also Wellington the security can often take ages,

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Speaker 18: but that's because there's so many politicians damming it out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sans so helped me out here. I'm surprised. Are

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Speaker 3: you surprised?

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Speaker 23: Well, well, listen, I can remember welling to the airport

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Speaker 23: used to be a converted Tiger off factory.

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Speaker 7: Before they actually rebuilt, so that you always used to be.

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Speaker 23: The great embarrassment of the airports. It's funny, we have

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Speaker 23: a funny relationship with the airports, isn't it. It sort

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Speaker 23: of a you know, we we sort of take them personally.

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Speaker 23: I quite like Queenstown. I think it's all right, and

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Speaker 23: I mean you get that that. I know exactly what

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Speaker 23: you mean, that little rat run. But I've always had

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Speaker 23: a reasonably good time there, don't.

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Speaker 3: You find those things so that when you get to

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Speaker 3: Queensland Airport there will be a horde of people at

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Speaker 3: some point, Like there will be people chaos at some point.

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Speaker 3: It's just where it is. So you could be if

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Speaker 3: you're putting your bag in. It could be when you're

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Speaker 3: going through and scan. It could be when you're getting

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Speaker 3: on the plane. But you're going to get it somewhere.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, but it's it's like it does feel like sort

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Speaker 23: of a holiday airport, doesn't it.

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Speaker 7: It feels like that's why we like.

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Speaker 3: It, Yeah, because it represents a break for us. Jordan,

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Speaker 3: what do you think about this idea? One of the

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Speaker 3: ideas that the e r O has pitched for dealing

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Speaker 3: with truancy because all the nice parents are taking their

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Speaker 3: nice kids off to you know, Fiji during term time

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Speaker 3: is to stagger the school holidays throughout the country, so

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Speaker 3: we don't just get everybody go in go into Fiji

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Speaker 3: at once. What do you think of that?

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Speaker 18: You kind of have that in Auckland because often the

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Speaker 18: private schools are slightly different, and I think if you've

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Speaker 18: got kids stagger between schools that would be that could

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Speaker 18: make the problem even worse. How So, well, if you've

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Speaker 18: got kids on on one holiday program and and a

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Speaker 18: kid at another school, know what.

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Speaker 3: They were meaning is region, They mean it's regional. So

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Speaker 3: like region Auckland has its holidays, then Wellington has maybe

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Speaker 3: slightly different by a week christ.

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Speaker 7: When you like that, then if an event, if.

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Speaker 23: You're planning a major event to a tract, you know,

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Speaker 23: school school kids could be a sport in competitions or whatever.

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Speaker 23: Now all of a sudden you've got a problem because

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Speaker 23: are not all on the holiday.

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Speaker 3: Well, and this does happen a lot, doesn't it. You've

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Speaker 3: got into school stuff and you've got school programs that

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Speaker 3: people out would bound all that kind of carry on.

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Speaker 3: I suppose same though as a Wellingtonian. How did you

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Speaker 3: feel about Tori Farno's speech, because I thought it was

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Speaker 3: actually surprisingly gracious.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I thought it was too. I mean the initial

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Speaker 23: sort of reporting of it, so it was that there

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Speaker 23: was going to be this huge utu was coming and etcetera.

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Speaker 23: But yeah, and you've got a bit of humor and

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Speaker 23: why do you do your best performance almost on your

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Speaker 23: last day?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, do you feel like you've kind of missed

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Speaker 3: out on what could have been?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Look, look I do also think I mean, she got

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Speaker 23: a really really hard time, a hard time that she

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Speaker 23: was asking for. Some of it was self inflicted either,

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Speaker 23: but some of it I wouldn't have got it, you

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Speaker 23: know what I mean. I think it's it was a

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Speaker 23: lot of it was because she was you.

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Speaker 3: Know, well, I don't know it. Sain Zoe, I mean

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Speaker 3: would come off at Sines. I mean, you might have

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Speaker 3: been back in the day. Back in the day, you

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Speaker 3: might have been drunk enough to not pay a bill,

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Speaker 3: and maybe you would have got a lighter run than her,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think that you would have gone out

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01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: and pinned all of you, you know, made excuses for

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01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 3: yourself because you suddenly had ADHD that doesn't strike me

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01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: as something you do well.

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Speaker 7: You do if you end up in that situation.

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Speaker 3: I guess, Jordan, what do you think.

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Speaker 18: Like I've got in trouble before because I've defended Tory

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Speaker 18: and people have jumped down my throat.

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Speaker 7: The thing is with with Toy, she sometimes her own

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Speaker 7: roost enemy.

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Speaker 18: If she has shown grace at the end, good honor.

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Speaker 18: But I do think that running for parliament probably wouldn't

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Speaker 18: be good for New Zealand or for Tory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, listen, thank you, it's very lovely to talk

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Speaker 3: to the pair of you. Mark Sainsbury, Jordan williams our

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Speaker 3: Huddle this evening eight away from six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper See allan Drive full show podcast

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Speaker 2: on my Hard Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: It's a terrible idea for the regions sports tournaments, cousins

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Speaker 3: et cid. I mean, it's not going to happen. It

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Speaker 3: was an idea, wasn't it. It's not to happen because, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're right, the consequences of doing it, especially populations only

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01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 3: five million, right or whatever. It is Another idea from Arrow,

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01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 3: which I think is actually absolutely gonna fly and should fly.

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01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 3: Is the idea that you make no distinction between unjustified

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01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: and justified absences. So justified absences for your child is

1426
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: like if you write it and you go, sorry, Johnny

1427
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 3: sick because Johnny's got the flue. The goal that's justified

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01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: unjustified is hey, whise Johnny. Now, I don't can't be

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01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 3: bother telling you why Johnny's not here unjustified. The fact

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Speaker 3: of the matter is in both cases you make no distinction.

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 3: You just say Johnny's absent. And the reason that you

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Speaker 3: make no distinction is because parents need to start thinking

1433
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 3: about all of it as being missing time. Right, So

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01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 3: if Johnny's missed time, he's missed time. Now some of

1435
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: it he needed to miss, which means some of it

1436
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: which he didn't need to miss, he now shouldn't miss

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01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 3: because you know what I mean. So it's just kind

1438
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Speaker 3: of drumming it into them that absence is absence, regardless

1439
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: of what you'll reason for the absences, which I quite like,

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Speaker 3: Actually weird thing is going by the way, it's four

1441
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: away from six weird thing with Netball New Zealand. I

1442
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 3: feel like at this point you almost need the CA

1443
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory music that dun duntan because this could be

1444
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: something or it could be nothing. Anyway, somebody said to

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01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 3: us today with a grin. They came to us with

1446
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: a grin and they were like, hey, look at this. Okay,

1447
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 3: google Netball New Zealand Leadership team. So we did and

1448
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: there was the Google link compared there's a link to

1449
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 3: the page and they said click it and so we did.

1450
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: Oh page wasn't there? Well, they grinned at us. It's

1451
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: been taken down. Now. The leadership page is the page

1452
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: that lists all the bosses at Netball New Zealand, including

1453
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 3: the CEO boss Dun Duntane. Now, if you've been following

1454
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: the debate right, the debate has shifted from Dame Knowles,

1455
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: why is Dame Knowles going? To how badly?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: What's going on with Dame Knowles and the players has

1458
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: shifted into a question about m are we going to

1459
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Speaker 3: see the CEO lose her job because of how badly

1460
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 3: this has been handled? Anyway, So we dropped a line

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Speaker 3: to Netball New Zealand and we were like, why have

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Speaker 3: you taken down your leadership and what's going on here?

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Speaker 3: They said, it's normal maintenance. The page will be when

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Speaker 3: it has sorted it. So it would appear that there's

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Speaker 3: some normal maintenance of the website going on that effects

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Speaker 3: only that page. Could be a very awkward coincidence, a

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: very awkward coincidence. But boy, did it get somebody in

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Speaker 3: our newsroom just absolutely grinning from ear to ear today,

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Speaker 3: didn't it. We'll see what happens there could be nothing,

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Speaker 3: could be something. Okay, we are going to talk straight

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Speaker 3: after the news about the fact that one in ten

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Speaker 3: houses are apparently this is in the country apparently at

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Speaker 3: risk of flooding and what that means. Also, did you

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01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 3: see the super moon last night? Did you? I'm looking No,

1475
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 3: this German didn't even bother going outside. It was enormous,

1476
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 3: Like it was one hundred percent worth going out to

1477
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Speaker 3: look at the moon for. So if you didn't see

1478
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Speaker 3: it last night, look at it tonight. It's rising in

1479
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 3: the opposite place from the sun at just about half

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Speaker 3: past seven, and then it'll be up there for oh,

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Speaker 3: I reckon an hour and a bit before you know

1482
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Speaker 3: it hits the clouds and stuff like that. Anyway, news talks,

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Speaker 3: he'd be.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is glowing.

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Speaker 2: The business hour with Heather due for slan and mass

1486
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Speaker 2: for insurance investments and Qui saber, you're.

1487
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Speaker 1: In good hands. News talks.

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01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 7: There'd be.

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Speaker 3: Evening coming up in the next hour. Milford Asset Management

1490
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 3: is going to run us through the market. Reaction to

1491
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Speaker 3: the ocr double cut and there was significant reaction to it.

1492
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: The Banking Reform Coalition on whether the government will have

1493
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 3: to drop its planned banking reforms and Gavin Gray out

1494
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 3: of the UK for US seven past six. Now one

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Speaker 3: in ten kei we homes are at risk of getting flooded.

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Speaker 3: This is according to a new official report from the

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Speaker 3: Ministry for the Environment. It shows one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: billion dollars worth of assets are currently in flood prone

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Speaker 3: areas and thirteen hundred coastal homes are likely to experience

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Speaker 3: significant weather damage by the year twenty sixty. Allison Collins

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Speaker 3: is the Ministry for the Environment's Chief Science Advisor and

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Speaker 3: with us HI.

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Speaker 25: Allison good evening Heather.

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Speaker 3: Where are these flood prone houses?

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Speaker 25: Where are they across the country? Many in low lying

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01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 25: coastal communities and on flood chains, So yeah, a variety

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Speaker 25: of different places.

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Speaker 3: Is it really one and ten?

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Speaker 17: I think it's what.

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Speaker 25: It's two hundred and nineteen thousand residential properties, and I

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01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 25: think it's about two million, so.

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Speaker 3: It's about one and ten one in represents one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty billion dollars in assets which we cannot afford

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 3: to buy these owners out. So what do we do?

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Speaker 25: So, I mean, insurers are certainly stigling higher premiums in

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Speaker 25: high risk areas. The report that we've pulled together really

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Speaker 25: is to provide the evidence about where the risk is

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Speaker 25: and how it's increasing, so that communities, insurers, others can

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Speaker 25: make informed decisions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that they can basically what they can charge

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01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: you more for being in one of these areas basically.

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01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 25: Well, I think it's about being transparent about the risks.

1524
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 25: And then what we do with that is you know

1525
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 25: a different question.

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Speaker 3: So what do you think happens? Is it just a

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01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: case of the insurer's pricing it's so high that eventually

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01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: people have to sell.

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 25: Well, the report itself doesn't decide on funding. It just

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 25: shows what's at risk and helps target investment so costs

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 25: are wasted and exposure doesn't keep growing. Yeah, And really

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01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 25: it's there to also inform future spacial planning so that

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 25: we can avoid repeating past exposure and making sure we're

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01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 25: building in the right places in.

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01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 3: The coastal homes. Are we talking about when we're talking

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01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: about these thirteen hundred coastal homes, are they the ones

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: low lying by the beach excuse me? Or are they

1538
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 3: ones even up on cliffs?

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 25: Mostly low lying coastal areas. But it's also you have

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01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 25: to think about where you're getting sea level rise, and

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 25: so there are some areas in what we are Wellington

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 25: and Eden where they are. You know, it's just the

1543
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 25: wrong combination effect is really so you're getting subsidence, sea

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01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 25: level rise, and it's bringing all those things together.

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01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 3: Do you think people are awake enough to these risks

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 3: when they're buying property.

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 7: I'm not sure really.

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01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 25: I mean I bought my property ten or fifteen years ago.

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 25: I did look at the Limb report. That's one of

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01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 25: the reasons why we need good accessible evidence and information

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 25: so that people can make an informed decision when they're

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 25: buying property.

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough. Hey, thank you very much, Allison. I

1555
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: really appreciate Allison Collins, the Ministry for the Environment's Chief

1556
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 3: science Advisor. I mean, you think about the just think

1557
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 3: about that number, one hundred and eighty billion dollars, right,

1558
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 3: So put just for a second. Think about yourself here.

1559
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 3: If you've got one of these. If let's say you go,

1560
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: you buy yourself a nice who doesn't want a beach

1561
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 3: house right by the beach, you know, open the doors

1562
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 3: in the morning, get your cup of coffee, look at

1563
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 3: the beach. Oh yeah, you run out for a little

1564
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: swim house. Isn't that just the dream? Okay, you've now

1565
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: sunk two million. Frankly, if you're sinking only two million,

1566
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: well done you. Let's say you're sinking five million. You're

1567
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,759
Speaker 3: sinking five million. What's going to happen to you? Because

1568
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: it's all adding up to one hundred and eighty billion

1569
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 3: dollars and we cannot afford to buy everybody out, So

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01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: what do we do? So just I don't know, I

1571
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: don't know. It's a conundrum, isn't it. It's a conundrum

1572
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 3: of the time. Turns out yesterday when we said that

1573
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: the money for Adrian Or was not really a restraint

1574
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: of trade but actually more of a shut up clause,

1575
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 3: we were right. No surprise, the exit deal has been

1576
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 3: it would appear proactively released and it says the Reserve Bank,

1577
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 3: including its board and its individual members, will not disparage

1578
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 3: mister Orr and mister Or will not disparage the Reserve Bank,

1579
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: It's board, individual members of the board, the Treasury, the

1580
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 3: Minister of Finance, or the government generally. So basically, I mean,

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 3: I don't know about you. I have a restraint of

1582
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: trade right in my contract. I am not paid for

1583
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 3: my restraint to trade. I am simply required to go

1584
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 3: away and not work. So you don't actually have to

1585
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 3: pay Adrian to not do his job. It's kind of

1586
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: built into how much he's paid already. I would have

1587
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 3: thought the fact that there is money, I mean, I

1588
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: think you can see it in the way that it's structured.

1589
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: And generally what happens is if you get paid out

1590
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 3: the end of a job, right which many of us

1591
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 3: will have been done by now, where you get made

1592
01:11:58,040 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 3: redundant or whatever, and then they pay out, you get

1593
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 3: paid out immediately, and they're like, go away, I never

1594
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 3: want to hear from you again. That kind of thing.

1595
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 3: When you have a dollar that is hattler or in

1596
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 3: this case four hundred and sixteen thousand dollars that's hanging

1597
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 3: on a date for you to be a good boy

1598
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: until that date, and then you get paid. That is

1599
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 3: basically designed to keep you quiet, isn't it? But we

1600
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: can see this for what it is, can't we is

1601
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: it is a shut up clause. It's don't say anything

1602
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: about anyway. Jordan Williams of the Taxpace Union, who actually

1603
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: I should have talked to you about this when he

1604
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,919
Speaker 3: was on before, said this is a classic gag agreement

1605
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 3: designed to protect the reputations of the elite and shun

1606
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: public scrutiny. There you go. Twelve past six.

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper see Allen Drive Full Show podcast

1608
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog Zebbi.

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01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 3: Heather, have you looked at the exchange rates since the

1610
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: OCR announcement? Meaning fuel and everything which is important will

1611
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: be more expensive for Baz. Thank you very much for

1612
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 3: bringing us to this right now. It's quarter past six

1613
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: and Remi Morgan Milford Asset Management is with us. Hi,

1614
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 3: remy Hi, Heather. How did the market react to that decision? Today?

1615
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 24: We saw markets readjusting their interest rate expectations lower in

1616
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 24: response to that fifty basis point cut, and that was

1617
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 24: because it wasn't fully priced in. We saw market expectations

1618
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 24: for the November decision adjusting to fully price another twenty

1619
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 24: five basis point cut, we saw wholesale swap rates offered lower. Notably,

1620
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 24: that key two year rate was down around seven basis

1621
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 24: points shortly after the release. And the other key call

1622
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 24: out was that INZA dollar, which we can further immediately

1623
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 24: dropping around one percent against the US dollar.

1624
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1625
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 3: What about the INSIDEX have we seen any major moves there?

1626
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1627
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 24: So over the last week leading into today, the INSIDEX

1628
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 24: moved sharply upwards and finally above record highs. Again, it's

1629
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 24: only taken about four years, and that was likely in

1630
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 24: anticipation of more rate cuts to come following that week

1631
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 24: GDP print that we had the other week. Some notable

1632
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 24: moves and share prices that are up around ten percent

1633
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 24: over the past week are in cyclical retail companies like

1634
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 24: sky City and Katman, do brands, housing linked retirement companies

1635
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 24: Ryman and Somerset, and real estate companies, and that larger

1636
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 24: fifty basis point cut today further supported moves higher. We

1637
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 24: saw the index closing zero point two five percent on

1638
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 24: the day, marking a rally of over two percent the

1639
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 24: past week and closing on a fresh new high.

1640
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: How important do you think was the detail that the

1641
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank released for the market.

1642
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 24: It was just a policy announcement this time, and not

1643
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 24: a full statement with a new set of Reserve Bank

1644
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 24: forecast as we had back in August, And because it

1645
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 24: wasn't fully clear to the market which way the RBNZ

1646
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 24: would go, that made both the decision and the signals

1647
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 24: that the release sent to the market even more important. Now,

1648
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 24: the messaging signaled openness to cut further, and I think

1649
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 24: that supported that market moved lower in wholesale interest rates,

1650
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,759
Speaker 24: which helps to give that intended transmission effect.

1651
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: Okay, where do we go from here?

1652
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 24: For companies in the insedex particularly those more interest rates

1653
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 24: sensitive and consumer focused companies, there might be some further

1654
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 24: optimism to come as those lower interest rates continue to

1655
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 24: transmit through the economy. But it is important to remember

1656
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 24: that today's market reactions are a point in time reaction

1657
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 24: and developments in the data and the economy can see

1658
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 24: markets move potentially either way.

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01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: In response, Remy, thanks very much, appreciate it. Remy Morgan,

1660
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: Milford Asset Management. It's eighteen past.

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01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: Six ever due for Celan Heather.

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01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 3: If you look at the district plan of hut City Council,

1663
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: you'll see that the vast majority of properties on the

1664
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 3: valley floor in many areas of the hills are marked

1665
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 3: as flood prone. And this is despite the fact that

1666
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 3: they've never flooded in one hundred and fifty years. It's

1667
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 3: all about councils trying to mitigate any responsibility rather than

1668
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 3: actual risks, which may be the case Petter, But the

1669
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 3: trouble that's going to happen here may well be right.

1670
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if you say to me, somebody says

1671
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: that this is that the whole world is going to flood.

1672
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 3: I think the chances art's not going to flood. I

1673
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,440
Speaker 3: think we've lived long enough to know that an existential

1674
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: crisis might not really be an existential crisis. However, the

1675
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 3: trouble with these maps is now you ensure is going

1676
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 3: to look at it. Now they're going to price adjust

1677
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 3: your risk premium. And that's a pain, isn't it. That's

1678
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 3: gonna that's gonna get pricey, isn't it.

1679
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 21: Now?

1680
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: Listen about this rebel league that obviously the rugby unions

1681
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 3: around the world are freaking out about, I think and

1682
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 3: everybody has gone with the idea. And you would have

1683
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: heard say Zoe said it before, right the Golden rule

1684
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 3: is that the gold rules. Here's a counter argument to that.

1685
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 3: So it's been reported by the Sydney Morning Herald today

1686
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: that over in Ossie Pat Cummins and Travis Head, who

1687
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 3: are that what the captain and the deputy captain of

1688
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 3: their their cricket team. Both of these guys were offered

1689
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 3: nearly ten million dollars a year to each quit Australian

1690
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 3: cricket and then go play an overseas T twenty franchise

1691
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 3: leagues full time, which would have in both cases been

1692
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 3: a really significant pay rise for each of them. Generally,

1693
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,600
Speaker 3: Ossie players apparently even you know, and this is the

1694
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: ones at the top, will earn about one point five

1695
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: million dollars a year from their national contracts. Cummins gets

1696
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 3: a bit more, he gets about three million because you

1697
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: put his captaincy stipend into account and so on. But

1698
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 3: even for him paid the most three million to ten

1699
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 3: million dollars must have been incredibly tempting. Both of them

1700
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 3: said no, and they said no because they are so

1701
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 3: committed to the national team. Now, I'm not naive and

1702
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they went back to the

1703
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: cricket guys over there and they were like, this is

1704
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 3: what we've been offered. Can you pay us more? And

1705
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: got a bit more, you know, deuce that lemon, just

1706
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 3: a little bit more. That wouldn't surprise me. But there's

1707
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: no way that Australian cricket closed the gap between three

1708
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: million and ten million, you know what I mean. So

1709
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: there is an element of wanting to play for your

1710
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 3: country anyway. So even though the Rugby League the Rebel

1711
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 3: League has managed to sign up apparently two hundred players

1712
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 3: around the world, including apparently Roger Tui Vasashek, who is

1713
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: being reported in Australia as absolutely definitely going to go

1714
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: and play for the Saudi League. Even though they've managed

1715
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: to get that many, there will still be a lot

1716
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 3: of players who want to wear the black jersey or

1717
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 3: the gold jersey or the green jersey or whatever it is.

1718
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 3: So money doesn't always rule, does it. Six twenty Hey,

1719
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1729
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1730
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Speaker 3: dock rangers protect the kei we. It allows them to

1733
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Speaker 3: keep in touch with base, receive the weather updates, ask

1734
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 3: for help if they need it. As One New Zealand

1735
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 3: CEO Jason Powers says, this is about using technology to

1736
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 3: help preserve our natural heritage. It's a powerful combo of

1737
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: business smarts and environmental care, better connectivity, better conservation. When

1738
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 3: win for New Zealand, ever do for ze Islands. Heather,

1739
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: I've seen this report and it's incredibly inaccurate. It states

1740
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 3: that app this is the flood prone. It states that

1741
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 3: our property is in a floodplain. We're thirty meters above

1742
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 3: the Gray River. Now, if that river comes up thirty meters,

1743
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,919
Speaker 3: the west coast is going to be wiped out. Basically,

1744
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 3: it's very very inaccurate. Ben, thank you for that. I

1745
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of people will believe the thirty

1746
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 3: meters that's an ext oftential crisis. As now, what have

1747
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 3: I said to you in the past about weird things

1748
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: happening in Dunedin. I've got another case of weird things

1749
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 3: happening in Dunedin, this time road rage that is just wild.

1750
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 3: So what happened is yesterday in the City's CBD at

1751
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 3: about ten to one in the afternoon, right, So it's

1752
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: like at the end of lunchtime, a twenty four year

1753
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 3: old driver stops at the red light at Queen's Garden

1754
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 3: and toats at the vehicle in front of her because

1755
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 3: the lights had changed. An old mate in the car

1756
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 3: in front hadn't gone off, which is just like, guys,

1757
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 3: it's a reasonable thing to's polite. I'm assuming she she

1758
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 3: might have gone, but you never know. I mean, there's

1759
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 3: a difference in tone, right Anyway, the one in the

1760
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 3: car ahead is a forty one year old woman, so

1761
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: we've got ladies here. So The forty one year old

1762
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: woman then starts driving like a nut. She drives slowly,

1763
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 3: then she speeds up, drives slowly, then she speeds up,

1764
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 3: then she gestures. Then she won't let the driver pass

1765
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 3: it just being a complete like you know, you're not

1766
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 3: proud of that behavior, are you, forty one year old lady.

1767
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 3: So both vehicles then pull over at Highgate because they've

1768
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 3: both had a guts full and they think we're gonna

1769
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: take this to the next level. They pull over at Highgate.

1770
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: The older woman gets out of This is where it

1771
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: gets weird. The older woman gets out of her vehicle

1772
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: starts assaulting the twenty four year old victim, punches her

1773
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 3: multiple times, throws her to the ground, pulls her hair,

1774
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: and then kicks her as well. No surprise, the older

1775
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 3: woman has been arrested by the police in charge with

1776
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 3: with assault with intent to injure. She's been bailed to

1777
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 3: appear in court next week. The victim was left shaken

1778
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: from the incident, and weird things like really weirdly disproportionate

1779
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 3: things happen in Dunedin. We're starting a file on this

1780
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Speaker 3: six twenty six.

1781
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Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

1782
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: Psycho Killer by the Talking Heads, not for the forty

1783
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: one year old woman, but you know, if the shoe fits.

1784
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 3: It's about a new movie, one you need to put

1785
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 3: on your radar, this time slightly like a kid's movie,

1786
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: but possibly not. It's It's okay hit. Do you remember

1787
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 3: Twitts by Roll Daal? So Netflix are doing an animated

1788
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 3: adaptation of Twits by Roll dal And if you don't

1789
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: know which one I'm talking about, it's the one where

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01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 3: as the dirty gross couple who abuse a family of

1791
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: monkeys in the keep in the backyard. It's you know,

1792
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 3: classic kiddy stuff. The trailers just come out.

1793
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 26: What kind of.

1794
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: Story is this? Emotionally complex? You will tack all the

1795
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: condult of life with high brow themes I Need You

1796
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,440
Speaker 1: and low brow comedy.

1797
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 23: Let me show you my diarrhea.

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Speaker 5: Diorama.

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Speaker 3: What So I'm excited about it because, like anybody of

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01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 3: my age, I love Roll Dahl. Who doesn't. They've managed

1801
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 3: to rope in Emilia Clark from Game of Thrones and

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01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: also Natalie Portman, so that's not bad. David Byr from

1803
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 3: Talking Heads is going to be making the new original

1804
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: comedy Songs and I and he's doing it with Hayley

1805
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 3: from the band Paramore. So I'm a little iffy on

1806
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: the music because you know, talking heads, hidden miss. You know,

1807
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: Paramore always a miss. So that's a bit kind of

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: h for me. But hey, it's roll Dahal, it's the

1809
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 3: Twits and it's going to be available to watch in

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01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 3: just over a week on Netflix on October seventeen. How

1811
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: good is that? I just pump that up a little bit.

1812
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure that this was a hit.

1813
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Speaker 7: You like, technically it was a hit, but.

1814
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Speaker 3: Or is it a miss? Hither the R three sixty

1815
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: will be the final resting for the aging rugby stars.

1816
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 3: It'll be like a seniors tournament. You're wrong, Roger to I.

1817
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 3: Vasashek is not an aging rugby star. He still fit

1818
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 3: and you still want to watch it?

1819
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 10: All right?

1820
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: You're going to talk about the banking legislation next stand by.

1821
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 3: Looks like New Zealand First is going to handbreak the

1822
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 3: government's plans. There newstalksz B.

1823
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 9: Three moment.

1824
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1825
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: The Business Hour where the head dup c Allen and

1826
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: mas for insurance Investments and Huy Saber and you're in

1827
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: good hands news talks b.

1828
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: Where you're coming on them? All right?

1829
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 3: We have Gavin Gray out of the UK with us

1830
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 3: in ten minutes time. Right now it's twenty four away

1831
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 3: from seven. Ask Scot Simpson's banking reforms in Trouble's the

1832
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 3: question that a lot of people are asking right now

1833
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 3: because yesterday ASB settled a class action claim against the

1834
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 3: bank for one hundred and thirty five million dollars. The

1835
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 3: class action still stands against A and Z. They are

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01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 3: going to fight it and they are the only bank

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: therefore that is in need of this retrospective bailout. Through

1838
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: the changes in the Triple CFA, there is now a

1839
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 3: suggestion it's not going to happen because New Zealand first

1840
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 3: might be a handbreak. Kent Dunstan Dustin rather is the

1841
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 3: Banking Reform Coalition convener and with us hih keent.

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01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 27: Evening hither, how are you very well?

1843
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 3: Thank you Dad? Does it look to you like ASB

1844
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 3: may have settled here because they can see the law

1845
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 3: change is not coming.

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01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 27: Well, I mean you'd have to look at it from

1847
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 27: the point of view of the bank and say, you know,

1848
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 27: they're not in the business of handing out one hundred

1849
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 27: and thirty five million dollars for the fun of it.

1850
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 27: If there was a law change coming that was going

1851
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 27: to get them off the hoot, then surely they'd wait

1852
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 27: for that. So I think, you know, to the untutored observer,

1853
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 27: we'd have to say that the odds that they're going

1854
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 27: to get the legislation that they wanted through Minister Simpson

1855
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 27: look pretty remote. And you know, when they weigh up

1856
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 27: the odds, they've decided that paying up now is better

1857
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 27: than fighting it out in court in much And.

1858
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 3: So what is your vibe are you hearing that New

1859
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 3: Zealand First is the problem They're going to kill this

1860
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 3: this law change.

1861
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 27: Well, I think it was pretty apparent from when the

1862
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 27: bill went to Select Committee that New Zealand First were

1863
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 27: pretty skeptical, right But because and if you look at

1864
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 27: the bill, it really doesn't do that much other than

1865
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 27: provide this retrospective law change. And no matter how we

1866
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 27: slice and dicee that it's pretty toxic to making to

1867
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 27: be making retrospective law changes that you know, benefit these

1868
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 27: large banks. After all, AMZ hasn't yet settled. It would

1869
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 27: be the only bank that is going to get the

1870
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 27: benefit from this law change. We're talking about the largest

1871
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 27: bank in the country that had a profit of more

1872
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 27: than two billion dollars you know, last year. If anyone

1873
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 27: needs a handout, it sure as an am Z.

1874
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: Now, so I'm taking it from the way that you've

1875
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 3: just answered that question that you're not a huge fan

1876
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 3: of this.

1877
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 27: Well, you know, I don't think that you know, a

1878
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 27: retrospective law change is never good, right, I mean, it

1879
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 27: undermines the rule of law. And we are talking about

1880
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 27: a case that was before the courts, and after all,

1881
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 27: you know, the legislation would only affect cases between twenty

1882
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 27: fifteen and twenty nineteen because the law changed after twenty nineteen,

1883
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 27: and that means that these things aren't going to come

1884
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 27: around again. So it looked pretty clear that really it

1885
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 27: was for the benefit of and am Z. And there's

1886
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 27: a lot of hand waving about it, but fundamentally it

1887
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 27: was a bad law and we shouldn't underestimate the degree

1888
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 27: to which this is a huge political loss to the

1889
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 27: Bankers Association. I mean, they have a compliant minister in

1890
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 27: the former Minister Simpson. They seem to have more lobbyists

1891
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 27: running around Willington Flees on a dog and yet all

1892
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 27: armed with excess cards. Yet yet it seems that they

1893
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 27: can't get this bill across the line. Because if they

1894
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 27: could get the bill across the line, well why did

1895
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 27: ASB need to write a check for one hundred and

1896
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 27: thirty five million?

1897
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 3: Now, well, they are coming up against equally experienced lobbyists,

1898
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 3: aren't they.

1899
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 27: Well I'm not sure there's actually that many lobbyists on

1900
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 27: the side of consumers running around Parliament. So you know,

1901
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 27: I really think this is a victory for common sense

1902
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 27: and I think that there is a bit of a

1903
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 27: shout out to New Zealand first on this one, because

1904
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 27: without one of the coalition partners standing against it, surely

1905
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 27: this would have just proceeded through Select Committee and into

1906
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 27: law and the banks would be off the hooks.

1907
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 3: So is here not an argument to be made, though,

1908
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 3: Kent that this is a chancing of the arm by

1909
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 3: the lawyer who's doing this, because if the law has

1910
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 3: been changed, right, because it was obviously not a great

1911
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: great piece of legislation, he's seen an opportunity.

1912
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 27: Well yeah, look, this is always the balancing, isn't it.

1913
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 27: And I do think Scott Russell, you know, the lawyer

1914
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 27: who's been leading this irrespective of the merits of this

1915
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 27: particular case, has really done the country a bit of

1916
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 27: a service because we do not have any enabling legislation

1917
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 27: for these class actions in New Zealand. And so, as

1918
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 27: he points out, you know, he's spent the last four

1919
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 27: years fighting about how this process is going to work.

1920
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 27: So they've been talking about the process rather than the

1921
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 27: merits of the case itself. And this is the first

1922
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 27: time really this has succeeded. And so what he's done

1923
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 27: is is opened the door for groups of consumers to

1924
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 27: finally be able to hold large corporates, particularly large multinational

1925
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 27: to account in the courts. And it's hard to see

1926
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 27: that as a bad thing.

1927
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 3: Kent too, Do you think, though, let's talk about the

1928
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: merits of the case really quickly and the available time

1929
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: that I have. Do you think, though, it is fair

1930
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 3: that the banks are being lumped with a payout as

1931
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 3: big as this for what they have done.

1932
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 27: Well, you know their banks, so yes, I do. In

1933
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 27: the seas that they have all of the money in

1934
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 27: the world. They know, you know, they made a mistake.

1935
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 27: And let's face it, who doesn't think that AMZ can't

1936
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 27: afford a new computer to get this kind of stuff.

1937
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 18: Right.

1938
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 27: They have all the money in the world. They can

1939
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 27: hire as many staff as they need, they can buy

1940
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 27: all of the IT systems that have ever been created.

1941
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 27: And if they still manage to get it wrong, we'll

1942
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 27: surely they should be on the hook for that.

1943
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: Kent, it's good to talk to you. Thanks very much,

1944
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 3: appreciate your time, mate, Kent Dustin, Banking Reform Coalition convenor,

1945
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 3: No Mercy from Kent, nineteen away from seven Ever, I honestly,

1946
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: I think I just have to give up on the

1947
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: supermoon stuff because I just keep on stuffing this up hither.

1948
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to be that guy, but read the moon.

1949
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 3: The moon is not going to be rising at half

1950
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 3: past seven tonight, like you said, only applied last night.

1951
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 3: Each day the moon rises approximately eighty minutes later than

1952
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: the previous day. It's all about the orbit. Lord. Tonight,

1953
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 3: it's going to rise between eight forty in the north

1954
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: and nine to fifty in in a cargo. Cheers Erran

1955
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 3: So Aaron, thank you. But also do you not find

1956
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 3: that fascinating that the difference between the north and the

1957
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 3: south is like an hour ten Just I suppose we

1958
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 3: have a long country. It's a very long country when

1959
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 3: you think about it. But yeah, an hour ten so

1960
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 3: I could call it from up nor a moon's rising

1961
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 3: and or take an hour ten before. Anyway, you understand

1962
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 3: how time works. Okay, So have you read if you've

1963
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 3: been following what's going on with the Mildi Party, And

1964
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: I think you should because Barry Sober, who's been around

1965
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 3: for a very long time and has watched politics for

1966
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 3: a long time, said today this looks like a party

1967
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: that is falling apart, so keep an eye on it.

1968
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 3: If you're interested. You should read Audrey Young's piece which

1969
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 3: is in the Herald today, which goes some way to

1970
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 3: explaining a little bit of what is going on here. Interesting,

1971
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 3: she says, the reason that there's been this breakdown between

1972
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Muddy Men or Cuppa Kinghey, who was the whip and

1973
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 3: then had the whip taken off her and then her son,

1974
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 3: who was running the protest movement aligned to the party,

1975
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 3: has now broken away. The reason that she lost her job,

1976
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 3: says Audrey, is for a couple of reasons which we

1977
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,919
Speaker 3: hadn't known about before. Number One, she went in June

1978
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 3: on an interparliamentary trip to Japan's parliament with Brownlee and

1979
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of other MPs, and the Maori Party

1980
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 3: was cross with her because they thought that that was

1981
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 3: a luxury that was inconsistent with the party's co Pappa.

1982
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 3: The second reason that she's got in trouble with the

1983
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 3: party is that some party members in the regions were

1984
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 3: recently sounded out about the possibility of Kappa Kingy becoming

1985
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: a future leader, and that found its way back to

1986
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 3: the leadership group. Anyway, if you then follow what happens next,

1987
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: we find out, which is she has her job taken

1988
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 3: off for everybody's gone quiet and they're all fighting with

1989
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 3: each other. And then yesterday there are all these rumors

1990
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 3: going around online about Maria men or Cuppa Kingy blowing

1991
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 3: her electric budget by like a lot, a lot lot,

1992
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 3: and that somehow finds its way into into the public sphere.

1993
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 3: She then in that TVNZ interview says, well, it can

1994
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 3: only have come from the party. The parties leaked against me,

1995
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 3: so you know, piece all the dots together and let's

1996
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 3: see how this plays out. Interestingly, they were at Parliament

1997
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 3: today but you know, we've got nothing. I don't know

1998
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 3: what happened. Then no one appears to have asked them

1999
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 3: any questions. We'll see if we can get We've got

2000
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 3: a bit of time. We'll see if we can find

2001
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 3: out what happened seventeen away from seven croating.

2002
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results.

2003
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: It's Heather dupic Ellen with the Business Hour and MAS

2004
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 2: for Insurance Investments.

2005
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: And Quie Saber, you're in good hands. News Talk said, be.

2006
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 3: Call me efficient or call me efficient. But I've got

2007
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 3: the answer for you. Actually, I just called one of

2008
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 3: our awesome, awesome press gallery journos. So what happened today

2009
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 3: is that the Maori Party, which has become apparently the

2010
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 3: pattern of behavior, did not walk across the bridge. Now,

2011
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 3: if you know how politics works, right, that walking across

2012
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 3: the bridge bit is where they come to the black

2013
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,600
Speaker 3: and white tiles dinging, and the politicians are answering the

2014
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 3: ding ding ding, and the parliamentary bewels are going off

2015
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 3: that thing as they walk into the house. There are

2016
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: ways to get into the house, into the debating chamber

2017
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 3: without having to go across there and come across the media.

2018
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: So if you really want to avoid the media, you

2019
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 3: can do it. And this is what they've taken to

2020
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 3: doing because they don't have to speak to you, and

2021
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 3: if they do, apparently the last time they did come

2022
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 3: across was the time when was it Aori just spoke

2023
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: to at el anyway, so that happened tomorrow they're doing tomorrow.

2024
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 3: We have to keep an eye out because tomorrow they're

2025
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: doing the party reset. So they were I'm not sure

2026
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: as to whether the media were going to be allowed

2027
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: to go to the party reset or not, but media

2028
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 3: are now not definitely not allowed to go to the

2029
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 3: party reset, and they're going to do a live stream.

2030
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 3: So now you know what the Germans doing at four

2031
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 3: point thirty with her day, the rest of us are

2032
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 3: listening to radio, to news talk, said b and she

2033
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 3: is going to be listening to the Maori Party for

2034
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 3: all of her sins and trying to figure out what's

2035
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 3: going on. And I'm not entirely sure. I suspect given

2036
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 3: they're doing a reset, given all the drama with Kappa

2037
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Kingie and Kapa Kingi's son and Taku, the Ferris and

2038
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 3: everything that's going on, I think they may have to

2039
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 3: address a little bit of that. Anyway, that'll be interesting

2040
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 3: tomorrow twelve away from seven downy UK correspondents with that,

2041
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 3: Hello Gail, Hello, there, Gail. The spy case and the

2042
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: government's involvement is fascinating. Run me through it.

2043
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 26: Oh, it's been rumbling on for some time. So it's

2044
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 26: now been revealed that the case against two men, a

2045
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 26: teacher and a parliamentary researcher, accused of spying for China

2046
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 26: collapsed because the Director of Public Prosecutions, which is the

2047
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 26: UK's most senior prosecutor, couldn't get any evidence from the government.

2048
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 26: He said there was evidence to prosecute when the case

2049
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 26: was originally brought last April. However, and precedent has been

2050
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 26: set by another spying case which has raised the threshold

2051
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 26: for a conviction. So under the last government, their assessment

2052
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 26: of China was that it was an epoch defining challenge

2053
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 26: of a country, but nothing more. To be able to

2054
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 26: get a case for spying now you have to have

2055
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 26: evidence which represents China as a threat to national security

2056
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,839
Speaker 26: at the time of the alleged defenses, which the previous government,

2057
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 26: which is when these alleged defenses took place, and both

2058
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 26: men deny they deny the charges that wasn't available. Therefore

2059
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 26: case thrown out.

2060
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 3: That's it, well can they not?

2061
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 10: Though?

2062
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 23: This?

2063
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 3: So does it have to they have been at the time,

2064
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 3: like concurrent with the alleged spying, the government had to

2065
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 3: have seen China as as some sort of a national

2066
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 3: security threat or can they now declare them the national

2067
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 3: security threat thereby allowing them to take the spying case.

2068
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 26: No, the Prime ministers, the Kistoma has said that's just

2069
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 26: not possible. It has to be at the time, and

2070
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 26: of course he's a lawyer and that's what's been decided.

2071
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would know. Okay, what's going on with this

2072
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 3: company that's been housing the asylum seekers.

2073
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 26: Yeah, as you know asylum seekers, and the housing asylum

2074
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 26: seekers has caused an up brought here with protests outside

2075
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,559
Speaker 26: asylum seeking hotels. And this is a company called Clear

2076
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 26: Springs Ready Homes, which supports around thirty thousand asylum seekers

2077
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 26: both in England and Wales, and its subcontracts to hotels

2078
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 26: for many of the asylum seekers to provide accommodation for

2079
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 26: about half that number. It began its contract under the

2080
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 26: previous government in twenty nineteen, and it's now been revealed

2081
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 26: that over the past five years they've made three hundred

2082
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:33,719
Speaker 26: and sixty million dollars in profit, despite claims of terrible

2083
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 26: conditions at the hotel it uses, I mean charities, have

2084
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 26: you know publicly shown inedible food, miserable conditions that people

2085
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 26: are living in. However, it's one of three companies which

2086
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 26: has a ten year contract with the Home Office to

2087
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 26: provide accommodation for asylum seekers and the contracts is expected

2088
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 26: to be over a ten year period fourteen billion dollars.

2089
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: Wow, hey, but it's carry on.

2090
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 26: Sorry, I was just going to say I was shocked

2091
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 26: at that figure. But the fee is not thought to be.

2092
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 3: Excessive, right, well, the size of the I suppose what

2093
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 3: you consider as big as as different to what I've considered.

2094
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 3: Have you put that little parrot dog away, by the way.

2095
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 4: Oh, yes I have.

2096
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 26: I've put her far far off. That doesn't mean she's

2097
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 26: gone to a farm. She's actually just sat in the

2098
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,600
Speaker 26: car outside.

2099
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 3: Outside, Gail like you've you've you've had to remove the

2100
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 3: dog from the inside of the house. Yes, because she

2101
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 3: is so yippy. She's a jack Russell.

2102
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 26: Let me say so, anyone who's ever owned a Jack Russell?

2103
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 26: Or no, they're very, very determined. So it was either

2104
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 26: five minutes outside in her very comfortable seat in the car,

2105
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,000
Speaker 26: or the doors being pulled off the hinges.

2106
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 3: Yes, possibly that, or just saying to news Talks Drive, no,

2107
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 3: I can't I can't handle it now fair enough, Hey, Gail,

2108
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: thank you so much as always, will talk to you

2109
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 3: again in a couple of days. Gale Downey in for

2110
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 3: Gavin Gray. Oh did you know? I didn't know this

2111
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 3: until day? Did you know that? The Americans don't call

2112
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 3: cludo cludo? They call it They just call it clue

2113
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 3: because Cludo is a portmanteau of Clue and Ludo, and

2114
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 3: Ludo is another board game, right, so they've they played

2115
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 3: on Will's Clever, but the Americans don't have Ludo, so

2116
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 3: they ain't got no idea. They are just so confused

2117
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 3: about what's going on. So anyway, the reason I'm telling

2118
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: you this is because it's coming to Netflix. They're turning

2119
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 3: it into a game show and they're gonna have contestants

2120
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 3: complete mental and physical tasks while solving clues. And also

2121
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 3: they were already doing the same thing with Monopoly. So

2122
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 3: if you love your board games, who have you got

2123
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 3: the time coming to you? Seven away from seven.

2124
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,719
Speaker 2: It's the Heather too for See allan Drive full show

2125
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk Zebbi.

2126
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,080
Speaker 3: Okay, this is going to be legit the last time

2127
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 3: I talk about the supermoon on this show, because even

2128
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 3: when I was trying to explain, like clear up the

2129
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 3: pres every single time I've mentioned it, I've stuffed it up.

2130
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 3: And then when I was trying to clear up the

2131
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 3: previous stuff, and then it goes back to yesterday, was

2132
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 3: stuffing it up yesterday. And then I tried to clear

2133
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 3: up the previous stuff up, and I stuffed that up too.

2134
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 3: Because now I've got a text from Murray saying, hither,

2135
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 3: it's actually not really how far south in the cargols,

2136
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,639
Speaker 3: it's actually how far sweety, he says, which I think

2137
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 3: is deserved. In this case, I am sweety. In this

2138
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 3: case it is actually how far west it is, which

2139
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 3: is further than most people think. So thanks Murray Love,

2140
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 3: because I did deserve that.

2141
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 9: Lord.

2142
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, listen, this is the thing that I am finding

2143
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 3: the most fascinating, Like this actually makes me giggle with

2144
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 3: how stupid it is. Have you seen the gunless James

2145
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Bond posters? Have you seen them? So what happened was

2146
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 3: like something stupid like James Bond Day on Sunday or

2147
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 3: something and Amazon they released they for their Prime video

2148
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 3: streaming site. They released all these posters of James Bond,

2149
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 3: but they're the old posters that we know, like the

2150
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 3: Doctor No poster where Sean Connery, you know the one,

2151
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 3: it's like it's famous. He's got his arms crossed, he's

2152
01:38:57,680 --> 01:39:00,040
Speaker 3: wearing a little polo shit, got his arms crossed and

2153
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 3: in the crook of one arm he's got in his hand,

2154
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 3: he's got a gun and he's leaning it. He's sort

2155
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,679
Speaker 3: of resting it into the crease of his elbow. Well

2156
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:10,679
Speaker 3: he's still doing that, but they photo shot the gun out,

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Speaker 3: so he's just posing really weirdly with his arms crossed.

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Speaker 3: And then of course there's the poster that is it

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Speaker 3: features Pierce Brosnan from GoldenEye, and he's got on a

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Speaker 3: white shirt with a black waistcoat and he's sort of

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Speaker 3: like slightly slightly looking kind of skew at the camera

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Speaker 3: and in his he's got his hand up at his chin.

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Speaker 3: He's got really long gun coming out of his hand. No,

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Speaker 3: the gun's gone, his hand's just there anyway. So they've

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Speaker 3: got in trouble for that, because that's stupid. That's dumb.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate I mean, I don't you know guns.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be shot by a gun, but

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Speaker 3: I don't hate looking at guns. Anyway. They've been declared

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Speaker 3: to be woke. They've now taken it. They've taken all

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Speaker 3: the posters down as they should. Libby to take.

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Speaker 28: On that, I'll get you going, okay. Why Well, Dolly

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Speaker 28: had to recently postpone her Las Vegas resident, which was

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Speaker 28: very sad. I'm sure she was very sad about it.

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Speaker 28: But her sister's been on the social saying we need

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Speaker 28: to be praying for Dolly, which obviously sent me a

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Speaker 28: little bit like, oh gosh, what's happening? But Dolly said

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Speaker 28: she's okay, she just needs some rest.

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Speaker 3: Oh back, oh, host sister just set up to set

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Speaker 3: the panic for no reason.

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Speaker 28: Basically, it quickly in the.

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Speaker 3: Shut up sister, Oh thank you for playing. Donnie just

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Speaker 3: woke us up, didn't it. We're getting a bit slow

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Speaker 3: there for a minute, not after Libby blasted the music.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Libby, he will see you tomorrow. Have a nice

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Speaker 3: evening in your high heel books and your pony teens.

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Speaker 3: I'll get down like a cavern't.

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Speaker 18: Writing here looking like that?

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Speaker 1: Why to come in here?

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Speaker 3: Looking like that when you get stuck to rap again

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Speaker 3: at Don Sack?

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Speaker 10: Why are you all us given?

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