1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Hobby shop. This is a story, and there's been a 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: couple of these cases in the last few days, so 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to highlight one of them with you this afternoon. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: This is particularly egregious. A hobby shop worker recovering in 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: hospital today after a violent run in with some suspected 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: teenage shoplifters. Three teens accused of taking some Pokemon cards. Yes, 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: that's all they wanted. This is a New Market yesterday evening. Now, 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: worker in the shop gives chase. One of them turns around, 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: allegedly turns round stabs him with a pocket knife. Thomas 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: James saw the whole thing happen. He's with me now. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Thomas Ryan, how are you very well? Thank you? 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: So tell us what you saw. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: Right. So, I'm grabbing some late lunch in New Market 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon and observerbley I thought was a scuttle between 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: two young guys, so went over and attempted to break 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: it up. One of the gentlemen told me that he 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: worked at a store and the guy was a shoplifter, 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: So I told him he's going to have to wait there. 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: At that point, the shop keeper pulled a shirt up 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: and realized that he'd been stabbed, and I saw the 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: alleged defender with a knife in his hands, so I 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: took him to the ground pretty quickly and held him 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: there for the police to arrive. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: So you took him to the ground, like what tackled 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: him even though they had a pocket knife? 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: No? No, I was holding him with two hands and 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: I kind of just took him to the ground with 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: both my hands. 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: Right, And what was everyone else doing when all this 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: was going down? 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't playing too much at teaching to everyone else, obviously, 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: once I saw a knife from this guy's hands. But 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: there are a few people standing around watching, And once 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: I'd taken him to the ground, I asked someone that 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: was watching to call the police because I couldn't get 36 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: to my phone myself. 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: Were you surprised, Like, what was your reaction? Were you surprised? 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: Were you shocked? 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: I was, to be honest, when that situation occurred, I 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: kind of just it was interstinct that I took the 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: guy to the ground. But it's almost sadly not surprising 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: to see that he had a knife on him. And 43 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: the reason that he had gone to stab this or 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: had stabbed the person is because he was in a 45 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 2: fistfight with him and couldn't get away. So his response 46 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: to being caught for stealing coop boxes from a store 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: and not being able to escape was to pull a 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: knife and stab him. But obviously he made a decision 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: when he left the house that morning or wherever he left, 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: to carry a knife on him. And you only carry 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: a knife if you're prepared to use. 52 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: It, exactly. You're a private investigator, which is and I 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: suppose it was a good thing. You were kind of 54 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: right place, right time. Did Do you think that we 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: have a bit of a problem here? I mean when 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: I read the news and you see what happens at 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: the bus stops, you see what happens at the train stations, 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: and I know they say crimes coming down, blah blah blah, 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: but we have a problem with young people who are 60 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: increasingly violent. Do you agree? 61 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: Well, my position of the problem invest get a red 62 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: biased because not myself personally, but a lot of my 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: team do deal with defense work, and we do see 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: a lot of it, this lower level type of crime, 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: not usually involving knives obviously, like shoplifting, I do see 66 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: quite often when I'm out and about Newmarket in particular 67 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: has been quite bad because all the shops are closed down. 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: But it doesn't seem to be getting any better at 69 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: all in my opinion. 70 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: And what about the I understand the store that sold 71 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: the Pokemon cards, the hobby store. Hobby lords have reached. 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Out to you, have they They have, Yes, So a 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: post was got up on Facebook by the owner of 74 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: the store and I was tagged in it, and they've 75 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: reached out and expressed their gratitude for my assistance. But 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: it's just something that I would do if I was 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: walking down the street and I saw it. 78 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Really Yeah, Hey, Thomas, really appreciate your time and thank 79 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: you on behalf of the public. And I mean, I 80 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: can't speak on behalf of this person, but I'm sure 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: they'll be thanking you as well for getting involved. 82 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely, Yeah, definitely. The I've got to give 83 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: it to the guy, the shopkeeper, he was giving him 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: a good run for his money. But when someone brings 85 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: a knife out, that really changes things, doesn't It certainly does. 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: That's Thomas James, who was there are Secure Collections and 87 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: Investigations who happened to be there and witnessed the whole 88 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: thing going down in New Market yesterday afternoon. 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