1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Jason Wall's Newstalkszreb's political editism for Barrysoberhey, Jason Afternoon, Heather Hey. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: So did they even talk to Darlene the Greens? Did 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: they even talk? Did they even look at her? Absolutely not. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: She cast a somewhat lonely figure sitting at the back 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: of the debating chamber this afternoon in a seat where 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: the press gallery calls Siberia. Given it's so far away 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: from everyone else. It's a seat that in the past 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: has been warmed by the likes of Jamie Lee, Ross, 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Goodev Shatima, Elizabeth Ketty Kenny and Mika Fight Today, not 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: exactly an enviable list by any stretch of the imagination. 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: It's actually directly behind the Green Party. But there are 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: MP's wanted nothing to do with her today, although she 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: did get a few hongy from Tipati Mahdi MPs as 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: they came into the chamber as well. The Greens are 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: still angry with her co leader Chloe Swarbrick today again 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: telling her to resign. And there's a bit of a twist. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: Now have a listen to what Swarbrick had to tell 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: us before going into the house today. 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: Are we in a situation where we have to explore 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: other options. Then we will have those sensitive conversations at 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: our AGM the summing weekend. 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Your AGM this weekend is when the robber hits the 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: road in terms of that conversation. 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: When it comes to sensitive discussions with our party about 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: what potential other avenues may be available to us, those 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: will happen with our party at the AGM. As I've 27 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: been saying for weeks on how the feel about this situation, 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: I can be pretty clear with you that there are 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: a number of members across the country who have reached 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: out to me incredibly frustrated about this situation and about 31 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Darlian Tanna's unwillingness to take responsibility for what's happened to here. 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: So it's the Green quite fittingly, actually, it's the Greens 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: AGM this weekend in christ Church, and it sounds as 34 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: though the delegates are going to cast some sort of 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: doubt vote on Darlien's future. Now this is a vote 36 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: I would imagine that would be about using the Walker 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: jumping legislation. That is the law that allows parties to 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: expel a member of Parliament who's left the party that 39 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: they entered parliament. 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: In with. 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: And the problem here for the Greens is that they 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: fought tooth and nail against this legislation when it was 43 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: before the House. So the question is use the law 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: and be hypocrites, or don't use it. And then Darlian 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Tana stays here for a while. And we know that 46 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: Darlen Tana expects to stay here for a while as 47 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: an independent because have a listen to what she said 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: when she was caught by reporters in Parliament this afternoon. 49 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: I'm here now and doing the mahi, and you don't 50 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: intend to go anywhere. You're here to stay. I'm here 51 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: now and doing the mahi for as long as this 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: place growing out. 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: So the problem is as long as this place allows 54 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: might be three more whole days. 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: It's a week's pay, you know, and on top of 56 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: the other three weeks, it's a month's pace. Nothing to 57 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: be sniffed out on. That income is pretty good. 58 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: Why did Winston use the R word? Oh, it was 59 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: one heck of a rodeo in the rodeo, as he 60 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: would say in the House today in terms of insults 61 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: flying and slurs flying. So right with the White idea 62 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: of anti party, Marti got the ball rolling with this. 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: How does the Minister for Mardi Crown Relations feel being 64 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: wheeled out by this government to answer a question that 65 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: was directed to the Prime Minister. 66 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: So this one wasn't too bad, a little reductive, especially 67 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: considering Tamapultaka, who was the minister meant to be answering 68 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: the questions, was actually at a tangy to day. And 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: it was also a little ironic how often or how 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: little Pati Marti actually show up in the house. And 71 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: then it was Winston who took it to the next level. 72 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: Does the Minister think that attending someone's close relations tonguey 73 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: is a case of being wheeled out of this parliament? 74 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: Has been put by that last idiotic questioner. 75 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Now this drew somewhat of an ironic response from Debbi 76 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Nadi Wapaka. 77 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: We asked that decorum be restored to this house. 78 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Ironic in the sense that it's the Tipati Marti who 79 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: most often robbed the house of said decorum. Winston wouldn't 80 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: allow them to have the last word and drop this 81 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: line now a warning he uses a word here that 82 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: many people might find offensive. 83 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: Ask the minister does two of the top three in 84 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: this Parliament who have got Marie background, or the highest 85 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 3: percentage of marian and Pacifica in a cabinet represent progress 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 3: or the kind of retard comment you just heard. 87 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: You cannot say that one, Winston. So we asked him 88 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: about it outside of the house, and his response was 89 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: somewhat predictable. Have a listened to this exchange I had 90 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: with him, most people would look at that word and say. 91 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: We're not dealing with Most people are diding. Somebody were understanding. 92 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: Excuse me when I'll answer the question, you shut up 93 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: another answer when you're speaking. Okay, here we go. There's 94 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: many answers to the interpretations of that word, many of 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: means just slowing the vehicle down, stopping it down, or 96 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: shutting it down. Got many of all answers in. 97 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: That Winston, come on, I don't think that's what you 98 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: meant when you said it in the house. 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