WEBVTT - Mahé Drysdale discusses his plans for fixing Tauranga

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<v Speaker 1>Kyoda and welcome to On the Tiles, the Herald's politics podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Georgina Campbell and this is a local edition episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last few weeks, Todonga residents have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to vote in their first local election since the city

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<v Speaker 1>council was replaced with commissioners at the end of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Preliminary results are in and in a landslide result, former

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic rower Mahe Drysdale is expected to become the city's

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<v Speaker 1>new mayor. For this bonus episode of On the Tiles

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<v Speaker 1>Local Edition, I caught up with him ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>final results to discuss what's next for the city. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>congratulations on your election result, Mahe. What did you do

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate on election night?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a little bit crazy, to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a phone call and so only the job begins,

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of media and then just caught up

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<v Speaker 2>with some family and friends and some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that you helped me get elected. So bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a celebration and then it was very much

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<v Speaker 2>into it next morning, straight straight onto the office and

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<v Speaker 2>figuring out what all this means.

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<v Speaker 1>So has it sunk in now? Would you say that

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to be the next mayor of Titongen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's sunk in. Yeah, the realization of

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<v Speaker 2>you know what have I got myself in for. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big job ahead, but I'm really excited about the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, met most of my fellow counselors and

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<v Speaker 2>pretty exciting. I think of everyone wanting the best for

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Totnga, and I'm very hopeful that we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to deliver on that promise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and obviously the city has been without an elected

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<v Speaker 1>council for some time now. I know that people in

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<v Speaker 1>this that we want to avoid a repeat of what

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<v Speaker 1>led to commissioners taking over the council. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to make sure that your counsel is different?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the first thing is the team approach. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I've been very focused on this week, building

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<v Speaker 2>that team, trying to figure out what between us all

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<v Speaker 2>sort of common themes and common visions and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what we're still working on. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we sort of come together, it's it's forming a

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<v Speaker 2>shared vision of where we want to get to and

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<v Speaker 2>then kind of making that plan of how we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get there. And you know, there's obviously everyone's got

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<v Speaker 2>different priorities as to what they want to achieve, but

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<v Speaker 2>some of them are in similar veins. So it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just just really formulating that together. And I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, from the discussions we've had so far,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone just wants the best for the city

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to see it succeed. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it's a really good starting place that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's prepared to leave their egos and agendas at the

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<v Speaker 2>door and you know, just deliver what's best for the city.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously it's early days, but can you give some

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<v Speaker 1>examples of where you can see some alignment around that

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<v Speaker 1>council table on particular issues or ways to address them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know, generally people see what what the

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<v Speaker 2>issues are and these are these have come from the campaign,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know everyone understands that that. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got massive infrastructure deficit that we've we've got to deliver.

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<v Speaker 2>There's traffic and transport issues. You know, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to solve housing because you know we're

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<v Speaker 2>short on houses and houses that are the most unaffordable

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<v Speaker 2>in this city. So I think those general themes have

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<v Speaker 2>come through from from everyone and it's just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>more the conversations we've got to got to have as

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<v Speaker 2>we see this as an issue, but how we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to because we just don't have enough money to do everything?

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<v Speaker 2>So how are we going to prioritize that? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>ways we can do this with you know, some some

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<v Speaker 2>changes that we can deliver more for that same budget.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I think there's some good opportunities there

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<v Speaker 2>just to get that value for money of that spend there.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have a personal mandate as the mayor with

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<v Speaker 1>what is shaping up to be a landslide victory, what

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<v Speaker 1>are your sort of top three policies that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to implement during your term.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for me, the biggest thing as on one

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<v Speaker 2>of ten boats around the table. So that's really clear that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't really bring any mandate to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to say we're gonna we're going to do this,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do that, We're going to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any or anything else, but you know, some of those

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<v Speaker 2>things I've spoken about, I really just want to get

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<v Speaker 2>out there and start delivering and making sure that we

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<v Speaker 2>get stuff done. Uh. You know, I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>it easier for people to deal with the counsel and

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<v Speaker 2>to get stuff done. But we're only going to do

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<v Speaker 2>that by being a team with ourselves, you know, being

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<v Speaker 2>a team with the other council staff, being a team

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<v Speaker 2>with the community. So we're delivering what they want and

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<v Speaker 2>getting alongside central government and uh and you know again

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<v Speaker 2>saying look we are the can do counsel and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to help you solve a lot of your issues

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<v Speaker 2>while we solve ours. Let's work together and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really deliver. So you know, that's very much. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>how I see this, and you know I guess from

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<v Speaker 2>me personally. You know what I'd love to say is

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<v Speaker 2>in four years time, people go man tearing. It is

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<v Speaker 2>an example of a council that's that's doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's really you know, where where i'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to get to. And I'm you know, quietly confident that

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<v Speaker 2>we can get there with the team we've got and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people's attitudes which is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you've said, money is tight. So in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, spending money wisely being careful with it,

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<v Speaker 1>are there any strategies at this point as to what

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<v Speaker 1>that might actually look like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think for me it's really key is that

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<v Speaker 2>value for money. So you know how I look at

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<v Speaker 2>things is, you know, there's a lot of things we want,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, does it make sense at that price?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that that it's delivering value for the residents

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<v Speaker 2>and and rate payers of the city, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's very much. I guess how I look at it

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<v Speaker 2>on the lens and you know, bike paths all over

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<v Speaker 2>the city at ten million may may make sense, but

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<v Speaker 2>at billion dollars they don't, you know. So so that's

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of you know, the lens that I bring

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<v Speaker 2>to the table, and you know, it's just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make those decisions, make good decisions. And then if something

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<v Speaker 2>that you think this is actually really important, but where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at the moment it's too expensive, how can

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, what sort of misers do we need

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<v Speaker 2>to make to deliver that? With you maybe ninety percent

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<v Speaker 2>of what we want, you know, taking out the nice

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<v Speaker 2>to haves, but still gives that functionality that we need.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess that's how I see it at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, you know, it's it's about sitting around that

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<v Speaker 2>table and together delivering with the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you've had a chance to look

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<v Speaker 1>at the council books so to speak, but obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>big story for local councils this year has been their

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<v Speaker 1>dismal finances. Things are really tight, rates increases are high.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you nervous about seeing the full extent of totong

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<v Speaker 1>a city Council's box And if you have already seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you make of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've seen the long term plan, we've seen the

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<v Speaker 2>Prayer election report, so now I haven't seen the final numbers. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a problem we're facing right across the country. Both

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<v Speaker 2>central government local government costs have risen dramatically. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>things are just costing a lot to build and you know, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the local body system of relying on the

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<v Speaker 2>rate payers is not a is not a sustainable one.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know that's where we've got to get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit innovative. You know, rates are going to rise,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a fact, and you know that's happening right

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<v Speaker 2>across the country. But you know, our job is to try,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, you know, get that value for money so

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<v Speaker 2>that they're not out of control, but we're very aware

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<v Speaker 2>of what people are facing and it's tough out there

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<v Speaker 2>across the board. So as a council we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, i guess, lead by example and tighten our

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<v Speaker 2>belts and you know, show that we can start delivering

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<v Speaker 2>some better value for money.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that cropped up on the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign trail was that you do not live in total

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<v Speaker 1>on a city. Will you be moving there now that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be the mayor and if so, when

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<v Speaker 1>can we expect that to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So basically, our kids are at school till the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the year and once they finished then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>look to move over here. And you know, there's another

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<v Speaker 2>whole more more from my mott wife's perspective, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just just finding new schools and houses and and sort

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<v Speaker 2>of making ourselves at home is the next challenge on

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<v Speaker 2>the horizon. And as we know, if the most expensive

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<v Speaker 2>houses are in New Zealand's that's not it's not an

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<v Speaker 2>easy challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Can the counsel do anything about the fact that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>housing in total is so expensive. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>views on how the council can help with that issue?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm I'm I guess, you know, from a financial background,

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<v Speaker 2>so I look at it from an economic lens that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a supply and demand thing. So you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>can we do as council, Well, we can help from

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<v Speaker 2>the supply side of things and make it easier for

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<v Speaker 2>people to deliver houses, because if we deliver more houses generally,

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<v Speaker 2>then you increase the supply and prices come down. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's also I think the government you have

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<v Speaker 2>a big role to play, and they're doing their part

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<v Speaker 2>with you know, trying to make the RMA a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit easier to navigate, you know, bringing in building materials

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<v Speaker 2>from other countries so we sort of get rid of

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<v Speaker 2>that monopoly on materials in this country, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>little things like that, just just cutting some of the

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<v Speaker 2>red tape and delivering infrastructure projects. I've heard you know,

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<v Speaker 2>traffic management can be up to forty percent of that

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<v Speaker 2>cost for delivering that, so you know it's sort of

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<v Speaker 2>you know around those edges, can is there places we

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<v Speaker 2>can save a bit of money and and make things

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<v Speaker 2>a bit easier for people, So so we can deliver

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we're going to have to probably have

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<v Speaker 2>some density here as well, because you know, we asked

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<v Speaker 2>done to run out of land.

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<v Speaker 1>And just on the makeup of your counsel, only one

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<v Speaker 1>woman has been voted onto total in a city council.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you disappointed with that? And why do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it is a bit disappointing, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, there was some some fantastic female candidates

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<v Speaker 2>out there, and you know, I guess that's just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of the intricacies of voting. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thankfully Jen who is is the counselor, that's a female.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a very capable and you know, is a is

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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic candidate. So she'll certainly be representing the female

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<v Speaker 2>side very very adequately throughout her term.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, you've got four years as mayor before the

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<v Speaker 1>next local body election. It's something some councils and even

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<v Speaker 1>central government could only dream of, that four year term.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think having that extra year will help

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<v Speaker 1>and what do you hope total it will look like

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I think it's fantastic, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of the issues that local bodies face

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<v Speaker 2>is that under investment, because you know, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the ratepayer happy for three years so that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get voted in again, and sometimes that means you

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<v Speaker 2>don't make the big calls that need to be done.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think we've got to take a longer term

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<v Speaker 2>view and you know, obviously educate people a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>better as to what we're doing and why, so that

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<v Speaker 2>they understand some of those big decisions. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what do I want to see to longa look like

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<v Speaker 2>in four years? Well, for me, success is one. We've

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<v Speaker 2>done a great job around the council table. We worked

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<v Speaker 2>at this team and started to deliver for the residents.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, secondly, I think when we look at

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<v Speaker 2>the city, we say, you know, this city is isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a better place And it's a better city than you

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<v Speaker 2>know when we started today. And I'm very excited about

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on here because there's a lot a lot happening.

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<v Speaker 2>The CBDs being revitalized and that's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>real heart of our city. And hopefully, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>city is going to be fantastic in the future. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll have a little bit of a hand

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<v Speaker 2>in the next four years, but you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take going to take probably another ten to

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen at least until we can can see you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the city in being the best city in New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us, and congratulations again on

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<v Speaker 1>your result.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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