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Speaker 1: Darcy water Grave sports stalk coasters are that's hello, Darcy,

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Speaker 1: greetings Heather. Okay, so we are going to be playing

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Speaker 1: against France and the USA. It's our home test.

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Speaker 2: It is said news TALKSB understand.

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Speaker 1: And when I say we, I do mean the All Blacks. Yes,

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Speaker 1: talking about rugby.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the All Blacks. Has been said that come

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Speaker 2: next year when the French B team, it'll come back

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Speaker 2: and bite me when they beat It's the French B

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Speaker 2: team are going to have one of their games away

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Speaker 2: in the States against New Zealand, Okay, in the USA

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Speaker 2: and a double header. Yeah, that's what's believed to happen.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's the thin end of the wedge,

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Speaker 2: isn't it really? So?

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Speaker 1: Is this because the All Blacks would make more money

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Speaker 1: of taking it to the States and playing it at

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Speaker 1: Eden part, I'd.

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Speaker 2: Say to be double headed, because plainly I'm not a

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Speaker 2: a No, I don't know, but I'd say yes, there'll

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Speaker 2: be money in it, plainly, and too the Rugby World

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Speaker 2: cuts being played over the States, so they want to

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Speaker 2: promote the game and promote the brand as much unch

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Speaker 2: as they can to get the Americans on board. What

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Speaker 2: better way to promote it than having the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: play in the States, even though they do play all

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Speaker 2: the time. The question is when they start taking home

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Speaker 2: games away from New Zealand and playing around the world.

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Speaker 2: Now said thin into the wedge, and you wonder how

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Speaker 2: long before it's like, well, I've been doing a few

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Speaker 2: years now, so we're actually taking two away this time around. Look,

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks is the brand that ends in our

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Speaker 2: trade off. They make all their money out that is it.

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Speaker 2: That's the top of the tree. So why wouldn't they

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Speaker 2: use that to expand the brand through to the America

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Speaker 2: and try and make more money. It makes perfect sense

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Speaker 2: from a.

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Speaker 1: Business decision, that's okay. The problem, of course, is what's

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Speaker 1: the trade off?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: The trade off is that you annoy the fans in

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Speaker 1: New Zealand who are already annoyed because of all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's been going on with the team, be it

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Speaker 1: Fozzy be at tj'shucker whatever, and now you've annoyed them

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Speaker 1: more and you maybe lost them.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're going to have some big games. Eden Park

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Speaker 2: will remain to Kaha Study when it gets built, will

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Speaker 2: remain I expect the stadium in Ellington they'll still have

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Speaker 2: test matches, but not don't give them two because they

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Speaker 2: didn't behavioral well last time around. Maybe down South and Dunedin,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to see the all Blacks. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of people will say, well, Hamilton missed

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Speaker 2: out last time. Does this mean that Hamilton starts missing out?

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Speaker 2: Are we ever going to see the all Blacks play

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Speaker 2: in slightly smaller centers? The answer is no. And this

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Speaker 2: is a way of slowly massaging us into this concept

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Speaker 2: that we'll be lucky to see the All Blacks at

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Speaker 2: home and it will happen, but maybe not as much,

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Speaker 2: and the seats will be at a premium. But I

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Speaker 2: wonder how many people actually go to all black test

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Speaker 2: matches anyway, But who's going to.

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Speaker 1: Go to an all Blacks test match against the French

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Speaker 1: B team?

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Speaker 2: Most fans probably would like to see us tramp all

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Speaker 2: over the French. Look, we'll find out. Let's take ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I think they play at Eden part when I that

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Speaker 2: sell out because it's got a high concentration of all

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Speaker 2: black fans. It's a big population, so most people watch

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Speaker 2: it on TV, don't they really? And so will they

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Speaker 2: miss out? When you talk about having the all blacks

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Speaker 2: at home, and the all blacks being on too, and

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Speaker 2: the all blacks exposing to the wider population. Do we

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Speaker 2: really have that much access to the all blacks anyway?

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Speaker 2: They're so highly managed and highly protected. They're actually very

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Speaker 2: difficult to get close.

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Speaker 1: I know more about their politics than their personality. So

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Speaker 1: do know you that? Okay, well, just one of them anyway,

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Speaker 1: But he's gone. Now, Hey, Darcy, thank you. I appreciate it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Darcy's going to be back for sports talk at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I will take calls on man, how happy people

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Speaker 2: will be. It's inevitable, but we don't have to like it, right,

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Speaker 2: that's right.

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