1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,427 Speaker 1: from Newstalk. 3 00:00:11,507 --> 00:00:16,027 Speaker 2: ZEDB black Caps trials Sri Lanka by five hundred and 4 00:00:16,187 --> 00:00:19,027 Speaker 2: eighty runs early in their first innings after two days 5 00:00:19,387 --> 00:00:22,307 Speaker 2: of the second cricket Test at Gaul, Sri Lanka eventually 6 00:00:22,347 --> 00:00:26,467 Speaker 2: declaring at six hundred and two for five, Dinesh Chandeml, 7 00:00:26,747 --> 00:00:30,547 Speaker 2: Comindu Mendus and Cousl Mendus all scoring centuries. 8 00:00:33,667 --> 00:00:35,147 Speaker 3: Take the aerial route. 9 00:00:37,107 --> 00:00:39,827 Speaker 2: And he joins the company of the creator, Sir Donald 10 00:00:39,827 --> 00:00:44,307 Speaker 2: Bradman Web that hate blow and he has declared. 11 00:00:45,027 --> 00:00:47,427 Speaker 3: And that was the moment the captain was waiting for. 12 00:00:48,307 --> 00:00:50,907 Speaker 2: Glenn Phillips, the best of New Zealand's bowlers, with three 13 00:00:50,947 --> 00:00:53,347 Speaker 2: wickets and if six hundred and two for five wasn't 14 00:00:53,347 --> 00:00:56,787 Speaker 2: bad enough, New Zealand twenty two for two In reply, 15 00:00:57,387 --> 00:01:00,587 Speaker 2: opener Tom Latham out for two, his opening partner Devon 16 00:01:00,627 --> 00:01:04,187 Speaker 2: Conway for nine. Came Williamson and night watchman A Jazz 17 00:01:04,227 --> 00:01:07,587 Speaker 2: Patel at the crease six hundred and two for five 18 00:01:07,667 --> 00:01:11,867 Speaker 2: declared plays twenty two for two after two days. Former 19 00:01:11,867 --> 00:01:14,707 Speaker 2: Black Cap but Ronnie here is with us. That's a 20 00:01:14,707 --> 00:01:18,547 Speaker 2: pretty grim looking scoreboard. Ronnie isn't it. 21 00:01:18,667 --> 00:01:22,427 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty tough work and I think they obviously blew 22 00:01:22,467 --> 00:01:24,147 Speaker 3: a lot of miss opportunities with the ball on the 23 00:01:24,147 --> 00:01:25,507 Speaker 3: first day and in the field. 24 00:01:26,947 --> 00:01:29,387 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're going to be costly, aren't they. 25 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:33,267 Speaker 2: But I don't know what did you make of New 26 00:01:33,347 --> 00:01:35,987 Speaker 2: Zealand's bowling effort six hundred and so. I know it's 27 00:01:35,987 --> 00:01:37,387 Speaker 2: a flat track and all of that. They didn't take 28 00:01:37,387 --> 00:01:40,667 Speaker 2: their opportunities, but could New Zealand have done more with 29 00:01:40,787 --> 00:01:41,867 Speaker 2: the ball and in the field. 30 00:01:43,227 --> 00:01:46,627 Speaker 3: Definitely in the field. Yeah, Like I said, with those mischances, 31 00:01:46,627 --> 00:01:50,747 Speaker 3: it becomes difficult for bowlers to maintain I guess the 32 00:01:50,827 --> 00:01:53,227 Speaker 3: energy and morale when you see miss chances happening like that, 33 00:01:53,347 --> 00:01:55,627 Speaker 3: especially in the first couple of overs when you saw 34 00:01:55,667 --> 00:01:58,347 Speaker 3: kuner Artne get dropped and then a couple of the 35 00:01:58,347 --> 00:02:00,467 Speaker 3: stumpings and bits and pieces, it just starts to deflate you. 36 00:02:00,507 --> 00:02:03,107 Speaker 3: And then when you can't get any momentum or pick 37 00:02:03,147 --> 00:02:06,147 Speaker 3: up wickets and clumps with new batsmen coming in, then 38 00:02:06,187 --> 00:02:08,787 Speaker 3: it comes very difficult. And you just saw guys who 39 00:02:08,947 --> 00:02:13,627 Speaker 3: inform for the shril Ankins obviously make make us pay. 40 00:02:14,747 --> 00:02:17,627 Speaker 2: In terms of anything that could be done differently with 41 00:02:17,827 --> 00:02:20,587 Speaker 2: bowling changes or I mean there's only I know, there's 42 00:02:20,627 --> 00:02:24,147 Speaker 2: only certain players available to Tim Southey to use, and 43 00:02:24,187 --> 00:02:25,987 Speaker 2: you are going to rely heavily on your spinners. But 44 00:02:26,187 --> 00:02:27,907 Speaker 2: I look at the guy like Ajas Pattel, who was 45 00:02:27,947 --> 00:02:30,947 Speaker 2: really effective, particularly in the second innings of the First Test, 46 00:02:30,987 --> 00:02:34,307 Speaker 2: with six fa forty one overs none for one hundred 47 00:02:34,347 --> 00:02:37,307 Speaker 2: and thirty five. Why was he so much less effective 48 00:02:37,347 --> 00:02:38,027 Speaker 2: this time around? 49 00:02:39,467 --> 00:02:42,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It did seem that he was 50 00:02:42,067 --> 00:02:44,587 Speaker 3: obviously bowling where he had his fast year rovers that's 51 00:02:44,587 --> 00:02:46,507 Speaker 3: for sure, and I think Len Philip's obviously got a 52 00:02:46,507 --> 00:02:48,587 Speaker 3: few year as well as just picking out wickets. But 53 00:02:48,987 --> 00:02:51,027 Speaker 3: I just I felt like they just couldn't keep pressure 54 00:02:51,027 --> 00:02:53,907 Speaker 3: on from both ends and in terms of age as, 55 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:55,547 Speaker 3: I think they just found a method to try and 56 00:02:55,587 --> 00:02:59,267 Speaker 3: obviously rotate strike will actually attack him and then yeah, 57 00:02:59,267 --> 00:03:01,387 Speaker 3: obviously at the other end, we're just trying to keep 58 00:03:01,387 --> 00:03:04,587 Speaker 3: pressure on. So just don't mean the bottom partnerships really well. 59 00:03:05,467 --> 00:03:07,187 Speaker 3: And then yeah, soon as they sort of got a 60 00:03:07,267 --> 00:03:09,667 Speaker 3: roll on, it just become difficult to sort of break 61 00:03:09,707 --> 00:03:10,627 Speaker 3: the partnerships. Really. 62 00:03:11,267 --> 00:03:13,187 Speaker 2: I know Willow Rourks early in his Test career, but 63 00:03:13,227 --> 00:03:15,027 Speaker 2: he was really effective in the first Test as well, 64 00:03:15,267 --> 00:03:17,627 Speaker 2: eight wickets across the two innings and that was only 65 00:03:17,667 --> 00:03:21,027 Speaker 2: I think thirty five overs across the two innings. No 66 00:03:21,427 --> 00:03:24,867 Speaker 2: joy for willow Rourk this time again. Was he just 67 00:03:25,547 --> 00:03:28,267 Speaker 2: negotiated better by this Lankan batsman this time? 68 00:03:29,187 --> 00:03:30,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say so. I mean that we were sight 69 00:03:30,587 --> 00:03:34,547 Speaker 3: unseen that first Test, so they probably counted a little 70 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:39,147 Speaker 3: bit more bounty is obviously very tall, tall bowler, so yeah, 71 00:03:39,147 --> 00:03:42,267 Speaker 3: a little bit more bounce of this. Lankans probably didn't 72 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:46,427 Speaker 3: they were expecting that. And then yeah, they did the 73 00:03:46,507 --> 00:03:50,547 Speaker 3: scouting between the two Test matches, and I think in 74 00:03:50,667 --> 00:03:53,307 Speaker 3: terms of management and workload for people that wellow rook, 75 00:03:53,347 --> 00:03:55,627 Speaker 3: he's obviously got probably you know, I think it's at 76 00:03:55,707 --> 00:03:58,067 Speaker 3: least three Tests in India, so they would also balanced 77 00:03:58,067 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 3: that out too. 78 00:03:59,467 --> 00:04:01,387 Speaker 2: When you are in the field like that and you're 79 00:04:01,387 --> 00:04:03,547 Speaker 2: not getting wickets and the runs are piling up, and 80 00:04:03,587 --> 00:04:07,347 Speaker 2: you're going a long time between you know, positive moments, 81 00:04:07,707 --> 00:04:11,787 Speaker 2: how do you stay energetic? How do you stay up 82 00:04:11,827 --> 00:04:12,667 Speaker 2: and about. 83 00:04:13,907 --> 00:04:17,547 Speaker 3: Tough? It's tough usually guided somewhat by the by the 84 00:04:17,547 --> 00:04:20,227 Speaker 3: way you keeper. He's sort of is the as usually 85 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,187 Speaker 3: and most teams are sort of spark plug to keep 86 00:04:22,187 --> 00:04:25,507 Speaker 3: guys going and get them around. That's where obviously where 87 00:04:25,547 --> 00:04:27,707 Speaker 3: the noise comes from behind the stumps, So some of 88 00:04:27,747 --> 00:04:29,947 Speaker 3: that Tom Blundle is pretty crucial that in that sort 89 00:04:29,947 --> 00:04:32,107 Speaker 3: of space, and then you just rely on from people 90 00:04:32,147 --> 00:04:35,507 Speaker 3: like Glenn Phillips, you know, who's energized the bunny to 91 00:04:35,987 --> 00:04:38,867 Speaker 3: try and produce something in the field or keep guys going. 92 00:04:38,907 --> 00:04:42,027 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's tough, man. The two days worth of 93 00:04:42,027 --> 00:04:44,427 Speaker 3: bowling almost the best part of and then you're sending 94 00:04:44,467 --> 00:04:46,427 Speaker 3: guys out to bat who have had all that time 95 00:04:46,427 --> 00:04:49,187 Speaker 3: in the legs. Then yeah, the situation becomes twenty two 96 00:04:49,187 --> 00:04:51,107 Speaker 3: for two and we're staring down the barrel. Really. 97 00:04:51,507 --> 00:04:53,587 Speaker 2: Yeah, So in New Zealand, one's off the table now, Ronnie. 98 00:04:53,587 --> 00:04:54,987 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to win it from here. 99 00:04:55,067 --> 00:04:57,827 Speaker 2: What chance do you give them of saving some face 100 00:04:57,867 --> 00:05:01,107 Speaker 2: and at least getting out of this without a second 101 00:05:01,107 --> 00:05:02,187 Speaker 2: straight defeat over there? 102 00:05:05,027 --> 00:05:09,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably. Yes, it's going to be tough. I 103 00:05:09,227 --> 00:05:11,667 Speaker 3: think you are expecting guys like King Williamson to be 104 00:05:11,707 --> 00:05:13,187 Speaker 3: performing out of a ten out of ten. You know, 105 00:05:13,227 --> 00:05:15,067 Speaker 3: he's got to soak up a lot of time, a 106 00:05:15,067 --> 00:05:18,547 Speaker 3: lot of effort and produce you know, a really big 107 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:20,627 Speaker 3: hundred if not like a double, and then any guys 108 00:05:20,627 --> 00:05:23,027 Speaker 3: to support him, and even that only breaks half of 109 00:05:23,107 --> 00:05:25,067 Speaker 3: the back of what they've produced in terms of the 110 00:05:25,147 --> 00:05:27,427 Speaker 3: first school. First thing in school, you know, So you know, 111 00:05:27,587 --> 00:05:31,307 Speaker 3: day three, they have to be batting by they have 112 00:05:31,347 --> 00:05:33,387 Speaker 3: to be batting by stumps in their first innings if 113 00:05:33,427 --> 00:05:34,747 Speaker 3: they are to try and save this Test. 114 00:05:35,347 --> 00:05:38,867 Speaker 2: Should we be worried about Devon Conway. 115 00:05:38,947 --> 00:05:42,827 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, we should be. Although that's just missle and 116 00:05:42,867 --> 00:05:44,667 Speaker 3: the second innings looked a little bit on the first 117 00:05:44,747 --> 00:05:46,547 Speaker 3: thing is rather looked a little bit fifty to fifty. 118 00:05:46,587 --> 00:05:49,267 Speaker 3: I don't know if that ball actually carried to the fielder. 119 00:05:49,907 --> 00:05:52,187 Speaker 3: So in that regard, I think he's probably a little 120 00:05:52,187 --> 00:05:54,147 Speaker 3: bit of bad luck. But when things aren't going away, 121 00:05:54,187 --> 00:05:57,707 Speaker 3: these types of things happen. So in his sort of 122 00:05:57,747 --> 00:05:59,907 Speaker 3: situation and how things are going, it's been a little 123 00:05:59,907 --> 00:06:02,067 Speaker 3: bit lean recently if you look back and see how 124 00:06:02,107 --> 00:06:04,507 Speaker 3: things are going. So yeah, he just needs to find 125 00:06:04,507 --> 00:06:05,787 Speaker 3: a way to spend some time in the middle in 126 00:06:05,867 --> 00:06:09,227 Speaker 3: the runs will essentially start coming. But yeah, it just 127 00:06:09,227 --> 00:06:11,107 Speaker 3: seems to be stuck at They're stuck at the wicket 128 00:06:11,307 --> 00:06:14,587 Speaker 3: and you know, getting out without actually, I guess trying 129 00:06:14,587 --> 00:06:15,707 Speaker 3: to take it to the bowlers. 130 00:06:16,147 --> 00:06:18,067 Speaker 2: It's a tough stretch, isn't it too, Ronnie? Because after 131 00:06:18,107 --> 00:06:20,387 Speaker 2: this what three tests in India, that's not going to 132 00:06:20,467 --> 00:06:23,667 Speaker 2: be easy either. It's it's a pretty tough stretch, isn't it. 133 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:25,307 Speaker 2: We need to find I mean, and there were positives 134 00:06:25,307 --> 00:06:27,387 Speaker 2: in the first Test. Let's not forget that the bowling 135 00:06:27,427 --> 00:06:29,587 Speaker 2: I mentioned from Ajas and also will I Roll. But yeah, 136 00:06:29,587 --> 00:06:33,067 Speaker 2: there's some It's a it's a tough, a tough five 137 00:06:33,147 --> 00:06:34,107 Speaker 2: test tour, isn't it. 138 00:06:35,667 --> 00:06:37,187 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just going to to your point there. I 139 00:06:37,227 --> 00:06:39,227 Speaker 3: think they probably could only have been another ten to 140 00:06:39,267 --> 00:06:41,027 Speaker 3: twenty percent better in the first Test and they have 141 00:06:41,107 --> 00:06:42,867 Speaker 3: won that. You know, in that first innings, if they've 142 00:06:42,867 --> 00:06:45,347 Speaker 3: got another twenty or thirty runs and eked it out, 143 00:06:45,387 --> 00:06:46,987 Speaker 3: then that last set of day, you know, in you 144 00:06:47,067 --> 00:06:49,747 Speaker 3: only chasing twenty or thirty becomes a lot easier. But 145 00:06:49,787 --> 00:06:51,827 Speaker 3: obviously stirring down trying to get sixty with the last 146 00:06:51,827 --> 00:06:54,307 Speaker 3: two wickets is pretty difficult to do. So I think 147 00:06:54,307 --> 00:06:56,067 Speaker 3: they missed opportunity for the black Cats was in that 148 00:06:56,107 --> 00:06:57,827 Speaker 3: first Test and the first things where they didn't get 149 00:06:57,827 --> 00:07:00,507 Speaker 3: a big enough lead and then obviously. Yeah, in the 150 00:07:00,507 --> 00:07:02,467 Speaker 3: first innings here they've obviously been put to the sword 151 00:07:02,507 --> 00:07:04,947 Speaker 3: while they by the showing and batsman. So yeah, a 152 00:07:04,987 --> 00:07:07,147 Speaker 3: few positives to take. How we you know, your three 153 00:07:07,187 --> 00:07:09,227 Speaker 3: Tests against India. You can see how they're performing at 154 00:07:09,227 --> 00:07:12,147 Speaker 3: the moment against Aangladesh and it's going to be tough 155 00:07:12,147 --> 00:07:14,507 Speaker 3: in their own conditions and the way that they sort 156 00:07:14,507 --> 00:07:18,467 Speaker 3: of attack their Test cricket. Yeah, I don't know if 157 00:07:18,507 --> 00:07:20,107 Speaker 3: they make any changes. I don't know if they go 158 00:07:20,147 --> 00:07:21,747 Speaker 3: to the bench and then put some other guys in, 159 00:07:21,827 --> 00:07:23,667 Speaker 3: but they've got to find a way to be competitive 160 00:07:23,667 --> 00:07:24,387 Speaker 3: at least. 161 00:07:24,867 --> 00:07:26,627 Speaker 2: Well, great chance for somebody over the next couple of 162 00:07:26,707 --> 00:07:29,027 Speaker 2: days to get big runs. As you say, three days 163 00:07:29,067 --> 00:07:31,267 Speaker 2: to ban if you like, really at least a couple 164 00:07:31,307 --> 00:07:34,227 Speaker 2: of days. I mean, Caine, Rtchen, I've got you know, 165 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:36,467 Speaker 2: they've got form in terms of spending time with the crease. 166 00:07:36,507 --> 00:07:37,747 Speaker 2: I guess if you turn it around, there is an 167 00:07:37,747 --> 00:07:39,667 Speaker 2: opportunity for somebody to get a big, big score. 168 00:07:39,747 --> 00:07:42,907 Speaker 3: Yet, yeah, you're right, it is, but the wicket's not 169 00:07:42,907 --> 00:07:45,107 Speaker 3: going to get any easier. At about on sch I 170 00:07:45,107 --> 00:07:46,667 Speaker 3: thin can make it look really easy. But then you 171 00:07:46,667 --> 00:07:48,387 Speaker 3: can see obviously when we're batting it. It's a lot 172 00:07:48,427 --> 00:07:51,067 Speaker 3: more difficult when you've got to you know, you've got 173 00:07:51,067 --> 00:07:52,307 Speaker 3: to try and hang in there to stumps and then 174 00:07:52,387 --> 00:07:54,347 Speaker 3: starting in the next day. I mean, I think the 175 00:07:54,587 --> 00:07:56,147 Speaker 3: best thing they can do is try and just not 176 00:07:56,227 --> 00:07:58,467 Speaker 3: worry about what they've scored now that's done and dusted, 177 00:07:58,547 --> 00:08:00,347 Speaker 3: and just try and make sure that they're making every 178 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:02,827 Speaker 3: sort of partnership go as long as they can and 179 00:08:02,827 --> 00:08:05,347 Speaker 3: try and make it towards stumps. If we're batting again 180 00:08:05,587 --> 00:08:07,907 Speaker 3: today and it's second and meons, then yeah, we're obviously 181 00:08:07,907 --> 00:08:09,587 Speaker 3: well on the road to losing this Test within fort 182 00:08:09,587 --> 00:08:10,387 Speaker 3: the four days. 183 00:08:10,867 --> 00:08:13,307 Speaker 2: Indeed, great to chat Ronnie. Thanks for taking our call mate. 184 00:08:13,947 --> 00:08:14,827 Speaker 3: All right, that's funny. 185 00:08:14,947 --> 00:08:15,827 Speaker 2: All the best, mate, Ronnie. 186 00:08:15,827 --> 00:08:16,267 Speaker 3: Here are there? 187 00:08:16,427 --> 00:08:19,587 Speaker 2: Former black Cap Keen observer of the game of cricket. Yeah, 188 00:08:19,627 --> 00:08:21,987 Speaker 2: it's tough, real tough in New Zealand from here six 189 00:08:22,067 --> 00:08:24,827 Speaker 2: hundred and two for five declared, Yeah, the winds off 190 00:08:24,867 --> 00:08:28,027 Speaker 2: the Table's let's be realistic about this twenty two for two. 191 00:08:28,427 --> 00:08:30,667 Speaker 2: Cain Williamson there with ajs Pttel who went out as 192 00:08:30,747 --> 00:08:33,507 Speaker 2: night watchman at the fall of the second wicket late 193 00:08:33,587 --> 00:08:36,347 Speaker 2: on day two. But yeah, Kane's just going to have 194 00:08:36,387 --> 00:08:38,387 Speaker 2: to bat and bat and bad. And then you look 195 00:08:38,387 --> 00:08:40,147 Speaker 2: at the likes of rich and Ravendra, who, let's not 196 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,147 Speaker 2: forget you got a double one hundred las summer, didn't 197 00:08:42,147 --> 00:08:44,787 Speaker 2: he against an albeit weekend South African side. So I 198 00:08:45,307 --> 00:08:47,627 Speaker 2: knows how to spend time at the crease and got 199 00:08:47,627 --> 00:08:49,587 Speaker 2: that ninety odd in the first Test as well. So 200 00:08:49,987 --> 00:08:52,947 Speaker 2: in these conditions has shown an ability to bat for 201 00:08:53,027 --> 00:08:55,907 Speaker 2: long periods. You need someone else there as well, obviously, 202 00:08:55,947 --> 00:08:59,987 Speaker 2: the likes of a Darrel Mitchell, Tom Blundell, maybe even 203 00:08:59,987 --> 00:09:03,707 Speaker 2: a Glenn Phillips to spend a decent amount of time 204 00:09:03,787 --> 00:09:07,187 Speaker 2: at the crease over partnerships like srilank did you look 205 00:09:07,187 --> 00:09:11,067 Speaker 2: at the partnerships that they put together in their innings 206 00:09:11,067 --> 00:09:14,307 Speaker 2: and it was just such a long long time between 207 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:18,667 Speaker 2: periods of success for New Zealand. You know, must just 208 00:09:18,867 --> 00:09:22,587 Speaker 2: be so demoralizing when you can't pick up up wickets, 209 00:09:22,587 --> 00:09:25,387 Speaker 2: you know, in clumps when it just takes well. And 210 00:09:25,467 --> 00:09:27,387 Speaker 2: they got that first one quite early, didn't they. They 211 00:09:27,387 --> 00:09:29,747 Speaker 2: were two for one, then one hundred and twenty two 212 00:09:29,867 --> 00:09:33,267 Speaker 2: runs for the second wicket, then another nearly one hundred 213 00:09:33,347 --> 00:09:35,547 Speaker 2: runs for the third, another one hundred runs for the fourth, 214 00:09:36,507 --> 00:09:38,987 Speaker 2: sixty odd until they got their fifth wicket, and then 215 00:09:39,147 --> 00:09:43,907 Speaker 2: another one hundred runs before they declared. So century partnerships 216 00:09:43,947 --> 00:09:47,747 Speaker 2: just dotted right across the Sri Lankan first innings. When 217 00:09:47,787 --> 00:09:51,227 Speaker 2: you build partnerships, score mounts and you make it difficult 218 00:09:51,307 --> 00:09:53,587 Speaker 2: for your opposition. So play starts on day three at 219 00:09:53,587 --> 00:09:55,947 Speaker 2: around four thirty. This afternoon, New Zealand resume twenty two 220 00:09:55,947 --> 00:10:00,227 Speaker 2: for two with Came Williamson and a Jazz Patel together. 221 00:10:00,747 --> 00:10:03,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 222 00:10:04,027 --> 00:10:07,307 Speaker 1: to News Talk z' B weekends from mid or follow 223 00:10:07,347 --> 00:10:08,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio