1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Barry sober seeing your political correspondence with US. High Barry. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Good afternoon. 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: So the big seven out of ten announcement is the ALLERNG. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Well that's what we were told by Chris Luxm this 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 2: morning and it was going to be a seven out 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: of ten. But look, I suppose if we have to 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: have insurance against spikes and prices of electricity during a 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: dry winter, which we saw in twenty twenty four, electricity 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: went through the roof. And what they're saying is that 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: this LNG facility and they talked about bringing LNG into 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: the country at that time, you'll remember, but they didn't 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: have any facility to be able to store it and 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: this will provide that in Taranaki, so that's sort of 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: the home of energy now. But it'll be paid for 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: it so north of a billion dollars. We're told they 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: couldn't put a precise price on it because the final announcement, 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: so it's a bit of an announcement of an announcement. 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: The final announcement will be in around June this year. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: I say it could be up and running by next 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: year or the year after. So that those are the 21 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: assurances that we've got from the government. But Kiwi households 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: are being told by the Minister of Energy Simon Watts 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: that what they're going to do is they're going to 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: have to pay a levy on their electricity bill, even 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: though they will be he says, fifty dollars a year 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: better off as a result. 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: The levy for not for building this thing, for building 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Oh my. 29 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: Gosh, no, we've got well, they can't say that because 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: they haven't got the detail of that yet because they've 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: still got six names that they're dealing with in terms 32 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: of companies that will front up and build this thing. 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: Here's the Energy Minister on it. 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: Every day Kiwi households and businesses pay a premium because 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: the market fares winter power shortages. The reality of the 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: commercial negotiation will dictate exact operational costs for this facility, 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: and then the levee's purpose we'll be able to cover 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: that cost. So we'll work through that once we conclude 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: commercial negotiations. But to your point, the levee will cover 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: the costs to operate this facility that in effect operates 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 3: as an insurance policy. 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: So that's that's the explanation. Though there were asked quite 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: a few questions about missus luxon and what's about this levee? 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: Isn't it a tax of some sort? But of course 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: they deny that, and they say the net benefit to 46 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: households as a result of it, as I said earlier, 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: will be fifty dollars a year. 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Fifty dollars a year. Yeah, one dollar a week, one 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: dollar a week. 50 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: But it's for an insurance policy. 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Here though, what is that? Fourteen cents a day? Okay, 52 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: we'll deal with the smety oh my gosh. Wow. Anyway, 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Simon Watts is going to be with us half the five, 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: so we'll all good. We'll celebrate that one dollar a 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: week with them. The poll, what do you make of 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the poll? 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: Well, look, it's saying the same thing, isn't it that 58 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: Poles have been saying now for some time? Not a 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: hung parliament. But I've certainly it's going to be a 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: close election, and I think there's a general expectation that 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: it will be close. But I still have an expectation 62 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: that hopefully this economy and the mood of the nation 63 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: will be turned around by mid year, which gives the 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: political debate a whole new momentum and the lead up 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: to the election. But this Pole. This is the TAXPA 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 2: Union Union, yeah, Curier Pole. The basically Labors taking support 67 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: off National and Nationals coming down a bit. But the 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: thing is all these figures are well within the statistical 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: margin of era of three percent, so you know, the 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: relatively meaningless at this time. 71 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: And that jump and support for the Greens look suspicious, 72 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: right they done nothing? 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the only reason it's Home Parliament is because 74 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: the New Zealand First support has dropped slightly in this poll. 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: So you know, I just wish the poster posters would 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: give us a break for maybe two months and then 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: we can look at everything again. And rather than to. 78 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Do you want no polls in election for two months? 79 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying. But you know we say this. 80 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: You may remember her that every election year that we're 81 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: poll acted, where by the time we get to election. 82 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: This is why Jim Bolder said, bugger the pollsters, because 83 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: you get it week after week after week and at 84 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: the moment they're sort of telling us the same story. 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: All right. I see that the judge who's alleged to 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: have yelled, he's lying at Winston Peter's at the Northern 87 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: Club while he was doing the speech, is having her 88 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: day in court at the moment. 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's before the Judicial Commission, which is a powerful 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: body that can recommend, interestingly, no more than that to 91 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: the Attorney General, who happens to be due to the Collins, 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: that she be removed from office. Now, the expectation, I'll 93 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: talk to somebody that was at the herring today and 94 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: the expectation is that she is now fighting for her 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: life because they had a judicial meeting, a meeting of 96 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: judges basically at the Northern Club, and she was with 97 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 2: her partner who's an ICU specialist. He gave a lip, 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: gave a little lip to Casey Costello, who was sitting 99 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: near the door the judge. Akins says that she never 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: knew that it was Winston. What she said was preaching 101 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: falsities to the crowd. 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Because Winston's not is quite it is not really you know, 103 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: he's the kind of person you could mistake for someone 104 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: else not well known. 105 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: She said, she didn't know. I think there's a bit 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 2: worse for where some of these people also partied as night. 107 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: But she said when she was looking back being escorted 108 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: past the room, she looked back and saw it was 109 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Winston and speaking, and she realized then that when he 110 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: talked about Tea Kanger being taught in law school as 111 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: opposed to the Westminster system, I think, you know, even 112 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: Winston would say that was probably going a stead too fast. 113 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: All right, Barry, thank you very much appreciated, by the way, 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Happy birthday. 115 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. 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