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Speaker 1: A few things came out of the news on first

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Speaker 1: annual meeting at the weekend. Winston wants Kiwi Savia contributions

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Speaker 1: at ten percent funded by tax cuts. No detail on that.

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Speaker 1: Also on the wish list, they want new migrants to

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Speaker 1: sign a value statement. Stuart Nash, former Labor cabinet minister,

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Speaker 1: was there. He was speaking. He's with us now. Good morning, Brian,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: Good morning?

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Speaker 1: Very good, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The text machines lit up when I mentioned you were

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. I just wants to get back

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Speaker 1: into parliament. He's desperate and we can't trust Winston not

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Speaker 1: to go with Labor again. Are you the bridge that's

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Speaker 1: going to connect the two.

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Speaker 2: Oh a god, I don't know about that, but you

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Speaker 2: know all the stuff that can't wait to get back

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Speaker 2: into parliament in these desperate people tend to forget that.

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Speaker 2: Well if they even knew in the first place that

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Speaker 2: if you're a cabinet minister and you only get into

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Speaker 2: Parliment to be a cabinet ministers, that's how you effect change.

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Speaker 2: It's eighty to one hundred hours a week continuous. That

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Speaker 2: includes that's seven days a week. It's not a job

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Speaker 2: for the faint hearted. You lose contact with your mates,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you don't see much time with your family.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I'm not trying a run. Don't want

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Speaker 2: to paint a sub story here, but I do want

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Speaker 2: to say, you know, I've got business I've started. I'm

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Speaker 2: really enjoying it. I'm loving the fact that I can

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Speaker 2: go and have a bear with my mates and not

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Speaker 2: have some clown with a cell phone take a photo

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Speaker 2: of the me and put it up on social media.

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Speaker 2: So the reason if I get back in department, the

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Speaker 2: reason I am is just un finished business. I think

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Speaker 2: the stuff that needs to be done to make this

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Speaker 2: country better than it is, and you know, and the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to do that exists.

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Speaker 1: Are you actually have you officially have you put a

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Speaker 1: submission in to be you know, is there an official

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Speaker 1: consideration actually happening.

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Speaker 2: No, as with every party, there's a nomination process. They

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Speaker 2: haven't open with the ZILM First yet, so you know

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Speaker 2: there's a process to go through. Obviously, by attending the

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Speaker 2: JILM First conference, I said a pretty clear message that

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Speaker 2: that's my politics live these days, and if I have

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Speaker 2: to go back in department, that's it would be what.

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Speaker 1: Is your understanding of Winston ruling out working with labor,

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Speaker 1: is it just under Chippy?

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Speaker 2: Well, he my understands he's never actually ruled out working

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Speaker 2: with labor. He's ruled out working with Hipkins. And so

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Speaker 2: you know it presents an instant a lemaphila. But if

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Speaker 2: they end up with say thirty six percent and zero,

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Speaker 2: Thirsty end up with sixteen. But you know that's obviously

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Speaker 2: a discussion way above my pay grade. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: not even on.

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Speaker 1: But it's such an important question, isn't it. Because the

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Speaker 1: right felt they were completely dicked over by Winston Peters

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Speaker 1: when he went with you cinda rejoin.

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Speaker 2: Well again, that's that's a question you'll have to put

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Speaker 2: to Winston. The bottom line is that there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of water to going to the bridge. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of people on the left or no,

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Speaker 2: not the left or the center, which is where my

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Speaker 2: politics sort of stands. That they look at the Party

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Speaker 2: marriage they're just a protest movement, they really are. You

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Speaker 2: look at the Greens and what Chloe wants to do,

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Speaker 2: you know, hip hip consess to come out and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, show some balls and say, okay, am I

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Speaker 2: going to rule out working putting a capital gains text,

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Speaker 2: and am I going to rule out putting a wealth text?

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Speaker 2: And Chloe wants to increase the tax rate for corporates

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Speaker 2: at a point in time when our economy needs priming,

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Speaker 2: not not stifling. There's a whole lot of questions that

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Speaker 2: hip consister, aren't the question for voters before anyone would

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Speaker 2: I think even consider the left. But again that's a

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Speaker 2: decision for Winston. There's a lot of water to going

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Speaker 2: to the bridge at that point.

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Speaker 1: On Stuart, appreciate your time. Stuart Nash, former Labour Cabinet minister,

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Speaker 1: potential future New Zealand First ministered.

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