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Speaker 1: So what got done today picked Well, PM had a

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Speaker 1: face to face of course with China's leaders, so that

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Speaker 1: was a big deal. A little bit of glad handing there.

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Speaker 1: I think they got stuck on walls now and we

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Speaker 1: really wanted to talk much about the wars or do

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Speaker 1: anything about them anyway. Our political leedit to Jason Wolves

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Speaker 1: has just a ride back in the country. Jason morning,

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Speaker 1: good morning, makee and you're on the seven five to seven.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no. We took a commercial flight, this time

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Speaker 2: with the Latham Airlines to Chile and then to Lima.

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Speaker 1: I was desperate to give the seven five seven some

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Speaker 1: good raps, given it's been going so well so lately.

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Speaker 1: How's Latam by the way as an airline the day?

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Speaker 2: All right, Oh it's fine. I mean, I can complain

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Speaker 2: about the fact that my headset didn't work very well

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Speaker 2: on the way over there, but I should probably just

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Speaker 2: be telling you the instead of watching movies. I was

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Speaker 2: working very hard on my stories, so that probably was

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Speaker 2: for the best then.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So some McLay wood wall sustainable exports? Was that

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Speaker 1: of any I mean, what the hell happened? Did anything

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Speaker 1: happen at all? Our outside of the g meeting.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean that was the set piece and the

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Speaker 2: mean thing about it. I mean you can look at

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Speaker 2: some of the more what politicians like to call announceables

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Speaker 2: and say that there was some sort of deal with

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Speaker 2: Iceland and a couple of other tries that were signed

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Speaker 2: by McLay. But the main thing about APEX for a

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Speaker 2: small country like New Zealand is really just having some

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Speaker 2: face time. I mean you need to be at these

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Speaker 2: meetings because it's basically the only way that small countries

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Speaker 2: like New Zealand can meet up and have face to

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Speaker 2: face meetings with leaders like Shu jing Ping. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's a bit of an opportunity cost because if we

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Speaker 2: weren't there, everybody would be asking, well, why the hell not.

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Speaker 2: So it's actually good to have the FaceTime and sit

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Speaker 2: down because on an international stage, you know, New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is seen as nice but not particularly relevant a lot

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Speaker 2: of the time, so it needs the Prime Minister to

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Speaker 2: be there to let people know how we can be relevant.

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Speaker 1: And she seemed bullish, didn't he. I mean he had

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Speaker 1: nice words to say about us, which is something I guess,

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Speaker 1: mind you, he'll be backing that up against Trump. Of course,

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Speaker 1: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, I mean they always do have nice words to

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Speaker 2: say to each other in the before the bilateral meeting

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Speaker 2: and the opening comments, and then the robber really hits

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Speaker 2: the road afterwards. When it comes to the actual meetings themselves,

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Speaker 2: most people will be surprised to learn they're only about

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five minutes long when you get into them.

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Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister, Chris Luckson said that China did

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Speaker 2: actually raise its concerns with New Zealand wanting to or

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Speaker 2: looking into joining the orchest Pillar two Pact and just

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Speaker 2: saying basically seeing that that was lining up closer with

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Speaker 2: the US in the Pacific Islands, which China were very

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Speaker 2: not happy about.

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Speaker 1: Any chat about this Chinese port in Peru and the

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Speaker 1: opening of that three and a half billion dollars there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of port and a lot of influence in

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Speaker 1: that part of the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean China are everywhere. I mean at every hotel,

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Speaker 2: Chinese TV were playing the China Daily newspaper around, there's

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Speaker 2: Chinese flags everywhere everywhere. It's basically there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Chinatown activity happening in Lima because they, I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: given so much money to eight, the hosting of Apex

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Speaker 2: and be this sort of China soft power approach to

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Speaker 2: many countries around the world by just injecting money into them,

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Speaker 2: and that's sort of their way of sidling up and

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Speaker 2: becoming friends. So everywhere you go you see China. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I was in Chogham in Samoa a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: ago and it was the same sort of situation there.

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Speaker 2: In fact, at one point a Chogham sign has kind

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Speaker 2: brand for a Chinese company that were building a whole

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Speaker 2: bunch of stuff in Samoa. So it's literally everywhere around

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Speaker 2: the world that you go at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: So what's the story for the day? Jason? You've got

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Speaker 1: to day and lou for the extra time. You're going

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Speaker 1: straight to the office. What's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm heading back now, so I'm an awkward airport

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Speaker 2: and then I've got a couple of like of crosses

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Speaker 2: lined up before having a bit of a nap tomorrow

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Speaker 2: before going back to Parliament because I can't miss the hiccua.

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Speaker 1: Make really I can, but mind Jess, you're employed too, Cavert.

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Speaker 1: Nice to see you, mate, Jason walls, and news talks.

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