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Speaker 1: In Italy. Joe McKenna, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: What is it teen to nine? Caught to nine? Ah?

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Speaker 2: Yes, thanks for keeping me awake.

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Speaker 1: Ye, no worries at all. My apologies, but we pay

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Speaker 1: you the big bucks. Joe. You never forget that. How

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Speaker 1: what sort of temperature you're sitting in at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's not pleasant. It feels like thirty degrees right now.

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Speaker 2: But we've had as high as thirty seven in Rome

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Speaker 2: today in June.

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Speaker 1: I mean the thing about thirty seven is not the

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Speaker 1: end of the world in Rome and southern Europe, but

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Speaker 1: I mean in June, it's unusual, isn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they're saying that the temperatures are up to

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Speaker 2: five degrees higher than usual as we've seen right across

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Speaker 2: Europe at the moment.

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Speaker 1: And is it relentless?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Day in day out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the funny thing. I think down south in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australia you might get a few hot

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Speaker 2: days and then a bit of a storm and a

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Speaker 2: change of temperature. But here it just goes on and

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Speaker 2: on and on.

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Speaker 1: So you got people in hospital yet, what's happening?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the hospitals are saying there's been a twenty percent

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Speaker 2: increase in the people showing up at emergency rooms. We've

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Speaker 2: had two tourists die on the beaches in Sardinia, probably

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Speaker 2: from a heart attack or overheating. So there's some real

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Speaker 2: concern about the elderly in particular across the country, and

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Speaker 2: also people working outdoors. The government is really issuing alerts

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Speaker 2: saying that people working in construction or working in the

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Speaker 2: fields in agriculture should be out of the sun between

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Speaker 2: twelve thirty and four o'clock in the afternoon exactly.

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Speaker 1: Now, what happens July nine. I'm reading over the week

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Speaker 1: in the White House said this July ninth thing. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's on, maybe it's not dumb. How does how does

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Speaker 1: itly dubtail into that?

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Speaker 2: Well, we know this whole argument about tariffs keeps going

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Speaker 2: around in circles. But today the head of the main

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Speaker 2: Italian business group, Manuele Orsini, was very strong saying that

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Speaker 2: Italy risks losing twenty billion euros in exports and one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand jobs next year if these ten

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Speaker 2: percent tariffs go ahead on European product. Georgia Maloney, the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister has tried to downplay the potential impact, but

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Speaker 2: I think there is real concern in business about what

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Speaker 2: sort of impact it's going to have, not only on

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Speaker 2: food stuffs, luxury goods, leather, pharmaceuticals and machinery as well.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is you're not going to get a deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Vietnam got announced about an hour or two

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Speaker 1: ago and that's twenty percent. And even the special deal

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Speaker 1: with Britain, which is I can't remember what it is

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Speaker 1: it's but they still that's good on cars, but they

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Speaker 1: don't know whether it's on steel. What makes Italy think

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Speaker 1: that they've got some you.

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, exactly. I mean, I think we saw that

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Speaker 2: Georgia Maloney was trying to weasele her way into favor

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Speaker 2: with Donald Trump. They do have a good relationship, but

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be enough to save

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Speaker 2: Italy from any kind of exemption if it hits the

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Speaker 2: rest of europe.

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Speaker 1: An interesting you more more legal entry work visas? What

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Speaker 1: are you looking for? Who you're looking for? Can I come?

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Speaker 1: I always want to. I'd like to be in a

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Speaker 1: Tenian citizen.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen too many specifics, but as we know,

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Speaker 2: the young university graduates are leaving the We've got an

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Speaker 2: aging population and people don't want to have babies anymore.

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Speaker 2: This is one of the lowest birth rates in the

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Speaker 2: world in Italy. So the government is taking drastic action,

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Speaker 2: issuing five hundred thousand new work visas for non EU

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Speaker 2: nationals in the next three to four years. That's going

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Speaker 2: to be interesting. I'm not quite sure where they're going

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Speaker 2: to be. We're how specific and how educated you have

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 1: At the same.

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Speaker 2: Time, you know this government wants to get rid of

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Speaker 2: illegal arrivals.

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Speaker 1: Exactly weird, all right, Joe, you go well, catch up

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Speaker 1: soon as Joe McKenna, who is in Italy this morning.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it funny when you hear people from other countries

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Speaker 1: say all the young people are leaving. My Nephili from

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Speaker 1: Rome a couple of years ago came here, thought we

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Speaker 1: sucked and ended up in Australia saving the time of

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Speaker 1: his life. Be that as it may. So they're leaving Australia.

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Speaker 1: Young people leaving Australia. Young people are leaving Italy. Young

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Speaker 1: people are leaving America. Young people are leaving England. Young

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Speaker 1: people are leaving New Zealand, where all young people Go,

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Speaker 1: Where Are Where they Go?

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