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Speaker 1: Now, look, I can see that this idea of forcing

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Speaker 1: rate caps on councils is taking off, So can I

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Speaker 1: just express my concerns about this early on? I personally

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Speaker 1: love the idea of stopping counsels from continually jacking up

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Speaker 1: what they charge us, but I worry that this is

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Speaker 1: not going to fix the problem the situation, because it's

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Speaker 1: not the actual problem is it. The actual problem is

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Speaker 1: that councils spend our money on stupid stuff. Allah the

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Speaker 1: light up toilets in Wellington, even when they've got no money. Allah, Wellington,

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Speaker 1: it's got no money, but they keep on doing this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So even if you stop them having much money because

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Speaker 1: you put on a rate cap, they will continue to

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Speaker 1: spend the money on the wrong things, Allah, Wellington. So

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Speaker 1: what will then happen if you put the rate cap

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Speaker 1: on is that after years and years and years and

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Speaker 1: years of deferred capital expenditure, the pipes will break down

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Speaker 1: because Wellington hasn't spent money on them, and the roads

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Speaker 1: will be in disrepair because Wellington hasn't spent money on them,

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Speaker 1: and the buildings will need earthquake upgrades because Wellington hasn't

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Speaker 1: spent money on them. And then they will say, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at all the trouble we've got, we need more money,

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Speaker 1: and then some government run by somebody like Aunt Robinson

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Speaker 1: will go, yeah, cool, we'll lift the rate cap and

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Speaker 1: they'll just make up for lost ground and go hell

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Speaker 1: for leather and jacket up. Or what they'll do is

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Speaker 1: for years and years and years and years, they will

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Speaker 1: just run everything on the credit card and then they'll say, oh,

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Speaker 1: look it's a debt crisis. Oh, we've got to pay

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Speaker 1: back our debt. We need more money, and some government

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Speaker 1: run by somebody like Grant Robertson will go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's cool, let's lift the rate cap, and then off

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Speaker 1: they go, and they'll just make up for lost ground.

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Speaker 1: See what I mean. It'll make you feel good about

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Speaker 1: it in the short term, but they will get you

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Speaker 1: eventually because the problem is that they aren't spending money properly,

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Speaker 1: and that is actually what we need to fix here now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I think getting rid of some

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Speaker 1: of our councils by canning the regional councils, or canning

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Speaker 1: the district councils, or canning the local the city councils.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Getting rid of some council somewhere may

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Speaker 1: help to limit the costs, but I'm not entirely sure

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Speaker 1: even of that. Ultimately, I think we just need smarter

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Speaker 1: people on council and we need to hold their feet

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Speaker 1: to the fire. But as long as you have numpties

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Speaker 1: and council officials who are shady and you're not watching them,

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Speaker 1: a rate cap will only delay the problem. For more

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