1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Tim Wilson's with us, along with Kate Hawk's be good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 2: Good good mind. 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember when we got people booing? 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to raise this booing thing because 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 3: I think booing is solo rench. I'm very disappointed in 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: a deepec chow for audience for doing it all because 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: they should be alls in. And also I want to say, 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: regarding people who hate you, then the dog goes. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it much either. 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: It's not including the dog, it's someone arriving at the house. 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: Regarding people who hate you, they're usually people who don't 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 3: listen to you, don't know you, because to. 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Know you is to love you, to know you as 14 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: to like you a bit. 15 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: More, people to know you as to not hate you 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: quite as much. I think they're boiled. 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: Well, you want you want, Jeremy pivenover. I mean it 18 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: was hard work was but but it was great lastening. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Let me come back to in the moment, what did 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: I say for Cooper twenty sixteen? So no, it was 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, twenty eleven. I wanted to say twenty eleven 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: or twenty twelve, but I didn't think I was on 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: the radio then. But it was wasn't. I. In fact, 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: I was on the radio in eighteen twenty two, So 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: what do I say? Anyway? So Pipen, now talk to 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: me about Pivveen, Tim, talk to me about your review 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: of Jeremy Piven Loo. 28 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: I thought okay. I gave it okay with ten out 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: of ten because it was it was real. So when 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 2: you scolded him turn off your phone, he's like, oh, 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: the lightings and here's crap, but he's still it was. 32 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: What we loved about was the tension between you know, 33 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: the fake celebrity interview. Yeah, I love it. This is beautiful, 34 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: Lafe is fantastic. There was also this counter narrative of 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about you. The lighting's crap in here. Oh, 36 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm here to sell something. I'm funny, 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: are you though? Are you really? It's brilliant? 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Okay, very nice. What's your review? Caddy? 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: Ah? I thought that work. I thought you two weren't 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: quite on the same page. 41 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: No, I weren't. 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: I just didn't learn anything. I just didn't think he 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: brought anything to the table other than he parents and 44 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: he thinks age is just a number. I didn't really 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: learn anything more about him. 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: I don't. 47 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 3: I don't know that. He was conversational and convivial and 48 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: chatty in a way that I probably would have enjoyed 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: a bit more if he actually brought something to the table. 50 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Okate, I reckon. It was in the spaces and the 51 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: stuff below what he said and the awkward gaps. Yeah. Yeah, 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, what's what's the most important thing 53 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: in radio? 54 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: The gaps? 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: Dead air? Yea, their gaps? You got it? You got it? 56 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: Asking And so when he said, you know, I'm. 57 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: Not sing you avoid in radio dead air? 58 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: The well, here's there's no dead air in this segment? 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: What am I talking about? 60 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: It is actually Sam's fault because we had no we 61 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: had we had him on a couple of months ago, 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: and he struck me at the time as being slightly eclictical, weird, 63 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: and I thought, so that was when I said, so 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: let's not get it, and I said something like when 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: you're here, come on in, which of course I never mean. 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: But so Sam takes that stuff seriously. So Sam takes 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: this stuff seriously, and he gets him in and he 68 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: sees Jeremy Pippin's coming in tomorrow and I go, oh, 69 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: why are we doing that, and he goes, because you said, 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: when you're here, come on in. Do I take you seriously? 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Anyway comes in the studio. He comes in the studio 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: and he's sitting in the studio and he's got his 73 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: headphones in and I'm out doing doing doing other stuff. 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: And I come into the studio and I walk into 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: the studio and I go Jeremy Piven, thinking he'll say 76 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: something like my casking you know, and off we go. 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: He looks up from his whatever he's listening to on 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: the phone. He goes yes, and I go Mike, Mike Costing, 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: and he goes hello, And then he said, I said, 80 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: what are you tuned into something? He goes an endless loops? 81 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Just an endless loop of music. It's just an endless 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: loop of music. And I'm thinking, okay, you're like anyway 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: I thought he was. I could. I cannot work him 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: as one of those rare things. I can't work out 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: as to whether he was bantering with me and he's 86 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: genuinely that's just his sense of humor, right, and or 87 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: whether he hates me and he hated the interview. He 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: walked out of the interview. He said, that's the worst 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: interview I've ever done. He walks out of the studient 90 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, which it wasn't, because I didn't think, 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, I don't know, 92 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: he's not. 93 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: Necessarily not the worst interview you've ever done. 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: It's weird say that. Well, well, it's just. 95 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: Though it was. Was he affable at least, very affable, 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: very likable, very likable. 97 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: We're sitting there chatting away. The best part of it 98 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: was that he handed me He's got this thing about 99 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: Joe Parker, right, and he was going to be at 100 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: a show last night, Joe Parker, and as he had 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Asanya and I didn't believe him anyway. So he goes 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: and hands me his phone. He turns his phone on, 103 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: he hands me his phone to show me the Joe 104 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Parker texts. And it's only after that and I thought, 105 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: that's an unusual thing for you to do, to hand 106 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: me the phone, because sure enough people get nervous around phones. 107 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: And as soon as he handed me the phone and 108 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: I started looking at the text. Of course, what would 109 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: many a hosts do? 110 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well look for the other stuff, right. 111 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: But there's that one of those entertaining side. It was 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: one of those entertaining sciences. See, I think you're wrong. No, 113 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I think I think you're wrong there till I don't 114 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: think entertaining silences work at all. Anyways. Of course, if 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: you watch the video, you can see it in his face. 116 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: He suddenly realizes he's handed his phone over to what 117 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: he clearly assumes is some crazed idiot, and he needs 118 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: to be desperate to get back the phone, so he 119 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: leaps up and he grabs the phone off me. It 120 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing anyway. 121 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: That's I also think that just maybe to give him 122 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: a tiny bit of credit. I think often, especially Americans, 123 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: they don't realize how quick the interviewers, and especially if 124 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: they come into the studio, they're sort of thinking, I've 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: come all into the studio, I'm sitting down, the lights 126 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 3: are on, I'm here for half an hour or just 127 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: ease into it, and they just sort of starting come 128 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: up and you go, okay, thanks very much. 129 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: It could it could be a little it could be 130 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: a little bit podcast. You couldn't Most people think the 131 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: whole thing is going to last an hour when it's 132 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: really only going to be seven minutes. Now, exciting news 133 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: for you Katie's pickleball league was launched this week. The 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: pickleball league was launched this week. Do you want to join? 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: No, you can't join. There's a waitlist and what No, 136 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: so he's permanently injured. 137 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: That's true. I don't want to add to that. 138 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, let's hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, pull that back. 139 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm getting the splint off on Tuesday. I should be fine, 140 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: are you? 141 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: What? What hands the splint on? Is that your pickleballs 142 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: on my right? 143 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: It's I'm very ambidextro. 144 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: The problem, Katie is if I could be And I 145 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: don't mean to criticize you, and God bless you for 146 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: launching a pickleball league, but to launch it in winter 147 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: is troublesome, isn't it. 148 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 3: Well we're reviewing that. 149 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, apparently there's a weight list though I can't get in. 150 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Or is there they just to come along? 151 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: Is that because it's raining. 152 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: I'll join you to the wait list? 153 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: No, no problems is the wait list? Can you blackball 154 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: somebody you know? Does the committee meet and they go, well, 155 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Sharon's next up on the list. Do we like Sharon 156 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: and you blackball? 157 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: No? 158 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: No? No blackballing first and first served? 159 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: No, problems. 160 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Glenn said to me this week, visa be the payway chargers. 161 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: He said, I don't can't believe that. You said, so 162 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: the business where you stick your card into the slot 163 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: and you don't get charged. I didn't know that. He said, what, 164 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I can't believe you said that out loud. 165 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: That's right, I couldn't believe it either. I'm with Glenn. 166 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: It's so embarrassing most of what you say out loud. 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: You and also sex embarrassing being with you in shops 168 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: because you just tat and go and you don't even 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: know they could have put ten million dollars there. You 170 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: never know how much. 171 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: He taps and goes. Or he says, can I do crypto? 172 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: And that's that's exactly even more embarrassed. 173 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: So I think put it, put it, and he's like, 174 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: I don't understand it's. 175 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: But this is but this is perfect, this is like, 176 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: this is why you those who can insert it it's brilliant, 177 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: because everyone who doesn't it's a laziness tax, it's a 178 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: stupidity tax. It's a it's well and it's technology and 179 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: it shouldn't cost any more than all the other technology. 180 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not that that's about making money at 181 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: the end of the day. But I think the confusion 182 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: comes from the fact if a person like me tap 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: and go versus sticking it in, there's no difference to that. 184 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: Therefore why would I stick it in? And if I 185 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: can tap and go? And if you don't know that, 186 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: there's no charge with the stick it in and there 187 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: is a charge on the tap and go, Hence you 188 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: suddenly confused, don't you. 189 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: The coolest retailers go, hey, there's a surcharge. Often they'll say, 190 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: don't you know why reward the banks? There's a surcharge, 191 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: so why don't you stick it in? And and they 192 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: give you that, which I always appreciate because I never 193 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: want to do the searcharge because why would we want 194 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: to make the banks? 195 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: An't agree more? But am I right in saying Katie? 196 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: In the country there's not a lot of payWave about 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: the place. 198 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 199 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: When you go in? 200 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of fop like I went we 201 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 2: were we went to a chop and it's like there's 202 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: no there's there's no f poss So I actually had 203 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: to borrow cash off a mate to buy a couple 204 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: of shirts. I loved it. 205 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: There's no how are they supposed to do business? 206 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: They had they had a lot of they had a 207 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: lot of inventory, let's put it that way. 208 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. 209 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 2: No. 210 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: My point being in the country, a lot of people 211 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: don't pay the payWave charges in terms of the retailers, 212 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: so they say no f poss or no payWave. Haven't 213 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: you seen that when the shops in the country. 214 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about? 215 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: Really, that's what the country is? 216 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: The country New Zealand's like in the front what car 217 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: are you on? 218 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: Sorry? This is and this is how the magic works 219 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: between Mike and Cakes. 220 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: You're me pis. This is like. 221 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: He's probably listening to this now post a show last 222 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: night wondering what the hell is talking to as Man 223 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: as you're going see, I told you guys video guys 224 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: are clown my strategy. 225 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: We're brilliant. He's saying my strategy work brilliantly that I'm 226 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: giving getting almost as much a time two. 227 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: Days in a row. It's probably true. Well done. Nice, 228 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: nice to see you guys. 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