1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: The police, as I said, have just spoken very not 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: very long ago at the Cordon Newshooks. They'd be journalist 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Jordan Done was there and was with us. Now, hey, Jordan, Hey, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: ether any idea where they're searching. 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's kind of the interesting thing about this. As 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: you said, one of the children they are talking to 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: and they say is cooperating. Well, but what the indication 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: they've got from this child is that there's no exact 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: place for it is as you were saying earlier, they're 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: saying these search is kind of a bunch of spots, 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: which is in this as you know, as you know, 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: a very dense bush area. And so they've got all 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: these people out, they got fifty police officers, they got 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: the Eagle helicopter around. I guess they're just doing everything 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: they can before it goes dark to search for these 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: two kids. 17 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: What was the impression that you got from the way 18 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: that the police were talking about whether the kids are 19 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: accompanied or not. 20 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: It sounds uncertain, I think, but they do say that 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: there's a good chance that they're alone. But the key 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: there is that they're not making any assumptions. They're going 23 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: out there as if there is the possibility that they 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: are being aided. They're going about this like there is 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: a chance that there are people who are helping them 26 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: hide perhaps, And I think all of that means that 27 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: they're going to be doing this very meticulously, very strategically, 28 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: and the off chance that that is the case, that 29 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: they aren't actually alone. 30 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and body is still the body of Tom Phillips 31 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: still lying where he was shot. 32 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We're at a Courton which is kind 33 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: of an intersection, which is on the way to Matakopa. 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: But we actually can't see the body. We can't see 35 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: the scene examination anything like that. The impression is that 36 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: it's quite a way down the road. There are police 37 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: coming and going. They arrive, was even an ambulance coming earlier. 38 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: We know it's not so associated with the children, and 39 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 2: that's what they've said. They haven't given an indication of 40 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: when it's going to leave. They just told us the 41 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: scene examination is still taking place. 42 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: What are they taken from earlier this morning? From PGG writes, And. 43 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: They were earlier they weren't actually telling us that we're 44 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: saying it was farming supplies. So they have told us 45 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: now that it appears to be clothed. It appears to be, 46 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: you know, shoes, just that sort of thing. It just 47 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: sounds like basic necessities are nothing, you know, nothing like 48 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: weapons or along er. 49 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Okay, you no other press conferences scheduled for the rest 50 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: of the day, are they. 51 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: Well, they said not not schedule at the stage. So 52 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: they said, if they do find the children, they're going 53 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: to let us know as soon as possible. So it's 54 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: the view there is a very there is a chance 55 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: that we're going to be hearing later this evening. Other 56 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: than that they're going to be searching through the night. 57 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: They tell us, hopefully we'll have an update some time tomorrow. 58 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: They're going to be doing it around author Hunger that 59 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I believe most of the police and media are being 60 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: stationed there, and that's why listen, Jordan. 61 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: Just a question. I've got a text to here saying 62 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: why don't the police take the young one, the twelve 63 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: year old, and actually go bush with her and try 64 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: to find. 65 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: The family here? The next one question? And I asked 66 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: the cops that myself, why don't you bring the kid 67 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: out here? Ask them to point out where they're going, 68 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: that sort of thing, And they didn't rule it out. 69 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: So there is the possibility that are still going to happen. 70 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: But I do want to mention that the burglary last 71 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: night was in the middle of the night, so there's 72 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 2: not the full possibility that they could point out where 73 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: it is, considering they would have list this area in 74 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: pitch darkness, and which is actually an interesting point as well. 75 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: When the police officer came upon Tom Phillips, they said 76 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: it was a complete surprise because, as I said, it 77 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: was patch black. They had no idea where they were 78 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: to have happened. 79 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Jordan, thanks very much. Make appreciate it, Jordan done. 80 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: News talk z'b journalists. Now what we have got which 81 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: is available online so you can head to the Herald's website. 82 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: You will see it. There are photographs of the scene 83 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: where Tom Phillips has died, and what you can see 84 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: from that that you're not going to see the body, 85 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: it's been blurred out, but what you are going to 86 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: see is kind of how close everything is. The shooting 87 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: was really close range. Right, This is Tom Phillips opening 88 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: fire on the police officer. And remember it's with high 89 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: powered rifle. His body, Phip Phillips's body is probably lying 90 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I reckon only five or six meters away from the 91 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: front of the police car. The police car has the 92 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: driver door open, also has the passenger door behind that open. 93 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Also has and I think you can read into this, 94 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the boot open. At least four bullets have pierced the 95 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: front window. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 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