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Speaker 3: Hello, we're on the front foot again. Three tests in India.
Speaker 3: We haven't won there since nineteen eighty eight on Katie
Speaker 3: Yep thirty six years ago. I think we've only ever
Speaker 3: won there twice NK Poor and nineteen sixty nine. Bangalore
Speaker 3: is first up. We paid tribute to another black bet
Speaker 3: who passed away last week and two wins for the
Speaker 3: pos as they I a semi final based at the
Speaker 3: World T twenty and Garth Galloway and Jeremy Coney with
Speaker 3: me and I got some bewildering yous from Moultan, your
Speaker 3: favorite ground at Jeremy as bory as it would have
Speaker 3: been watching Pakistan score five fifty six in England eight
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty three. Finally, a game of cricket broke out.
Speaker 3: At least Brooke had a strike rate of ninety eight
Speaker 3: after scoring three hundred and seventeen. But do you know
Speaker 3: what sober wildering they're contemplating playing the second ties on
Speaker 3: the same strip, did you believe it?
Speaker 2: Well, actually, Evan Gray sent me a picture I think
Speaker 2: on Instagram or something. I don't even have Instagram, but
Speaker 2: it showed two old fashioned fans at one at each
Speaker 2: end of the pitch that obviously that obviously watered where
Speaker 2: all the bowler's footmarks were. And they had a couple
Speaker 2: of people peddling wildly to get these fans going around
Speaker 2: to try and dry the pitch. But the Jets it
Speaker 2: was a it's an interesting idea. It's an interesting idea.
Speaker 2: Let's play another game on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, when I read that there were fans out
Speaker 3: in the middle, I thought there were a couple of
Speaker 3: spectators had climbed the fence, but I found out that
Speaker 3: they were actually blowing fans. You wouldn't have seen that,
Speaker 3: gosh that had whipped their hair off the top of
Speaker 3: your head, wouldn't.
Speaker 5: It doesn't take much to whip the hair off the
Speaker 5: top of my head, but I in fact, there isn't
Speaker 5: any hair there. But the thing, yeah, it's if they
Speaker 5: were fans, they wouldn't have been people because of when
Speaker 5: any fans watching the game. Wise, I don't know if
Speaker 5: you tuned in, but the whole thing is covered on YouTube,
Speaker 5: which is quite nice. So you get that here Athurs
Speaker 5: and Hussein and goers back in the team and I
Speaker 5: watched quite a.
Speaker 2: Lot of it.
Speaker 5: But they were saying and that's why this news comes
Speaker 5: as such a surprise, because they during that coverage they
Speaker 5: identified the pitch for the new game and it was
Speaker 5: a couple of pitches away. It had a bit of
Speaker 5: green grass on it. This thing, so it does seem
Speaker 5: very strange. Indeed, I think one of the most lifeless
Speaker 5: pictures I've ever seen in test cricket. Very strange, I suppose.
Speaker 5: I mean, the other thing I thought was intoing. The
Speaker 5: Bamie Army were there in the small number, and I
Speaker 5: don't think I saw a Pakistan fan in the ground.
Speaker 2: Only those ones gath who usually do that sort of
Speaker 2: sipping of the tea, yes, yes, and not knowing quite
Speaker 2: what to do for thirty seconds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they may be planted. I'm not sure. If
Speaker 5: they're cricket fans.
Speaker 2: They're looking the wrong way.
Speaker 4: Very very good at drinking tea.
Speaker 3: There'll be something for us to watch and I'll pick
Speaker 3: it up on YouTube if that's where it can be
Speaker 3: picked up. The Black Caps hardly had their feet on
Speaker 3: the ground before they were entering a short warm up
Speaker 3: phase for the three Test series with India. Such as
Speaker 3: International Crickets these days, limited warm up time and for
Speaker 3: Garry Stead, limited time to says the pitch in being
Speaker 3: Aluru for the first Test, but enough time to make
Speaker 3: crucial decisions.
Speaker 6: Going on on past conditions here. I think the decision
Speaker 6: for us to make will be whether we play three
Speaker 6: seemas or just the two. It's interesting when you look
Speaker 6: at the last series that India have just played against Bangladesh,
Speaker 6: albeit not at this ground, that they have played three
Speaker 6: seemas in their own conditions. So I think once, I mean,
Speaker 6: you've been here before as well.
Speaker 7: You know that.
Speaker 6: It's conditions that will take turn at some stage. It's
Speaker 6: just how much support there is I think for the
Speaker 6: Seemas in the early stages of the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose you've got a lot of players. You've
Speaker 3: also played the t turny cricket there IPL, but the
Speaker 3: conditions may be just a little bit different from what
Speaker 3: you get in those games.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And look, I mean this is a high scoring
Speaker 6: ground when you look at the IPL and it's not
Speaker 6: a it's not a huge ground. And we played here
Speaker 6: twice through the twenty twenty three World Cup as well,
Speaker 6: a very high scoring loss to Pakistan and the Duckworth
Speaker 6: Lewis game where we scored four hundred. So look, we
Speaker 6: have some experience here recently, but just just really looking
Speaker 6: forward to getting getting into training today in the next
Speaker 6: three days before we start this match. It's always exciting
Speaker 6: to come to India. They are a real challenge. They
Speaker 6: have a vast, i think array an experience of cricketers
Speaker 6: now and the IPL has certainly helped to grow that
Speaker 6: for them.
Speaker 3: What areas do you want to see the most improvement
Speaker 3: from the last series.
Speaker 6: Look, I think two things stand out for me. One
Speaker 6: is if we can get partnerships and we start and
Speaker 6: put them under pressure, it's maintaining that for longer. So
Speaker 6: I think in three of the fore innings in Sri
Speaker 6: Lanka we actually batted very well in difficult conditions and
Speaker 6: the pitch can change very very quickly over here, So
Speaker 6: it's about recognizing that and when we do get in
Speaker 6: is pushing in for big ones. And with the ball,
Speaker 6: it really just comes down to accuracy and consistency. So
Speaker 6: whether that's spin or scene, we've seen that the most
Speaker 6: successful I think players in these conditions it does come
Speaker 6: down to accuracy. And you look at Again and Dere
Speaker 6: and someone like Ashwin and Judasia who just I guess
Speaker 6: they survive on their accuracy over here. And it's something
Speaker 6: that we keep talking about with our players is our
Speaker 6: ability to do that will be very important through this
Speaker 6: series as well.
Speaker 3: What attitude do you want to take into the test
Speaker 3: in terms of on the pack, You really have to
Speaker 3: take them on like the old days of when we
Speaker 3: played Australia, rather than just looking for survival. You've got
Speaker 3: to take them on and make the play.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that depends a little bit on how
Speaker 6: the pitch is playing at the time, but we've certainly
Speaker 6: talked about wanting to be a team that plays with
Speaker 6: I guess a slightly more aggressive It's it's got to
Speaker 6: become what it has to come natural to the players.
Speaker 6: We have though as well, so we're asking our players
Speaker 6: to play with a style that they're going to walk
Speaker 6: off the park at the end of the day saying, hey,
Speaker 6: I can I can live and die by it, by
Speaker 6: the way that I've played out there. And and because
Speaker 6: ultimately it is their careers, it's the ones that that
Speaker 6: they are. They are batting and bowling in their careers,
Speaker 6: it's no one else, So we are encouraging them to
Speaker 6: play that way, and we certainly know against India to
Speaker 6: beat them, especially if it does start turning, then you
Speaker 6: have to take a certain amount of risk and with
Speaker 6: the bat to score the runs that you want to score.
Speaker 3: Any update on Cain Williamson.
Speaker 6: He certainly won't be here to Test one, but we
Speaker 6: just play that by air at the moment and we're
Speaker 6: hopeful that he'll be He'll be right for Test too.
Speaker 3: When will a decision be made?
Speaker 6: Look, I imagine it will be somewhere through that middle
Speaker 6: of the first Test, and then I think this still
Speaker 6: three or four days in between the two tests, so
Speaker 6: it's probably no different to us getting here yesterday and
Speaker 6: being ready for a test in four days.
Speaker 3: Depending on your selections. Who's going about at number.
Speaker 6: Eight someone has to say yeah, look, I mean Matt
Speaker 6: Henry's scored runs there before. Tim Soudy's better than that position.
Speaker 6: They've both scored fifties and that for New Zealand, So
Speaker 6: that's always the balance. I think that possibly in New
Speaker 6: Zealand becomes more you think about it more there, especially
Speaker 6: if it's going to be like real Seema friendly. I
Speaker 6: think here the first thing you want to do is
Speaker 6: make sure you've got the bowl, as you think that
Speaker 6: can take twenty wickets as well, and that's certainly part
Speaker 6: of the thinking as we go into this first Test.
Speaker 3: What about number three? Will Young?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would imagine so, yeah, I see that Will
Speaker 6: Young is likely to slot into that position.
Speaker 3: What's the latest situation with Kyle Jamison.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Kyle's progressing well. I haven't obviously seen him for
Speaker 6: a while now being that we've been over here, but
Speaker 6: I've seen some video of him and he's tracking along nicely.
Speaker 6: I mean the plan is still for him to start
Speaker 6: in that super smash type window and he's sent me
Speaker 6: on track to be ready for that.
Speaker 3: There's some quite interesting comments in there. One of those
Speaker 3: is south to be considered as a number eight. I
Speaker 3: can't believe it. I mean, he struggles to be a
Speaker 3: number eleven at Test match level. Batting at number eight. Goodness,
Speaker 3: gracious me, is that what Gazilla is reduced to.
Speaker 5: It seems incredible, doesn't it. I mean, you know, so
Speaker 5: many fans have been so frustrated over the Southy's betting
Speaker 5: for such a long time. We all know the contribution
Speaker 5: he's made with the ball, you know, I can't remember
Speaker 5: the last time that he, in the old fashioned phrase,
Speaker 5: got his head done and played a proper cricket knock.
Speaker 5: He is seemingly just constantly trying to hit the ball
Speaker 5: over the boundary from his number nine position. You know,
Speaker 5: I think his batting, I think he's let himself down
Speaker 5: in New Zealand down with his batting over an extended
Speaker 5: period of time. And it just shows you the sort
Speaker 5: of lack of well, this inability to get out of
Speaker 5: the club really that I call this team now, And
Speaker 5: it just seems like I for starters, I didn't think
Speaker 5: Saldy would get picked for the Test, and I think
Speaker 5: that's the right selection. But then to pick him and
Speaker 5: play him at number eight, I just find it extraordinary.
Speaker 5: And the whole thing is so sad really seeing a
Speaker 5: captain having to stand down as captain during a series
Speaker 5: or before this new series starts going to Sri Lanka
Speaker 5: and underperforming having underperformed in series before that. It's very
Speaker 5: amusing and I'm sure there will be a lot of
Speaker 5: New Zealand fans who are extremely frustrated by what they
Speaker 5: hear and see.
Speaker 3: Jerry, You've had a look at teams that could be
Speaker 3: picked out of the squad that they've got there, and
Speaker 3: I don't think any of those teams included Sauvi from
Speaker 3: our point of view. Unless Stead is determined to play
Speaker 3: three seamers as India have done, as he mentioned, and
Speaker 3: that would be Sauve, will I Rourke and Matt Henry,
Speaker 3: then wouldn't.
Speaker 2: It Probably wid I think the underlying issue about the
Speaker 2: New Zealand side is and the number eight position you're
Speaker 2: talking about, is that none of our main bowl is
Speaker 2: bat That's an issue at this level. Now, Why has
Speaker 2: that happened? Why has Saudi allowed himself to treat his
Speaker 2: batting in such a frivolous way? But for so long?
Speaker 2: I hear Steed said he got a fifty at number
Speaker 2: eight or something like that. I had a quick look
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three he got seventy three against England
Speaker 2: at the base in reserve. You remember the time they
Speaker 2: won by one run in England, you know inserted, and
Speaker 2: you said, well they got to follow on, didn't they?
Speaker 2: And they were in the field for so long. And
Speaker 2: that was at a strike rate of one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty nine, which just highlights Garth's point back promptly. Then
Speaker 2: five years before that, twenty eighteen, he got a fifty
Speaker 2: that was at christ Church strike rate one hundred and
Speaker 2: four versus England again. And four years before that two
Speaker 2: thousand and fourteen, he got a forty at Leeds strike
Speaker 2: rate of one hundred and sixty six. So you can
Speaker 2: see if Saudi bats at eight, is he going to
Speaker 2: smash Ashwyn over five hundred and twenty Test wickets? Now
Speaker 2: Jadasia or Boomera around, is he going to smash Sarah
Speaker 2: will simply bounce him. So I think if you look
Speaker 2: at past New Zealand sides ninety nine two thousand Flemings
Speaker 2: team in India number eight, Chris Keirns, number nine, Dion
Speaker 2: Nash number ten, Daniel Vittori, that's an interesting eight nine ten,
Speaker 2: isn't it. And then in nineteen eighty five New Zealand
Speaker 2: played Australia. That's our team. We didn't play against India.
Speaker 2: Number eight Smith, number nine Braceful, both of those two
Speaker 2: dot Test hundreds, Number ten Lance Keirns. And then you
Speaker 2: go back to that team you were talking about fifty
Speaker 2: five years ago, nineteen sixty nine in India, Number eight
Speaker 2: Wadsworth top score eighty, number nine Dale Hadley top score
Speaker 2: fifty six, number ten Bob Curis top score fifty one,
Speaker 2: and number eleven Hendley Howard top score sixty one. They
Speaker 2: could all hold a bat and you compare it to
Speaker 2: the lot that we've got. Now there is an issue,
Speaker 2: isn't it straight away?
Speaker 5: And the other thing that you meet you when you
Speaker 5: talk about heavy houth and you know in nineteen sixty
Speaker 5: nine he took nine wickets in the testments that they
Speaker 5: wanted in the eight or nine, so he could bowl
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: When you look at Saudi's last ten innings in this
Speaker 5: calendar year, he's faced i think one hundred and two
Speaker 5: balls and ten innings. His scores are five to one
Speaker 5: seven twenty six, not three two two ten and he's
Speaker 5: been promoted.
Speaker 2: It just says why we need someone like a Nathan
Speaker 2: Smith who can bowl his little seema and swing it
Speaker 2: a wee bit. Got the most wickets in the in
Speaker 2: the Planket Shield last year. Has been over playing in
Speaker 2: England of that sort of player, but he can hold
Speaker 2: a bat as well well.
Speaker 5: I think I think more importantly Jerry, you know I
Speaker 5: agree with you completely, but I bit more importantly. It
Speaker 5: just cries out for you know, a massive shift in thinking,
Speaker 5: and that means a change in personnel in terms of
Speaker 5: I think Gary Steden co time for a change. This
Speaker 5: sort of thinking as woolly and can't last.
Speaker 2: I'm afraid.
Speaker 3: The other person, of course, that I don't think that
Speaker 3: they can include in this Test match is Mitchell Sentner.
Speaker 3: Either more from a bowling point of view rather than
Speaker 3: a batting point of view.
Speaker 5: He is being picked again as a specialist spinner wads.
Speaker 5: I think he's played in twenty eight Tests now. He's
Speaker 5: taken his wickets at a cost of forty two runs.
Speaker 5: His best bowling figures are three for forty four in
Speaker 5: a Test match. He's never taken five wickets. He's never
Speaker 5: taken four wickets in a Test innings, and yet he
Speaker 5: has played twenty eight Test matches for New Zealand as
Speaker 5: a specialist spin bowler again. You know, I think New
Speaker 5: Zealand cricket should that we should hang our heads in
Speaker 5: shame that he has picked as a front line spin bowler.
Speaker 5: And I think the fact that Sody has been called
Speaker 5: in for Tests two and three just as a further
Speaker 5: indictment on the spin bowling ranks in New Zealand. For
Speaker 5: him to be traveling over there with the possibility of
Speaker 5: playing Test cricket, that simply tells you that we have
Speaker 5: very little strength in those numbers. And I have to
Speaker 5: say it's something that we've been preaching about for a
Speaker 5: number of years.
Speaker 3: Well he's over there of course because Michael Braceball may
Speaker 3: be returning home for the birth of another child, so
Speaker 3: he's going to be there as a replacement for Braceball.
Speaker 3: We want to pick a side that's going to be aggressive,
Speaker 3: that's going to be able to take India on. We're
Speaker 3: not going to have Williamson at three. Will Young seems
Speaker 3: to be the man. According to Gary Stead, what's our
Speaker 3: top five or top six flock?
Speaker 2: Like Jerry Colonway lays the young Ravendra Mitchell Phillips, I
Speaker 2: don't think there's too much doubt you can change a
Speaker 2: few of the numbers around, but those will be the
Speaker 2: six players with Williamson absent. So I mean, I think
Speaker 2: really we could pick three different sides. I disagree with you,
Speaker 2: but with Garth, I think that Santner is one of
Speaker 2: our better number eights, even though it's not particularly strong.
Speaker 2: I think he got a thirty and a fifty or
Speaker 2: something like that in Sri Lanka. But if I it's
Speaker 2: a you know, if if I wanted to pick the
Speaker 2: best strongest batting lineup, and that may not be the
Speaker 2: way you want to go, I'd have those six that
Speaker 2: I've mentioned blood or would be at seven, and then
Speaker 2: you'd have Sentner, Henry, Patel O'Rourke. Now what that leaves
Speaker 2: is the best lower order we have at the moment
Speaker 2: for batting. You know, mean means you've got two seemas
Speaker 2: O'Rourke and Henry. Is that the option you want? It
Speaker 2: means you use O'Rourke and Henry and after an initial
Speaker 2: crack with the new ball, you then give them short
Speaker 2: two to three over bursts to go with the spinners
Speaker 2: Stantner and Patel. Stantner you would have to use as
Speaker 2: a holding like a third Seema Wads, as he used
Speaker 2: to do when Mike Hessen was the coach, especially in
Speaker 2: the fings, so that would be similar to the Sri
Speaker 2: Lankan sides that we saw. Then the strongest bowling option
Speaker 2: for me would be Blundle at seven, Henry at eight,
Speaker 2: but Tell at nine, Sally it's at number ten and eleven.
Speaker 2: Oh Raw, that's the three seamers and one spinner. Totel
Speaker 2: with the two part timers, and that, I censor is
Speaker 2: the team that New Zealand will favor. The seamers can
Speaker 2: do a better job I think in Asia than a
Speaker 2: second spinner. Actually, you can get through your first innings
Speaker 2: a lot more by using a seamer at one end
Speaker 2: and a spinner at the other. It weakens the New
Speaker 2: Zealand batting quite a lot, I think. And then the
Speaker 2: third option I think if you want to pursue you
Speaker 2: mentioned was an aggressive lineup and aggressive play. Gary Stead
Speaker 2: spoke about that, but to go in tandem with the
Speaker 2: batting that they that they use against spin. At the moment,
Speaker 2: you have Blundle at seven, Henry at eight, but Tell
Speaker 2: at nine, Sears at ten, and Iraq at eleven, So
Speaker 2: you get two pace options that will become our future.
Speaker 2: You get Sears and if it swings it will you know,
Speaker 2: he'll get a bit of movement, a rurical attack with
Speaker 2: the bounce. Henry the most consistent medium fast we have
Speaker 2: and that's the way. But there are problems again there
Speaker 2: the batting is weakened.
Speaker 3: Two good options, though, Garth, I think in terms of
Speaker 3: the final makeup, bearing in mind that spinning option that
Speaker 3: you talked about as a weak area, no braceful. Would
Speaker 3: you play them in one Test match and then have
Speaker 3: him come home for the birth of his child?
Speaker 5: Well, you see, I probably would if I'd like to
Speaker 5: see him packed the head of Satan. But again, what
Speaker 5: I would like and what they will do two different things.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think when Jerry's right, they will
Speaker 5: pick Satner. I think you know that that's against figures
Speaker 5: of one none for sixty four, one for fifty one
Speaker 5: and none for eighty two in Gaul in Sri Lanka.
Speaker 5: So but they'll pick him, and they'll pick him because
Speaker 5: of his batting strength. And you know this is this
Speaker 5: is what Jerry's referred to and that's been a constant
Speaker 5: theme with this, with this New Zealand setup. I think
Speaker 5: though that you know everything that you're hearing from Gary
Speaker 5: Stead tells you that they're going to play Saudi. That's
Speaker 5: that's what I think they're going to do, you know,
Speaker 5: And that means that they will have to play Henry
Speaker 5: and O'Rourke as well. And so it just becomes to
Speaker 5: me if that's what they go ahead with, they move
Speaker 5: away from what they did in twenty twenty one where
Speaker 5: they had Jamison and Saldi and Saldi you remember five
Speaker 5: wickets in the first innings in camp or in Bold
Speaker 5: very well, but I can't see him doing that again.
Speaker 5: And if they go with that side, then it weakens
Speaker 5: the spin bowling option. So it just seems to me
Speaker 5: they've got a real problem. But they obviously want to
Speaker 5: play Southy and for me, I would be O'Rourke and
Speaker 5: Henry and then I'd be looking at my spin bowlers,
Speaker 5: Buttel would be the first one i'd pick, and then
Speaker 5: I would be trying to find a way for Bracewell
Speaker 5: and Phillips to be doing the rest of it. But
Speaker 5: I think they'll go with Santana and that defensive option,
Speaker 5: and again, as Jerry says quite rightly, he'll be that
Speaker 5: defensive bowler who can hold an end up and they'll
Speaker 5: hopefully attack from the other ends. But gee, there's going
Speaker 5: to be some work to do.
Speaker 2: Bracewell, as far as our spinners are concerned, is by
Speaker 2: far the most penetrating in terms of spinning the ball.
Speaker 2: He will get the ball to get up in the air,
Speaker 2: he'll dip it away. But they've got to give him
Speaker 2: some bowling. They must get him. He's very good in
Speaker 2: the park and he can get as many runs as
Speaker 2: Santla's going to get and he'll be more dangerous with
Speaker 2: the ball so well, I personally, yeah, I personally think
Speaker 2: he should certainly play.
Speaker 3: The other thing that was interesting when I asked Gary
Speaker 3: Stead about what the things that he would like to
Speaker 3: see an improvement, and he mentioned partnerships. We realized that
Speaker 3: the batting was substandard in Sri Lanka, but he didn't
Speaker 3: mention the fielding. And I think that that was the
Speaker 3: lowest quality fielding I have seen from a New Zealand side.
Speaker 3: You know, we hear the fact that we've pride ourselves
Speaker 3: on our fielding. We've always worked hard on the fielding.
Speaker 3: And I dismissed that no one tries to drop the catch. Well,
Speaker 3: of course that's not the case. Then no one ever
Speaker 3: tries to drop a catch. But the fact of the
Speaker 3: matter are there was some poor attempts at catching during
Speaker 3: that series and that's got to be picked up as
Speaker 3: well to support those bowlers.
Speaker 5: Two key positions for me in that regard once Blundell
Speaker 5: behind the stumps for New Zealand is going to be
Speaker 5: absolutely critical. I don't think he kept particularly well in
Speaker 5: India last time, and I don't think he kept particularly
Speaker 5: well in Tri Lanka and he did drop a crucial chance.
Speaker 5: And then of course Mitchell at first slip, and we've
Speaker 5: said live on here on a number of occasions that
Speaker 5: Mitchell does not look like a natural first slipper. Yes
Speaker 5: he does take some good grabs in there, but he's
Speaker 5: not consistent enough in my opinion to be a top
Speaker 5: class first slip. And it's very hard that those two
Speaker 5: positions are absolutely critical. And you know New Zealand are
Speaker 5: going to be starting well and truly behind things in
Speaker 5: India and they have got to be They've got to
Speaker 5: be perfect behind the stumps.
Speaker 2: In my view, if you get in in India, you
Speaker 2: get runs and runs, particularly in the first innings. The
Speaker 2: best way you know, how Will Young is going to
Speaker 2: get four possible innings isn't he at number three? I
Speaker 2: would think the way it's looking at the moment, if
Speaker 2: Williamson doesn't get back there, maybe six. Actually, if Conway fails,
Speaker 2: who knows, this could be a tough tour India, a
Speaker 2: stronger bowling attack New Zealand Boom run Saraj. They like
Speaker 2: this fellow a steep not a step seeing akash Deep
Speaker 2: as well, they like him. But Ashwand Jadeja, Akshapatel and
Speaker 2: Kildep Yadav. That's all good spinners, aren't they over there?
Speaker 2: They've got more experience and they know how to use
Speaker 2: the SG bore which is slightly smaller. It's got a higher,
Speaker 2: more pronounced scene last longer than the kooker barrow does.
Speaker 2: As you pointed out, wads twelve series now in India,
Speaker 2: and the best we've done is one all fifty five
Speaker 2: years ago. You know, our best batsmen is absent. Our
Speaker 2: batsmen gets sixties and seventies. They got to be one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifties over there. And I've highlighted here our
Speaker 2: fielding in New Zealand has deteriorated. So I've come in.
Speaker 2: But anyway, England, and the last point I would make
Speaker 2: is India away in Australia next so they will know
Speaker 2: they want the points against New Zealan and they got
Speaker 2: a five Test series in Australia. The incent of is
Speaker 2: there for India to play well.
Speaker 1: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 3: Talking about fielding, one of the great fieldsmen of Black
Speaker 3: Cap era has passed away last week. You Garth and
Speaker 3: Jerry or Jerry you would have played with him in
Speaker 3: a few games. I think your first game featured Brian
Speaker 3: Hastings who passed away in christ Church and yet another
Speaker 3: farewell to a frontline Black Cap cricketer.
Speaker 5: Absolutely and Brian Hastings was a lovely man and as
Speaker 5: you mentioned, was a very fine fielder, particularly in the
Speaker 5: gully behind the stunts. A yeah, lovely man and a
Speaker 5: good player. Played at thirty one matches over a period
Speaker 5: of seven years for New Zealand. That was a lot
Speaker 5: of Test cricket in those days. He scored four centuries
Speaker 5: which makes him more than useful in those days and
Speaker 5: thirty which I ventured to suggested a little bit below part.
Speaker 5: But the pictures weren't as they are today. The ball
Speaker 5: seemed around a little bit more and Brian Hastings will
Speaker 5: be remembered very fondly in d by many New Zealand fans,
Speaker 5: and of course he played in a few fascinating series.
Speaker 5: He played, of course in that win against the West Indies,
Speaker 5: played in the Test when Rodney Redmond scored his one
Speaker 5: hundred in his first Test match, and featured in that
Speaker 5: magnificent partnership with the Richard Collins one hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: one for the tenth wicket's.
Speaker 4: Seventy nine for nine with Hastings on one hundred and
Speaker 4: two Collins fifty three one hundred and twenty eight. This
Speaker 4: one's the College helps us in a swear another world
Speaker 4: with God.
Speaker 5: Run through the coother yep, we remember him with a
Speaker 5: great deal of affection. Brian Hastings terrific contribution to New
Speaker 5: Zealand cricket.
Speaker 2: Yeah haste. What a good natured, affable and kind of
Speaker 2: popular team man he was. His playing instincts were always assertive.
Speaker 2: He liked to set up or attacker targets. You know,
Speaker 2: good in the park. You mentioned Gully Garth that certainly
Speaker 2: and also cover when I was playing. He was part
Speaker 2: of that team in the late sixties and early seventies
Speaker 2: really wasn't he. When you remember players like Burgess and
Speaker 2: Hastings and Turner and Congo and Wadsworth, those kinds of
Speaker 2: people often scored runs when they were needed. You mentioned
Speaker 2: that base in reserve sixty nine. I remember that was
Speaker 2: the day when Charlie Griffiths and Prof Edwards, the two
Speaker 2: opening bowlers for the West Indies, were left out of
Speaker 2: the touring team to go to England for the West Indies,
Speaker 2: and they unleashed their anger on the top order of
Speaker 2: New Zealand that time, and the New Zella were only
Speaker 2: chasing about one hundred and fifteen hundred and sixty something
Speaker 2: like that, and Haster went in and we must have
Speaker 2: been two for thirty and then very shortly after three
Speaker 2: for forty. Hayster was in, but Brian Yule came to
Speaker 2: join him at number five. They put together a partnership
Speaker 2: of about US seventy or eighty runs I think, and
Speaker 2: Hayster was not out at the end at oh he
Speaker 2: was over sixty anyway, I know that runs, and Ross
Speaker 2: Morgan from Auckland was batting with him when they won
Speaker 2: that game. There's that famous photo of Graham Dowling wrapping
Speaker 2: his arm around Hayster's shoulder as they walked up from
Speaker 2: the base and reserve up to the up to the
Speaker 2: changing rooms up there. So yeah, I recall two things
Speaker 2: about Hayster. The first was that in seventy four when
Speaker 2: we played Australia at Lancaster Park, a very tight match,
Speaker 2: both teams scoring about two thirty to two point fifty
Speaker 2: in each of their innings, and we were batting last,
Speaker 2: chasing Ida know about two thirty, we lost Dad Parker
Speaker 2: in mystery Morrison and Congo. Congo was run out and
Speaker 2: so we were suddenly three for sixty after quite a
Speaker 2: reasonable start. And then Hayster joined Glenn Turner who had
Speaker 2: already got one hundred and the first dig and they
Speaker 2: had a partnership of over one hundred. I was next in.
Speaker 2: I knew I was watching every ball, willing it on,
Speaker 2: sitting in the tunnel down there at Lancaster Park, and
Speaker 2: Hayster actually got out on the second to last ball
Speaker 2: of the day. I couldn't believe it. He hit Ashley
Speaker 2: Mallet and was caught at long arm, second to last
Speaker 2: ball of the day. I could have strangled his neck,
Speaker 2: scrawny neck. Anyway, we needed about sort of fifty and
Speaker 2: I went in the next day and played a sort
Speaker 2: of a very bad smell innings, you know. I hung
Speaker 2: around and got out with about twenty to go and
Speaker 2: turned from Ken Wadsworth got those runs and I remember
Speaker 2: a big flashing off drive where Words smashed it and
Speaker 2: a spectator stealing the ball trying to run away, but
Speaker 2: he was chased by a very resolute Ian redpath from Australia,
Speaker 2: and he recovered the ball and gave it back to
Speaker 2: Haster actually, who gave it to the Canterbury Association. It
Speaker 2: was mounted and in the fiftieth reunion, just that last
Speaker 2: game we played Australia down there, and it was actually
Speaker 2: at that reunion, So the last time I saw Paste
Speaker 2: actually was in the member's lounge at the pavilion, looking
Speaker 2: a bit frail, but still very much as sparkle in
Speaker 2: the eye. I do remember my last memory of Haste
Speaker 2: as on the ground we were playing in Perth. A
Speaker 2: couple of our bowlers we were bowling, had a quick
Speaker 2: rub down prior to going out, and Haste the city
Speaker 2: had quite a tight back, so he grabbed the young
Speaker 2: jewant that was lying down there and rubbed it on himself.
Speaker 2: Vigorously on his back at presumably the right spot, and
Speaker 2: during which the bell went for us to get onto
Speaker 2: the field. So he raced off to complete a quick
Speaker 2: toilet and then ran out onto the field. And for
Speaker 2: the first ten minutes I've never seen him moving so much.
Speaker 2: I mean he was at cover and he was saving
Speaker 2: one almost at midawn, so he's racing across the pitch
Speaker 2: to save. He could not stop moving. And I went
Speaker 2: past him after an over or two and I said, Haster,
Speaker 2: that stuff's obviously loosened up your back and he said yeah,
Speaker 2: he said, but it was going to the toilet after
Speaker 2: that was the problem. He said, I'm scorching and on
Speaker 2: fire and mistrides. He forgedt. Do you wash his hands? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he had the DP, but you know, Haste to play
Speaker 2: for Burnside. He played for other clubs as well, in
Speaker 2: christ A, Burnside West. He was of course of Wellington College,
Speaker 2: played for Wellington, played for Wellington, Yeah and CD. When
Speaker 2: he lived in Blenham, he was an ICC match referee.
Speaker 2: Love Trotting, loved Trotting, but most of all just a
Speaker 2: bloody good mate, you know. Hastere was and very sad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, pleasant man to talk to when you were in
Speaker 3: christ Church, and he spent a lot of time watching
Speaker 3: games while he was capable. Towards the end of his
Speaker 3: period in christ Church. Sad to see him go, but
Speaker 3: lovely memories of Brian Hastings.
Speaker 2: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 3: The White films are now starting to show a greater
Speaker 3: level of consistency. Three wins from four games at the
Speaker 3: Women's T twenty World Cup. That consistency is coming from
Speaker 3: the younger players, Georgia Plummer starting to deliver at the
Speaker 3: top of the order on the expectations from developing talent
Speaker 3: the likes of Eden Carson, fran Jonas gaining the experience
Speaker 3: on the international stage. Some tears of delight for the
Speaker 3: Ferns that skip us, Sophie Divine after beating Pakistan without
Speaker 3: needing run rate to decide their fate.
Speaker 7: Oh lot, we wanted to bat. We thought it was
Speaker 7: a good surface. I thought Pakistan were really smart with
Speaker 7: how they bowl, taking all the pace off it and
Speaker 7: making us have to create power momentum, which is really
Speaker 7: hard to do when you're facing that sort of lack
Speaker 7: of pace. And yeah, I mean outside the power player
Speaker 7: I thought we were sort of talking one thirty one
Speaker 7: to forty would have been about par, but as soon
Speaker 7: as the field is spread, that pace goes off. It
Speaker 7: was extremely hard work, so we sort of had to reassess.
Speaker 7: Obviously we would have liked a few more runs, but
Speaker 7: that's the nature of the game. And then I guess
Speaker 7: the great thing about it as we knew Pakistan were
Speaker 7: going to have to come out swinging, and also we
Speaker 7: knew that one hundred and eleven was going to have
Speaker 7: to be enough, so that probably galvanized the side a
Speaker 7: little bit to know that it's enough runs for us today.
Speaker 7: And again, just really proud of the way the group
Speaker 7: pulled together, kept things simple. It would have been easy
Speaker 7: to sort of look too far ahead, but to do
Speaker 7: the job tonight's you know, really pleasing.
Speaker 3: The final pool stage weren't coming on top of what
Speaker 3: Divines says were supporting Australia to beat India the previous night.
Speaker 7: I think from about the twelfth over of the Australian
Speaker 7: bowling innings, we were clapping every single dot ball and
Speaker 7: things like that. So look, it was another great game.
Speaker 7: Those two sides seem to have some absolute humdingers in
Speaker 7: terms of matches. So yeah, again thanks to oursie mates
Speaker 7: across the ditch. Hopefully we'll be seeing them in a
Speaker 7: final in a couple of days time. But yeah, again,
Speaker 7: it just shows the strength of women's cricket that, you know,
Speaker 7: a side like India has missed out. Yeah, and it
Speaker 7: just goes to show you the strength of the woman's
Speaker 7: game at the moment. Ah, Yeah, you're right, and it's
Speaker 7: really important that we reflect on where we've come from.
Speaker 7: In terms of that South Africa World Cup, we're in
Speaker 7: an exact same situation as we are in this tournament.
Speaker 7: We knew we'd have to win at least one of
Speaker 7: our first two games and obviously the remaining games, and
Speaker 7: we learn a lot about ourselves, not only from that
Speaker 7: World Cup, but the I guess following twelve eight months.
Speaker 7: We obviously brought in a really young squad and to
Speaker 7: see them grow and shine like this tournament. You know,
Speaker 7: if it's not Georgia Plimmer, it's Eding Casson. If it's
Speaker 7: not eating it's Franjonis. But it's not Franuzzy I thought
Speaker 7: was outstanding today. And to be able to see the
Speaker 7: growth of those youngsters, it certainly makes me proud, sort
Speaker 7: of a bit of a proud mum. I'm sure I'm
Speaker 7: not the cool mum that they want me to be.
Speaker 7: But to see the growth that they've had from Matt tournament,
Speaker 7: it was really hard for them to be thrown into
Speaker 7: that and expectations. But for us, you're right, probably no
Speaker 7: one has expected us to be here, and I guess
Speaker 7: that's a bit of a key we way though, we
Speaker 7: sort of fly under the radar and you know, just
Speaker 7: sort of will swift away a little bit. But to
Speaker 7: know that when we play our best cricket, we can
Speaker 7: win this thing. So we'll certainly, you know, enjoy tonight's
Speaker 7: success and what we've been able to achieve, but this
Speaker 7: is now. The next focus for us is now we're here,
Speaker 7: we want to win the bloody thing. Yeah, and I
Speaker 7: think you look at who's on the bench. I mean,
Speaker 7: Molly pen Fold has been outstanding the last twelve month.
Speaker 7: She's you know, come on and leap some bounds. And
Speaker 7: you've still got players like Jess k hanaho Leak Asprick
Speaker 7: you missed out tonight, And it is it's those small
Speaker 7: way things where it's going to take time to build depth,
Speaker 7: especially in the country as small as New Zealand. It's
Speaker 7: not going to happen overnight. So this has been you know,
Speaker 7: even since before the World Cup, common games, you know,
Speaker 7: for us to continue to build, and it's going to
Speaker 7: be a continual work on for us as given the
Speaker 7: same level of depth because we're not India, we don't
Speaker 7: have a billion people you know to sort of pick from.
Speaker 7: So yeah, again it's really positive signs, but we know
Speaker 7: that this is just part of the journey and yeah,
Speaker 7: we're moving in the right direction, but there's still a
Speaker 7: long way to go.
Speaker 3: And their own victory over India in the opening game
Speaker 3: was a key factor in their progress to the Semis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was huge.
Speaker 7: You know, it'll probably be something that we reflect back
Speaker 7: on once this Toilman's finished, whenever that is. I think
Speaker 7: I spoke after that match that we've been planning that
Speaker 7: game for a long long time and to see our
Speaker 7: plans you know, come to fruition is something that was
Speaker 7: really pleasing and to see you know, I guess at
Speaker 7: the time, it's always nice to win, but I guess
Speaker 7: the way that we won as well obviously helped our
Speaker 7: net run rate, but it also showed a lot in
Speaker 7: terms of what our bowlers are capable of against you know,
Speaker 7: an absolutely dangerous Indian banning lineup, but also with the
Speaker 7: bat that we've got threats throughout our lineup. So yeah,
Speaker 7: it certainly was. I guess gave us a bit of
Speaker 7: a confidence boost. Everyone knows we haven't had the greatest
Speaker 7: results over the last six to nine months, so to
Speaker 7: be able to pull that out it has it's given
Speaker 7: this group and even tonight's performance I think as well,
Speaker 7: you know, Pakistan are a dangerous team as well. I
Speaker 7: think Fatimasana is just the absolute future of the women's
Speaker 7: game and just so much respect for her and obviously
Speaker 7: condolences to her and her family, but for her to
Speaker 7: come out there tonight just blows my mind really to
Speaker 7: show you know, her strength and stuff like that, so
Speaker 7: players like her going around. I think the woman's game
Speaker 7: is going to be in pretty good hands.
Speaker 3: And finally this week domestic cricket starts this weekend the
Speaker 3: Ford Trophy. Central Districts playing Auckland Wellington a home against
Speaker 3: the Canterbury and Northern Districts have a home game against Otago.
Speaker 2: Brings to an end.
Speaker 3: Another edition of On the Front Foot will be able
Speaker 3: to have a look and review the Test match this
Speaker 3: time next week. Hopefully they've taken note of some of
Speaker 3: the things we've offered by way of assistance and all
Speaker 3: the help.
Speaker 2: We know that's not true, no.
Speaker 3: But you know is that our teams never have to
Speaker 3: go on the path.
Speaker 2: Yep, no worries. Good on your odds all right now,
Speaker 2: take care bye.
Speaker 7: Summer.
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