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Speaker 1: It's twenty away from six The Huddle with New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Southby's international realty, unparalleled reach and.

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Speaker 2: Results On the Huddle of Us, Allie Jones read PR

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Speaker 2: Claar to Lord journalist, Hell are you too, Ali? He

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Speaker 2: makes a good point, doesn't he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: It does absolutely, And you know, I think the cost

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Speaker 4: to just say just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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Speaker 4: And I also think that it's important that those scumbags

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Speaker 4: that were filming that are called out, and not only

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Speaker 4: by police but by I don't know people in the

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Speaker 4: media stop doing it. Who do you think you are?

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Speaker 4: Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I suspect clear it's not going to stop.

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Speaker 2: It's only it's just going to increase. The more access

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Speaker 2: we have to each other via the Internet and phones

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Speaker 2: and stuff. This is the future. You've got to choose

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Speaker 2: what you look at.

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Speaker 5: Well, you've got a wonderful sort of basic human decency.

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Speaker 5: You have to live strength on the VP stuff as

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Speaker 5: I understand they were, it's just appalling. I mean, you

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Speaker 5: wouldn't think you'd have to poor people up for it,

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Speaker 5: and I just I don't know how you get through people.

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Speaker 5: But when you come across and seem like that it's

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Speaker 5: not a reality show. It's actually the reality of grim

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Speaker 5: death for the people who are involved. And you should

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Speaker 5: if you can't help, you should move on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, fair point. And now, Allie, do you think the

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Speaker 2: posters have made the right call?

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Speaker 6: Here?

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Speaker 4: Are the wrong call?

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Speaker 5: This is fascinating, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, the union may not like this, and

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Speaker 4: I think this is all being driven by the union.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think it's politically.

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Speaker 4: Driven, you know. I mean unions are generally left. The

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Speaker 4: Wellington City Council is very left leaning. The leaflet is

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Speaker 4: also anti council, critical of what they call over spending.

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Speaker 4: I think that's entirely political. What I'd be interested in

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Speaker 4: is if there wasn't that, And I do think it's

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Speaker 4: misinformation either. I don't think it's catastrophizing or using click

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Speaker 4: bait headlines like the media you do. As you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 4: But if that information about the call, the Islamic call

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Speaker 4: to prayer wasn't in this leaflet, would they still have

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Speaker 4: come out and criticized it. I think it they're lucky

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Speaker 4: there's something in there they can hang their criticism on.

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Speaker 4: But look, I think they're right for not delivering this

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Speaker 4: because of that misinformation. But I do think it's politically driven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Ali, explain to me why you think it's misinformation.

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Speaker 4: Well, my understanding is that there is a comment or

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Speaker 4: something in that pamphlet that suggests that the City Council

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Speaker 4: is going to allow this call to prayer, that there's

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Speaker 4: going to be Islamic calls to prayer across all of Wellington.

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Speaker 4: And in fact, the council has come back and said

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Speaker 4: that they're actually looking at it within their district plan

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Speaker 4: as to whether they can do that or not, that

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Speaker 4: it's not a done deal. So to me, that's misinformation.

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Speaker 4: It's suggesting something that is not actually.

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Speaker 2: What the pamphlet says is the council wants to, But

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Speaker 2: actually the council does, to an extent, want to because

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Speaker 2: it is investigating it.

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Speaker 4: No, that's not true that, No, that's conflating the issue.

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Speaker 4: Just because the council is looking at something doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: that they want to. They're looking at it through their

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that they want to.

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Speaker 2: There are two counselors who want to die. I mean, look, look,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think it's borderline, but there

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Speaker 2: is an element of truth to it. It's not a

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Speaker 2: bald faced lie, is it. It's just slightly wrong.

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Speaker 4: No, but it's missive.

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Speaker 2: It slightly wrong like if you can have it's just

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Speaker 2: catastrophizing what the situation, that's all it is.

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Speaker 4: No, it's misinformation. What you're going to start talking about

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Speaker 4: alternative facts as well? It is misinformation.

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Speaker 2: So in the story, what do you think, Claire.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the story and the main story

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Speaker 5: them to decide the content. And then Post has a

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Speaker 5: responsibility when it agrees to take on something like us

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Speaker 5: to make sure that it's not hateful or atlantical flight

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Speaker 5: your own and business, and the Post thought it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair point.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll take a break, come back and

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Speaker 2: just a just a tack actually.

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Speaker 1: Huddled with New Zealand Southby's International Realty exceptional marketing for

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Speaker 1: every property.

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Speaker 2: And back to the huddle, we have clear de la

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Speaker 2: Journalist Ali Jones read pr Claire. Do you think that

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Speaker 2: that Labour is going to be able to hold this

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Speaker 2: through to the next election? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Who knows. I mean, it's an argument that sort of

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Speaker 3: does my head. And really because we should have a

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Speaker 3: long term bipartisan, multi party agreement on something as important

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Speaker 3: think you know, your interview with Chris Hopkins showed that

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Speaker 3: he's at the moment whether to the very noble aspiration

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Speaker 3: that he would probably be ditching that position.

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Speaker 6: I'd say so too, and.

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Speaker 2: I think Ali has to he probably is going to

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Speaker 6: What do you think? Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's so ahead in the future. I completely agree with

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Speaker 4: with you earlier ahead what a great pussle? Was that fun?

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Speaker 4: You know? I mean really not really. It was really

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Speaker 4: good to listen to both of you, and you both

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Speaker 5: I think what's.

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Speaker 4: Really frustrating here, as Claire said, is that we do

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Speaker 4: Laughed when I heard simmyon Brown talk about no wind

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Speaker 4: and I think geothermal energy. There are ways to do it,

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Speaker 4: we have few choices. And why do we have few

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Speaker 4: a shame, Claire.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how do we ever bridge these gaps though,

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Speaker 2: How do you bridge them?

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Speaker 6: I just don't think. I just don't think we do.

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Speaker 3: We've got a terrible history of being able to look

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Speaker 3: at the longer term in this country. Look at the

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Speaker 3: terrible state of our infrastructure. I know, I'm just saying

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Speaker 6: Put things off for so long. But this is really

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Speaker 3: And even the aspiration, for example, to convert a larger

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Speaker 3: It's charging in storage capacity. There's so many things we

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Speaker 3: them where there's there's an educational angle to it two,

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Speaker 6: I honestly think we're going to remain in.

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Speaker 3: Country that is a very short term, you know, sort

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Speaker 3: because we have a very very short electoral cycle.

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Speaker 6: Three years and there we are this. You know we'll

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Speaker 3: We'll be a mid term when those electricity bills start

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Speaker 4: To right, Well, can I just say to that quickly?

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Speaker 4: We put solar on our house where we had to

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Speaker 4: rebuild it as a sled EQC repair.

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Speaker 5: Best thing we ever did.

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Speaker 4: Our two bills of latest bills over winter have been

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Speaker 4: solar's cost. So you know there are ways to do this,

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Speaker 4: and we sell that the bread as well. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: so your power.

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Speaker 2: Bill then last month, well we.

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Speaker 2: That is a lot of money. Okay, Claire, were you

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Speaker 2: disappointed to hear that the best one hit wonder of

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Speaker 2: all time is Jenny Jenny?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I couldn't even think how it went. I sort

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Speaker 2: Is often they take No. One hit wonder, jeez, what

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Speaker 2: about you, Ali? I mean Jenny Jenny sucks. So I

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Speaker 4: but it was brilliant. But yeah, funky Town was a

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Speaker 4: great a sucky yunchy.

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Speaker 2: I hate I don't know what list you're looking at, clear,

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Speaker 2: I hate to boost your bubble. It's not even on

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Speaker 2: the list. It's I'm a random list you've looked up.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I'm looking at a better list.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at a science list. Guys, thank you both

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Speaker 2: so much appreciated as Allie Jones. I mean, it is

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Speaker 2: a good time, though.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it.

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Speaker 2: You'd go you'd sit through at least twelve of their

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Speaker 2: crap songs at a concert just for this one, wouldn't you?

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Speaker 2: And in fact, I almost did, but I turned up

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Speaker 2: too late, and then I just saw Texas and that

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Speaker 2: that annoyed me?

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Speaker 6: Simple minds?

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Speaker 2: Hate them? Now Texas how good? But I could have

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Speaker 2: seen these guys, and and now I wish I did.

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Speaker 2: Thank you an appreciate that. That's a huddle sleeping away

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Speaker 2: from six.

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