1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:17,093 --> 00:00:27,093 Speaker 2: My Friends. My friend. 4 00:00:31,253 --> 00:00:35,773 Speaker 3: That's Harry Styles. The song is called American Girls. He's 5 00:00:35,773 --> 00:00:38,533 Speaker 3: got a brand new album called Kiss All the Time 6 00:00:38,853 --> 00:00:43,533 Speaker 3: Disco Occasionally, which is a confusing title. As I've said 7 00:00:43,853 --> 00:00:47,053 Speaker 3: on multiple occasions this morning, Chris Schultz has been listening 8 00:00:47,093 --> 00:00:48,893 Speaker 3: to the album as well as This morning. Good morning, sir, 9 00:00:49,253 --> 00:00:49,893 Speaker 3: go to Jack. 10 00:00:50,173 --> 00:00:52,013 Speaker 4: You're right, I don't like that title either. 11 00:00:52,173 --> 00:00:53,733 Speaker 3: What's the deal with the title? Do we know? 12 00:00:54,613 --> 00:00:57,333 Speaker 4: It probably relates to the album cover? Right, He's got 13 00:00:57,373 --> 00:00:59,933 Speaker 4: a disco ball on there. This this is an album 14 00:00:59,933 --> 00:01:02,093 Speaker 4: that has its roots in that kind of like New 15 00:01:02,173 --> 00:01:04,853 Speaker 4: York early two thousands love scene. You could hear it 16 00:01:04,893 --> 00:01:08,733 Speaker 4: in that song. That's a bit of a thumb. He 17 00:01:08,813 --> 00:01:13,293 Speaker 4: wants this to be experienced on a on a dance floor. Yeah. 18 00:01:13,333 --> 00:01:16,453 Speaker 4: He's a man of refined tastes. How he starts, you know, 19 00:01:16,493 --> 00:01:17,973 Speaker 4: he's not a man who I think who would walk 20 00:01:18,013 --> 00:01:20,093 Speaker 4: into a coffee shop and order a double shot. Latter, 21 00:01:20,173 --> 00:01:24,573 Speaker 4: he's probably getting like a turmric later, Okay, something like that. 22 00:01:24,853 --> 00:01:27,173 Speaker 4: And you see him in the in the widely pants 23 00:01:27,213 --> 00:01:31,293 Speaker 4: and the button down Cardigan's of therapy chic. I saw someone. 24 00:01:31,173 --> 00:01:34,693 Speaker 3: Describe, Yeah, that's a good term. Yeah, Hey, I mean 25 00:01:34,733 --> 00:01:38,653 Speaker 3: he's definitely he He looks like he's always kind of 26 00:01:38,653 --> 00:01:42,373 Speaker 3: determined to be thought of as an artist. Yeah, Like 27 00:01:42,453 --> 00:01:44,493 Speaker 3: he's not just kind of going like pop pit pop 28 00:01:44,573 --> 00:01:46,933 Speaker 3: up pop, pep poppet all the time. Totally, and he 29 00:01:47,133 --> 00:01:50,293 Speaker 3: puts a lot of thought into his kind of presentation 30 00:01:50,413 --> 00:01:53,853 Speaker 3: in every sense. But yeah, I mean I was interested 31 00:01:53,893 --> 00:01:55,533 Speaker 3: when I heard that he'd kind of been listening to 32 00:01:56,013 --> 00:01:58,453 Speaker 3: LCD sound System and he'd been going to a couple 33 00:01:58,493 --> 00:02:01,693 Speaker 3: of these shows and was seeking that this inspiration. I thought, oh, 34 00:02:01,733 --> 00:02:02,533 Speaker 3: this could be a bit of me. 35 00:02:03,573 --> 00:02:06,733 Speaker 4: It is too like he's he has done what he 36 00:02:06,813 --> 00:02:08,693 Speaker 4: set out to do, which he's made this kind of 37 00:02:08,973 --> 00:02:11,253 Speaker 4: soft an album full of soft bangers. It is a 38 00:02:11,253 --> 00:02:13,813 Speaker 4: front to back listen. You do want to hear it 39 00:02:13,893 --> 00:02:16,653 Speaker 4: in full. It's an album experience. I think where the 40 00:02:16,653 --> 00:02:19,013 Speaker 4: criticism comes in is that he hasn't leaned into it 41 00:02:19,093 --> 00:02:22,973 Speaker 4: far enough. He hasn't fully immersed himself into that club 42 00:02:23,133 --> 00:02:26,733 Speaker 4: space almost. I feel like you can't help but compare 43 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:30,133 Speaker 4: this to Bruno Mars album from last week, where it's 44 00:02:30,253 --> 00:02:33,413 Speaker 4: so much honoring What's Been and Bruno Mars's sort of 45 00:02:33,413 --> 00:02:36,053 Speaker 4: seventies pop, the Jackson five, that kind of thing that 46 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:40,213 Speaker 4: it almost becomes Pastichiou doesn't add enough new things to 47 00:02:40,253 --> 00:02:43,573 Speaker 4: it to forge its own identity, and that's certainly the 48 00:02:43,573 --> 00:02:46,253 Speaker 4: case with this Harry Styles album. There are some big 49 00:02:46,293 --> 00:02:48,853 Speaker 4: songs on here. American Girl is the one everyone's listening 50 00:02:48,893 --> 00:02:52,053 Speaker 4: to right now. I love Aperture. The first single, Pop 51 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:54,693 Speaker 4: has these beautiful horns in it, and there are some 52 00:02:54,773 --> 00:02:56,853 Speaker 4: choruses in here that would sound amazing at one of 53 00:02:56,893 --> 00:03:00,533 Speaker 4: those thirty Madison Square Gardens shows he's doing, or if 54 00:03:00,573 --> 00:03:02,533 Speaker 4: you're traveling to Australia, which you'll have to do to 55 00:03:02,533 --> 00:03:06,053 Speaker 4: see him over here. But there's also moments where his 56 00:03:06,173 --> 00:03:08,933 Speaker 4: voice it just doesn't quite fit, especially on some of 57 00:03:08,973 --> 00:03:11,653 Speaker 4: the verses. It just sounds a little awkward. It's doing 58 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:15,133 Speaker 4: spoken word, almost like James Murphy does what else he 59 00:03:15,213 --> 00:03:18,573 Speaker 4: says sound system. There are these spoken word bits and 60 00:03:18,613 --> 00:03:21,933 Speaker 4: so it just doesn't quite go far enough to make 61 00:03:21,973 --> 00:03:25,653 Speaker 4: it original and new and special the whole way through. 62 00:03:25,653 --> 00:03:28,893 Speaker 4: But there are definitely moments here whether this does connect. 63 00:03:29,213 --> 00:03:31,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad there are some moments and it's funny 64 00:03:31,693 --> 00:03:33,493 Speaker 3: you say that about the voice not quite fitting, because 65 00:03:33,493 --> 00:03:35,653 Speaker 3: that's what Libby said as well. She listened to it 66 00:03:35,693 --> 00:03:37,333 Speaker 3: and she was like, Oh, it's just like it's like 67 00:03:37,453 --> 00:03:39,773 Speaker 3: he's got a good voice, like his voice isn't quite 68 00:03:39,933 --> 00:03:40,973 Speaker 3: right for it or something. 69 00:03:40,973 --> 00:03:43,133 Speaker 4: It's that tone. You know, We've spoken about these artists 70 00:03:43,173 --> 00:03:45,133 Speaker 4: like Lord and Lily Allen who are diving into their 71 00:03:45,133 --> 00:03:48,693 Speaker 4: personal lives and being super raw, and these songs feel 72 00:03:48,693 --> 00:03:51,053 Speaker 4: more like their stories. About his friends. He mentions a 73 00:03:51,053 --> 00:03:54,413 Speaker 4: lot of names American girls, that the hookahs, all my 74 00:03:54,493 --> 00:03:58,053 Speaker 4: friends are falling for American girls. Yeah, it's not about him, right, 75 00:03:58,093 --> 00:03:59,933 Speaker 4: And so I don't feel like I get to know 76 00:04:00,093 --> 00:04:03,253 Speaker 4: Harry Styles sure any better with this album. 77 00:04:03,253 --> 00:04:06,053 Speaker 3: That's not the kind of vulnerability that you might expect. Yeah, yeah, 78 00:04:06,573 --> 00:04:09,493 Speaker 3: I mean he does really noticeably kind of shift the 79 00:04:09,573 --> 00:04:12,453 Speaker 3: sound between his albums, like he's quite purposeful in doing that. 80 00:04:12,613 --> 00:04:15,893 Speaker 3: But I wonder is there he's probably beyond this being concern, 81 00:04:15,933 --> 00:04:17,813 Speaker 3: but is there a risk that he kind of ends up, 82 00:04:17,933 --> 00:04:20,253 Speaker 3: you know, isolating some of his fans or something or 83 00:04:20,373 --> 00:04:26,093 Speaker 3: not too He's seen he shows at Madison Square Garden Jack. 84 00:04:26,013 --> 00:04:28,133 Speaker 4: That he didn't even have the album out when he 85 00:04:28,133 --> 00:04:29,653 Speaker 4: did that. He sold them all out. I read the 86 00:04:29,693 --> 00:04:32,173 Speaker 4: story the other day. Yeah, I read a story about 87 00:04:32,173 --> 00:04:34,413 Speaker 4: people are renting out their couches for one hundred dollars 88 00:04:34,453 --> 00:04:37,973 Speaker 4: a night for fans who are coming to see those shows. Like, 89 00:04:38,053 --> 00:04:41,093 Speaker 4: that's how big he is when you've got these six 90 00:04:41,733 --> 00:04:43,853 Speaker 4: He's written six of the biggest pop songs in the 91 00:04:43,893 --> 00:04:46,573 Speaker 4: last ten years. They're just ubiquitous. And when you've got those, 92 00:04:46,613 --> 00:04:49,213 Speaker 4: you can it doesn't matter if new album connects or not. 93 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:52,253 Speaker 4: You can build a stadium show around. I would love 94 00:04:52,253 --> 00:04:54,413 Speaker 4: to see how he works these songs into the mix, 95 00:04:54,453 --> 00:04:56,533 Speaker 4: by the way, I think some of them would really 96 00:04:56,573 --> 00:05:00,373 Speaker 4: connect in a stadium, super loud around fans who are 97 00:05:00,453 --> 00:05:03,693 Speaker 4: like all dancing and singing along. Yeah, we won't get 98 00:05:03,693 --> 00:05:04,813 Speaker 4: that chance, unfortunately. 99 00:05:04,853 --> 00:05:07,253 Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, we won't have Okay, so what'd 100 00:05:07,293 --> 00:05:07,653 Speaker 3: you give it? 101 00:05:08,173 --> 00:05:10,493 Speaker 4: I give it three and a half starts? 102 00:05:10,613 --> 00:05:13,573 Speaker 3: Okay, all right here, that's a lad seven out of 103 00:05:13,653 --> 00:05:16,013 Speaker 3: ten if you prefer that way, all right for kiss 104 00:05:16,133 --> 00:05:18,893 Speaker 3: all the time? Just go occasionally by Harry Styles. So 105 00:05:19,133 --> 00:05:20,813 Speaker 3: we listened to a bit of aperture before we listen 106 00:05:20,813 --> 00:05:23,013 Speaker 3: to American girls will pick out pop. Maybe haven't a 107 00:05:23,013 --> 00:05:25,573 Speaker 3: bit of listen to that one and a couple of minutes. 108 00:05:25,573 --> 00:05:28,053 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Chris, you've recovered from electric. 109 00:05:27,693 --> 00:05:29,573 Speaker 4: Are No, not at all. 110 00:05:30,653 --> 00:05:32,973 Speaker 3: It's good, honestly relieving to hear you say that, given 111 00:05:32,973 --> 00:05:34,573 Speaker 3: the number of shows you go to, that maybe you 112 00:05:34,573 --> 00:05:37,013 Speaker 3: do need a little bit of a rest, a week break. 113 00:05:37,053 --> 00:05:38,973 Speaker 4: I'm going to just lie on the couch and watch 114 00:05:38,973 --> 00:05:39,373 Speaker 4: some t there. 115 00:05:39,493 --> 00:05:39,693 Speaker 1: Good. 116 00:05:39,853 --> 00:05:41,653 Speaker 3: I'm pleased to hear it. Well, thank you very much. 117 00:05:41,653 --> 00:05:43,653 Speaker 3: You can hear more from Christal Course on his substick 118 00:05:43,853 --> 00:05:46,333 Speaker 3: boiler Room, a bit more Harry Styles in a couple 119 00:05:46,333 --> 00:05:46,733 Speaker 3: of minutes. 120 00:05:47,213 --> 00:05:50,333 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 121 00:05:50,413 --> 00:05:53,253 Speaker 1: to news Talks it'd be from nine am Saturday, or 122 00:05:53,293 --> 00:05:55,213 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.