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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tam podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B. Start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and Bpure dot co dot

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Speaker 2: Yard in New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to News

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Speaker 2: Dogs Vy, Jack Tam and the Hot Seat with you

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Speaker 2: through to midday after a month overseas, and I've got

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Speaker 2: to say, it is so good to be home, So

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Speaker 2: good to be home. Such a privilege to be in

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Speaker 2: the US for the election, such a privilege to be

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Speaker 2: in Peru of all places, chasing the Prime Minister around us.

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Speaker 2: He met with Shijening for APEC. But just so good

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Speaker 2: to be home, So good to be home, and so

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Speaker 2: good to be with you this Saturday morning. For what

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Speaker 2: is a stocking show? Would you say that there is

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Speaker 2: no good cuisine on earth that doesn't make the most

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Speaker 2: of onions? Because I would. I reckon onions are underrated,

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Speaker 2: still underrated. And before teen o'clock we're gonna give you

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Speaker 2: a recipe using onions in a way that you might

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Speaker 2: not have used them before. We're gonna stuff some onions

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Speaker 2: before ten o'clock on newstalk ZDB, as well as that

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Speaker 2: we're going to tell you about the new Wicked film,

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Speaker 2: plus this incredible new TV show called Say Nothing, which

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Speaker 2: is based on one of my favorite books of all time,

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Speaker 2: So very much looking forward to that. Right now, it

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Speaker 2: is eight minutes past nine, Jack tame Well, the first

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Speaker 2: thing I noticed was Marve's thirst. In the years that

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Speaker 2: I've known my wife, I just can't think of a

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Speaker 2: time when she has voluntarily consumed a glass of water. Coffee, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: ice latte in the morning, PEPs Max in the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: a bit of black death. But water, Nah, water has

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Speaker 2: never really been her jam, And yet here she was,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, glugging back glass after glass after

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Speaker 2: glass of the good stuff. You're pregnant, I said. The

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Speaker 2: next thing I noticed was her sweet tooth, or actually

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Speaker 2: her lack of a sweet tooth. Do you want to treat?

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Speaker 2: I called from the kitchen. And one of my wife's

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Speaker 2: finest qualities is that she never says no to desert.

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Speaker 2: And yet no, I just don't feel like it. She said,

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Speaker 2: You're pregnant. I said. It's amazing how much a line

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Speaker 2: on a stick can change your life. I think when

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Speaker 2: I was younger, I didn't properly appreciate that. Sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes life doesn't go the way you expect it will.

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Speaker 2: I've got lots of friends for whom getting pregnant and

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Speaker 2: having kids hasn't been anything like our experience so far.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it just doesn't happen, and it can

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Speaker 2: be the most painful and traumatic experience. I just feel

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Speaker 2: so fortunate in that sense. Tell you what, though, it

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Speaker 2: is crazy how quickly the algorithms get you. You sign

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Speaker 2: up for one baby app this week, your baby is

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Speaker 2: the size of a turnip, and all of your ads

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Speaker 2: change in an instant to pushchair brands with soft Nordic

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Speaker 2: names and umlauts. Oh to have invested in the baby

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Speaker 2: business a few decades back. I've learned a lot about

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Speaker 2: my wife over the last six months. She's tough, reaching

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Speaker 2: at the traffic lights one minute, back on with her

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Speaker 2: day the next. However, many billion years of evolution and

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Speaker 2: pregnant women are still left with scientifically dubious ACU pressure

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Speaker 2: bands and ginger tea ugh. The good news is her

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Speaker 2: sweet Bo's back into sense of human never left. I

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Speaker 2: found myself thinking about the other parents in my life,

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Speaker 2: and particularly my own. I'm one of four four are

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Speaker 2: already see why people rate raising children as their greatest accomplishment.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited about the prospect of becoming a parent.

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Speaker 2: And although I can kind of understand it all in

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Speaker 2: a theoretical sense, I'm not sure the full weight, the

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Speaker 2: honestly will sink in until our baby is born. Marve's

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Speaker 2: We've tossed around a few ideas for names, and I've

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Speaker 2: been mesmerized by the images on the ultrasound screen. But

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Speaker 2: even as I place my hand on my wife's bump

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Speaker 2: and feel something, feel someone, a bit of me shift

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Speaker 2: and wriggle and kick, for now, it is all just magic.

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Speaker 2: And look, I know there are going to be tough

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Speaker 2: times ahead, exhaustion and exasperation, but I also know the

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Speaker 2: magic will only intensify a new baby, a new generation,

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Speaker 2: Jack Ta ninety two ninety two is the text number

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Speaker 2: this morning. Don't forget that if you're standing. Are sending

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Speaker 2: edb dot co dot nz befourteen o'clock this morning, we're

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Speaker 2: going to look at Liam Lawson's prospects in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson in Las Vegas, say that three times fast.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with our sporto very shortly. Kevin Wyn.

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Speaker 2: We'll kick us off for our Saturday morning next twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes past nine. I'm Jack tame, stoked to be back

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Speaker 2: on Saturday mornings and this is news dog zed.

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Speaker 1: Be no better way to kick of your weekend then

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Speaker 1: with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack tam and beep youwared

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Speaker 2: Carter past nine on you stalks Edb. You're a Jack Tayne.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your lovely text and emails. Jack, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: Best of luck to you both and to little Donald

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Speaker 2: when he arrives his Adrian. Jack, if only you were

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Speaker 2: having a baby, don't forget you're having a teenager too. Yeah, gulp,

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Speaker 2: I can just try and put that just just just

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Speaker 2: completely block that off, like you know, trying to avoid

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Speaker 2: that realization for another couple of years at the very

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Speaker 2: least ninety two ninety two. If you want to send

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Speaker 2: us a message this morning, Kevin Miln is with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. Up to money you Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Money, Hey Jack? Is there no end of congratulations that

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Speaker 3: I have lined up?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, you're going to be a dad,

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Speaker 3: and congratulations to you and Marv for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: And of course last night you won the Best Corn

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Speaker 3: of Hairs, Best Presented News kind of Affairs, something like

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Speaker 3: won twenty years ago this year, and so we're on

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Speaker 5: Cap as it were.

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Speaker 3: And also of course Q and a winning best kind

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Speaker 3: of Fairs program. Yeah, well, believably good. You've had a

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Speaker 3: fantastic night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel very very fortunate. Thank you, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I suppose a cynic would note that

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Speaker 2: the current affairs ecosystem has prayers, not one of what

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Speaker 2: it once was, Kevin. But yeah, I've been around long

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Speaker 2: enough to know that you take these things and feel

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Speaker 2: very grateful for them when they come through.

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Speaker 3: So thank you, and you certainly deserve those awards.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, and you deserve to be a dad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. No, it's very very exciting times,

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Speaker 2: very exciting times. And Kevin, you've you've had an interesting week.

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Speaker 2: You have noted an interesting old sign that has been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a lad sign hanging up on the

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Speaker 3: They were doing renovations and didn't want to sign anymore.

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Speaker 3: The sign reads, any known gang member or person wearing

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Speaker 3: gang patches or emblems will not be permitted in this hotel.

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Speaker 3: hotel proprietors might consider their bars safer if gang members

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Speaker 3: members caused just as much trouble without their jackets on.

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Speaker 3: Were bar patrons under greater threat from gang members wearing

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Speaker 3: with the patches, Skinny scared fellows like me knew who

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Speaker 3: not to spill beer over. I suspect that the reason

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Speaker 3: all for toughening up on the gangs that have yet

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Speaker 3: cause agro by forcing gang members to remove their patches.

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Speaker 3: Just to make my point, if gangs didn't wear patches

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Speaker 3: them wear identifications so we all knew who the hell

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Speaker 3: they were. Ironically, we're going to try to force these

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Speaker 3: they are. It won't work, of course, which is just

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Speaker 3: son Biki's directions, I want to know if they're motorcycle

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Speaker 3: enthusiasts from the Ulysses Club or lads from the Filthy Feu.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because I

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think Patch gang members are really intimidating,

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Speaker 2: I remember police said this when the game patch band

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Speaker 2: to be able to identify who's in again they're all

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Speaker 2: a little bit easier. But the proof of the pudding.

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Speaker 3: Isn't only for the police, but for those of us

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Speaker 2: Interesting that you're interesting that you're you know, like your

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Speaker 2: is you know quite relevant? You could go string it

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, I might sell it back to

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Speaker 3: the pub again. Yeah yeah, yeah, you order the police.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Hey, thank you so much, Kevin. That's a

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Speaker 2: really interesting perspective, and I'm sure lots of listeners will

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Speaker 2: if you've got some before ten o'clock this morning, We've

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Speaker 2: got your movie picks for this weekend. Really looking forward

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Speaker 2: to discuss this morning ones and cinema's ones at home.

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Speaker 2: So let's start off with the one on the big screen.

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Speaker 2: This is Wicked.

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Speaker 10: Fellow ausience, the Wicked Witch of the West is dead.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell you the whole story.

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Speaker 11: Our past did cross a school?

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Speaker 2: You agree?

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Speaker 12: I am?

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Speaker 1: There is no can.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is Wicked, Part one, tell us about it, Friendziskot.

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Speaker 11: That is a very That is a very good point

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Speaker 11: you make their part one. Let there are a few

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Speaker 11: things you kind of need to know about this film. One,

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Speaker 11: it is based on the musical, which I have not seen.

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Speaker 11: The musical, of course, is a smash it on Broadway.

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Speaker 11: And I know that there are a lot of super

447
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Speaker 11: fans out there who cannot wait to see this film.

448
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Speaker 11: But you are actually only going to see half of

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Speaker 11: this musical. So it's in two parts and you're going

450
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Speaker 11: to have to wait another year to see part two.

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Speaker 11: And part one is very long. It's like two and

452
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Speaker 11: three quarter hours. I think I'm not entirely sure whether

453
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Speaker 11: this musical needs to be a five hour cinematic journey,

454
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Speaker 11: but those super fans out there will probably true by that. Yes,

455
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Speaker 11: So this is, of course the original story of Glinda

456
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Speaker 11: the Good Witch and the Wicked Witch of the West.

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Speaker 11: Glinda or Glinda as she was called, is played by

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Speaker 11: Ariander Grande and Alphabar is played by Cynthia and Vero,

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Speaker 11: and both of them are absolutely fantastic and thank goodness

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Speaker 11: for them. Green did sitting there for almost three hours.

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Speaker 11: Arie under Grande. She just does bond blonde beautifully. We

462
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Speaker 11: have a lot of laughs with her, not at her character.

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Speaker 11: She's just a lovely narcissist. She does it brilliant job.

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Speaker 11: Cynthia's sill of heart and complexity as this teenage girl

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Speaker 11: who was born Green and the two of them meet

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Speaker 11: at the university. So this is kind of like Harry

467
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Speaker 11: Potter meets men Girls. It's a film, obviously, you know

468
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Speaker 11: the story. It's just about acceptance. Something different in his

469
00:25:39,213 --> 00:25:41,893
Speaker 11: nature or nurture make us evil? You know what is

470
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Speaker 11: it that actually makes this terms alphabet into the Wicked

471
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Speaker 11: Witch of the West. But really it's all about having

472
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Speaker 11: some in this film. It's shiny, it's slick, it's colorful.

473
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Speaker 11: The costumes and the craft that's gone into it is

474
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Speaker 11: really incredible. But it really is kind of just all

475
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Speaker 11: sweetness in life. I'm hoping Part two gets a little

476
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Speaker 11: grittier and gets a little darker. We might kind of

477
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Speaker 11: get to the bottom of some of these questions that

478
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Speaker 11: you might have if you're a fan of the Wizard

479
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Speaker 11: of Ours. So, look, I enjoyed it. Under it's a spectacle.

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Speaker 11: I think fans are going to love it. Still not

481
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Speaker 11: entirely convinced. We need five hours possibly of this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah the film Jack You know me, though I.

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Speaker 11: Love I don't mind a music on stage, but I'm

484
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Speaker 11: not huge fan of the musical. The film adaptations, I

485
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Speaker 11: kind of go, yeah, yeah, we could skip the song

486
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Speaker 11: and just move the story along. That's how I tend

487
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Speaker 11: to feel in a film. But I'm sure this is

488
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Speaker 11: don't be hugely popular. But just bear in mind that

489
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Speaker 11: time frame, that the length of it and things, because

490
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Speaker 11: it's not probably something you drag young kids too.

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Speaker 2: No, no, okay, very good. That is wicked. So that's

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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas at the moment. Very good. Let's tell

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Speaker 2: listen to Canary Black.

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Speaker 6: As your griefs. She's my first My father worked for

495
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Speaker 6: the agency.

496
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Speaker 13: She was groomed, so she was at.

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Speaker 6: Her husband. You a missed civilian doesn't know who she is?

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Speaker 2: Is you on the frim issus Gun, Honey, that is

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Speaker 2: Canary Black, totally different to our first film, and this

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Speaker 2: one's streaming on Prime Video.

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Speaker 11: You know me, I always like to bring you something

502
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Speaker 11: slightly ridiculous, and this is a pretty ridiculous thriller which

503
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Speaker 11: is screening on Prime. As you mentioned, Kate Pecntell is

504
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Speaker 11: a CIA spy whose husband is kidnapped and then she's

505
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Speaker 11: blackmailed to provide a secret file or else he dies,

506
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Speaker 11: and off we go on this kind of rescue mission

507
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Speaker 11: that has numerous spy agencies chasing her, including her own,

508
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Speaker 11: and she obviously has to try and get the spile,

509
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Speaker 11: which is known as Canary Black, and save her husband.

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Speaker 11: It's NonStop action. If you want a bit of a

511
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Speaker 11: fight fest, a gun fest. This film does keep moving

512
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Speaker 11: at a good clip, but it is very formulaic. The

513
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Speaker 11: reason I thought i'd give it a go is because

514
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Speaker 11: it is directed by Pierre Morrell, who did Taken and

515
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Speaker 11: District thirteen and Freelancers. He's pretty good at pulling all

516
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Speaker 11: the action together. I did have one small issue, and

517
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Speaker 11: that's with Kate Beckinsale, who does a solid job here,

518
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Speaker 11: but she's she is basically on the run day and

519
00:28:20,693 --> 00:28:24,733
Speaker 11: night for days and still looks impeccable with this very

520
00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:28,733
Speaker 11: chic leather jacket and runs around on high heeled boots. Now,

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Speaker 11: I just guide that I would play game of tennis

522
00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:33,733
Speaker 11: and high hills and my younger days. But you could

523
00:28:33,773 --> 00:28:35,733
Speaker 11: just see she is struggling to run on them. She

524
00:28:35,813 --> 00:28:38,493
Speaker 11: cannot get her tom Cruise run on and then that

525
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Speaker 11: makes you question how much of the stunt she's doing.

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Speaker 11: I think she does it, but you wonder how much

527
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Speaker 11: the stunt double did then. So the fact that my

528
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Speaker 11: mind is distracted by these things probably tells you something

529
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Speaker 11: about the substance of this film. But if you want

530
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Speaker 11: a little bit of action, NonStop action without leaving the house,

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Speaker 11: you won't want to give it a try this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Okay, that's Canary Black. You know, you

533
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Speaker 2: remind me of a certain person in my household who

534
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Speaker 2: every time there's one of those you know, we're watching

535
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Speaker 2: one of those CSI programs, you know, how they did

536
00:29:07,173 --> 00:29:10,213
Speaker 2: their crime scene Investigators, and she's forever lamenting how none

537
00:29:10,213 --> 00:29:13,773
Speaker 2: of the women have their hair tied up. She's like, surely,

538
00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:16,213
Speaker 2: if you are a forensic scientist, you are not just

539
00:29:16,293 --> 00:29:18,693
Speaker 2: having a full headed here, just flapping about in the

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Speaker 2: breeze like that.

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Speaker 9: Anyway, that's good point.

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Speaker 2: Look, don't don't let the you know, don't let the

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Speaker 2: facts of life get in the way of a good story,

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Speaker 2: I suppose. Thank you so much, Francisca. Those films again,

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Speaker 2: Canary Black is showing on Amazon Prime or on Prime

546
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Speaker 2: Video rather and Wicked, the first film is in cinemas now.

547
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Speaker 2: Kind of long, but a lot of fun. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Francisca.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 2: We've had a disrupted couple of weeks on Saturday Mornings

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Speaker 2: on News Talks dB. So a fortnight ago you probably

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Speaker 2: don't remember this, but the All Blacks were playing, I know,

555
00:29:56,853 --> 00:29:58,333
Speaker 2: so rude of them to schedule the game for the

556
00:29:58,373 --> 00:30:00,373
Speaker 2: same time as our show. So that meant that we

557
00:30:00,413 --> 00:30:02,413
Speaker 2: got bumped for the All Blacks. Can you believe it?

558
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Speaker 2: Last week at this time exactly ago, I think I

559
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Speaker 2: was in a room with Prime Minister Christopher Luxen and

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Speaker 2: the Chinese President Hijinping in Lima, in Peru, of all places.

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Speaker 2: So that was, yeah, one of those kind of amazing

562
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Speaker 2: and slightly unusual experiences that I'm very fortunate to have

563
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Speaker 2: from time to time in my profession. My impressions of

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Speaker 2: Lima were that it was a really interesting and exciting city.

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Speaker 2: I've never been to Peru before. I've been fortunate to

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Speaker 2: travel through other parts of Latin America quite a bit,

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Speaker 2: through Columbia and through Argentina, through Bolivia, those sorts of places.

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Speaker 2: And the thing about Lima is that it's on the

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Speaker 2: Pacific coast, so immediately there's a little bit of familiarity,

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Speaker 2: you know, when you when you're looking out over the Pacific,

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Speaker 2: even if you're on the other side, it sort of

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Speaker 2: feels a little bit like home. The food in Lima

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Speaker 2: was incredible. I think we had savicia every single day,

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Speaker 2: lots of like Lomo saltado, which is this kind of

575
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Speaker 2: amazing beef dish they served there, and one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite things. It sounds so simple, but they have this

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Speaker 2: sort of rotisserie chicken that they make in Peru that

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Speaker 2: I don't know. This is something about the chicken that

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Speaker 2: maybe they just have more fat in the chicken or something.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely delicious. So I had a lot of rotisserie

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Speaker 2: chicken while I was in Peru, and yeah, the cuisine

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Speaker 2: was an absolute highlight. It's a real privilege to go

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Speaker 2: there for a few days last week, and I want

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Speaker 2: to return to Peru now because I haven't been up

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Speaker 2: into the Andes. I think that's one of the one

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Speaker 2: of the key things you got to do if you're

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Speaker 2: traveling there, go up into Cosco, much Repeacha, all that

588
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff. So that's going to be on the

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Speaker 2: bucket list for the time being. Right now, it is

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes two ten on News talks. eNB Cook. Necki

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Speaker 2: Wicks is here with us this morning.

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Speaker 14: Killed her.

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Speaker 15: Oh my mouth is watering listening to all of that.

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Speaker 15: I've not been there either, but I hear the cuisine

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Speaker 15: is absolutely outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's because they have a real Japanese

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Speaker 2: influence as well. They have the sort of que cuisine

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Speaker 2: there in Peru, which is sort of it's a cross

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Speaker 2: Pacific cuisine, I suppose, Yeah, it's yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 15: We have those restaurants in Auckland Azubu that yeah, that

601
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Speaker 15: cross of yeah, that's right across between Japanese and Peruvian.

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Speaker 15: And I was like, where did that come from?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we had we had kui as well, so

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Speaker 2: we had which is guinea pig, and it's one of

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Speaker 2: these things where you go, oh my gosh, if you know.

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Speaker 2: Even I was like, oh, okay, guinea pig. I remember

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Speaker 2: very quickly. We went on this tour with this woman

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Speaker 2: who we're looking at some of the ruins and lima

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Speaker 2: and there are a few ruins and lima. Anyway, she

610
00:32:36,613 --> 00:32:39,013
Speaker 2: was talking to us and she said, she said, in

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Speaker 2: other countries koui pet, not in Peru. In Peru cooy

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Speaker 2: food was like, yeah, but it was one of these

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Speaker 2: things that it honestly didn't feel like it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: novelty like it was. It felt like a really good, yeah,

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Speaker 2: really kind of nutritious protein. So so yeah.

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Speaker 15: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Oh great, Well, look there you go.

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Speaker 15: Lots of news this morning, and I'm so delighted by

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Speaker 15: your news. Jack Well, I mean, congratulations on your wards

620
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Speaker 15: as well.

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Speaker 12: I mean, what a beautiful, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Time for you.

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Speaker 15: It must seem like everything's coming together nicely.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and you well deserved.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have.

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Speaker 15: Recently farewelled my dear mum. Yeah, and that's been a

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Speaker 15: big thing for our family. But I loved listening to

630
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Speaker 15: your news this morning because it made me think about

631
00:33:25,973 --> 00:33:29,373
Speaker 15: that beautiful cycle of life. And there's nothing that makes

632
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Speaker 15: me happier than thinking about new life coming in as

633
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Speaker 15: beautiful other lives come to an end. So I wanted

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Speaker 15: to share this morning one of our one of mom's

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Speaker 15: favorite recipes, which was for stuffed onions baked in a

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Speaker 15: tomato e cream suce. And I heard your intro and

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Speaker 15: I'm with you on the onions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the underrated hero of cooking.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I love it, and this is this this recipe

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Speaker 15: is a chance for the onions to really shine. And

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Speaker 15: Mum would make this often, and I suspect now I'll

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Speaker 15: be doing the arduous task this Christmas because it's such

643
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Speaker 15: a gorgeous dish and my vegetarian sisters adore it and

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Speaker 15: would always say, Mum, can we have the stuff onions.

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Speaker 15: I want to say to our listeners that the recipe

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Speaker 15: sounds complicated, but it's really simple, and it really is,

647
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Speaker 15: so I'm going to rush through the recipe now, but

648
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Speaker 15: obviously they can go online. It's just so delicious. Basically,

649
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Speaker 15: you've got these leaves of onion and they are stuffed

650
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Speaker 15: with spinach and silver beet, which is rampant in the

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Speaker 15: gardens and the stores at the moment. Ricotta with some

652
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Speaker 15: parmesan cheese in there. And then the whole thing jack

653
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Speaker 15: is doused in this tomato and cream sauce that spiked

654
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Speaker 15: ever so slightly with cayne, pepper and salt. It's just amazing.

655
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Speaker 15: And then it's all baked. So look here you go

656
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Speaker 15: to get the leaves of the onion. You cut the

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Speaker 15: onions with the skin still on from top to bottom,

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Speaker 15: from root to tip, only halfway through through to the heart.

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Speaker 15: And then you put them, you know, boil and then

660
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Speaker 15: you boil them in some boiling water for twenty to

661
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Speaker 15: twenty five minutes. And I remember standing beside Mum when

662
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Speaker 15: I got it to show me this recipe, and I

663
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Speaker 15: was just like, what, you're not peeling them whatever, you know,

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Speaker 15: And you boil them for twenty to twenty five minutes

665
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Speaker 15: and they open up a little bit and they soften

666
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Speaker 15: a little bit, So take them out of the pot,

667
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Speaker 15: let them call. And while they're doing that, you can

668
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Speaker 15: sort of parboil your spinach or silver beet or whatever

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Speaker 15: and squeeze all the out of that and make the

670
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Speaker 15: rest of that stuffing, so you can mash the ricotta

671
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Speaker 15: the eggs. Use two eggs, two seventy five grams of ricotta.

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Speaker 15: I've used about five hundred bout half a kilo of

673
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Speaker 15: washed spinach and silver beet. That's half a kilo raw,

674
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Speaker 15: so it's tons, and about fifty to one hundred grams

675
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Speaker 15: of parmesan cheese, good pinch of maybe oregano, thyme, marjoram,

676
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:46,133
Speaker 15: something like that, good dose of salt and pepper, and

677
00:35:46,133 --> 00:35:48,653
Speaker 15: that's your filling. And by the time you've done that,

678
00:35:49,453 --> 00:35:52,573
Speaker 15: your beautiful onions will have softened. What you then do

679
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Speaker 15: is take off the skin. You're going to discard that,

680
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Speaker 15: and then you can really easily jack it's surprising, separate

681
00:35:58,893 --> 00:36:01,613
Speaker 15: the layers of the onions so they come away in

682
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Speaker 15: these beautiful big leaves. And remember we only cut them

683
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Speaker 15: down one side. So what you're able to do is

684
00:36:07,493 --> 00:36:09,933
Speaker 15: you'll get about six or seven leaves or layers from

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Speaker 15: each onion. And I just love that metaphor of separating

686
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Speaker 15: the layers of the heeling back the onion dry and

687
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Speaker 15: pat them a bit dry. Right in the center the

688
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Speaker 15: hearts of those you can chop those fine men add

689
00:36:22,253 --> 00:36:24,133
Speaker 15: those to the stuffing. They won't be much used to

690
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Speaker 15: us because they're too small. But then you place a

691
00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:31,453
Speaker 15: big spoonful of the stuffing, don't overstuff. Then they'll stitch

692
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Speaker 15: you up later into each one of those onion sections

693
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Speaker 15: and you sort of roll them up jack and you

694
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Speaker 15: paste them seamside down in an oven dish that you've buttered,

695
00:36:40,293 --> 00:36:43,813
Speaker 15: and they'll all fit snugly around. And then really simple sauce.

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Speaker 15: You pure can of tomatoes tin four hundred and fifty

697
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Speaker 15: grams of pudiful tomatoes, nice plump tomatoes, two hundred and

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Speaker 15: fifty miles of cream, bit of cayenne pepper in there,

699
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Speaker 15: and some salt. Pour half of that over your onions

700
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Speaker 15: and then just start cocking them. Bake them at one

701
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Speaker 15: hundred and eighty degrees for about forty five minutes. Spoon

702
00:37:02,573 --> 00:37:04,453
Speaker 15: over a bit more sauce as they're cooking. If they

703
00:37:04,453 --> 00:37:07,973
Speaker 15: look to be drying out, and they melting and delicious

704
00:37:08,053 --> 00:37:10,333
Speaker 15: and divine. Yeah, and you can have them just served

705
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Speaker 15: with a little salads.

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Speaker 2: They sound beautiful, they really do. They sound incredible, Niki,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Look what we'll do is we'll put that

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Speaker 2: recipe of your mom up on the News Talks EP website,

709
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Speaker 2: and thank you so much. I know it's been a

710
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Speaker 2: really trying a couple of weeks for your family, but

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Speaker 2: we've been thinking of you and we're so glad to

712
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Speaker 2: have you back. So sorry for your loss seven to ten.

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Speaker 2: It'd be Jason to flting me note. So Jack, my

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Speaker 2: Peruvian wife was just listening to you and loving your

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Speaker 2: description of the cuisine. We'll tell your Peruvian wife that

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love Peruvian food. It's just so good. The

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Speaker 2: po labrasa, the po la brasa, the retisserie chicken was

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Speaker 2: one of those it's like you had it once and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh maybe we should just may should

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Speaker 2: just have it again? Yes? We just yeah, true, you

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Speaker 2: I just reckon the thing about raw fish is that

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Speaker 2: it's one of those rare foods that's both incredibly delicious

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Speaker 2: and incredibly good for you. There can't be that many

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you a bit more about Prue after at

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock this morning, as well as that our feature

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Speaker 2: interview this guy, Neil Thompson. He is an amazing conductor.

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Speaker 2: He's conducted orchestras all around the world. He's heading to

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Speaker 2: Auckland to lead this amazing new show about Gene Kelly,

736
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Speaker 2: so we'll tell you about that as well as that.

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Speaker 2: Will have your TV show picks for the week in

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Speaker 2: this week's screen Time section, including a new show Saying Nothing,

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Speaker 6: Yes in the.

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Speaker 16: Ray, what a glororious fee And I'm again I'm loving

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Speaker 16: a cloud so dark coll the suns in my heart.

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Speaker 16: Therefore love left the star clouds.

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Speaker 2: Chase glon New Zealan, Good morning, Welcome to news Talk's Envy.

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Speaker 2: Jack came with you through the twelve o'clock Next year,

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Speaker 2: The Auckland Philarmonia Orchestra is going to perform an incredible

751
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Speaker 2: one night only performance of Gene Kelly, A Life in Music.

752
00:39:42,933 --> 00:39:46,173
Speaker 2: The show is a mesmerizing trip down memory lane with

753
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Speaker 2: a combination of film clips, stories, and live performance, highlighting

754
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Speaker 2: the legendary dancer, director, and choreographer Gene Kelly, who celebrated

755
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Speaker 2: and popularized dance in mainstream cinema. Leading the orchestra as

756
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Speaker 2: musical conductor extraordinary Neil Thompson. Neil has had all sorts

757
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Speaker 2: of amazing jobs. He's worked in concert halls and with

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Speaker 2: orchestras around the world. Well, he actually did a similar

759
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Speaker 2: live show Titanic in Auckland and twenty eighteen. And Neil

760
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Speaker 2: is currently the principal conductor and Artistic director at Orchestra

761
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Speaker 2: Philharmonica Jigoyas, the Philharmonic Orchestra of Goyas in Brazil, and

762
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Speaker 2: he joins us from Brazil this morning. Counda good morning,

763
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Speaker 2: good morning, It is great to be yes, well, good afternoon. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it is a bit of a bit of a head

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Speaker 2: spin when we're going from Brazil to Auckland, but of

766
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Speaker 2: course you are very soon going to be coming from

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Speaker 2: Brazil to Auckland and so tell us first of all,

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Speaker 2: a little bit about why tell us about gene Kelly

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Speaker 2: A life in music.

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Speaker 14: Well, my connection with this show is very personal because

771
00:40:48,813 --> 00:40:52,333
Speaker 14: earlier in my career I did a lot of these

772
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Speaker 14: movies live with symphony orchestra. About ten fifteen years ago,

773
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Speaker 14: I was booked to do Singing in the reren at

774
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Speaker 14: the Album Hall. It was the first time singing in

775
00:41:02,973 --> 00:41:05,573
Speaker 14: arena had been done live with symphony orchestra. At about

776
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Speaker 14: a month before the show, I got this email from

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Speaker 14: the title was from missus gene Kelly, and I thought, now,

778
00:41:13,093 --> 00:41:16,133
Speaker 14: what's what's this? This is interesting And I had this

779
00:41:16,293 --> 00:41:19,693
Speaker 14: very friendly note just saying that she was going to

780
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Speaker 14: be introducing the show and it would be nice to

781
00:41:22,173 --> 00:41:25,173
Speaker 14: meet me and everything. And so I was expecting this

782
00:41:25,373 --> 00:41:29,053
Speaker 14: woman in her eighties, you know, to turn up. And

783
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Speaker 14: then there was this very glamorous woman in her late

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Speaker 14: fifties who I met at the Album Hall and we

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Speaker 14: became friends. We got on well, I got We got

786
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Speaker 14: on well really from from from the off and we

787
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Speaker 14: did Singing in the Rain in Dublin. We did it

788
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Speaker 14: also another show in London, and Patricia told me that

789
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Speaker 14: she'd been thinking about making a show, which really showed

790
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Speaker 14: Jeanes the range of his work, you know, and he

791
00:42:02,413 --> 00:42:05,253
Speaker 14: was if you only have to listen to him sing,

792
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Speaker 14: he was one of the most apely musical people that

793
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:10,653
Speaker 14: you have that one could I even talk like I've

794
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Speaker 14: met him. It's interesting. That's that's something I'll talk about,

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Speaker 14: one of the most instinctive. There's not a sound that

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Speaker 14: comes out of his mouth or a move that he

797
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:21,493
Speaker 14: makes isn't musical. So she wanted it to be something

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Speaker 14: that highlighted this, you know, Gene Kenny and music. So

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Speaker 14: it's basically two and a half hours of clips from

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Speaker 14: various films and TV programs across the length along the

801
00:42:32,573 --> 00:42:39,453
Speaker 14: length of his career. The films have been absolutely scrubbed up,

802
00:42:40,053 --> 00:42:41,973
Speaker 14: so you've never you've never seen prints like it now.

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00:42:42,013 --> 00:42:44,093
Speaker 14: I mean, it's it's fantastic. They're so clean, the sound

804
00:42:44,133 --> 00:42:47,173
Speaker 14: is so clean, and what is important is that the

805
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:52,373
Speaker 14: music is the original orchestrations that were used in the movies,

806
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Speaker 14: which have been reconstructed. This might not seem like such

807
00:42:56,813 --> 00:42:59,893
Speaker 14: a big deal, but when you know that when one

808
00:43:00,013 --> 00:43:02,893
Speaker 14: chief executive of MGM arrived I think in the seventies,

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00:43:02,893 --> 00:43:05,773
Speaker 14: that could be wrong. He decided that basically the library

810
00:43:05,813 --> 00:43:07,853
Speaker 14: where all the mw from all these great musicals whilst

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Speaker 14: was taking up space. So now it's it's landfill under

812
00:43:11,293 --> 00:43:14,493
Speaker 14: a golf course summer in California. So all these scores

813
00:43:14,533 --> 00:43:19,653
Speaker 14: and the orchestral parts were destroyed. So my friend and

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00:43:20,013 --> 00:43:24,013
Speaker 14: old student, John Wilson, who's made a really a career

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Speaker 14: out of doing this, has reconstructed all these scores to

816
00:43:28,293 --> 00:43:30,613
Speaker 14: their original glory. And you had to do most of

817
00:43:30,653 --> 00:43:33,493
Speaker 14: it just by seeing little sketches on manuscript paper, but

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Speaker 14: by listening to the recordings, I mean, it's it's an

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Speaker 14: extraordinary sort of labor of love. So this film is

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Speaker 14: very special for that because it's really authentic. You know,

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Speaker 14: the clips look fantastic, and the it's the original orchestrations.

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Speaker 14: So this show was in gestation for many years. I

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Speaker 14: think there was a lot of things of getting the

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00:43:57,053 --> 00:44:00,253
Speaker 14: rights to the movies. When anytime you do something with

825
00:44:00,373 --> 00:44:03,373
Speaker 14: film music, you spend more time speaking to lawyers than

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Speaker 14: you do to musicians, and that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 14: So it took Patricia a long time to get it

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Speaker 14: into shape. Then we did the premiere of it must

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Speaker 14: have been before the pandemic in Scotland in Glasgow and Edinburgh,

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Speaker 14: then the year later in Dublin. Last year we did

831
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Speaker 14: three shows in Seattle, and we've just done two shows

832
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Speaker 14: in Vancouver last weekend, in fact, last Saturday, last Friday

833
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Speaker 14: and Saturday was in Vancouver. So and now we're coming

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Speaker 14: to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is remarkable, Neil. So I'm going

836
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Speaker 2: to ask you a bit more about about Jane and

837
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Speaker 2: the kind of relationship you feel with Jane. In a moment,

838
00:44:42,413 --> 00:44:44,293
Speaker 2: can you just just talk to us about how the

839
00:44:44,573 --> 00:44:48,613
Speaker 2: actual mechanics of the show works. So from from the

840
00:44:48,653 --> 00:44:52,933
Speaker 2: perspective of someone in the audience, the orchestra is playing

841
00:44:53,053 --> 00:44:56,293
Speaker 2: music which is perfectly timed to the projections on screen,

842
00:44:56,373 --> 00:44:57,933
Speaker 2: right are.

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Speaker 14: They projected the film and the orchestra is playing live

844
00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:03,653
Speaker 14: and then it's my problem to make sure it's synchronizing.

845
00:45:04,053 --> 00:45:09,933
Speaker 14: And then in between each clip, Patricia talks about the films,

846
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:12,853
Speaker 14: talks about the clips. But I think what is wonderful

847
00:45:12,893 --> 00:45:16,373
Speaker 14: is that she she has so many stories about Gene

848
00:45:17,413 --> 00:45:19,453
Speaker 14: that people come away to feeling that they know him

849
00:45:19,453 --> 00:45:22,013
Speaker 14: a little bit. And I mean, really, now I've done

850
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:24,493
Speaker 14: the show so many times, I feel like I've worked

851
00:45:24,493 --> 00:45:26,533
Speaker 14: with them and when I when I talk about him,

852
00:45:26,573 --> 00:45:29,973
Speaker 14: I call him Gene, which could sound sort of very pretentious,

853
00:45:29,973 --> 00:45:33,213
Speaker 14: but it's completely un self conscious. I feel I know

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00:45:33,453 --> 00:45:37,373
Speaker 14: the man. And this is wonderful, it's very it's it's

855
00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:39,733
Speaker 14: very rare to have that sense of, you know, with

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00:45:39,893 --> 00:45:41,973
Speaker 14: a person who's no longer with us, to have that

857
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:46,053
Speaker 14: personal collection. And this is what takes away from it.

858
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Speaker 2: It is amazing that that you can form that connection.

859
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:50,293
Speaker 2: I suppose it's the kind of magic of the arts,

860
00:45:50,613 --> 00:45:55,653
Speaker 2: isn't it? And and especially when as you described, the

861
00:45:55,733 --> 00:46:00,053
Speaker 2: process involves a certain amount of reverse engineering, right like you,

862
00:46:00,053 --> 00:46:03,853
Speaker 2: you are going back and unlike a composer who would

863
00:46:03,893 --> 00:46:07,693
Speaker 2: be writing something afresh and writing something from scratch, it's

864
00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:12,533
Speaker 2: taken that meticulous attention to detail, to listen to every

865
00:46:13,413 --> 00:46:17,893
Speaker 2: quaver and semi quaver, every single instrument, every every pause,

866
00:46:17,893 --> 00:46:20,853
Speaker 2: every coder, and work out how the whole kind of

867
00:46:21,013 --> 00:46:24,933
Speaker 2: jigsaw fits together. Like, give us a musicians perspective, how

868
00:46:24,933 --> 00:46:28,253
Speaker 2: would that compere to a regular composing process.

869
00:46:29,213 --> 00:46:34,413
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, for a for a start, you're you're reconstructing,

870
00:46:34,533 --> 00:46:37,253
Speaker 14: So even if you were a composer, you're not putting

871
00:46:37,293 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 14: your own voice into it. You're reconstructing someone else's it's

872
00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:45,013
Speaker 14: a recreative process rather than a creative process. Because if

873
00:46:45,013 --> 00:46:47,253
Speaker 14: you're a composer and you're writing a symphony, it's going

874
00:46:47,293 --> 00:46:50,733
Speaker 14: to be your voice. But as in the recreation process,

875
00:46:50,933 --> 00:46:54,613
Speaker 14: you're trying to find the essence of somebody else's voice.

876
00:46:54,813 --> 00:46:57,333
Speaker 14: And that's what's so fascinating. John Tommy, he's reconstructed a

877
00:46:57,373 --> 00:46:59,973
Speaker 14: lot of the movies. He reconstructed The Wizard of Oz

878
00:47:00,093 --> 00:47:03,533
Speaker 14: and he said he spent like six hours over three

879
00:47:03,573 --> 00:47:06,813
Speaker 14: bars listening with his ear up against the speaker, trying

880
00:47:06,813 --> 00:47:09,013
Speaker 14: to work which instrument was playing.

881
00:47:09,053 --> 00:47:13,453
Speaker 2: Which note, surely, surely AI for this now, Neil, come on,

882
00:47:13,493 --> 00:47:16,213
Speaker 2: there must be some must technical solution.

883
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:20,093
Speaker 14: Is AI compositions that I mean, maybe in the future

884
00:47:20,093 --> 00:47:21,573
Speaker 14: they'll be good, But that's terrible.

885
00:47:21,693 --> 00:47:25,933
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so for you flying in your like you

886
00:47:25,973 --> 00:47:28,653
Speaker 2: say you've been, you've been around the world recently, how

887
00:47:28,653 --> 00:47:30,613
Speaker 2: does it work with the Philharmonic. You just have to

888
00:47:30,653 --> 00:47:32,653
Speaker 2: hope that they've been doing their homework and you fly

889
00:47:32,773 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 2: into Auckland and basically you sit down, you turn on

890
00:47:35,933 --> 00:47:37,213
Speaker 2: the screens and you find.

891
00:47:36,973 --> 00:47:40,293
Speaker 14: Out I mean basically, I mean, if I remember from

892
00:47:40,293 --> 00:47:42,213
Speaker 14: the last time you have you have a rehearsal with

893
00:47:42,253 --> 00:47:44,733
Speaker 14: the walkstra clearly to go through everything. Then you'll have

894
00:47:44,853 --> 00:47:46,533
Speaker 14: a rehearsal on the day of the concert when you

895
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:48,973
Speaker 14: run everything with the film. But I mean, and I

896
00:47:49,013 --> 00:47:50,933
Speaker 14: know this books, I remember the sooks. They're very good,

897
00:47:50,973 --> 00:47:53,533
Speaker 14: they're very quick, very nice. So I'm not I'm not

898
00:47:53,653 --> 00:47:56,933
Speaker 14: worried about it at all. My only worry is myself

899
00:47:57,173 --> 00:48:00,893
Speaker 14: because to synchronize with the film, even though I've done

900
00:48:00,893 --> 00:48:03,693
Speaker 14: it seven or eight times, it's if you're half a

901
00:48:03,733 --> 00:48:09,653
Speaker 14: second out or you know, it doesn't sing so and

902
00:48:09,693 --> 00:48:13,453
Speaker 14: people notice. In a way, if you do your job perfectly,

903
00:48:13,493 --> 00:48:16,733
Speaker 14: nobody notices you're there. But if you're not together with

904
00:48:16,773 --> 00:48:19,213
Speaker 14: the film, oh yeah, there's a conductor. There's a conductor there,

905
00:48:19,213 --> 00:48:19,413
Speaker 14: you know.

906
00:48:19,853 --> 00:48:22,773
Speaker 2: So that's a very good point. Sorry to interrupt you.

907
00:48:22,813 --> 00:48:25,053
Speaker 2: It's a very good point because if you were if

908
00:48:25,093 --> 00:48:28,773
Speaker 2: you were conducting an orchestra regularly, no one notices if

909
00:48:28,813 --> 00:48:31,573
Speaker 2: you are going slightly faster or slower than you should be.

910
00:48:32,013 --> 00:48:35,133
Speaker 2: And if you are conducting an orchestra for say a ballet,

911
00:48:35,333 --> 00:48:37,973
Speaker 2: well we can always play in the bellerinas, right, But

912
00:48:39,293 --> 00:48:42,453
Speaker 2: this it's all on you. It's all on Niels. If

913
00:48:42,453 --> 00:48:43,813
Speaker 2: you're Everyone knows.

914
00:48:43,613 --> 00:48:46,653
Speaker 14: That Neils Off I think you said. He always goes

915
00:48:46,693 --> 00:48:48,413
Speaker 14: into rehearsal. He says, so what do you want today?

916
00:48:48,573 --> 00:48:50,493
Speaker 14: Too fast or too slow? So that's the.

917
00:48:51,453 --> 00:48:54,733
Speaker 2: Works very good. Hey, hey, Neil, tell us a little

918
00:48:54,733 --> 00:48:56,893
Speaker 2: bit about your story. How did you end up in

919
00:48:56,933 --> 00:48:57,973
Speaker 2: brazila all places?

920
00:48:59,413 --> 00:49:03,413
Speaker 14: It's the other part of my career is I was

921
00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:05,893
Speaker 14: a professor of the Rock College of Music for fourteen years,

922
00:49:06,133 --> 00:49:09,253
Speaker 14: and teaching is something that I absolutely love and I

923
00:49:09,293 --> 00:49:13,293
Speaker 14: still do mostly master classes. And I did in two

924
00:49:13,333 --> 00:49:16,373
Speaker 14: thousand and five of two thousand and six a workshop

925
00:49:17,133 --> 00:49:18,813
Speaker 14: at the Row College of Music and that it was

926
00:49:18,813 --> 00:49:22,733
Speaker 14: a summer school, and there was a guy from Guyana

927
00:49:23,333 --> 00:49:26,413
Speaker 14: was one of the students, and he said to me, oh,

928
00:49:26,453 --> 00:49:28,733
Speaker 14: we was keeping touch and must come and conduct. We

929
00:49:28,773 --> 00:49:30,653
Speaker 14: have a little we have an orchestra there and you know,

930
00:49:31,053 --> 00:49:33,573
Speaker 14: And I didn't hear anything for like six or seven, yeah,

931
00:49:33,613 --> 00:49:35,773
Speaker 14: six years, and then out of the blue, I got

932
00:49:35,813 --> 00:49:38,133
Speaker 14: an email, would you like to come and conduct this

933
00:49:38,173 --> 00:49:41,213
Speaker 14: new uct We've just started a new professional orchestra. And

934
00:49:41,253 --> 00:49:45,573
Speaker 14: they gave me two concerts and it went very well.

935
00:49:45,573 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 14: It was a good connection between the orchestra and me

936
00:49:48,173 --> 00:49:51,093
Speaker 14: and the chief executive and the orchestra said, how would

937
00:49:51,093 --> 00:49:54,613
Speaker 14: you like to be our new principal conductor? I said, okay, yeah,

938
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Speaker 14: I would like that very much. So it was it

939
00:49:57,653 --> 00:50:01,973
Speaker 14: was one of those chants meetings that that led to this.

940
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you find it? How's the life? You know,

941
00:50:06,493 --> 00:50:09,053
Speaker 2: having having held other positions around the World War, what

942
00:50:09,093 --> 00:50:12,293
Speaker 2: what's the life like living in central Brazil.

943
00:50:13,293 --> 00:50:16,453
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's very hot and it's very dry, that's for sure,

944
00:50:16,453 --> 00:50:18,693
Speaker 14: which makes problems for the instruments of the musicians, so

945
00:50:18,693 --> 00:50:22,333
Speaker 14: they suffer a little bit with that. What is wonderful

946
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Speaker 14: about goy Ass go Ass is the sort of Texas

947
00:50:25,453 --> 00:50:28,893
Speaker 14: of Brazil. It's a big cattle state and Guyanea, I

948
00:50:28,933 --> 00:50:34,533
Speaker 14: guess you could call the Nashville of of of Brazil.

949
00:50:34,693 --> 00:50:37,013
Speaker 14: It's the home of brazili And it's something called certain Asia,

950
00:50:37,013 --> 00:50:40,133
Speaker 14: which is Brazilian country and western and it's huge here.

951
00:50:40,333 --> 00:50:42,973
Speaker 14: I mean, these these people are there were you know,

952
00:50:43,453 --> 00:50:46,373
Speaker 14: are absolutely huge. There millions and millions and millions of followers.

953
00:50:47,533 --> 00:50:50,853
Speaker 14: So go Ass was only really known for certain Asia.

954
00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:55,653
Speaker 14: So when I came, everything was possible because everything was new.

955
00:50:56,293 --> 00:50:58,413
Speaker 14: There was no in some power. You've got a history

956
00:50:58,413 --> 00:51:00,333
Speaker 14: of classical music and you can know, oh, you can't

957
00:51:00,333 --> 00:51:01,693
Speaker 14: play this compost. You have to play this, you have

958
00:51:01,733 --> 00:51:03,933
Speaker 14: to do this, and that the audience is very slightly

959
00:51:03,973 --> 00:51:08,733
Speaker 14: older and middle class, very middle class. And my job

960
00:51:08,773 --> 00:51:13,333
Speaker 14: in Brazil, all my concerts are free. So it's the democratization,

961
00:51:13,733 --> 00:51:17,853
Speaker 14: democratization of classical music. And this is wonderful to see

962
00:51:18,133 --> 00:51:22,213
Speaker 14: our public go from students to old people. The demographic

963
00:51:22,333 --> 00:51:25,573
Speaker 14: is very wide. And when I came people said to me,

964
00:51:25,973 --> 00:51:28,093
Speaker 14: you can't do concerts longer than sixty minutes. You can't

965
00:51:28,093 --> 00:51:30,093
Speaker 14: play this compost of people will be bored. You've got

966
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:31,693
Speaker 14: to play popular stuff. I said, no, I'm gonna I'm

967
00:51:31,733 --> 00:51:35,373
Speaker 14: gonna do this, show your public some respect, and we

968
00:51:35,413 --> 00:51:39,933
Speaker 14: did in July a Bruckner Symphony seventy five minutes. This

969
00:51:39,973 --> 00:51:42,653
Speaker 14: would have been unthinkable that ten years ago that the

970
00:51:42,693 --> 00:51:44,933
Speaker 14: public would have sat through. I mean, when I came on,

971
00:51:45,053 --> 00:51:46,973
Speaker 14: I took my bow and I thought when I turned

972
00:51:46,973 --> 00:51:48,253
Speaker 14: around at the end, there's going to be like three

973
00:51:48,293 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 14: people left in the theater, and it was still full,

974
00:51:51,453 --> 00:51:53,813
Speaker 14: you know, And that for me, that was really a

975
00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:57,813
Speaker 14: sense of classical music is not dying. You know. In

976
00:51:57,853 --> 00:52:01,293
Speaker 14: Europe we're very pessimistic about this, Oh, classical music's dying?

977
00:52:01,333 --> 00:52:02,413
Speaker 14: Is that not in Brazil?

978
00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:02,653
Speaker 5: It's not.

979
00:52:03,493 --> 00:52:05,733
Speaker 14: You know, every city has a little orchestect can be

980
00:52:05,733 --> 00:52:07,933
Speaker 14: a social it could be an amateur orchestra. It can

981
00:52:07,973 --> 00:52:11,293
Speaker 14: be an orchestra in the church. But there's an audience

982
00:52:11,293 --> 00:52:13,293
Speaker 14: there for pastor music. You've just got to find a

983
00:52:13,333 --> 00:52:16,173
Speaker 14: way to build it and to communicate it. So from

984
00:52:16,173 --> 00:52:18,613
Speaker 14: that point of view, I can play pieces that they

985
00:52:18,653 --> 00:52:21,853
Speaker 14: could never plan some power Oreo because the audiences are

986
00:52:21,853 --> 00:52:28,293
Speaker 14: more conservatives, are more traditional, so everything is possible here.

987
00:52:28,973 --> 00:52:31,093
Speaker 2: Well, look, Neil, we are so excited to have you

988
00:52:31,173 --> 00:52:34,213
Speaker 2: come to New Zealand. It does sound like an amazing show.

989
00:52:34,573 --> 00:52:38,733
Speaker 2: So look, have a wonderful little break over the Christmas

990
00:52:38,773 --> 00:52:41,173
Speaker 2: period and yeah, we look forward to seeing you very.

991
00:52:41,053 --> 00:52:44,253
Speaker 14: Soon in March. Great, that is very much.

992
00:52:44,413 --> 00:52:46,413
Speaker 2: That is Neil Thompson. We're going to have all the

993
00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:48,893
Speaker 2: details for Gene Kelly a Life and Music up on

994
00:52:48,893 --> 00:52:51,213
Speaker 2: the news talks He'd website. So, like I said, it's

995
00:52:51,213 --> 00:52:53,973
Speaker 2: playing for one, not only March fifteenth, twenty twenty five.

996
00:52:55,573 --> 00:52:58,453
Speaker 2: Even saying twenty twenty five still feels weird. It's going

997
00:52:58,493 --> 00:53:00,453
Speaker 2: to be the Auckland Town Hall and tickets for all

998
00:53:00,493 --> 00:53:04,733
Speaker 2: shows at the Auckland Arts Vessel are available at www.

999
00:53:04,893 --> 00:53:10,773
Speaker 2: Dot a A, dot co dot zed aaf Auckland Art Festival.

1000
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Speaker 2: I think you work that out. Twenty one past ten

1001
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Speaker 2: on Newstalks EDBT.

1002
00:53:15,773 --> 00:53:19,213
Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday mornings with Jack

1003
00:53:19,293 --> 00:53:23,253
Speaker 1: Tame and beepewit dot co dot inset for high quality supplements.

1004
00:53:23,333 --> 00:53:26,093
Speaker 2: News Talks EDB twenty four minutes past ten on News

1005
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Speaker 2: Talks EDB. You're with Jack Tayman. It is screen timetime

1006
00:53:29,253 --> 00:53:31,573
Speaker 2: on your Saturday morning. Very excited about this one. We've

1007
00:53:31,573 --> 00:53:34,373
Speaker 2: got three fantastic news shows. Chris Schultz is here with

1008
00:53:34,413 --> 00:53:36,933
Speaker 2: his recommendations in studio, and these are three shows that

1009
00:53:36,973 --> 00:53:39,453
Speaker 2: I reckon. I'm gonna love Chris, so I'm stoked about that.

1010
00:53:39,653 --> 00:53:42,733
Speaker 2: Let's begin with June Prophecy, which is streaming on neon.

1011
00:53:42,853 --> 00:53:44,013
Speaker 13: Do you want the bad news?

1012
00:53:44,093 --> 00:53:44,213
Speaker 14: Oh?

1013
00:53:44,253 --> 00:53:47,013
Speaker 2: Okay, well maybe two out of three, two out of three.

1014
00:53:47,013 --> 00:53:48,093
Speaker 2: I'll take two out of three.

1015
00:53:48,253 --> 00:53:51,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm like you massive June fan. Right Like when

1016
00:53:51,173 --> 00:53:53,813
Speaker 17: we came out of that horrible five month lockdown, the

1017
00:53:53,813 --> 00:53:55,653
Speaker 17: first thing I did was go to a cinema and

1018
00:53:55,693 --> 00:53:58,453
Speaker 17: see June one, and it blew my mind. Yeah, the

1019
00:53:58,853 --> 00:54:01,693
Speaker 17: best sci fi movie we've seen earlier this year, they

1020
00:54:01,733 --> 00:54:08,573
Speaker 17: repeated the track with Joan two, Bigger, Better, Noisier. So

1021
00:54:08,893 --> 00:54:12,813
Speaker 17: studio executives have obviously said, let's make a TV show,

1022
00:54:12,893 --> 00:54:14,973
Speaker 17: Let's make more of this, Let's give the fans more.

1023
00:54:15,013 --> 00:54:17,173
Speaker 17: Because these have been such a hit in the movie theaters.

1024
00:54:18,173 --> 00:54:21,973
Speaker 17: This has been troubled this show. Producers have dropped out

1025
00:54:22,093 --> 00:54:28,333
Speaker 17: an eevil and you dropped out. Yeah, showrunners changed. This

1026
00:54:28,413 --> 00:54:30,933
Speaker 17: is a prequel, right, So it's set ten thousand years

1027
00:54:30,973 --> 00:54:34,013
Speaker 17: before June, and this is a problem when you're trying

1028
00:54:34,053 --> 00:54:36,373
Speaker 17: to fill in backstory where the movies kind of hint

1029
00:54:36,893 --> 00:54:39,413
Speaker 17: at this stuff and it's just kind of there, right,

1030
00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:41,493
Speaker 17: And then if you're going back and trying to fill

1031
00:54:41,493 --> 00:54:43,773
Speaker 17: in those blanks, it's not really a story.

1032
00:54:44,293 --> 00:54:45,693
Speaker 13: It's kind of fan service.

1033
00:54:45,973 --> 00:54:46,213
Speaker 2: Right.

1034
00:54:46,413 --> 00:54:50,293
Speaker 17: So the first episode of this is just a brutal

1035
00:54:51,053 --> 00:54:56,133
Speaker 17: historical explanation of things that happened. The first twenty minutes

1036
00:54:56,213 --> 00:55:00,013
Speaker 17: is just voiceover really of like someone opening a June

1037
00:55:00,053 --> 00:55:04,453
Speaker 17: encyclopedia and reading to you what happened. It's honestly some

1038
00:55:04,493 --> 00:55:06,613
Speaker 17: of the hardest TV I've ever had to sit through.

1039
00:55:08,213 --> 00:55:11,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, which is a shame, right, because June is

1040
00:55:11,253 --> 00:55:12,853
Speaker 2: so cool. Yeah, of course, like.

1041
00:55:12,853 --> 00:55:16,053
Speaker 13: The and the toy, like the armor.

1042
00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:18,733
Speaker 2: And they and everything is this is amazing. Okay, but

1043
00:55:18,813 --> 00:55:21,293
Speaker 2: maybe if you're a Dune fan, just avoid this one

1044
00:55:21,333 --> 00:55:23,293
Speaker 2: and just pretend it never happened. Maybe that could ever

1045
00:55:23,693 --> 00:55:27,373
Speaker 2: the approach to June prophecy. Probably yeah, okay, well, I'm

1046
00:55:27,573 --> 00:55:29,653
Speaker 2: cautiously optimistic. The second pick is going to be a

1047
00:55:29,653 --> 00:55:33,333
Speaker 2: bit more promising. Say Nothing is an amazing book by

1048
00:55:33,333 --> 00:55:34,933
Speaker 2: Patrick rad and Keith. I think we've talked about it

1049
00:55:34,933 --> 00:55:36,933
Speaker 2: on the show before. It's honestly one of my favorite

1050
00:55:37,013 --> 00:55:40,493
Speaker 2: nonfiction reads ever, and it's just been adapted for a

1051
00:55:40,493 --> 00:55:41,733
Speaker 2: new show on Disney Plus.

1052
00:55:41,733 --> 00:55:45,053
Speaker 17: Well, Patrick rad and Keith does something kind of miraculous.

1053
00:55:45,093 --> 00:55:47,653
Speaker 17: He takes these huge topics and he turns them into

1054
00:55:47,733 --> 00:55:50,653
Speaker 17: page turners. He dies into these stories like the opioid

1055
00:55:50,653 --> 00:55:53,413
Speaker 17: crisis in America for years, and he talks to everyone,

1056
00:55:53,653 --> 00:55:56,933
Speaker 17: but then he turns them not into historical times, but

1057
00:55:57,013 --> 00:55:58,893
Speaker 17: into like almost that you're reading a movie.

1058
00:55:59,253 --> 00:56:03,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, he turns it almost like

1059
00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:06,973
Speaker 2: it's it's they call it like literally nonfiction, literally nonfiction.

1060
00:56:07,173 --> 00:56:07,413
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1061
00:56:07,493 --> 00:56:10,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so say Nothing is the story of the

1062
00:56:10,653 --> 00:56:13,413
Speaker 2: troubles it's a personal story from the troubles.

1063
00:56:13,093 --> 00:56:16,133
Speaker 17: Right, Yeah, So turning that story into a book is

1064
00:56:16,133 --> 00:56:18,453
Speaker 17: hard enough. To then turn it that book into a

1065
00:56:18,493 --> 00:56:21,493
Speaker 17: TV show is even more difficult. But they've done it

1066
00:56:21,533 --> 00:56:24,173
Speaker 17: like this has about unlike June that has about twenty

1067
00:56:24,213 --> 00:56:25,053
Speaker 17: seconds of history.

1068
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Speaker 13: At the start, they just plunk you in Northern Ireland.

1069
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Speaker 17: They say, here's where you're at, here's what's going on,

1070
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Speaker 17: and then they just rip into this story and it

1071
00:56:32,493 --> 00:56:37,093
Speaker 17: just fizzes, This crackles with energy and life and it

1072
00:56:37,173 --> 00:56:40,413
Speaker 17: just draws you in immediately. It's about two sisters at

1073
00:56:40,413 --> 00:56:42,613
Speaker 17: the center of this conflict who kind of grew up

1074
00:56:42,893 --> 00:56:46,533
Speaker 17: with you know, bank robberies and assassinations and bombings going

1075
00:56:46,573 --> 00:56:48,373
Speaker 17: on and just wanted to be part of it and

1076
00:56:48,453 --> 00:56:51,333
Speaker 17: had this real impact on what happened.

1077
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Speaker 13: So it flips all over the place.

1078
00:56:54,253 --> 00:56:57,013
Speaker 17: They tell a story from the vantage point of one

1079
00:56:57,013 --> 00:57:00,373
Speaker 17: of the sisters who's much older and being interviewed, suspecting

1080
00:57:00,413 --> 00:57:04,093
Speaker 17: that this story would never get told. Yeah, so that's

1081
00:57:04,133 --> 00:57:05,773
Speaker 17: in there, and then they flash back and show you

1082
00:57:05,813 --> 00:57:06,933
Speaker 17: what actually happens.

1083
00:57:07,093 --> 00:57:10,933
Speaker 13: Right, you know what makes us better? What the Irish accent?

1084
00:57:11,013 --> 00:57:12,373
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, it's so good.

1085
00:57:12,533 --> 00:57:16,013
Speaker 17: It just makes any TV show saying its eighteen percent

1086
00:57:16,133 --> 00:57:18,453
Speaker 17: and I know that's really basic. But it's the same

1087
00:57:18,453 --> 00:57:20,373
Speaker 17: with Bad Sisters. That's why I love that show.

1088
00:57:20,413 --> 00:57:21,533
Speaker 13: It just it just.

1089
00:57:21,493 --> 00:57:23,613
Speaker 17: Makes it saying I almost need they're really thick in

1090
00:57:23,653 --> 00:57:26,133
Speaker 17: the show. I almost had the subtitles on, but it's

1091
00:57:26,173 --> 00:57:26,573
Speaker 17: really good.

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Speaker 13: This is going to be like top five for me.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, great, So that's say nothing because the way,

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Speaker 2: just for people who don't maybe know the background of

1095
00:57:35,013 --> 00:57:37,293
Speaker 2: the book and obviously the TV show, the way it

1096
00:57:37,333 --> 00:57:39,533
Speaker 2: worked was I think it was Boston University. I could

1097
00:57:39,573 --> 00:57:43,013
Speaker 2: have the university wrong there. But after the troubles, they

1098
00:57:43,013 --> 00:57:45,413
Speaker 2: had researchers go over because of course New England and

1099
00:57:45,453 --> 00:57:47,693
Speaker 2: the US has a close connection, you know, the Irish

1100
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Speaker 2: in New England, they're going to readly close connection with Ireland,

1101
00:57:50,813 --> 00:57:53,733
Speaker 2: and so they had archivists go over to Northern Ireland

1102
00:57:53,773 --> 00:57:56,733
Speaker 2: and interview people who were intimately involved in the troubles

1103
00:57:56,733 --> 00:58:00,733
Speaker 2: conflict on the proviso that those interviews would never be

1104
00:58:00,773 --> 00:58:02,693
Speaker 2: publicly released. So they just said, we just want this

1105
00:58:02,733 --> 00:58:04,693
Speaker 2: for the historical record. It's not going to be released

1106
00:58:04,933 --> 00:58:08,453
Speaker 2: for decade until well after your death, you know, to

1107
00:58:08,493 --> 00:58:10,293
Speaker 2: your Family's not going to affected all that kind of thing.

1108
00:58:10,533 --> 00:58:12,693
Speaker 2: But then I think there have been some legal challenges

1109
00:58:12,733 --> 00:58:17,373
Speaker 2: around those actual archives. So once the kind of US

1110
00:58:17,453 --> 00:58:21,133
Speaker 2: authorities found out that there were potentially potentially people who

1111
00:58:21,133 --> 00:58:23,493
Speaker 2: had been involved with murders during the troubles who had

1112
00:58:23,493 --> 00:58:25,453
Speaker 2: given up interviews about that, then all of a sudden

1113
00:58:25,453 --> 00:58:26,933
Speaker 2: they were like, hang on, we want to listen to

1114
00:58:26,933 --> 00:58:30,373
Speaker 2: those recordings as well. From journalistically, it was very complex,

1115
00:58:30,493 --> 00:58:31,373
Speaker 2: and somewhere along.

1116
00:58:31,133 --> 00:58:34,173
Speaker 17: The way Patrick rad and Keefs got his hand made

1117
00:58:34,213 --> 00:58:36,173
Speaker 17: this book and that's how we ended up with the

1118
00:58:36,373 --> 00:58:37,373
Speaker 17: amazing TV show.

1119
00:58:37,573 --> 00:58:39,853
Speaker 2: Okay, this sounds sounds really good, so say nothing is

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Speaker 2: on Disney Plus. Also on Disney Plus very much looking

1121
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Speaker 2: forward to this Endurance.

1122
00:58:44,253 --> 00:58:44,613
Speaker 13: Knew it.

1123
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Speaker 17: I picked this one for you. Yeah, this is incredible.

1124
00:58:46,973 --> 00:58:51,853
Speaker 17: This is about the nineteen fourteen ship, the Endurance inn

1125
00:58:51,853 --> 00:58:54,053
Speaker 17: A Shackleton left Europe looking for the South Pole. He

1126
00:58:54,133 --> 00:58:56,253
Speaker 17: wanted to be famous for finding the South Pole. You've

1127
00:58:56,253 --> 00:58:58,973
Speaker 17: got a crew of twenty four people. I don't think

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00:58:58,973 --> 00:59:01,173
Speaker 17: it's any spoiler to say the boat got stuck in

1129
00:59:01,293 --> 00:59:05,773
Speaker 17: ice and eventually sank, and they went on this endurance,

1130
00:59:05,813 --> 00:59:12,933
Speaker 17: this incredible attempt at survival. It went for years, So

1131
00:59:13,013 --> 00:59:15,853
Speaker 17: this documentary is about that. The incredible thing is they

1132
00:59:15,853 --> 00:59:19,613
Speaker 17: had a camera on the boat. They've got footage of

1133
00:59:19,653 --> 00:59:23,533
Speaker 17: the boat sinking. It's all colorized and restored. Them living

1134
00:59:23,573 --> 00:59:27,253
Speaker 17: on the ice. It's fascinating. But there's that, and then

1135
00:59:27,613 --> 00:59:29,813
Speaker 17: parallel to that is the story of them looking for

1136
00:59:29,853 --> 00:59:32,693
Speaker 17: the shipwreck. It's one of the last shipwrecks, yeah, to

1137
00:59:32,693 --> 00:59:37,413
Speaker 17: be found. So on twenty twenty one, team of explorers

1138
00:59:37,573 --> 00:59:40,693
Speaker 17: during COVID went down there a great place to be

1139
00:59:40,773 --> 00:59:42,853
Speaker 17: probably during that time, on a boat in the middle

1140
00:59:42,893 --> 00:59:45,253
Speaker 17: of nowhere. They kind of go through the same thing.

1141
00:59:45,293 --> 00:59:48,133
Speaker 17: They get stuck in ice. They've got a submersible, they're

1142
00:59:48,173 --> 00:59:52,213
Speaker 17: scanning the ocean floor. They're running up against these deadlines, weather,

1143
00:59:52,453 --> 00:59:56,093
Speaker 17: all that kind of stuff. And again I think we

1144
00:59:56,133 --> 00:59:58,773
Speaker 17: all remember the headlines from that time. They don't have

1145
00:59:58,813 --> 01:00:01,893
Speaker 17: a documentary if they don't find this thing. So the

1146
01:00:01,973 --> 01:00:06,813
Speaker 17: reveal in this movie is just extraordinary. The footage is readable,

1147
01:00:07,013 --> 01:00:11,453
Speaker 17: but juxtaposed with the footage of these survivors at the

1148
01:00:11,453 --> 01:00:13,533
Speaker 17: same time just kind of it brings these two stories

1149
01:00:13,533 --> 01:00:15,373
Speaker 17: together to this kind of climax.

1150
01:00:15,413 --> 01:00:16,853
Speaker 13: It's I don't know, it's it's a.

1151
01:00:16,813 --> 01:00:19,373
Speaker 17: Nerdy film, you know, it's a bit of a nerdy film,

1152
01:00:19,413 --> 01:00:20,693
Speaker 17: but but I feel.

1153
01:00:20,413 --> 01:00:23,933
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, everyone's everyone who knows the story as

1154
01:00:23,933 --> 01:00:26,453
Speaker 2: a Shackleton man, right, I mean, I just it's such

1155
01:00:26,533 --> 01:00:31,453
Speaker 2: a ridiculously, such a ridiculous and epic story of survival,

1156
01:00:31,493 --> 01:00:32,773
Speaker 2: the links, the leadership.

1157
01:00:33,013 --> 01:00:37,293
Speaker 17: Yeah, just like rowing these boats across icy landscapes with

1158
01:00:37,373 --> 01:00:41,373
Speaker 17: no food and like finding these deserted islands and then

1159
01:00:41,413 --> 01:00:44,293
Speaker 17: setting off again because no one was there. Like it's yeah,

1160
01:00:44,293 --> 01:00:46,333
Speaker 17: it's a it's a crazy story. And the fact there's

1161
01:00:46,333 --> 01:00:48,293
Speaker 17: footage of so much of it and they kept.

1162
01:00:48,093 --> 01:00:48,733
Speaker 13: It during all that.

1163
01:00:48,973 --> 01:00:53,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind line, is there much on Frank Worsley, you know,

1164
01:00:53,453 --> 01:00:56,133
Speaker 2: who's the Kiwi guy who was one of one of

1165
01:00:56,173 --> 01:00:59,173
Speaker 2: Shackleton's central guys there they paid a fair but a

1166
01:00:59,293 --> 01:01:00,693
Speaker 2: role with the photographs and stuff as well.

1167
01:01:00,693 --> 01:01:01,693
Speaker 13: I think he gets a mention.

1168
01:01:01,933 --> 01:01:04,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, maybe he was. He was one of the

1169
01:01:04,253 --> 01:01:09,853
Speaker 2: he's from one of the guys on that on that, yeah,

1170
01:01:10,213 --> 01:01:13,573
Speaker 2: on the epic journey. So yeah, very good. That sounds

1171
01:01:13,573 --> 01:01:16,373
Speaker 2: amazing too. So that's on Disney Plus. That's Endurance Say

1172
01:01:16,453 --> 01:01:19,613
Speaker 2: Nothing is also on Disney Plus and Dune Prophecy, I

1173
01:01:19,653 --> 01:01:23,053
Speaker 2: mean Competer the other two. I'm gonna be honest, Chris,

1174
01:01:23,253 --> 01:01:25,533
Speaker 2: A bit of a no brainer this week, but that's

1175
01:01:25,573 --> 01:01:28,573
Speaker 2: on Neon. So maybe for the absolute most enthusiastic King

1176
01:01:28,733 --> 01:01:30,933
Speaker 2: June fans, thank you so much, very good to see

1177
01:01:30,973 --> 01:01:33,493
Speaker 2: your physical Kay Shults right now. It is twenty eight

1178
01:01:33,493 --> 01:01:36,013
Speaker 2: minutes to eleven. You Rejectaime on news Talks, he'd be.

1179
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:41,373
Speaker 6: Getting your weekends started.

1180
01:01:41,573 --> 01:01:45,333
Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack team on news Talks, it'd.

1181
01:01:45,133 --> 01:01:48,293
Speaker 12: Be I've been taking I love wind.

1182
01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:51,413
Speaker 6: You will go crazy and you'll think on my and ambitious.

1183
01:01:51,533 --> 01:01:55,253
Speaker 18: Baby, it's nothing you'll take me places that.

1184
01:01:55,413 --> 01:01:59,013
Speaker 10: There on my reputation, Nebulema decisions.

1185
01:01:59,373 --> 01:02:00,933
Speaker 12: Baby, there's nothing.

1186
01:02:03,093 --> 01:02:03,733
Speaker 9: What a gem?

1187
01:02:04,133 --> 01:02:09,453
Speaker 2: What a gem? This is short, there's nothing holding me back.

1188
01:02:10,453 --> 01:02:13,133
Speaker 2: I got it. Yeah, I won't do that again. The

1189
01:02:13,213 --> 01:02:16,533
Speaker 2: songs just had a cool two billion streams on Spotify alone,

1190
01:02:16,893 --> 01:02:20,653
Speaker 2: two thousand million streams. Yeah. At the age of fifteen,

1191
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:23,733
Speaker 2: Shawn mendes is six second covers of songs on the

1192
01:02:23,773 --> 01:02:26,973
Speaker 2: now defunct video platform Vine absolutely took off. He got signed.

1193
01:02:27,053 --> 01:02:28,893
Speaker 2: He was basically on the road non stop for the

1194
01:02:28,893 --> 01:02:32,253
Speaker 2: next six or seven years, and then about five years

1195
01:02:32,253 --> 01:02:35,173
Speaker 2: ago he had a couple of grammyknoms. I sold out

1196
01:02:35,213 --> 01:02:37,173
Speaker 2: eighty d eight world tour ahead of him. He was

1197
01:02:37,173 --> 01:02:40,573
Speaker 2: the face of Calvin Klein and at the very pinnacle,

1198
01:02:40,613 --> 01:02:44,933
Speaker 2: the very apex, the toemuter of his career, Sean pulled

1199
01:02:44,933 --> 01:02:48,333
Speaker 2: the plug. Yeah, he said he just needed a break.

1200
01:02:48,733 --> 01:02:50,973
Speaker 2: He'd reached a bit of a mental health breaking point.

1201
01:02:51,093 --> 01:02:54,093
Speaker 2: He canceled the tour. He was only twenty two years old,

1202
01:02:54,093 --> 01:02:56,133
Speaker 2: and he just said at that time he couldn't handle it.

1203
01:02:56,333 --> 01:02:59,933
Speaker 2: He just couldn't handle it, which is honestly fair enough. Anyway,

1204
01:03:00,013 --> 01:03:02,413
Speaker 2: it's been about four years since we heard any new

1205
01:03:02,493 --> 01:03:05,613
Speaker 2: music from Shawn Mendes, and now he has returned. He's

1206
01:03:05,653 --> 01:03:08,253
Speaker 2: got a brand new album and where he used to

1207
01:03:08,253 --> 01:03:12,173
Speaker 2: sing about love Sewan has turned into a more sort

1208
01:03:12,213 --> 01:03:16,293
Speaker 2: of introspective space. So the album's called Sean, and we're

1209
01:03:16,333 --> 01:03:18,853
Speaker 2: going to play you some before midday today as well

1210
01:03:18,893 --> 01:03:21,053
Speaker 2: as that. After eleven o'clock there is a new Jack

1211
01:03:21,093 --> 01:03:23,253
Speaker 2: Reach Your book out. It's one of these ones where

1212
01:03:23,413 --> 01:03:26,413
Speaker 2: Lee and his brother Andrew Child have both got together

1213
01:03:26,973 --> 01:03:28,773
Speaker 2: to Pennett. So we're going to tell you about In

1214
01:03:28,853 --> 01:03:31,253
Speaker 2: Too Deep, which is the new Jack Reacher novel before

1215
01:03:31,253 --> 01:03:33,013
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock. We're in the garden right now. It is

1216
01:03:33,013 --> 01:03:35,053
Speaker 2: twenty three minutes to eleven. This is news dogs.

1217
01:03:35,053 --> 01:03:40,173
Speaker 6: They'd be putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The

1218
01:03:40,373 --> 01:03:41,813
Speaker 6: mic asking breakfast, I've.

1219
01:03:41,693 --> 01:03:43,813
Speaker 18: Got a question mark around the new proposed medical school

1220
01:03:43,853 --> 01:03:46,253
Speaker 18: in Wycatto. It's National Party policy, of course, but Act

1221
01:03:46,253 --> 01:03:48,133
Speaker 18: to wonder about the maths and whether it all adds up.

1222
01:03:48,133 --> 01:03:49,573
Speaker 18: The ACT leader David Seymore's with us.

1223
01:03:49,653 --> 01:03:52,253
Speaker 19: It's absolutely an argument around how you get more doctors,

1224
01:03:52,293 --> 01:03:54,853
Speaker 19: for example, when it makes sense to expand the two

1225
01:03:54,973 --> 01:03:57,973
Speaker 19: very good medical schools we've got before we eat the

1226
01:03:58,013 --> 01:03:59,813
Speaker 19: fixed costs on creating.

1227
01:03:59,453 --> 01:03:59,933
Speaker 8: A new one.

1228
01:03:59,973 --> 01:04:01,693
Speaker 18: This is a fight, Tom, Have you been recruited by

1229
01:04:01,693 --> 01:04:03,413
Speaker 18: a tiger in Auckland because they don't like the fight

1230
01:04:03,533 --> 01:04:03,933
Speaker 18: and broken?

1231
01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:06,053
Speaker 19: You know, I look at the later University of Auckland's

1232
01:04:06,053 --> 01:04:08,413
Speaker 19: for he to earlier in my degree with a forty

1233
01:04:08,453 --> 01:04:08,893
Speaker 19: second in.

1234
01:04:08,853 --> 01:04:09,693
Speaker 5: The world when I was there.

1235
01:04:09,693 --> 01:04:12,013
Speaker 19: Now we're one hundred and fifty because of the unending

1236
01:04:12,133 --> 01:04:15,133
Speaker 19: crap I insisted on teaching instead of actual science and

1237
01:04:15,213 --> 01:04:18,053
Speaker 19: academia that I was prejudiced it'd be against author.

1238
01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:21,093
Speaker 18: Back Monday from six am, The Mike asking Breakfast with

1239
01:04:21,173 --> 01:04:23,053
Speaker 18: the rain drove of the last news talk.

1240
01:04:22,933 --> 01:04:25,373
Speaker 2: ZB twenty one to eleven, non news talks, ZEDB. There's

1241
01:04:25,373 --> 01:04:28,173
Speaker 2: this thing with modern communication that really irritates me. It's

1242
01:04:28,173 --> 01:04:31,173
Speaker 2: when people send me voice memos. It's just so annoying.

1243
01:04:31,213 --> 01:04:33,013
Speaker 2: You can do it via text these days, or we

1244
01:04:33,053 --> 01:04:35,253
Speaker 2: can do it on WhatsApp. So instead of typing out

1245
01:04:35,293 --> 01:04:37,893
Speaker 2: a message, you just hold the microphone and then end

1246
01:04:37,973 --> 01:04:40,133
Speaker 2: up talking inevitably for about three minutes longer than you

1247
01:04:40,173 --> 01:04:42,173
Speaker 2: absolutely needed to to send a message to someone. I

1248
01:04:42,213 --> 01:04:44,973
Speaker 2: don't for whatever is it really really grinds my gears.

1249
01:04:45,333 --> 01:04:46,853
Speaker 2: And of course I made the mistake of telling my

1250
01:04:46,893 --> 01:04:50,773
Speaker 2: friends this, and so they send me nothing but voice memos. Anyway,

1251
01:04:51,373 --> 01:04:54,413
Speaker 2: WhatsApp is coming out with a new service whereby it'll

1252
01:04:54,453 --> 01:04:58,733
Speaker 2: transcribe those incredibly annoying voice notes and our Textburt Paul

1253
01:04:58,733 --> 01:05:01,773
Speaker 2: Stine houses here with all the details. Oh my goodness, Paul,

1254
01:05:01,773 --> 01:05:05,013
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Aren't they just the worst?

1255
01:05:05,133 --> 01:05:08,253
Speaker 9: Read your message? Don't want to hear your podcast, you

1256
01:05:08,333 --> 01:05:11,173
Speaker 9: just want to read it. Yeah, but this is great.

1257
01:05:11,173 --> 01:05:13,013
Speaker 9: This is kind of like one of these good things

1258
01:05:13,013 --> 01:05:15,413
Speaker 9: about AI. Right, So it's coming to Android, it's coming

1259
01:05:15,453 --> 01:05:17,853
Speaker 9: to iOS in the coming weeks, according to WhatsApp.

1260
01:05:18,893 --> 01:05:19,453
Speaker 14: I like it.

1261
01:05:19,493 --> 01:05:22,053
Speaker 9: Because it is actually faster to.

1262
01:05:22,013 --> 01:05:27,093
Speaker 2: Talk, but it's quick to read. Yes, oh ah, so

1263
01:05:27,173 --> 01:05:28,493
Speaker 2: obvious and I've never thought about that.

1264
01:05:28,613 --> 01:05:31,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, but that's why people like it, right, That's why

1265
01:05:31,293 --> 01:05:34,053
Speaker 9: people send them because it's great for them. Pain in

1266
01:05:34,093 --> 01:05:36,453
Speaker 9: that if you want to be the recipient. So yes,

1267
01:05:36,573 --> 01:05:39,253
Speaker 9: this is actually the best of both worlds. Now, it's

1268
01:05:39,293 --> 01:05:41,053
Speaker 9: not going to be done by the cloud though, which

1269
01:05:41,093 --> 01:05:43,453
Speaker 9: is probably a good thing for those privacy conscious folks.

1270
01:05:43,453 --> 01:05:46,333
Speaker 9: It's going to be done on the device, so WhatsApp

1271
01:05:46,333 --> 01:05:49,933
Speaker 9: doesn't actually know the contents of what that person is saying.

1272
01:05:50,213 --> 01:05:51,813
Speaker 9: But yeah, coming in the next couple of weeks, keep

1273
01:05:51,813 --> 01:05:52,413
Speaker 9: an eye out.

1274
01:05:52,333 --> 01:05:55,853
Speaker 2: Very good. Hey, bitcoin is just going to the moon

1275
01:05:55,933 --> 01:05:57,813
Speaker 2: at the moment, as they say, or to the moon

1276
01:05:57,933 --> 01:06:01,253
Speaker 2: the stars. Yeah, one hundred grand so one book coins

1277
01:06:01,813 --> 01:06:03,733
Speaker 2: very quickly approaching one hundred thousand years dollars.

1278
01:06:04,173 --> 01:06:04,893
Speaker 13: Yeah, wild.

1279
01:06:04,973 --> 01:06:06,933
Speaker 9: I just took a look today all and back a

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Speaker 9: little bit. But it did get shy of about one

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Speaker 9: hundred and fifty dollars of hitting the one hundred thousand

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Speaker 9: dollar mark this time in twenty twenty two, but coin

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Speaker 9: was fifteen thousand.

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Speaker 6: Dollars, so huge rise.

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Speaker 9: We've seen it again, one hundred and thirty percent so

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Speaker 9: far this year, just so forty percent, not just forty percent,

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Speaker 9: forty percent just since the presidential election, which is crazy.

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Speaker 9: And that's why they think that it will continue to

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Speaker 9: go because Donald Trump is considered to be crypto friendly,

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Speaker 9: you see, and so the bulls have got their money

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Speaker 9: on this going sky high.

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Speaker 12: So keeping an.

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Speaker 2: Eye, okay, And Amazon is investing four billion dollars in

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Speaker 2: chat GPT's rival.

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Speaker 9: Why, Yeah, I have a feeling you might be thinking,

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Speaker 9: haven't we already talked about this at some point this year?

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Speaker 9: Because yea, we have. This is the second, yes, their

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Speaker 9: second four billion dollar investment that Amazon's made in Anthropics,

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Speaker 9: So they've just thrown a casual eight billion dollars at

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Speaker 9: the company this year. Insane interesting though, Jack. They've made

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Speaker 9: it a condition of the deal that Anthropic must use AWS,

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Speaker 9: their cloud computing service, as their primary cloud provider, and

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Speaker 9: they've also said that they will use Amazon's AI chips

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Speaker 9: to develop some of their most advanced models. So it's

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Speaker 9: a little bit of a we're going to give you cash,

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01:07:25,853 --> 01:07:28,173
Speaker 9: which it sounds like they need, but there are some

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Speaker 9: conditions attached, which I guess it's smart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of chat gpt. GPT is rumored to

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Speaker 2: have a web browser in the works.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, this is some reporting coming from a website called

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Speaker 9: The Information, and I find it fascinating because when we

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Speaker 9: think of Google, we think of search, and we also

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Speaker 9: think of Chrome, and the two are so synonymous that

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Speaker 9: the doj over here wants to potentially get the courts

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Speaker 9: to break up Google and force it to sell its

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Speaker 9: Chrome web browser. So it's really fascinating that chat gpt

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Speaker 9: is now trying to position itself not just as the

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Speaker 9: new search engine by talking AI, but now wanting to

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Speaker 9: actually think of themselves as a web.

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Speaker 13: Browser as well.

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Speaker 9: So they are coming hot on the heels of Google's

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Speaker 9: massive monopoly they have over on the market. But it's

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Speaker 9: interesting here that they say that it may also include

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Speaker 9: some partnerships and integrations with e commerce websites and apps,

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Speaker 9: which I found interesting because obviously they haven't found a

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Speaker 9: great way to monetize chet GPT yet.

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Speaker 13: Maybe these will be.

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Speaker 9: Sort of like super premium sponsored results. So you jump

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Speaker 9: on there and you're like trying to search he chet gpt,

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Speaker 9: what's the best vacuum cleaner? And maybe it'll pop off

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Speaker 9: to Walmart or Amazon or the spy or whoever it is,

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Speaker 9: and maybe there's some sort of tie in there. It

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Speaker 9: only had a small mention of it, but I'm kind

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Speaker 9: of fascinated to see how that plays out too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it feels like this is the kind of

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Speaker 2: technology that could potentially disrupt some of those long term

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Speaker 2: big digital players, right, so for some for a company

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Speaker 2: like Google, which you know is still an absolute giant

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Speaker 2: in the digital space, this is the sort of tech

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Speaker 2: that could all of a sudden change the game very quickly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and look, this.

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Speaker 9: CEEO knows that too. He's even made some comments about

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Speaker 9: the fact that these startups are going to eat their lunch.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 9: Google is kind of like, notoriously the fun office. Right,

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Speaker 9: you go, you play the ping pong, you do some work,

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01:09:22,733 --> 01:09:25,933
Speaker 9: you have lunch. And he's kind of saying that that's actually, now,

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Speaker 9: what was a pro of Google has almost become a

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Speaker 9: con because he's like, the startups are hungry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't stop.

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Speaker 8: That, she said.

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01:09:36,453 --> 01:09:39,093
Speaker 9: He's actually said that that's a concern for their company.

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Speaker 14: Back to the office people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks change, Hey, thanks Paul, appreciate it. That's our textbook.

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Speaker 2: Paul Steinhouse, thanks for your feedback. As well. Jack. Just

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Speaker 2: so you know, Lego are about to release the endurance

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Speaker 2: as in the ship. It looks absolutely fantastic, says Shane.

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01:09:52,813 --> 01:09:55,093
Speaker 2: Didn't know that. I didn't know that, Shane. Oh so

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Speaker 2: presumably it's the endurance before the endurance went down. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: look there's a Lego for everything these days, isn't there?

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Speaker 2: But that does sound like a bit of me.

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Speaker 1: Quarter to eleven, a little bit of to kick off

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Speaker 2: Thirteen two eleven non used talk z'b. Bob Campbell, our

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Speaker 2: Master of Wine, has chosen his best buye for this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's a two twenty twenty four rose from Nelson for

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Speaker 2: eighteen ninety nine yield of Bob. Why did you choose this.

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Speaker 3: Cure, Jack?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Well, I thought it looked very Christmas y. It's got

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Speaker 5: this lovely pink, white and gold label. I'm not usually

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Speaker 5: influenced by labels, but I was in this case, and

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Speaker 5: it sort of seemed to capture the essence of Christmas.

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Speaker 5: And it tastes as good as it looks. That's important,

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Speaker 5: of course, and I think the wine is a real

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Speaker 5: crowd pleaser. Who could possibly not like this wine? It's

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Speaker 5: the sort of thing you should have a bottle of

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Speaker 5: and in the fridge for unexpected guests, because anybody will

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Speaker 5: enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Nice also good vintage, right.

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Speaker 5: It was indeed it was the best best for quite

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Speaker 5: a while, and so a chance to get up close

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Speaker 5: and personal with the twenty twenty four nice.

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Speaker 2: So what does it taste like?

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Speaker 5: Pale? It's a pale, pink colored rose with sort of

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Speaker 5: restrained gaber pomegranate, wildflowers and raspberry flavors. It's sort of

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Speaker 5: quite a pristine wine with appealing sort of purity and

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Speaker 5: a seamless texture. It's got a hint of sweetness balanced

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Speaker 5: by gentle fruity acidity to give a pleasantly dry finish.

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Speaker 5: So it's not sweet by any means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you reckon it's a pretty good wine at

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Speaker 2: a great price, so can you pick it up?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's I found it at the Good Wine Company

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Speaker 5: in Orckland for fifteen ninety nine, which is a very

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Speaker 5: sharp price. First Glass Wines and Spirits and Auckland or

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Speaker 5: sixteen ninety nine. That's a good price too in black

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Speaker 5: market dot co dot m Z.

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Speaker 2: Nice. What would you mention with, Bob.

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Speaker 5: Match? It's going to go perfectly with the snapper that

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Speaker 5: I plan to catch in the long.

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Speaker 8: Year, don't we all?

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Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, yeah, fresh seafood be really good about a

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01:12:18,453 --> 01:12:22,053
Speaker 2: snapper and giving it to Rose. Drink it up or

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Speaker 2: keep it for a bit? Do you think?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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01:12:24,933 --> 01:12:27,853
Speaker 5: Drink drink it up? No, no panic, but it's not

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Speaker 5: going to get any better. Just relax and enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Very nice. Okay, thanks Bob. So that is a TOHU

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four Rose from Nelson for eighteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Christmas given, oh my goodness for a month

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01:12:42,053 --> 01:12:47,173
Speaker 2: and two days away. After eleven o'clock this morning, we

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01:12:47,213 --> 01:12:51,533
Speaker 2: could catch up with our sustainability expert. She is always

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Speaker 2: trying to be really thoughtful when it comes to gift giving,

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01:12:54,413 --> 01:12:56,573
Speaker 2: and she's got some great tips for us this year.

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Speaker 2: She's not being a total grint. She wants to make

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Speaker 2: it really clear she does have tips on giving Christmas gifts,

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Speaker 2: and not all of them are stuff that you've made yourself.

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Speaker 2: It's not all just you know, Christmas cards made with

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01:13:06,613 --> 01:13:08,853
Speaker 2: dry macaroni and that kind that kind of thing. No,

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01:13:08,973 --> 01:13:11,333
Speaker 2: she's actually got some stuff that you could buy and

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01:13:11,373 --> 01:13:14,653
Speaker 2: give that she thinks is really thoughtful, plus some alternative

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01:13:14,733 --> 01:13:17,573
Speaker 2: options if you don't necessarily want to give stuff, but

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01:13:17,653 --> 01:13:19,293
Speaker 2: you want to give the loved ones in your life

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01:13:19,413 --> 01:13:21,733
Speaker 2: an experience. So she's going to be with us after

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01:13:21,773 --> 01:13:24,413
Speaker 2: eleven with those tips. Right now it is ten to eleven.

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01:13:24,453 --> 01:13:27,013
Speaker 2: We're in the garden next with.

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Speaker 1: Steal Shop Don't Beless, their biggest spring sale ever.

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01:13:30,413 --> 01:13:32,453
Speaker 2: Rude climb past our men in the garden. He's with

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Speaker 2: us this morning.

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01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:37,773
Speaker 12: Hey road, Hello Jack, Just a message from Julie. Do

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01:13:37,853 --> 01:13:40,053
Speaker 12: you realize we are the best babysitters in the world.

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01:13:40,173 --> 01:13:43,413
Speaker 2: Oh please, We're going to take all volunteers we can get.

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01:13:45,293 --> 01:13:47,133
Speaker 2: We're you going to take all volunteers we can get.

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01:13:47,133 --> 01:13:49,133
Speaker 2: You to be very careful making those kind of commitments

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01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:51,853
Speaker 2: early on. I think we need to at the very

1439
01:13:51,893 --> 01:13:53,453
Speaker 2: least get a bit of a steer on the sleeping

1440
01:13:53,493 --> 01:13:54,533
Speaker 2: patterns and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I know, I love babies though, it's absolutely true.

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01:13:58,133 --> 01:14:00,053
Speaker 12: But there you are. Hey, great, great.

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01:13:59,853 --> 01:14:02,013
Speaker 2: News, Thank you, No, thank you?

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01:14:02,133 --> 01:14:04,053
Speaker 12: Yeah, talk about it later.

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01:14:04,253 --> 01:14:07,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll we're talking about some other babies this morning.

1446
01:14:07,213 --> 01:14:09,573
Speaker 2: Some native bees that you've been noticing around your neck

1447
01:14:09,573 --> 01:14:10,333
Speaker 2: of the woods.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I've been looking for data bees here in the

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01:14:12,733 --> 01:14:15,613
Speaker 12: Carswell Quarry. But that's not I found a few. That's

1450
01:14:15,613 --> 01:14:18,173
Speaker 12: not the point. But I must tell you that there

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01:14:18,213 --> 01:14:20,533
Speaker 12: was something else that I did find there. And they

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01:14:20,533 --> 01:14:25,453
Speaker 12: were significantly little conically shaped holes right with the diameter

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01:14:25,533 --> 01:14:28,173
Speaker 12: of about thirty millimeters or something like that, situated in

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01:14:28,293 --> 01:14:31,253
Speaker 12: dry bits of soil. And I looked at it and

1455
01:14:31,293 --> 01:14:33,333
Speaker 12: I thought, I've seen that. Well, I know what this is.

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01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:36,373
Speaker 12: And the sow started looking it up, and there we are.

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01:14:36,773 --> 01:14:37,813
Speaker 12: I remember what it is.

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01:14:38,933 --> 01:14:39,973
Speaker 14: They are what they call.

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01:14:40,053 --> 01:14:43,813
Speaker 2: Ant lions and lions.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, ant lines. Isn't it a lovely name? Ant lines.

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Speaker 2: It's just like an ant like and then a lion

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01:14:49,013 --> 01:14:50,013
Speaker 2: like the King of the jungle.

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Speaker 12: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 12: So these are these are actually neuroptera or if you like,

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Speaker 12: you know, neuropteran group of insects that basically have their

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Speaker 12: young in pits that they make their own pits, which

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Speaker 12: are quite steep and deep, and in the bottom in

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Speaker 12: the face of that particular pit lives the baby off

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Speaker 12: that particular end lion and it sits there basically doing

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Speaker 12: nothing until an end or something else walks nearby or

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Speaker 12: slips into the pit which is a trap. And then

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Speaker 12: and then what happens is amazing. The moment the end

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Speaker 12: lying feels the sand coming down in the pit, it

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Speaker 12: starts throwing sand back up at this stupid end that

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Speaker 12: fell into its pit as if it tries to escape,

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Speaker 12: and so it throwscends up by making these end lions,

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Speaker 12: it to sort to make those ants lose their balance

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Speaker 12: and they fall down and it's becoming prey.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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01:15:50,053 --> 01:15:53,133
Speaker 2: So basically the ant falls in a hole, it tries

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01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:55,613
Speaker 2: to climb out, and this thing just throws dirt at it.

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01:15:55,693 --> 01:15:58,813
Speaker 2: So falling down an amazing.

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Speaker 12: It is the wonderful and most wonderfullest way.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no it's not.

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Speaker 12: But there's other things they eats. Well, they eat caterpillars.

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Speaker 12: They eat also little beetles and so on. But that's amazing.

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Speaker 12: Now I put a photo on the website and you

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01:16:14,853 --> 01:16:17,613
Speaker 12: can see what that endline baby looks like with two

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01:16:18,013 --> 01:16:23,333
Speaker 12: enormous jaws with serrations. And boy they are quick, these guys,

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Speaker 12: they are fabulous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So they do this during the day, but mostly at night.

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Speaker 12: But during the day is what I do because if

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Speaker 12: I find a little hole like that, I throw little

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Speaker 12: bits of scent down into the bottom of the end

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Speaker 12: Line's trap, and the end Line comes out, looks at

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Speaker 12: me and starts throwing sind at me. And I thought,

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Speaker 12: it's just a nice thing you can do with your

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Speaker 12: new child one day.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. Yeah, okay, yeah, thank you so much. That. Yeah,

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01:16:49,173 --> 01:16:49,733
Speaker 2: there's beautiful.

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Speaker 14: What.

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Speaker 2: We're going to make sure they put those photos up

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Speaker 2: on the on the website as well. Do you know,

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01:16:53,413 --> 01:16:55,213
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that. I don't think I've ever heard

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01:16:55,213 --> 01:16:56,493
Speaker 2: of an endline until today.

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Speaker 12: No, but I think it's so wonderful for that creature,

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01:17:00,213 --> 01:17:03,813
Speaker 12: because it's a clever little bum that actually throws sense.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's pray, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very good. Hey, thank you sir. All right,

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01:17:08,533 --> 01:17:10,253
Speaker 2: we'll make sure those photos are online, and thank you

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01:17:10,333 --> 01:17:11,973
Speaker 2: very much for the generous sofare. I don't think you

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01:17:12,013 --> 01:17:13,853
Speaker 2: know you've wrote yourself into just yet. But that's not

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01:17:13,893 --> 01:17:18,093
Speaker 2: a problem. That's not my problem necessarily, that's maybe Rudin Julie's.

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01:17:19,253 --> 01:17:21,733
Speaker 2: All of those photos will be on the news talksb website.

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01:17:21,733 --> 01:17:23,813
Speaker 2: It's worth a look. Actually, they're really yeah, quite crazy

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01:17:23,813 --> 01:17:27,013
Speaker 2: looking little insects, newstalks hedb dot co dot inded Ford

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01:17:27,053 --> 01:17:29,253
Speaker 2: slash Jack is the place to go, of course, if

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Speaker 2: you want anything from our show. Almost time for the

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01:17:31,613 --> 01:17:34,013
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock News After eleven this morning, we've got those

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01:17:34,093 --> 01:17:37,973
Speaker 2: Christmas gifting tips from our sustainability expert, plus the very

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01:17:38,053 --> 01:17:41,133
Speaker 2: latest from Lee and Andrew Child. Yes there is a

1524
01:17:41,133 --> 01:17:43,653
Speaker 2: new Jack Reacher book just in time for Christmas. News

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Speaker 2: is next. It's almost eleven on News Talks dB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend with bpewre dot co dot insad for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements Newstalk SB.

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Speaker 2: Gooday, Hi, how's it going? Good morning Kilton, New Zealand's

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01:18:24,173 --> 01:18:26,453
Speaker 2: Jack tame here. So I got to be back in

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01:18:26,493 --> 01:18:28,933
Speaker 2: the studio. It's the first time we've been doing Saturday

1532
01:18:28,933 --> 01:18:32,973
Speaker 2: Mornings live from our regular studio looking at producer Libby

1533
01:18:33,013 --> 01:18:36,013
Speaker 2: in the flesh for more than a month, because what

1534
01:18:36,013 --> 01:18:37,973
Speaker 2: it was the start of October that we headed over

1535
01:18:38,053 --> 01:18:40,453
Speaker 2: to the US to cover the US election. Then we're

1536
01:18:40,493 --> 01:18:43,133
Speaker 2: in Peru and all around the place. If you want

1537
01:18:43,173 --> 01:18:46,693
Speaker 2: to see any picks from Lima, Peru or from my

1538
01:18:46,813 --> 01:18:49,173
Speaker 2: time in the US covering the election. I've put those

1539
01:18:49,213 --> 01:18:51,573
Speaker 2: up on our Facebook page. The easiest way to get

1540
01:18:51,613 --> 01:18:53,773
Speaker 2: to our Facebook page is just to search Jack Tame

1541
01:18:53,853 --> 01:18:55,613
Speaker 2: on Facebook they believe it or not, are not that

1542
01:18:55,653 --> 01:18:58,093
Speaker 2: many Jack Tames out there. Or you can go to

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01:18:58,173 --> 01:19:00,373
Speaker 2: Jacktame dot com, which I think leads you straight through

1544
01:19:00,373 --> 01:19:01,853
Speaker 2: to the Facebook page. So I've tried to put up

1545
01:19:01,853 --> 01:19:05,653
Speaker 2: a little selection there of photos from my weeks in

1546
01:19:05,733 --> 01:19:08,293
Speaker 2: Peru and the US. Now before the day on News

1547
01:19:08,293 --> 01:19:11,213
Speaker 2: Talks B, we've got new music few from Sure Mendes.

1548
01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:14,133
Speaker 2: He's had just a really interesting few years. He was like,

1549
01:19:14,573 --> 01:19:17,133
Speaker 2: honestly one of the biggest pop stars in the world,

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01:19:17,733 --> 01:19:21,493
Speaker 2: had this huge global tour planned something like eighty different

1551
01:19:21,573 --> 01:19:24,453
Speaker 2: dates plan all around the world. So you know, he

1552
01:19:24,493 --> 01:19:27,173
Speaker 2: was incredibly in demand, and he just decided that actually

1553
01:19:27,173 --> 01:19:29,573
Speaker 2: it was all a bit too much. For mental health reasons,

1554
01:19:29,573 --> 01:19:31,933
Speaker 2: he decided to pullp in on the tour. He decided

1555
01:19:31,973 --> 01:19:33,853
Speaker 2: to step back from music for a little bit, step

1556
01:19:33,893 --> 01:19:36,093
Speaker 2: back from the limelight for a little bit. But anyway,

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01:19:36,173 --> 01:19:38,613
Speaker 2: Sure Mendes is back after a bit of a hiatus.

1558
01:19:38,653 --> 01:19:41,213
Speaker 2: He's got a new album called Heart of Gold, and

1559
01:19:41,333 --> 01:19:43,573
Speaker 2: before twelve o'clock, I'm going to make sure we have

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01:19:43,653 --> 01:19:45,213
Speaker 2: a bit of time so we can listen to the

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01:19:45,293 --> 01:19:47,773
Speaker 2: album as well as that very much looking forward to

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01:19:47,813 --> 01:19:50,253
Speaker 2: this one. Suspects that may have been published just in

1563
01:19:50,293 --> 01:19:53,213
Speaker 2: time for Christmas, the latest from Lee and Andrew Child

1564
01:19:53,253 --> 01:19:55,893
Speaker 2: their latest Jack Reach a book in Too Deep. I'll

1565
01:19:55,933 --> 01:19:58,093
Speaker 2: give you all the details on that shortly. Right now,

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01:19:58,173 --> 01:20:01,013
Speaker 2: it is nine minutes past eleven and time to getch

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01:20:01,093 --> 01:20:04,773
Speaker 2: up with us. Sustainability commentator Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate

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Speaker 2: Gilder whatever, Well, Christmas is upon us once again, and

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01:20:08,853 --> 01:20:11,453
Speaker 2: one thing that I know you and I are absolutely

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01:20:11,493 --> 01:20:14,533
Speaker 2: aligned on is that one of the great mistakes in

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01:20:14,573 --> 01:20:16,733
Speaker 2: life is that people end up spending way too much

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Speaker 2: money on gifts that no one actually wants. It's just

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01:20:19,573 --> 01:20:23,453
Speaker 2: one of those ridiculous things. And I am just so

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01:20:23,653 --> 01:20:26,693
Speaker 2: with you and that we should be giving thoughtful gifts,

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01:20:26,733 --> 01:20:30,293
Speaker 2: but maybe giving experiences rather than stuff that cost the world.

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01:20:30,333 --> 01:20:32,533
Speaker 2: And if you are going to give a gift, you

1577
01:20:32,573 --> 01:20:34,173
Speaker 2: really don't want to be spending the world, but you

1578
01:20:34,213 --> 01:20:35,853
Speaker 2: want to be thinking quite carefully about it.

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, I think Christmas can be a really stressful time

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01:20:41,053 --> 01:20:44,973
Speaker 22: for people because it's a financial burden, and you know,

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01:20:44,973 --> 01:20:47,893
Speaker 22: there's all this responsibility about the right gifts, and then

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01:20:47,933 --> 01:20:53,013
Speaker 22: the gifts ultimately end up not being used, but we

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01:20:53,053 --> 01:20:54,853
Speaker 22: can use it as a really great time to actually

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01:20:55,133 --> 01:20:58,253
Speaker 22: get creatives and yeah, to give back and show our

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01:20:58,253 --> 01:21:00,453
Speaker 22: friends and family that we love them in ways that

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01:21:00,493 --> 01:21:03,773
Speaker 22: actually don't cost the earth and don't cost you know,

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01:21:03,853 --> 01:21:04,853
Speaker 22: so much for our wallets.

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01:21:05,053 --> 01:21:08,013
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I don't know how we should break this down,

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01:21:08,013 --> 01:21:10,813
Speaker 2: but let's start off by just thinking about some alternatives

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01:21:10,853 --> 01:21:14,613
Speaker 2: to like material gifts, and then we can talk about

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01:21:14,613 --> 01:21:16,293
Speaker 2: the material gift side of things if you want to

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01:21:16,293 --> 01:21:18,493
Speaker 2: go down that path, because you've got a great blog

1593
01:21:18,573 --> 01:21:21,293
Speaker 2: with suggestions there. But if you don't want to end

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01:21:21,373 --> 01:21:25,373
Speaker 2: up spending hundreds of dollars on something or on you know,

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01:21:25,413 --> 01:21:28,053
Speaker 2: on an item as such, what are some alternatives to that?

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Speaker 11: So we've got a classic, you know kind of gift

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01:21:31,373 --> 01:21:35,533
Speaker 11: up to things like a massage or an experience, you know,

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01:21:35,693 --> 01:21:38,293
Speaker 11: bungee jumping. That's not my cup of tea, but you know,

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01:21:38,493 --> 01:21:41,093
Speaker 11: doing something outdoors, really thinking about the person and what

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Speaker 11: they'd like to do. I can guarantee you know they're

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Speaker 11: going to remember that experience more than you know, just

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01:21:48,653 --> 01:21:52,373
Speaker 11: the random knick knack you've picked up last minute from them.

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Speaker 11: All so thinking about experiences and you know what actually

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01:21:56,413 --> 01:22:00,813
Speaker 11: people like to do, also thinking about how can I

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01:22:01,373 --> 01:22:03,813
Speaker 11: how can I give back this Christmas? So like one

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01:22:03,893 --> 01:22:07,533
Speaker 11: year with my fino, we didn't give physical gifts. We

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Speaker 11: gave money to certain charities, but keeping in mind the

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Speaker 11: person we were giving it too. So for example, my

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Speaker 11: brother is a great musician, and I gave I think

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Speaker 11: how budget was about fifty dollars to a music therapy organization.

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Speaker 2: Cool.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, you know, so it's not just you know.

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01:22:27,253 --> 01:22:31,133
Speaker 22: Kind of giving back kind of randomly to any your organization,

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01:22:31,253 --> 01:22:34,693
Speaker 22: but it's there's that personalized element too. Yeah, so yeah,

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01:22:34,773 --> 01:22:35,813
Speaker 22: you know, giving.

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01:22:35,533 --> 01:22:38,053
Speaker 11: Back Like he felt great, we all felt great.

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01:22:37,853 --> 01:22:41,213
Speaker 22: And we sat around and exchanged those gifts and had

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01:22:41,213 --> 01:22:43,893
Speaker 22: a really yeah cool kind of time just talking about

1619
01:22:43,933 --> 01:22:47,053
Speaker 22: those different organizations as a family, and there was no

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01:22:47,733 --> 01:22:52,133
Speaker 22: kind of need for wrapping paper, yeah, bundles in the corner.

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01:22:52,173 --> 01:22:56,933
Speaker 22: There's yeah, no rubbish involved in that. So those experiences

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01:22:57,373 --> 01:22:59,373
Speaker 22: and giving back I think.

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Speaker 2: Some of the inks at once, even speaking as a

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01:23:01,253 --> 01:23:03,973
Speaker 2: as a gift receiver, I mean, I'm just I'm like

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01:23:04,093 --> 01:23:07,213
Speaker 2: the world most difficult person to buy for. But that's

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01:23:07,333 --> 01:23:09,773
Speaker 2: the point, I guess I don't. I don't necessarily want

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01:23:09,813 --> 01:23:12,173
Speaker 2: to be bought for in that in that in that honestly,

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01:23:12,213 --> 01:23:15,813
Speaker 2: having an experience is as valuable to me as anything

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01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:18,173
Speaker 2: like give me a memory, you know, that's that's the

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01:23:18,533 --> 01:23:20,853
Speaker 2: that's the thing that you cherish and years.

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01:23:20,693 --> 01:23:23,853
Speaker 22: To come exactly. And there's you know, like different love

1632
01:23:23,933 --> 01:23:26,373
Speaker 22: languages we talk about, right, so physical gifts is just

1633
01:23:26,453 --> 01:23:30,173
Speaker 22: one of them, you know, the experiences and spending time

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01:23:30,213 --> 01:23:33,293
Speaker 22: as another. But one thing I also really like we

1635
01:23:33,373 --> 01:23:36,093
Speaker 22: did once with my family is kind of acts of

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01:23:36,173 --> 01:23:40,453
Speaker 22: service instead. So we like my sister were a little

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01:23:40,533 --> 01:23:44,733
Speaker 22: voucher for setting up kind of a lovely romantic dinner

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01:23:44,773 --> 01:23:47,253
Speaker 22: with me and my husband Tim, Tim and I gave

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01:23:47,533 --> 01:23:49,773
Speaker 22: mom and dad a vouchers for two hours of cleaning

1640
01:23:49,773 --> 01:23:52,773
Speaker 22: their house, you know, different things. That's like, actually, we're

1641
01:23:52,813 --> 01:23:55,293
Speaker 22: going to be helpful and we're going to do something

1642
01:23:55,693 --> 01:23:59,093
Speaker 22: that doesn't you know, need to cost a lot, but

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01:23:59,173 --> 01:24:02,293
Speaker 22: it's it's also showing that actually, in the new year,

1644
01:24:02,453 --> 01:24:05,253
Speaker 22: we want to spend time with you and you know,

1645
01:24:05,413 --> 01:24:07,853
Speaker 22: like keep up the relationship. It's kind of a nice

1646
01:24:08,293 --> 01:24:10,933
Speaker 22: thing to also say, you know, because with an experience,

1647
01:24:11,293 --> 01:24:13,893
Speaker 22: you can be involved in that experience with the person too,

1648
01:24:14,333 --> 01:24:17,693
Speaker 22: So it's quite Yeah, it's a much more thoughtful gesture

1649
01:24:17,733 --> 01:24:21,333
Speaker 22: than just a random T shirt you've to them all.

1650
01:24:21,533 --> 01:24:24,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Okay. That being said, sometimes you

1651
01:24:24,333 --> 01:24:25,653
Speaker 2: do want to give a gift. Sometimes you want to

1652
01:24:25,653 --> 01:24:29,213
Speaker 2: give a physical thing to someone, and you have very

1653
01:24:29,373 --> 01:24:32,293
Speaker 2: very carefully considered a whole range of different gifts and

1654
01:24:32,373 --> 01:24:33,773
Speaker 2: you put together a list. I think it's like one

1655
01:24:33,813 --> 01:24:37,413
Speaker 2: hundred different products, right. But the thing that you've done

1656
01:24:37,493 --> 01:24:39,373
Speaker 2: very really well is you've gone through some of those

1657
01:24:39,413 --> 01:24:43,253
Speaker 2: classic gift categories. So you've got like really ethically sourced

1658
01:24:43,373 --> 01:24:47,253
Speaker 2: socks for example, chocolate, wine, all of that good stuff.

1659
01:24:47,293 --> 01:24:49,213
Speaker 2: So why don't you just pick a couple of favorite

1660
01:24:49,253 --> 01:24:52,293
Speaker 2: items on there and maybe give us the copeppa behind

1661
01:24:52,853 --> 01:24:53,573
Speaker 2: your list?

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01:24:54,213 --> 01:24:57,933
Speaker 22: Yeah, so I decided lost years. I kind of sometimes

1663
01:24:57,933 --> 01:25:00,533
Speaker 22: feel like a bit of a Christmas gritch, you know.

1664
01:25:00,893 --> 01:25:03,733
Speaker 22: I do say, just give an experience, just do something different,

1665
01:25:03,733 --> 01:25:07,973
Speaker 22: like I've explained, which is great, But I think every year,

1666
01:25:08,093 --> 01:25:10,733
Speaker 22: even though I try to give those guests as well,

1667
01:25:10,933 --> 01:25:14,333
Speaker 22: I always have to buy something. You know, there's a

1668
01:25:14,453 --> 01:25:17,373
Speaker 22: neighbor or an antsy or someone who you know you

1669
01:25:17,453 --> 01:25:20,133
Speaker 22: may not know well enough to give a proper experience

1670
01:25:20,533 --> 01:25:23,773
Speaker 22: thatcher or something like that. So I chose all the

1671
01:25:23,813 --> 01:25:27,213
Speaker 22: classic gift Christmas guests for a reason. I actually asked

1672
01:25:27,213 --> 01:25:30,533
Speaker 22: my community online, you know what are the most classic gifts,

1673
01:25:30,533 --> 01:25:36,933
Speaker 22: so you know, soaps and like I said, wine, chocolate, socks.

1674
01:25:37,093 --> 01:25:39,893
Speaker 22: This is about twenty one categories on there. And I

1675
01:25:40,013 --> 01:25:43,973
Speaker 22: spent several months. I started this way back in July

1676
01:25:44,133 --> 01:25:49,733
Speaker 22: August looking at brands who have different credentials like they're

1677
01:25:49,773 --> 01:25:53,253
Speaker 22: made in New Zealand, or they're ethically made, they have

1678
01:25:53,413 --> 01:25:56,973
Speaker 22: much better packaging, better more sustainable postage.

1679
01:25:57,013 --> 01:25:57,333
Speaker 14: To you.

1680
01:25:58,213 --> 01:26:01,693
Speaker 22: They a lot of small businesses, so small kind of

1681
01:26:01,693 --> 01:26:05,413
Speaker 22: family run businesses, which is you know, it's Christmas for

1682
01:26:05,533 --> 01:26:08,293
Speaker 22: them for ours to be able to support them. And

1683
01:26:08,653 --> 01:26:11,333
Speaker 22: when you bring something I find, you know, even if

1684
01:26:11,373 --> 01:26:14,133
Speaker 22: it is a soap, which can be a really low

1685
01:26:14,893 --> 01:26:18,173
Speaker 22: cost point, if it's a soap that is made you

1686
01:26:18,213 --> 01:26:22,533
Speaker 22: know by oh Goodness in Wellington, it comes with the

1687
01:26:22,613 --> 01:26:26,133
Speaker 22: extra story is like this is made you know by

1688
01:26:27,533 --> 01:26:29,493
Speaker 22: you know, one person who has a great little book

1689
01:26:29,533 --> 01:26:31,933
Speaker 22: shop down there, and it's a small cost point, but

1690
01:26:31,973 --> 01:26:34,133
Speaker 22: it comes with that story and it can actually feel

1691
01:26:34,173 --> 01:26:38,093
Speaker 22: like you know, you're not You're not just buying something

1692
01:26:38,133 --> 01:26:41,973
Speaker 22: small you're it's actually quite big impact. So yeah, there

1693
01:26:42,013 --> 01:26:44,973
Speaker 22: are over one hundred different brands and options, lots of

1694
01:26:45,013 --> 01:26:48,053
Speaker 22: discount codes too, because again I think especially this Christmas,

1695
01:26:48,053 --> 01:26:51,573
Speaker 22: everyone's really feeling it financially, so it needs to be

1696
01:26:51,653 --> 01:26:56,533
Speaker 22: sustainable financially for you too. So I hope that means that, yeah,

1697
01:26:56,573 --> 01:26:59,213
Speaker 22: people feel a little less os awhemed.

1698
01:26:59,013 --> 01:27:01,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're well. Thank you. Kate. That is

1699
01:27:01,773 --> 01:27:04,613
Speaker 2: Kate Hall. She is our sustainability commentator and you can

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01:27:04,653 --> 01:27:06,733
Speaker 2: find her on all of the social media places forms

1701
01:27:06,733 --> 01:27:09,773
Speaker 2: by searching ethically Kate. In a couple of minutes on

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01:27:09,773 --> 01:27:12,693
Speaker 2: news talks, he'd be our travel correspondence in this week

1703
01:27:12,813 --> 01:27:19,013
Speaker 2: he's got the Disneyland dos and don't sixteen past eleven.

1704
01:27:18,373 --> 01:27:22,613
Speaker 23: Travel with Windy wo tours, unique fully inclusive tours around

1705
01:27:22,653 --> 01:27:45,853
Speaker 23: the world.

1706
01:27:47,653 --> 01:27:52,413
Speaker 2: That is the sweeping epic Disney theme which Mike Hawdly,

1707
01:27:52,493 --> 01:27:55,893
Speaker 2: our travel correspondent, absolutely insisted he must be introduced with

1708
01:27:55,933 --> 01:27:58,933
Speaker 2: this morning and fair enough. Mike, I reckon, I reckon,

1709
01:27:59,013 --> 01:28:01,413
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's the kind of the level of

1710
01:28:01,453 --> 01:28:03,773
Speaker 2: grandeur that we would expect for someone like your good self.

1711
01:28:04,773 --> 01:28:07,373
Speaker 8: Indeed, Jack, by the way, I can congratulations on all

1712
01:28:07,413 --> 01:28:10,493
Speaker 8: of your momentous news and achievements, so you will soon

1713
01:28:10,573 --> 01:28:13,013
Speaker 8: have another child to lug off to Disneyland.

1714
01:28:13,093 --> 01:28:18,013
Speaker 2: Yes, I see that. I don't mention anything. I reckon

1715
01:28:18,093 --> 01:28:21,053
Speaker 2: that seven year old. I reckon he would be Look,

1716
01:28:21,053 --> 01:28:23,093
Speaker 2: I'm sure he would be very excited by the prospect

1717
01:28:23,093 --> 01:28:27,013
Speaker 2: of Disneyland. But yes, I've never been. I've never been.

1718
01:28:27,093 --> 01:28:29,573
Speaker 2: So I'm looking forward to your do's and don't your

1719
01:28:29,613 --> 01:28:32,133
Speaker 2: tips this morning, because they do say that Disneyland is

1720
01:28:32,133 --> 01:28:33,533
Speaker 2: one of those places that even if you're not a

1721
01:28:33,573 --> 01:28:35,453
Speaker 2: huge Disney fan, it can be a lot of fun. Yeah,

1722
01:28:35,493 --> 01:28:38,373
Speaker 2: so I think so, yeah, yeah, Okay, So look, twenty

1723
01:28:38,373 --> 01:28:41,773
Speaker 2: twenty five is a big anniversary year Fity Magic Kingdom

1724
01:28:41,893 --> 01:28:43,053
Speaker 2: in Anaheim, right.

1725
01:28:43,693 --> 01:28:48,453
Speaker 8: Yes, indeed, Jack the original Mouthhouse turned seventy. Guess how

1726
01:28:48,533 --> 01:28:53,493
Speaker 8: many visitors have trawled through Disneyland since nineteen fifty five.

1727
01:28:53,973 --> 01:28:58,213
Speaker 2: Okay, let's think about this, seventy years. Let's say what

1728
01:28:58,213 --> 01:29:00,493
Speaker 2: would be an appropriate number of visitors a day.

1729
01:29:00,853 --> 01:29:04,933
Speaker 8: I reckon they can house about one hundred and fifty

1730
01:29:04,973 --> 01:29:05,733
Speaker 8: thousand a day.

1731
01:29:06,013 --> 01:29:08,413
Speaker 2: Okay, So I reckon if they can house one hundred

1732
01:29:08,453 --> 01:29:10,613
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand a day, let's say say that it's

1733
01:29:10,653 --> 01:29:14,413
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand a day, So let's say one hundred

1734
01:29:14,413 --> 01:29:20,293
Speaker 2: thousand a day. Okay, So you know, are we I mean,

1735
01:29:20,333 --> 01:29:22,933
Speaker 2: are we are we getting into the Are we getting

1736
01:29:22,933 --> 01:29:24,333
Speaker 2: into the hunt? I mean we must be in the

1737
01:29:24,413 --> 01:29:27,693
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions, if not billions.

1738
01:29:27,853 --> 01:29:30,373
Speaker 8: Yeah, eight hundred million.

1739
01:29:31,773 --> 01:29:34,893
Speaker 2: There's hundreds of millions, if not billions.

1740
01:29:34,933 --> 01:29:35,413
Speaker 6: Well done.

1741
01:29:36,453 --> 01:29:39,413
Speaker 2: I mean there's a ridiculous number of visitors.

1742
01:29:39,573 --> 01:29:40,013
Speaker 5: Isn't it.

1743
01:29:40,693 --> 01:29:45,813
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just yeah. You can fully expect plenty more

1744
01:29:45,893 --> 01:29:48,573
Speaker 8: to add to that que next year for the big seventy,

1745
01:29:49,013 --> 01:29:53,413
Speaker 8: And they've got a lot of milestone festivities and store.

1746
01:29:53,453 --> 01:29:55,933
Speaker 8: They haven't really saw the details, but what I have

1747
01:29:56,093 --> 01:29:58,253
Speaker 8: managed to find out is there's going to be a

1748
01:29:58,293 --> 01:30:00,933
Speaker 8: really big focus on nostalgia, a lot of sort of

1749
01:30:00,973 --> 01:30:05,373
Speaker 8: retro theming, a lot of returning parades from over the decades.

1750
01:30:05,693 --> 01:30:07,973
Speaker 8: And there's also going to be this new stage show

1751
01:30:08,093 --> 01:30:12,013
Speaker 8: which apparently is going to be very cutting edge with

1752
01:30:12,053 --> 01:30:15,493
Speaker 8: all of the technology, which is basically going to prize

1753
01:30:15,533 --> 01:30:18,773
Speaker 8: open the vaults on Walt Disney's Magical Life. So yeah,

1754
01:30:18,813 --> 01:30:20,693
Speaker 8: a lot of new stuff in store next year.

1755
01:30:20,813 --> 01:30:22,813
Speaker 2: Where should you start in the park?

1756
01:30:23,493 --> 01:30:27,373
Speaker 8: Oh my god, Jack, once the gate's open, it's just

1757
01:30:27,493 --> 01:30:31,773
Speaker 8: incredible to watch all of these billowing queues form at

1758
01:30:31,893 --> 01:30:36,493
Speaker 8: every single ride. You know, it's just the mass march

1759
01:30:36,533 --> 01:30:39,573
Speaker 8: of humanity. So if you are a kid at heart,

1760
01:30:39,653 --> 01:30:42,253
Speaker 8: what I would suggest is forget about the rides. The

1761
01:30:42,293 --> 01:30:46,773
Speaker 8: starters go straight to Tomtown for a personal photo inside

1762
01:30:46,813 --> 01:30:49,653
Speaker 8: Mickey's house with the mouse himself. I just reckon, that's

1763
01:30:49,653 --> 01:30:52,213
Speaker 8: one of those little golden moments. Yeah, and then you

1764
01:30:52,253 --> 01:30:54,453
Speaker 8: can rinse and repeat that right next.

1765
01:30:54,253 --> 01:30:55,013
Speaker 7: Door with Mini.

1766
01:30:55,453 --> 01:30:58,533
Speaker 8: So if you do that early, you will only have

1767
01:30:58,613 --> 01:31:01,813
Speaker 8: to wait about five minutes to get those immortal shots.

1768
01:31:02,453 --> 01:31:04,493
Speaker 2: That's good. Opposed to doing it at two o'clock in

1769
01:31:04,493 --> 01:31:05,653
Speaker 2: the afternoon and you'll be in trouble.

1770
01:31:05,733 --> 01:31:08,253
Speaker 8: That's it. At two o'clock in the afternoon, you could

1771
01:31:08,253 --> 01:31:11,573
Speaker 8: be waiting two or three hours. So I know, it's

1772
01:31:11,653 --> 01:31:16,893
Speaker 8: just insane, So guarantee Mickey first up. And also, by

1773
01:31:16,893 --> 01:31:19,893
Speaker 8: the way, in Toontown, they've just opened a new ride

1774
01:31:19,973 --> 01:31:24,933
Speaker 8: called Mckenmonnie's Runaway Railway and it's absolutely superb, So tick

1775
01:31:25,053 --> 01:31:27,373
Speaker 8: that off early as well, before the queues build.

1776
01:31:27,533 --> 01:31:30,813
Speaker 2: What would you rate as the do not miss experiences?

1777
01:31:31,493 --> 01:31:34,373
Speaker 8: Well, I reckon the original rights are still the best,

1778
01:31:34,533 --> 01:31:38,053
Speaker 8: So think it's a small World, Mister Toad's Wild Ride,

1779
01:31:38,173 --> 01:31:42,253
Speaker 8: Peter Pan's Flight, obviously, the Mad Tea Party, Spinning Cups,

1780
01:31:43,613 --> 01:31:47,973
Speaker 8: the Matter Horn, Bobcats. Something more recent time Star Wars

1781
01:31:47,973 --> 01:31:51,773
Speaker 8: Galaxies Edge. I think that ride on the Millennium Falcon

1782
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:55,413
Speaker 8: is truly riveting. And then also you've got that epic

1783
01:31:55,573 --> 01:31:59,533
Speaker 8: battle scene experience Rise of the Resistance and then in

1784
01:31:59,613 --> 01:32:04,773
Speaker 8: the adjoining park California Adventure Radiator Springs Races. I just

1785
01:32:04,893 --> 01:32:09,733
Speaker 8: adore that experience very much from Cars the movie. Yeah,

1786
01:32:09,733 --> 01:32:12,893
Speaker 8: and also Guardians of the Galaxy that should also top

1787
01:32:12,973 --> 01:32:14,253
Speaker 8: your bingo cart nice.

1788
01:32:14,293 --> 01:32:17,173
Speaker 2: How can you expedite time spent queuing?

1789
01:32:18,013 --> 01:32:20,493
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, the Disney theme parks, they have chopped and

1790
01:32:20,613 --> 01:32:24,013
Speaker 8: changed the way they've operated priority lanes in recent years.

1791
01:32:24,093 --> 01:32:27,693
Speaker 8: But to keep things simple, I would strongly suggest you

1792
01:32:27,773 --> 01:32:32,093
Speaker 8: spend a bit more for lightning lane access. So these

1793
01:32:32,093 --> 01:32:34,813
Speaker 8: are lightning lane passes that are available on the most

1794
01:32:34,853 --> 01:32:37,573
Speaker 8: in demand attractions, And the way it works is you

1795
01:32:37,613 --> 01:32:42,333
Speaker 8: book a time to write via the Disneyland app very

1796
01:32:42,333 --> 01:32:45,773
Speaker 8: short during time and yeah, you can basically just jump

1797
01:32:45,773 --> 01:32:48,693
Speaker 8: the ques. The multi pass is available for a lot

1798
01:32:48,733 --> 01:32:51,573
Speaker 8: of the rides, but you can also buy single lightning

1799
01:32:51,653 --> 01:32:55,533
Speaker 8: lane passes for the likes of Radiator Springs Races or

1800
01:32:55,613 --> 01:32:58,333
Speaker 8: Rise of the Resistance, and honestly, that will just save

1801
01:32:58,413 --> 01:33:02,493
Speaker 8: you so many hours that you would waste in queues.

1802
01:33:02,693 --> 01:33:02,973
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1803
01:33:03,293 --> 01:33:05,893
Speaker 2: That being said, it's a smart idea not to try

1804
01:33:05,893 --> 01:33:07,253
Speaker 2: and do eve thing in one day.

1805
01:33:08,053 --> 01:33:10,813
Speaker 8: Yeah, this was the saddest insight I had a few

1806
01:33:10,813 --> 01:33:13,613
Speaker 8: weeks ago at Disneyland jack By about four o'clock, five

1807
01:33:13,613 --> 01:33:17,013
Speaker 8: o'clock in the afternoon. I was just alarmed at how

1808
01:33:17,053 --> 01:33:20,773
Speaker 8: many families I saw in a state of total implosion.

1809
01:33:21,053 --> 01:33:24,053
Speaker 8: And it was like they were frantically trying to make

1810
01:33:24,213 --> 01:33:27,813
Speaker 8: every single minute count and the sugar high from all

1811
01:33:27,853 --> 01:33:30,733
Speaker 8: of those Turo's and the Mickey Waffles had well and

1812
01:33:30,773 --> 01:33:32,853
Speaker 8: truly worn off on the kids. They were in like

1813
01:33:32,893 --> 01:33:37,373
Speaker 8: a state of meltdown. And it was just the most frazzled,

1814
01:33:38,253 --> 01:33:42,573
Speaker 8: tantrum prone scene that I thought was just a big

1815
01:33:42,653 --> 01:33:46,733
Speaker 8: spoiler on what Disneyland should be about. So don't try

1816
01:33:46,733 --> 01:33:49,173
Speaker 8: and pack it into one day. Definitely by a multi

1817
01:33:49,253 --> 01:33:51,733
Speaker 8: day pass and just take it at a more leisurely

1818
01:33:51,773 --> 01:33:53,613
Speaker 8: paced I know it's going to cost you more, but

1819
01:33:53,693 --> 01:33:54,413
Speaker 8: it's worth it.

1820
01:33:54,533 --> 01:33:56,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, if you're already spending the money

1821
01:33:56,253 --> 01:33:59,133
Speaker 2: to get there, you sort of Actually maybe the premium

1822
01:33:59,453 --> 01:34:01,933
Speaker 2: gives you that found you it's worth it a ultimately,

1823
01:34:02,053 --> 01:34:05,853
Speaker 2: would you recommend staying on site at a Disney hotel.

1824
01:34:05,613 --> 01:34:08,213
Speaker 8: Yeah, these to the better. I reckon to once again

1825
01:34:08,253 --> 01:34:10,653
Speaker 8: eliminate a bit more stress. I mean, there is quite

1826
01:34:10,693 --> 01:34:13,573
Speaker 8: a bit of faith involved getting to and from the park,

1827
01:34:13,853 --> 01:34:17,333
Speaker 8: particularly if you're staying further away. So I stayed at

1828
01:34:17,333 --> 01:34:20,533
Speaker 8: one of those onsite Disney hotels, the Grand Californian, and

1829
01:34:20,533 --> 01:34:22,733
Speaker 8: the other really good perk about that is you actually

1830
01:34:22,733 --> 01:34:25,253
Speaker 8: get a head start on the crowds, so you get

1831
01:34:26,373 --> 01:34:31,693
Speaker 8: access to the parks thirty minutes early. So yeah, it

1832
01:34:31,813 --> 01:34:36,813
Speaker 8: just gives you that jump on humanity, which is particularly appealing.

1833
01:34:37,093 --> 01:34:39,213
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, when would be the best time for key

1834
01:34:39,253 --> 01:34:39,853
Speaker 2: we used to visit.

1835
01:34:40,773 --> 01:34:42,813
Speaker 8: Well, A good thing for us is that if you're

1836
01:34:42,853 --> 01:34:46,693
Speaker 8: planning a post Christmas holiday, say like January right through

1837
01:34:46,693 --> 01:34:50,973
Speaker 8: to March, they are actually the quietest months at Disneyland. January, February, March.

1838
01:34:51,813 --> 01:34:54,853
Speaker 8: Also mid September to mid November is a quieter period,

1839
01:34:54,853 --> 01:34:58,493
Speaker 8: so September school holidays is quite good for that. Definitely

1840
01:34:58,533 --> 01:35:03,373
Speaker 8: avoid July and August like the plague that is jam

1841
01:35:03,413 --> 01:35:06,173
Speaker 8: packed and the other thing, try and pop your visit

1842
01:35:06,213 --> 01:35:10,773
Speaker 8: for weekdays, particularly Tuesdays and Wednesdays for some reason, are

1843
01:35:10,813 --> 01:35:14,173
Speaker 8: the quietest days of the week year round. So yeah,

1844
01:35:14,213 --> 01:35:17,453
Speaker 8: weekends very very busy. Try and avoid the weekend nice.

1845
01:35:17,293 --> 01:35:19,973
Speaker 2: And should we add to the list, And I would

1846
01:35:19,973 --> 01:35:23,413
Speaker 2: not dare suggest you'd be speaking from personal experience here, Mike,

1847
01:35:23,613 --> 01:35:26,213
Speaker 2: don't lose your cell phone at Disneyland.

1848
01:35:28,453 --> 01:35:32,813
Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, my misadventure with my cell phone which

1849
01:35:33,013 --> 01:35:36,813
Speaker 8: happened to a ride on the Millennium Falcon and my

1850
01:35:36,853 --> 01:35:40,533
Speaker 8: phone was inadvertently dislodged from my say pocket. The whole

1851
01:35:40,613 --> 01:35:44,773
Speaker 8: experience opened my eyes to what is the most amazing

1852
01:35:44,973 --> 01:35:49,133
Speaker 8: lost and found machine that hums across Disneyland. So I

1853
01:35:49,253 --> 01:35:53,573
Speaker 8: employ hundreds of cast members to locate and repatriate loss

1854
01:35:53,613 --> 01:35:58,813
Speaker 8: items like It's like an army of ompulum and they

1855
01:35:58,853 --> 01:36:01,493
Speaker 8: have a very high success rate. So in my case,

1856
01:36:01,933 --> 01:36:04,973
Speaker 8: it took six hours for the ompulmpers to wave to

1857
01:36:05,013 --> 01:36:08,053
Speaker 8: weave their magic. But I up my phone back and

1858
01:36:08,613 --> 01:36:11,653
Speaker 8: my phone was one of twenty thousands that are misplaced

1859
01:36:12,093 --> 01:36:15,373
Speaker 8: every year at the Zea Land, along with one hundred

1860
01:36:15,413 --> 01:36:19,693
Speaker 8: and forty thousand hats, wallets, and sunglasses.

1861
01:36:19,653 --> 01:36:23,973
Speaker 2: Twenty thousand cell phones plus away stuff, So that's a

1862
01:36:24,293 --> 01:36:27,533
Speaker 2: that's crazy. That'd be fascinating. There's a little film on

1863
01:36:27,613 --> 01:36:30,013
Speaker 2: that just following the team behind it found. I mean,

1864
01:36:30,013 --> 01:36:33,333
Speaker 2: that is amazing. Yeah, I wonder how the twenty thousand

1865
01:36:33,333 --> 01:36:34,413
Speaker 2: are reunited.

1866
01:36:35,173 --> 01:36:37,893
Speaker 8: Apparently it's ninety two percent.

1867
01:36:38,813 --> 01:36:41,333
Speaker 2: It cell phone. That's amazing. Cell phones are easier to

1868
01:36:41,373 --> 01:36:44,413
Speaker 2: be feared to reunite than some other things. But still that.

1869
01:36:44,493 --> 01:36:46,933
Speaker 5: Is the only year sort of. Yeah.

1870
01:36:47,173 --> 01:36:49,373
Speaker 8: The impression I was left with when I found out

1871
01:36:49,413 --> 01:36:52,133
Speaker 8: this was they would suggest that people who go to

1872
01:36:52,213 --> 01:36:56,173
Speaker 8: Disneyland and good people, you know, they're honest people.

1873
01:36:56,293 --> 01:36:59,693
Speaker 2: Yes, although cell phone isn't Maybe I'm just being naive here,

1874
01:36:59,693 --> 01:37:02,453
Speaker 2: but maybe not as valuable as it once was, right

1875
01:37:02,813 --> 01:37:06,333
Speaker 2: because in order to unlock it you need to let

1876
01:37:06,973 --> 01:37:10,893
Speaker 2: facial or a pen or whatever. So maybe I don't know. Yeah,

1877
01:37:10,893 --> 01:37:14,493
Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see how much cash that's lost

1878
01:37:14,493 --> 01:37:17,533
Speaker 2: in wallets is really but still yeah, maybe that's a well,

1879
01:37:17,573 --> 01:37:18,973
Speaker 2: the happiest place in the world. You don't want to

1880
01:37:19,013 --> 01:37:22,653
Speaker 2: be thieving at the happiest place in the world, do you. Yeah,

1881
01:37:22,773 --> 01:37:25,493
Speaker 2: not a good lock. Hey. I had a twelve hour

1882
01:37:25,533 --> 01:37:28,733
Speaker 2: stop over in La on the way back earlier this week.

1883
01:37:28,973 --> 01:37:31,453
Speaker 2: So it was one of those terrible things where it

1884
01:37:31,533 --> 01:37:33,293
Speaker 2: was like you land at six am and you leave

1885
01:37:33,333 --> 01:37:36,893
Speaker 2: at seven pm or whatever, you know. So oh, and

1886
01:37:36,933 --> 01:37:38,453
Speaker 2: of course we had to take all of our luggage

1887
01:37:38,493 --> 01:37:40,253
Speaker 2: out and all of that. So I ended up getting

1888
01:37:40,253 --> 01:37:42,613
Speaker 2: a You can actually go and get a locker. So

1889
01:37:42,613 --> 01:37:44,653
Speaker 2: this is useful for anyone who's in la and maybe

1890
01:37:44,733 --> 01:37:46,893
Speaker 2: has a day and maybe even want suspended at Disneyland.

1891
01:37:46,933 --> 01:37:50,253
Speaker 2: You can't keep your baggage at the airport, but nearby

1892
01:37:50,333 --> 01:37:52,613
Speaker 2: they have locker services and so you can go into

1893
01:37:52,653 --> 01:37:54,333
Speaker 2: locker for the day. So we ended up going and

1894
01:37:54,413 --> 01:37:56,973
Speaker 2: putting our equipment in a locker, and then we went

1895
01:37:56,973 --> 01:37:59,013
Speaker 2: out to Santa Monica and had breakfast and went for

1896
01:37:59,013 --> 01:38:01,053
Speaker 2: a bit of a stroll and you know, went up

1897
01:38:01,093 --> 01:38:03,053
Speaker 2: to the Griffith Observatory and that kind of thing. So,

1898
01:38:03,453 --> 01:38:05,493
Speaker 2: you know, with twelve hours, it was much better to

1899
01:38:05,493 --> 01:38:08,093
Speaker 2: spend it out and about in La or Anaheim that

1900
01:38:08,173 --> 01:38:12,133
Speaker 2: it is to spend it in lax But yeah, yeah,

1901
01:38:12,133 --> 01:38:13,733
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your tips. We'll put all

1902
01:38:13,773 --> 01:38:15,973
Speaker 2: of those on the news talks Heb website so you

1903
01:38:16,013 --> 01:38:18,973
Speaker 2: can keep Mike's do's and don'ts for Disneyland at the

1904
01:38:19,013 --> 01:38:21,693
Speaker 2: forefront of your mind if you're planning a trip there. Johnny,

1905
01:38:21,693 --> 01:38:23,653
Speaker 2: slick me a note, you say, Jack. Fun factoid. My

1906
01:38:23,773 --> 01:38:27,973
Speaker 2: mother's cousins Jerry and Marsha McDougall were the first two

1907
01:38:28,053 --> 01:38:30,773
Speaker 2: kids through the gate at Disneyland in nineteen fifty five.

1908
01:38:31,373 --> 01:38:33,853
Speaker 2: It's amazing, Johnny. Thank you only ninety two. If you

1909
01:38:33,853 --> 01:38:35,653
Speaker 2: want to send us a message just like Johnny did.

1910
01:38:35,653 --> 01:38:37,573
Speaker 2: It's just gone eleven thirty on Newstalks EDB.

1911
01:38:41,293 --> 01:38:42,933
Speaker 6: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks edby.

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Speaker 2: That is Friends Ferdinand. Their latest track it's called Night

1914
01:39:18,573 --> 01:39:20,493
Speaker 2: and Day or Night or Day. They've got a new

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Speaker 2: album coming out in a couple of months. It's just

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Speaker 2: gone third or twenty seven minutes to twelve on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be and after midday today, Jason Pine is behind

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Speaker 2: the mic for a weekend sports. Good morning, sir Jack.

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Speaker 20: Hello, Can I be the latest to congratulate you on

1920
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Speaker 20: yet another television award and your impending fatherhood? Well done, mate, very.

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Speaker 2: Much, Thanks Penny. Big game for the Orbecks tomorrow morning

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Speaker 2: not quite as big as last weekend. I think we're

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Speaker 2: all expecting a pretty comfortable victory. But what are you

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Speaker 2: looking out for tomorrow morning, anything in particular peaking your

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Speaker 2: interests for the Orbecks Italy Just after nine am.

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Speaker 20: Well, the team selection did for starters. The fact that,

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Speaker 20: and this may well be, as I heard Sam mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 20: be a response to what happened last week, the lost

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Speaker 20: to France, albeit by one point. They want to finish

1930
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Speaker 20: the season as strongly as possible, so Razors put out

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Speaker 20: a pretty strong team. So yeah, looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 20: how how they finished the year. You know, we'll do

1933
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Speaker 20: Razors report card on Weekend Sport tomorrow. People can have

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Speaker 20: their say whether it's a you know, a mark out

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Speaker 20: of ten or you know the old fashioned B minus

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Speaker 20: or C plus or whatever it is. But look, I

1937
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Speaker 20: just would like to see them finish the season strongly,

1938
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Speaker 20: you know, scurse score, some tries, give us, some give

1939
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Speaker 20: us something.

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Speaker 2: To to enjoy. Yeah, but of entertainment, it's going to

1941
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Speaker 2: be very very cold there by the sounds of things.

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Speaker 20: Elliot Smith's been looking for extra jackets and beanies and

1943
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Speaker 20: scarves all week. It's gonna be minus minus something at

1944
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Speaker 20: kickoff tomorrow. But yeah, not looking forward to to see

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Speaker 20: how they finished the Yes, apparently it's absolutely freezing and

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Speaker 20: churin ah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I knew that Italy gets cold. I mean

1948
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Speaker 2: obviously you can go skiing in itly, but I didn't

1949
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Speaker 2: think it was going to be like as an Arctic

1950
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Speaker 2: Arctic check dear. Okay, well, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure

1951
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Speaker 2: they'll I'm sure they handle things. But yeah, that's to

1952
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Speaker 2: be interesting. So Alex that's of course, is going to

1953
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Speaker 2: have the call for us tomorrow morning on news salks

1954
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Speaker 2: he'd be ten past nine kick off. The allbacks versus

1955
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Speaker 2: at least are looking forward to that phoenix An action

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Speaker 2: this weekend. So the Wellington women play Adelaide tonight, the

1957
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Speaker 2: men in Melbourne tomorrow, right.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I know the women played last night. I had

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Speaker 20: a win, yes, and the men are pain tonight the men, yep,

1960
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Speaker 20: And it's part of you night round. All the games

1961
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Speaker 20: are in Sydney, so all the teams from both men's

1962
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Speaker 20: and women's legs are in Sydney at least. I forget

1963
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Speaker 20: Auckland FC as well.

1964
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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 20: You know three from three, Yeah, looking to go four

1966
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Speaker 20: from four. First time they've had to go to Australia

1967
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Speaker 20: to play. They had a couple of games at Mount

1968
01:41:41,493 --> 01:41:44,133
Speaker 20: Smart in the Derby and Wellington, so first chance for

1969
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Speaker 20: them to play on the other side of the Tasman.

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Speaker 2: Look, they're in.

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Speaker 20: Good form as other Phoenix a good win last time out,

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Speaker 20: so yeah, looking forward to watching both of our men's

1973
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Speaker 20: teams play over the weekend.

1974
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Speaker 2: Here what's on the show this afternoon? Glenn Maxwell's on

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Speaker 2: the show.

1976
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Speaker 20: Can't wait to chat to him the Aussie all round

1977
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Speaker 20: of the Big Show, Bigho. Do you remember Jack in

1978
01:42:01,333 --> 01:42:06,293
Speaker 20: the twenty fifteen credit. I knew you were probably there.

1979
01:42:06,973 --> 01:42:10,133
Speaker 20: When we are bowld about for one fifty, we're cruising

1980
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Speaker 20: and there were all of a sudden we're not cruising

1981
01:42:12,333 --> 01:42:15,653
Speaker 20: and Glenn Maxwell gives it the choke gesture to the crowd.

1982
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Speaker 20: I want to ask him about that. And of course

1983
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Speaker 20: that incredible two hundred and one not out he got

1984
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Speaker 20: at the World Cup last year on One.

1985
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Speaker 2: League just the most. I still think that was among

1986
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Speaker 2: the most ridiculous innings I've ever seen. I mean, I

1987
01:42:28,573 --> 01:42:32,533
Speaker 2: know it was a T twenty right, but still just

1988
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Speaker 2: the fact that he could barely walk and he pulled that.

1989
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Speaker 13: Off was just remarkable. Remarkable.

1990
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely ludicrous. Is on the show after two.

1991
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Speaker 20: Also Mark Robinson, the CEO of New Zealand Rugby, his

1992
01:42:43,573 --> 01:42:46,933
Speaker 20: final regular chat with us. We've got some basketball as well,

1993
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Speaker 20: some big numbers, wasn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, it was.

1996
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Speaker 20: A white ball white ball guy. They were sort of

1997
01:42:54,173 --> 01:42:57,293
Speaker 20: blend into one, don't they. Basketball numbers and secondary school

1998
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Speaker 20: are gangbusters. Dylan Boucher is the CEO of Basketball New Zealand.

1999
01:43:02,213 --> 01:43:03,733
Speaker 20: He's going to join us to talk about you know

2000
01:43:03,853 --> 01:43:06,693
Speaker 20: that and the challenges that presents with getting caught for

2001
01:43:06,733 --> 01:43:08,893
Speaker 20: all of the kids who want to play basketball. So yeah,

2002
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Speaker 20: I've bit of a mixed bag on the show this afternoon.

2003
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Speaker 2: Jace, looking forward to it, Thank you, sir. Jason Pye

2004
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Speaker 2: will be with us right after midday weekend sport kicking

2005
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Speaker 2: off right after the twelve o'clock news. Before then, we've

2006
01:43:18,013 --> 01:43:20,133
Speaker 2: got new music from Sean Mendes. It's been a long

2007
01:43:20,173 --> 01:43:22,133
Speaker 2: time coming, but it's pretty good, so looking forward to that.

2008
01:43:22,293 --> 01:43:25,973
Speaker 2: Next up, a new book from Lee Child, The latest

2009
01:43:26,093 --> 01:43:28,333
Speaker 2: Jack Reacher. All the details in a couple of minutes.

2010
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Speaker 6: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

2011
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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepewured on code on

2012
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Speaker 1: enz for high quality supplements used talks, NB.

2013
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Speaker 2: Tweeter twelve one news Talks. He'd be Katherine Rains has

2014
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Speaker 2: picked two cracking books for this weekend. Hey Katherine, Oh,

2015
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Speaker 2: hang on again, Hey Catherine Jack Sorry, I've got a

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Speaker 2: press a button sometimes and it's very complicated, okay. So

2017
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Speaker 2: first book this morning, from Here to the Great Unknown,

2018
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Speaker 2: by Lisa Marie Presley and Riley Cole.

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Speaker 21: So, Luca Marie had been working on this memo for years,

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Speaker 21: luminating history on audio tapes. Course died before she finished it,

2021
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Speaker 21: but she'd asked Riley, her daughter, to help her write

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01:44:11,613 --> 01:44:14,373
Speaker 21: the book. And so after her mother's death, she completed

2023
01:44:14,413 --> 01:44:17,013
Speaker 21: this memoir by and she fills in the gaps and

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Speaker 21: comments on her mother's thoughts, and so she gives us

2025
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Speaker 21: this really good story of Elvis as a father told

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Speaker 21: by Lisa Marie, and accounted Lisa Marie's life in her

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Speaker 21: own words, and what she was like as a mother

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Speaker 21: and a grandmother as told by Riley. So it's laid

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Speaker 21: out that as I said, Lisa Marie tells her story

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Speaker 21: and then Riley adds her.

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Speaker 22: Perspective to it.

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Speaker 21: And she was the eldest child of Lisa Marie, and

2033
01:44:39,253 --> 01:44:41,373
Speaker 21: so she was witnessed her to a lot and her

2034
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Speaker 21: viewpoints really add a lot to the story. And so

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Speaker 21: it starts with Lisa Marie's early years and bracetand with Alvis,

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Speaker 21: and she recounts how much she adored living with her

2037
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Speaker 21: father and the moments when she made him laugh, and

2038
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Speaker 21: then after his death feeling really displaced and ending up

2039
01:44:57,333 --> 01:45:00,173
Speaker 21: in Los Angeles and living with her mum, Priscilla, and

2040
01:45:00,373 --> 01:45:02,933
Speaker 21: her real rebellion during those years. Moving from school to

2041
01:45:02,933 --> 01:45:06,013
Speaker 21: school is a really recurring theme, and she struggles with addiction,

2042
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Speaker 21: and he gets stories about Michael Jackson and Nicholas Cage

2043
01:45:09,373 --> 01:45:12,813
Speaker 21: and a really heartbreaking part of the story is when

2044
01:45:12,853 --> 01:45:16,533
Speaker 21: she talks about the suicide of Riley's brother Benjamin, and

2045
01:45:16,693 --> 01:45:19,133
Speaker 21: you know, she had been drinking herself to death worrying

2046
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Speaker 21: about his son, and he'd felt responsible for his spiraling

2047
01:45:23,013 --> 01:45:25,973
Speaker 21: and drug addicted mother and the whole story that Riley

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Speaker 21: tells through this and she brings it. She has an

2049
01:45:27,853 --> 01:45:29,653
Speaker 21: excellent job of bringing her mum to life and all

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Speaker 21: his flaws and you know, and what she was like

2051
01:45:32,813 --> 01:45:36,213
Speaker 21: as a mum, and this family centered about love, and

2052
01:45:36,333 --> 01:45:39,173
Speaker 21: you know, it talks all about all of these things

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01:45:39,213 --> 01:45:41,373
Speaker 21: and her first husband, who she met as a teenager.

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Speaker 21: And I really feel like it's this quite raw and

2055
01:45:43,813 --> 01:45:47,453
Speaker 21: unstorted account of Lisa Marie's life and it's a really

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01:45:47,613 --> 01:45:49,453
Speaker 21: tragic and heartbreaking tale.

2057
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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah it does sound. It sounds really sad,

2058
01:45:52,693 --> 01:45:55,253
Speaker 2: but yeah, fascinating on the list. So that's from Here

2059
01:45:55,293 --> 01:45:57,693
Speaker 2: to the Great Online by Lisa Marie Presley and Riley Cole.

2060
01:45:58,373 --> 01:46:00,133
Speaker 2: Next up, I know a lot of people be very

2061
01:46:00,133 --> 01:46:02,213
Speaker 2: excited about this. They probably already pre ordered it in

2062
01:46:02,293 --> 01:46:05,613
Speaker 2: time for Christmas. In Too Deep by Lee Child and

2063
01:46:05,613 --> 01:46:06,653
Speaker 2: Andrew Child.

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Speaker 21: So believe it or not, this is actually the twenty

2065
01:46:09,013 --> 01:46:13,213
Speaker 21: ninth book in the Jack Reacher series. And yeah, the

2066
01:46:13,613 --> 01:46:17,693
Speaker 21: action from the start. So Jack Reacher wakes up alone

2067
01:46:17,893 --> 01:46:20,773
Speaker 21: and handcuffed in the dark in a place he doesn't know,

2068
01:46:21,493 --> 01:46:23,933
Speaker 21: and he has a serious arm injury, and he has

2069
01:46:24,133 --> 01:46:27,173
Speaker 21: no clue how he got there, and his memory is

2070
01:46:27,173 --> 01:46:30,693
Speaker 21: incredibly foggy, but he just knows that the surroundings the

2071
01:46:30,813 --> 01:46:34,093
Speaker 21: hostile and the last thing he remembers is hitching a

2072
01:46:34,173 --> 01:46:36,573
Speaker 21: ride with someone and they will run off the road.

2073
01:46:36,693 --> 01:46:40,093
Speaker 21: Otherwise nothing, And we're in the action right from the

2074
01:46:40,093 --> 01:46:43,133
Speaker 21: start as he's fighting to survive and he has short

2075
01:46:43,173 --> 01:46:45,853
Speaker 21: term memory loss, which really doesn't help him work out

2076
01:46:45,853 --> 01:46:48,733
Speaker 21: what's going on in the story and the characters around him,

2077
01:46:48,733 --> 01:46:51,253
Speaker 21: and who's a villain and who's not, and you know,

2078
01:46:51,293 --> 01:46:53,373
Speaker 21: who's telling the truth and who might not be. And

2079
01:46:53,413 --> 01:46:56,293
Speaker 21: so it's classic check creature, you know, los some observations

2080
01:46:56,333 --> 01:46:59,653
Speaker 21: and confrontations and great tactics and piecing to get it.

2081
01:46:59,693 --> 01:47:01,373
Speaker 21: The mystery of why he's been taken on what he's

2082
01:47:01,373 --> 01:47:04,493
Speaker 21: got himself into, and so those layers of confusion and

2083
01:47:04,493 --> 01:47:07,653
Speaker 21: mistrust around and so, without sporting any more of the plot,

2084
01:47:07,773 --> 01:47:11,493
Speaker 21: there's a great cast of supporting characters and some excellent villains,

2085
01:47:11,573 --> 01:47:14,493
Speaker 21: and packed with action and suspense as you would expect

2086
01:47:14,813 --> 01:47:16,013
Speaker 21: from a Jack Richer novel.

2087
01:47:16,213 --> 01:47:19,453
Speaker 2: Wonderful, Okay, It's In Too Deep by Lee Child and

2088
01:47:19,453 --> 01:47:21,773
Speaker 2: Andrew Child, Caspin's first book From Here to the Great

2089
01:47:21,813 --> 01:47:24,373
Speaker 2: Unknown by Lesson Marie Preesley, both of those, of course

2090
01:47:24,493 --> 01:47:27,053
Speaker 2: up on the News talks 'b website. It's called it

2091
01:47:27,053 --> 01:47:29,853
Speaker 2: a twelve. Sewan Mendy is next on Newstalks Z'B.

2092
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

2093
01:47:33,333 --> 01:47:36,373
Speaker 1: Us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and bpewre dot co

2094
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Speaker 1: dot Z for high quality supplements, use talks bd.

2095
01:47:54,013 --> 01:47:57,013
Speaker 2: Is Sewn Mendes Heart of Gold. He's got a new album,

2096
01:47:57,173 --> 01:47:59,453
Speaker 2: Sean by Sean Mende is a style cliff at our

2097
01:47:59,493 --> 01:48:03,253
Speaker 2: Music Review has been listening killed I'll kill that waiting.

2098
01:48:04,133 --> 01:48:07,533
Speaker 24: Yeah, absolutely, And I am actually really digging this version

2099
01:48:07,573 --> 01:48:08,413
Speaker 24: of Seawan.

2100
01:48:08,213 --> 01:48:11,333
Speaker 2: Mendes introspective Sean as opposed to pop being a Sean.

2101
01:48:11,373 --> 01:48:13,333
Speaker 24: Yeah, because actually, do you know there's times in this

2102
01:48:13,453 --> 01:48:16,853
Speaker 24: album and it's like that full like they're plugged in

2103
01:48:16,933 --> 01:48:20,453
Speaker 24: acoustic guitar, full strum, and he kind of reminds me

2104
01:48:20,613 --> 01:48:25,093
Speaker 24: of artists like Passenger Mike Rosenberg and they've got that

2105
01:48:25,133 --> 01:48:27,733
Speaker 24: sort of indie There's a bit of rock to it

2106
01:48:27,773 --> 01:48:29,413
Speaker 24: as well, and I guess when he's playing it live

2107
01:48:29,573 --> 01:48:31,213
Speaker 24: is a chance to go a little more for along

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01:48:31,253 --> 01:48:33,733
Speaker 24: with that, And I yeah, I'm kind of digging this

2109
01:48:33,773 --> 01:48:36,013
Speaker 24: for his voice. I think that this is maybe a

2110
01:48:36,093 --> 01:48:38,813
Speaker 24: route he should stay with for a bit. Yeah, right, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 24: which is quite a big call too when you've been

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01:48:40,613 --> 01:48:44,973
Speaker 24: this big pop megastar ra yeah, and then if had

2113
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Speaker 24: to step back from that. But I think that the

2114
01:48:46,733 --> 01:48:50,853
Speaker 24: vulnerability and the real personal journey and story he's writing in.

2115
01:48:50,893 --> 01:48:53,053
Speaker 11: These lyrics sit better with.

2116
01:48:53,093 --> 01:48:56,773
Speaker 24: This style of of music anyway, the indie roots kind

2117
01:48:56,813 --> 01:49:00,213
Speaker 24: of style. I don't think you would get away with

2118
01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:01,813
Speaker 24: some of the depth of the lyrics that he's going

2119
01:49:01,853 --> 01:49:05,053
Speaker 24: into if you were, yeah, if you're gonna, if you're

2120
01:49:05,053 --> 01:49:08,253
Speaker 24: gonna do this big pop dance stuff that he probably

2121
01:49:08,253 --> 01:49:11,813
Speaker 24: has done before, some real catchy rhythms. It's one of

2122
01:49:11,853 --> 01:49:16,013
Speaker 24: those albums you can get to know pretty quickly because

2123
01:49:16,053 --> 01:49:19,733
Speaker 24: of those big rhythms the melodies. There's some beautiful harmonies

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Speaker 24: that come in quiet stuff, and then it's got that

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Speaker 24: classic band you know, when there's just good drums, guitar, bass,

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Speaker 24: and you're like, yeah, this is what makes some real

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Speaker 24: good music. But then some other random stuff like every

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Speaker 24: now and then there'll be like a steel guitar, violin.

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Speaker 24: He also Sean plays the harmonium, which is like the

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Speaker 24: keys with the bellows. I think that's the best way

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01:49:43,013 --> 01:49:45,733
Speaker 24: to describe it now. He actually says that's the instrument

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Speaker 24: that he credits for returning his love of singing and

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01:49:49,093 --> 01:49:52,253
Speaker 24: also writing music. Really yeah, so if anyone doesn't know,

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Speaker 24: he had that crash and burn like a couple of

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Speaker 24: years back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty big and public. I mean he was

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Speaker 2: really open about it, absolutely what he would say about it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he just.

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Speaker 24: Got to that point, like it was about six or

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Speaker 24: seven shows into a world tour where he's like, I

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Speaker 24: actually can't do it. I can't out there and do this.

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Speaker 24: So the justice that it needs to be done, and

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01:50:09,773 --> 01:50:12,653
Speaker 24: he made that must have being a huge hard choice

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Speaker 24: to make that, but to step away and it's been

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Speaker 24: a good couple of years, so he reckons that for

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Speaker 24: a bit. An entire year. He didn't write music, he

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01:50:18,893 --> 01:50:22,093
Speaker 24: didn't really sing anything. He just was so done with

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01:50:22,133 --> 01:50:24,813
Speaker 24: it so pretty big that you can get back on

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Speaker 24: that bus, find an instrument that you're kind of playing

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01:50:28,293 --> 01:50:30,533
Speaker 24: with and being a bit eclectic with. And I think

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01:50:30,613 --> 01:50:33,453
Speaker 24: what that's given the whole sound of the album. It

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01:50:33,493 --> 01:50:35,613
Speaker 24: makes me think they're in a studio in a round,

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01:50:36,133 --> 01:50:38,853
Speaker 24: you know, on some like dimly lit the floors have

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01:50:38,893 --> 01:50:42,013
Speaker 24: got all crazy carpets all over it, and everyone's just

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01:50:42,613 --> 01:50:44,613
Speaker 24: in a circle, jamming at each other. It kind of

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01:50:44,653 --> 01:50:47,693
Speaker 24: has that quality and sound about it, which I think

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01:50:47,733 --> 01:50:49,813
Speaker 24: is what indie music kind of brings to you as well.

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01:50:49,853 --> 01:50:53,453
Speaker 24: And it sounds fun and at times that real live

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Speaker 24: recording like they've gone actually lets us go with that take.

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Speaker 2: There's a few whoops.

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Speaker 24: And handclaps and at moss crashing in the background, But

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Speaker 24: I like that. I think it gives like a sort

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01:51:03,813 --> 01:51:07,493
Speaker 24: of human human feature to the album. With some times, Yeah,

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01:51:07,653 --> 01:51:11,013
Speaker 24: that lucid jam session is opposed to let's just smooth

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Speaker 24: this all out and lose it in production. I don't

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Speaker 24: mind that, especially again with that personal storytelling venture that

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01:51:18,653 --> 01:51:20,933
Speaker 24: he's gone down and it almost apologetic and some of

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Speaker 24: his songs. The only one I think he could have

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Speaker 24: left off was his cover of Hallelujah, the same reaction

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Speaker 24: I had. Seriously, I did the same thing. I did

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Speaker 24: it too.

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01:51:35,213 --> 01:51:37,013
Speaker 2: Doesn't need another Hellelujah.

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Speaker 24: It actually doesn't.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and you know.

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01:51:41,333 --> 01:51:45,453
Speaker 24: The Hallelujahs in the other songs, so he didn't need

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01:51:45,493 --> 01:51:49,173
Speaker 24: to go there. I yeah, I'm with you on that one.

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01:51:51,213 --> 01:51:53,133
Speaker 24: That's so funny that you feel the same as me.

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Speaker 24: As soon as I got to it at the end,

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01:51:54,453 --> 01:51:56,373
Speaker 24: I was like, oh, no, no, thank you. Like I

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01:51:56,373 --> 01:51:57,853
Speaker 24: didn't really even give that a full listen.

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01:51:58,133 --> 01:52:01,413
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just think Jeff Butley nailed it,

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01:52:01,613 --> 01:52:05,853
Speaker 2: you know, and like, and it's a great song. It's

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01:52:05,893 --> 01:52:09,333
Speaker 2: a beauty song, just and I look, I'm you know,

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01:52:10,093 --> 01:52:14,373
Speaker 2: I've got a guitar at home and my wife. Sometimes,

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01:52:14,493 --> 01:52:18,733
Speaker 2: you know, there's a bit of dictates when the mood dictates, you.

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01:52:18,693 --> 01:52:21,413
Speaker 24: Know, but when you release your album, Jack, please do

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01:52:21,493 --> 01:52:27,813
Speaker 24: not put a It was a weird choice for me.

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01:52:27,893 --> 01:52:30,893
Speaker 24: After all, the other songs are definitely his and he's

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01:52:30,933 --> 01:52:33,933
Speaker 24: owned them with the melodies and the musicianship, and then

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01:52:34,013 --> 01:52:37,173
Speaker 24: that to wrap it up is kind of strange for me. Yeah,

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01:52:37,213 --> 01:52:39,853
Speaker 24: it was like, and that's not karaoke, Like his voice

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01:52:39,893 --> 01:52:41,693
Speaker 24: is different, but it sort of makes you go I

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01:52:41,733 --> 01:52:44,333
Speaker 24: just wasn't necessary. So that was a little bit of

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01:52:44,373 --> 01:52:47,533
Speaker 24: a shame. Other than that, though, I think he's navigating

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01:52:47,573 --> 01:52:50,173
Speaker 24: some big feelings on a really cool album and there's

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01:52:50,213 --> 01:52:54,373
Speaker 24: some real good clap along sing along kind of numbers

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01:52:54,373 --> 01:52:57,093
Speaker 24: on here without having to go pop tastic, which is

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01:52:57,133 --> 01:52:57,933
Speaker 24: really nice for him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm called voice.

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Speaker 2: It's an out of ten for meen sean set of ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we're just gonna have to script that definitely,

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Speaker 2: Alle no, no, I'm definitely gonna skip it, thank you

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01:53:12,933 --> 01:53:14,293
Speaker 2: very much. We're gonna have a bit all the list

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01:53:14,333 --> 01:53:15,613
Speaker 2: and we'll pick out one of those good tracks in

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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes and catch you again next week.

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Speaker 2: Stale Clifford, our music reviewer. There eight to twelve on

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 2: So good to be back with you for another Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for all of your lovely messages

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Speaker 2: throughout the morning. Yep, my family and I are all

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Speaker 2: really delighted to be adding to our family. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess watch the space wait for the adventure to

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Speaker 2: really kick off in earnest early next year. For everything

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Speaker 2: can find us on Facebook by searching Jack Tame. This afternoon,

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine is going to get things underway on News

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Speaker 2: talks 'B with Weekend Sport right after the twelve o'clock news.

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Speaker 2: Until then, my thanks to produces Shannon and Libby for

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Speaker 2: doing all the tough stuff today. And we're gonna leave

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Speaker 2: you with Sean Mendes. His latest album is called Sean

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01:54:09,453 --> 01:54:11,413
Speaker 2: and this song well this could actually be a response

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01:54:11,453 --> 01:54:14,853
Speaker 2: to his Hallelujah cover because this song is called why

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Speaker 2: Why Why see you next week?

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Speaker 4: But I went on shows myself instead. Whoa Bye, He's Mama.

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01:54:27,013 --> 01:54:37,013
Speaker 6: I don't know, don't know.

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01:54:43,933 --> 01:54:46,493
Speaker 12: That step Tuck stays with nothing else.

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01:54:48,493 --> 01:54:51,173
Speaker 22: Oh the that is you are mine?

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01:54:52,893 --> 01:54:55,613
Speaker 2: But here I am singing song again.

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Speaker 4: Wow, he's Mama. I don't know, don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Bundunay don't know this, but be father. She needed the core.

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Speaker 12: I'm still a kid.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I still cry out for mama. Wow, I don't know.

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01:56:04,933 --> 01:56:05,893
Speaker 14: Something no, don't know.

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live

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