1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Two Mormon missionaries knocked on my mum's door. 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: My parents lit them in. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 3: Heaven's Helpline is an investigation into the Church of Jesus 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: Christ of Latter day Saints the Mormons. Over six episodes. 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 3: Will hear from ex missionaries. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: I was just a full on soldier for the church 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: ex bishops. 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 4: I was trying to help them find ways of pressing 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 4: who they were attracted to. 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: And members of the church past and present. 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: He said, that was the holy guist telling you that 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: you are commanded to marry. 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: Me about keeping families together for eternity at any cost. 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: They kept insisting that I needed to forgive him. 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 5: There is nothing that you would warrant breaking up. 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: A family, and the ways that the church keeps cases 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: of abuse hushed up. 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: They did what I was supposed to do. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 5: I told my bishop a church wouldn't deliberately put a 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 5: child in harm's way another warning sign. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I just tell the. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: Help plane and they can make it all go away. 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: Is this the LDS Church abuse Helpline? 24 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: While speaking to 25 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm Murray Jones, investigative reporter for The New Zealand Herald 26 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: and host of Heaven's Helpline out soon on iHeartRadio or 27 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: wherever you get your podcasts.