1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: So from Monday, this is to update you on stuff 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: the police are doing. From Monday, police in Auckland, Wycuto 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: and Tasman will only stay with people that have been 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: detained under the Mental Health Act for a maximum of 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: an hour sixty minutes once they're in an ed in 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: a hospital. If a person in custody is placed under 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: the Mental Health Act, they have to be transported to 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: a health facility within thirty minutes. The Assistant Commissioner for 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Police is Mike Johnson. He's looking me on the show tonight, Mike, 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: good to have you here. So how will the handover 11 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: work when someone's been sectioned, you're with them an ned? 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: How does it work? 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: How does it work? Well, we take a person exhibiting 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: mental health signs to A and E and or the 15 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: appropriate plate and from the time that we are in 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: enter A and E, WE or ED if it's described, 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: we expect to be able to can that person over 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: as long as we can do it safely, Ryan, which 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: is quite an important p piece to hand over to 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: mental health professionals who can assess and help the person 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: in need. 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Right, what happens if there's no one there available in 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: the hour you leave. 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Well, it really depends on the state of the individual. 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: I'd have to say, Ryan, We're never going to walk 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: out of the safety issues, either to police, to the public, 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: or to the staff who are going to do the assessment. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: So is however our staff. 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: Is the difference then, just so weakly is the difference 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: then that previously you would have stayed even if they 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: were harmless, if there was nothing wrong, you stayed to 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: the bitter end because that was the policy, whereas now 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: you'll make more of a judgment and if the person 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: seems okay, you'll boost. 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: It's that's absolutely the case, Okay, safe to do. So 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: We've got our staff for great and they deal with 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: these Unfortunately, with these people regularly. We want our police 38 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: on the streets and focused on call police. 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: What I guess the question would be, if you've been 40 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: picking people up who are actually fine and taking them 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: to hospital, why have you been doing that? 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't say people are fine. I come back 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: to that definition of safety, Brian, So if people are 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: affected in a range of ways. I'm not a clinician, 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: so I'm not going to go into the details of that. 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: But our staff make good assessments and we do training 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: around mental health and care of people when we get 48 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: to the hospital and are in that environment often over 49 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: time that there is an ability for people to de 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: escalate and their behaviors in their risk. 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: Are you, guys, Mike, are you happy to be not 52 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: washing your hands? And I know that's not the language 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: you would use, but will your frontline officers be happy 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: to you know, with phase one we're year not attending 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: as many of these call outs to begin with, and 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: in phase two, where you're pulling back a little bit, 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: are you happy to be focusing on other stuff? 58 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: I absolutely think that we want our police start to 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: be out dealing with the issues that the public will 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 2: expect and keeping people safe. Yeah. 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Good, I think they would too, Mike. Thank you very 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: much that Mike Johnson, who's the Assistant commissioner at Police. 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.