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Speaker 1: Well, we have a case of conflicting poles, don't we.

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Speaker 1: Those two poles over the last twenty four hours have

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Speaker 1: two completely different governments predicted. But if there is one thing,

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Speaker 1: and so you can be forgiven for feeling quite confused

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Speaker 1: right now. But if there's one thing that you absolutely

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Speaker 1: can take from these poles, one thing which they do

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Speaker 1: agree on, it's that the pay equity revamp has not

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Speaker 1: turned into the circuit breaker that the left clearly thought

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Speaker 1: it was going to be. The poles are almost for

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Speaker 1: all of the things they don't agree on, they are

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Speaker 1: almost identical in the proportion of people they reckon who

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Speaker 1: oppose the revamp. The One News poll had forty five

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Speaker 1: percent opposed. The R and Z pole had forty three

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Speaker 1: percent to post not big. I mean, sure, it's a

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Speaker 1: plurality and both poles. More people oppose it than support it,

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Speaker 1: But it's not big. I've seen poles where seventy percent,

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of people oppose something that's big. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody about this today. They pointed

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Speaker 1: me to the poles that were done after the twenty

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Speaker 1: twelve budget, when Hekkia Parata announced that the class sizes

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Speaker 1: would change about eighty percent of people told those poles

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Speaker 1: they hated it. That's the kind of number that forces

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Speaker 1: a U. That's why Heka did do a U turn.

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Speaker 1: Forty five forty three percent. That ain't anything. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely not a circuit breaker. It's not the make

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Speaker 1: people hate the government moment that Labor and the Greens

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Speaker 1: and the unions were hoping it was going to be.

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Speaker 1: Now why there is not a greater level of opposition

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because I thought this was a slam

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Speaker 1: dunk for the opposition to be able to run home on.

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Speaker 1: But maybe people didn't really understand it enough to care.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the government managed to claw back the narrative when

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Speaker 1: it started properly explaining what it was doing. Maybe Labor

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Speaker 1: just ballsed it up. Frankly, maybe Andrea Ants distracted everyone

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Speaker 1: by calling female ministers the sea bomb. Maybe people are

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Speaker 1: just ideologically entrenched nowadays. You know, they support things the

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Speaker 1: government does because they voted for the government. They won't

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Speaker 1: oppose things the government does because they've voted for the government,

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Speaker 1: and so on and so on. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: what is clear is that it is not the moment

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Speaker 1: it could have been, or that it was expected to

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Speaker 1: have been, and that actually the government should be relieved

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Speaker 1: it has not been badly damaged by this, certainly not

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Speaker 1: as badly as it could have been. For more from

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