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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the ones

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Speaker 2: Huddle with us this evening for Low Raley and Stuart Nash. Lads, Hello, hey,

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Speaker 2: are you going?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back here?

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Speaker 4: Thank you Phil, Thank you Stewart.

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Speaker 5: You there, welcome back here? That were you a pregnant person?

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Speaker 5: I was a pregnant Did you enjoy doing a pregnant person?

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Speaker 6: I was a person with the service? I was a

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Speaker 6: person with the service. I proved that obviously, So that's good.

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Speaker 6: I think it's wonderful that we've got two lads talking

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Speaker 6: about women's issues today, just to really fire up the websters.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Peel, what anything I mean?

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Speaker 6: Do you think Casey's done the right thing here directing

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Speaker 6: Health New Zealand to use the term pregnant women?

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Speaker 3: That she is absolutely right to do so. And in

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Speaker 3: fact I spoke to a very liberal female colleague of mine,

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Speaker 3: the st Afthternoon, knowing there was going to be two

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Speaker 3: of this? And she absolutely agreed with that Casey Costello

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Speaker 3: was doing for the same reason. And it is that

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Speaker 3: that you can take these things too far. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm all for inclusion. It's a very important thing, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm a champion of all of that. But

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Speaker 3: if you take it too far, you get a reaction

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Speaker 3: and it turns against itself. And I agree with I

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Speaker 3: think Karen Sure from Active this afternoon, by doing the

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Speaker 3: sort of thing, you're actually canceling women. You're you're you're

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Speaker 3: actually ignoring women, And I think that's absolutely right. So

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Speaker 3: I'm all for inclusion. I think it's an important thing,

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Speaker 3: but in this case, I think case you your stale

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Speaker 3: is absolutely right. It's about women. We should be focusing

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Speaker 3: there because they hopefully will turn up feeling included in

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Speaker 3: the health system.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you reckonsume?

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Speaker 5: Oh look, I celebrate people's different sexuality. If you're straight, bisexual, gray, trans, fantastic,

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Speaker 5: go hard and live, you live your best life. But

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Speaker 5: in my very simple world, Heather, if you've got a penis,

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Speaker 5: you're a man. If you've got a vagina, you're a woman.

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Speaker 5: I mean, is that terribly Is that terribly difficult to

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Speaker 5: get hit around?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 6: When you said that, I am, for the first time

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Speaker 6: utterly convinced that you're going to run for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: First, you were in the Labor Party, would you?

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Speaker 5: Well, I probably would have. And it's well no longer there. See.

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Speaker 5: The thing is is that I think ninety six ninety

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Speaker 5: six point five percent of New Zealanders agree with that.

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Speaker 5: Now there's always a small friends day the ms, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: And like I said, I celebrate people's sexuality. Those battles

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Speaker 5: have been fought, and one a long long time ago.

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Speaker 5: You know, we had a gay deputy prime minister for

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Speaker 5: three years. He did a fantastic job. No one cared

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Speaker 5: about his sexuality. They cared about his character and this competency.

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Speaker 5: But but you know, pregnant THEMS, I don't quite get that.

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Speaker 5: It just doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 4: I'm still gone. Then, yeah, are you going to run

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Speaker 4: for New Zealand?

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Speaker 5: First, I'm not denying anything. I mean, I've got him

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Speaker 5: an immense amount of protect for Winston. And isn't he

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Speaker 5: doing a great job? In America? We are very lucky.

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Speaker 5: We are very lucky. We have the best politician in

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Speaker 5: in these most troubled times.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Wiman central and vocal.

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Speaker 4: Phil was that a confirmation or what. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 6: But do you know what, Stu, Because I sent you

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Speaker 6: a text about it when I read it in the papers.

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Speaker 6: I know you didn't text me back rude. But as

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Speaker 6: I said in the text, you're too good at politics

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Speaker 6: to be out at the such a young age, so

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Speaker 6: we'd be lucky to have you back, I think, don't

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Speaker 6: you think, Oh.

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Speaker 5: That's a very close thing to say if I'm enjoying

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Speaker 4: A minute, though.

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Speaker 6: Hey, all you're a dog owner, do you think your dogs,

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Speaker 6: the kind of dogs that you love, the sausage dogs,

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Speaker 6: I expect that you would you'll agree with me that

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Speaker 3: Yet I would, I agree, But I looked at that.

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Speaker 3: I looked at the background to that story. Actually, so

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Speaker 3: this is what's been announced by Andrew Hogart is penalties

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Speaker 3: for those who don't look after the dogs, you know,

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Speaker 3: And it's one of the saddest and most tragic things

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Speaker 3: I see as a dog lover, and many people out

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Speaker 3: So I get really upset about that. It hits me

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Speaker 3: in the heart when I see dogs being abused by that.

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Speaker 3: That's a different thing to dogs abusing other humans. Because

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Speaker 3: I checked that this afternoon, and actually is already quite

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Speaker 3: a lot of penalties available on those matters. If your

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Speaker 3: dog bites someone else, your dog bite someone else, you

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Speaker 3: are liable, You can be fined, Your dog can be

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Speaker 3: taken away from me un destroyed. So already in those circumstances,

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Speaker 3: there's already quite a few pen already, ease and so on.

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Speaker 3: It's this issue that's missing of when I abuse a dog,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's I think Andrew Howg has done

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Speaker 3: exactly the right. Think you should we strengthen up the

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Speaker 3: other ones. Maybe, but I you know, I don't see

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Speaker 3: those as being the major issues. Yeah, I think dog

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Speaker 3: owners will agree. The major issue is, you know, dogs

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Speaker 3: themselves being abused by by loser owners.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to come back to you on that. Ste

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Speaker 6: Just hold you, hold your thought and they will get it.

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Speaker 6: After the break, it's call to two.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty achieve extraordinary

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Speaker 2: Right, you're back of the huddle, Ste, What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Ste Nash and Philo? Really? What do you think about

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Speaker 2: the dog's issue?

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Speaker 5: Stew couldn't agree more with Phil. You know, we've got

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Speaker 5: a fox red lab. He's a He's a boisterous fellow,

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Speaker 5: sleeps at the base of the bed, sit when I'm there.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you. You know who would treat dogs badly?

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Speaker 5: I mean, just something that the vast majority of keys

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Speaker 5: and all your listeners I think agree with. I think

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Speaker 5: how has done the right thing. Phil and I on

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Speaker 6: I guess the problem that I have with it, Phil

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: If you've got a dog that has been tethered up

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Speaker 6: and they're sitting in their own poop, then I don't

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Speaker 6: think a fine is sufficient. I think you take that

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's right. I mean, as a dog lover,

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Speaker 3: and there's the same issues, right, there's plenty of people

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Speaker 3: on listening to this, so he'll be dog lovers. I'd

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Speaker 3: put them in jail. But I mean, at the end

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Speaker 3: a bit proportionate about this, because we don't put people

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Speaker 4: Take the dog and put a dog down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're leaving your dog in that state,

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Speaker 2: you don't deserve a dog.

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Speaker 3: I quite quite agree with that. You definitely take the

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Speaker 3: with that that that should be quite a serious matter

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Speaker 3: if you abuse not just a dog, but an animal

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Speaker 6: Fair enough, Now, Stu, do you think that the government

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Speaker 5: Oh? Well, they claim credit when the stets are good

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Speaker 5: and they keep quiet when the stets aren't. They're still

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Speaker 5: talking about well over one hundred and fifty thousand victims

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Speaker 5: to do. I mean, thank goodness. The last government when

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Speaker 5: of defunding the police is an aenephema to me. Go

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Speaker 5: hard and congratulations to the to the young police service

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Phil, I mean Stew's right right, it's politics. Are

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Speaker 6: if you have an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: That's course. It's a bit like inflation when it's gone

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Speaker 3: bounces that, Oh, look at that. You've got that wrong,

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Speaker 3: you know that. So it's a risky political strategy, but

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Speaker 3: I can understand they want to own the good news,

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Speaker 3: particularly when Tamoth has been raving on about decounting the police.

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Speaker 4: Lord Tamitha stu.

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Speaker 6: Now listen, you're you're in recruitment and you this is

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Speaker 5: It kind of seems obvious. Keep in mind, though, that

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Speaker 5: you kind of do have to be in the office

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Speaker 5: to you know, to answer the tricky questions of the

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Speaker 5: of the big cheeses. But but you are right, I'm

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Speaker 5: but be back in the office, it's you know, there

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Speaker 5: was human socialization and the exchange of ideas around the

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Speaker 5: around the water cooler, I think is a really valuable

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Speaker 5: part of being a high performing team.

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Speaker 6: Totally, phil You just if you're not, If you can't

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Speaker 6: put your clothes on and catch the bus and come

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Speaker 3: Actually A lot of a lot of young people come

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Speaker 3: to me for career advice for reasons that escape me,

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Speaker 3: but they do anyway, And one of the things I

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Speaker 3: be there before your boss, and be there under. Now

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Speaker 3: that may sound old fashioned, but actually it's not because

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Speaker 3: the boss is going to look around one day and

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Speaker 3: it's going to say, I need someone to do this

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Speaker 3: interesting project, or or I've got a question I've got

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Speaker 3: sitting there and I say, great, why don't you do that?

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Speaker 3: And you get an opportunity to shine. So it's not

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Speaker 3: about being old fashioned. It's about being in the right

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Speaker 3: to shine when the opportunity presents itself, because that's actually how,

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Speaker 3: particularly he's a young person, you get ahead. I think

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Speaker 3: there's less of an issue for middle aged and order

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Speaker 3: people very job dependent to Stet's point, and also a

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Speaker 3: turning up and being there for that very reason is

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Speaker 3: really important. That's the advice I give to all young

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Speaker 5: Asked, have a shave eron your shirt, make sure you

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Speaker 5: look smart, and do the job right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rockets, and be up for a big opportunity for

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Speaker 3: the rises. And that's about being there, Jaez.

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Speaker 2: That was such good advice for I can see why

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Speaker 2: the young ones come to you guys, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not that bad.

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Speaker 6: At all, fellow Riley I and you partners and Stuart Nash,

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Speaker 6: former Labor Party minister and New Zealand First candidates and

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Speaker 6: waiting isn't he?

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