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Speaker 1: Vincent Mecavinie is our UK correspondent this evening.

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Speaker 2: E Vincent, good morning, oh, good afternoon indeed for you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, hey listen, what was the price tag for

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Speaker 1: that Rwanda scheme that deported like absolutely no.

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Speaker 2: What seven hundred million pounds. This was a scheme that

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Speaker 2: the last government, the Conservative government, set up. They were

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Speaker 2: trying to deter the small boat's crossings in the Channel

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Speaker 2: and they struck this deal sort of based on what

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Speaker 2: Australia had done in the past decade to send people

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Speaker 2: immediately to Rwanda for processing and then they would have

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Speaker 2: ended up living in Rwanda, not here in Britain. And

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Speaker 2: they blew money obviously on hundreds of civil servants working

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Speaker 2: on it, but also chartered jets that never went anywhere

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Speaker 2: because commercial airlines refused to do this scheme, and then

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Speaker 2: setting up accommodation in Rwanda as well. The new government

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Speaker 2: has now scrapped this, but it was a pretty hefty

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Speaker 2: bill which they say over the next ten years would

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Speaker 2: have cost billions and only a few hundred people would

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Speaker 2: have been sent there and we saw with the figures

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Speaker 2: every year increasing, he wasn't deterring anyone.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Has Paris looking Is it looking okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm heading there on Friday for a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: It's really exciting to have the Games back in Europe.

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Speaker 2: It seems like they've got the preparations done pretty well.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have huge building projects. Their whole method has

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Speaker 2: been to sort of reuse refurbish previous centers that they

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Speaker 2: could use for the game. So it's not like London

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Speaker 2: where we sort of rebuilt half the East End. The

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Speaker 2: only thing they've had to do is the Olympic Village.

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Speaker 2: So they look like they're prepared. But there has been

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Speaker 2: some disquiet. A French radical left France Unbowed MP has

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Speaker 2: sparked outrage saying that Israeli athletes are not welcome in

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Speaker 2: the city, of course, following the war in Gaza, but

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Speaker 2: he's drawn sharp criticism from many of his countrymen, saying

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Speaker 2: that that is not true.

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Speaker 1: Is security quite a big concern this time around?

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Speaker 2: It?

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Speaker 1: But it often is what about this time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a big concern. We saw this in

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Speaker 2: the Euros here in the past month in Germany, where

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Speaker 2: there was strict security for the first time as well.

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Speaker 2: They had checks on their road borders in decades going

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Speaker 2: in and out of the country, and we think there's

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Speaker 2: a massive operation. In France, the opening ceremony, which is

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Speaker 2: on the Seene River, a very open event, has been

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Speaker 2: scaled back. It was going to be the whole city

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Speaker 2: could come and watch, but now it's only in designated

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Speaker 2: areas because they are concerned about security, particularly in the

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Speaker 2: wake of that war in the Middle East between Israel

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Speaker 2: and Hamatts. They think the threat level has gone up.

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Speaker 1: I see the temperatures hovering somewhere in the late twenties

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Speaker 1: at the moment, early thirties. Have you any plans for

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Speaker 1: escaping the heat while you're there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's not much you can do in

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Speaker 2: Paris in the summer. There's very little ac so it

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Speaker 2: might be a bit sticky.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be very pleasant. Now, listen, why

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Speaker 1: is it that Richie Sunek has put a deadline on

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Speaker 1: a November before when he will continue his run as

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Speaker 1: the leader of the Conservatives.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Conservatives trying to have a long process to

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Speaker 2: elect their leader of the opposition position here in the

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Speaker 2: British Parliament, and they've made this mistake in the last

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Speaker 2: time they did this process where they ended up having

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Speaker 2: Liz Truss versus Richie Sunac. It was felt like the

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Speaker 2: campaign then was a bit of a mess. So they've

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Speaker 2: wanted to take the time to set proper rules, to

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Speaker 2: let everyone recover of it from the election before they

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Speaker 2: had to get their nominations in on Wednesday. They will

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Speaker 2: then have all that time, including their party conference right

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Speaker 2: in the middle of it, to have a proper campaign,

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Speaker 2: a proper debate and talk they want about the direction

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Speaker 2: of the party and so Richie Sunac has agreed to

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Speaker 2: stay in position until the second of November when that

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Speaker 2: new person will take over. It's interesting there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of thought that if Richie Sunac had lost his seat,

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Speaker 2: for instance, he'd be on the first plane out to

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Speaker 2: California with his wife and family. He said he will

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Speaker 2: stick around. He did get re elected as an MP.

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Speaker 2: He said he will stick around. I think part of

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Speaker 2: it is wanting to combat that narrative that he's going

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Speaker 2: to disappear from these shores pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: Vincent listener was great to chea to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. I will chair you in a couple of days. Again,

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Speaker 1: that's Vincent mcaviniew UK correspondent.

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