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Speaker 1: Barry Soper is our senior political correspondent. Barry, welcome back,

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Speaker 1: hello again, right, good to see you. Now, good to

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Speaker 1: see the back of Adrian or two.

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Speaker 2: Poor old Adrian, or well it's not poor old Adrian.

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Speaker 2: Or when you think about it, you know, here's this

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Speaker 2: man that's really at the center of the economy since

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, leaves without notice and doesn't give an explanation

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Speaker 2: to anyone, and he's either accepting absolute defeat and what

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Speaker 2: he set out to do, or he's saying, look, I've

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Speaker 2: turned it around, We've got inflation back under control. I've

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Speaker 2: done the job. Now I'm out of here. But wouldn't

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Speaker 2: it be nice to hear from him? I think he

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Speaker 2: owes it to New Zealand that here's a man that's

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Speaker 2: been pillared uphill and down Dale, has been praised in

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Speaker 2: some quarters, but won't come out and either defend himself

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Speaker 2: or you know, take the accolades. I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we just don't. No. I think on Wednesday I

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Speaker 1: said it. It sounds like he's thrown his toys. You know,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like he's don't have to wobbly, because otherwise

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Speaker 1: you'd go to that very expensive conference they organized, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's extraordinary, isn't it. On the eve of the

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Speaker 2: conference he goes, he leaves, and he's meant to be

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Speaker 2: cheering the conference. I mean, it is quite extraordinary the

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Speaker 2: way he parted. Yeah, but you know, it's been an

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Speaker 2: unusual governorship anyway since he's been there.

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Speaker 1: On him and I think most people it's like Andrew Bailey.

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Speaker 1: Once they're gone, they're gone, and people move on, don't they.

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Speaker 1: Phil Goff, Well, he'll be moving home.

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Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't it be nice to hear from him

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 1: I think we've heard too much. Actually that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Well that is a problem. But you know, I would

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Speaker 2: have loved to have heard his reaction when he woke

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Speaker 2: up in London and realized that because of what he

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Speaker 2: had said at Chatham House, Chatham House rules didn't apply

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Speaker 2: and he was reported widely. I would have liked to

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Speaker 2: have heard what his reaction was to what would seem

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Speaker 2: to be, on the face of it, a fairly minor indiscretion.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, when you've got somebody as sensitive as we've

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Speaker 2: got as Donald Trump and the White House, you've got

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Speaker 2: to be aware of that sensitivity. And certainly Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: is aware of that because we need America whether we

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Speaker 2: like it or not, in terms of we've got aluminium

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Speaker 2: going into that country, we've got steel products going into

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Speaker 2: that country. And how are the tariffs? Yes exactly, but

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Speaker 2: how are the tariffs going to be handled? If he

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Speaker 2: was allowed to get away with something like exactly?

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Speaker 1: Not very diplomatic from him. Now another resignation. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we just have a long list. But Richard people

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Speaker 1: of course went from the White Tangy Tribunal.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it, because look, he was appointed just

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Speaker 2: last year last October, I think it was, so is

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Speaker 2: there a very short time? He said he did a

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Speaker 2: lot of reading over the Christmas break and decided that

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Speaker 2: really the Tribunal on many counts is wrong. It's a

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Speaker 2: body that doesn't have any teeth really at all. And

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Speaker 2: what he's saying is though he said, there should be

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Speaker 2: a High Court judge there rather than what are there

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Speaker 2: at the moment and essentially Land court judges. And he

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Speaker 2: said that, you know, it should be a constitutional issue

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Speaker 2: rather than you know, a target to Penawa, an issue

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Speaker 2: that doesn't concern everyone across the board. So you know,

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Speaker 2: he's decided as infinite wisdom, he can't make the change

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Speaker 2: that he believes the Tribunal should be changed too, so

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Speaker 2: he's moved on. Interestingly, now I think Ryan is what

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Speaker 2: are they going to do, because there is a move

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Speaker 2: certainly within the government ranks to review the Tribunal exactly

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Speaker 2: and to make it a very different body to what

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Speaker 2: it is today. So now that Prebo's gone, maybe he'll

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Speaker 2: be brought on back on board as an advisor.

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Speaker 1: As part of some rais again exactly. I mean the

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Speaker 1: surprising thing for me this week from reading that and

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Speaker 1: about him and talking to Richard Prebble, is that there

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Speaker 1: are twenty of them. Yes, I'm sitting on the Tribunal.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know it's a gravy train, isn't it. I Mean,

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Speaker 2: it's been on about that for years that you know,

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Speaker 2: it keeps lawyers employed virtually constantly, and it's a bit

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Speaker 2: like the Treaty Settlement's Bill that a lot of people

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Speaker 2: have a lot to say on it, but it means

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Speaker 2: nothing in the end because it's not going to become well.

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Speaker 2: And similarly, the Tribunal is in the same situation now.

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Speaker 1: The overseas doctors are going to be allowed to train

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Speaker 1: and come straight into GP practices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's a good thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, we have to presuppose that a doctor who

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Speaker 2: has trained in medicine overseas, we have the same bodies,

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Speaker 2: as I understand it, human beings Internationally, you'd think to

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Speaker 2: come to New Zealand, there's no particular issue that they

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Speaker 2: would have to be concerned with. Nevertheless, they I guess

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Speaker 2: there's cultural issues that they have to contend with. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're going to be allowed to go into practices, do

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Speaker 2: their too years internship if you like, and then practice

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Speaker 2: medicine the way they should be practicing it.

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Speaker 1: And just finding the Malorti party has been worn by police.

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Speaker 1: This is the electoral return that they just haven't gotten yet.

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Speaker 1: It was due last year and it was December and

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Speaker 1: they're still not there.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, and it's all very fine to say,

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Speaker 2: don't worry John Tammahi says, the president of the party.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry the natives. They're not playing up too much.

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Speaker 2: Will will come into line. Well, they haven't come into line.

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Speaker 2: They are part of the electoral process like anyone else,

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Speaker 2: and they should be held accountable like every other party.

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Speaker 2: That's in that place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Here, Barry Barry Soaper News Talks. He'd be senior

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Speaker 1: political correspondent for.

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