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Speaker 1: Now apparently things are not very nice at Karmala hq C.

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Speaker 1: And the vibes are a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Low, and I think the operative word right now is silence.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot being said because the Harris team

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Speaker 2: appears to be searching for a bright spot in the

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Speaker 2: map as these results very very solemn.

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Speaker 1: Hum Now, Democrat and former US Ambassador to New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Mark Gilbert is at Howard University with Karmala's expected to

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Speaker 1: speak and back with us Mark.

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Speaker 3: Hallo and how are there, Kyoto?

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Speaker 1: Now are you hearing that she's expected to speak potentially

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Speaker 1: within the next half.

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Speaker 3: Hour, Yes, absolutely understanding rate where she's going to be speaking.

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Speaker 3: It's very loud, so I apologize for that in the background,

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Speaker 3: but I have to tell you what Dominic said was

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Speaker 3: about as far from the truth as it could be,

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Speaker 3: saying that Kamala Harris has not done a press conference.

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Speaker 3: She's talking to the press multiple times a day, Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump canceled her debate, Donald Trump wouldn't do sixty minutes,

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump wouldn't do town halls. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what Dominic was watching, but it's nothing, but you know,

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Speaker 3: far from the truth. He also talked about how crime

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Speaker 3: was up in America. Crime is way down since Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump was president. So you know, he's giving the New

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Speaker 3: Zealand people inaccurate facts and I think it's pretty disturbing. Mack.

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Speaker 1: Is he speaking in the next half hour. Is it

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Speaker 1: a concetion speech?

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Speaker 3: No, No, not at all. This was always scheduled to

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Speaker 3: be at this time after the polls called in the

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Speaker 3: West Coast. All the states that have been called so

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Speaker 3: far were expected to go to Donald Trump or Kamla Harris,

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Speaker 3: all the battleground states. The numbers are still coming in

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Speaker 3: and people have short memories. You know, Donald Trump came

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Speaker 3: out and said he won the election, you know, back

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, and then the votes to get count

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Speaker 3: it later are Democratic votes. So this race is still there.

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Speaker 3: It was always going to be a margin of the

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Speaker 3: margin of error race, and not a single battleground state

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Speaker 3: has yet to have been called.

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Speaker 1: Do you still hold hope, mat because it sounds like,

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Speaker 1: in the face of all of the evidence that he

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Speaker 1: is going to win tonight. He's a head in the

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Speaker 1: electoral college vote. New York Times has got him winning

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Speaker 1: eighty eight percent. He's leading all the swing states that

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Speaker 1: are counting, you still think that something might come through from.

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Speaker 3: Him, Heather. The New York Times had Hillary Clinton winning

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Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. You know, during this period of time,

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Speaker 3: there hasn't been a single state that has been won

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Speaker 3: or lost by either candidate. Yet that wasn't expected, and

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Speaker 3: people forget Joe Biden. If you remember, Donald Trump came

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Speaker 3: out and claimed victory because he was ahead in all

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Speaker 3: of these battleground states, but when the Democrat votes were counted.

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Speaker 3: Many of the states, the early vote does not counted

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Speaker 3: until after the polls closed. And you know, we are

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Speaker 3: very helpful. We believe that the blue wall holes. We

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Speaker 3: believe she's going to win the city of Omaha, which

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Speaker 3: is one electoral vote, and all the unbelt states are

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Speaker 3: still in play. So the advantage that Kamla Harris has

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Speaker 3: is he has many from pass to victory.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant Mike listen, thank you so much. I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: it and looking forward to hearing from her. That's Mark Gilbert,

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