1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Pyne 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,907 --> 00:00:15,987 Speaker 2: News Talks EDB and Weekend Sport twelve twenty nine coming 4 00:00:15,987 --> 00:00:18,267 Speaker 2: to your live from SALEGP. Great to welcome in one 5 00:00:18,267 --> 00:00:21,027 Speaker 2: of New Zealand's most accomplished high performance sailors, a world 6 00:00:21,107 --> 00:00:23,867 Speaker 2: champion Olympian who's raced at the very top of the sport, 7 00:00:23,947 --> 00:00:26,547 Speaker 2: now on board with Artemis after making the move from 8 00:00:26,587 --> 00:00:29,947 Speaker 2: the Brazilian sale GP team ahead of this year. Known 9 00:00:30,027 --> 00:00:33,547 Speaker 2: for his calm decision making, sharp tactical mind, ability to 10 00:00:33,587 --> 00:00:37,067 Speaker 2: perform under enormous pressure, he's built a reputation as one 11 00:00:37,067 --> 00:00:39,787 Speaker 2: of the most reliable and skilled sailors on the circuit. 12 00:00:39,987 --> 00:00:43,387 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm talking about Artemis Flight controller Andy Maloney. 13 00:00:43,387 --> 00:00:45,587 Speaker 3: Hello mate, Hey Matte, how are you going very well? 14 00:00:45,627 --> 00:00:47,347 Speaker 2: Great to see you. How did the move from the 15 00:00:47,387 --> 00:00:50,187 Speaker 2: Brazilian team to Artemis Racing come about? 16 00:00:50,907 --> 00:00:53,547 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it was around halfway through last season. 17 00:00:54,027 --> 00:00:57,627 Speaker 4: Ian and Nathan sort of approached me. You know, I 18 00:00:57,667 --> 00:00:59,867 Speaker 4: had a great time helping Brazil sort of fast track 19 00:00:59,947 --> 00:01:02,627 Speaker 4: their introduction to SALEGP, but this was sort of a 20 00:01:02,667 --> 00:01:05,827 Speaker 4: natural move, joining Nathan and SALGP with everything else we're 21 00:01:05,827 --> 00:01:09,267 Speaker 4: doing together, and a super established professional sports team that I 22 00:01:09,307 --> 00:01:10,187 Speaker 4: was excited to join. 23 00:01:10,427 --> 00:01:13,587 Speaker 2: So the chance to work alongside Nathan Outradge was a 24 00:01:13,627 --> 00:01:14,707 Speaker 2: big factor in all of this. 25 00:01:15,027 --> 00:01:16,867 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that was one of the key drivers for sure. 26 00:01:16,907 --> 00:01:20,307 Speaker 2: All Right, has it been an easy transition have you? 27 00:01:20,427 --> 00:01:22,707 Speaker 2: Have you found the team an easy one to fit into. 28 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:27,667 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean they're a very professional sailing team 29 00:01:27,947 --> 00:01:30,387 Speaker 4: that compete in a lot of different sailing leagues, so 30 00:01:30,747 --> 00:01:33,347 Speaker 4: you know, everything's very refined in the background, which makes 31 00:01:33,347 --> 00:01:35,107 Speaker 4: it really easy for the sailing team to come in 32 00:01:35,627 --> 00:01:37,547 Speaker 4: and execute at a really high level from the start, 33 00:01:37,587 --> 00:01:39,307 Speaker 4: which is you know, a lot of work went in 34 00:01:39,347 --> 00:01:41,667 Speaker 4: behind the scenes ahead of Perth a few weeks back, 35 00:01:42,187 --> 00:01:43,947 Speaker 4: and we've done a lot of good work between now 36 00:01:43,947 --> 00:01:45,347 Speaker 4: and then, and hopefully we can come here and go 37 00:01:45,427 --> 00:01:46,027 Speaker 4: a couple better. 38 00:01:46,267 --> 00:01:48,067 Speaker 2: When you look back at your time with Brazil, I 39 00:01:48,107 --> 00:01:49,587 Speaker 2: know that's in the past now, but what do you 40 00:01:49,627 --> 00:01:51,907 Speaker 2: take away from your time with that team? 41 00:01:52,307 --> 00:01:52,547 Speaker 3: Yeah? 42 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:54,907 Speaker 4: For me, it was an amazing challenge as an athlete. 43 00:01:54,907 --> 00:01:57,107 Speaker 4: I think stepping into a totally different scene and trying 44 00:01:57,107 --> 00:01:59,627 Speaker 4: to help build a team from scratch, you know, it's 45 00:01:59,667 --> 00:02:02,107 Speaker 4: no easy feat within sale GP to come in with 46 00:02:02,187 --> 00:02:05,107 Speaker 4: a limited training time and you know, I think that 47 00:02:05,107 --> 00:02:08,147 Speaker 4: that team did amazingly well with a limited experience on 48 00:02:08,227 --> 00:02:11,267 Speaker 4: board as a whole. Within the team, You've seen teams 49 00:02:11,307 --> 00:02:13,107 Speaker 4: like the Black Falls when we first joined the league. 50 00:02:13,107 --> 00:02:15,147 Speaker 4: You know, it takes us a whole season to start 51 00:02:15,147 --> 00:02:17,947 Speaker 4: being able to podium and win events. So yeah, it's 52 00:02:17,987 --> 00:02:20,627 Speaker 4: no easy feat. And you know this itemis group is 53 00:02:20,667 --> 00:02:23,747 Speaker 4: a different beast having such a history within the sport 54 00:02:23,787 --> 00:02:25,787 Speaker 4: and the group of sailors they've really pulled together. There's 55 00:02:25,827 --> 00:02:27,947 Speaker 4: no reason why we can't be fighting for the podium 56 00:02:27,987 --> 00:02:28,507 Speaker 4: straight away. 57 00:02:28,947 --> 00:02:30,707 Speaker 2: What's some Nathan outeroks like? 58 00:02:31,987 --> 00:02:35,987 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's an amazing mate. He's very calm and composed 59 00:02:35,987 --> 00:02:38,107 Speaker 4: on the racetrack. And you know, I think something that 60 00:02:38,147 --> 00:02:41,747 Speaker 4: stands out about Nathan is this his colms and ability 61 00:02:41,827 --> 00:02:43,947 Speaker 4: to paint the picture really far in advance, which I 62 00:02:43,987 --> 00:02:46,507 Speaker 4: think is a really important trait at SALEGP when there's 63 00:02:46,547 --> 00:02:50,147 Speaker 4: thirteen boats on very small race tracks, absolutely. 64 00:02:49,547 --> 00:02:52,707 Speaker 2: And just on there with thirteen now, I mean it's 65 00:02:52,787 --> 00:02:56,267 Speaker 2: crowded anyway, right with thirteen? How does that change the 66 00:02:56,347 --> 00:03:00,827 Speaker 2: dynamic of what happens, particularly around the coms on the boat? 67 00:03:01,627 --> 00:03:03,627 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the coms loop is really high, and 68 00:03:03,667 --> 00:03:06,027 Speaker 4: it becomes more and more cluttered more boats that are 69 00:03:06,027 --> 00:03:08,467 Speaker 4: on the race course, so you end up having less 70 00:03:08,507 --> 00:03:11,987 Speaker 4: bandwidth for talking about speed and performance and handling, and 71 00:03:12,027 --> 00:03:14,027 Speaker 4: that sort of needs to come naturally within the team, 72 00:03:14,067 --> 00:03:15,587 Speaker 4: and you know, you've got to be able to sell 73 00:03:15,627 --> 00:03:18,427 Speaker 4: the boat at that highest level without talking about it 74 00:03:18,427 --> 00:03:20,467 Speaker 4: at all, so that the coms open up for the 75 00:03:20,987 --> 00:03:22,187 Speaker 4: tactics and the other boats. 76 00:03:22,627 --> 00:03:25,547 Speaker 2: Can I ask you some flight control questions? Slightly more 77 00:03:25,587 --> 00:03:28,387 Speaker 2: technical questions perhaps, but one I think which will resonate 78 00:03:28,387 --> 00:03:32,547 Speaker 2: with all of our audience. The system, presumably is incredibly sophisticated. 79 00:03:32,787 --> 00:03:36,027 Speaker 2: So how much is instinct and how much is automated? 80 00:03:36,867 --> 00:03:39,347 Speaker 2: You know, what's the mix? Are you? Is it maybe 81 00:03:39,387 --> 00:03:42,787 Speaker 2: what you see or is the system also telling you 82 00:03:42,827 --> 00:03:43,387 Speaker 2: what to do? 83 00:03:44,507 --> 00:03:46,787 Speaker 4: Now, there's not much you can really see from where 84 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:48,587 Speaker 4: we fly the boats. You know, we're very low down 85 00:03:48,627 --> 00:03:50,987 Speaker 4: and we're getting blocked by people in front and behind 86 00:03:51,067 --> 00:03:53,147 Speaker 4: us on board, So a lot of it comes down 87 00:03:53,187 --> 00:03:55,507 Speaker 4: to feel and the coms that you're listening to from 88 00:03:55,587 --> 00:03:57,667 Speaker 4: the other crew members on board who are like heads 89 00:03:57,707 --> 00:03:59,427 Speaker 4: out of the boat and really painting the picture with 90 00:03:59,467 --> 00:04:02,547 Speaker 4: the breeze and what's coming next. So for us, it's 91 00:04:02,547 --> 00:04:06,347 Speaker 4: a lot about anticipation and feeling the boat underneath you. 92 00:04:06,107 --> 00:04:08,707 Speaker 4: But we rely on the team around us to really 93 00:04:08,747 --> 00:04:10,227 Speaker 4: paint that picture well for us as well. 94 00:04:11,147 --> 00:04:13,067 Speaker 2: How do you keep it stable at high speed? 95 00:04:14,907 --> 00:04:17,067 Speaker 4: You do get you do get used to the high speeds. 96 00:04:18,227 --> 00:04:20,707 Speaker 4: You know, high speeds isn't too big of an issue. 97 00:04:20,707 --> 00:04:23,507 Speaker 4: It's more the sea state. So you know, in Perth 98 00:04:23,547 --> 00:04:25,267 Speaker 4: a few weeks ago there were some pretty big waves 99 00:04:25,307 --> 00:04:27,227 Speaker 4: and that was like the limit in terms of flying 100 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:29,987 Speaker 4: the boat. It was really difficult. Here in Auckland, we're 101 00:04:29,987 --> 00:04:31,947 Speaker 4: going to have different challenges. It'll be flat or water, 102 00:04:32,067 --> 00:04:34,547 Speaker 4: but it's going to be really hard hitting puffs, so 103 00:04:34,827 --> 00:04:37,987 Speaker 4: the boat's going to be accelerating and decelerating really quickly. 104 00:04:38,187 --> 00:04:41,307 Speaker 4: So the flight controllers controllers are going to have to 105 00:04:41,347 --> 00:04:44,067 Speaker 4: stay super dynamic on the controls that you've got at 106 00:04:44,067 --> 00:04:44,747 Speaker 4: your disposal. 107 00:04:45,147 --> 00:04:49,667 Speaker 2: How sensitive is it to making you know, a small error, 108 00:04:49,867 --> 00:04:51,587 Speaker 2: like if you if you're to make a small era, 109 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:52,987 Speaker 2: can that have big repercussions? 110 00:04:53,227 --> 00:04:53,787 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. 111 00:04:53,787 --> 00:04:56,227 Speaker 4: It's always just about finding that limit as to how 112 00:04:56,227 --> 00:04:58,387 Speaker 4: hard you can push it, and as a flight control, 113 00:04:58,427 --> 00:05:01,107 Speaker 4: if you push it slightly too hard in different scenarios. 114 00:05:01,347 --> 00:05:03,147 Speaker 4: The foils are going to vent and you're going to 115 00:05:03,147 --> 00:05:05,867 Speaker 4: fall out of the sky, you know, or like you 116 00:05:05,907 --> 00:05:07,747 Speaker 4: saw in Perth on our first day we had a 117 00:05:07,747 --> 00:05:10,427 Speaker 4: bad bottom mine rounding and one of our guys got injured. 118 00:05:10,427 --> 00:05:12,787 Speaker 4: So yeah, the consequences can be quite high. 119 00:05:12,827 --> 00:05:16,547 Speaker 2: Would you say you're an aggressive or conservative sailor by nature? 120 00:05:17,547 --> 00:05:20,187 Speaker 4: I think my nature is quite conservative, But I think 121 00:05:20,227 --> 00:05:22,507 Speaker 4: as a flight controller it's all about picking sort of 122 00:05:22,507 --> 00:05:25,027 Speaker 4: that risk reward balance and knowing when to push it 123 00:05:25,067 --> 00:05:27,387 Speaker 4: when you have to, and then knowing when to back 124 00:05:27,427 --> 00:05:28,427 Speaker 4: that risk off a little bit. 125 00:05:28,947 --> 00:05:31,227 Speaker 2: And I've asked a couple of others about the boats 126 00:05:31,227 --> 00:05:34,987 Speaker 2: and what their ceiling might be. It's probably impossible to know, right, 127 00:05:35,067 --> 00:05:37,107 Speaker 2: But do you think there is more potential to unlock 128 00:05:37,387 --> 00:05:38,227 Speaker 2: in the year fifties? 129 00:05:39,107 --> 00:05:39,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 130 00:05:39,707 --> 00:05:41,667 Speaker 4: With the equipment we have now, I don't think the 131 00:05:42,147 --> 00:05:45,187 Speaker 4: limit's been quite tapped into. So we're always striving to 132 00:05:45,267 --> 00:05:47,147 Speaker 4: try and find something we can do differently to the 133 00:05:47,227 --> 00:05:49,627 Speaker 4: others to make that little jump. And you know, as 134 00:05:49,707 --> 00:05:51,947 Speaker 4: a league, they're always looking to develop the gear that 135 00:05:51,987 --> 00:05:54,587 Speaker 4: we're sailing on and there's a lot further that we 136 00:05:54,627 --> 00:05:56,107 Speaker 4: can go with that as well. So the boats will 137 00:05:56,147 --> 00:05:58,907 Speaker 4: continue to get faster and higher performance. 138 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:01,427 Speaker 2: And do you have fairly ambitious goals? I mean, you know, 139 00:06:02,507 --> 00:06:05,907 Speaker 2: a Newish team, but yourself, Nathan Outrodge, when trom A 140 00:06:05,947 --> 00:06:08,187 Speaker 2: Christra on board, this is a you know, this is 141 00:06:08,187 --> 00:06:11,547 Speaker 2: a high quality crew. Do you have have ambitions perhaps 142 00:06:11,587 --> 00:06:15,187 Speaker 2: which are are further advanced than an ordinary new team 143 00:06:15,227 --> 00:06:16,187 Speaker 2: coming into the competition. 144 00:06:16,787 --> 00:06:17,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 145 00:06:18,507 --> 00:06:20,027 Speaker 4: You know, none of us are going to be satisfied 146 00:06:20,067 --> 00:06:23,267 Speaker 4: unless we're we're making those top threes at the regular 147 00:06:23,307 --> 00:06:25,107 Speaker 4: events and making that Grand Final at the end of 148 00:06:25,107 --> 00:06:27,587 Speaker 4: the year. So yeah, I think it's the same with 149 00:06:27,627 --> 00:06:29,387 Speaker 4: all the other top teams here. You know, we're striving 150 00:06:29,387 --> 00:06:30,987 Speaker 4: to get on the podium as often as we can 151 00:06:31,067 --> 00:06:33,507 Speaker 4: and to set ourselves up well for that final race. 152 00:06:33,547 --> 00:06:35,227 Speaker 2: All right, what's the weather telling us this afternoon? What 153 00:06:35,267 --> 00:06:36,667 Speaker 2: are we going to see out there this afternoon? 154 00:06:37,187 --> 00:06:38,067 Speaker 3: It's going to be awesome. 155 00:06:38,867 --> 00:06:40,907 Speaker 4: You know, as a sailor that's grown up in Auckland, 156 00:06:41,307 --> 00:06:44,147 Speaker 4: when it's a south southwestern like this and this breezy, 157 00:06:44,227 --> 00:06:46,507 Speaker 4: especially on fast boats like this, you sort of get 158 00:06:46,547 --> 00:06:48,307 Speaker 4: out of the harbor pretty quickly and you go out 159 00:06:48,307 --> 00:06:52,227 Speaker 4: to bigger spaces. So this afternoon. We're being refined to 160 00:06:52,267 --> 00:06:55,827 Speaker 4: this really small racecourse on the fastest boats and thirteen 161 00:06:55,867 --> 00:06:58,707 Speaker 4: of them, so it's going to be super exciting to watch, and. 162 00:06:59,147 --> 00:07:00,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be really cool racing. 163 00:07:00,547 --> 00:07:03,547 Speaker 4: Do you get nervous every once in a while, But 164 00:07:03,587 --> 00:07:05,227 Speaker 4: I think it's a good thing, you know, like coming 165 00:07:05,227 --> 00:07:08,867 Speaker 4: into these events super exciting, and you do get those nerves, 166 00:07:08,867 --> 00:07:10,427 Speaker 4: But by the time you get out there on the water, 167 00:07:11,427 --> 00:07:13,347 Speaker 4: you're just focusing on the next move and you get 168 00:07:13,347 --> 00:07:15,107 Speaker 4: so in the zone with what you're doing on board 169 00:07:15,147 --> 00:07:17,147 Speaker 4: that it's all sort of out the window at that stage. 170 00:07:17,267 --> 00:07:20,427 Speaker 2: And in between races, can you do much of value 171 00:07:20,427 --> 00:07:21,787 Speaker 2: as you're sitting out there, you know, waiting for the 172 00:07:21,827 --> 00:07:24,507 Speaker 2: next race, Can you do much of value in that time? 173 00:07:24,587 --> 00:07:26,067 Speaker 2: Any adjustments you can make or not? 174 00:07:26,107 --> 00:07:26,387 Speaker 3: Really? 175 00:07:26,747 --> 00:07:28,547 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've really got to make the most of that 176 00:07:28,587 --> 00:07:30,787 Speaker 4: sort of it's usually like six or seven minutes. You 177 00:07:30,827 --> 00:07:33,227 Speaker 4: have to sort of speak to your coaches in the booth, 178 00:07:33,467 --> 00:07:35,907 Speaker 4: try and get a download on maybe what the teams 179 00:07:35,907 --> 00:07:38,147 Speaker 4: that won those races did differently to yourselves and make 180 00:07:38,187 --> 00:07:40,547 Speaker 4: a few small adjustments to how you're sailing the boat. 181 00:07:41,107 --> 00:07:43,107 Speaker 4: But there's not much you can change because it's such 182 00:07:43,187 --> 00:07:45,027 Speaker 4: rapid fire racing that you've sort of got to have 183 00:07:45,027 --> 00:07:46,627 Speaker 4: done the prep before the day and just. 184 00:07:46,627 --> 00:07:49,187 Speaker 2: To finish Auckland. I mean you must, you must enjoy 185 00:07:49,307 --> 00:07:51,467 Speaker 2: being here, are you say? All around the world, you know? 186 00:07:51,547 --> 00:07:53,707 Speaker 2: But is it nice to be back? 187 00:07:54,067 --> 00:07:54,587 Speaker 3: It's awesome? 188 00:07:54,667 --> 00:07:56,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I can't wait to get out there today 189 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:59,547 Speaker 4: and to soak in that grandstand, in that atmosphere and 190 00:07:59,707 --> 00:08:01,387 Speaker 4: see all the friends and family and it's just going 191 00:08:01,467 --> 00:08:03,067 Speaker 4: to be best event of the year for sure. 192 00:08:03,147 --> 00:08:04,707 Speaker 2: I'm sure other of us will have a few fans, 193 00:08:04,827 --> 00:08:07,067 Speaker 2: even though it's not your home order. I'm sure there'll 194 00:08:07,067 --> 00:08:09,707 Speaker 2: be a few cheering for yourself and maybe Nathan as well, 195 00:08:09,707 --> 00:08:11,307 Speaker 2: although he's Australian. 196 00:08:10,867 --> 00:08:11,147 Speaker 3: Isn't he. 197 00:08:12,147 --> 00:08:15,267 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's an adopted period fair enough. 198 00:08:15,267 --> 00:08:17,347 Speaker 2: Too great to see you mate it. Thanks for stopping 199 00:08:17,347 --> 00:08:20,147 Speaker 2: and all the best for this afternoon, for tomorrow and 200 00:08:20,227 --> 00:08:20,987 Speaker 2: for the season as well. 201 00:08:21,027 --> 00:08:22,907 Speaker 3: Andy, all right, cheers justin goodness. 202 00:08:22,747 --> 00:08:25,027 Speaker 2: You made things indeed, Andy Maloney there from the Adamis 203 00:08:25,067 --> 00:08:26,027 Speaker 2: Team Flight Controller. 204 00:08:26,747 --> 00:08:29,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Pine, listen live 205 00:08:30,027 --> 00:08:33,347 Speaker 1: to news Talks at b weekends from midday, or follow 206 00:08:33,387 --> 00:08:34,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.