1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,067 Speaker 1: from Newstalks. 3 00:00:11,747 --> 00:00:15,627 Speaker 2: B four twenty four in the morning in Paris. But 4 00:00:15,747 --> 00:00:19,427 Speaker 2: James McCarney is up and about taking our call. Good 5 00:00:19,467 --> 00:00:21,947 Speaker 2: the chat to your mate. Gee, I don't know where 6 00:00:21,987 --> 00:00:24,187 Speaker 2: to start. You've been all over the place at the Olympics, 7 00:00:24,227 --> 00:00:26,267 Speaker 2: but I get the I got a message from you 8 00:00:26,267 --> 00:00:29,467 Speaker 2: to say you spent time with shot put silver medallist 9 00:00:29,587 --> 00:00:31,667 Speaker 2: Maddie Wishy over there. 10 00:00:32,227 --> 00:00:35,107 Speaker 3: How was that? And I mean, she's an absolute diamond, 11 00:00:35,107 --> 00:00:35,507 Speaker 3: doesn't she. 12 00:00:36,627 --> 00:00:37,547 Speaker 4: Oh fantastic. 13 00:00:37,587 --> 00:00:40,427 Speaker 5: Your whole family are just awesome and it was lovely 14 00:00:40,467 --> 00:00:43,747 Speaker 5: to see them at New Zealand House there and Maddie 15 00:00:43,787 --> 00:00:45,707 Speaker 5: has really sort of done it her way. 16 00:00:45,747 --> 00:00:45,947 Speaker 4: You know. 17 00:00:46,027 --> 00:00:49,707 Speaker 5: She didn't even realize that Dame Vale was a legend 18 00:00:49,707 --> 00:00:53,387 Speaker 5: because she didn't really watch athletics that much on TV. 19 00:00:53,907 --> 00:00:57,147 Speaker 5: So when she was starting to compete and she realized that, 20 00:00:57,307 --> 00:00:59,667 Speaker 5: oh wait a second, I'm up against the goat. And 21 00:01:00,667 --> 00:01:04,747 Speaker 5: of course had a great relationship with Val and there's 22 00:01:05,267 --> 00:01:10,507 Speaker 5: nowhere there as big. But she through nineteen eighty six 23 00:01:10,667 --> 00:01:13,467 Speaker 5: ninety meter is eighty six on a wet night, and 24 00:01:13,507 --> 00:01:15,387 Speaker 5: she was saying that, you know, because she grew up 25 00:01:15,387 --> 00:01:18,027 Speaker 5: in Auckland and trained out at why Tarkety there in 26 00:01:18,067 --> 00:01:21,467 Speaker 5: West Auckland. She knew all about throwing in the wet, 27 00:01:21,747 --> 00:01:27,947 Speaker 5: so she was well prepared and just an absolute delight. 28 00:01:28,227 --> 00:01:30,667 Speaker 5: So happy for her and I think that she will 29 00:01:30,707 --> 00:01:35,667 Speaker 5: inspire a new generation because I mean, with all due respect, 30 00:01:35,787 --> 00:01:38,747 Speaker 5: Vale was six ft five is six ft five. But 31 00:01:38,787 --> 00:01:40,307 Speaker 5: Maddie Wishy is one of those. 32 00:01:40,387 --> 00:01:41,187 Speaker 4: You know, she's. 33 00:01:42,507 --> 00:01:46,467 Speaker 5: Well under six foot and just really powerful and good 34 00:01:46,467 --> 00:01:49,827 Speaker 5: at what she does and is quite relatable. 35 00:01:51,267 --> 00:01:54,347 Speaker 2: It's incredible that the feedback we're getting a lot on 36 00:01:54,427 --> 00:01:56,787 Speaker 2: the show today and yesterday and across the Olympics is 37 00:01:56,867 --> 00:02:00,347 Speaker 2: just how humble our sporting champions are and just how 38 00:02:00,387 --> 00:02:03,387 Speaker 2: proud we all are because they are that way. I 39 00:02:03,427 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 2: think it's very key we, isn't it. But I think 40 00:02:05,387 --> 00:02:07,667 Speaker 2: if Maddie Wishy are I know, you know you've spoken 41 00:02:07,707 --> 00:02:10,307 Speaker 2: to many of the others as well. Daniel Hillier, Van 42 00:02:10,387 --> 00:02:14,107 Speaker 2: Butcher was so humble, you know, Hamish cur Lydia, Lisa Carrington, 43 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:16,907 Speaker 2: the list goes on. It's just isn't it great to 44 00:02:16,947 --> 00:02:18,307 Speaker 2: be a KeyWe at a time like this? 45 00:02:19,707 --> 00:02:22,347 Speaker 5: Yeah, I find that our athletes are definitely the most 46 00:02:22,347 --> 00:02:27,827 Speaker 5: approachable and even if they've they've been disappointed by their results, 47 00:02:27,867 --> 00:02:31,307 Speaker 5: they're still willing to give their time in chat and 48 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:34,667 Speaker 5: they understand how important it is to you know, put 49 00:02:34,667 --> 00:02:37,307 Speaker 5: this sport on the map, to be a good ambassador 50 00:02:37,987 --> 00:02:41,267 Speaker 5: and to and to reach the people of New Zealand. 51 00:02:41,307 --> 00:02:44,427 Speaker 5: That's that a lot of the athletes really talk about 52 00:02:45,387 --> 00:02:48,587 Speaker 5: the next generation and hoping that they can inspire them 53 00:02:48,587 --> 00:02:51,387 Speaker 5: and hope. Even David Letzi tonight, I was at the 54 00:02:52,427 --> 00:02:55,667 Speaker 5: at the weightlifting and he came eighth and it was 55 00:02:56,347 --> 00:02:58,347 Speaker 5: you know, he's the eighth strongest man in the world. 56 00:02:58,427 --> 00:03:01,107 Speaker 5: He made me repeat that several times in the interview 57 00:03:02,987 --> 00:03:04,867 Speaker 5: because I mean, that's amazing, isn't it. 58 00:03:04,907 --> 00:03:05,867 Speaker 4: Really. Let's be honest. 59 00:03:05,907 --> 00:03:09,347 Speaker 5: He's up there with in the big leagues, and some 60 00:03:09,387 --> 00:03:13,147 Speaker 5: of these guys are absolute freak. So, you know, he 61 00:03:13,307 --> 00:03:15,747 Speaker 5: was making a point that he found a passion and just. 62 00:03:15,707 --> 00:03:16,427 Speaker 4: Really went for it. 63 00:03:16,427 --> 00:03:19,347 Speaker 5: And he hopes that that young kids will look at that, 64 00:03:19,467 --> 00:03:23,107 Speaker 5: look at him, and and young Pacifica kids will try 65 00:03:23,187 --> 00:03:27,227 Speaker 5: something different from maybe rugby or whatever it is. And 66 00:03:27,627 --> 00:03:31,027 Speaker 5: he was talking about Koreas just finding a passion. You know, 67 00:03:31,067 --> 00:03:34,107 Speaker 5: it doesn't necessarily have to be sport but it can be. 68 00:03:34,267 --> 00:03:37,107 Speaker 5: And I love that message. And I thought that you know, 69 00:03:37,347 --> 00:03:38,947 Speaker 5: he's he really acquitted himself. 70 00:03:38,987 --> 00:03:42,667 Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, And Hamish Kerr said, you know that before 71 00:03:42,987 --> 00:03:44,947 Speaker 2: or when he was growing up doing high jump, there 72 00:03:44,947 --> 00:03:46,787 Speaker 2: was no one for him to look up to necessarily 73 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,107 Speaker 2: as that you know that that that person had been 74 00:03:49,107 --> 00:03:51,267 Speaker 2: there and done that, and now he becomes that for 75 00:03:51,347 --> 00:03:53,467 Speaker 2: somebody else. You know, there'll be there'll be kids around 76 00:03:53,467 --> 00:03:55,827 Speaker 2: the country this morning, you know, setting up sort of 77 00:03:55,827 --> 00:03:58,347 Speaker 2: bars or maybe bits of rope or ribbon in their 78 00:03:58,347 --> 00:04:02,187 Speaker 2: backyard and doing the Fosbury flop or whatever it might 79 00:04:02,267 --> 00:04:05,627 Speaker 2: be to try and emulate him. Now, speaking of meeting people, 80 00:04:06,147 --> 00:04:10,227 Speaker 2: Tony Hawk, you met Tony Hawk, the skateboard goat. 81 00:04:11,587 --> 00:04:12,027 Speaker 4: I did. 82 00:04:12,107 --> 00:04:17,307 Speaker 5: The goat was wandering around after the men's Park skateboard final, 83 00:04:17,427 --> 00:04:20,387 Speaker 5: and so was Snoop Dog as well, by the way, 84 00:04:20,387 --> 00:04:22,747 Speaker 5: but he had a lot of security around him. But 85 00:04:23,027 --> 00:04:25,347 Speaker 5: Tony wandered past the mix on, which is just a 86 00:04:25,387 --> 00:04:27,947 Speaker 5: little sort of pig pen where all the media sort 87 00:04:27,987 --> 00:04:30,467 Speaker 5: of wait for athletes to come by, and I thought, 88 00:04:30,867 --> 00:04:32,867 Speaker 5: I'll just ask him to see if you'll have a word, 89 00:04:32,907 --> 00:04:35,867 Speaker 5: and he turned around. I said the words New Zealand 90 00:04:35,907 --> 00:04:38,387 Speaker 5: and I think that pretty much got him over and 91 00:04:39,347 --> 00:04:42,867 Speaker 5: he and obviously, you know, I locked eyes with him 92 00:04:43,347 --> 00:04:45,427 Speaker 5: and so that was something. 93 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:46,467 Speaker 4: But I. 94 00:04:47,947 --> 00:04:51,987 Speaker 5: Actually think that he really is, you know, probably the 95 00:04:51,987 --> 00:04:57,027 Speaker 5: most famous person I've interviewed, but not necessarily the most 96 00:04:58,187 --> 00:05:02,467 Speaker 5: famous from this Olympics, because I interviewed the Australian breakdowncer 97 00:05:02,467 --> 00:05:05,947 Speaker 5: who's gone viral, Reygun, who had a. 98 00:05:06,027 --> 00:05:08,067 Speaker 4: Very interesting routine, shall we say. 99 00:05:08,387 --> 00:05:11,787 Speaker 5: And and that was that's that's something that has ended 100 00:05:11,827 --> 00:05:14,987 Speaker 5: up going around the world. But also the New Zealanders 101 00:05:14,987 --> 00:05:21,507 Speaker 5: can't believe that she won the Oceania Chaps, did. 102 00:05:21,307 --> 00:05:23,227 Speaker 3: You interview her? Have you? Have you had a chet 103 00:05:23,307 --> 00:05:25,587 Speaker 3: to Reygun for your ultra famous? 104 00:05:25,627 --> 00:05:30,187 Speaker 5: Now she is super famous and for the for the 105 00:05:30,227 --> 00:05:32,907 Speaker 5: listeners out there if they haven't seen what she did. 106 00:05:33,027 --> 00:05:35,707 Speaker 5: She kind of arrived on the floor. It reminded me 107 00:05:36,227 --> 00:05:39,187 Speaker 5: of an episode of Kath and Kim. You know, look Amy, 108 00:05:39,307 --> 00:05:43,547 Speaker 5: look Amy, and and then she did something that resembled 109 00:05:43,547 --> 00:05:46,387 Speaker 5: a kangaroo. And there are a couple of times where 110 00:05:46,387 --> 00:05:48,147 Speaker 5: she looked like she was mopping the floor with her 111 00:05:48,147 --> 00:05:52,227 Speaker 5: head and it just was quite bizarre. 112 00:05:52,627 --> 00:05:54,267 Speaker 4: And you know, she was genuine. 113 00:05:54,347 --> 00:05:56,267 Speaker 5: She she was really proud to be there, she's a 114 00:05:56,307 --> 00:06:00,627 Speaker 5: thirty six year old university lecturer, although after watching her perform, 115 00:06:01,147 --> 00:06:05,587 Speaker 5: I wouldn't trust her to teach anything, so it just 116 00:06:05,947 --> 00:06:09,507 Speaker 5: didn't up And look, I hope that she's okay because 117 00:06:09,747 --> 00:06:11,267 Speaker 5: I think she's going to get a lot of attention. 118 00:06:11,387 --> 00:06:13,827 Speaker 5: You know what Australians are like, if you're not ripping 119 00:06:13,827 --> 00:06:16,507 Speaker 5: the green and gold the right way, they'll come down 120 00:06:16,547 --> 00:06:17,827 Speaker 5: on you like a ton of bricks. 121 00:06:18,267 --> 00:06:20,467 Speaker 2: I wonder that actually, because I've seen a lot of 122 00:06:21,267 --> 00:06:23,627 Speaker 2: a lot of you know, people mentioning this and as 123 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:26,427 Speaker 2: you would have seen this online, she has just exploded. 124 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:30,307 Speaker 2: She probably is as as prominent in the last weekends 125 00:06:30,387 --> 00:06:33,027 Speaker 2: as Tony Hawk. But I think people are some people 126 00:06:33,067 --> 00:06:35,667 Speaker 2: are like, this is absolutely ridiculous, what is going on? 127 00:06:35,787 --> 00:06:39,627 Speaker 2: She's she's become a laughing stock or made our country 128 00:06:39,747 --> 00:06:40,267 Speaker 2: laughing stock. 129 00:06:40,347 --> 00:06:42,147 Speaker 3: But I think there's another side of. 130 00:06:42,427 --> 00:06:45,467 Speaker 2: Some Australians that I've seen who actually now are making 131 00:06:45,467 --> 00:06:47,787 Speaker 2: her into a bit of a cult hero. So it'll 132 00:06:47,787 --> 00:06:49,747 Speaker 2: be interesting to see where it lands once she gets 133 00:06:49,747 --> 00:06:50,227 Speaker 2: back home. 134 00:06:51,587 --> 00:06:52,307 Speaker 4: Yeah, she is. 135 00:06:53,147 --> 00:06:58,747 Speaker 5: She's somewhere between in the Eagle, Eric the Eel and 136 00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:03,587 Speaker 5: that I Skates. Stephen Bradbury, who won a gold medal 137 00:07:03,587 --> 00:07:07,667 Speaker 5: when everyone fell over. Yes, yes, but I mean look, 138 00:07:07,707 --> 00:07:10,827 Speaker 5: I mean, Bradbury was a proper racer. I feel the 139 00:07:11,187 --> 00:07:16,587 Speaker 5: only issue with ray Gun Rachel Gunn is that she 140 00:07:18,387 --> 00:07:21,947 Speaker 5: is that she ended up looking kind of comical. Really, 141 00:07:22,027 --> 00:07:25,427 Speaker 5: that's the only problem was I was I was enjoying 142 00:07:25,427 --> 00:07:26,227 Speaker 5: it in the wrong way. 143 00:07:26,347 --> 00:07:28,667 Speaker 4: Really, that was something to behold. 144 00:07:29,747 --> 00:07:31,747 Speaker 5: There were a few memes out there saying this is 145 00:07:31,787 --> 00:07:36,547 Speaker 5: what happens after a six year old says watch me 146 00:07:37,307 --> 00:07:39,067 Speaker 5: and Mum watched this. 147 00:07:40,347 --> 00:07:42,387 Speaker 2: It's like when they put on when you have visitors 148 00:07:42,387 --> 00:07:46,627 Speaker 2: around and they put on shows. That's exactly Another one 149 00:07:46,627 --> 00:07:48,827 Speaker 2: I saw was here's a move I like to call 150 00:07:48,907 --> 00:07:50,867 Speaker 2: Tracy's had a few Vodkas. 151 00:07:51,867 --> 00:07:52,507 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. 152 00:07:52,627 --> 00:07:54,627 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just the gift that keeps on giving. 153 00:07:54,707 --> 00:07:57,387 Speaker 5: So yeah, we've all been chasing big names. I mean, 154 00:07:57,587 --> 00:08:02,307 Speaker 5: I spoke to Scottish Scheffler after he won the gold 155 00:08:02,347 --> 00:08:05,427 Speaker 5: medal of the men's golf and I thought, Okay, it's 156 00:08:05,427 --> 00:08:07,827 Speaker 5: not going to get much better than Scottie Scheffler. But hey, 157 00:08:08,587 --> 00:08:11,387 Speaker 5: a couple of days later, Tony Hawk and then Raygun. 158 00:08:12,267 --> 00:08:15,667 Speaker 2: That's the Holy Trinity of the Olympic Games. You've absolutely 159 00:08:15,707 --> 00:08:17,947 Speaker 2: nailed it and I have to say, and the discussion 160 00:08:17,987 --> 00:08:22,787 Speaker 2: back here is that only James mcconey gets those interviews. Look, 161 00:08:22,827 --> 00:08:24,587 Speaker 2: I know you won't like me saying this, but you 162 00:08:24,627 --> 00:08:29,627 Speaker 2: are the most disarming person I've ever met. And I'm 163 00:08:29,707 --> 00:08:32,867 Speaker 2: sure that when Tony Hawk and Scottie Scheffler and Raygun 164 00:08:32,867 --> 00:08:35,427 Speaker 2: locked eyes with you, they were brought under that spell 165 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:39,067 Speaker 2: that so many others have been and just felt compelled 166 00:08:39,107 --> 00:08:41,107 Speaker 2: to open their hearts to you. I just think you 167 00:08:41,667 --> 00:08:47,067 Speaker 2: have an incredible ability to disarm people and to make 168 00:08:47,067 --> 00:08:49,547 Speaker 2: them want a chat to you. And look, it's something 169 00:08:49,587 --> 00:08:51,427 Speaker 2: that I've admired for a long long time. 170 00:08:52,707 --> 00:08:54,307 Speaker 4: Thanks man, I really appreciate that. 171 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:56,467 Speaker 5: You know what, I still get people coming up on 172 00:08:56,467 --> 00:08:58,907 Speaker 5: the street and asking for directions. I am that guy, 173 00:08:59,147 --> 00:09:04,507 Speaker 5: Yes where people yeah, And I don't even speak for 174 00:09:04,507 --> 00:09:06,747 Speaker 5: each or know where the hell I'm going, So, you know, 175 00:09:07,067 --> 00:09:11,667 Speaker 5: I think that there is something there's something in that maybe. 176 00:09:11,707 --> 00:09:14,707 Speaker 5: But the one thing I do think with guys like 177 00:09:14,747 --> 00:09:18,067 Speaker 5: Scottie Scheffler and I think You've got this exactly exact 178 00:09:18,107 --> 00:09:20,587 Speaker 5: same ability as well, is that as soon as you 179 00:09:20,787 --> 00:09:22,787 Speaker 5: talk to them, you realize whether you can get on 180 00:09:22,827 --> 00:09:25,027 Speaker 5: the same page with those people. You know, whether they've 181 00:09:25,027 --> 00:09:28,667 Speaker 5: got a little bit of enjoyment and fun in their 182 00:09:28,707 --> 00:09:31,787 Speaker 5: in their life, you know. And I think I've got 183 00:09:31,827 --> 00:09:33,827 Speaker 5: that even just from my family. You know, my mom, 184 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:38,267 Speaker 5: my grandmother, and you know, my sisters. We're all very 185 00:09:38,267 --> 00:09:41,467 Speaker 5: similar like that. We like to find out people's life 186 00:09:41,547 --> 00:09:43,827 Speaker 5: story in two minutes and you. 187 00:09:43,787 --> 00:09:47,947 Speaker 4: Know, and counting. Really it's just a it's a family curse. 188 00:09:48,267 --> 00:09:51,667 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it is also a magic power, a magic 189 00:09:51,707 --> 00:09:54,467 Speaker 2: power indeed, James, great to chat to you. Presume you'll 190 00:09:54,467 --> 00:09:56,107 Speaker 2: be coming home at some stage. Can we look forward 191 00:09:56,107 --> 00:09:58,867 Speaker 2: to your company next Sunday from somewhere maybe back here, 192 00:09:59,107 --> 00:10:00,627 Speaker 2: over there or somewhere in between. 193 00:10:01,747 --> 00:10:04,187 Speaker 5: Well, pony, I'm going to drive you crazy because I 194 00:10:04,227 --> 00:10:08,107 Speaker 5: think I'll be at the opening day of the Iglish 195 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:10,707 Speaker 5: Premier League Bornemouth versus at Nottingham Forest. 196 00:10:10,787 --> 00:10:13,987 Speaker 4: So you can oh get excited about that. 197 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:17,387 Speaker 2: Mate, Safe travels there, can't wait to catch up next Sunday, 198 00:10:17,467 --> 00:10:18,147 Speaker 2: get some sleep. 199 00:10:18,267 --> 00:10:19,427 Speaker 3: Always great to chat. 200 00:10:20,427 --> 00:10:23,467 Speaker 5: Cheers mate, really appreciate it and can't wait to get back. 201 00:10:23,587 --> 00:10:25,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, can't wait to see when you get back, mate. 202 00:10:25,267 --> 00:10:28,427 Speaker 2: But off to Bournemouth with you to watch Bournemouth against 203 00:10:28,427 --> 00:10:31,107 Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest. Unfortunately, Alex Paulson's not going to be there. 204 00:10:31,147 --> 00:10:33,147 Speaker 2: We didn't even get the chance to chat about Alex 205 00:10:33,187 --> 00:10:35,387 Speaker 2: Paulson over the weekend. There was so much else going on. 206 00:10:36,427 --> 00:10:40,267 Speaker 2: Alex Paulson to Auckland FC. Maybe we can address that 207 00:10:40,347 --> 00:10:41,427 Speaker 2: once the games are over. 208 00:10:42,227 --> 00:10:45,387 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 209 00:10:45,507 --> 00:10:48,827 Speaker 1: to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow 210 00:10:48,867 --> 00:10:50,467 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.