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Speaker 1: Health as back as a basket case sort of scenario.

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Speaker 1: These days have been plenty of announcements one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty four million just the other day for the after

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Speaker 1: our six hundred million for FARMAK. Of course, David Will'sness

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Speaker 1: of Society National Directors wi US David, morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, good morning hera.

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Speaker 1: Are you full of hope and expectation or realism?

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Speaker 2: Well, there is some expectation that there will be boosts

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Speaker 2: in some quarters. Governments sort of hinted at that, but

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Speaker 2: hopefully it's better than last time because the last budget,

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Speaker 2: although it claimed to deliver some increases, in reality there

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Speaker 2: was underfunding in real terms, and services like to fund

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Speaker 2: it or they need more funds. They have to if

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Speaker 2: they go to deliver and meet targets. They need to

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Speaker 2: have adequate funding. Primary care is crying out for more

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Speaker 2: funding to ensure better access for services and to retain staff.

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Speaker 2: And you've got sectors like hospices that are struggling now

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Speaker 2: and despite the challenge and in fact because of the

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Speaker 2: challenges of the terms, because those areas depend very much

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Speaker 2: on donations and such like. So really all courses of

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Speaker 2: the health system need real funding increases and not just

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Speaker 2: slip service.

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Speaker 1: About is it funded. Well, of course it's funding, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's funding, but is it funding over labor or labor

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Speaker 1: over funding or just just give us everything.

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Speaker 2: Well, in terms of staffing, you need, you need funds

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Speaker 2: to be able to attract Britain and deliver. But services

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Speaker 2: can't be delivered unless there's an adequate level of funding.

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Speaker 2: And historically, historically we you know, we've got it in

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Speaker 2: many respects, we have a good health system, but it

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Speaker 2: is one that has been underfunded historically, and particularly with

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Speaker 2: recent economic challenges really hurting and public want to see services,

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Speaker 2: they need to insist that there is adequate funding appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: David will'sness a Society.

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