1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: earlier this year with one roof love where you live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: news talks, they'd be good morning. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: Six after five. We've got the Frontier report out today. 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: We'll look at that. Gavin Gray in the UK for 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: us another day. Another minister with good results from their targets. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: And we've got a smallgas board of out the gate 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: audio this morning from both Trump and Headset at Quanticode. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: The agenda Wednesday, the first of October. Pins and a punch. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Trump reckons from US has three to four days to 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: take his piece, deal or else. But he seems pretty confident. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: So if this happens, I think it will. I don't 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: say that lately because I know more about deals than anybody. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: This what my whole life was best. And they can change, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: and this can certainly change. But we have just about everybody. 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: We have one. 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: Signata that we're near and that segation will pay in 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: how if they don't say, and I hope they're saying 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: for their own good. 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: This weird meeting of generals. The Defense Secretary Pete Headsets 21 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: also gave us speech. He's gone all warrior, he he man. 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 5: The military has been forced by foolish and reckless politicians 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: to focus on the wrong things. In many ways, this 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: speech is about fixing decades of decay, some of it obvious, 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 5: some of it hidden, removing the distractions, clearing the way 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 5: for leaders to be leaders. You might say, we're ending 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 5: the war on warriors. 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: More on that soon, including his comments about fat generals 29 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: to Britain We go now. Starmer's new playbook in full 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: display overnight at the Labour Party conference, where he's basically 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: speaking to a bunch of backstabbing MPs. Don't hate me 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: hate Nigel Faraji, says. 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 6: Britain stams at a fault in the road. We could 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 6: choose decency, or we could choose division, renewal or decline. 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: A country proud of its values, in control of its future, 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 6: or one that su comes against the grain of our 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 6: history to the politics of grievance. 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: What are you even saying? Finally, this morning, doesn't that 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: bring a smile to your face? Simpsons is returning to 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: the big screen. It's been confirmed a sequel to the 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: original two thousand and seven is in the works and 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: will hit theaters. July twenty twenty seven was announced as 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: a poster of a doughnut being grabbed with the tagline 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: Homers coming back for seconds, views. 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: And views you trust to start your day, It's early 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: Ediship with Brian Bridge and one roof love. 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Where you live news talks. He'd be he's gone eight 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: after five nine nine two the number to text great 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: to have your company. The story today will be this 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: about the Frontier report and about the government's response to it. 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: These are tweaks. They're not transformational, you know this is. 52 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 2: And the question will then be is this Luxon's managerialism. 53 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: I spoke to a former MP yesterday from the right 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: and they said, basically, he's a tinker guy. He's not 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: a go in and do the big stuff. But then 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: there is the fact that he's got part of a 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: coalition government and you've got two very different traveling companions, 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: don't you in National and Act? ACT would rather go 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: harder on the regulation? I asked, see more about that 60 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: on Monday. You know what's the problem. Is it the 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: market or is it the regulation? He says, the regulation? 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: So are we going to see the gent Taylor split up? 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: No? 64 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: So why did they let that sort of the idea 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: hang around linger for so long? That's a good question, 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: isn't it. And we know that's not going to happen 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: because Simon Watt says that the response is going to 68 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: be surgical. So basically the message today is don't hold 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: your breath. Were you expecting much anyway? Nine minutes after five, 70 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: news Talk said being. 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 72 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roote Love 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: where you Live, News Talk. 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: Said, be five twelve people getting a bit barred up 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: for property again. Mortgage borrowing up growing now at a 76 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: fast rate, expanding two billion dollars in August. That's the 77 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: second most since the end of twenty twenty one. It 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: is the most the biggest increase outside of prime real 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: estate selling season in that time as well. Home loans 80 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: up five point six percent on the same month a 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: year ago. That is at least an extra twenty billion 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: dollars in mortgage borrowing. And I'm seeing the homes that 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: are being popped up on one roof at the moment. 84 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: Go and check them out. Some very beautiful people are 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: really manicuring the lawns. They've gone to town on the pools. 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: It's all looking very good. Not that it's going to 87 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: turn around quickly, but at least spring is here, and 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: spring is sprung twelve after five yet reaction out of 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: Trump's peace plan with the three to four day deadline 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: for Hamas. It includes an immediate cease fire followed by 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: the disarmament of Hamas and in Israeli withdrawal. Linda Gradstein 92 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: is CBS News correspondent in Jerusalem. Linda, what's the reaction 93 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 2: been or what do we expect the reaction might be 94 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: from Hamas. 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 3: Well? 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 4: It's really hard to tell. The sort of reports are 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: that Harmas is tending towards accepting the deal. They're under 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 4: a life lot of pressure from Kuttar, the Palestinians living 99 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: in Gaza. I have a friend who lives in Gaza 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: and has been displaced numerous times and is barely, you know, 101 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: having such a and she's been having such a hard time, 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: and she wrote me and said, I hate all the 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: Palestinian organizations. I'm sick of all of So. I think 104 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: there is a sense that the population in Gaza certainly 105 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 4: wants the war to end, wants the bombing to end, 106 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: wants to begin to rebuild some semblance of life in Gaza. 107 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: So but at the same time, it's basically Hamas giving 108 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 4: in by saying that it will have no role in 109 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 4: any future government of Gaza, that the area will be demilitarized, 110 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 4: that Hamas will hand over its guns. So all of 111 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: those are things that I think are very difficult for 112 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: Hamasc will Except. 113 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: Do the people in Gaza want Hamas gone too? 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: Well, First of all, you know, it's hard to tell 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: because people are afraid to speak out against Hamas. And 116 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 4: if you do write anything online on social media against Hamas, 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: you will have somebody showing up at your home and 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: threatening you. So people are afraid to speak against Hamas. 119 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: But I think there is a feeling that Hamas. You know, 120 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: Hamas was originally elected in two thousand and six, and 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 4: it was more as a sort of a reaction to 122 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 4: the corruption of the Palestinian authority. And the idea was 123 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: that the people of Hamas, because they were observant Muslims, 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: that they were not corrupt. But I think people really 125 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 4: there are people's lives, you know, there's not people are hungry, 126 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 4: there's enough food, There's no semblance of a normal life 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: in Gaza. People are living intense people have been displaced 128 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: numerous times, many kids haven't gone to school in two years, 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: so I think they're against anything that stopped from which 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: in cases. 131 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: Linda, just on the hostages. Obviously, the families have been 132 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: putting a lot of pressure on net and Yahoo on 133 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: the government being very vocal about that. Are they hopeful, 134 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: you know, are people in Israel hopeful about this or 135 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: just skeptical? 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 4: Well, I think a little bit of both. There's four 137 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: twenty believed to be a love a few days or 138 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: master that it had lost contact. People were holding of 139 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 4: the hearts. 140 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: That was again, Linda, We'll have to leave it there. 141 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry we've we've lost your line, Linda. That's 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: Linda Gradstein, who's the CBS News radio correspondent in Jerusalem, 143 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: on a bit of a dodgy line. Unfortunately, it is 144 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: sixteen minutes after five year on News Talk said, be 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: coming up next, we'll talk to Matt Doosey about the 146 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: health targets, good and bad news on that front. 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 148 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one Roote Love Where you 149 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Live News Talks. 150 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: Five eighteen so Trump speaking at Quantico and was waxing 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: lyrical about the Nobel Peace Prize. This is if the 152 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: Garza piece Stale actually happens. 153 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: Will you get the Nobel Prize? Absolutely not, they'll give it. 154 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: They'll give it to some guy that didn't do a 155 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: damn thing. Go give it to a guy that wrote 156 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: a book about the mind of Donald Trump and what 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: it took to solve the war. So you'll get the 158 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: Nobel Prize. We'll go to a raider now. But well, 159 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: let's see what happens. But be a big insult to 160 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: our country. I will tell you that I don't want it. 161 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: I want the country to get it. 162 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: Brian Bridge, of course you want it. Another Target's update 163 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: this morning. It's on mental health fast access to primary 164 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: care achieved or beaten Specialist service metal beaten. In the 165 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: South Island, the number of people getting access to primary 166 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: support within a week jump from sixty six percent to 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: ninety one percent. This is called a four e D 168 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: wait times for mental health patients long way to go. 169 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: They're the same with staffing. Matt Docy, mental Health Minister. 170 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Good morning morning, Ryan. Are there fewer mental people or 171 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: is the system faster? 172 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 7: Well, the first thing I'd say just a big thank 173 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 7: you to the frontline mental health staff. They do an 174 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 7: amazing job and this is an ability to shine a 175 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 7: light on them. 176 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 8: Look, there's still a long. 177 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 7: Way to go when you look at the veriability within 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 7: the different twenty health districts in New Zealand, But it 179 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 7: comes back to what sort of country do we want 180 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 7: to live in? And that's why I've set targets one 181 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 7: week for primary mental health support and three week for specialists. 182 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but are you improving on some of these figures 183 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: because there are fewer people requiring them or is the 184 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: system faster? 185 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 7: It's definitely faster. So if you look at a primary 186 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 7: mental health over the last four quarters, so we're going 187 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 7: to remember these are the first time we've ever set 188 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 7: targets for mental health in New Zealand, we've now got 189 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 7: twelve months worth of data. It does bounce around to 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 7: weep it. But if you look at primary mental health, 191 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 7: we've seen a significant increase in numbers from around fifty 192 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 7: two thousand people a quarter up to but over sixty thousand. 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: So the numbers of people needing help are going up 194 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: and you're able to get them through even faster than 195 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: when they were fewer. 196 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 7: Very much so, because when these targets increase, as in 197 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 7: the percentage of people are getting one week support or 198 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 7: three week the inverse is happening, which means the wasting 199 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 7: time is actually going down, which means more people can 200 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 7: be seen. And when you think about mental health, it's 201 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 7: a real red flag for people to be stuck on 202 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 7: weightless and so actually timiness is important. So that's why 203 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 7: three out of the five targets are around access. 204 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: How did these improvements compare to pre COVID? You know, 205 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: are we just getting back to where we were or 206 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: are we even better than that? 207 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 208 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 7: The difficulty is this is the first time we've set 209 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 7: targets for mental health in New Zealand, so as the 210 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 7: first mental health minister when I came in to set 211 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 7: these targets. So now we've only got twelve months versus 212 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 7: worth of data. But just to be clear, I'm not 213 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 7: a tar fundamentalists. For me, the magic of these targets 214 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 7: is to have a line in the sand and work 215 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 7: with my officials to say what worked well to get 216 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 7: us there, what didn't work so well, what can we 217 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 7: improve next time? And you get that continuous improvement approach. 218 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: All of this. Does all of this mean that we'll 219 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: have fewer suicides? 220 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 7: Well, Ultimately, what we want to do is ensure people 221 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 7: in distress get support as quick as possible and hopefully 222 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 7: that will lead to fewer suicides. 223 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: Because what's the rate of how many deaths are used 224 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: by suicide in New Zealand? 225 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 7: Well sadly last year we lost six hundred and seventeen kiwis. 226 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 7: We haven't got the latest provisional statistics that will come 227 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: out I think by the end of October. 228 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: What would you like that to be? You know you've 229 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: got to target all that. 230 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 7: No, we don't have a target for our suicide numbers 231 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 7: because clearly one suicide is too many. I think when 232 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 7: you look at the rate per population, you know we're 233 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 7: working for that to be declining. 234 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: Matt Dooc, mental Health minist Appreciate your time. Twenty two 235 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: after five News Talks AB. 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 237 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: News Talks AB. 238 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: News Talks B twenty four minutes after five, Let's go 239 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: back to QUANTICOA Shelby because it's just too good not to. 240 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: This is Pete Higgsseth. He's the Defense sectory and he's 241 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: the one with the really slipped back here. He's always 242 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: looking immaculate, always wearing a nice suit, or he'll be, 243 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, in some sort of military get up if 244 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: he's on the road. Anyway, he's given a speech to 245 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: the generals, to the fat generals. 246 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: It's tiring to look out at combat formations or really 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: any formation and see fat troops. Likewise, it's completely unacceptable 248 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 5: to see fat generals and admirals in the wholes of 249 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: the Pentagon and leading commands around the country in the world. 250 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: It's a bad look. It is bad and it's not 251 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 5: who we are. So whether you're an airborne ranger or 252 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: a chairborne ranger, a brand new private or a four 253 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: star general, you need to meet the height and wheat 254 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 5: standards and pass the PT test. 255 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's now introduced daily You've got to. It doesn't 256 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: matter where they're at the very top or the very bottom. 257 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: You will do daily PT sessions and you will be 258 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: checked and weighed twice a year. He's also gone after 259 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: the DEI policies. 260 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: This administration has done a great deal from D one 261 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: to remove the social justice, politically correct and toxic ideological 262 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 5: garbage that had infected our department. To rip out the politics. 263 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 5: No more identity months DEI officers, dudes, in dresses. As 264 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 5: I've said before, and we'll say again, we are done 265 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 5: with that shit. 266 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: Brian Bridge, I'd get the message. Five twenty five News 267 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Talk said b There's nothing quite like watching a well 268 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: thought out strategy coming together and working. And hats off 269 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: to South Korea this morning because they're absolutely caning it 270 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: on tourism. The government set a goal there are thirty 271 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: million visitors a year by twenty thirty. In two thousand 272 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: and five they had six million, last sixteen million. This 273 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 2: year they'll hit twenty And this is not by chance, 274 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: it's by design. They've got government and business coming together 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: and going all in on infrastructure and law changes, a 276 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff. They're extending an electronic visa free 277 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: travel pass. They will have integrated ticketing for all your 278 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: public transport by the start of next year. You can 279 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: use the same pass for major tourist attractions. Imagine catching 280 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: the Wahiki ferry and doing the luge all on one pass. 281 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: Big push on regional tourism. But their secret source is 282 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: a cultural takeover of movies, TV shows and music. That's 283 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: another industry that they bought into big time and now 284 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: it's paying massive dividends. For them dividends we could only 285 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: dream of. We know this works. We had Lord of 286 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: the Rings. Remember, almost four hundred million people around the 287 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: world have watched a little show called k Pop Demon Hunters. 288 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: Go and watch it on Netflix or don't, but it's 289 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: their most watched show ever. And now every kid is 290 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 2: begging their parents to go to South Korea. This is 291 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: not to bitch and moan and say that we should 292 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: be doing or something our government has or is at 293 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 2: least trying to pull together similar schemes here. This is 294 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: simply to say, what an impressive operation to watch the 295 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Koreans planning and executing and getting results. It's something that 296 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: should excite us. The Saudis are going big on gaming. 297 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: The Irish rolled out the red carpet for big tech. 298 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Captain Judith Collins this week reckons our next big thing 299 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: should be space. We are world leaders in agriculture, so 300 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: what do we want to add to that list? And 301 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: how can we follow South Korea's lead and make a 302 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: plan to get there? Ryan Bridge twenty seven after five 303 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: news talks, there be labor coming under a bit of pressure. 304 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: This is on capital gains tax. You might have seen 305 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: this in the news, so there's a couple of remember 306 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: that group of people who came out and said this 307 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: was a couple of years ago, the high net worth 308 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: individuals people came out and wrote that open letter and said, hello, everybody, 309 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: we have money and we would like to pay more tax. 310 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: And you think, well, you just go and pay more, 311 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: donate it for goodness sakes. Anyway, they've come out and 312 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: they are putting the pressure on Labor over a capital 313 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: gains tax. So at the moment, Labor has not announced 314 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: a plan, has not said what their tax plan is 315 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: going to be. But these guys are saying, whatever it is, 316 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: it needs to exclude only the family home. Capital gains 317 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: tax is only going to achieve our objectives, which they 318 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: say are funding public health, nutritious school lunches, to kids 319 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: getting rid of homelessness, responding to climate change, all of 320 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: this important stuff. So they say the only way to 321 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: achieve that is to have as wide a scope as possible, 322 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: covering all other significant assets outside the family home, including 323 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: those held by companies and trusts. What's more, they are 324 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: saying that the gains need to be taxed at rates 325 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: similar to other sources of income, so i e. Your 326 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: marginal income rate, which could be up to thirty nine percent. 327 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: So that is the kind of pressure that labor is 328 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: under from the left, far left as they make these decisions. 329 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: So the question then becomes how far left do they 330 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: go and does that count them out come election time 331 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: next year? Twenty twenty six, it's all on five twenty 332 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: nine on News Talk ZB. We'll get to our correspondent 333 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: after news. We'll also talk about this Frontier report before six. 334 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with 335 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof Love. 336 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 2: Where you Live News Talks B twenty four away from 337 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: the Sex News Talks d be coming up. We're going 338 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: to the UK with Gavin Gray. Then we'll talk about 339 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: this energy report that's coming out at eight o'clock this morning. 340 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: Michael have more on that for you later on Ryan. 341 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: As commander in chief, will Trump have to pass the 342 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: height and weight test? I highly doubt that. Hey, we've 343 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 2: got a week until exactly week on the clock now 344 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: till we get our ocr call from our reserve bank. 345 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: Across the Tasman, the RBA held steady at three point 346 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: six percent yesterday. It was a unanimous decision. It was 347 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: also expected they dropped twenty five points in August. Our 348 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: inflation over there is ticking up. It's ticking up to 349 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: three percent. This is for the August number. They have 350 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: a strong labor market, which we know we don't have. 351 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: Well it's not as strong here anyway, but a strong 352 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: labor market over there is hacking away at their budget 353 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: deficit because the more workers you have paying more tax 354 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: means you have more revenue as a government. So that's 355 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: a good story for them. It is twenty three to six, 356 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. New goals the need and getting in on 357 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: the target game, that seems. New goals to attract investment 358 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: and talent Color Proctors will us Coling. Good morning morning, Ryan. 359 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 9: This is an initiative just launched by Business South here. 360 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 9: They've unveiled a growth plan this morning which is aimed 361 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 9: at attracting new investment and talent to Dunedin. So the 362 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 9: goals include growing up to one hundred and fifty new 363 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 9: businesses a year by twenty twenty nine and boosting tourism 364 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 9: revenue here by one hundred and twenty million dollars annually 365 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 9: by twenty thirty four. They also wanted to deliver more 366 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 9: than fifteen thousand high value jobs in less than a 367 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 9: decade and grow MIRII owned businesses by one hundred and 368 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 9: twenty nine percent in four years. So some big targets. 369 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 9: The CEO is Mike Collins. He says it's a clear 370 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 9: blueprint to elevate the city. He says, yes, the goals 371 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 9: may be stretched, but are going to be remarkable with 372 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 9: many motivated people backing the growth. 373 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather? 374 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 9: Showers hail, snow clears this morning, then charts of an 375 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 9: evening shower later today. The high just ten today. 376 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: Cheers Callum. Good to have you on as always. Courtneys 377 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: in christ Church Courtney, good morning, Good morning Ryan. So 378 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: counsel sports and Rex prices are up. 379 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 10: Yes, so a pre paid annual gym and pull membership 380 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 10: now costs one thousand dollars a year, which is increase 381 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 10: of fifty dollars, and the entry to the hydroslides has 382 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 10: increased by fifty cents to sixteen dollars. The Council's head 383 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 10: of Recreation, Sports and Events, Nigel Cox, says inflation has 384 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 10: caused costs to climb. He says the hikes a link 385 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 10: to increase staff and utility costs, but he ensures there's 386 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 10: no relation to Padakiore or Tikaha Stadium building projects. 387 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: Is the hydra slide up fifty cents to sixteen dollars? 388 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: Is that for a daily pass or is that for 389 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: an annual pass? I believe that's for a daily pass. 390 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty steep, isn't it. 391 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 10: I'll double check that, but I'm pretty sure it's a 392 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 10: daily pass. 393 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: That's a lot of money for to go down to slide, 394 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: especially if you've got four kids. Know anyway, how's the weather? 395 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 10: Rain developing this morning was snow lowering to four hundred 396 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 10: meters before clearing to find early this afternoon a high 397 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 10: of fifteen. 398 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: Nice one, Thank you, Courtney. I suppose you could ration it. 399 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: You could say you've been good today, you get the 400 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: slide and the rest of you. Well, you're in the pool. 401 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: Max and Wellington. Hey Max, good morning. You've got another 402 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: challenge to the gang patch. Been in court? 403 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, seeing a bit of this through the court system lately. 404 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 8: Had a story a couple of weeks ago a man 405 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 8: who successfully got his Mongrel mob patch back from police 406 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 8: took it to court that had been seized in a 407 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 8: traffic stop three point thirty am riding his bike through 408 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 8: Lower Hut without a license. A judge decided there was 409 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 8: no public disorder though because no one was around. Now 410 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 8: you've got this Nomad's member convicted of wearing a gang 411 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 8: cap it had a Nomad's logo on it to a 412 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 8: community event recently to celebrate the reopening of the local 413 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 8: pool in the Hut. He has already been convicted over 414 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 8: this and unsuccessfully appealed, but he's taking it further. This 415 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 8: nineteen year old manor a pt Brown asking the High 416 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 8: Court to issue a declaration of inconsistency i e. Inconsistent 417 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 8: with the Bill of Rights of freedom of expression. He 418 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 8: argues his nomad's cap is a little different to an. 419 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: All Blacks or warrior's hat. 420 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 8: The Nomads are his team, I suppose his team that 421 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 8: he supports. If successful, it would go back to Parliament. 422 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 8: The decision reserved. 423 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: Right distinct defense And how's weather? 424 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 8: Some rain developing through today? Strong winds fourteen. 425 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: Cheers Max Neva and Auckland. Morning Neva, good morning. We've 426 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: got a new development happening around the city railing. 427 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 11: Yes we have, and I can tell you that the 428 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 11: sod's been turned. This is Auckland's first major development build 429 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 11: around the city RAILINGK. So it's the twenty one story 430 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 11: at Symphony Center now that's been built over to Yhadle 431 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 11: to your station. That's on the corner of Meryl Drive 432 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 11: in Wellesley Street. So this is that six hundred and 433 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 11: fifteen million dollar project. It's going to include, you know, 434 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 11: the residential the commercial office space should be completed, expected 435 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 11: to be completed by twenty twenty nine. Let's see if 436 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 11: that happens. RCP Project development director says, Obviously, you know, 437 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 11: this project's going to pivot off the CRLs traffic round 438 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 11: about thirty thousand people predicted to be traveling through, and 439 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 11: that's on top of all that retail offering that they've got. 440 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 11: So they're hoping that, you know, they'll be able to 441 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 11: be successful and get all grab all that those people there. 442 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: Have you managed to sort out our exclusive sneak peak 443 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: to the city railing you know, how are we going 444 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: to go on there together? 445 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 11: Yes, that's right. 446 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: Have you managed to sort that out? You we need 447 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 2: to get on there. Yes'll probably be waiting another year. 448 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 11: So you really want do you want your own? 449 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: I think we should. I think you and I should 450 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: go down. We can get some cameras from the heral 451 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: to come with us. I think that would be great 452 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: and go down there and just see what it's like. Yes, 453 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: you know, and. 454 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 11: Are we going to busk as well? Like while we're 455 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 11: just going to go and see what it's like. Well, 456 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 11: you can sing, I'm going to take my triangle. I'll 457 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 11: hold the cap. We should go down I think that 458 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 11: would be fun. 459 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: That's a good idea. 460 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 11: And let's go and see an and just paint the picture. 461 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 11: Yeah exactly, Okay, right, you're on. 462 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: And if it's crap, we'll tell you. 463 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 11: Yes, you know, and what if they say no? What 464 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 11: if the bosses he said no, we don't want you 465 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 11: to going down there. 466 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: Well do we? We just won't ask them. Yeah, we'll 467 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: just go correct. How's that weather? 468 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 11: Cloudy? Chance of a shower late morning? Eighteen is the 469 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 11: high summer is coming? 470 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: Brilliant neither. Eighteen to six News Talk z B Gavin 471 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: Gray in the UK. Next, so we'll talk about an 472 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: energy report that's coming out today. Speaking of energy over 473 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 2: in California, the governor there, Gavin Newsom, who's you know, 474 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: anti fossil fuels, led a crusade against fossil fuel companies. 475 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: He's now doing a bit of a U ten. 476 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: Lord makers changing that too, and on fossil fuels, they 477 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: hope to keep oil and gas companies in the state. 478 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: What yeah, as a turned around right change? 479 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 12: Hard? 480 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: It certainly is. And this is the boss of Chevron, 481 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: Andy Waltz, who's going after him. 482 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 13: I think it's been a tyranny of about twenty five 483 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 13: years of trying to get the refining business to leave California. 484 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 13: They've been putting in regulations and bureaucracy and taxes and 485 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 13: programs to push us out of the state. 486 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 2: So it's not a great time if you're a climate 487 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: scientist or one of the Green party MPs. So it's 488 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: not a great time for you, is it? Because everyone, 489 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: even your friends and allies, are basically turning a blind eye, 490 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: turning a cold shoulder to the oil and gas debate. 491 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: Now quarter to six international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, 492 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: peace of mind for New Zealand business Kevin. 493 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: Grayand the UK for US Chinese national pleading guilty to 494 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: money laundering. 495 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 14: This is over cryptocurrency, yes, and a massive amount of 496 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 14: bitcoin here we're talking about Ryan estimated to be worth 497 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 14: now something around eleven billion. 498 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 15: New Zealand dollars. So a Chinese national called Yadi Jiang, 499 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 15: she's forty seven, was arrested in April last year. She'd 500 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 15: spent years on the run, arriving in the UK under 501 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 15: a false Caribbean passport having carried out what is an 502 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 15: alleged investment scan in China involving round three one hundred 503 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 15: and thirty thousand investors, and that scheme netting her this 504 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 15: incredible figure. It's been said now police first raided her 505 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 15: eleven million dollar six bedroom rented house in North London, 506 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 15: but it wasn't for two and a half years after 507 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 15: that before investigators discovered what was on the computer sixty 508 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 15: one thousand bitcoin in digital wallets, one of the biggest ever, 509 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 15: if not the biggest ever cryptocurrency seizures in the world. 510 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 15: The Chinese investors want that money back. The British government 511 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 15: is saying, well, hang on a minute, because it was 512 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 15: brought here. We've now got it, and I have to 513 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 15: tell you that five pounds is something our chance to 514 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 15: resigning as it would help fill a huge hole in 515 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 15: the finances here. Now suffice to say that the court 516 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 15: is meeting again in order to now decide a sentence. 517 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 15: But this case is quite extraordinary and it seems they 518 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 15: almost stumbled upon the bitcoin by accident. 519 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: Gavin, what about the British military personnel taking legal election? 520 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: What's this about? 521 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 15: Well, this is because British military personnel obviously are standing 522 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 15: near and firing off very loud equipment and what many 523 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 15: are saying is that they have had life changing injuries 524 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 15: like tinatus that ringing in the air constantly and also deafness. Now, 525 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 15: they were wearing combat ear plugs for use while training, 526 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 15: which they are alleging is what was responsible, because they 527 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 15: said they did not do the job. The US industrial 528 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 15: giant called three MS supplied the Ministry Defense here with 529 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 15: these lightweight combat ear plugs and they say, well, they 530 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 15: weren't being used properly. That's why some people have suffered injuries. However, 531 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 15: the company has already agreed to pay out roughly ten 532 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 15: billion New Zealand dollars to settle similar claims from a 533 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 15: court of a million US servicemen and women, but they 534 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 15: have not admitted liability. So now here in the UK 535 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 15: veterans are going to court hoping that they may get 536 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 15: something out of three M as well. Incidentally, rates of 537 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 15: hearing problems in veterans to the armed forces under seventy 538 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 15: five years old are three and a half times higher 539 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 15: than the general population. 540 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 2: Kevin appreciate Thatkevin Gray are UK europe correspondent time as 541 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: twelve to six Bryan Bridge eight am. Will get the 542 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: Frontier report, We'll get the government's action plan. This is 543 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 2: happening very soon. Industry leaders calling for bold moves. Karen 544 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: Boys's Major Electricity Users group with us this morning. Karen, 545 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning, Ran. Have you had a look 546 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: at the report yet? Have you give me a copy? 547 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 16: No? No, So, just like you and many others, I'm 548 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 16: sitting here waiting for that eight o'clock deadline for it 549 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 16: to come out. 550 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: Are you are you holding your breath or are you 551 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: actually realistic that this is going to be more tweaks 552 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: than bold moves. 553 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 16: It's really I mean, I'd like to be optimistic and 554 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 16: hope they've listened to the calls from everybody. I said, 555 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 16: the mood of the boardroom was pretty clear that, you know, 556 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 16: energy is real concerns. So I hope they've been bold, 557 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 16: but I think sadly I'm going to have to be 558 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 16: realistic about what they might choose to do. 559 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 2: How do you feel about LNG. 560 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 16: It's yeah, I said it we certainly helped with bringing 561 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 16: in fuel. I said, obviously we're running out of domestic gas. 562 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 16: And I said, any options to explore domestically, I said, 563 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 16: we'll have time if we do discover anything to bring 564 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 16: it to market. LNG does link us at international markets, 565 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 16: which means that the cost could be quite high. So 566 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 16: I said, it doesn't mean it's a cheap option that country. 567 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 16: It just provides you with I guess, more guaranteed supply. 568 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: And what about the access to it? You know, who 569 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: would get access to it? What would the cost be? 570 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: Are those things that you've looked into that you're worried. 571 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 16: About, you haven't looked at it in detail? 572 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: I said. 573 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 16: The big question will be is lergy available for everybody? 574 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 16: And so that means the electricity generators as well as 575 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 16: users of guests directly, because they said industrial users are 576 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 16: finding it increasingly hard to get gas at all. So 577 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 16: I said, be keen to understand could they access it 578 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 16: and what is the cost, because that'll really decide whether 579 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 16: that can afford to use it or have to try 580 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 16: and transition, or yet make the hard decisions to perhaps 581 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 16: stop business. 582 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: Can you paint a picture for us, Karen, how bad 583 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: will things get? You know, your major in electricity users group, 584 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: your big clients, your big members. What happens if we 585 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: don't sort this out? 586 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 16: I said, some of the businesses at the moment who 587 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 16: are struggling to get gas supplies, we'll have to make 588 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 16: the hard decisions about whether they can convert over to 589 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 16: electricity this case, some of them can. I said, then 590 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 16: we're faced with a large demand coming to the electricity 591 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 16: system and we're going to be faced with having to 592 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 16: build a head to build fast. The question is can 593 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 16: we get the network built out in advance of this, 594 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 16: Can we get the generation built? Can we get it 595 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 16: connected to the system? There's going to be a lot 596 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 16: of pressure on the system. And I said, we've already 597 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 16: facing high cost, So I said, you're going to see 598 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 16: a real risk a lot of businesses are going to 599 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 16: have to reduce production shutdown. That is a real concern. 600 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 16: There are a number of businesses that who do have 601 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 16: long term contracts, so that there are a number who 602 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 16: will probably be able to get whether it out for 603 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 16: a while. Sort of question is how long? And the 604 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 16: worst thing is we might miss opportunities like data Center 605 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 16: is another other technology and innovations that might want to 606 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 16: come here that might decide not to. As I were 607 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 16: resolusing what we've got and we're also restolusing what might 608 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 16: have companies. 609 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: Karen, appreciate your time this morning, Karen Boys major Electricity 610 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: Users group. That report out eight o'clock this morning. Michael 611 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: had more on it for you later on. 612 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on Iheard Radio Early Edition 613 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where you Live 614 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: news Talks. 615 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: They'd be six to six on news Talks. They'd bear 616 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: spoke to the sin Lay boss yesterday and he was 617 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: saying after the Poconos sale, obviously going to save their 618 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: bacon a little bit, but he was saying for their 619 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: Dune sandal plant, they have just signed a new contract 620 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: for energy and it is double what it was for 621 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: the last one and it's an extra six million dollars 622 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: to them. Today the Frontier report comes out. There is 623 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: the big energy report in the government's big response to it. 624 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: And there was no one more excited about that than Mike, 625 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: who's in the studio. Mike, good morning. 626 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 12: I've read it and without breaking embargoes because the reason 627 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 12: they're doing it. This morning is for market reaction. They 628 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 12: don't want to come out and the market goes all 629 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 12: weird about it. But it's without giving it away. I 630 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 12: cannot help but think. I mean, it depends what your 631 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 12: problem is. So what's your problem with the power market? 632 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 12: So power's too expensive? 633 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: Right? 634 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 12: Why is it too expensive? Because we don't produce enough power, 635 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 12: so we need to produce more power. The industry would 636 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 12: argue they're going to produce more power with renewables and 637 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 12: they're on track to do that. And the main reason 638 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 12: was short in these last couple of winters is because 639 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 12: the gas is running out. The spot price went up, 640 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 12: we didn't have enough coal. The coal thing's been sorted, 641 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 12: you know. Yesterday the Commist Commission came out and said. 642 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: We approve of this. Like what else were you going 643 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: to do? Anyway? 644 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 12: So everyone's got together and they're agreeing to burn lots 645 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 12: of Indonesian and local coal and all of that's fantastic. 646 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 12: So what is it that's broken that we're looking for 647 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 12: today that they're going to be able to do now? 648 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 12: Shane Jones will say, or many people will argue, what 649 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 12: you need to do is split gentailors, so to do 650 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 12: they're not going to do and I but this is 651 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 12: not from the press release. Just in case I'm breaking 652 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 12: in a barger I've been told previously that they were 653 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 12: never going to do that. So what you're going to 654 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 12: get today, in my humble opinion, is not a lot. 655 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: But what you mentioned, what problem are they trying to solve? 656 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: None of us is going to fix the twenty twenty 657 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: six crunch that we are expecting will do so next 658 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: year we could have some blackouts. Regardless of what happens. 659 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 12: We will know we want well, they would argue, we're 660 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 12: not because we got enough coal. So the Cold Deal 661 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 12: alone will keep huntly going to the point that we're 662 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 12: not going to So that saved the day, that Cold 663 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 12: Deal one hundred percent. So long term, as far as 664 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 12: everyone I've talked to in the power industry says, there's 665 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 12: plenty of money going in and we're doing solid. Eventually 666 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 12: we'll get there. So is today about the hero and now? 667 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 3: Not? 668 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: Really? 669 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 12: Is today about something bigger? Theoretically? Is it going to 670 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 12: profoundly change the way the market runs? I can't see how. 671 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: And then the question is is this Luxeon and his 672 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: incremental managerialism not wanting to make big calls or is 673 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: he just hamstrung buying party on his left and party 674 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: on is right. It's a good question. 675 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 12: Actually, I think it was the former. I think it's 676 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 12: that little you know. I think he sees things are 677 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 12: bigger than they actually are and they go, hey, wait 678 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 12: till you're here today, and it's like, really. 679 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: That's the problem. Key and That were really good at underplaying, 680 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, over delivery. 681 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 682 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 683 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.