1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: global exposure like no other. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Tim Wilson, The Maximum Institute, Jack Tame, host 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: of Q and A and Saturday Mornings on ZB. Good evening, guys, 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: good evening, Good evening. What do we think, Tim, what 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: do we think about the cats? 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: Well you probably didn't hear it, but Jack was cracking 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: up because Cecilia wouldn't take your bait that you dangled 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: Ryan shooting feral cats. Now, there may or may not 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 3: be a place called Young's e Gun Shop on Dominion 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: Road that does Kalashnikov mockups fully automatic BB guns. Now, 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting that that's the thing to do. I 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: think she's trying to solve a problem that she thinks 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: she can solve. It's the micro chipping, so go for it. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: But the problem is the numbers. Micro chippings forty to 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: eighty bucks desexing fifteen bucks for a male. I know 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 3: where I'd go. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, a good point, Jack, What are you. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Poor? 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: Poor Cilia Wade Brown, I mean as well came on 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: an interview. 22 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 4: It was the casualness of which she said you like 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: shooting cats? So I was like, on this issue, I 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: can see the way your brain's working, and I love it. Look, 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: I am speaking from the perspective of someone who's made 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: some extremely ill advised comments about about cats and the 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 4: protection of birds and various measures that might help in 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: that front on morning television in the past, and as 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: a result has received about ten thousand leaders of complaint 30 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 4: and various death threats and things in the male. So 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to be very careful with my language, but 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: I am not a big fan of cats. I think 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: composory marcroshipping is a really good idea. I think you're right. 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 4: I think we could go one step further and have 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: desexing as well. I'd be personally supportive of that. And 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: I think in the right setting in rural communities when 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: it comes to feral cats not domestic cats, that yes, 38 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: sometimes those competitions they have to try and reduce the 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: feral cat numbers are a very good idea. 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because oh my goodness, see the air will cloud, 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: the air will cloud with texts. Jack tame is for 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: shooting cats. Look out, guys. 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: I just think, like, because we don't have we've got birds, basically, 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: we don't have much in the way of, you know, 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: interesting things to look at in the bush. But we've 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: got birds and we've got cats killing them, so we 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: need to kill the cats. 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 5: Quite simple, Well, I think, I mean, I think that 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 5: the theory would be that if if we do have 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 5: more micro chipping and we have more desexing, which again 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 5: I support, then hopefully we would have fewer feral cats 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 5: in the future and they would present less of a 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: risk to birds and preps. We wouldn't have to hunt 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: them as well. 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: It is thirteen away from six. Coming up next, Tim 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: Wilson and Jack Tame on the ferals at the Northern Club. 57 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Marketing of your Home. 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: Eleven to six. Tim Wilson, the Maximum Institute and Jack 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: Tame host a Q and A and Saturday mornings on 61 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: ZB Guys, that's took before we get to the Northern 62 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: Club and what the judge and the senior lawyer did 63 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: or didn't say to Winston Peter's there the easter trading thing. Obviously, 64 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: the conscience vote has gone nowhere, so easter trading won't 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: be happening anytime soon. For me, Tom, I mean, this 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: is not a religious thing or anything. It's just it's 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: nice for people to have a day after we need 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: to be shopping every day, and you can do it 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: online anyway. 70 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's true. But I guess I was thinking 71 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: about those people and obviously for me and my family 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: it's a sacred day. But for those who don't, you 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: know who who don't see it that way, and the 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: right not to work on Good Friday, that sort of 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: seemed a fairness issue, which you would think would appeal 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: to you know, kiwis love fairness. So I was quite 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: I was quite surprised by the sort of vehemence of 78 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: the response in Parliament on that conscience vote today. I 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: don't know how much conscience was being operated. Maybe there's 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: a bit of secret whipping going on. 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 5: It looks like it, Jack, What do you think, Yeah, 82 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a little surprised actually, because you know, 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: it just I feel like this issue comes up every 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 5: single year and has done for my entire lifetime. Like 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 5: it feels like that for decades now, every Easter we 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 5: have the inevitable newspaper editorials or talk back radio conversations 87 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: about why don't we allow trading. We like you say, 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 5: you can go and shop. You can go and buy 89 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: stuff on the internet, So why should you be able 90 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 5: to buy stuff on the internet but you can't go 91 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 5: down to your local garden center and pick up a 92 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 5: thing or two. So look, I was a little surprised 93 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 5: to see the vote today. I think the only way 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 5: this debate would be stopped is if they voted to 95 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 5: support easter trading. And you know, maybe we're not there 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 5: now obviously, but yeah, you know, I just I think 97 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 5: it's inevitable that come next year, once again we're going 98 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 5: to be saying, oh why and you're allowed to go 99 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 5: down to the shops. 100 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah that retail and Z said they pretty much exactly that. 101 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: I said, when's the next time you think you're going 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: to raise this issue? And she goes, well, next year, 103 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: let's talk about what happened ovan Northern. First of all, tim, 104 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: have you been to the Northern Club? What's what's it 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: like now? 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 6: And you give us as it's pretty swish and it's yeah, 107 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 6: it's not quite you know, the hallways of the powerful, 108 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: murmuring their assertions and cravats. 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: But it is. It's it's swish, it's quiet, and it's orderly. 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: So what what I mean, what we're hearing about sounds 111 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 3: like some kind of you know, orientation week brought to 112 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: the Northern Club with judges screaming out at you know, 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: the Deputy prime Minister. And you think if you flipped it, 114 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: like if there was a judge was found to be 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: screaming at, say, you know, the Deputy prime minister who 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: was a greenee. I think this was a bit of 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: politics going on here as well, where the elite, a 118 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: group of members of the elite don't like the politics 119 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: of a particular party and they're playing it out. But 120 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: but that's not leadership. That's not what leaders do. And 121 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: you were saying, you know, oh, they should boot them out. Nah, 122 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: I think actually they should be made to do the 123 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: dishes at the Northern Club for two weeks or working 124 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: with a lot of Indians. 125 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 5: Isn't it amazing that it doesn't matter what. First of all, 126 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 5: I'm glad to see that I'm the only one of 127 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 5: the three of us never to have been to the 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 5: Northern Club. 129 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: So I spoke, well, you're the one who's saying you've 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: never been to the Northern. 131 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 5: I find it just amazing. It doesn't matter. It doesn't 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 5: matter how professionally successful you are, It doesn't matter how 133 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 5: fancy your job title is. All of that stuff you 134 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 5: can still come across at a Christmas party, like what 135 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 5: was going on at this judge's party that things got 136 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: so loose? Now, you know, I think it should be 137 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 5: pointed out, is it, David Galler? 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: Is it? 139 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 5: He's so strenuously denying he made any kind of racist comment, 140 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: But you would have to say, from the details that 141 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 5: aren't being denied, it has been reported. Yeah, it's just 142 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 5: totally totally inappropriate behavior, Like you say, definitely as an 143 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 5: era of politics about it, we should have total separation 144 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 5: when it comes to the judiciary and politicians. So I 145 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 5: hope that politicians don't go too far in terms of 146 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 5: the consequences that they are demanding of this situation. But yeah, 147 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: I think hopefully we think this reflects really really poorly 148 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 5: on those a lot. 149 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. I think hopefully we can just leave 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: it there as a sort of a messy end to 151 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: the year and a bit of bit too much booze 152 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: at a Christmas party. Guys, thanks so much for being 153 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: on with me. Six minutes away from six that's Jack 154 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Tame and Tim Wilson on zb 155 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 156 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: News Talk ZEDB from four pm weekdays, or follow the 157 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio