1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,507 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:15,067 Speaker 2: Edb Doll Whites have gone down to nil to Finland 4 00:00:15,107 --> 00:00:17,587 Speaker 2: and their football international at Eden Park. 5 00:00:17,707 --> 00:00:19,107 Speaker 3: Here it comes off. 6 00:00:20,627 --> 00:00:24,707 Speaker 2: The opening gun a game go Spindan's way. 7 00:00:26,187 --> 00:00:31,307 Speaker 3: And it's your plan Pillow Who's scored it and he 8 00:00:31,507 --> 00:00:34,827 Speaker 3: was completely free to put the finish side a hat. 9 00:00:35,267 --> 00:00:39,147 Speaker 2: It's all right, still Finland. What the finn second goal 10 00:00:39,267 --> 00:00:42,307 Speaker 2: came late in the game to win at to nil. 11 00:00:42,547 --> 00:00:45,427 Speaker 2: New Zealand back up against Chile on Monday night at 12 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:50,307 Speaker 2: the same venue. Ivan Visilich played eighty eight A internationals 13 00:00:50,307 --> 00:00:52,947 Speaker 2: for New Zealand, the joint most in our men's history 14 00:00:53,267 --> 00:00:57,187 Speaker 2: alongside Chris Wood, including starting all three matches at the 15 00:00:57,187 --> 00:01:00,467 Speaker 2: twenty ten FIFA World Cup, the last time New Zealand 16 00:01:00,507 --> 00:01:03,427 Speaker 2: we're at a senior men's World Cup. Ivan Visilich watched 17 00:01:03,467 --> 00:01:05,587 Speaker 2: on last night and joins us now. Ivan, thanks for 18 00:01:05,627 --> 00:01:08,747 Speaker 2: taking the time your overall assessments of the All Whites 19 00:01:08,787 --> 00:01:11,547 Speaker 2: performance in the defeat by Finland last night. 20 00:01:12,987 --> 00:01:16,947 Speaker 3: Thanks having funny, good to talk to you. Look, I 21 00:01:16,947 --> 00:01:19,467 Speaker 3: think it's exactly what type of game that they wanted, 22 00:01:20,387 --> 00:01:22,787 Speaker 3: you know, playing against opposition that are ranked better than 23 00:01:22,827 --> 00:01:26,667 Speaker 3: us and higher in the ranking. Chile is also high 24 00:01:26,667 --> 00:01:28,747 Speaker 3: in the ranking, so you know, the tough game is 25 00:01:28,787 --> 00:01:31,827 Speaker 3: what they wanted and that's what they got. We saw 26 00:01:32,627 --> 00:01:36,827 Speaker 3: a difficult game for the players, not easy. Mistakes were 27 00:01:36,867 --> 00:01:40,827 Speaker 3: punished and you know it just it was a good 28 00:01:41,667 --> 00:01:44,187 Speaker 3: I think run out. They have the team back together 29 00:01:44,267 --> 00:01:47,507 Speaker 3: again against the top opposition, so again it's bought into 30 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:53,187 Speaker 3: the World Cup. It's another experience of players needed and 31 00:01:53,827 --> 00:01:55,787 Speaker 3: you know those are positives ins to take from the game. 32 00:01:56,027 --> 00:01:58,307 Speaker 2: Interesting assessment first up, because I guess people will wake 33 00:01:58,387 --> 00:01:59,907 Speaker 2: up this morning who didn't see the game and say 34 00:01:59,907 --> 00:02:02,307 Speaker 2: on he's Gon lost to Nilda Finland and they look 35 00:02:02,307 --> 00:02:04,947 Speaker 2: at the result only. But in terms of drilling deeper 36 00:02:04,947 --> 00:02:08,907 Speaker 2: into the performance and I guess the evolution of this team. 37 00:02:09,267 --> 00:02:11,507 Speaker 2: You saw definite value out there last night. 38 00:02:12,347 --> 00:02:14,827 Speaker 3: As I mentioned here, playing against high ranking opposition is 39 00:02:14,827 --> 00:02:18,227 Speaker 3: always going to be difficult. Year the scoreliner, it's not 40 00:02:18,267 --> 00:02:21,267 Speaker 3: attractive for us, but you know, watching the game and 41 00:02:21,307 --> 00:02:24,267 Speaker 3: seeing performances from the players, you know there was some 42 00:02:24,387 --> 00:02:27,027 Speaker 3: quality there. Look, I think the center backs did really well. 43 00:02:27,107 --> 00:02:29,827 Speaker 3: I think someone it should again prove that here is 44 00:02:29,867 --> 00:02:31,547 Speaker 3: a top player for us. So you know, you've got 45 00:02:31,587 --> 00:02:36,907 Speaker 3: players getting together with the group again, jelling again, you know, 46 00:02:37,107 --> 00:02:38,987 Speaker 3: on the road to the World Cup and put it 47 00:02:38,987 --> 00:02:40,227 Speaker 3: in some good performances. 48 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:42,387 Speaker 2: It seemed like they took a little walt either of 49 00:02:42,427 --> 00:02:45,627 Speaker 2: the game, and the players we spoke to afterwards admitted 50 00:02:45,627 --> 00:02:48,147 Speaker 2: that that they were a bit disappointed with the first half. 51 00:02:48,707 --> 00:02:51,067 Speaker 2: When that happens, when you're a bit flat to start 52 00:02:51,067 --> 00:02:53,987 Speaker 2: a football game, what is usually the reason for that? 53 00:02:55,827 --> 00:03:00,227 Speaker 3: It could be multiple reasons. What does that mean? They 54 00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:02,547 Speaker 3: come together two or three days before the game, they 55 00:03:02,547 --> 00:03:05,667 Speaker 3: haven't the team since the last windows, so there's a 56 00:03:05,667 --> 00:03:08,827 Speaker 3: few factors coming to jailing and the boys orso. I mean, 57 00:03:08,867 --> 00:03:10,987 Speaker 3: you know, walking out to ed a park, there's always 58 00:03:11,227 --> 00:03:13,107 Speaker 3: has a little bit of nerve to it, you know, 59 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:15,267 Speaker 3: playing in front of your family and your friends and 60 00:03:15,547 --> 00:03:18,987 Speaker 3: your country and the time to kick in. So you 61 00:03:19,027 --> 00:03:20,987 Speaker 3: know that that happened in the game. You know there 62 00:03:21,067 --> 00:03:23,947 Speaker 3: was there was mistakes here and there, but it's just 63 00:03:24,027 --> 00:03:26,347 Speaker 3: part of the game, part of growing and again watching 64 00:03:26,467 --> 00:03:28,747 Speaker 3: Ryan Thomas, you know, have some good touches on the board. 65 00:03:28,787 --> 00:03:31,707 Speaker 3: Ben Old, you know he's been in and out of 66 00:03:31,707 --> 00:03:33,547 Speaker 3: the game with a few injuries here and there, but 67 00:03:33,667 --> 00:03:35,907 Speaker 3: to see that little sparkle here and there. It's just 68 00:03:36,107 --> 00:03:38,187 Speaker 3: you know, it gives that little bit of confidence for 69 00:03:38,507 --> 00:03:42,107 Speaker 3: I thing going forward. I mean, you know the average again, Yeah, 70 00:03:42,227 --> 00:03:44,707 Speaker 3: just going to look at the score. But the reality 71 00:03:44,827 --> 00:03:47,307 Speaker 3: is we're playing against a country that has ranked higher 72 00:03:47,307 --> 00:03:49,347 Speaker 3: than us. It's going to be a very difficult game 73 00:03:49,387 --> 00:03:51,587 Speaker 3: for us. I mean just because we plant home sool 74 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:53,787 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that we have the right to want a game. 75 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:57,427 Speaker 3: The goods to the game, and you have to on 76 00:03:57,467 --> 00:03:59,467 Speaker 3: those opportunities that you get which are going to be 77 00:03:59,547 --> 00:04:02,027 Speaker 3: less because you're planning against higher ranking team. You know, 78 00:04:02,107 --> 00:04:04,907 Speaker 3: those factors are always going to be in the game. 79 00:04:05,387 --> 00:04:08,387 Speaker 2: So as the time get together to regroup and happily 80 00:04:08,427 --> 00:04:11,027 Speaker 2: they have another opportunity together on Monday night against Chile. 81 00:04:11,547 --> 00:04:13,707 Speaker 2: What do you think the main conversation points will be 82 00:04:13,827 --> 00:04:16,467 Speaker 2: as they now look ahead to another very good team 83 00:04:16,987 --> 00:04:17,787 Speaker 2: on Monday night. 84 00:04:18,427 --> 00:04:20,907 Speaker 3: A great game to plan. It has got a different 85 00:04:20,947 --> 00:04:24,587 Speaker 3: stylear football, so you know, great experience for the guys. Look, 86 00:04:24,587 --> 00:04:27,627 Speaker 3: I think they have to just focus on the positives. 87 00:04:27,707 --> 00:04:30,507 Speaker 3: You know, they are together as a team again playing 88 00:04:30,507 --> 00:04:33,187 Speaker 3: another international in New Zealand, which is great, and just 89 00:04:33,267 --> 00:04:35,627 Speaker 3: work on and understand that to try to relax and 90 00:04:35,667 --> 00:04:37,627 Speaker 3: get into the game a little bit croocker thing imaged 91 00:04:37,627 --> 00:04:40,627 Speaker 3: it took in the world to general and that's true, 92 00:04:40,667 --> 00:04:42,787 Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully they can do that. I mean, 93 00:04:42,787 --> 00:04:44,947 Speaker 3: we're probably going to see I would say, some changes 94 00:04:45,067 --> 00:04:47,427 Speaker 3: within the team just to give guys run seven ninety 95 00:04:47,467 --> 00:04:52,907 Speaker 3: minutes on the grass and hopefully look Randall, for example's 96 00:04:52,947 --> 00:04:54,947 Speaker 3: life that he came on and did really well, he 97 00:04:55,027 --> 00:04:57,907 Speaker 3: said an incredible so far we're talking to see and 98 00:04:58,787 --> 00:05:00,387 Speaker 3: you know that spark that he brought to the game 99 00:05:00,987 --> 00:05:03,787 Speaker 3: was really positive and you know, hopefully we can see 100 00:05:03,827 --> 00:05:05,187 Speaker 3: more of that from all the guys. 101 00:05:05,507 --> 00:05:09,027 Speaker 2: And yes, although that this current group is capable of 102 00:05:09,027 --> 00:05:13,307 Speaker 2: making the necessary improvements and the evolution of themselves as 103 00:05:13,307 --> 00:05:15,867 Speaker 2: a football team ahead of June. I mean, what are 104 00:05:15,907 --> 00:05:18,027 Speaker 2: we now, It's late March nearly April. Will there be 105 00:05:18,147 --> 00:05:20,667 Speaker 2: enough time and they and the limited opportunities they have 106 00:05:20,747 --> 00:05:23,627 Speaker 2: together between now and June to get to where they 107 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:24,027 Speaker 2: need to be. 108 00:05:24,867 --> 00:05:29,347 Speaker 3: It has to be not many months away. But yeah, look, 109 00:05:29,507 --> 00:05:32,027 Speaker 3: I mean if you look through the squad and you 110 00:05:32,067 --> 00:05:33,467 Speaker 3: look at the players that are going to be coming 111 00:05:33,507 --> 00:05:35,867 Speaker 3: in the ego boxes, seem to catch it. And obviously 112 00:05:35,947 --> 00:05:38,427 Speaker 3: Chris Wood to come into that sort of you know, 113 00:05:38,507 --> 00:05:40,467 Speaker 3: there is a lot of quality in that in the group, 114 00:05:40,547 --> 00:05:44,547 Speaker 3: and you know it's kind of exciting to watch to 115 00:05:44,627 --> 00:05:47,267 Speaker 3: all companies about the preparation and if we think in 116 00:05:47,307 --> 00:05:50,307 Speaker 3: the future and we we're happy and we get a 117 00:05:50,387 --> 00:05:52,307 Speaker 3: results in the first game, and when when then we 118 00:05:52,347 --> 00:05:54,707 Speaker 3: look back at these games and we so well, actually preparation. 119 00:05:55,747 --> 00:05:59,307 Speaker 3: So you know, that's football and it all goes on results. 120 00:05:59,307 --> 00:06:02,187 Speaker 3: But I think the quality is there, you know, the 121 00:06:02,227 --> 00:06:05,267 Speaker 3: players that have proven individually that they have their quality 122 00:06:05,347 --> 00:06:09,467 Speaker 3: to give us some huge amounts of joy and come. 123 00:06:09,347 --> 00:06:12,027 Speaker 2: Through and Dad and you know, these players are going 124 00:06:12,067 --> 00:06:13,827 Speaker 2: to walk apart that you did. Of course with the 125 00:06:14,387 --> 00:06:17,307 Speaker 2: all white side of twenty teen. You did a lot 126 00:06:17,387 --> 00:06:19,267 Speaker 2: in the game of Football Live and where does where 127 00:06:19,267 --> 00:06:21,667 Speaker 2: does the World Cup sit among everything else that you 128 00:06:21,947 --> 00:06:22,827 Speaker 2: achieved in the game. 129 00:06:23,147 --> 00:06:25,947 Speaker 3: It's the greatest memory that I have and a pleasure 130 00:06:25,987 --> 00:06:29,067 Speaker 3: for me to play there, so proud for and for 131 00:06:29,147 --> 00:06:31,347 Speaker 3: myself to be there. Obviously a lot of hard work 132 00:06:31,387 --> 00:06:33,147 Speaker 3: to get there, just like these globes are going through now, 133 00:06:33,147 --> 00:06:35,707 Speaker 3: a lot of hard work to get there and enjoy 134 00:06:35,787 --> 00:06:37,747 Speaker 3: the moment once they're there. But on the other side 135 00:06:37,747 --> 00:06:41,227 Speaker 3: of it, is also part of their jobs to perform 136 00:06:41,267 --> 00:06:43,787 Speaker 3: and do well, and they're going to do that. I 137 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:47,187 Speaker 3: have no doubts that they know. They have their younger 138 00:06:47,467 --> 00:06:50,747 Speaker 3: sort of looking side of experience within themselves. You know, 139 00:06:50,747 --> 00:06:53,387 Speaker 3: there's a lot of games under the about, so really 140 00:06:53,467 --> 00:06:56,667 Speaker 3: I think it's positive going forward. You know, we would 141 00:06:56,667 --> 00:07:00,147 Speaker 3: all love to have results every every window going our way, 142 00:07:00,227 --> 00:07:04,267 Speaker 3: but you know, the important partners that empty and stop 143 00:07:04,307 --> 00:07:05,787 Speaker 3: opposition gets the experience. 144 00:07:06,387 --> 00:07:09,067 Speaker 2: Do you ever relive that shot against Paraguay? And I 145 00:07:09,147 --> 00:07:10,427 Speaker 2: do ever wake up in the middle of the night, 146 00:07:10,427 --> 00:07:12,147 Speaker 2: I think it's actually gone in rather than just. 147 00:07:12,107 --> 00:07:18,147 Speaker 3: What actually itally, so I remember vividly. Yeah, of course 148 00:07:19,667 --> 00:07:22,507 Speaker 3: a little sparking moment in the game for me to 149 00:07:22,827 --> 00:07:26,387 Speaker 3: get on the scoresheet, but ously didn't happen. For some 150 00:07:26,467 --> 00:07:29,387 Speaker 3: incredible moments, great memories, you know, part of my career 151 00:07:29,427 --> 00:07:31,427 Speaker 3: that I look back on fondly. And the game is 152 00:07:31,467 --> 00:07:33,227 Speaker 3: today was great because we're able to catch up with 153 00:07:33,267 --> 00:07:36,147 Speaker 3: some of the former plans and teammates from to ten 154 00:07:36,187 --> 00:07:38,667 Speaker 3: and also excellents that were there in the ground and 155 00:07:38,747 --> 00:07:41,427 Speaker 3: turns and came together a a bit more so that 156 00:07:42,107 --> 00:07:43,507 Speaker 3: was really positive good stuff. 157 00:07:43,547 --> 00:07:46,187 Speaker 2: Thanks Evan, appreciate you joining us, Mike giving us your expertise. 158 00:07:46,267 --> 00:07:48,027 Speaker 2: Ivan visilits there, one of our greates. 159 00:07:48,707 --> 00:07:51,907 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 160 00:07:51,987 --> 00:07:55,427 Speaker 1: to News Talk Z'B weekends from midday, or follow the 161 00:07:55,427 --> 00:07:56,947 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio