1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks B. 3 00:00:13,173 --> 00:00:17,093 Speaker 2: Mike Hardley is our travel correspondent. He's with us this morning. 4 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:19,133 Speaker 2: Hey Mike, good morning Jack. 5 00:00:19,213 --> 00:00:21,853 Speaker 3: Just plane spotting qualifiers in Olympic Sports. 6 00:00:22,653 --> 00:00:24,693 Speaker 2: Well, have you seen the breakdancing this morning? 7 00:00:25,773 --> 00:00:27,973 Speaker 3: I've seen a bit of it. It's extraordinary. 8 00:00:28,653 --> 00:00:32,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm not just I'm not disputing that they're 9 00:00:32,693 --> 00:00:36,733 Speaker 2: really talented, but I'm also convinced about the breakdancing just yet. 10 00:00:37,533 --> 00:00:40,253 Speaker 2: And I wonder if breakdancing is a sport then, hey, 11 00:00:40,493 --> 00:00:44,293 Speaker 2: plane spotting in years to come? Gaming? You know why not? 12 00:00:44,973 --> 00:00:45,173 Speaker 3: Yes? 13 00:00:45,253 --> 00:00:45,453 Speaker 2: You know? 14 00:00:45,693 --> 00:00:50,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been watching a Singapore Lines plane which it's 15 00:00:50,933 --> 00:00:54,333 Speaker 3: been circling around christ Church for the last two hours. 16 00:00:54,493 --> 00:00:57,693 Speaker 3: Can you imagine how mind coming that must be for 17 00:00:57,733 --> 00:01:01,173 Speaker 3: the passengers? Yeah, they must have I know, they must 18 00:01:01,253 --> 00:01:03,493 Speaker 3: have a lot of fuel on board. There's been major 19 00:01:03,573 --> 00:01:07,893 Speaker 3: fol problems. That's quite a cheap so right, desperate to 20 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:12,133 Speaker 3: get this plane in And I mean obviously ultimately they'd 21 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:13,693 Speaker 3: have to pull the pin and go to walkland if 22 00:01:14,453 --> 00:01:15,533 Speaker 3: the folds clear. 23 00:01:15,573 --> 00:01:18,573 Speaker 2: But yeah, oh that's frustrating. Can they Lenda Wellington? Those 24 00:01:18,573 --> 00:01:24,573 Speaker 2: big jumbos this plane can't not too big, right. Yeah. 25 00:01:24,693 --> 00:01:28,493 Speaker 3: It's currently the most watched flight in the world on 26 00:01:29,333 --> 00:01:31,733 Speaker 3: flight Radar twenty four, so I'm not the only. 27 00:01:31,613 --> 00:01:36,093 Speaker 2: Trade Okay, yeah, very good. Ah, look the plane's botting. 28 00:01:36,133 --> 00:01:42,653 Speaker 2: Nerds unite great well. Speaking speaking of dramatic trips and experiences, 29 00:01:42,693 --> 00:01:46,413 Speaker 2: this morning, you are venturing to Valletta, right, that's how 30 00:01:46,453 --> 00:01:49,373 Speaker 2: we say Valletta in Malta. Yeah, and so along with 31 00:01:49,413 --> 00:01:51,373 Speaker 2: the capital city, I mean, Malta is one of the 32 00:01:51,413 --> 00:01:53,773 Speaker 2: most fortified countries in the world. 33 00:01:53,573 --> 00:01:57,213 Speaker 3: Right, astonishing You would not want to take them on, Jack. 34 00:01:57,373 --> 00:02:03,733 Speaker 3: There are just fortifications everywhere. They garbed cities, coastlines, harbors. 35 00:02:03,813 --> 00:02:07,693 Speaker 3: It's the most striking first impression of my when you 36 00:02:07,773 --> 00:02:12,413 Speaker 3: go there and those structures they have been successively built 37 00:02:12,453 --> 00:02:17,253 Speaker 3: and rebuilt over three thousand years, and I think it 38 00:02:17,253 --> 00:02:21,213 Speaker 3: all serves as a reminder that one strategic position in 39 00:02:21,253 --> 00:02:24,493 Speaker 3: the med has been such a coveted target for so 40 00:02:24,653 --> 00:02:27,853 Speaker 3: many powers over the centrix. But you do feel like 41 00:02:27,893 --> 00:02:29,773 Speaker 3: you're walking into a movie set in Malta. 42 00:02:30,013 --> 00:02:33,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what is so distinctive about the letter. 43 00:02:34,493 --> 00:02:36,773 Speaker 3: It is such a jewel of a city, Jack, And 44 00:02:36,893 --> 00:02:39,613 Speaker 3: I think it's once again the location because it sort 45 00:02:39,613 --> 00:02:44,213 Speaker 3: of is perched on top of this very narrow peninsula 46 00:02:44,253 --> 00:02:47,773 Speaker 3: above what they call the Grand Harbor. It's the deepest 47 00:02:47,893 --> 00:02:50,693 Speaker 3: natural harbor in the Mediterranean. It's been in use since 48 00:02:50,773 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 3: the Phoenetian era, and the city itself has been so 49 00:02:54,973 --> 00:02:59,293 Speaker 3: beautifully preserved. So you wander these cobbled streets, and the 50 00:02:59,493 --> 00:03:02,493 Speaker 3: sweet reward at the end of virtually every street is 51 00:03:02,533 --> 00:03:05,533 Speaker 3: a soul flipping view of the sea. You've got that 52 00:03:05,813 --> 00:03:10,013 Speaker 3: sapphire blue of the med contrasting with the golden butterscotch 53 00:03:10,293 --> 00:03:13,253 Speaker 3: of the city's limestone buildings. It really is amazing. And 54 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:16,293 Speaker 3: the city has got a grid street pastern of these 55 00:03:16,293 --> 00:03:21,173 Speaker 3: elegant tanhouses. Best of all, architecturally, the money shot are 56 00:03:21,173 --> 00:03:25,053 Speaker 3: the Maltese balconies. There are thousands of them, and they've 57 00:03:25,053 --> 00:03:30,613 Speaker 3: all been fully enclosed, brightly painted wooden balconies with glass windows, 58 00:03:30,653 --> 00:03:33,413 Speaker 3: and they jut off the side of every floor of 59 00:03:33,493 --> 00:03:36,693 Speaker 3: every townhouse. And the letters so that will fill your 60 00:03:36,773 --> 00:03:38,093 Speaker 3: gram Oh awesome. 61 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:39,933 Speaker 2: So tell us about Fort Saint Elmo. 62 00:03:41,133 --> 00:03:43,933 Speaker 3: Yes, Now, this fort played a huge role in the 63 00:03:43,973 --> 00:03:47,013 Speaker 3: defeats of the Ottomans when they tried to conquer Malta. 64 00:03:47,173 --> 00:03:50,893 Speaker 3: So the Knights of Saint John, they said, the Ottomans packing. 65 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:53,533 Speaker 3: But the National War Museum is at Fort Saint Elmo's 66 00:03:53,573 --> 00:03:56,893 Speaker 3: today and it does such a good job of whizzing 67 00:03:56,933 --> 00:04:00,213 Speaker 3: you through Malta's battle history. The funny thing about the 68 00:04:00,293 --> 00:04:02,893 Speaker 3: Knights is they became very corrupt and fell out of 69 00:04:02,893 --> 00:04:06,813 Speaker 3: public favor. So Napoleon Bonaparte, God bless them, sniffed an 70 00:04:06,813 --> 00:04:09,973 Speaker 3: opportunity and seized control of Malta for a while. But 71 00:04:10,053 --> 00:04:14,253 Speaker 3: then his troops started looting the treasures from the churches, 72 00:04:14,773 --> 00:04:17,693 Speaker 3: So the locals appealed to the British for help, and 73 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:21,173 Speaker 3: the Brits sent to the French packing. So there's been 74 00:04:21,213 --> 00:04:26,373 Speaker 3: this just incredible sequence of conquest on Malta. Best of all, 75 00:04:26,413 --> 00:04:30,693 Speaker 3: they played a huge role as the Mediterranean base for 76 00:04:30,733 --> 00:04:33,773 Speaker 3: the Allies during World War II, and it's that aspect 77 00:04:33,853 --> 00:04:37,973 Speaker 3: of their history that is brilliantly showcased at the museum. 78 00:04:38,013 --> 00:04:43,013 Speaker 3: That even got President Roosevelt's jeep at the museum in 79 00:04:43,133 --> 00:04:45,813 Speaker 3: the letter. So yes, some really cool stuff to check out. 80 00:04:45,973 --> 00:04:48,573 Speaker 2: Very good. Yeah, that's quirky. What draws the crowds to 81 00:04:48,573 --> 00:04:49,693 Speaker 2: Saint John's Cathedral? 82 00:04:50,573 --> 00:04:53,213 Speaker 3: Well, this is a very showing treasure and it's the 83 00:04:53,213 --> 00:04:56,133 Speaker 3: final resting place for hundreds of nights of Saint John. 84 00:04:56,133 --> 00:04:59,093 Speaker 3: They're all laid to rest beneath the marble slabs of 85 00:04:59,213 --> 00:05:03,093 Speaker 3: the floor. But every pillar, jack, every rib of that 86 00:05:03,253 --> 00:05:08,213 Speaker 3: church is just encrusted with gold. It's ridiculous. The biggest 87 00:05:08,293 --> 00:05:15,213 Speaker 3: draw of all Cardivaggio's only signed painting, his dramatic masterpiece, 88 00:05:15,253 --> 00:05:18,533 Speaker 3: The Beheading of John the Baptist. It's the largest of 89 00:05:18,573 --> 00:05:21,293 Speaker 3: all of his paintings. And the amazing thing is it 90 00:05:21,333 --> 00:05:25,573 Speaker 3: hangs inside the church, above the very spot where the 91 00:05:25,693 --> 00:05:30,853 Speaker 3: artist himself was stripped of his knighthood after he decked 92 00:05:31,213 --> 00:05:34,133 Speaker 3: a higher ranked night. Apparently Count of Vaggio was as 93 00:05:34,293 --> 00:05:38,013 Speaker 3: mad as a cut snake. But yeah, all over the letter, 94 00:05:38,093 --> 00:05:40,893 Speaker 3: the place just is drenched with history. 95 00:05:41,013 --> 00:05:44,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that is amazing. So that's not food, our 96 00:05:44,053 --> 00:05:48,133 Speaker 2: favorite subject, always the cafe scene and street food. What's 97 00:05:48,133 --> 00:05:48,453 Speaker 2: it like? 98 00:05:49,213 --> 00:05:52,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, on the go, I would be sure to 99 00:05:52,333 --> 00:05:56,453 Speaker 3: get your teeth into fitterra. It's what the locals bingon. 100 00:05:56,533 --> 00:06:04,413 Speaker 3: Faterra is this flattened sourdough bread, typically stuffed with tomato paste, tuna, caper's, onion, olives, 101 00:06:04,453 --> 00:06:07,293 Speaker 3: and peppered goat cheese. And they will just munch those 102 00:06:07,293 --> 00:06:10,933 Speaker 3: all over the city really good. I'm a walkover for 103 00:06:11,013 --> 00:06:14,173 Speaker 3: old school coffee shops. And there is this amazing cafe 104 00:06:14,213 --> 00:06:17,533 Speaker 3: called Cordina in Valeta. It's been going for about two 105 00:06:17,573 --> 00:06:20,173 Speaker 3: hundred years. They are toasted for terras are really good, 106 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:22,453 Speaker 3: by the way. But if you want some sweet treats, 107 00:06:22,533 --> 00:06:26,053 Speaker 3: go to Cafe Cordina for their date frisses. So these 108 00:06:26,053 --> 00:06:31,933 Speaker 3: are deep fried wine based dough filled with sweet dates, 109 00:06:32,093 --> 00:06:34,853 Speaker 3: very sort of Arabic sweet dates, and then served with 110 00:06:34,933 --> 00:06:37,493 Speaker 3: ice cream. They are so good. But beast of all 111 00:06:37,613 --> 00:06:42,093 Speaker 3: Jack at Cafe Cordina a slice of Diplomatica. It's a 112 00:06:42,173 --> 00:06:47,893 Speaker 3: rum soap sponge with marsipan and hazelnut cream housed between 113 00:06:48,173 --> 00:06:51,493 Speaker 3: layers of puff pastry and the top of with icing sugar. 114 00:06:51,573 --> 00:06:52,533 Speaker 3: Thank me for that later. 115 00:06:52,613 --> 00:06:56,293 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that sounds incredible. And what about the signature dishes? 116 00:06:57,253 --> 00:07:02,333 Speaker 3: Yes, three very quick mentions. Maltese blistered octopus. Now they 117 00:07:02,533 --> 00:07:05,093 Speaker 3: take the octopus and they cook it in garlic with 118 00:07:05,093 --> 00:07:09,893 Speaker 3: a tomato, olive and can composition. Babulous for the intrepid 119 00:07:10,413 --> 00:07:14,773 Speaker 3: rabbit stew is the national dish of Malta, and hot 120 00:07:14,853 --> 00:07:18,613 Speaker 3: on the heels of that traditional horse meat stew and 121 00:07:18,693 --> 00:07:20,613 Speaker 3: a red wine and time gravy. 122 00:07:21,093 --> 00:07:21,293 Speaker 2: Jack. 123 00:07:21,333 --> 00:07:23,813 Speaker 3: I have a confession. I thought I was notching on 124 00:07:23,893 --> 00:07:26,733 Speaker 3: the rabbit. It turned out to be the horse too, 125 00:07:26,933 --> 00:07:31,173 Speaker 3: but it was admittedly really delicious that time gravy. Yeah, 126 00:07:31,293 --> 00:07:31,893 Speaker 3: so good. 127 00:07:32,173 --> 00:07:36,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you didn't even I don't think I've eaten horse, 128 00:07:36,413 --> 00:07:38,573 Speaker 2: so I don't know what I have it. I shouldn't 129 00:07:38,573 --> 00:07:41,613 Speaker 2: eating rabbit a few times, but yeah, horse, yeah, I 130 00:07:41,613 --> 00:07:42,773 Speaker 2: mean why not you know? 131 00:07:42,933 --> 00:07:45,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's it. I mean I didn't know I 132 00:07:45,293 --> 00:07:47,133 Speaker 3: was having horse, but the horse was good. 133 00:07:47,213 --> 00:07:50,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Well, yeah, horse probably isn't saying that. 134 00:07:51,613 --> 00:07:53,733 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so small a I think of Malta's 135 00:07:53,733 --> 00:07:56,413 Speaker 2: being just like really good, Like could you could a 136 00:07:56,493 --> 00:07:59,613 Speaker 2: keen half marathon a kind of run around the whole island? 137 00:07:59,653 --> 00:08:01,653 Speaker 2: Is it that vibe or is it? Yeah? 138 00:08:04,093 --> 00:08:07,133 Speaker 3: That's right. And they haven't registered a metal Telly at 139 00:08:07,133 --> 00:08:08,653 Speaker 3: Paris unfortunately not yet. 140 00:08:08,933 --> 00:08:11,893 Speaker 2: Yeah right, okay, all right, very good. It sounds like 141 00:08:11,933 --> 00:08:14,813 Speaker 2: an amazing spot. I'm really envious. I would absolutely love 142 00:08:14,933 --> 00:08:17,653 Speaker 2: to visit Malta. So maybe one day, maybe one day 143 00:08:17,653 --> 00:08:20,093 Speaker 2: if they can get any planes back in. Yeah, very good, 144 00:08:20,173 --> 00:08:21,893 Speaker 2: we will catch it, so bike, thank you very much 145 00:08:21,973 --> 00:08:24,613 Speaker 2: Mike Yardley, our travel correspondent, all of his tips for 146 00:08:25,733 --> 00:08:28,773 Speaker 2: feasting your way from exploring your way through Malta and 147 00:08:28,813 --> 00:08:31,493 Speaker 2: Valletta will be up on the news Talks he'd be website, 148 00:08:31,533 --> 00:08:34,453 Speaker 2: News Talks, heedb dot co dot NZ Forward Slash Jack 149 00:08:34,853 --> 00:08:37,173 Speaker 2: is the best place to go for everything that we 150 00:08:37,213 --> 00:08:39,533 Speaker 2: talk about on our show. Before Middaytaday, we're going to 151 00:08:39,573 --> 00:08:43,333 Speaker 2: play some new music, the second album from Australian musician 152 00:08:43,533 --> 00:08:46,413 Speaker 2: Tones and I Plus we will have you book picks 153 00:08:46,413 --> 00:08:48,853 Speaker 2: for this weekend. 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