1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen, This next story might wind you up 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. The New South Wales Police Force is 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: celebrating today because twenty one experienced cops they've poached to 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: graduating and seven of those officers were stolen from New Zealand. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: The New South Wales Police Minister is Yasmin Katle Yasmin. 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you again. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: Oh, good afternoon, Heather, and good afternoon to your listeners. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Now, yesman, I know you want to wind us up, 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: but I'm going to say to you that this was 10 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: a flop because you only got seven. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: Ah yes, but there'll be more to come. We've had 12 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: more than one hundred applications for our professional Mobility program 13 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: and those over the ditch are very very keen to 14 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: come over here and be part of the best police 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: force in the country and indeed probably in the world, 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: the New South Wales Police Force. 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: But how many of those one hundred are you actually 18 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: going to end up taking. 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: Well, look, we had a third of today's a station 20 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: came from New Zealand and I met all of them 21 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: this morning. They're very excited to be here, be part 22 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: of what is the third largest police force in the world. 23 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: So you know, their opportunities are just endless, and they're 24 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: very happy to attest and be part of that. They 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: enjoyed their training and they're looking forward to going out 26 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: to where they've been placed. Right around New South Wales. 27 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I see you're poaching, as you say, obviously from us, 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: but also from other states. Looks to me like a 29 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: few of the other states are getting annoyed at you guys, 30 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: are they? 31 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, look, we're shameless. We make no apology for 32 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: poaching or any police from anywhere. I mean, you know, 33 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: if you want to be part of the best police 34 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: force and you come to New South Wales, the opportunities 35 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: there are limitless. You know, we've got that state of 36 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: origin over here, as you well know, heather between Queensland 37 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: and New South Wales, and looks like we're creating with 38 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: a few other borders now and indeed also across the ditch. 39 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though, what I find fascinating is 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: that regardless of all of these efforts by yourselves, you're 41 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: still facing shortages which we are facing, which apparently everybody's facing. 42 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: What's going on that we are losing cops from our 43 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: respective police forces. 44 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't think it's just police though. To 45 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: be fair, we've got nearly record employment here in Australia, 46 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: so we're competing against every other industry, just as you 47 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: would be, and as is happening globally. So we're just 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: having to make you know, incentivize people coming into the 49 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: New South Wales Police Force and making it very attractive 50 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: for them. We did give them a historic pay rise 51 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: in New South Wales last year, which now they're the 52 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: best paid police in this country, which was very significant 53 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: because their wages were going backward under the previous government 54 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: and you know, so by giving them the pay rise 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: was critically important for it as a retention piece, and 56 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: we're seeing that we're seeing some green shoots from that 57 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: already they're not leaving as much as they were. But 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: this mobility program, in all seriousness, it really is important. 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: The skills that some of the people there today are 60 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: bringing with them. You know, you have to be in 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: the force for you know, ten fifteen years and they're 62 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: coming over able to enter the New South Wales Police 63 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: Force at that level. Now that didn't happen eighteen months ago. 64 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: Well actually even blessed that twelve months ago you actually 65 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: had to start as a probationary constable again. So these 66 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: are the sorts of innovative ideas that we've introduced to 67 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: encourage those from anywhere to come to New South Wales. 68 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: But we've also done some structural change internally as well, 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: so they are promoted earlier now and those sorts of 70 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: things like you have to have a really attractive offer 71 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: and then you have to make sure that you retain 72 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: them and you have to look after them. We've also 73 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: set up a health and wellbeing unit to look after 74 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: their welfare. 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: Brilliant stuff. Yes, we men, thanks so much for talking 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: to us. I'm sure we'll be talking to you again. 77 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll be frothing for that opportunity. Yasman Catley, 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: new South Wales Police Minister. For more from Heather Duplessy 79 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, listen live to news talks the'd be from 80 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio