1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Bridge. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 2: So let's go to ACC. They are backing down. They 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: will continue to let staff work from home three days 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: a week. The corporation had proposed cutting that allowance back 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: to two days a week at home. So the Public 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: Service Association then complained to the Commerce Commission. They've complained 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: to well, anyone who listened Flurfitt, Simon's national secretary with 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: me now for good. 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Evening, Good evening, Ryan. 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: So this all comes down to the job ads, does 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: it is that what has changed their you know, caused 12 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: the change? 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: I think really what it comes down to is common sense. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: ACC had staff working from home up to three days 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: a week. It went well for staff, there was no 16 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: issues with productivity, and ACC then tried to change it 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: really out of the blue, and actually it was working 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: for everybody. So when they tried to change it, staff 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: came out quite strongly, including through the union. We took 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: legal action, we went to the Commerce Commission, and really 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: all of those things have counted towards ACC's decision today. 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: I think when you say that there was no problem 23 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: with productivity, that's according to the staff. What the managers 24 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: said was something very different, wasn't it? If we're being. 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: Honest FLIR managers raise concerns about the ability to create 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: teamwork when you have people working from home up to 27 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: three days a week. What our members told us was 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: that on the days they did come to work, it 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like managers went out of their way to build 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: morale or to build teamwork. And actually what ACC did 31 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: is find ways to build morale and teamwork, including online 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: and with people working from home. 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: How do you build morale online? 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: How do you build morelean so much, let's think of 35 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: what we did during COVID. There's lots of work together 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: on teams across the country. So the reality is ACC 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: is a national organization. It has staff all over the 38 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: country in twenty locations. They all need to work together effectively, 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: and actually working from home where it can work for 40 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: roles that it's suitable for does very well. 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: What days are they taking so they only have to 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: go into the office two days a week. What days 43 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: are they are they working from home? 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, for some roles that's the case. It varies for 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: different people. And part of the reason that varies for 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: different people is that ACC doesn't actually have enough desks 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: for everybody to be in the office in the same day. 48 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: And that's actually the reality for many government departments. They've 49 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: downsized to such a degree that even if everybody did 50 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: come back to work, So. 51 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: The upside, if they upside, you're happy to come back. 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: No, it's about more than that, all right. 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time for if at Simon's Peters For more. 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: From Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news Talks. 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.