1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Apparently we score as in New Zealand, we score at 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: three point three out of five as a place to die. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: We will deal with that in half an hour's time. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Right now it is fourteen away from five of Barries Soper, 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondence with US. 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Hallo, Barry, did you make that announcement just because. 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: I was nothing to do with you? But you do 8 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: sound like you're dying. 9 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Right, a bit of a croaky voice. 10 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: But I know what's wrong with you is you just 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: went for a long lunch. And you know I wasn't 12 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: correct along the booze. I wasn't suggesting it is booze, 13 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: but it was a longer than normal lunch. He's talked 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: a lot. 15 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: I did talk a lot. 16 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Yes what I've heard, Yeah, okay. Anyway, So what do 17 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: you make of Jerry cracking down on Parliament? 18 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, clearly he's had enough, hasn't he. The 19 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: standards in Parliament they've certainly been slipping. We've talked about 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: it on this program many a time. Began with Trevor 21 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Mallard and he relaxed the dress code and Parliament now 22 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: they're wearing T shirts, they're wearing sneakers, they're wearing jeans, 23 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: I mean honestly and don't forget the way that Mallard 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: treated the testers Barry Manilow and has put the sprays 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: on the front of the parliamentary lawn. Last Thursday's speech 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: by maiden speech by Areny Kuiper that essentially broke the 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: camel's back for Jerry. There'd been an agreement with the 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: Maldi party that the speech and why Arta would last 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: no longer than fifteen minutes, which is the longest you 30 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: ever have a maiden speech. For well, that went well 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: over twenty minutes and the bell was ringing all the time, 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 2: So they can thank themselves the Maldi party that Brown 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 2: is now going to try and tighten the rule. 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: Last Thursday's engagement from the gallery could have been accommodated 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: if Alreny Kuipra had stuck to the Business Committee decision. 36 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: Choosing to ignore that turns celebration into disruption. More than that, 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: it highlights of fractice and at times any equitable parliament. 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: While I firmly believe that the atmosphere in Parliament is 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: the business of its members and that standing orders should 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: accommodate good humor and reasonable banter, it's my intention that 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: from this point I will more critically apply the limited 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: measures available to a speaker to ensure greater respect to 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: show and from members one to the other and to 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: the dignity of the House and the processes of the 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: House are upheld. Later this afternoon, I intend engaging the 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: Business Committee on changes to attendance records, to dress standards 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: and to leave provisions. 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: I think that's excellent and about time, and the attendance 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: standards that'll go down like a hot billow or of culture, 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: of culture thank you with the Maori Party, There's no 51 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: doubt about that. 52 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: Because but I'm going to take what he's doing because 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: what are any kype of it did wrong? Had nothing 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: to do with attendance records and nothing to do with 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: the way that she was dressed. She was actually dress 56 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: perfectly fine, right, So he is cracking a completely different 57 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: nut to the one that he's complaining of. 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: He's talking about basically standards in Parliament that have been 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: slipping now for some years and they really have to 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: be restored. And that's what he's talking about. And that 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: was an example of the standard slipping. When Kuyper went 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: off on her own and did her own thing. 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: But it's clearly designed to target the Marti Party, isn't it? 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely performative? 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: Point the question for you why didn't he do this 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: ages ago? Because this was evidently a problem ages ago. 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: Ye, it's good, it's a good question. But it really 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: had to be done. I mean it really. 69 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: It feels like trying to trying to shut the bundle 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: when the horse was already bolted. 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you one of the horse bolts again. 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: They might be bolting out the exit. 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So what do you What does Winston 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: had to say about the Middle East? 75 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Well, the Foreign Minister, Winston Peters, he got a question 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: on developments on the Middle East and wasted no time 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: in pointing the finger. 78 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 4: The silence over the past week from some of the 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: so called pro Palestinian protesters around this country has been 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: absolutely definitely. For two years they've rented and rave, infumed 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: and fulminated about the situation in Gaza. They have the 82 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 4: mander that we do more, give more, say more, and 83 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: virtue signal more. And then over the past Vegas a 84 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: peace deal has been struck, Adios omegos as a ceasefire 85 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: has taken hold. Adios to war and welcome to peace 86 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 4: from them. Not a murder, not a murmur not a 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: civil not a sound. Anti Americanism or any other sentiment 88 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: is of no value when you're concerned about peace, and 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 4: particularly if you're some American Twitter arrived here five minutes ago. 90 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't give a concern about this country's initiative and 91 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: his peace over the years. 92 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: So who is referring to? There was an interjector, Ricardo 93 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: Mendez March, who came of course from Mexico. That was 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: the adios. 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: But he makes a good point, doesn't he. That is 96 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: just it is just radio silence from the people who've 97 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: got exactly what they wanted, which is an end to 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: the piece. 99 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 2: Well, the thing that interested me that the Labor Party, 100 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: the Greens Party, the Maldi Party, who been on their 101 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: feet all the time about the Middle East, in Palestine 102 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 2: and blah blah. Not one question they could have asked 103 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: it today of Winston Peters. Not one question came from 104 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: those quarters, just quickly. 105 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: Jim Boulger's not well, oh, just before. 106 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: I leave Winston, he's speaking the Oxford Union debate. The 107 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: end of next week has been announced to it. But 108 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: I've got that on good authority, thank you and very 109 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: sadly Jim Bolger, of course led this country for some 110 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: considerable time in the nineties. He's in the Palate of 111 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: care Ward now in Wellington Hospital and his family has 112 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: been summoned. So you know, he was a very entertaining 113 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: character and a good man to deal with when he 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: was the Prime Minister. And I was a working journo 115 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: there and. 116 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Your voice sounded a lot like it does today. Yes 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: it does, it would have or down in Parliament. Appreciate 118 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: it very so for senior political correspondent. 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 121 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 4: the podcast on iHeartRadio.