1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,787 Speaker 1: from News Talks edb Roy God. 3 00:00:13,787 --> 00:00:17,867 Speaker 2: I've got right. They have nothing for a try. 4 00:00:18,067 --> 00:00:23,867 Speaker 3: Will Jordan on time number forty one Jeth level. 5 00:00:24,307 --> 00:00:27,707 Speaker 4: That's forty one tries now for Will Jordan in forty 6 00:00:27,787 --> 00:00:28,867 Speaker 4: three tests. 7 00:00:29,067 --> 00:00:31,027 Speaker 2: It's madness. 8 00:00:31,427 --> 00:00:34,987 Speaker 4: The strike rate with which he scores tries. The All 9 00:00:34,987 --> 00:00:38,347 Speaker 4: Blacks record is forty nine, held by Doug Hallett. He's 10 00:00:38,347 --> 00:00:42,227 Speaker 4: got forty one now. It's a pretty tough year for 11 00:00:42,267 --> 00:00:43,707 Speaker 4: the All Blacks, but depending on how many of the 12 00:00:43,747 --> 00:00:46,547 Speaker 4: test matches Will Jordan plays, he could get there. He 13 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:49,467 Speaker 4: could bring up fifty by the end of the year. Astonishing. 14 00:00:50,067 --> 00:00:52,027 Speaker 4: Let's bring in form of Mary All Blacks, Hurricanes and 15 00:00:52,027 --> 00:00:55,667 Speaker 4: Crusaders Lucy and England International now expert analyst on our 16 00:00:55,707 --> 00:00:59,707 Speaker 4: News Talks EDB. Wellington Commentary's Thomas Waldrom Thomas, thanks for 17 00:00:59,747 --> 00:01:01,667 Speaker 4: your time man. How much improvement did you see last 18 00:01:01,707 --> 00:01:05,467 Speaker 4: night from the All Blacks compared to last weekends in Dunedin. 19 00:01:05,987 --> 00:01:08,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the thing. They sort of second 20 00:01:08,707 --> 00:01:10,907 Speaker 3: week together now, like actually paint a probab game instead 21 00:01:10,907 --> 00:01:13,347 Speaker 3: of training and stuff like that, so you can tell 22 00:01:13,347 --> 00:01:16,067 Speaker 3: that everything was sort of clicking more and I think 23 00:01:16,067 --> 00:01:18,107 Speaker 3: they probably had a bit more look at the French 24 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:20,307 Speaker 3: and you saw a couple of players that they throw 25 00:01:20,347 --> 00:01:22,627 Speaker 3: the line out there. They did, so they've definitely done 26 00:01:22,627 --> 00:01:24,187 Speaker 3: their homework during the week and you can tell that 27 00:01:24,187 --> 00:01:26,227 Speaker 3: they're definitely prepared a lot better this week. 28 00:01:26,307 --> 00:01:27,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to come to the lineouts at the moment, 29 00:01:28,027 --> 00:01:30,107 Speaker 4: but you know, I think we do we have to 30 00:01:30,107 --> 00:01:32,587 Speaker 4: sort of limitary expectations of the All Blacks in Week 31 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:34,307 Speaker 4: one of any year, I think we could spect them. 32 00:01:34,307 --> 00:01:36,307 Speaker 4: They came out and put fifty on everybody. But do 33 00:01:36,387 --> 00:01:37,827 Speaker 4: we need to have to do we need to be 34 00:01:37,867 --> 00:01:40,907 Speaker 4: a little bit less expectant in the first Test match 35 00:01:40,947 --> 00:01:41,747 Speaker 4: of a calendar year. 36 00:01:42,467 --> 00:01:43,827 Speaker 3: I think so. And I think we sort of just 37 00:01:43,947 --> 00:01:46,187 Speaker 3: sometimes we just worry about the opposition a bit too much 38 00:01:46,227 --> 00:01:49,027 Speaker 3: in New gn And and they they haven't bore their 39 00:01:49,067 --> 00:01:51,387 Speaker 3: best team or a little bit negative. I think. Yeah, 40 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:53,907 Speaker 3: I think it's always the tough. You saw South Africa 41 00:01:54,427 --> 00:01:57,707 Speaker 3: battle as well against Italy, so everyone sort of all 42 00:01:57,747 --> 00:02:01,347 Speaker 3: the sort of someone hemans where guys that's sort of 43 00:02:01,387 --> 00:02:04,067 Speaker 3: starting this season where all the northern guys are finishing 44 00:02:04,107 --> 00:02:06,307 Speaker 3: And you probably could tell that even last night the Lions, 45 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:10,227 Speaker 3: where the Australia in Z team probably just didn't gel 46 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:12,827 Speaker 3: quick enough. And these boys have been together, they've had 47 00:02:12,827 --> 00:02:15,547 Speaker 3: there what four or fifth game, So yeah, this probably 48 00:02:15,587 --> 00:02:18,227 Speaker 3: is a tough one first up, but the less the 49 00:02:18,227 --> 00:02:20,187 Speaker 3: thing that you can always get better from that one. Anyway. 50 00:02:20,267 --> 00:02:23,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. So let's look at the lineouse. 51 00:02:23,467 --> 00:02:26,747 Speaker 4: The first three All Blacks tries came from lineouts, So 52 00:02:27,587 --> 00:02:31,387 Speaker 4: how much work goes into striking like that from set piece? 53 00:02:32,307 --> 00:02:34,667 Speaker 3: Oh messively and less the thing. It's just the guys 54 00:02:34,667 --> 00:02:37,027 Speaker 3: that are probably the line out leaders are looking opportunities 55 00:02:37,107 --> 00:02:38,627 Speaker 3: and because yes, I think you just want to win. 56 00:02:38,787 --> 00:02:40,107 Speaker 3: You want to win your ball most of the time. 57 00:02:40,187 --> 00:02:42,907 Speaker 3: But then if you see opportunities that they must have 58 00:02:43,027 --> 00:02:45,627 Speaker 3: picked out there. The nine in the twenty two probably 59 00:02:45,667 --> 00:02:47,947 Speaker 3: defense at the back of the lineout and the two 60 00:02:48,067 --> 00:02:50,307 Speaker 3: might cover a bit quickly for the drive. So yeah, 61 00:02:50,347 --> 00:02:52,907 Speaker 3: you see opportunities and less the thing when you got 62 00:02:54,107 --> 00:02:56,787 Speaker 3: well the whole squad maybe what twenty foards or so 63 00:02:57,227 --> 00:02:59,347 Speaker 3: looking at different parts of the lineout, someone always picks 64 00:02:59,387 --> 00:03:01,547 Speaker 3: up something that you can exploit. And I think all 65 00:03:01,547 --> 00:03:02,907 Speaker 3: Blacks definitely saw there yesterday. 66 00:03:02,987 --> 00:03:05,187 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bryan Evans must be pretty stoked Day's coming as 67 00:03:05,227 --> 00:03:07,747 Speaker 4: line out coach and know the scoring tries for fun 68 00:03:07,747 --> 00:03:08,867 Speaker 4: from lineout. 69 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:11,667 Speaker 3: Oh definitely. And that's the thing is stampings mark on it, 70 00:03:11,707 --> 00:03:14,707 Speaker 3: and I think that's the same as the driving nine 71 00:03:14,707 --> 00:03:17,667 Speaker 3: outs as well. Probably the last couple of years, Jone's 72 00:03:17,667 --> 00:03:19,907 Speaker 3: probably been the best at it because of Jason Ryan 73 00:03:19,947 --> 00:03:22,627 Speaker 3: of what he's brought to the Crusaders like stop it 74 00:03:22,707 --> 00:03:25,707 Speaker 3: in the mall as massive, and I know New Genre 75 00:03:25,787 --> 00:03:28,347 Speaker 3: has done a lot of work on that. So yes, 76 00:03:28,427 --> 00:03:31,907 Speaker 3: big credits of both coaches sort of getting these forwards 77 00:03:31,947 --> 00:03:34,067 Speaker 3: in the right space nine times out of ten? 78 00:03:34,427 --> 00:03:36,467 Speaker 2: Do you like to poor vity at six? 79 00:03:37,707 --> 00:03:40,587 Speaker 3: I had a question mark about it, but to be 80 00:03:41,187 --> 00:03:42,827 Speaker 3: to be, fear's probably been the best for them on 81 00:03:42,907 --> 00:03:47,067 Speaker 3: the last two weeks, So yeah, that's the thing. Has 82 00:03:47,587 --> 00:03:50,307 Speaker 3: when I was sort of resourcing for the under twenties, 83 00:03:50,387 --> 00:03:52,267 Speaker 3: must have been for about four or five years ago. 84 00:03:52,307 --> 00:03:55,507 Speaker 3: When I came back, we didn't have any locks and 85 00:03:55,867 --> 00:03:57,187 Speaker 3: I was sorry. He had a buntance of locks, but 86 00:03:57,267 --> 00:04:00,027 Speaker 3: no six and we were tended to take him as 87 00:04:00,027 --> 00:04:02,747 Speaker 3: a sex as well before COVID hit, So yeah, there 88 00:04:02,827 --> 00:04:04,227 Speaker 3: was potential we were going to look at him at 89 00:04:04,227 --> 00:04:07,347 Speaker 3: six anyway. But no, he's definitely stepped up their void 90 00:04:07,427 --> 00:04:09,707 Speaker 3: and sort of smesh with both hands. 91 00:04:09,747 --> 00:04:13,347 Speaker 2: Really he had look he has is it? I don't know. 92 00:04:13,467 --> 00:04:14,147 Speaker 2: I don't think. 93 00:04:14,227 --> 00:04:17,107 Speaker 4: I don't feel like every lock can play six, you know, 94 00:04:17,347 --> 00:04:20,507 Speaker 4: So what is it about to Borvai in particular, you know, 95 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:23,507 Speaker 4: that would would allow him perhaps to take ownership of 96 00:04:23,547 --> 00:04:25,387 Speaker 4: this six jersey moving forward? 97 00:04:25,987 --> 00:04:27,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you sort of look at all 98 00:04:27,707 --> 00:04:30,307 Speaker 3: the six as we've had in the past, like Jerome Ko, 99 00:04:30,547 --> 00:04:33,267 Speaker 3: like the ones that have stayed there, like Jerry, what's 100 00:04:33,547 --> 00:04:35,627 Speaker 3: you know, what's the difference with them? I think it's 101 00:04:35,627 --> 00:04:39,427 Speaker 3: the X factor. They've got something like Jeri on defense. 102 00:04:39,547 --> 00:04:41,267 Speaker 3: You you want to go anywhere near him with you 103 00:04:41,347 --> 00:04:43,907 Speaker 3: if you've got the ball in hand, and same as Jerome, 104 00:04:43,947 --> 00:04:46,347 Speaker 3: And I think Tubby has actually got a presence in 105 00:04:46,387 --> 00:04:49,187 Speaker 3: their space. So I think it's yeah, some of them 106 00:04:49,347 --> 00:04:51,707 Speaker 3: just thinking about him the last couple of weeks. I 107 00:04:51,747 --> 00:04:54,187 Speaker 3: think all the well, yeah, he's he's good in the 108 00:04:54,187 --> 00:04:56,067 Speaker 3: open as well, so he's got some pace behind him 109 00:04:56,147 --> 00:04:57,667 Speaker 3: unless sort of yeah, what. 110 00:04:57,587 --> 00:04:59,347 Speaker 2: You need it helps in the line out too? 111 00:04:59,347 --> 00:05:01,187 Speaker 4: Are going back to that, doesn't it When you've effectively 112 00:05:01,227 --> 00:05:04,587 Speaker 4: got three locks in the lineout and Christian Leo Williardi 113 00:05:04,667 --> 00:05:08,387 Speaker 4: Savilla plenty of options ad lineout time. So when Wallace 114 00:05:08,427 --> 00:05:12,147 Speaker 4: Stiti comes back, can you see against South Africa Via 115 00:05:12,427 --> 00:05:15,947 Speaker 4: at six, Saver at seven, SA Titi at eight. 116 00:05:16,747 --> 00:05:18,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you've got to give him a crck there. 117 00:05:18,987 --> 00:05:22,107 Speaker 3: So I know the Frenches and the as they say, 118 00:05:22,147 --> 00:05:24,227 Speaker 3: didn't bring their best team, but you still got to 119 00:05:24,347 --> 00:05:26,067 Speaker 3: play what's in front of you. Where Africa will be 120 00:05:26,227 --> 00:05:29,827 Speaker 3: a big big test watching them, watching the highlights before though, 121 00:05:30,507 --> 00:05:33,107 Speaker 3: they're so physical, just in your face, so it's going 122 00:05:33,187 --> 00:05:37,187 Speaker 3: to be some different people are going to come against 123 00:05:37,187 --> 00:05:38,907 Speaker 3: and just even this school like you know Whide but 124 00:05:38,987 --> 00:05:42,067 Speaker 3: they had a couple tries where three or four passes 125 00:05:42,067 --> 00:05:44,267 Speaker 3: on the outside all ball in front of them, So 126 00:05:44,307 --> 00:05:46,307 Speaker 3: it's going to definitely be a bigger challenge. But I 127 00:05:46,347 --> 00:05:48,107 Speaker 3: still think he deserves a shot there. 128 00:05:48,387 --> 00:05:50,467 Speaker 4: You were renowned for your physicality and you weren't the 129 00:05:50,467 --> 00:05:51,067 Speaker 4: biggest guy. 130 00:05:51,747 --> 00:05:54,067 Speaker 2: How much of it is mental? 131 00:05:54,347 --> 00:05:57,427 Speaker 3: I think quite a lot. But yeah, so that's because 132 00:05:57,547 --> 00:05:59,467 Speaker 3: as I tell you, I like you just yeah, I 133 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:02,347 Speaker 3: think if you overthink it, and I was pretty lucky 134 00:06:02,347 --> 00:06:04,507 Speaker 3: I didn't have many injuries in my career and stuff. 135 00:06:04,547 --> 00:06:08,587 Speaker 3: So I didn't really have any doubts of, well, well 136 00:06:08,627 --> 00:06:10,947 Speaker 3: my body couldn't handle this or couldn't do this, and 137 00:06:10,987 --> 00:06:13,507 Speaker 3: I was just probably just head down and just going 138 00:06:13,547 --> 00:06:15,427 Speaker 3: as hard as you can for as long as you can. 139 00:06:16,547 --> 00:06:19,587 Speaker 2: And I mean it sounds I don't know physicality. 140 00:06:19,827 --> 00:06:21,787 Speaker 4: It's such an interesting concept to meet Thomas, you know, 141 00:06:21,907 --> 00:06:23,787 Speaker 4: having never been in the situation. 142 00:06:24,067 --> 00:06:25,507 Speaker 2: You know, I just feel like you know, I have 143 00:06:25,867 --> 00:06:26,627 Speaker 2: do you just have to. 144 00:06:26,587 --> 00:06:28,987 Speaker 4: Accept that you're going to actually put your body through 145 00:06:29,067 --> 00:06:30,707 Speaker 4: a bit across the eighty minutes? 146 00:06:31,307 --> 00:06:33,587 Speaker 3: Oh, you definitely, yeah, And that's and that's the good 147 00:06:33,587 --> 00:06:35,867 Speaker 3: thing about being like being professional you because you've got 148 00:06:37,027 --> 00:06:39,707 Speaker 3: weeks and months and stuff like that as at a 149 00:06:39,787 --> 00:06:41,747 Speaker 3: stop start when you get injured. But I was lucky 150 00:06:41,827 --> 00:06:44,107 Speaker 3: enough I could always have you just string Like I 151 00:06:44,107 --> 00:06:46,187 Speaker 3: always say to people, you can string five or six 152 00:06:46,227 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 3: games eighty minute performances you set up for a long 153 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:52,587 Speaker 3: while if you if you don't get injured, and you 154 00:06:52,627 --> 00:06:54,907 Speaker 3: can just keep going and you just have to, yeah, 155 00:06:55,267 --> 00:06:59,587 Speaker 3: deal with the after myth on a Saturday about how 156 00:06:59,627 --> 00:07:02,267 Speaker 3: you recover and stuff like that as well. So talk 157 00:07:02,347 --> 00:07:05,587 Speaker 3: me a while to understand recovery. But once you understand 158 00:07:05,627 --> 00:07:08,467 Speaker 3: it and know why why it's so important. It's it's 159 00:07:08,507 --> 00:07:10,187 Speaker 3: a it's a great tool to have as well. 160 00:07:10,347 --> 00:07:12,227 Speaker 4: The yellow card to boat and bear it last night 161 00:07:12,267 --> 00:07:14,867 Speaker 4: for that knockdown. As a player, what are you supposed 162 00:07:14,867 --> 00:07:16,027 Speaker 4: to do in that situation. 163 00:07:17,427 --> 00:07:21,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a tough one as well. Yeah, 164 00:07:22,307 --> 00:07:24,907 Speaker 3: there's instincts and there's opportunities that you see that you 165 00:07:25,027 --> 00:07:28,347 Speaker 3: sort of go, ah, I'm a blot of position, but 166 00:07:28,787 --> 00:07:31,547 Speaker 3: if I can grab the ball, I go for it. 167 00:07:31,587 --> 00:07:33,787 Speaker 3: And it's it's been a hard one for a few 168 00:07:33,827 --> 00:07:36,627 Speaker 3: years where any put your if you put your hand out, 169 00:07:36,667 --> 00:07:40,227 Speaker 3: you're going to be in trouble to go straight to ground. Well, 170 00:07:40,267 --> 00:07:42,507 Speaker 3: probably I'd look at it more as if your partners 171 00:07:42,547 --> 00:07:44,507 Speaker 3: facing up, because then you're you're trying to catch it, 172 00:07:44,507 --> 00:07:46,387 Speaker 3: an't you. You're trying to beat it up, so you've 173 00:07:46,387 --> 00:07:48,387 Speaker 3: got more time to get it. But then if your 174 00:07:48,387 --> 00:07:51,787 Speaker 3: hands down, it's sort of a different way that you 175 00:07:51,787 --> 00:07:54,427 Speaker 3: you have got no attempt to get it whatsoever. 176 00:07:54,507 --> 00:07:56,907 Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, I understand the I think we all understand 177 00:07:56,907 --> 00:07:58,707 Speaker 4: the intent of the law, don't. Well, you don't want 178 00:07:58,787 --> 00:08:00,667 Speaker 4: a guy, you know, batting a ball down when there's 179 00:08:00,667 --> 00:08:03,347 Speaker 4: an overlap on the outside. But I, like I said, 180 00:08:03,347 --> 00:08:05,147 Speaker 4: I think in your position of the hands a great, 181 00:08:05,347 --> 00:08:06,347 Speaker 4: great way of looking at it. 182 00:08:06,507 --> 00:08:08,147 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what else Bowden Barrack can do. 183 00:08:08,307 --> 00:08:10,507 Speaker 4: I just think he's he's just in a natural position 184 00:08:10,547 --> 00:08:11,747 Speaker 4: the balls set his hand, isn't it. 185 00:08:12,187 --> 00:08:14,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, And because I thought it was a bit weird 186 00:08:14,147 --> 00:08:17,307 Speaker 3: as well, because I see it wrong where the team 187 00:08:17,347 --> 00:08:19,227 Speaker 3: I said it was a forward pass anyway. 188 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:21,707 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I well, I actually thought the French flag 189 00:08:21,747 --> 00:08:25,227 Speaker 4: knocked it on too, So yeah's going on there? Yeah. 190 00:08:25,267 --> 00:08:26,867 Speaker 3: So when he said as a forward pass, so the 191 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:29,107 Speaker 3: trial was never going to stand. So did that count 192 00:08:29,547 --> 00:08:32,827 Speaker 3: they're out from body? Yeah, I would have thought they 193 00:08:32,827 --> 00:08:35,307 Speaker 3: would have counted everything out of it was a normal 194 00:08:35,347 --> 00:08:38,947 Speaker 3: pass and it happened then potentially, But yeah, forward pass 195 00:08:39,067 --> 00:08:41,347 Speaker 3: and the knockdown in ten minutes, it's pretty tough, I 196 00:08:41,347 --> 00:08:42,187 Speaker 3: think absolutely. 197 00:08:42,227 --> 00:08:44,387 Speaker 2: I totally agree. You played a bit of rugby at 198 00:08:44,387 --> 00:08:44,787 Speaker 2: that ground. 199 00:08:45,267 --> 00:08:47,867 Speaker 4: Well, it actually wasn't too bad last night weather wise, 200 00:08:47,907 --> 00:08:50,507 Speaker 4: but you know, it does blow, it does swirl around. 201 00:08:50,627 --> 00:08:52,147 Speaker 2: How tricky is that venue to play in? 202 00:08:52,907 --> 00:08:53,267 Speaker 3: Yeah? 203 00:08:53,347 --> 00:08:53,627 Speaker 4: It is. 204 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:57,347 Speaker 3: But that's the thing that's when you understand it and 205 00:08:57,667 --> 00:09:00,987 Speaker 3: you know where the wind's coming from and best taking 206 00:09:00,987 --> 00:09:03,387 Speaker 3: advantage of it. That's the thing. Having a few one 207 00:09:03,427 --> 00:09:06,747 Speaker 3: in some players like Jordie Jordia would have directed a 208 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:08,827 Speaker 3: lot of players and he would have known that that's 209 00:09:08,867 --> 00:09:10,827 Speaker 3: the thing. But their grounds amazing because the mant of 210 00:09:10,867 --> 00:09:13,267 Speaker 3: rain we've headed one into and I've sort of watched 211 00:09:13,267 --> 00:09:16,147 Speaker 3: a couple of club rugby games yesterday and college rugby. 212 00:09:16,187 --> 00:09:19,507 Speaker 3: The grounds were just soaking. There was just mud everywhere 213 00:09:19,587 --> 00:09:21,987 Speaker 3: and there was no running rugby. It was just tucking 214 00:09:22,067 --> 00:09:24,707 Speaker 3: up to the forward. So to see the crown and 215 00:09:24,867 --> 00:09:27,147 Speaker 3: how pristine it is, it was awesome. 216 00:09:26,867 --> 00:09:27,187 Speaker 2: All right. 217 00:09:27,187 --> 00:09:28,907 Speaker 4: And just to finish the all Blacks know they've won 218 00:09:28,947 --> 00:09:32,067 Speaker 4: the series. Now France know they've lost the series, and 219 00:09:32,147 --> 00:09:35,587 Speaker 4: I'm sure they're probably just wanting to get home. What 220 00:09:35,627 --> 00:09:37,747 Speaker 4: do you expect to happen and tease three in Hamilton 221 00:09:37,827 --> 00:09:38,427 Speaker 4: next weekend? 222 00:09:39,387 --> 00:09:41,027 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because it is the last game of 223 00:09:41,027 --> 00:09:42,787 Speaker 3: the season as well. I think after this they go 224 00:09:42,867 --> 00:09:45,307 Speaker 3: back and they sort of they have five or six 225 00:09:45,347 --> 00:09:47,707 Speaker 3: weeks off to go back to their clubs and stuff, 226 00:09:47,747 --> 00:09:50,307 Speaker 3: so I think they I'm hoping that they throw everything 227 00:09:50,307 --> 00:09:53,307 Speaker 3: at it because nothing to lose, they sort of enjoy 228 00:09:53,387 --> 00:09:55,227 Speaker 3: the week. I don't from what I learned they're going 229 00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:56,787 Speaker 3: to Hamilton. Know they they're going straight to Auckland. 230 00:09:56,907 --> 00:09:58,027 Speaker 2: That's the French. 231 00:09:58,107 --> 00:09:59,947 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that yeah, I think I'm not sure. I 232 00:09:59,947 --> 00:10:01,467 Speaker 4: think the All Blacks might be going to Hamilton. I 233 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:03,027 Speaker 4: think France, I said, and I will come down the 234 00:10:03,107 --> 00:10:04,147 Speaker 4: day before or something. 235 00:10:04,267 --> 00:10:08,027 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so that's the much show that they partially 236 00:10:08,427 --> 00:10:11,787 Speaker 3: will go to Auckland and enjoy themselves up there and 237 00:10:11,867 --> 00:10:15,867 Speaker 3: experience what Orkland has an officer and stuff. So yeah, 238 00:10:15,867 --> 00:10:17,387 Speaker 3: so I think they want to probably experience a bit 239 00:10:17,427 --> 00:10:20,147 Speaker 3: of New Zealand. So yes, the last game, I know 240 00:10:20,187 --> 00:10:21,947 Speaker 3: this thing. I'm hoping they'd just sort of come out 241 00:10:22,467 --> 00:10:26,307 Speaker 3: I have no fear and maybe stick to the A 242 00:10:26,427 --> 00:10:28,267 Speaker 3: team that he thinks he's just going to go on 243 00:10:28,267 --> 00:10:31,667 Speaker 3: one sort of instead of chopping and changing theirteen guys. 244 00:10:31,667 --> 00:10:33,387 Speaker 3: I think it's pretty tough as well, So hopefully you 245 00:10:33,427 --> 00:10:36,427 Speaker 3: can stick with a solid fifteen and then go after 246 00:10:36,427 --> 00:10:38,067 Speaker 3: it for that for the French anyway. 247 00:10:37,827 --> 00:10:40,027 Speaker 2: But tough on the tourism industry of Hamilton's done. 248 00:10:40,587 --> 00:10:45,747 Speaker 3: Not going to Hamilton, no exactly. And yeah, I just yeah, 249 00:10:45,747 --> 00:10:48,347 Speaker 3: I had an when they were questioning that they were 250 00:10:48,387 --> 00:10:51,987 Speaker 3: just like, oh, now we're going to Auckland. There was 251 00:10:52,027 --> 00:10:54,947 Speaker 3: no Yeah, there was no how Cam you're not. They 252 00:10:54,987 --> 00:10:56,147 Speaker 3: just didn't have the same thing. 253 00:10:56,227 --> 00:10:58,387 Speaker 4: They realized we're just not going to We're just not 254 00:10:58,467 --> 00:11:00,467 Speaker 4: going until the game. Good stuff, Thomas. Hi, great to 255 00:11:00,467 --> 00:11:02,867 Speaker 4: get your analysis, Mite. Thanks for taking the tom this afternoon. 256 00:11:03,867 --> 00:11:05,387 Speaker 2: Mate'll talk you so yeah, look forward to mate. 257 00:11:05,387 --> 00:11:10,467 Speaker 4: Thomas Waldrum, former Hurricanes Crusaders, Maori, all Blacks England loose. 258 00:11:10,307 --> 00:11:14,107 Speaker 1: Forward for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 259 00:11:14,187 --> 00:11:17,427 Speaker 1: live to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or 260 00:11:17,507 --> 00:11:19,387 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio