1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Idgather do to see it? 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to away in nine two nine two is the 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: text number. Standard text fees apply now on domestic issues. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: It looks like you're going to get fewer mail deliveries. 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: There is a proposal to cut mail deliveries in towns 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: and cities from three times a week at the moment 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: to two times a week, and then in rural areas 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: from five to three times a week, and also to 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: cut the minimum number of post shops from eight hundred 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and eighty right down to five hundred. Now MB's in 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: charge of this, and the guy in charge of post 12 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: ad MB is James Hartley. Hey, James, hi, Yever, this 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: is out for consultation. But I mean this is headed 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: in only one direction, isn't it. This is going to happen, 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: isn't it. 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: We are looking forward to getting feedback from community on 17 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 1: how they use their postal service. But the reality here 18 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: is that we know that Kiwi's ascending a lot fewer 19 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: letters than they used to. In two thousand and two, 20 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: for example, one billion letters went through the postal system. 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: It's now down to about one hundred and eighty million, 22 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: so that's a huge decline over that period. And it's 23 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: continuing to decline, so we think it's the right time 24 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: to seek some public feedback on it's the best way 25 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: to maintain a Maile service whilst ensuring that Enzi Posts 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: remains financially sustainable as well. 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Do we actually need a mail service. 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: And totally. The feedback we have is that some communities 29 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: still very much do rely on the male service. I 30 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,199 Speaker 1: think particularly those in rural areas, maybe the older as well. 31 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: We are seeing numbers declining. In urban areas, for example, 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the average post box gets about two letters per week, 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and rural areas it's three leaders per week. And there's declining, 34 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: but it is still important for some people, and that's 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: why we're seeking feedback on how are people using the 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: mail service, what do they want from their male service? 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: Because I mean, if there are how many okay, how 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: many people do you reckon there are in the country 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: who say to you, yeah, yeah, we actually really need this, 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: we are in the elderly community or whatever, and we 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: have to have the mail delivered. What proportion of the 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: country do you reckon? 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: That is? It's hard to judge, and that's that's kind 44 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: of exactly why we are seeking feedback from the community. 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: Do you reckon though, James, Because I reckon, I reckon. 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: You're a bit of an expert, So what do you reckon? 47 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: What do you how big do you think it is? 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: It's a said you know, most letterboxes will be receiving 49 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: mail each week. We know that about ninety nine percent 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: of the mail that goes through the system is from 51 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: either the businesses, organizations, or the government, So only about 52 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: one percent of letters are sent by by individual So 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: that's pretty small, and it's obviously dropping has dropped since 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: since the advent of email. We're au to sake that feedback. 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Who is still using the letters of the mail system? 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: What do they want from the mail system? 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: Why don't you guys just go hard and pull the pin, 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: like make the bold call, pull the pin and force 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: anyone who still says sends letters to use the career service. 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: So there are still one hundred and eighty million letters 61 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: going through the system at the moment. 62 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: Yip, But James, how much of that is crap? I mean, like, honestly, genuinely, 63 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: most of the mail that I get is like estate 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: agents who still have me on their database send sending 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: me letters that I don't want. 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: I guess again, with the six sequent feedback. What we 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: are doing is negotiating the government's deed within their posts, 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: which sits out probably for a three to five year 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: period that I'm trying to give you an. 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Out here, James. I'm trying to say, like, you know, 71 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: let's do this, Let's take the hard decision, let's make 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: the people use the career and shut this nonsense down. 73 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I reckon? I'm keen to hear from the public about 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: what their expectations are, and especially those in rural communities 76 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: and the elderly as well. How are people still using 77 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: as a male system? Maybe maybe the few years to 78 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: come might be a broader conversation around around mail. 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: But mate, it's not far away, though, is it, James? 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: Like I reckon, like one hundred percent of my life 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: done in your life? Do I reckon in the next 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: ten years, We're going to shut this down? Don't you reckon? 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: Hard to say. If it's ten years, what do you reckon? Then? 84 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't know. That's why we 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: are we are seeking this feedback from the public. How 86 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: are people using the male system? The book? This is 87 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: not a uniquely new Zealand issue and we've seen postal 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: systems around the world grappling with this issue. So you 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: know that in Australia, for example, Debus moved to every 90 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: other business day for their deliveries as well, so it's 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: something that everyone is grappling with. The people are still 92 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: sending mail at the moment. 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Listen, explain to me why is it that rural areas 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: get more deliveries in towns and cities. 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: As I said, Actually the stats are that the rural 96 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: areas do do get more least per week on average 97 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: than the urban and then the urban counterparts. So it 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: does appear that rural users are using the mail service 99 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: but more. Again, the kingdes to dig into that a 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: bit more. What what are yours expectations for the mail service? 101 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Is there a differential an expectation between rural and urban areas? 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting, James, listen, thank you very much, really 103 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: appreciate it. That's James Hartley, MB's general manager of Communications 104 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: and Infrastructure. For more from Heather Duplessy Alan Drive listen 105 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 106 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.