1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Get a It's Jerry here from the Hidachey Breakfast, just 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: letting you know that if you're listening to the podcast 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: but didn't know that we also do a live radio show, 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: we do. And if you're wondering how to find out 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: what frequency to listen to us in your area, just 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: text North or South as an island to three four 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: eight three and we'll let your note and now let's 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: get on with the podcast. Guy Williams joins us on 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: the podcast today Thursday, the second of October twenty twenty five. 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in, Guy, I appreciate you. Actually that 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: little note at the beginning there I wouldn't have applied 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: to somewhere that you have recently made a television series 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: about Whymarty because they don't get Radiohadackie. So if you 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: text South, if you're living in Whymarty and you tex 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: South to three four eight three, it will say. 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Nothing christ Church Dunedin yeah, and otherwise no like although 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: if you're in Timorrow and you're up at the top 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: of Old North Ride, there is a car park there 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: where you can't catch the christ Church frequency, So you 20 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: know if you're in If you're in why media and 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: you want to listen to the show live, just drive 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: on up to tim Roads at the back of Old 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: North Road. There here'd be away. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast, guy Williams. 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: I am a white man. That's a bold opening. I 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: had to start somewhere, and I was like, I really 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: drew the audience in with that one Maniah your pronunciation, 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: and I say, this is a white man speaking to 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: a man who has beautiful tina and I assume, I 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: assume your Mali. I should have guessed the name Manyah, 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: your pronunciation of timidoo and one. And I realized how 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: it cringe. This is a white man correcting a MAULDI. 33 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Dude on this. 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, guy, you tell me how to speak. Please. 35 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm the worst person in New Zealand. I realized that 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: I'm a human piece of shit. But I gotta go. 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: It's even greating me now. And I say that as 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: someone who six months ago before I went to wine Monty. 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: We're saying why Maddi and Tim Timoru as well. 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: Yes, but what did you find when you were there? 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: How did they say. 42 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: They said it? Timaru and Wanaddi. 43 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and and I'm from there, so I think 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: we talked about it. Briefly off here. But part of 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: it is it's a it's like a colloquial nickname is 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: part of it because the full name is actually ti 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: which means you pulled that out, yeah, and timorrow is 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: t Tihiro Mudu. And these are parts of stories from 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: around the region, but they've all been shortened because look, 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: let's be honest, predominantly a white part of the country 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: these days, even so far as Kourou, which is just 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: up the road from waymnty Uh. It was originally to Kohudo, 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: but everyone called it to Kahua, and then all of 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: a sudden, now on the sign itself as that actually says. 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Well even the province, the very province, well not so 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: much because of South Canterbury whymty, but Otago Otago will 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: talk coup is that was that was the yeah, And 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: when they just mean call Targo, yeah, yeah, there it is. 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: You know the kill Mogg, which is the big hell 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: just north of Dunedin. The bay down there was called 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: kitty mook call Bay because it was to do with 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 2: the type of tattoo that they gave to people around there, 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: and so it was originally kittimokle that got bastardized down 64 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: to kill Mogg, and there's a lot of these names 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: all up and down the country. 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: That's part of it. That's part of why I call 67 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: it way medic. 68 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: The other part is when you grow up there and 69 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: it is the town with the fewest people of Maori 70 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: descenter it was when I grew up there. Yeah, there's 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 2: been a few more Sinse, but good breeders, good, great breads, 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: good breeds good in the sack. There has never been 73 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: a Mauri that's ever been bad. I stand by that, 74 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: and so now there's way more malory people down there. 75 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: There's ever been a Maori that's ever been bad in 76 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: the set. It's remarkable gay you anybody has any how 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: many how much experience have you got in this room 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: of people that have made love to people of Maori descent. Well, 79 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: I've got to be honest, I'm the only Maori I've 80 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: made love and well because of what was happening otherwise 81 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: it is your brothers and sisters. So yeah, complicated. 82 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: I've never thought of the racial ethnicity of people I've 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: made love to before, so I'd have to break that down. 84 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: But I don't know if I've ever. 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: Like you've never considered the racial ethnicity of the people 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: you've made love to. 87 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: No, I've never I've never categorized. Don't have a spreadsheet 88 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: at home, Jeremy. 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: That's all Jerry. Thanks about broken. 90 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: Breaking down by absolutely. 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: Don't you have a spreadsheet? Jerry, keep a spreadsheet anymore. 92 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: But it's all digital these days. 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: It's all online in these days. What did you what 94 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: did you find from being down there for? Because you 95 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: were there for like six weeks. 96 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: I was there for a yeah, for for a long 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: time my life. I loved it. My crew hated it. 98 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: But I just love small town New zeal I know 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: Jerry has the same effect, like small town New Zealand 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: is the best place in the world. 101 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: Well, it's just I feel like there's way less judgment 102 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: down there. You don't feel like anyone's ever I mean 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: around I being gay yeah, or moldy yeah, or riding 104 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: a bike yeah, which is pretty gay. 105 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, to ride a bike, having a well, I mean 106 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: you just be judged. I mean I personally, even in Auckland, 107 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: I ride my bike around. I'm a bit of a 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: loser and a lot of people judged before it. Just 109 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: the other day I got like a dude like screaming 110 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: at me. I've done nothing wrong. Maybe it was a 111 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: bit cheeky with my like merging and a guy screamed 112 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: at me and then he immediately calmed down when he 113 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: recognized that he recognized me, and he said, hey, guy, 114 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 3: can you not afford a car? And it's like that's 115 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: like kind of like everyday in New Zealand mentality towards 116 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: bikes as average. I was just I was just extrapolating 117 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 3: that probably yeah it's cold. 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: And in winter, Yeah, it's cold there in summer. 119 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: That's why you ride a bike to That was a 120 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: great line. It's called it was riding a bike is 121 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: what warms you up? 122 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Did you notice that? 123 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: So? 124 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: How many people reck? 125 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: I mean, first off, you're wearing a suit on the 126 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: main streets, so people are like, what's this guy? I 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: imagine there's a pretty sizable camera crew and sound guy 128 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: that are with you. So, but did people recognize you 129 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: and know who you were when you were down there? 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: I was about fifty fifty yeah, yeah, which is which 131 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: is an interesting one. But it's nice also for pill 132 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: to not because pell be afraid of me and it's 133 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 3: like people, yeah, I shouldn't be afraid, like the people 134 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: who look bad on my show janieraly Peel, who are dickheads, 135 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: and like most people I think look awesome. You know, 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: they might say a few things that are a bit off, 137 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: but generally like the people who look bad, like people 138 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: who are literally saying the N word, you know, like 139 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: literal pieces of shit. Ah well, I mean, let's we 140 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: can get to that another. I interviewed some of your 141 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: friends and yeah, it went away. 142 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: But so because I remember when I was a kid, 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: because so little happens there that Sean Fitzpatrick once came 144 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: and filmed an ad at the Wymti Hotel. Wow, And yeah, 145 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: they had to pull all the blinds because everyone was 146 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: at the windows looking at. 147 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: People at the Was it the pink first dodge? It wasn't. No, 148 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: you could for the game. He couldn't have brought that 149 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: to Why mate. I was thinking, why would you bring 150 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: that that to Why? Nah? 151 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: But I just remember that bringing the whole town to 152 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: its knees and everyone talking about it for for months afterwards. 153 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: Sean Fitzpatrick was here. You remember when Sean Fitzpatrick came 154 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: down here, and I don't think anyone famous has been 155 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: there since. So that's why I thought when you were 156 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: down there, they would have been like, ah, this is amazing. 157 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: Oh who knows. But Kaylee Bowe the legendary country. Were 158 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: you friends with her growing up or similar age? She's 159 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: killing her? 160 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a couple of I probaly shouldn't say this 161 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: something Mic probably a couple of years older than me. 162 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: I got kicked out of her twenty first by someone 163 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: because we technically didn't get invited. I think we must 164 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: have been like sixteen seventeen something like that. Meno, mate 165 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: pete and we went in there and someone's like, who 166 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: the hell invited you? 167 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Guys? Get out? Or twenty first or interesting in towns 168 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: the size of why might you? Because I mean, who 169 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: do you not invite? Well, that's that's not to be 170 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: invited to someone. 171 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, but so that's actually it's even more brutal than that. 172 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: You don't send invites out. People just hear oh there's 173 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: a twenty first going on down in the pipe band 174 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: hall over Kaylee Bell's house or whatever, and so everyone 175 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: just goes. You don't really get invited because there's only 176 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: X amount of people there. So to get kicked out 177 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: of a party that had no invites even worse not 178 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: having brutal but yeah, no, so Kaylie Bell Norman Kirk 179 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: would be the two big things that have ever come 180 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: out of one and Kyle. 181 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Boy has been stealing Norman Kirk as well. To be honest, 182 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a better crossover going on 183 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: with Wymut and Kyapoy because he was the mirror of Kayapor. 184 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: He was born in Wymut, he wasn't he, but then 185 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: moved to Kylepoy and forever since then Kyaport. Everything about 186 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: k K is Norman Kirklis Norman Bloody is not even 187 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: from the big Normals Big norm Matt. 188 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: But he is the last Prime minister in New Zealand 189 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: to die in office, which is gangster. He had a 190 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: heart attack and they were like you should probably knock 191 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: the prime minister thing on that. He's like fuck that 192 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: on going back. 193 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: And then he then he died at his disc normal 194 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: and the last prime minister to have a proper good 195 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: song written about it. A crack that's that big norm 196 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: songs that's got something. 197 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: To people to people. Do your listeners even know who 198 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: we're talking about? Yeah? Should I think so? 199 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: We've talked about Norman Kirka. But I talk about all 200 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: the time. Everyone knows big norm. 201 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: Everyone knows big Norm. No, I would say, Jeremy, your a. 202 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: You have unbelievable knowledge of small town New Zealand. And 203 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 3: be you're older now, you're still good. I don't really 204 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: break your heart. You're still gorgeous. 205 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm a lot older, there's still beautiful. 206 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: But like but I I I appreciate as well. But 207 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 3: even I'm old. Right, last week, it's someone I worked 208 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: with the other day and she didn't know who, she 209 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: didn't know about the fresh Prince of Belier. You know, 210 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: just stuff like that, and you're like, oh for me. 211 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: In New Zealand television, that show has been on every 212 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: year for the last forty years. 213 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: I reckon. We're also at an interesting time culture wise, 214 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: where people now can grow up with very very siloed, 215 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, experiences of life, whereas when Fractures we were 216 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: growing up, everything was broadcast. I saw was something that 217 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: you saw, something everyone experienced at the same time. There 218 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: was a great thing. To be honest, I'm I'll be 219 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: interested to see how that works out, how it's out 220 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: for this generation later on when they took I remember 221 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: when I was on my phone by myself six hours 222 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: a day. Yeah, and I went down a rabbit hole 223 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: of phishing videos. Yeah. You know it's not going to 224 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: be a fun conversation. 225 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I genuinely think that's one of the things that 226 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: has affected rugby and cricket popularity in New Zealand, because 227 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's not just like the main channel just goes. 228 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: You have to watch cricket against your will, whether you 229 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: want it or not, and you become a lifelong fan to. 230 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: Go seek it out. 231 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: And it's easier to find NBA or n f OL 232 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: because there's way more illegal streams of that than there 233 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: is illegal streams of Super Rugby or whatever. And that 234 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: explains why no one goes to Super Rugby anymore. 235 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: And it's a great product. Can we say that it's 236 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: a great product. NBA is a great product. 237 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think even Super Rugby is a great part. 238 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: It's not a great product, is that too? 239 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: I just need to take quick break. We'll be right there. 240 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: A man of social credit, he's got social credit. He 241 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a member of the Social Credit Party, Let's be 242 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: clear about that. That was Gary Napp and Bruce Beetham, 243 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: of course. 244 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 3: But now you've even Okay, I studied political science at university. 245 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: I'm almost forty years old, and you have even left 246 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: me behind with your knowledge of small town music. 247 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Can't You don't know Gary Napp and Bruce Beetham. 248 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: Oh good forget Gary Knapp. 249 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: It's a combination of Jerry having been in broadcasting for 250 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: the thick end of thirty years. He's constantly googling these 251 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 2: kind of things. And I suspect this mom took Tyler 252 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: old when she was pregnant. 253 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that song, I can't tell. I'll ask you this 254 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: to Jerry. Do you think that song is celebrating Big 255 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: Norm or Mockingham? 256 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I interviewed the guys who write the song actually and 257 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Great New Zealanders, and they know they love Big Norm. 258 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: It was it was a tribute to Big Norm, because. 259 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: It sounds when you listen to it now, it sounds 260 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: like they're Mockingham. Kind. 261 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was definitely. It was definitely a celebration. 262 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: Literally like take my money, take my wife. I want 263 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: to give bg Norm for my life. It's like literally 264 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: like I want to give everything to him. It talks 265 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 3: about that he's the heir of the commune. 266 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: Like it sounds like no, that was I think Commune 267 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one or whenever that was written. That 268 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: was a good thing here. 269 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, they hadn't been Waco and stuff, So I 270 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: think the only other. 271 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: Ones that there was The Ballad of Robbie Muldoon was 272 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: another one that was that was I think that was 273 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: that was negative interesting. Actually did anyone see that thing 274 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: I sent through? Sir Robert Muldone was a huge champion 275 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: of TWiki to Mali, yeah, which I was like flab 276 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: and then he did a whole thing in Todal Maori. 277 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: At the end of. 278 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: It, I was like, Wow, killed bloody nineteen eighty three 279 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: or something that. 280 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: Who would have bloody thought Norm Kirk as well, big 281 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: champion of Maori rights back in the day. 282 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: Who would have thought but that? 283 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: But that shouldn't be the way we perceive it, right. 284 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be shocking that they were no big. 285 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: Because because the issue is now we've got this fricking 286 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: American style that has seeped into New Zealand where and 287 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: it's like I interview a guy on the show where 288 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'd be honest with you, he has views, 289 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: he's an old man, he's an eighty year old white 290 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: man in one month. E like his his racial views 291 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 3: aren't always great outdated, but he was totally fluent in today. 292 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: And I just think it absolutely shook me for a 293 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: man who was like kind of at one moment like 294 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: nailing his chat about the water, the next moment peddling 295 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: like conspiracy theories about Justin da Arderne, and then he 296 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: just was fluent and molded. I was like, because back 297 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: in the day, you're allowed to be You're allowed to 298 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: pick and choose your politics from many places, whereas now 299 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: it's like if you're left, you're all this, and if 300 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: you're right, you're all this. 301 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: You know what. That's a great point, but the compartmentalization 302 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: of politics and political views is incredibly problematic. And to 303 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: criticize someone over here and then you lump all of 304 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: this other stuff on them for a critique from something 305 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: else that's right massively, or. 306 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: That if you think one thing, then you have to 307 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: think all of the things that described to that same 308 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: political view. And it's annoying because it's like, I want 309 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: to voke green, but I'm also very racist. 310 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: So where do I go? You know what I mean? 311 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: I can't This is this. 312 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: Is a little bit of audio of Sir Muldoon here 313 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: talking about the virtues of Maori language week the Prime Minister, 314 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the Right Honorable Robert Muldoon. 315 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Man Nowaka or the Mootooto. 316 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I feel pleasure. I'll tell you the way. 317 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: It's quite co mato. 318 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: The kind of waists sitting there. Yeah it was, yeah, yeah, 319 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I haven't. 320 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: It's genuinely a beautiful Would you find that this a 321 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: piece of art? 322 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: I got that for some reason that oddly came through 323 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: to my algorithm on on Instagram. Yeah, it just shocked 324 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: me a do you? 325 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you need to cancel your twelve shows you 326 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: make at the moment, and you need to make a 327 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: New Zealand history show that is also fun. You know, 328 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: you know I can see it lighting up in your eye. 329 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: I can sit down deep downside. You have the money, 330 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: you have the ability to do this. 331 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: Well. I'd like you to go to the archive, thanks 332 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: very much, Guy Williams and have a look at the 333 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Unauthorised History of New Zealand the five seasons in there. 334 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: I watched it show and I was a kid, and 335 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: most of that was not real. All of that was 336 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: not real. Nos I googled it. There was not New 337 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: Zealand's first indigenous porno. That wasn't a thing. 338 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: No, that was not true. That was not true. But 339 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I think you have five seventy five percent is real 340 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: and bang on that number seventy percent not real. Was 341 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: not really a bird? That's that was the one wing bird. 342 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: That was not because I because I because I genuinely 343 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 3: love As a comedy fan, I genuinely love that show. 344 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: But it did annoy me because when it came out, 345 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: I did think it was going to be a bit 346 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: more it was gonna be a bit more faction than 347 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: it was, and I was a little bit disappointed. 348 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: There's there's facts in there also. Can I also say 349 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: that's actually a Jason? Can I also say this, I'm 350 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: going to throw a bombshow on the podcast It's going 351 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: to Shape People. As a comedy historian, some of the 352 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: jokes on that show were potentially lifted or stolen on 353 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: that show on the anthrois History of New Zealand. 354 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: Yes scandal from a very well known British comedian called 355 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: Alan Partridge. Specifically the references to the all whites New 356 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: Zealand football team. You're commentating about a goal being scored, 357 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: and then another goal being scored when the person kicks 358 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: in another goal. It's like basically very very very similar 359 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: to an Alan Partridge routine. 360 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Possibly that's possibly true. I know who wrote that, and 361 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: and that might that might be a fair criticism, that 362 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: might be. 363 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: But what you had the person who wrote it you 364 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: and you watched Alan Partridge the night before. 365 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: I didn't write that, but I know exactly who did 366 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: and and what actually happened in those days was that 367 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: there was no YouTube, there was no Google didn't know 368 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: and so no you got tapes of things. So we 369 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: used to get sent tapes back in the day from 370 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: people who lived in England, butarticularly around Chris Morris stuff 371 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: the Brass Eye day to day, which was all amazing stuff. 372 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: That's a deep cut. I don't think many listeners in 373 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: New Zealand would know Chris Morris or Brass Eye. 374 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: When you watch Chris Morris and then you watch Eating 375 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: Media Lunch, you'll see that there's a very it's very 376 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: derivative thought of that. 377 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 2: The whole Yeah, so about the woman from the woman's 378 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: rights ack this' or whatever andthing. It's like if someone 379 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: if a man was coming at you would you beat 380 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: him off? And she's like, yes, it's if two men 381 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: were coming out, how many how many men would you 382 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: be well beat all of them off? 383 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: If I Yeah, it was incredibly derivative because we've seen 384 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: the Brass Eye day to day and once you've seen 385 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: Brass Eye, especially in those days it wasn't on New 386 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: Zealand television, and then you can't unsee it because it 387 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: was a work of pure genius. It was a work 388 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: of pure gen It still stands up. 389 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 5: Into space on episode the British Isles of the Pedophiles, 390 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 5: the Pedophilio, the pedofili is special and the if people 391 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: haven't her listeners haven't seen brass or day to day, 392 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 5: particularly Brass Eye. 393 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: It's all on YouTube. 394 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 3: Do you know. I'm embarrassed I haven't actually seen that. 395 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: I need to see that. 396 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: And it's ridiculously good and the graphics are still amazing. 397 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing. And the fact that they did 398 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: specials on crime, sex and and everything they did, and 399 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: the pedophile that was disguised as a school, the footage 400 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: that they've got of the pedophile that was disguised as 401 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: a school, and the fact that they got genuine questions 402 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: asked in parliament about cake, which was a made up 403 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: drug which they made up? 404 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: Do they make up cake? 405 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: They made up cake? 406 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 3: Because I think about cake. There's been a few of those. 407 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Cake and they were saying cake, and he got celebrities 408 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: to say cake, it's a made up drug because it 409 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: was like made up of you know, chemicals. Yeah, but 410 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: they were and people were actually they asked questions in 411 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: British Parliament, why is this not illegal? This drug called cake? 412 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: That's happened a few times. I remember. I think when 413 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: I was a kid. Jinkam was another made up drug. 414 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: I think they tripped adults into thinking the kids were 415 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: sitting into coke bottles and then using the fermented fumes 416 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: to huff that to get high. 417 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know that thing that you were talking about 418 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: with anil Mana that. 419 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: I was trying to say the name in case, but 420 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: you just don't write it there. 421 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: That was the first ever bicultural fuck fleck that we 422 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: are made up now? That got asked in parliament by 423 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: Wayne Mapp, who was the Minister for Political Correctness. The 424 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: National Party, who were in opposition in those days, had 425 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: had put forward as there guy to stop political corretness. 426 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: Because political was going out of control of New Zealand 427 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: because labor and power and and so he tabled that 428 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: in partment he asked the question, he goes, have you 429 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: seen this documentary which has been given public money by 430 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand there to make it's a it's it's a 431 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Maori pawn that's been made and it's received three million 432 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: dollars And so he we we tricked him. Yeah, think 433 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: that was a real thing. 434 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: There's there's genuinely I could see. 435 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: People way easier in those days because there's no you 436 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: couldn't google anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you saw something 437 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: you just thought, oh, that must be real. 438 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: I can't believe you guys always seem so unimpressed on 439 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: the show. But I can't believe if you guys are 440 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: more impressed by the like the heat that I was 441 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: bringing to the podcast in terms of like accusing Jerry 442 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: on plagiars. 443 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're holding his feetistic. 444 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: Worse comedic, you know. But can I just say, I'm 445 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 3: also in a glasshouse because if you look at back 446 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: at the work that I've done in my past, which 447 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: is not worth watching at least Jeremys is worth rewatching. 448 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure I've plagiarized so many things from 449 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: Jeremy's show, which is plagiaris from other shows. 450 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing everyone's plagiarizing every Yeah, no 451 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: new ideas. I made of mine told me a story 452 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: the other day. I re shared it on here, then 453 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: we put it up as a video and we've got 454 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of comments underneath it. 455 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Gun, this is Kevin Bridges bit. 456 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So it's a stand up. 457 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this is FROBM with the mono lack of 458 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: monocultures like the people you're listening, even though who Kevin Bridges. 459 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: Is Scottish comedian. You'd know him if you saw him. Yeah, 460 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: tough to understand. Good, Oh tremendous. I saw him in 461 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: a basement in Glasgow, him and Frankie Boyle. 462 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: We're there for an open mic night. 463 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: It was like, oh my fucking go, We've got the 464 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: last two tickets available there and so we was stuck 465 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: in the front row. Made made of mine from Wayman 466 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: as well, and and they just ripped the ship out 467 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: of us the whole time because I couldn't understand Kevin 468 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: Bridges and he said something to me and I was 469 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: talking to guess at the time, and I was just like, 470 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: I've seen this guy on TV before and he said 471 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: something to me and I just looked that up at him. 472 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: I thought, he said, what did you just say? 473 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: And so I've seen you on TV before and the 474 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: whole night is just think it's like, yeah, I think 475 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 2: he asked where I was from and I'll send you 476 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: on TV. 477 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, and then Frankie Boyle to it. Yeah. 478 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: Just just just to just to wrap up our conversation, though, 479 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: how would you want towns in New Zoom pronounce? Would 480 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: you do you want to pronounce why mate? If there 481 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 3: was more molded people there there was more making an effort. 482 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: I think if I think we as broadcasters this is 483 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: going to sound hypocritical, but I do think we're as 484 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: broadcasters need to guide the way in terms of how 485 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: place names are supposed. 486 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: To be pronounced. 487 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, having said that, I will continue to call it 488 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: why man. But I think as long as and like 489 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: the other thing is have a white hot crack. We 490 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: are the only multi named station Radio Hidarky, So this 491 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 2: is something that we deal with every every single day. 492 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: But if you call it Halraki, I'm not going to 493 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: nickel and dime people on it. And also if you're 494 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: going to have a crack at saying hodaki and you 495 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: call it hodaki or halidaki or whatever, I don't think 496 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: we should be having to go people who are having 497 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: a crack. 498 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I totally agree with you that, And I 499 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: don't think many people are. It's just kind of social 500 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: media amplifies it. But I think this is a key 501 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 3: argument in the old racism debate or like your you know, 502 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: your parents going a little bit off the off the 503 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: rector a little bit. It's like when you call someone 504 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: out for a minor mistake. Yeah, they then go, Okay, 505 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: well you're saying racist. I'm never going to try again again. 506 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you need. I think it's I think 507 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: what Maniah says is refreshing. But also there needs to 508 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: be a differentiation between mispronunciation and racism. Yes, now those 509 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: two things are very very different things. Yeah, because mispronunciation, 510 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: even that word pronunciation is mis pronounced all the time. Yeah, 511 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: it's not it's not pronunciation, it's pronunciation. So so like 512 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: how English is mispronounced all the time, and that and 513 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: that does not mean anything other than the fact that 514 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: you are just your lips and your brain are not 515 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: forming the word in a way that it was originally intended. 516 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: And the other thing is with English, the pronunciation of 517 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: English going back how many years do you want to stop? 518 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: And I think it was the same thing with Malori pronunciation. 519 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: If you're safe from huang and nui which pronounces huan 520 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: now huan no is how they say far no and so. 521 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: And the sound in the South Island is a sound. 522 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: So it's a complete there's there's different. 523 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 3: Dialects just showing off at this point, complicated. 524 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: And it's not racism that that's what I think where 525 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: it needs to be clear about. 526 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: Where across the fences when it's like it's New Zealand's row, 527 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: we'll never call that that. 528 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: That's see, that's completely different. 529 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: It is that's that's that's that's that's trubling. But I 530 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: want to say that I don't think Mauldy have ever 531 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: been difficult about this as well. You know the people 532 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 3: who are causing a stir dickheads like me who like 533 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: make a big deal about it all the time. But 534 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: I hate I appreciate you guys. Let me have this 535 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: conversation on your bloody podcast. 536 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: Thanks for much well, it's not thanks for coming in 537 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: and so a New Zealand tomorrow as opposed to New 538 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: Zealand Today. 539 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks very smart there. We've changed the name 540 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: very slightly. Now. 541 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: Is that because another company owns the rights to New 542 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: Zealand Today. 543 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 3: No, it was because you needed to pitch a new 544 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: show which isn't new, which is which is a new show. 545 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: We didn't want to lose the audience that we've already 546 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: built up with the reputation of New Zealand Today. But 547 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: it is a completely new show like it is. It's 548 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: more there's a little bit of actual journalism in there. 549 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: I've got your next season for you. It's just come 550 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: to me. 551 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: So you're down there in Wymany obviously, and you enjoyed 552 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: it way monthly and I think and you've had New 553 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: Zealand to day tomorrow. The logical next step is tomorrow today, 554 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: tomorrow tomorrow, third series. 555 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: I think I've been to Timadhoo already. It's one of 556 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: my favorite places in New Zealand. Caroline Bay Carnival, get 557 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: on down there. Sharon Casey once went and said she 558 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 3: saw the Top Twins sign a dog and if you're 559 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: autographing dogs, I want to that's want to be. 560 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: A part of it South. 561 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: That's a funny thing you say that because we said 562 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: our first flat was on Timorrow Road in WAYMDY. Timor 563 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: wrote and Way month And we used to have a 564 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: dog called Annie, and when we got on the piss, 565 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: someone would eventually leave, the door opened, the dog would 566 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: run down the street. So we took to writing Annie's 567 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: owner's phone number on the side of her. So she's 568 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: a Jack Russell with two one, three, four eight. It's 569 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: so good, so that when she ran off with to 570 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: get a phone call that it's one and we'll get. 571 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: Your dog's classic one history of writing on dogs in 572 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: South Cana. 573 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's insane. 574 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do another fifteen episodes on that town. 575 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a beautiful part of New Zealand And And 576 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: as a tourism ambassador, now well you said I wasn't 577 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: doing the ambassador. I think I gave one like peelpetus 578 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: to get there, Get to the Wallaby Sanctuary, check out 579 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 3: the white concrete White Horse on the hill, go eat 580 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: at the beautiful restaurants, of which there are two. 581 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: Do they want? Do they want? Tourists? Because that was 582 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: something I learned recently, when I was turning to the 583 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: mayor of Palmerston North and someone and he was saying, 584 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: we're saying, oh, you know, getting people into palmes North. 585 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: He goes, we're Palmerston North. We're a service town for 586 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: mainly for rural areas around. Tourism is not really a 587 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: thing for us, and it's going to be a thing 588 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: for us, and we don't really care about. 589 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: Towns amor fucking Palmerston North to stop bullshitting us. Anyone 590 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: who's been to that town knows that their main street 591 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: is ninety percent motels and they want people in those motels. 592 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: Parmesan North wants tourists. Do you know how I know why? 593 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: Mate wants tourists. The only thing they were known for 594 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: before I actually went there was a yellow shed on 595 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: State Hiowan begging people fucking desperate, saying, hop and visit. 596 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: There's so much to see. 597 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Over fifty friendly shops, and every time I drove past. 598 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 3: There, I thought, bullshits on. 599 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Well forty nine of them are op shops. 600 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: But that's that's what the kids are into these days. 601 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: Boom burbs and boobs. 602 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 603 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: That shape? 604 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: It's just a neurodiversity just because you don't talk fast, 605 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: you never stay on fucking topic. 606 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: What do you? 607 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: And you make everything sexual as well your horner you 608 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: didn't have, you didn't have a hand job. After the show, 609 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 3: it's been a while, I'll jacky. 610 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: Of thanks for coming and guy wait the appe. 611 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: Lada, thanks for having me. Guys, cheers,