1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Doctor Laura fi for morning. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, Look, how are you doing? 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, wonderful, great to have you back. US President Donald 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Trump has taken the medical world by surprise, throwing some 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: pretty bold claims out there yesterday about paracetamol and how 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: it links to pregnancy and autism. What's your take on that. 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: I completely disagree with his statements. The studies that he's 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: referencing are what are poor studies, not very well conducted, 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: and the medical professional as a whole is quite outraged 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: and very disheartened that he's gotten up and said this 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: in public. But I'm very happy to talk through some 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: of those reasons why I disagree with his statements. 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Well, what did we start with? Panandole itself something we're 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: all pretty familiar with. I'd be surprised if there was 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: a kitchen anywhere in mid Canibury that didn't have at 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: least one packet of it? What actually is this and 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: how does it work? 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: So how paracetamol works, It blocks chemical messenges, And to 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: try and give you some sort of anecdote to how 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: that works is if we imagine that our nerves are 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: like highways and the chemical messengers of pain are like 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: trucks delivering that message back to the brain. How paracetamal works, 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: it sort of goes and puts a roadblock up, so 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: when we're getting somewhere that's pain, essentially what we're doing 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: is just turning down the volume on that highway, taking 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: some of those delivery trucks out of the equation so 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: that the message isn't as strong. The other way it 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: also works is that draws down a fever, and that 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: very similar way it does that is that it's just 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: decreasing the brain's awareness of these chemicals. Because our body's 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: reaction is to say, let's heat up and try and 32 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: kill off the spvirus or bacteria that's affecting us, and 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: so we'll just turn the furnace on and make it 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: really really hot. The paracetamol seriously just helps block that 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: message from the brain saying it's okay, calm down. We'll 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: just draw that through the back down again. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Is there a particular type of pain that it works 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: best on? 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Achy pains? So not so much aro inflammatory pains, those 40 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: better treated by things like ibuprofen or neurofine as we 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: more commonly call it. But certainly paracetama was good for 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: X pumps that sort of thing, but not so much inflammation. 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: So any relationship with what Trump has been not about 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: here with the consumption of panantole and what it might 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: do to yourself or things that are growing inside you. 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: It's a very very safe drug. It's been probably the 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: most researched drug by far ever. And what Trump is 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: essentially trying to say, or what the FDA has come 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: out with saying, is that there may be an association. 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: That's a really difficult thing to explain, but if I'll 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: try and sort of keep it simple, it's basically saying, 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: like if we said everyone that had a car accident 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: today brush their teeth this morning, as brushing their taste 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: the cause of the car accident, and it's sort of 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: just say, well, that's an association, but it's probably not. 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: We say causative, And that's the same thing we're saying, 57 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: is that parasedma is the only drug that pregnant women 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: can take for pain or for fever, and so while 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: it's associated, it's not causative. And so that's weird. Things 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: have gotten really wrong, and poor Trump unfortunately hasn't really 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: had that critical thinking in that space to understand how 62 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: that study actually portrays that, but paracema is extremely safe. Actually, 63 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: it's a little bit more unsafe for women to have 64 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: uncontrolled fevers. So I would recommend that women that are 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: sick that do get those bugs and flues, if their 66 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: fevers are persisting on and they're feeling really grossy with it, 67 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: it's absolutely safe and probably safer to take the parasige mold. 68 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Then to not appreciate the reassurance, there's that many other 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: things that pregnant or recently been mums have to worry about. 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: It's nice that this doesn't need to be one of them. 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, And all health professionals, midwives, doctors, we support 72 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: paracege mol. That's because we've looked at the studies, we've 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: analyzed them, and we know that it's safe and it's 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: we always want to do no harm first, very comfortable 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: in stating that we're happy for women to take within 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: the recommended guidelines paracesmal when they need it for pain 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: or for fever. Of course, we minimize all drugs and pregnancy, 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: but certainly when it's needed, you've got the flu, you've 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: got a headache, it's a good reason to take it.