1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Early Erdship with r V Supercenter explore r V successories 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and servicing all in one news talks. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: It'd be as. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: Welcome moarning to you and welcome to summer so today 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: on the program in the next hour. How green are 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 3: the green shoots in our economy? A new ASB forecast 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: is good reading and we'll get gred Olsen's core on 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: it in about five minutes time. Max Verstappen wins in 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: abud derby, but Lando Norris did enough for his maiden 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: World championship. Elliott Smith on the Weekend Sport in ten 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: minutes time. Meanwhile, Rugby should be very worried after the 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: A League derby on Saturday, and I'll tell you why. 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: Just after the six thirty news, and Andrew Costa throws 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: everyone under the bus. Was he right? Was that a 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: smart thing to do or not? We'll have that story 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: for you just before six we'll have correspondence from right 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: around New Zealand and Gavin Gray out of the UK 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: and you can have your say by using the text. 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: The number is ninety two to ninety two. Small charge 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: does apply. It is seven minutes after five. 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: The agenda. 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: So it's Monday, the eighth of December and German Chancellor 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: Fredrik Nittz has met with Netanyahu in Israel and he's 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: pushing to get the Gaza cease fire into its second phase. 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: So Benjamin Netanyah, who says he's got some very important 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: conversations mind up at the end of the month, and 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: he says he's got a meeting with Trump in December. 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 2: So now opportunities for peace are there, we tend to 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: exploit them. I'm going to discuss them with the President 31 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: Trump when I meet him later on this month, but 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: we discussed them as well, and we discussed, of course 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: how to bring an end to the Hamas rule in Gaza, 34 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: because that's an essential part of ensuring a different future 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: for Gaza and a different future for us well. 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: On Gaza. A bit later on in the program to 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: the Formula one and Abu Dhabi and Landa Norris has 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: won his first Formula one title by finishing third, and 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: it's fair to say his fans are stoked. 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: Relieve you know, it was everything unbelieva. 41 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: Yes, a max h step and won the Grand Prix, 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: but it wasn't enough Oscar Piastri came second. Liam Lawson 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: was eighteenth after starting thirteenth, and he was a lapdown 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: on the winners. And finally, Katy Perry and former Canadian 45 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have gone Instagram official. The singer 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: posted a string of photos and videos of their trip 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: together to Japan. In one picture, Katie and Justin are 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: seen smiling for a selfie with their faces touching. In 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: another video, the pair are seen trying sushi. You know what, 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: He kissed a girl and he liked it. 51 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: Dickens and R The Supercenter explore R these accessories and 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: servicing all in one news talk. 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: Said be so this morning, I walked in and the 55 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: newspapers out. In the paper's headline is a warning from 56 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 3: a credit agency that the government's rites as will make 57 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 3: it harder for the Orcan Council to balance us books. 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: Are you surprised, I'm not. And it won't just be 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: the Orcan Council, It'll be all councils. The rate caps. 60 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: They said it's to stop the dumb stuff, and others 61 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: have said it's to stop the nice to haves. So 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: we can have more needs to haves, but you know what, 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: the nice to haves are the least of our problems. 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: It's the need to haves that's costing so much. It's 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: the water and the rubbish, and the roads and the 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: footpaths and the public transport that swallow the bulk of 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: your rates, and that is now going to be cut 68 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: with the rates cap. So what it will mean for 69 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: all of us is an increase in the cost of living, 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: the very thing this government swore to get on top of, 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: because councils are going to be looking to find their 72 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: funds now elsewhere so they can do your water and 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: your rubbish and your roads. And you know what that 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: means When they're looking for funds helsewhere, that means queueser pays. Already, 75 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 3: organ councilors wanting to push residential parking permits up by 76 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: fifty bucks a year, expect more increases in costs. Brace 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: yourself for it. The charges will take the place of 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: your rates, and the charges could feed inflation. But it 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: looks good to the electorate. Seventy five percent of us 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: support rate caps because we all hate taxes, we all 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: hate rates, But do we really understand the implications. Once again, 82 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: the government's moves are going to have an unintended consequence 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: of making things more expensive, like the moves against payWave. 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: The government moved against payWave. They know that we don't 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: like the surcharge. But did they get rid of the searchcharge. No, 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: they just moved the costs onto the retailer, with the 87 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: consequence of higher prices. It's also reminiscent of the way 88 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: they've unilaterally increased employer's Kiwisaver contributions. Now that puts even 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: more pressure on small medium businesses and their cash flow. 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: And what does that mean higher prices. The government likes 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: to say they're cutting out tax but what's really happening 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: is the taxes are being disguised as user pays and 93 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: they're moving them ever closer to your bottom lines. And 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's called user pays for a reason because you, 95 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 3: the user, will still have to pay. 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: News Talk said B. 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: But maybe we've got more money to pay these things 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: because the new ASB reports on our financial health is 99 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 3: out and says that twenty twenty six is when the 100 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: whim will turn. So what did they say and how 101 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: do we feel about it? We're going to talk to 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: brad Olsen in a few moments time from Inframetrics to 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: talk all about this, and later Elliot Smith on the 104 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: black Caps, Formula one orkand FC and oh my goodness, 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: the Ashes. There's a lot still to come. It's early edition. 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: It's News Talk, sabb. 107 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 108 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins and r V Supercenter explore 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: r VS, accessories, ants servicing fall and one News Talk. 110 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Said b it's time for some good news and the 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: time is fourteen minutes after five, so survive until twenty 112 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 3: five mins the mantra that we heard, but the ASP 113 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: has come out with a new report that says twenty 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: twenty six is when the worm will turn. They are 115 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 3: seeing clear signs of life. Consumers are spending again, big 116 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: ticket buyings back on the table, and interest rates of course, 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: as we all know, finally easing off. So brad Olsen 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: from Informetrics Joints were now goodby to your brand. Good morning, 119 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: So this sounds right to you. 120 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 5: Yes, we have seen a number of indicators that have 121 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: started to shift around and are sort of setting up 122 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 5: a bit more of that growth as we head into 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. I mean, consumers spending did see a 124 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 5: good boost in the September quarter and has continued to 125 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 5: sort of show some signs, especially under the hood, that 126 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: there is a bit more willingness to spend by consumers. 127 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 5: The fact that you know, your electronic sales, your car 128 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 5: numbers and similar have been improving. There's been a little 129 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: bit more activity in the housing market. Those are encouraging 130 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: because clearly kiwis are sort of doing something with their money. 131 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 5: And at the same time you stay and see job 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 5: prospects that are turning around slowly as well. 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 6: And I think the point that Ape's made is that 134 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 6: you know. 135 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: It's not that everything's absolutely immediately firing on all cylinders, 136 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 5: but the conditions are very much therefore greater economic activity 137 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: to happen next year. 138 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: Why do you reckon it took so long? This is 139 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: your record. Why do you took reckon it took so 140 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 3: long for the economic recovery to take hold. 141 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: Look, I think we were actually seeing a bit more 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: momentum at the start of this year. Again, it was 143 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: still pretty limited. 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 6: But there was a little bit whereas the sort. 145 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: Of middle of this year was impacted by just a 146 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 5: bit of a lot of uncertainty around the tariffs and 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 5: similar that I think just sort of put any of 148 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: those better improvements and just sort of put them down. 149 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: You know, businesses and households just weren't confident enough to 150 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: keep spending like they were before. And even at the moment, 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 5: you're still seeing sort of patchy results. You know, there 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: was good spending activity through this September quarter. 153 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 6: But Black Friday sales look like they've. 154 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 5: Probably disappointed a touch compared to expectations. So again, it's 155 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: not necessarily that you've sort of got this wholehearted pace 156 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: across the entire economy. But over time, those lower interest 157 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: rates are doing what they need to to stimulate people 158 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: to spend. It's not worth saving as much anymore. It's 159 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: not worth you know, people who are having to put 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 5: their money into the mortgage to the same degree, and 161 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 5: so over time that money is becoming a locked plus 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 5: of course, and I think this is probably the big one. 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 5: You've now had a consistent enough period of good primary 164 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: sector returns that starting to show through in the economy 165 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 5: as well. 166 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: Because I was reading our Siven Bridges last week in 167 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: one of those mood of the boardroom things that the 168 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: herald writes from time to time, and he wrote, and 169 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: it was his first sentence. He wrote that as he 170 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: gets older, he begins to realize just how important sentiment is. 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: And I wonder whether we were all guilty of actually 172 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: squashing our sentiment by our continual going on about just 173 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: how stuff the economy is after the last regime? Did 174 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: we talk ourselves down? 175 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 5: There is an element to that. I mean, you're right 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 5: that confidence is quite important, and that's why it's been 177 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 5: so interesting over the last year that you've had very, 178 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 5: very high business confidence which has probably been a little 179 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: bit too over the top, but you know, fairly subdued 180 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: consumer confidence, which has felt almost a little bit overly downbeat. 181 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: And I think that the truth is probably somewhere a 182 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: bit more in the middle. You don't necessarily want the 183 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: economy that. 184 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 6: Like you say, is talking it south down all the time. 185 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: Equally, you can't, you know, look at the economy and 186 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: talk it up massively if there are fundamental challenges in there. 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 5: So I think that there's a little bit of truth 188 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 5: more through the middle. One big challenge for this year 189 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 5: for consumers has been the labor market. It's all fine 190 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 5: and well to think that you know your mortgage race 191 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 5: is going down and that will lead to better things. 192 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 5: But if you're worried about your job, and people have been, 193 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 5: that's still a pretty big limitation that keeps people in 194 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 5: their shells. And you're starting to see a little bit 195 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 5: of movement there recently with a slight improvement and job adds, 196 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 5: so that's starting to change the dial on the labor market. 197 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: Jobs, fun, good stuff. Brad, have yourself a great summer 198 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 3: and don't forget to go out there and spend some money. 199 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: Same with you, say with us all, Brad Olsen, and 200 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: for metrics principle. Now, of course, the big economic news 201 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: over the course of the week was that Ikea opened 202 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: in Auckland and people are saying, what's that impact going 203 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: to be and who's going to be impacted by it? 204 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: And I see that Kmart this is new analysis has 205 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: come out from Forsyth Bar. Kmart is doing pretty good. 206 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: Kmart is earning twice as much per square meter and 207 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: has gross margins eight percent higher than the warehouse, so 208 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: they're doing okay. The warehouse ain't doing so good. The 209 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: warehouse's full year result posted in September showed that the 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: company had a loss of two point eight million dollars. 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: Kmart's financial result for twenty twenty five was that they 212 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: made one hundred and two million dollars profit and total 213 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: sales over one billion dollars for the first time. So 214 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: this is good news for kmart, a bit of a 215 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: worrying news, piece of news for the warehouse. And meanwhile, 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: Ike has only just started, so watch this space. Max 217 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: Verstapping is not the world champion, but he did win 218 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: the race. More on the F one, the cricket which 219 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: was extraordinary, and the football to come next with Elliot 220 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Smith on News TALKSB twenty one. 221 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: R Dickens on Early Edition with r V Super Center 222 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: explore r v's eccessories and servicing all in one News 223 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Talks edb. 224 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: Welton into the office just before fore as you do 225 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: and who's there? But Elliott, yes, that was very early. 226 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 4: It was early. You wake up early, yeah, I. 227 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: Know, but all Orders is never here that early. You 228 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: were here very early for the F one. 229 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 4: I was here really because they wake up at half 230 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 4: past one and couldn't give it this week, so I 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: thought let's just get out of bed and get into 232 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: the day, and not because the IF one was on 233 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: there's a bit of other sport obviously on I thought, 234 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: let's get into the office and keep things off. And oh, 235 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was a great Formula One finish. 236 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: I mean didn't have the fireworks that maybe we wanted. 237 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 4: It was a fairly straightforward race, even with Max for 238 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 4: Stapping winning the race, and but in the terms of 239 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: the title scheme, he was never really a threat to 240 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: Lando Norris taken the whole thing up. 241 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: But when you consider what was happening at the beginning 242 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: of the season, when it was a McLaren procession totally, 243 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: this season actually ended out quite exciting. 244 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the Stapping can take a lot. 245 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 4: I think he won more races than anyone else in 246 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: the season, But just on the points alone, I couldn't 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: quite get that they found something towards the back end 248 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: of the season. Didn't they read Bull with that car 249 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 4: with the stappin and next season. We don't want to 250 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: look too head too early because Landa Norris is only 251 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: one at what an hour or two ago, But you know, 252 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 4: you'd think that Red Bull are well placed next year 253 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: if they can get their car right to go back 254 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: to her. 255 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: Who knows they've all got new cars. Hopefully Liam gets 256 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: a new cast down and thirteenth ended out, Eighteenth went 257 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: back five places. 258 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, time penalty didn't help fourteenth for the season. Look, 259 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: he's got a drive confirmed next year. And that's the 260 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: main thing I think for Liam Lawson. 261 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: And you're here because all of this of course goes 262 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: to test matches and so he would have had a 263 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: very difficult day over the course of the weekend because 264 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: that last day, I mean I watched it and it 265 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 3: was it was just like, come on, come on, but 266 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: you know, struck by injuries, we just couldn't knock them 267 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: off in the windy is huge score. 268 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 4: You've got the sense though one away, didn't you that 269 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: the black Caps if they could they got those couple 270 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 4: and they got to six down. If they get one more, 271 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: that exposed the tailor a little bit, but they just 272 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: couldn't quite do it. And if you can rotate your 273 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: bowlers a little bit more, if you have a Nathan 274 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 4: Smith in there, you have obviously Matt Henry that the 275 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: spearhead of the pace attack, then you put a little 276 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 4: bit more pressure on the Western these they missed that. 277 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 4: Not only they missed Matt Henry, who was one of 278 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: the best pace ballers I think in the world, but 279 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: they missed the rotation of that and keeping them fresh, and. 280 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: So now they've got the call up happening and all 281 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: sorts of kids are coming into. 282 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: Them thirty years old race. Yeah, I would have liked 283 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: to see the West Indys have a bit more of 284 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 4: a crack for I understand why it didn't. The draw 285 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: was pretty good result for them. They're eighty runs shy, 286 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: you know the final session, why not. 287 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: Have a crack? 288 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, one more then shut up. If there's another look 289 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 4: at you, then you shut up shop. 290 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, true, true enough. But but you know, here's 291 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: the thing, We've got another test to come. I mean, 292 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: do we have the depth. 293 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I look at the little 294 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: I would like to see them go a bit more 295 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: youth with this elections. I think it's a question mark. 296 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: So with some of those players in the team batting 297 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: wise and also bowling wise, so this was probably the 298 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: series to do it. Now they've got injuries, they're still 299 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: bringing in in. You know, thirty year old Michael Rah. 300 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure he's twirled and he's done well in domestic cricket, 301 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: but you can't tell me there's a young kid out 302 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 4: there that would be worth the opportunity. 303 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: Good like you, Oh allders, Orders to play, Orders to play, 304 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: I'd loved him Trembling, five twenty four Costa interview, More 305 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: thoughts on the cinemoent the early edition full the. 306 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks It Be. 307 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: News Talks, It Be. It's five twenty seven. Arm Andrew 308 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: Dickens runs here for the drivetime show. Hea, that's doing 309 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: the breakfast show. So what do you make of the 310 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: Andrew Costa interview on Q and A Yesterday? First question 311 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: is why did he do it? 312 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 6: Well? 313 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: Obviously he felt he'd been thrown under the bus by 314 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: Judith Collins, Mark Mitchell and Richard Chambers at that recent 315 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: press conference, so he was prepared to throw them under 316 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: the bus as well, So he did the interview. And 317 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: he does have a point when the IPCA report did 318 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: not mention corruption, but the politicians and the new police 319 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 3: Commissioner inferred it, so he had to protect his name, 320 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: and the protection of his name is the reason he 321 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: negotiated with the Public Service Commissioner in the delay in 322 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: resigning from his latest job. In frankly, I don't blame him, 323 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: and what did the Public Service commissioners say about him? 324 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: He told Mike last week that Andrew Costa always seemed 325 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: genuine in all his dealings with them. So the problem 326 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: is with the throwing under the bus is that Costa 327 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: has no proof of his claims and so now we 328 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: have a ridiculous he said, he said situation, and nobody 329 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: is able to provide concrete proof of what they said 330 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: or may not have said at the time. Now Costa 331 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: may have brief Mitchell and Hipkins of the situation, but 332 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: what does that mean? Which situation was he talking about? 333 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: How much detail did he do? Was he telling them, Oh, yeah, 334 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: Mick s Gibbons had an affair, it's gone a bit wrong. 335 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: Or did he tell him, oh, the police force has 336 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 3: been covering up one of them own. How much detail 337 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: of anything did he give them in these informal briefings. 338 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: Who knows because no one was keeping notes. And here's 339 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: the thing, The fascinating fact he mentioned in that interview 340 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: is that the police this is a three billion dollar 341 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: business which makes the job of police commissioner one of 342 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: the biggest CEO positions in our economy. And ask any 343 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: CEO whether they take notes of any conversation about their business, 344 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: and they'll tell you it's imperative. Loose lips ships. One 345 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: would have thought that taking notes after a conversation about 346 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: this sort of stuff is imperative for a commissioner, also 347 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: for any minister of the Crown as well. And I'm 348 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: looking at you, mister Hipkins and mister Mitchell. My whole 349 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: impression after the interview is that everyone was a bit loose. 350 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: It's a tawdry tale of bad judgment at the top 351 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: of our public service, both the public servants and of 352 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: course the politicians. And remember the buck always stops at 353 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: the top, and the politicians are at the top. It 354 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: also reminded me that the political battles at the top 355 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: levels of our public service are actually very vicious affairs, 356 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: and everyone plays a very hard game. And Richard Chambers 357 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: was in competition with a very competent police officer in 358 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: Mcskimming who had a hidden sex life and a preblection 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: for animals. But you have to wonder how Richard Chamber 360 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: Chambers in that competition didn't know anything on what did 361 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 3: he know? Who knows who was taking notes? Nobody, So 362 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: at the end of it all. One can only hope 363 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 3: that mister Costa and missus Z find some new normal 364 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: and some peace and everyone learns to take their jobs 365 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: more seriously. 366 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 7: Sid B. 367 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 3: So we're going to have more with this with Matthew Haig. 368 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: Now Matthew Haig as a lawyer, but he's also a 369 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: former cop and we'll ask him what he felt after 370 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 3: that interview and where we might get to go hing forward. 371 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: So that's still to come. Took him out the FC game, 372 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: the Derby Game amazing and Gavin Gray from the UK 373 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: all on early edition. I'm Adrew Dickins. 374 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Good Morning, the news you need this morning and the 375 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: in depth analysis earlier edition with Andrew Dickens and r 376 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: V Supercenter explore r v's accessories and servicing all in 377 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: one news talk sat be. 378 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 3: The Morning jud Welcome to your Monday. Summer starts here. 379 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: Mike's on holiday, Heathers doing the Breakfast Show, Ryan's during 380 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: the Drive Show, and I'm Andrew Dickens and I'm doing 381 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: early addition right up to Christmas and then the summer 382 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: Breakfast Show. And this is a little bit of What's 383 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: Katy Perry. This a little bit of Lady Gaga and 384 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm playing Lady Gaga for a reason, because she played 385 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 3: Melbourne over the course of the weekend at the Marvel Stadium. 386 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: My boy went because he's living in Melbourne and a 387 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: lot of our staff have gone over there to do this. 388 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: Seven hundred dollars tickets. Can you believe it? However, there's 389 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: some controversy about the Lady Gaga show. The show itself 390 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 3: was fantastic, the singing was fantastic, but everyone looked at 391 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: the staging and said, Hello, that's the stage. That's the 392 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: stage she uses when she's playing like Spark Arena. When 393 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: she's playing an indoor stadium. That's not the big stage 394 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: she uses for the big stadium. Hey are you Lady Gaga? 395 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: Have you skimped? Are you guysually giving us a lower 396 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 3: level show? What's that all about? People got upset about it, 397 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: but like I say, the tunes were great, but I 398 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: can't oscillate. She's not coming here, is he? Come on down, 399 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: Lady Gega, you'll love it now. On the Saturday, I 400 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: was in the Cormandle and it was clear blue skies 401 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: and thirty two degrees. So I did the sensible thing, 402 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: which was to hide inside away from the sun and 403 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 3: watch the football. And it was Auckland FC against the 404 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix, their fifth there at Derby. And boy, what 405 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: a game. What a game, real feeling, excellent goals, particularly 406 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: Lucky Brooks for Auckland. It was a beautiful gold Rufus 407 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 3: golf for Wellington was a screamer. The crowd of twenty 408 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: two thousand were fully involved. They were singing their hearts 409 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: out and I thought, you know, watching this so much fun. 410 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: This is what rugby should be afraid of. Football League 411 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: and basketball have embraced the spectacle and excitement of sport 412 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: and it makes for a great product. Any MPC or 413 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: Super rugby game would love to have what the Black 414 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: Knights and the Knicks had on Saturday. But they don't. 415 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: And I don't know why. Why Why do New Zealand 416 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: rugby crowds watch games silently, scowling with grumpy faces. Why 417 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 3: do the not sing? Everybody else around the world when 418 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: they're watching football has a has a sing when they're 419 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: watching rugby. You know, listen to the Welsh, listen to 420 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: the Angers, swing, swing low and all that sort of carrier, 421 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: But not New Zealand crowds. We're just there being grumpy 422 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: football and league crowds watching their sport was wis de 423 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: viv and it's because well, their sports are better games. 424 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: League was invented because rugby was dull. Basketball and football 425 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: are the biggest sports in the world because they're fun 426 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: and rugby is not. Rugby has to find its joy 427 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: because a new generation is coming and they like to 428 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: have fun when they pay good money. Does it be 429 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: twenty six around the country? We go Callen Proctor out 430 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: of Otaga. Good morning to your calum morning Andrew. So 431 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: we've got a Southern gang pad that's been raided. 432 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, look it's in fact it's been the scene of 433 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 8: a number of prolonged and torchsu speatings. It could be 434 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 8: now confiscated. Andrew Crown Lawyers have applied for a forfeiture 435 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 8: order covering what is the Mongrel Mobs headquarters in Matoda 436 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 8: and the next door six in an Albion Street. They 437 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 8: have a combined rtable value of three hundred and forty 438 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 8: seven thousand dollars in Matoda and Open Justice reports that 439 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 8: several beatings took place there between January and November twenty 440 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 8: twenty two. This resulted in six gang members being jailed. 441 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 8: Look please say the property is symbolic of the gang's 442 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 8: perceived powerful status in Southland and this forfeiture applications to 443 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 8: be decided. 444 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 9: At a later date. 445 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: Take it and crush it. How's your weather? 446 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 8: I've got rain in the south to this morning, but 447 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 8: it's clearing to find for Dunedin today, nor easterly this 448 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 8: afternoon and twenty. 449 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: The high and I thank you, Claire. Sure it joins 450 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: US Film Canterbury, Hella Claire, good morning. Tell me about 451 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 3: the Special Olympics. 452 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 10: Yes, well, the Special Olympics is believed to be the 453 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 10: perfect event to open our part of key Audae Metro 454 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 10: Sports Center this week. This, of course is for the 455 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 10: event itself. The public will be allowed into the venue 456 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 10: from next week. At the moment, we've had a final 457 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 10: tour through as a media group, finding that the finishing 458 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 10: touches are being ticked off at the venue. There will 459 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 10: be eleven pools, There are spas, five hydrous lines and 460 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 10: of course nine sports courts. More than twelve hundred athletes 461 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 10: will be competing in christ Jurge in ten sports at 462 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 10: six different venues, including part of Yorday from this Wednesday. 463 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 10: City Council's head of Recreation, Sport and Events at Nigel Cox, 464 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 10: says it's an ideal event to kick things off and 465 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 10: showcase all that the city has to offer. He says, 466 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 10: Partak Yorda is hosting various events, including swimming and basketball, 467 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 10: and they're expecting an amazing number of spectators as well. 468 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: All right, you're making it all jealous, what with one 469 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: stadium to care her opening as well, Christi, which has 470 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: gone off. How is your weather? 471 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 10: It sure is down here, cloud increasing, a bit of 472 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 10: scattered rain developing a bit later. Should clear to find 473 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 10: though by midday, cloud increasing in the evening northwesterlies and 474 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 10: the high twenty four to Willington. 475 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: We go to be is Macintosh, good morning, Good morning Andrew. 476 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 6: How are you. 477 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 3: I'm well. We've got a team who could be detained indefinitely. 478 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 11: Yeah, now, this is actually a fairly grim story. The 479 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 11: family of a ten year old boy who was subjected 480 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 11: to a sexual assault in the public toilets of a 481 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 11: lower Hut playground says the teen attackers mental and intellectual 482 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 11: conditions created a foreseeable risk. A relative says the defendant 483 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 11: should have been better assessed, managed and supervised in his 484 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 11: day to day activities, but Ordogon Tamidiki says it was 485 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 11: limited in its powers to actually physically detain the youth 486 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 11: the day he fled his community home and assaulted the victim, 487 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 11: and he wasn't under any detention order at the time. Well, 488 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 11: he's since been found unfit to actually stand trial and 489 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 11: may be held indefinitely in a secure facility. 490 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: And how's your weather? 491 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 11: Mostly cloudy with possible mourning drizzle, getting fine this afternoon 492 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 11: and as per Wellington's strong and gusty northeries easying late afternoon. 493 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 3: Diviza, I think you never read to mart who joins 494 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: me from walking from morning teen, Good morning? 495 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 7: Why we were? 496 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 3: Are we talking as a water park up they're going 497 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: to open again or what? 498 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 12: Well, look, there's lots of good things happening there for them. 499 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 12: But look, I'll just start with the most exciting breaking 500 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 12: news is that the Why We're the community set to 501 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 12: benefit this is from a forty five million dollar water 502 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 12: care project. Now it's going to build a new wastewater 503 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 12: pump station next to the current Why We wastewater treatment plant, 504 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 12: and also a four point five kilometer pipeline. This will 505 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 12: connect it to the Hatfield's beach pump station and that 506 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 12: current plant will be decommissioned once all this work is done. 507 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 12: And yes, you're quite right, Andrew, because a couple of 508 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 12: weeks ago it was announced that a fifteen million dollar 509 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 12: revamp of the Whywha Pool, so you know it's all 510 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 12: in conjunction with. 511 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: That, it's all happening. Good on you for getting excited 512 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: about a watercare project. See only one now speaking of 513 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: water or not? Has the weather no water in sight? 514 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: Fine? 515 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 3: Fine? 516 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 12: Oh my goodness. Sweltering temperatures like we had yesterday and 517 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 12: in the weekend and another high twenty eight here in Auckland, 518 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 12: And I. 519 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: Thank you Neva reta man who speaking actually of the 520 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: north of the Aukward region. We're talking up to around 521 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: Rodney and heading towards north End. If you're out on 522 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 3: a boat over the course of the weekend, you might 523 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: have seen a rocket go cruising past on the back 524 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 3: of a barge. And not a little rocket either. This 525 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: is a rocket knows, that is as big as a tugboat. 526 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: And what that was was Rocket Lab's neutron rocket nose 527 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 3: being transported from the manufacturing facility at Walkworth and heading 528 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: eventually down to the Mahia Peninsula to eventually go to 529 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 3: Mars and all that sort of thing. It's the biggest 530 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: rocket they've ever made. It's a reusable medium lift rocket 531 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: and it was built and walk with and you know 532 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: where they built it and walk with at Russell Coot's 533 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: old factory for the sale. GP Rocket Lab leased it 534 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, kept fifty people on it 535 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: and said you make great boats, can you make a 536 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: rocket And they made of course, we could make a rocket. 537 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: So they made a rocket and then they shipped it 538 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: down through the Hodaki Golf Can you believe it? That's 539 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: New Zealanders doing great stuff. And I love that story. 540 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 3: And it is sixteen to six and we're off to 541 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: the UK with Gavin Gray next here on News. 542 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: TALKSB International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of 543 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business. 544 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 3: We got Matthew Hayg on the Costa interview and few 545 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 3: moment's time is now thirteen minutes to six to the UK. 546 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: We go Gavin Greg Good morning to you. 547 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 6: Good morning Andrew. 548 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: So some bloke's been spraying pepper spray all over people 549 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 3: that he. 550 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 7: Throw, Yes, twenty one injured in total, five of those 551 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 7: needed hospital treatment. But the chaos as the car park. 552 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 7: This was at the car park two Terminal three at 553 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 7: London's Heater Airport. The car park was pretty much in 554 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 7: lockdown for a couple of hours and that meant people 555 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 7: were hanging around trying to get their cars basically having 556 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 7: gone on holiday, so pretty miserable for them. And now 557 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 7: police have been quick to say this was not terrorist 558 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 7: or terrorists related. They say it was not a protest. Instead, 559 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 7: it looked like a group of people who knew each 560 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 7: other got involved in an argument. That argument escalated and 561 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 7: then that resulted in its alleged somebody using something like 562 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 7: pepper spray to spray the beaver that they didn't like, 563 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 7: but ultimately others got caught up in it. Social media 564 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 7: footage I've seen shows large armed police response, fire engines 565 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 7: and off searching a handcuffed individual's incidentally more suspects of 566 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 7: being searched for one person has been arrested. But quite 567 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 7: extraordinary experience and also tremendous knock on as I said, 568 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 7: for those people who are at Heathrow today. 569 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: And speaking of bonkers whippens, some people have been throwing 570 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: custard and apple crumble at the Crown Jewels. 571 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 7: Yes, thankfully the Crown Jewels are not harmed or damaged 572 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 7: in any way. They are of course behind strong glass. 573 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 7: This in the Tower of London, no less. But this 574 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: is a new group, new, I think to most people, 575 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 7: called take Back Power. They appear to be an offshoot 576 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 7: of Just Stop Oil, which of course we do know 577 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 7: about and have heard about. They say there are a 578 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 7: new nonviolent civil resistance group. They want to effectively have 579 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 7: a permanent citizens Assembly or House of the People, with 580 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 7: the power to tax extreme wealth and fix Britain anyway, 581 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 7: Andrew Moore of that later, because the four people have 582 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 7: been arrested, they use custom and apple crumble to throw 583 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 7: at the Crown Jaws behind glass. Of course they are 584 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 7: just priceless, so plenty of concern that they might have damaged, 585 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 7: but yeah, permanently guard stationed in and around the room 586 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 7: and thankfully no particular damage. Nevertheless, it's suggested this could 587 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 7: be the first in several stunts that this group carry out. 588 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 7: Apparently on Wednesday they left manure under the Christmas tree 589 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 7: of one of London's top hotels. 590 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: That's beyond the Pale and I thank you Gavin Gray 591 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: from the UK. Meanwhile, look, he was wondering over the weekend, 592 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: what's happening with Gaza. Apparently Benjamin Yetnia, who says the 593 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: first phase of the Gaza seas far as close to finishing. 594 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: We had the cease fire announced on October the tenth. 595 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Since then, Hamas has released the last twenty living Israeli 596 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: hostages in exchange for two thousand Palestinian detainees. It's handed 597 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: over all but one of the twenty eight bodies of 598 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: the hostages. Israeli forces have withdrawn to a ceasefire line. 599 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: They're now on control. The fifty eight percent of the 600 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: Gaza strip people are still dying though during the ceasefire, 601 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: Israelis killed three hundred and sixty Palestinians, including seventy kids. 602 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: Three Israeli sold just have been killed in Hamas attacks 603 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: over the same period. So what's next, Well, apparently Hamas 604 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: is supposed to disarm, Israeli troops are supposed to withdraw further, 605 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: and then we get this board of peace of world 606 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: leaders to oversee a new Palestine. But you know, it's 607 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: all pretty fragile, and I think what's next is Hamas 608 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: must now disarm or the whole thing is for nount. 609 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: Zibby. 610 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: Well it's ten to six. The mc skimmings saga continues. 611 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: Andrew Costa has made his explosive claims in that interview 612 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: with Jack Taime on Q and A. He said the 613 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: Chris Hipkins and Mark Mitchell both new aspects of the 614 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: case before it became public, which of course they deny. 615 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: Chris hap Con said last week quote, nothing was ever 616 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: raised about any of this during my time as Police 617 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: Minister or Prime Minister, or during the vedding process for 618 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: the Deputy commissioner role. 619 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 9: I don't know what he means when he says none 620 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 9: of this, but I told him that Van told me 621 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 9: that he had an affair that was with a much 622 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 9: younger woman that went badly wrong, and that email allocations 623 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 9: were now flying as a result of it. 624 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: Can you prove it? 625 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 8: No? 626 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: No, so joining us now as lawyer and former cort 627 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: Matthew Hey, go on to to you, Matthew morning. 628 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 6: Andrew. 629 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, he said, he said, situation now, no one 630 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: has proof. 631 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 13: Well it's not only he said he said it, he 632 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 13: said in five other people said something different. 633 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, what do you make of that? 634 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 13: Well, it's sad. I think that we have the former 635 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 13: police commissioner differing on that this is not a different 636 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 13: version or mischaracterization of events. He says he told him. 637 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 13: They say he did not when they say they Chris Sipkins, 638 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 13: Marke Mitchell, Deputy Public Service Commissioner, hit A. Bag Itt 639 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 13: and another senior police officer all differ with cost on 640 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 13: very key and important points. And the IPCA preferred their 641 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 13: version of events over costs, which again is a sad 642 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 13: thing to happen when we're talking about any police officer, 643 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 13: let alone the police commissioner. 644 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: But what did he say? I mean, who knows what 645 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: he says. He might have just said misgivings having an 646 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: affair might have gone right over Hipkins Mitchell's heads. What 647 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: do you think the ministers knew, if anything? 648 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 13: In my opinion, they either knew nothing or as you said, 649 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 13: they were told informally that Mick Swimming had in a 650 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 13: fear some time prior and it had ended badly ords 651 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 13: to that effect. But that's not the point. The point 652 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 13: was that ms Z had made serious allegations of criminal 653 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 13: offending against a step Totory, Theopeter Commissioner, and it doesn't 654 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 13: appear that even Costa says that he told those key. 655 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 3: People that was this interview a good idea for Costa. 656 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: I know he's proud of his name. He believes he 657 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: did nothing wrong. But was this a good idea? 658 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 13: I don't think so. I don't know why he did it. 659 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 13: He apologized the IPSA report was comprehensive. All he's achieved 660 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 13: by giving this interview is to, again, I guess, relictigate 661 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 13: publicly what he told the IPCA and what the IPSA 662 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 13: has already dismissed and preferred other people's versions over his own. 663 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: It shows you that the top of our public service 664 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: is a nest of vipers, doesn't it. 665 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 13: I think it shows that this case Costa was incredibly sloppy, 666 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 13: and I think that continues in some aspects. I don't 667 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 13: know what he's thinking of giving this interview. 668 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Matthew Hagu, and I thank you for your 669 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: time today. Matthew Hague a former police officer now a lawyer, 670 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: and it is seven to six. More on this with 671 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: Heather and Heather's with me next. 672 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: The First Word on the News of the Day Early 673 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickins and r V Super Center explore 674 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: r v's accessories. And servicing all in one news talks. 675 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 3: That'd be so it takes three from Andy look costs 676 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 3: as a cop, what's rule number one? Evidence? He has 677 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 3: none something as important as Mick skimming, and he has 678 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: a couple of casual chats and doesn't keep any notes. 679 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 3: So I think that's a very fair point as well, 680 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: and that I think was made by Matthew haigu he 681 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: Loo Heather. 682 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: To be fair to him. 683 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 12: Jeez, I don't want to be fair to Andrew Costa, 684 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 12: but to be fair to him in Good Morning dickens 685 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 12: to be fair to him. 686 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: He thought it was enoughing. 687 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: So it's probably why there we go, There we go. 688 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: Do you want to be trick? I want to trigger you. 689 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: Let's trigger hither. Let's play a little bit of Just 690 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 3: Sinda with Graham Norton talking about being a hobbit. Oh, 691 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: I should play that. I'll tell you what. I'll play that. 692 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: Here we go. 693 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 14: Half of New Zealand audition and half of New Zealand 694 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 14: starred except for me. All was the That's what I 695 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 14: told myself. I auditioned to be an extra as a 696 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 14: hobbit because I lived I grew up quite close to hobbit. 697 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: All the film, and then she bollocked on about stuff, 698 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: and then she said one of the conditions was that 699 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 3: she was supposed to be able to joust, and that's 700 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: what the Hobbit was asking for. And as Graham rightly 701 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: pointed out, there's no jousting in the Hobbit. And I 702 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: sat there thinking, oh, just Cinda, have you just actually 703 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: stretched the truth a little bit? 704 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 705 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: I just thought that she's very good at riffing. 706 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm so much more generous than you are. Well under, 707 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm not because I went jos. There's no jousting. You 708 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: don't have to jout. I never saw that. 709 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 12: I mean, you know, she's annoying to because we had 710 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 12: to live through it. 711 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: But she's very good at what she does, and she 712 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 5: puts an incredible performance, right, and she smiles, and Kate 713 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 5: Winslet loves her, of course she does. 714 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: And you're on the Breakfast Show and I have to 715 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: go so yep now, of course obviously more on Costa 716 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: and a whole lot more with Heather Duper. See Ellen Next. 717 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. 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