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Speaker 1: Dressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duper c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else news doorgs B.

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Speaker 2: Hartter Noon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today, more

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Speaker 2: questions on the India FDA, this time about private TIEWII

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Speaker 2: investment into India. Chris Hapkins, Labour Party leader on that

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Speaker 2: after five Freightways on their fantastic results, and former Warrior

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Speaker 2: Kevin Campion on the State of Origin coming to eden Park.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cy Allen, Well.

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Speaker 2: Given how much of a teas we've had about the

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Speaker 2: eden Park news today, it's completely understandable if the excitement

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Speaker 2: levels aren't where they should be. But let's be clear,

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Speaker 2: this is really big news on two fronts. The first one,

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Speaker 2: obviously is the State of Origin game. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is the first time since nineteen ninety seven that Ossie

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Speaker 2: It's the first time ever that it's coming to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: We are a very big rugby league nation and that game,

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Speaker 2: even if it kecks off at some ridiculous time like

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Speaker 2: nine thirty or ten in the evening, will sell out

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Speaker 2: pretty quickly, which means I don't know how much international

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Speaker 2: money it's actually going to bring in, because surely we're

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Speaker 2: going to snap out the tickets ourselves before any Aussies

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Speaker 2: can get it. But it'll be an event, and if

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Speaker 2: that gets New Zealand a step closer to being considered

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Speaker 2: bigger when we get very fuzzy about the State of Origin.

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Speaker 2: But I think the rules around eden Park are bigger

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Speaker 2: because it's bigger than one single event. It's longer term.

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Speaker 2: It was always stupid that eden Park couldn't host a

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Speaker 2: sporting event on a Sunday, and that sports events on

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Speaker 2: a weekday had to be wrapped up by nine point thirty,

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Speaker 2: which would have absolutely put a big no on the

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Speaker 2: State of Origin game, which is played on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: It was stupid that eden Park could only ever have

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Speaker 2: no more than that. It's now twelve big concerts twenty

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Speaker 2: medium sized concerts. Any day is okay up to eight hours.

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Speaker 2: Don't always need to keep consent to say yes. I

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Speaker 2: understand that there are residents to be considered, and I'm

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Speaker 2: ex extremely grateful to so many of them that they

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Speaker 2: are so generous. But this was necessary if we don't

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Speaker 2: want Eden Park to be empty most days of the

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Speaker 2: week just waiting for a ratepayer bailout like the days

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Speaker 2: of old. If we wanted to actually earn its way,

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Speaker 2: then this is the way to do it. And this

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Speaker 1: Heather du per c Ellen, nineteen ninety As.

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Speaker 2: A text number standard text fees applying as I say,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Campion will be with us after half past five.

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Speaker 2: Now christ Church has so many airbnbs that the market

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Speaker 2: is actually struggling to keep up. It sounds like it's

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Speaker 2: absolutely swamped by them. According to the analytics business air DNA,

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Speaker 2: the average per night yield for airbnbs in christ Church

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Speaker 2: fell slightly last year, and that's probably because the number

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Speaker 2: of available Airbnb properties in the city went up by

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Speaker 2: nineteen percent in twenty twenty four, demand only went up

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Speaker 2: by five percent. Mike Blackburn is a property market analyst

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Speaker 2: and with US high Mike Hiever, basically a case of

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Speaker 2: supply and demand, right, too many Airbnbs there.

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Speaker 3: Look absolutely, christ Church is currently build up almost seventy

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Speaker 3: just goes back to what you were saying about Eden Parker,

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Speaker 3: going to drive. But we've been hearing this story from

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Speaker 3: developers for several years and the number of units that

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Speaker 2: What are you saying people are building future Airbnbs around

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Speaker 3: Are they absolutely That's exactly how they're being marketed.

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Speaker 2: And Mike, are they actually building houses with a view

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Speaker 4: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: There are several developers in christ and of course that

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Speaker 3: the thing is Heather, is that in addition to tracking

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Speaker 3: these these are units that are part of twenty or

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Speaker 2: I see. Okay, now that doesn't seem to me the

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Speaker 2: smartest move because it doesn't leave you many options, does it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who wants that? I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: Well again, if you're well, there's there's there's two parts

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Speaker 3: to the answer to that. Firstly, following the earthquakes, christ

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Speaker 3: significantly faster than the night stay accommodation. And unfortunately, Heather,

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Speaker 3: I think there's going to be some tears.

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Speaker 2: Now, tell me why you're not feeling as optimistic as

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Speaker 2: the developers are about the pull of Takaha the stadium.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, it's simply been the fact that we have

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Speaker 3: and demand. The more units that there are given a

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Speaker 2: Now, now listen, Mike, it's good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time. That's Mike Blackburn, property market

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Speaker 2: analyst Heather congratulate by. Can I just say, remember how

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Speaker 2: I put a ban on myself with the airbnbs. I've

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Speaker 2: but I have booked an Airbnb for March. So I'll

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Speaker 2: a testing of the water again. Well, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: have it. I'm having a forced separation from Airbnb. We're

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Speaker 2: see if it works for us. Here the congratulations to

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Speaker 2: the Blues for an amazing family event and game at

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Speaker 2: Eden Park on Saturday night. But you won't admit that. Well,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I was minding the children. But it's

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Speaker 2: a good time at eden Park. I go to eden

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Speaker 2: I just don't. Actually, I've been honest with you about this.

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Speaker 2: I don't watch the rugby. I just turn around and

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Speaker 2: a good time with them. Now I've got some good

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Speaker 2: news for you. I told you on Friday to watch

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Speaker 2: freight Freightways result which is coming out today because this

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Speaker 2: if freightways starts to pick up, it means people are

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Speaker 2: there's money to spend. It's a good sign.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: So the half year results have come out and it

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Speaker 2: in the earnings. Revenue has gone up from about six

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Speaker 2: The bottom line profit increase is seventeen percent. Revenue increase

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Speaker 2: is nine percent. Now you would take that, wouldn't That's good.

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Speaker 2: Abbeef Freightways has raised something very interesting about the government's

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that shortly quarter past four.

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Speaker 2: Heather Eden Park and Auckland can't even make a single

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine, of course, is the sports talk host this

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Speaker 2: evening High Pony. Hello Heather, Do you think SOLGP is

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Speaker 2: too unsafe?

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Speaker 6: No, but I think they do need to look at

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Speaker 2: That the primary problem is just the number of boats

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Speaker 6: How close they are to shore as well, which is

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you make of Kiwi's being eligible and

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Speaker 2: I suppose anybody playing for the English Rugby League squad

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this is this is just a natural progression.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's probably he's probably been a

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Speaker 6: That could be the unintended consequence, right, Is that is

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Speaker 2: They be when do they start? Piney?

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Speaker 6: scouts from NRAL clubs are very very watchful of first

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Speaker 2: I've got some happy news for you. The Hurricanes have

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Speaker 8: It's like a reality TV show, isn't it. We're voting

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Speaker 2: It's like Treasure Island Hurricane co captain situation. So next year,

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Speaker 8: To one do one there there can be only one.

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Speaker 2: And then after that, after that we decide which half

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Speaker 1: For twenty two, the headlines and the hard questions, it's

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Speaker 9: Minister is with us act viewer departments, yes or no?

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Speaker 4: Really open to doing what we can to improve the.

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Speaker 10: Effectiveness of public service.

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Speaker 4: I still think there's a long way to go.

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Speaker 10: Issue is how do you or going to the public

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Speaker 9: You promised a lot on public service cuts, you and

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Speaker 10: Look, I think there's been a massive amount of bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's heatherd

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Speaker 2: The kaylam ponger already plays state of origin, Yes he does.

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Speaker 2: Isn't the change there that he want to play? He

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Speaker 2: him ineligible for state of origin Here the sale GP

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Speaker 2: was a blast. However, Saturday, with thirteen boats headed for

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Speaker 2: Great weekend in Auckland. The place was buzzing regards. Robbie

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Speaker 2: I'd like to now ask nay Beg that Auckland Transport

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Speaker 2: So the questions read the India FTA this week appear

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Speaker 2: we'll have a chat to him half the five o'clock

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Speaker 1: It's the World wires on News Talks he'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: Iran's deputy foreign minister says he's ready to make a

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Speaker 2: Trump has repeatedly threatened to bomb a run, but he

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Speaker 12: They give us a right deal, we won't do that,

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Speaker 2: Over in Australia, the accused Bondi shooter has appeared in

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Speaker 2: court today via video link. Navida Kram faces fifty nine charges,

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Speaker 4: At this age. It's early and this is a start

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Speaker 13: Today was an administrative a German porn.

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Speaker 4: A little bit more on the eighth of April.

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Speaker 2: And finally, former US President Barack obamasays he believes in aliens.

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Speaker 14: They're real, but I haven't seen them and they're not

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Speaker 2: He also addressed another conspiracy theory. All right, last question here,

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Speaker 2: is Tupac alive.

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Speaker 13: He's alive on my playlist.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to say this to you, right. Barack

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Speaker 2: something out there, Donald Trump. Imagine if Donald Trump had

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Speaker 2: said he believed in aliens. Barry would be doing a

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Speaker 2: twenty two away from five Oliver Peterson ABC Perth Radio

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Speaker 15: I don't know why you're complaining about the traffic trying

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Speaker 13: You just take the chopper, wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: I did you send it over because I was borrowing

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Speaker 2: some of it for you.

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Speaker 13: That's a I'll fly in for origin.

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Speaker 1: How does that?

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I just love how low did you guys are? And

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Speaker 2: you love to point it out all the time. Now,

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Speaker 15: the agenda. He also has taken aim at the federal

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Speaker 15: government or the amount of money that the public sector

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Speaker 15: is currently spending in Australia's saying it needs to reduce

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Speaker 15: an expenditure and obviously try and bring debt under control.

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Speaker 15: The IMF meanwhile, has also had a crack today Heather

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Speaker 15: at a couple of Australian states and territories, namely Victoria

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Speaker 15: and the Northern Territory for the state of its books

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Speaker 15: and saying that the governments are being irresponsible in the

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Speaker 15: amount of money that they are spending in their states.

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Speaker 2: Now, the congestion charge that's being mooted for Sydney, how much.

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Speaker 15: Well they're not putting an actual price on it, but

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Speaker 15: what they're saying is the more popular roads in the

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Speaker 15: CBD should have dynamic pricing.

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Speaker 13: A bit like when you get into a rideshare.

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Speaker 15: Right when you get into an uber and everybody wants

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Speaker 15: the uber at the same time, it costs a little

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Speaker 15: bit more. But if everybody wants to ride on the

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Speaker 15: same road in Sydney at the same time, well guess

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Speaker 15: what you get to pay for it. Now Sydney is

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Speaker 15: described by its own premiere of New South Wales, Chris Men's,

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Speaker 15: as toll Mania, and I think that's a very app description.

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Speaker 15: There are so many toll roads now in Sydney and

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Speaker 15: they never seem to want to take the tolls off

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Speaker 15: although they were meant to.

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Speaker 13: So this is currently being denied by Premier Mens.

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Speaker 15: He doesn't want to introduce specific dynamic pricing structures and

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Speaker 15: tolls into the CBD. But it's something London's done, and

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Speaker 15: it's something that obviously as we try and get out

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Speaker 15: of our cars and get onto public transport. Heather that

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Speaker 15: obviously these major capital cities in the world like Sydney

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Speaker 15: and Perth and about Auckland will consider.

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Speaker 2: Well, Auckland's already considering. I mean we've discussed as I

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Speaker 2: think I think we've broadly come to the conclusion that

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Speaker 2: we need to do it. I mean, how's Sidney going

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Speaker 2: to react to it?

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Speaker 15: Just borrow your chopper at the early Copper and get

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Speaker 15: to the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Hey, tell me about these protest laws and you're part

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Speaker 2: of the world.

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Speaker 13: Well, this is interesting, right, So we've brought this in.

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Speaker 15: I didn't think anybody saw it was coming in wa

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Speaker 15: where I am in Perth and they're looking to introduce

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Speaker 15: these these beefed up protest laws. Whether the police may

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Speaker 15: be able to a sanction whether a protest goes ahead

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Speaker 15: or not.

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Speaker 13: Now they already have that.

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Speaker 15: But they're saying that this is about the idea of

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Speaker 15: it not being based on sexuality, on religion, on people's beliefs.

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Speaker 13: Yet I just find it a little bit old.

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Speaker 15: They're saying it's in relation to what happened in Bondi

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Speaker 15: and the terror attack we had here last month in Perth.

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Speaker 15: But I think the police already have these laws and

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Speaker 15: the concern that he's being raised by the Greens in particular,

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Speaker 15: and I think it's a fair question that they're actually

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Speaker 15: asking her that I can't believe. I'm saying that is,

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Speaker 15: are the police going to ultimately decide what can and

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Speaker 15: cannot go ahead in terms of what they view is

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Speaker 15: a reason to protest or not. And I think in

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Speaker 15: our country and your country, the fact that we do

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Speaker 15: have protests and it is a right under our democracies

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Speaker 15: should be respected and it should be respected by the protesters,

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Speaker 15: don't get me wrong. And I think they have a

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Speaker 15: little bit to answer for themselves here. But police saying

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Speaker 15: what can and cannot go ahead. If it's going to

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Speaker 15: be within the laws of holding a peaceful protest, surely

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Speaker 15: it goes ahead.

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Speaker 3: YEP.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you on that, Ollie, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Olli Peterson ABC Perth Radio Drive presenter eighteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Heither do for cllen so straightways.

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Speaker 2: So, when announcing the result today, the freightway's boss raised

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Speaker 2: concerns about the government's border tax. Now, I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: if you're aware, but there is a tax coming in

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Speaker 2: on April one that's going to add It's basically going

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Speaker 2: to be on everything that comes into the country under

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Speaker 2: the value of one thousand dollars as commercial freight. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be charged a tax of two dollars twenty

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Speaker 2: one per item. Now Freightways is raising concern about it

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Speaker 2: because the commercial companies have to pay a higher tax.

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Speaker 2: It would seem than mail does on some items. So

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Speaker 2: the example that they've used is if you ordered yourself

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Speaker 2: a toothbrush from Timu, if you get it sent commercially

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Speaker 2: through one of the commercial courier companies, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be it's just going to poop two dollars twenty one

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Speaker 2: is going to be popped on top of that, and

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Speaker 2: that's that. But if it comes in through the mail

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Speaker 2: and it weighs less than half a kg, four hundred

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Speaker 2: grams or whatever, it's just going to copy charge of

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Speaker 2: sixty cents. The difference between sixty cents and two dollars

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Speaker 2: twenty one reasonably significant. Right, So what they're doing is

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Speaker 2: they are now lobbying mb for what they're calling a

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Speaker 2: level playing field, right because all of this stuff is

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Speaker 2: just going to add up and add up and add

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Speaker 2: up and add up. For the commercial guys, we'll have

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Speaker 2: a chat to them after five o'clock. They're going to

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Speaker 2: be with US freight ways. But also after six o'clock

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Speaker 2: we're gonna ask Nichola Willis about this. Because we've got

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Speaker 2: the gas tax, now you've got the border tax. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot more taxes to tell you about through the

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Speaker 2: course of this show, So stand by Barrisapas with us

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Speaker 2: next sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certaday, former warrior Kevin Campion of the State of Origin

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Speaker 2: coming to New Zealand. He's with us after the half

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Speaker 2: past five right now, thirteen away from five And Barry

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Speaker 2: Sooper is our senior political correspondent. Hello, Barry, Oh, good afternoon,

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Speaker 2: Heather dan Park Dealers, well over due, isn't it?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's incredible really, And look, I take my hat

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Speaker 16: off to Nick Sautner, the chief executive at eden Park.

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Speaker 16: He works tirelessly there and you know this deal the

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Speaker 16: State of Origin has taken three years to negotiate. You

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Speaker 16: can imagine a lot of behind the scenes would have

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Speaker 16: gone on with that, and you know they've pulled it off.

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Speaker 17: But not just that.

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Speaker 16: When you look at they can host twelve large concerts

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Speaker 16: it's what one a month, but medium sized concerts they

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Speaker 16: can have another twenty any day of the week. Now,

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Speaker 16: some residents, including the old mate Helen Clark, could be

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Speaker 16: pretty upset about that, but it's the old story, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: If you buy a house next to a or what

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Speaker 16: railway line you expect to hear trains going past.

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Speaker 2: Now Fairs to the residents like, I don't think that

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Speaker 2: we should overlook the It's a fair gripe from them,

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Speaker 2: because if you buy a house next to a railway

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Speaker 2: line where one train comes by every day, it's very

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Speaker 2: different to all of a sudden having a train coming

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Speaker 2: by every hour.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 16: But look, you know when you look at the return,

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Speaker 16: I can't remember. I think it was three dollars something

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Speaker 16: for a dollar spent, and you know that's the return

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Speaker 16: to the economy, not just an Auckland, but the country

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Speaker 16: as well. I think it's a great deal for New Zealand,

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Speaker 16: and I think.

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Speaker 2: You know more more, But is the actual thing not

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Speaker 2: actually that you've got this giant facility sitting there and

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Speaker 2: you're going, no, you're not allowed to use it.

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Speaker 13: Don't use it.

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Speaker 2: That's dumb.

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Speaker 16: It's a magnificent stadium. And look, I've talked to next

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Speaker 16: Saughtener a lot about what he would love to do there,

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Speaker 16: and the ideas that he have has I think are

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Speaker 16: absolutely fantastic and I say good luck to anyone that's

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Speaker 16: involved with them.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Is labor playing games for the ndie Fdo they are

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Speaker 2: well of course.

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Speaker 16: They are, and you know there will be a signature,

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Speaker 16: a labor party signature and sign off of this agreement.

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Speaker 16: But the problem is the longer the deal is delayed,

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Speaker 16: the worse it could be.

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Speaker 17: For New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: I'm thinking of wine here, because the Europeans are champing

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Speaker 16: at the bit as well, and if we don't sign

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Speaker 16: at a certain time, then our wine makers will be

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Speaker 16: disadvantage to as I understand the agreements, is.

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Speaker 2: It not that we have the ability like if we

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Speaker 2: sign it now before the Europeans sign there, and if

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Speaker 2: they get a better deal, then ours will automatically raise

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Speaker 2: to match their deal. But if we don't sign it

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Speaker 2: before them and they get a bit of deal, we

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Speaker 2: miss out.

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Speaker 16: That's exactly the way it's written. And you know that

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Speaker 16: really is a big issue. And look, Chris Hipkins, some

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Speaker 16: of the stuff he's raised, and I would have thought

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Speaker 16: that he would have known this before he even raised it.

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Speaker 16: That they talked about the number of students visa's going

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Speaker 16: to be issued under this agreement and how students could

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Speaker 16: be flooding into the country. Now he should said there

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Speaker 16: should be a cap on the number of students. Well,

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Speaker 16: I'm sorry, there's no cap. There's no immigration cap on

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Speaker 16: any students coming into New Zealand. So it's not just

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Speaker 16: the Indians, it's everybody else as well. So that's to me,

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Speaker 16: that's one of the aspects that he's concerned about. Well,

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Speaker 16: if he understood the immigration law the way he should

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Speaker 16: do before making these statements, then there wouldn't be a problem.

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Speaker 2: Now, what did you make of David Siemol's announcement yesterday

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Speaker 2: that he wants us smaller government government departments? What forty

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Speaker 2: one down to thirty and minister's twenty eight down to twenty.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and we've heard it all before. I mean he

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Speaker 16: first made the call and I think it was May

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Speaker 16: last year, just at the beginning of May. And you

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Speaker 16: know he's air marked a number of ministries he'd like

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Speaker 16: to see act and you know, the Mari Development Ministry,

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Speaker 16: the People's Specific Ministry, Women Ethnic Communities and outside the ministries,

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Speaker 16: he had also liked the Human Rights Commission to go.

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Speaker 16: So that would reduce a lot of public servants, There's

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Speaker 16: no doubt about that. And you've got to look at

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Speaker 16: some of these ministries and say, really they are they

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Speaker 16: worthy of remaining on the book If they're.

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Speaker 2: Not actually delivering a service. Well, let's think about it

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Speaker 2: like this. You have got some service delivery ministries, right,

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Speaker 2: so the idea is actually taking tax and paying things

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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. You've got the Ministry of Health

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Speaker 2: that's actually doing things like running a health department. If

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Speaker 2: it's just a policy ministry, like just a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people sitting around thinking about that ministry.

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Speaker 16: Led into another ministry quite easily.

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Speaker 2: Because spy, do you want to keep scrap it if

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Speaker 2: all they're doing is thinking about things, get rid of that.

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Speaker 16: The other thing is that, of course the number of

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Speaker 16: ministers he's suggested eight ministry should go. This is minister portfolios,

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Speaker 16: child poverty reduction, where we saw how successful just doing

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Speaker 16: this with that one hospitality, voluntary sector, racing Auckland, South Ireland,

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Speaker 16: you know, hunting and fishing and space. I think space though,

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Speaker 16: I quite like the Space Ministry because we've increased the

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Speaker 16: number of launchers now that we're allowed to have from

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Speaker 16: New Zealand and I think.

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Speaker 2: So she made one decision and you like the whole ministry.

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Speaker 2: She's you're easy to please.

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Speaker 16: No, it's not that hither this could be a real

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Speaker 16: money spinner for this country. I mean we could be this,

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Speaker 16: we could be the NASA of the future.

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Speaker 3: Harry.

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Speaker 2: It's not a minister that's going to spin the money.

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Speaker 2: It's a private sector.

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Speaker 16: Yes, we have the private sector. The private sector is

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Speaker 16: pushing this government and doing quite well, thank you. And

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Speaker 16: I think we should have a minister that they can

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Speaker 16: lobby to do these sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Barry, thanks miss, Senior political correspondent eight away from

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Speaker 2: five so oh week at at Otago University starts today

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Speaker 2: and this year the police and the university are particularly worried,

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Speaker 2: especially given the guy fell off the roof last week,

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Speaker 2: and I think another chap fell off another roof actually

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Speaker 2: late last year. Anyway, we're going to have a chat

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Speaker 2: to the University of Otago student union after quarter pass

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Speaker 2: and just see how they're going to handle this situation.

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Speaker 2: So Donald Trump did actually say whether he believes in

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Speaker 2: aliens or not. He spoke to Logan Paul during the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election campaign.

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Speaker 18: I met with pilots like beautiful Tom Cruise, but taller, okay, handsome,

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Speaker 18: perfect people, sir. There was something there that was round

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Speaker 18: in form and going like four times faster than my

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Speaker 18: super jet Fighter plane, and I look at these guys

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Speaker 18: and they really mean it. Am I a believer in?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 18: I probably? I can't say I am.

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Speaker 2: I can't. How is it that Donald Trump saying that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't believe in aliens still sounds more unhinged than

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama saying he does believe in aliens? I don't understand.

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Speaker 8: Those two clips are actually such an excellent demonstration of

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Speaker 8: the two different ways those guys talk. Because Barack Obama calmly,

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Speaker 8: insensibly tells us what we already know. They probably exist,

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Speaker 8: but we've never seen any and Trump just does his

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Speaker 8: best impression of a fighter pilot and talks about how

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Speaker 8: pretty they are.

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Speaker 2: It's hey, here's the ironic story of the day. You

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Speaker 2: know what the Havanas and Rome is. This is the

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Speaker 2: theory that the diplomats stationed in the US embassy and

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Speaker 2: Cuba began suffering from unexplained cognitive symptoms like virtigo and

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Speaker 2: memory loss, hearing loss, really bad headaches and stuff because

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Speaker 2: of a machine that was being deployed to deliberately harm them,

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Speaker 2: and it was emitting powerful pulses of microwave energy. Right,

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Speaker 2: the theory has been around for ten years. Turns out

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Speaker 2: now that a scientist in Norway built one because he

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Speaker 2: wanted to prove that a machine like this couldn't possibly

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Speaker 2: hurt humans, and then he tested it on himself and

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Speaker 2: gave himself brain damage. Yeah, don't test things on yourself.

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Speaker 2: I suppose there's a lesson anyway. Chris Hopkins is with

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Speaker 2: us on the India FTA next Newstalks.

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Speaker 7: He'd be.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try. Truck to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, you get the answers, find the faack and

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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Here the duplicy elland drive with one

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Speaker 1: V afternoon.

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Speaker 2: We have yet more questions about the free trade deal

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Speaker 2: with India, this time about the commitment from New Zealand

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Speaker 2: of thirty three billion New Zealand dollars of private business

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Speaker 2: investment into India over the next fifteen years. Chris Hipkins

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Speaker 2: is the Labor Party leader. High Chippie, get a Heather,

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Speaker 2: what's your concern?

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Speaker 7: Well, we're concerned that New Zealand, the current government could

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Speaker 7: be signing New Zealand up to a commitment that we

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Speaker 7: are unlikely to ever be able to meet, and that

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Speaker 7: we could find the free trade agreement unpicked on the

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Speaker 7: India side very quickly, if we don't meet that commitment.

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you mean that if we don't meet

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Speaker 2: the commitment, they just pull our market access.

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Speaker 7: So if you look at the coverage of the free

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Speaker 7: trade agreement in India, they've been describing it as an

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Speaker 7: investment and labor mobility agreement, and they have been very

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Speaker 7: clear that this is a commitment by New Zealand to

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Speaker 7: inject up to thirty three million New Zealand dollars a

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Speaker 7: twenty sorry billion, twenty billion US dollars from New Zealand

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Speaker 7: into India over the.

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Speaker 5: Next fifteen years.

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Speaker 7: And they've actually made some pretty sweeping statements and if

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Speaker 7: New Zealand doesn't meet that commitment, we can cancel the deal.

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Speaker 2: But aren't they just playing politics as well? Like everybody's

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Speaker 2: playing politics, including them.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think we need to understand what it means

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Speaker 7: for New Zealand. So there is actually a wording issue

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Speaker 7: here that we need to really get our heads around.

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Speaker 7: So on the India side, they are saying it is

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Speaker 7: a commitment by the New Zealand government to facilitate that investment.

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Speaker 7: On the New Zealand side, they're saying, Oh, it's just

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Speaker 7: we're just going to promote it. If it doesn't happen,

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter. I think we need to understand the

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Speaker 7: consequences of New Zealand not meeting that commitment, and whether

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Speaker 7: in fact it's a commitment to facilitate that investment or

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Speaker 7: just to promote investment in India.

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Speaker 2: Now did have to be promoting investment, right, because I

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Speaker 2: can't see any world in which we can put that

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Speaker 2: much money of private that much private money into them

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Speaker 2: in fifteen years. That's impossible.

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Speaker 7: I think it's almost entirely impossible, and that's why I'm

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Speaker 7: surprised that they're trying to sign us up to that.

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Speaker 7: To put that into context, you know, I think over

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Speaker 7: the last twenty five years less than a billion New

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Speaker 7: Zealand dollars has been invested in India. In the first

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Speaker 7: fifteen years of our free trade agreement with China, I

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Speaker 7: think there's about one and a half billion dollars worth

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Speaker 7: of investment from New Zealand into China. And the lion's

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Speaker 7: here of that was Fonterra, and of course Fonterra is

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Speaker 7: largely excluded from the India Free Trade Agreement.

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Speaker 2: Now you're not going to pull your support for this,

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 7: Well, we certainly don't want to. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: play a game of chicken with the government over this. Well,

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Speaker 7: I want to find a way forward so that New

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Speaker 7: Zealand exporters can get the benefits of this trade agreement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're not going to pull support a I

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Speaker 2: suspect you're playing a bit of politics here too.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm not trying to make this into a high

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Speaker 7: stakes thing. We want to understand the advice the government's received.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've got different government ministers saying the advice

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Speaker 7: is different things. Winston Peters are saying the advice is

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Speaker 7: it's a bad deal. I just want to see the

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Speaker 7: advice before we you know, we just can't give the

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Speaker 7: government with a blank cheek here. But there's a trade

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Speaker 7: agreement with India potentially a very good thing for New Zealand,

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Speaker 7: and then yes, it potentially is all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Jepe, thanks for your time. It's Chris Hopkins, Labor

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Speaker 2: Party lead in ten plus five. Ever, do for see

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Speaker 2: Ellen now if you're looking for assign the economy is

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Speaker 2: recovering here it is. Freightways has posted a strong first

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Speaker 2: half result. Profit is up by seventeen percent, revenues up

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Speaker 2: by nine percent. The chief executive, Mark trowhere is with us.

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Speaker 19: Now, ho Mark, Hi, Heather, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Now can we take it

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Speaker 2: from this that the recovery is underway?

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Speaker 20: Look, I think it's just started in New Zealand. It's

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Speaker 20: a good result on that spit of market share gains.

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Speaker 20: Australia going really well for us, But in New Zealand

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Speaker 20: you're just starting to see customers trade a little bit

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Speaker 20: up on what they did last year. So yep, early

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Speaker 20: stages good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Now why is your oversized business doing so well?

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Speaker 20: I think it's a niche where it's often called ugly

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Speaker 20: freight and a lot of carriers don't necessarily like it.

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Speaker 20: So if you're delivering a bit of flat pack furniture

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Speaker 20: to your house, or you ordered a bike, can you

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Speaker 20: want that delivered? It's stuff that's a bit too big

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Speaker 20: for couriers, it's a bit too small for freight forwarders.

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Speaker 20: So we're filling that niche. And yeah, not too many

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Speaker 20: direct competitors in that space, and the.

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Speaker 2: Food and hospitality sector, from what you're seeing, is still

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Speaker 2: laying the rest of the economy.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I think December was better, but look at it

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Speaker 20: has certainly been a bit softer. We deliver a lot

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Speaker 20: of more expensive food. It's salmon, it's good cuts of steak, gormet, dairy,

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Speaker 20: all those types of things, and the domestic economy it's

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Speaker 20: been a bit tougher. A lot of those a lot

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Speaker 20: of those producers are sending that stuff offshore because Keywis

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Speaker 20: aren't consuming as much of it.

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Speaker 2: I see, now, what is your concern about the border? Tax?

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Speaker 20: Equality? Is my concern? So fundamentally the tax or the

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Speaker 20: fee or the levy, the customs fee, I think is

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Speaker 20: the way they talk about it. From our point of view,

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Speaker 20: if you bring an item over the border and it

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Speaker 20: needs to be checked by customs, pay the same fee

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Speaker 20: for that item, regardless of whether it goes through a

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Speaker 20: commercial operator like ourselves, or a FedEx or a UPS

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Speaker 20: or whoever, or whether it gets directed through a mail

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Speaker 20: stream so or where after. Simply is a level playing field.

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Speaker 2: And so how much more are you paying than the

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Speaker 2: likes of New Zealand Post.

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Speaker 20: Well, the average item is around about half a kilo.

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Speaker 20: We'll pay two dollars twenty one an item, although the

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Speaker 20: customer will if it goes through the mail, half a

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Speaker 20: kilo will be about sixty cents, So we're paying close

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Speaker 20: to four times as much for exactly the same item,

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Speaker 20: regardless of whether, you know, depending on what stream it

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Speaker 20: goes through.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like a lot adds up.

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Speaker 20: Look a lot of the lot of the Chinese e

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Speaker 20: commerce players they will shift their volume for fifty cents,

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Speaker 20: let alone the difference of a dollar sixty. So yeah,

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Speaker 20: it can it can add up, and it can be material.

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Speaker 20: And you don't make a whole lot of profit on

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Speaker 20: these items first place, so it's not as if you

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Speaker 20: can afford to subsidize the different All.

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Speaker 2: Right, Mark, listen, thanks for talking to us. Appreciated Mark Trowere,

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Speaker 2: who's the Freightway CEO. We will raise that with Nikola

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Speaker 2: Willis when she's with us after six, because that's another

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Speaker 2: tax we need to deal with. Isn't it thirteen past five?

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Speaker 13: Heather do so?

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Speaker 2: Contact Energy is reported as well today. Is something of

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Speaker 2: a surprise that Contact has announced its raising capital because

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Speaker 2: I think it was Genesis had kind of that was

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Speaker 2: something that had been forecast as happening with Genesis, but

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Speaker 2: not so much with Contact. They want another let's own

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Speaker 2: additional half a billion dollars or thereabouts, I want to

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Speaker 2: spend it on new generation also energy storage. The energy

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Speaker 2: storage is interesting. This is batteries, a giant bank of

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Speaker 2: Tesla batteries that they're going to install near the steel

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Speaker 2: mill at Glenbrook, and it will be capable of releasing

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Speaker 2: two hundred megawatts of electricity, which is enough to power

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Speaker 2: about four percent of Auckland's peak power demand, and then

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Speaker 2: it can run full noise for two hours and then

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Speaker 2: it needs to be recharged. Now on your electricity bill.

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Speaker 2: If you don't love what's happened to your electricity bill lately,

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Speaker 2: and frankly, who does, you're not going to love this

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Speaker 2: contact is reporting a forty four percent increase in its

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Speaker 2: net profit. That's just for the six months to December.

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Speaker 2: It has paid out a big old dividend payment and

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Speaker 2: it is going to raise electricity prices at the rate

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Speaker 2: of inflation this upcoming year fourteen past five. Heither the

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Speaker 2: Indian government are trying to sell the FDA to their people.

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Speaker 2: So of course that talking it up Andy, thank you

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Speaker 2: for that. Seventeen past five. Now oh week is kicking

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Speaker 2: off today. But this year there is added concern given

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Speaker 2: that two students have fallen off roofs in Otaga or

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Speaker 2: around Otaga University in just the last five months. Daniel

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Speaker 2: Lemi is the OUSA president and with us now, Hi Daniel, Hello,

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Speaker 2: how's it going very well? Thank you? So how's it

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Speaker 2: looking as O Week? As big as ever this year?

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Speaker 21: The weather is holding off, so it will be another

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Speaker 21: big year for O Week.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: We just had a whole lot of students, particularly our

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Speaker 21: first years, coming down settling in, so yeah, should be

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Speaker 21: a good week ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well look, it might just be that I'm a little

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Speaker 2: bit out of the loop and got too old for

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00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,479
Speaker 2: conversations like this. But what is this business with flow week?

876
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: How long has this been going on?

877
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 21: I believe it's a relatively new thing. So flow week

878
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 21: is short for a flatting oh week? So it's more

879
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 21: the second years and above, so people have moved out

880
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 21: of colleges, which is the first year thing sort of

881
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 21: do that? What's the thing in Dunedin? But yes, it's

882
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 21: been around a while now, right, so.

883
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: It's two weeks worth a partying nownstairs, just the one Daniel,

884
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: what are you guys doing given that you have had

885
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: a bit of a bad run with people falling off

886
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,959
Speaker 2: roof slately, what's the safety plan.

887
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 21: Yeah, obviously we're telling students to stay safe, look after

888
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 21: their friends. But I guess something that we always point

889
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 21: out is, you know, there's twenty thousand odd students down

890
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 21: here in Dunedin now, and yeah, you definitely hear that

891
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 21: there's the odd story of people making bad decisions or

892
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 21: or whatever else happen. But for the vast majority, students

893
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 21: are well behaved students. Students are allowed to go and

894
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 21: enjoy themselves. They are in a new new place for

895
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 21: the majority, and they are just going out there having

896
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 21: fun and in a safe way. But yeah, that is

897
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Speaker 21: something that we're always mindful of.

898
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: All right, Daniel, thanks very much, best of luck with

899
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: it is Daniel lemi Otaga University Students Association President. If

900
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: you're like, you know what, when you got when you

901
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: have the little ones, you feel like you kind of

902
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: get through that first, you get through the first like

903
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 2: three years, and you feel a little bit more confident,

904
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: like they aren't just going to pick something up like

905
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: a marble off the floor and choke themselves to death,

906
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? They're like, thank god,

907
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: here we go. We're a bit safe and now we

908
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: can handle stairs small items. I can start pulling those

909
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: weird little plastic covers off the power points and then

910
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: you get to university and then it's just ye worry

911
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: all over again, don't you. The Government's agreed by the

912
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: way today to launch a ministerial review into the failure

913
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: at more Points, seewage Plant and Wellington, so that will

914
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: be wonderful news for Wellington's I think Wellington does deserve

915
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: some answers there. Now. We have got a little bit

916
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: of data on the housing market and if you were

917
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: looking for a pack up, you probably would. I mean,

918
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: I think by now we're probably not expecting it. But

919
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 2: I don't know how you're going to feel about this.

920
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: Still a bit slow according to the figures from Aria

921
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: and Z for January, so house prices across the month

922
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: last month fell zero point two percent. The number of

923
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: houses sold were down five point four percent. It looks

924
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: like what's going on here is all this talk about

925
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: the ocr rising has basically spooked people. So everybody's gone

926
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: whoop and pulled back a week. But even though it's

927
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: only going to happen in December and might not be

928
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 2: by much, if you actually look at the numbers, it's

929
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: done enough to kind of scare the horses. There's also

930
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: you can add to that the election uncertainty. Plus then

931
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: you've obviously got the factor that we have lower migration,

932
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: which means fewer buyers out there competing against you. The

933
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: only areas of notable price rises with Southland, which went

934
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: up and this is over the last quarter, so over

935
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: the last three months went up plus three point two percent.

936
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: Otago went up one point two percent. A big falls

937
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: were in no surprise, Wellington and Auckland. So Wellington in

938
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: the last three months came back one point seven percent.

939
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: Auckland came back one point one percent over the last

940
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: three months. Matt Ball is with the Property Investors Federation.

941
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: He'll be with us after half past six and talk

942
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: us through that five twenty one.

943
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicllen Drive

944
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand coverage like no one else news talks.

945
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: They'd be Heather.

946
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that Chippy is our foremost expert in

947
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: writing blank checks with no accountability, so it's a little

948
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: bit rich for me. Well well said Kevin Campion is

949
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: going to be with us just after half past five,

950
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: took us through the state of our It's five twenty

951
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: four now. It occurred to me yesterday while I was

952
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: listening to David Seymour announced ACTS planned to campaign for

953
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: a smaller government, that there are two words that I

954
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: need to hear from each one of these coalition parties

955
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: when they're announcing policy for the forthcoming election. Otherwise I'm

956
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: just going to hang up the proverbial phone. And those

957
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: two words are bottom line. If they don't say it's

958
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: a bottom line, I'm going to assume it's not going

959
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: to happen. Because ACTS promised yesterday, right, take that, the

960
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: promise to campaign on cutting the number of government departments

961
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: from forty one to thirty, in the number of ministers

962
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: from twenty eight to twenty. It's laudable. I'd really like

963
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: to see it happen. But it's just the reheat of

964
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: what they said at the last election, isn't it, which

965
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: was that they would cut the number of public servants

966
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: by fourteen thousand to take the size of the public

967
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: service back to where it was before Jacinda and Grant

968
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: went nuts. And yet how many did they cut two thousand?

969
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: Same with Winston Peters. Last week he announced his campaigning

970
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: on a referendum on the Mardi seats. But I'm still

971
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: waiting for him to get around to deleting all the

972
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: references to the Treaty Principles and legislation, which was what

973
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 2: he said he was going to do at the last election,

974
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: and same to a degree with National because no new

975
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: taxes turns out to actually be a border tax, a

976
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: gas tax, and now the possibility of a new bank tax. Now,

977
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: of course, some of this is simply the result of

978
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: coalition negotiations. Not everybody can get everything that they want.

979
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: But some of it is also cynical politics, isn't it.

980
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: But either way, the parties can't run in twenty twenty

981
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: on a variation of what they ran on in twenty

982
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: twenty three and then didn't deliver on, as they say,

983
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: once bitten twice shy. So if it's not a bottom line,

984
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to assume it's going the way of the

985
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: public service cuts, the Treaty Principles deletions, and the.

986
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: No new taxes here, the duplessy allen here.

987
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: The polease stop oh hither. My son was one of

988
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: the numpties that fell off a roof four years ago

989
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: broke us back. I can't believe we're still talking about this.

990
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: It's so scary here the police stop saying roofs. It's

991
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 2: roofs now Ross. We went to ants ran out after

992
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: we saw your text. Ross, ants ran out of the studio.

993
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: Who did you ask anst did you ask Graylen?

994
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 4: I asked the sub editor.

995
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: Who's the sub editor? Anna? Anna knows her stuff and

996
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: is pedantic. She's a pedant. And actually the news talk

997
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: zb rule on roofs versus roofs is roofs now Ross.

998
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. I also much prefer

999
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: roofs like hooves and wolves. You know, it's the old

1000
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: English thing where you have a e F and then

1001
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: you pluralize it becomes so we're still doing that thing.

1002
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: But what you need to understand is most people nowaday

1003
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: are writing roofs, and we just we may need to.

1004
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: I feel like I was saying I was saying to

1005
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: the boys just before, It's like, if you're still saying

1006
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: the word resistance when everybody is saying pushing back, you

1007
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: just need to start saying pushing back. You know, you

1008
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: got you gotta get it with the kids, and you know,

1009
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: you and I Ross may talk about having an experience

1010
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: in our lives, but the young people now are going

1011
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: on a journey. So we're and you know, like we

1012
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: might still because we speak old English obviously, those of

1013
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 2: us who still say roofs, and we might have talked about,

1014
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: you know, we have a life's experience and we have

1015
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: some lessons, but nowadays it's.

1016
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 8: Wait, we're not accepting that one. I refuse to accept

1017
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 8: that one. It's lessons.

1018
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: No, So you've got to get on board with English.

1019
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, we're dumbing it right down for

1020
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: people because remember what we've been doing to the kids

1021
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: for the last wee while, right, we haven't been teaching

1022
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: them English properly. So we're trying to make it understand

1023
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: like no kid is going to be kids can't even

1024
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: spell any more. Ross. So you know, like if you

1025
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: come to them and you're like, roof, what's the like

1026
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: if you have what they don't even know what plural means,

1027
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 2: if you got any go one roof, you got two?

1028
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: What refs? That can't comprehend roofs. Okay, So anyway, no,

1029
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: I'm taking the mickey. I'll go back to I was

1030
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: just trying to be I was trying to be cool

1031
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: like the Colcads. I'll go back to saying roofs because

1032
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: that is actually my prefer I do prefer Old English.

1033
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go and and we're gonna start using

1034
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: words like hither and thither and wuthering and what was

1035
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 2: the other one verily uses.

1036
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Next, the day's newspeakers talk to Heather first, Heather Duplicell

1037
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: and drive with one New Zealand and the power of

1038
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: satellite Mobile New Sauce. It'd be me, don't be number the.

1039
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 13: Things me.

1040
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 11: Right.

1041
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Thing in the Willis is with us. After six o'clock,

1042
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna ask her about all the taxes, you know

1043
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: what else. I'm going to ask her about the border

1044
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: tax today. We've got the gas tax.

1045
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 22: Obviously, we've got the uh water tax from the other day,

1046
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 22: but actually that was the one that was in oh

1047
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 22: and then the other one that was in Matthew Howson's column,

1048
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 22: which was the weather damage tax.

1049
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: So we'll find out a little bit more about that

1050
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: from a Winches with us and got the huddle standing

1051
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: by Tris Sheherson and Mark Sainsbury this evening. It's twenty

1052
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: four away from six. For see ellen Rugby League's worst

1053
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: kept secret is Outstate of Origin is coming to Auckland.

1054
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: One of the Origin Games in twenty twenty seven is

1055
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: going to be held at Eden Park and the politicians

1056
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: reckon about ten thousand dozzies are going to fly over

1057
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: it to attend it, and Auckland's Mayor Wayne Brown's real excited.

1058
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 4: Thwe were another great weekend, you know, like we just had.

1059
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 6: We want a whole string of these to come through,

1060
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 6: which is why I've been pushing the bed night leaving for.

1061
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 4: So long now.

1062
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: Kevin Campion is a former warrior. He played for the

1063
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: Queensland Maroons and he's with us now. Hi, Kevin, good afternoon.

1064
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 17: How are you.

1065
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. How the YOSSI is feeling

1066
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: about this?

1067
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 4: Oh?

1068
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 17: I think it's good news. I think it's long over,

1069
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 17: Dudy to you the true like, you know, just the

1070
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 17: Origins show piece of our game and to take it

1071
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 17: over to in New Zealand. I think it was just

1072
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 17: the next step in the Yeah, in the process, that's.

1073
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: What you think, Kivin. But what are the odds that

1074
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: are they king on it?

1075
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 17: Look? I think every Aussie, especially Queensland and New South

1076
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 17: of As would be right for it. I can't see

1077
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 17: any any objections at all. I just think it's a

1078
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 17: great move by the NRL and a great move by

1079
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 17: sport in New Zealand in general.

1080
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean, do you reckon many of them will fly

1081
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: over here for it? And also aren't we isn't New

1082
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: Zealand basically just going to snap up the tickets as

1083
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: soon as they're available, meaning none will be available for Australians.

1084
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 17: Well quite possibly.

1085
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 4: I think.

1086
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 17: Look, there's a lot of support for especially Origin in Auckland.

1087
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 17: I found out that first team and when I played

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Speaker 17: over there, so most Auckland does go for Queensland, and look,

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Speaker 17: I think it's I think it's just a wonderful decision

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Speaker 17: by the NROL. And yeah, it's a great cave for

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Speaker 17: New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when it comes over here next year and

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Speaker 2: the stadium is full of people absolutely fizzing for it,

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Speaker 2: do you think it's going to make New Zealand's case

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Speaker 2: for needing a second squad in the competition.

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Speaker 17: I don't know about that, but look, I love the

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Speaker 17: Warriors and I love seeing them as the only team

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Speaker 17: in New gel at the moment. So they've got great

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Speaker 17: support and I'll continue to get great support. But you

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Speaker 17: know it'll be a showcase whether or not they can

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Speaker 17: you know, can control two teams over there and all

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Speaker 17: support two teams over there. Yeah. Look, any any new

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Speaker 17: team to rugby league is a good thing. I don't Yeah,

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Speaker 17: I'm not a big fan of the PMNG decision, but

1105
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Speaker 17: you know that's just druggy league at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Kevin, Thank you very much, mate, Enjoy

1107
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Speaker 2: the rest of your day. That's Kevin Campian, former Maroon

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Speaker 2: and former Warrior, twenty two away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty, a

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00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: name you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 2: On the huddle of this this evening, Tris Shurson Shurson,

1112
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: Willis pr and Mark Sainsbury broadcast to hire you two

1113
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: good Hello. Now, I don't know about yu, Trisha. Would

1114
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: you be a bogan who's into you're going to go

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Speaker 2: to the rugbyley.

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Speaker 19: Well, I don't think you'll find me at the State

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Speaker 19: of Origin match, but that doesn't mean I am not

1118
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 19: fizzing about it. Coming to Auckland. I was driving around

1119
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 19: last week as often I haven't with the radio on,

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Speaker 19: and I heard someone on talking about how this last

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Speaker 19: weekend we've had in Auckland that our hotel bookings had

1122
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Speaker 19: been the biggest they had been since pre COVID, and

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Speaker 19: I just think, you know, the Queen City over the

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Speaker 19: last six years had really lost her shine, and I

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Speaker 19: feel like she's getting it back. You can living in Auckland.

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Speaker 19: You can just feel it as you drive around. We've

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Speaker 19: got amazing things like the sale GP and having a

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Speaker 19: big forward pipeline of these great events like state of

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Speaker 19: Origin means that hopefully Auckland can get back into playing

1130
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Speaker 19: in the big leagues when it comes to these kinds

1131
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Speaker 19: of events. But we do need those big league settings.

1132
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Speaker 19: That makes it great for events to come here.

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Speaker 2: You're too right, I mean, actually, in all honesty saying so,

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00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: the announcement of state of Origin is actually much less

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Speaker 2: important than the change of rules for Eden Park, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of a sort of

1137
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: a game.

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Speaker 23: I mean, it's I think everyone seems he pleased about that,

1139
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Speaker 23: unless you can happen to be you know, some of

1140
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Speaker 23: the people who live there who don't like it going on.

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Speaker 4: I mean I found it.

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Speaker 23: The interesting thing about the State of our courses is

1143
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 23: they could have it at any stadium in Australian sells out.

1144
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 23: You know, they don't need to bring it here as

1145
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Speaker 23: a money spinner, but they want to grow the game.

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Speaker 2: And we sweetened it with five mil.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 23: Look, you know, as I said that one of those

1149
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Speaker 23: state of games, wherever you had them, we ever had.

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Speaker 4: Them, is going to be a money spinner.

1151
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah too.

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Speaker 23: Right, So, and look I think it's fantastic. And there's

1153
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Speaker 23: I think Trish is right, you know, having things that

1154
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 23: look forward to you sort of get that lift without

1155
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 23: it before you even speak the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah too. Right, now this FDA business, Trish, what do

1157
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: you think about this? So we is this thirty three

1158
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: billion dollars over fifteen years serious?

1159
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Speaker 19: Well, I mean, I don't know about whether it's The

1160
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 19: question is whether it's serious. I think the question is

1161
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Speaker 19: what does the wording actually mean? Because when it comes

1162
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 19: to trade deals, they open doors, but of course they

1163
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 19: don't make companies walk through them. So this thirty four

1164
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 19: billion line sounds good that that's essentially saying, you know,

1165
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Speaker 19: our companies will go off and make these investments in India.

1166
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Speaker 19: But the real question is can we here in New

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Speaker 19: Zealand create the conditions where businesses want to actually make

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Speaker 19: that kind of investment at scale? And I think that's

1169
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 19: the bigger question, and often we get confused between what

1170
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Speaker 19: government can do and actually all of the the real

1171
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 19: business stuff that businesses have to do to make this

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Speaker 19: stuff work.

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Speaker 2: Yep, fair point Sainzo. And on this constant carping from

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party, they're only doing this for politics, right,

1175
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: because we all know that at the end of the

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Speaker 2: day they're going to support this, aren't they.

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Speaker 23: Well, yes, but I mean the other issue, I mean,

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Speaker 23: I think this serious question is asked about this thirty

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Speaker 23: five billion investment and they're from ordver Young that a

1180
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Speaker 23: very good piece of the Herald sort of going into

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Speaker 23: the details of this, and a lot of it was

1182
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Speaker 23: that that sort of money who was going to mean

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Speaker 23: a who was going to have that money to invest

1184
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Speaker 23: plus built into the agreement is something that we're in

1185
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 23: there can say hey, you haven't fulfilled this, We're going

1186
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Speaker 23: to cancel this or do this or claim that, and

1187
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Speaker 23: no one's one hundred percent sure of how that's going

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Speaker 23: to work.

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Speaker 2: Trash.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I caught the Q and a interview yesterday with

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00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 19: Todd McClay and it was kansassing this issue and the

1192
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Speaker 19: migration issue in relation to the trade agreement. And I

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Speaker 19: think there's two things that stuck out for me, like

1194
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 19: for most, for most Kiwi's this is really hard to

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Speaker 19: understand and get a grip on. So I think the

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Speaker 19: call is to our senior politicians to be upfront about

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Speaker 19: it and try not to skew off into populism because

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Speaker 19: you know, migration is such a hot button issue around

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Speaker 19: the world and Winston is trying to go off on

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Speaker 19: that tangent with this, but also on these kinds of

1201
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Speaker 19: numbers and what they mean in the agreement. It may

1202
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Speaker 19: be that the government needs to get much clearer on

1203
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 19: the messaging around that and what these words actually mean

1204
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 19: in not only in practice, but who will have to

1205
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Speaker 19: deliver on these promises.

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Speaker 2: Yeah too write and whether they can actually be forced

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Speaker 2: to deliver on them. Guys, We'll take a break and

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Speaker 2: come back and just to talk about David Seymour and

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Speaker 2: his cutting the size of government policy. Sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real Team The

1211
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: only truly global.

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Speaker 2: Brand fourteen away from sixty back of the huddle, Mark

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: Sainsbury Trisherson now Saints, what did you make of David

1214
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: Seymore's policy to cut the size of government?

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 23: How many times have we heard this? But I do

1216
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 23: have a certain amount of sympathy for cutting the size.

1217
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 23: I think catt is too big. I've always preferred the

1218
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 23: American system you get proper people who know what they're

1219
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 23: doing in cabinet rather than time service. But regardless of that,

1220
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 23: you actually nailed it before. If it's not a bottom line,

1221
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 23: what does it actually mean?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Trish, what do you thank you? Sains I for

1223
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 2: agreeing with me?

1224
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 24: Tresh would add two words actually to your bottom line

1225
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 24: in terms of every policy put up this election, and

1226
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Speaker 24: that would be cost benefit.

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Speaker 19: And you know this is a great example of where

1228
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 19: we are lacking real cost benefit analysis across government, starting

1229
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 19: with what does this whole picture look like? So don't

1230
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 19: forget when you're looking at the sort of structure of government,

1231
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 19: you've got ministers sitting at the top who then are

1232
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 19: in charge of portfolios, and then as a result of

1233
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 19: those portfolios, you have the departments sitting underneath them. So

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 19: in my view, this isn't an all chart hobby to

1235
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 19: relook at how we can streamline government. It's actually about

1236
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 19: accountability because you the three of us, I don't know

1237
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 19: how many times we've looked at things going wrong, we've

1238
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 19: talked about a lack of accountability. That's because the system

1239
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 19: is an absolute muddle. So that's problem one that it

1240
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 19: needs to solve is better accountability. The second point is,

1241
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 19: you know, if you want to reform departments, you have

1242
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 19: to form what sits above them. So that is actually

1243
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 19: to Mark's point about streamlining our cabinet. At the moment,

1244
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 19: way too many cabinet ministers portfolios are a mess across them.

1245
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 19: There's a lot of duplication, which means for ministries it's

1246
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 19: confusing as well. And then I think the other point,

1247
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 19: and this is really the risk area though this would

1248
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 19: have to be done incredibly thoughtfully and surgically, because what

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00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 19: we've seen time and time again is reorganizing the deck

1250
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 19: chairs on the Titanic. Health in New Zealand is a

1251
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 19: great example, and you get stasis, you get huge cost

1252
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 19: and people again they lose sight of the cost benefit

1253
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 19: analysis and the problem that we're trying to solve too, right.

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Speaker 2: Is it not possible? Actually saying so that the government

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00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 2: is by government. I do mean, you know, the state,

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00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: the public service, the cabinet, that the executive, the whole

1257
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: lot of it is so big and there are so

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00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: many vested interests and so much fear of taking a

1259
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 2: risk that actually the chances of being able to reduce

1260
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Speaker 2: it are pretty low.

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Speaker 23: So a combination of the deep state and.

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Speaker 2: Not like a conspiracy theory. No more gliding on look

1263
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Speaker 2: a look at look at health.

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Speaker 23: Look there's always an issue, and I think there's always

1265
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 23: been an issue spent even with the public service. It's

1266
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 23: just like this monolith and it's just very hard to change,

1267
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 23: you know. So whether you're going to have to look

1268
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 23: at something you're radical and or do you look at

1269
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 23: sort of incremental change, it's just gonna.

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Speaker 2: Not know you need to go radical. But if you

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: do go radical, do you reckon? It would work? Like

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Speaker 2: do you reckon? You could actually convince somebody, Okay, here's

1273
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: this is how you do it. Wouldn't it be? You'd

1274
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 2: cut a bunch of ministries like you go through and

1275
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: you go bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, Women's ministry, Maria Affairs, ministry,

1276
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: Ethnic affairs, like just get rid of them. Wouldn't you.

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Speaker 23: Then we've also got no, no, no, But but are

1278
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 23: you going to end up as well?

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Speaker 4: Is it all got a factor in the human cost?

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Speaker 23: I mean, look at even just what the cuts, the

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Speaker 23: cuts which is nextly transpiring to cuts the sort of wellingtons,

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Speaker 23: that's the other thing you're going to you're talking also

1283
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Speaker 23: about people's lives.

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Speaker 19: But I think again, go go, you're starting, you're starting

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Speaker 19: in the middle of the sand.

1286
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Speaker 12: Words.

1287
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 19: You've got to start with the slice on top. You

1288
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 19: have to start with the cabinet and how that's leans example,

1289
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 19: and then and then that is what determines then what

1290
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 19: portfolios and ministry sit under that. If you just come

1291
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 19: back to which is where we've got in the last

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Speaker 19: few years with quote you know, cuts to the public service,

1293
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 19: again we lose sight of the problem that we're trying

1294
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 19: to solve, and we also don't get to the benefit

1295
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 19: that we need out of it. So you've got to

1296
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 19: start at the top and work through it systematically.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now before you see it also should be a

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Speaker 4: cross party issue.

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Speaker 23: I mean, how government runs and the efficiency is you know, no,

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Speaker 23: it's in power forever, so it switches over. So it

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Speaker 23: should be something that all the parties should be involved

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Speaker 23: in saying how can we make this better?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well true, but yeah, and we'll have a debate about

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Speaker 2: bipartisanship and whether that's a good idea later or not.

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Speaker 2: Listen really quickly from each of you, say so, if

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Speaker 2: I had to ask you to define what New Zealand

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Speaker 2: cuisine is, how would you describe it?

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Speaker 4: Chips?

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Speaker 2: What like fries?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Seven million servings a week? This is seven million servings

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Speaker 23: a week.

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Speaker 2: What do just to say about us? Okay, t please

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Speaker 2: do better than that.

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Speaker 19: I would describe New Zealand cuisine as fantastic. It's almost

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Speaker 19: like the foundations of the best Italian cuisine. It's based

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Speaker 19: on incredibly beautiful fresh produce and ingredients with amazing, amazing

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Speaker 19: chefs who know just how to bring those ingredients to

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Speaker 19: the foe without you know, without overeaging the pudding as

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Speaker 19: it were.

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Speaker 2: If I like that, you see that's better than chip.

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Speaker 4: Shift using air frying.

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Speaker 2: Lord above, Hey, guys, thank you so much. Lovely to

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Speaker 2: talk to the pair of Autritius and Mark Sainsbury. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you why I asked them that question

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Speaker 2: straight after this break, hang on eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Art Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: I should mention that the other company worth talking about

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Speaker 2: today that's reported as a to Milk, Shane Solly will

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Speaker 2: run us through it when he's with us in twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes time, so it's five away from six. So the

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Speaker 2: reason I was asking how to define New Zealand cuisine

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Speaker 2: is because it was a question that was put to

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Speaker 2: Jesse Mulligan in Today's Herald Today in the Viva Today,

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Speaker 2: which is how do you define New Zealand food? We

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Speaker 2: had visitors from the UK recently and they asked me this,

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Speaker 2: and I must admit I was stumped, and I've spent

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Speaker 2: a bit of time personally thinking about this. I was

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Speaker 2: quite interested in Jesse's answer, and he writes the answer

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Speaker 2: can go one of two ways. Classic beach batch cooking

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Speaker 2: like they do at Depot this is the one by

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Speaker 2: Sky City, and a where they max out the flavor,

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Speaker 2: but they focus on a no fuss approach approach at

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Speaker 2: the hob or New Zealand fine dining like you'd find

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Speaker 2: it ahi, where every native element of a dish and

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Speaker 2: there are often ten or so is used by the

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Speaker 2: chef as a creative springboard to wow the eyes, nose,

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Speaker 2: and mouth. I would also mention the various international influences

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Speaker 2: that have coalesced into the New Zealand flavor palette. Our

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Speaker 2: techniques are off in European our flavors borrow from around

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Speaker 2: the Pacific rim and then almost running in a different

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Speaker 2: race as the rise of the New Zealand pacifica food

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Speaker 2: spearheaded by Michael Meredith and so on. Anyway, I think

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Speaker 2: Jesse has completely over complicated this. I would surely if

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Speaker 2: you if your answer, surely your answer has just got

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Speaker 2: to be the New Zealand cuisine is defined by the

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Speaker 2: seasonal ingredients. We just do fresh food, don't we. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you go to a place like the States, go to

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Speaker 2: New York, and if you're just wandering around trying to

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Speaker 2: find like a little cafe at lunch that does fresh food,

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Speaker 2: good luck to you. It is so hard to find it.

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Speaker 2: We have fresh vegetables, fresh fruit, fresh meat, and so

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Speaker 2: we don't have to fuss like the like the people

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Speaker 2: in the UK, you know, they get little I mean

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Speaker 2: meat and they put it into a pot and they

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Speaker 2: cook it for like seven hundred days. So it melts

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Speaker 2: on the mouth. But really it's just to disguise what

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Speaker 2: shite meat it is. We just go, oh, look at

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Speaker 2: that beautiful piece of steaks on the bobbi d. You

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Speaker 2: are get your beautiful vegetables, and just that's it's not really.

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Speaker 2: The noise that you make in the steamer is a

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Speaker 2: but you steam it up when you serve it, so

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Speaker 2: it's no fuss. It's really quick, it's fresh. It's it's

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Speaker 2: led by how fresh the food is rather than by

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Speaker 2: the saucers when I'm reading too much Jesse Mulligan or

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Speaker 2: perhaps chips, chips or chips by the way, I did

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Speaker 2: try a well, I tried to try a miture larder,

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Speaker 2: because remember that's the other thing GC was pumping the

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Speaker 2: other day. It was a miture lader. Totally about that

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Speaker 2: experience when I get a chance. Nicola Willis is with

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Speaker 2: us next on all those taxes, News talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: What's up, what's down? What were the major calls and

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Speaker 1: how will it affect the economy of the big business

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Speaker 1: questions on the of the Business Hour where they had

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Speaker 1: the Duplicyllen and mas insurance and investments, Your futures in

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Speaker 1: good hands us talks that'd.

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Speaker 2: Be even in coming up in the next hour. The

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Speaker 2: property investors are going to talk us through what's going

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Speaker 2: on with this flat housing market. Shane Soley on the

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Speaker 2: companies that reported today, and then we'll head over to

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Speaker 2: the UK as well at seven past six and of

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Speaker 2: course with us as Nikola willis the Finance Minister High

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Speaker 2: Nikola Hi, Ever, are you guys considering a storm damage tax?

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Speaker 25: No, we're not so.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Houston writing that a storm damage tax has been

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Speaker 2: temporarily put on hold is what.

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Speaker 25: He's very confused. So what we have is the Natural

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Speaker 25: Hazards Commission. You'll be aware that's the old EQC and

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Speaker 25: Home and Contents insurers. At the moment when you pay

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Speaker 25: for your home and Contents insurance, there's a small levy.

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Speaker 25: So the Natural Hazards Commission. Our government actually made the

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Speaker 25: decision to pause a plan to increase that levee by

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Speaker 25: a couple one hundred dollars a year while we were

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Speaker 25: looking at what's happening with insurance affordability and uptake. So

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Speaker 25: no plan to introduce a new weather tax.

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Speaker 2: So the weather tax would be what that tax when

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Speaker 2: it's finally brought back in.

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Speaker 25: Look, you'd have to ask you, Matthew what he's talking

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Speaker 25: about everyone at the moment, and they have for several

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Speaker 25: years pays a small levy to the government when they

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Speaker 25: take out home and Contents insurance and that's there to

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Speaker 25: cover hazardous damage to your land in your house.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the taxes that major banks play pay, you're having

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Speaker 2: a look at that. Are you planning on doing something

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Speaker 2: in this space?

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Speaker 25: Well, what I have been doing, of course, is looking

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Speaker 25: at the general rules that apply to our major Australian

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Speaker 25: banks to make sure that the rules are all fair.

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Speaker 25: One of the areas that ID are currently consulting with

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Speaker 25: the major banks on is how they account for their

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Speaker 25: profits in New Zealand versus offshore and therefore what tax

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Speaker 25: implications that has. It's called branch sharing arrangements. They're in

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Speaker 25: consultation with them to understand whether we're doing that fairly

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Speaker 25: or not. And that's just basically what you do to

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Speaker 25: have good tax law. You make sure that the way

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Speaker 25: the tax law is working is that it's working is intended,

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Speaker 25: that it's fair, that people aren't avoiding it in ways

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Speaker 25: that weren't presumed they would when the rules we wouldn't place.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but there is the possibility of adding a levee here,

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Speaker 2: isn't there.

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Speaker 25: Well, we have this year, of course, added the deposit

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Speaker 25: Compensation Scheme levy, which mean essentially means that all New

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Speaker 25: Zealanders know that up to ten thousand dollars of your

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Speaker 25: sailings will be covered in the event of a major

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Speaker 25: bank failure, and everyone's paying a levee for that. That

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Speaker 25: was something initiated by the last government that we think

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Speaker 25: is good policy, and we're continuing.

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Speaker 2: No further levies on banks.

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Speaker 25: Well, as you can see by the discussion that I'm having,

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Speaker 25: the way that we tax banks is something that I

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Speaker 25: think should be always under a view, always looking at

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Speaker 25: to make sure that it's fair. But bottom line, for me,

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Speaker 25: I want it to be fair on you, the user

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Speaker 25: of banking services. I don't want it to be something

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Speaker 25: that imposes an extra cost on you.

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Speaker 2: So it is possible that there will be a bank levy.

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Speaker 25: Well, there already are bank levies. Let banks pay levies

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Speaker 25: to the Financial Markets Authority, they pay levs on the

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Speaker 25: deposit compensation scheme, and of course they pay tax on

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Speaker 25: the profits that they make. And as I said, I

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Speaker 25: have been seeking advice on. Is all of that looking tidy?

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Speaker 25: Is it all looking fair?

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Speaker 2: Just rule it in all out right. It's possible if

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Speaker 2: you don't rule it because but you know, we play

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Speaker 2: this game. But then if you don't rule it out,

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Speaker 2: then it means I go Bank's Levy tick. She's considering it.

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Speaker 25: If I go into the budget ruling things in and out,

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Speaker 25: what quickly happens and we went through this together budget

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Speaker 25: you say, you say, oh, well, she ruled that out,

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Speaker 25: but then she won't rule that out. So that means

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Speaker 25: that that is happening, and it just becomes a deductive thing.

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Speaker 25: Ahead of the budget, I just go into not ruling out,

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Speaker 25: not ruling out, just acknowledging range of things.

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Speaker 2: Are you aware that on another tax, which is the

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Speaker 2: border tax, freightways has a problem and they would like

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Speaker 2: a level playing field.

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Speaker 25: I am aware of this, and I just want your

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Speaker 25: readers to understand your listeners to understand what this is about,

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Speaker 25: which is lots of people post COVID started buying things

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Speaker 25: from Shine and Timu and online. The challenge with that

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Speaker 25: is is it costs you, the general tax payer, a

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Speaker 25: lot of money at the border. So by the time

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Speaker 25: customs have done their thing, the border protection people have

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Speaker 25: done their thing and it created a massive cost to

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Speaker 25: the tax payer. And the principle that Casey Costello, the minister,

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Speaker 25: has applied is actually the costs of all of that

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Speaker 25: should be borne by the person buying the goods. So

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Speaker 25: we should charge the career companies a price that reflects

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Speaker 25: how much it actually costs to get those goods.

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Speaker 2: And through this it looks pretty fair. That is a

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Speaker 2: perfectly good explanation for it. But here's the thing. There's

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Speaker 2: always a good explanation for another tax. But we've just

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Speaker 2: talked about three taxes that you're considering. That's a lot

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Speaker 2: of tax for a government that was not supposed to

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Speaker 2: bring in any new taxes.

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Speaker 13: Hey.

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Speaker 25: Hey, the first one we considered is one where I

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Speaker 25: rejected the advice of officials to increase the levee.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't counting that. That's the fourth one. We're just

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Speaker 2: talking about the three you are doing.

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Speaker 25: So you're talking about for a tax gas tax. Well, well,

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Speaker 25: I think every government has two things that should do.

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Speaker 25: The first is minimize the new things that you do

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Speaker 25: that will create costs for people. The second thing is

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Speaker 25: you should ask who should pay that cost? Should it

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Speaker 25: be you the general tax payer from your wages or

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Speaker 25: is this something that should be paid by the people

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Speaker 25: who are actually benefits.

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Speaker 2: Which I love if when you put up the tax

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Speaker 2: on the people the user pays, you reduce my taxes,

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Speaker 2: but you.

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Speaker 25: Don't, well, I think we need to come at it

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Speaker 25: this way, which is before you put any user pays

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Speaker 25: on or increase the user pays, first ask yourself the

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Speaker 25: question does this really need to be done? And is

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Speaker 25: it being done as efficiently as possible? And those are

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Speaker 25: two questions our government always asks and we're very clear

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Speaker 25: about that.

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Speaker 2: Now, Chippy and the Labor Party are stirring trouble as

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Speaker 2: you well know about the Indie FTA. So what can

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Speaker 2: you tell us about this business that if we don't

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Speaker 2: put the private investment into India within the next fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: they may well pull market access.

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Speaker 25: Well, look, what I understand from Minister maclay is that

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Speaker 25: there is a really strong aspiration in the Free Trade

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01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 25: Agreement to promote in investment, but it doesn't guarantee a

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01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 25: specific amount of money, and that that's not what the

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 25: agreement is saying. What it's saying is let's both agree

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 25: to promote significant levels of investment in our respective countries.

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 25: Let's put some aspirational targets out there, but it doesn't

1523
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 25: seek to hold governments accountable for ensuring that bottom line

1524
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 25: is okay.

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: So when Chippy says that the Indian government is telling

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01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: its people that if we don't invest adequately, they will

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 2: pull market access and that's in the agreement, he's talking rubbish.

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Speaker 25: Well, you'd have to ask Chris Hopkins about that.

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Speaker 2: I have to ask you because you guys have actually

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Speaker 2: seen the documents.

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01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 25: Well, and I'm telling you specifically that the documents do

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01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 25: not guarantee a specific amount of money. They have an

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Speaker 25: obligation that we promote a certain level of investment, and

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Speaker 25: of course there's a difference between those two.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: Now, listen, what did you make of the Milford boss

1537
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: saying that the superage needs to go to seventy two

1538
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: or seventy three?

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Speaker 4: Quick?

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Speaker 25: Smart, Well, I thought that was a bit over the top,

1541
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 25: to be honest, I do, as we've discussed before, I

1542
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,919
Speaker 25: think there is a discussion about how we ensure universal

1543
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 25: superannuation is sustainable into the future. I do think there's

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01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 25: a proper conversation about the growing role for key we

1545
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 25: savor National has promoted in the past, gradually increasing the

1546
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 25: superage by up to a couple of years. But I

1547
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 25: haven't heard anyone suggest seventy three any time other than Milford.

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Speaker 2: Nikola, thanks you very much. Is always appreciate your time

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Speaker 2: on a Monday. That's Nicola Willis, Finance Minister. By the way,

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01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 2: One News has just come out with it. It's very

1551
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 2: in polar. Give you the numbers now. The Nats are

1552
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: on thirty four, the are the biggest party, Labour on

1553
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 2: thirty two, the Greens are on eleven. New Zealand First

1554
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: is on ten, the act Parties on nine and the

1555
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: Maldi Party is on two percent. And on those numbers

1556
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: the coalition have enough to government to govern a preferred

1557
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Chris Luxen and Chris Hepkins are tied on

1558
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Speaker 2: twenty percent. Then you've got Winston Peters on ten percent,

1559
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 2: Chloe swall Back on five percent and Nichol Willis popping

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: up on one percent.

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Speaker 1: Quarter past it's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on my Heart Radio powered by Newstalks EBB. Approaching

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Speaker 1: the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen

1564
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with MAS insurance and investments. Your

1565
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: futures in good hands, used talks edb.

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Speaker 2: I'll try that again. By the way, on the natural

1567
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: heat this is the storm damage tax that that Matthew

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01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: Houston was talking about as Nikola was saying, the natural

1569
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 2: hazards levy that goes on your insurance. It does need

1570
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: to go up. I mean if if there's some recent

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 2: pressure on the government to put it up, basically because

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01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: we're running out of money all the time dealing with

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: all the natural hazards. It will be a brave government

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01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: that does that. Though you can understand why this government

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: has put a pause on it because have a look

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 2: at your insurance bill. How are you feeling about that? Yeah,

1577
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't like it either. Now imagine that levy goes up.

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01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 2: None of us are going to love it.

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Speaker 1: Are we?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen past six now?

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Speaker 19: Shane?

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Speaker 2: Solely harbor asset management is with us ELLO. Shane.

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01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 5: How you that?

1584
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 2: So the US inflation data came out late last week

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 2: lower than expected. What do you make of it?

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah? So US consider price inflation that was at on

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 5: Friday for January came in at zero point two percent.

1588
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 5: There's the smallest increase since July heather all about lower

1589
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,839
Speaker 5: energy prices, both electricity and gasoline. Key thing for markets

1590
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 5: was it wasn't a big blowout. So market's starting to

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 5: think about us cpis at two and a half percent

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01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 5: year on year US figure reserved. They may better cut

1593
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 5: rates a few more times, two or three times this year.

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Speaker 5: Important for us here in New Zealand because it actually

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01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 5: helps with the cost of borrowing for our government and

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 5: some of our businesses, to netboost for a few other

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Speaker 5: businesses as well.

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Speaker 2: Now we've got obviously the RB and Z having a

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Speaker 2: chat to us on Wednesday. We're expecting that they're going

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Speaker 2: to hint at some rate increases.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the market's not pricing anything, and so forward interest

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01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 5: rate curves aren't pricing thing for Wednesday, but they are

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 5: pricing and an increase in September or October this year,

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 5: so potential for another zero point two five percent in

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01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 5: September October. In fact, the market's actually pricing and official

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 5: cash rates to be at three percent by April twenty seven.

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Speaker 5: That can be with two point two five percent today.

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01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 5: There is a bit of a rest that markets have

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 5: got ahead of themselves. We expect the Rizerve Bank to

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01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 5: be quite balanced in its tone. It's a tough line.

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 5: We've got inflation is a bit sticky, but then at

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 5: the same time we've got very choppy economic data and

1613
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 5: labor markets they're not particularly strong, so maybe the policymakers

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Speaker 5: can hold off on hiking rates in the near ten.

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Speaker 2: Now we've had the three company results out today here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Give me, give me a run through

1617
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 2: what you thought of them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was a good day for a company.

1619
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 5: Results today a two milk, Contact, Energy and Freightways out today,

1620
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 5: a two beat expectations driven interestingly by their neutralational business,

1621
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 5: not all about their Chinese and for formula business and Vietnam.

1622
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 5: Vietnam is a big growth market for them now hasn't

1623
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 5: really been a driver before. Is now a bit of

1624
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 5: excitement about the Chinese marriage data getting better, so that's

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01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 5: helpful for future demand for infant formula. Shea prices up

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 5: five percent to ten dollars fifty to day, contacting a

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01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 5: sort of result that the big one there Wordesday announced

1628
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 5: a five hundred and twenty five million dollar new equity

1629
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 5: rays to fund some of the big matricity generating capacity

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01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: development they're doing. Sheep price on that is about eight

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01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 5: seventy five. That's a seven percent plus discount to where

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 5: the extibanand price was on Friday. They don't trade to Wednesday,

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01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 5: so we don't know what that shap price will do. Freightways.

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 5: Good solid delivery from freightways. Interesting that they're talking about

1635
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 5: the economy steadily improving, but they're still seeing their economy

1636
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 5: business grow better than their premium business. Good boosts from

1637
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 5: their Aussie business. And that she price up zero point

1638
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 5: six percent to forteen and sixty one. So yeah, shear

1639
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 5: market was actually down today in New Zeale point six

1640
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 5: per percent. They've really tried to raise some care to

1641
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 5: fund their contact placement. Hopefully we'll get a few more

1642
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 5: positive results of the rest of the week to give

1643
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 5: you the market a bit of a boost.

1644
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shane, this and thanks as always running us through it.

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01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again next week. Shane Solly of

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01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 2: Harbor Asset Management six twenty two.

1647
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1648
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Heather Dupicla and MAS Insurance

1649
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: and Investments. Your futures in Good Hands News talk.

1650
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: Zby Okay, I am interested. I am interested because fingers crossed,

1651
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: fingers crossed, and what the Super Rugby boss has said

1652
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: in a piece about Super Rugby. So he's just a

1653
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: little line that was slipped in there. So the what

1654
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: the piece is about is how Super rugby's basically on

1655
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,560
Speaker 2: the app. It's doing really well. People are starting to

1656
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,560
Speaker 2: watch it and enjoy it very much. Again, but you

1657
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: can't ignore, he says, the arkillers heel, which is the

1658
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: dominance of the Chiefs and the Crusaders, because of course

1659
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 2: the Crusaders have won eight of the past nine titles,

1660
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: and then in the last decade, you won't find a

1661
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 2: final that hasn't got one of these two squads in it.

1662
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: Right in the last ten years, either the Crusaders or

1663
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 2: the chief are in the final. So what he says

1664
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 2: is he thinks everyone realizes that we have to have

1665
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 2: that conversation and investigate what we can do, whether that's

1666
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: and I quote, whether that's distribution of talent or what

1667
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: are the mechanism salary caps, those types of things we

1668
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 2: need to think about. Now, distribution of talent? Does that

1669
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: mean is that a little clue here is that is

1670
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 2: that the old trading the players thing that we've talked

1671
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: about before. Is that the old letting some of the

1672
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 2: all blacks go and play for super rugby teams in

1673
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 2: Australia that we've talked about. Because I don't know about you,

1674
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: that's a bold call, but that's what I would be into,

1675
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden you wouldn't have all the

1676
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: players and the crews, all the players packed into the

1677
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: Crusaders and the Chiefs, but you might have some of

1678
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 2: them playing for the war retars actually making that squad

1679
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: half good. Six twenty six.

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Speaker 1: There's no business like show business, I think so.

1681
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 2: Sam the Reducer is prepared to make a call. He

1682
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: thinks old Hollywood fashion is back and it's all thanks

1683
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 2: to the latest celebrity wedding.

1684
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 4: Now.

1685
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: You may know Maya Hawk from playing Robin on Stranger Things,

1686
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 2: or she's also the voice of Anxiety and inside Out too.

1687
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: She's the daughter of Ethan Hawk and Uma Thurman, so

1688
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 2: she is a knee po chick. Anyway. She married her

1689
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: longtime musician boyfriend Christian Lee Hudson in the New York

1690
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,480
Speaker 2: City snow on Valentine's Day. She wore a plain, sleeveless

1691
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: boat neck white gown, no lay snow frills, but a

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01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 2: gigantic skirt with lots of layers. She also had a

1693
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: fabulous matching jacket covered in ostrich feathers, and the kids

1694
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 2: are saying that this marks the renaissance of classic glamour.

1695
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 26: Before we go any further, I need to take a

1696
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 26: second for mayosdra Of course, it is oversized, it has

1697
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 26: feathers on on it. It's very much giving old Hollywood

1698
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 26: glamb and I'm obsessed, especially given the fact that they

1699
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,799
Speaker 26: got married in New York City and it's been freezing

1700
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 26: here and these photos absolutely look sunning.

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01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 5: And Timeland I.

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 2: Called her a knee po chick, but he might have

1703
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: meant that I should say neepo chic, but you know

1704
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 2: who cares about pronunciation anyway. The low key event was

1705
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 2: attended by the actresses Fame Missparents, alongside a majority of

1706
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: her Stranger Things cast mates. Notably missing, though, was her

1707
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: co star Millie Bobby Brown, which has fueled rumors of

1708
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 2: tension within the cast. It could obviously just be a

1709
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 2: scheduling conflict, but that would be far too sensible for

1710
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: the Internet, wouldn't it. Now that we've covered the chick

1711
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: sheek thing, we are going to loop all the way back.

1712
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna circle back, as they say, we're gonna circle

1713
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 2: back later on to roofs and roofs because there is

1714
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: more on this that we need to cover off. But

1715
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: next let's deal with the important stuff. What's going on

1716
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: with the housing market and why aren't prices increasing, especially

1717
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: in Wellington and Auckland. Probably investors on that next falls.

1718
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 13: It was fun.

1719
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 1: You'll say no.

1720
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: If you read like a ready.

1721
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs, the big corporates, the business hour with head,

1722
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,839
Speaker 1: the duper cl and mass insurance and investments, your futures

1723
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: in good hands, news talks, that'd be.

1724
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 15: You don't go, oh god, shudo, you know you've got

1725
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 15: tomorrow right.

1726
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Gray is going to be with us shortly. The

1727
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: Olympic Games Shop is in trouble because it has been

1728
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Speaker 2: selling t shirts featuring the you know, the logos and

1729
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: the designs of various Olympic Games. And of course there

1730
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: was an Olympic Games in nineteen thirty six in Berlin,

1731
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: and so that's not like a bit tied with the Nazis,

1732
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: so we can't possibly be having any of those t

1733
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 2: shirts become very controversial. Gavin Gray will run us through

1734
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: that when he's with us in ten minutes time, back

1735
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: from his holiday, twenty four away from seven. Now, the

1736
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: property market seems to have missed the memo about economic

1737
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: green shoots. New data out from Iria and z the

1738
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: Real Estate Institute shows a drop in both the house

1739
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: prices and the sales. The house price indexes down zero

1740
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 2: point seven percent of where it was this time last year.

1741
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: National sales down five point four percent on last month.

1742
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: Matt Ball is from the Property Investors Federation and with

1743
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 2: us evening Matt Hey, Heather, Now, is this just January

1744
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 2: of slow? It's always the season all thing?

1745
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 27: Is that?

1746
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 2: What's going on here?

1747
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 27: Look, I wouldn't get too fixated on what happens month

1749
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 27: to month. I think what's more important is the bigger picture.

1750
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 27: It does look like we're going to have a reasonably

1751
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 27: flat housing market for a little while. Some people are

1752
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 27: predicted maybe two percent growth this year. And it's all

1753
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 27: about the macros. It's supply and demand. There's more supply

1754
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 27: than a lot of places and less demand.

1755
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's what drives it.

1756
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: This is the migration data, right, This This feeds back

1757
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: into the number of people. But add to that as well,

1758
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: do you not think that what is playing a role

1759
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 2: here is the expectations of an OCR lift.

1760
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 27: Oh absolutely, I think that is damping things down a

1761
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 27: wee bit. Yes, but it's still good buying conditions. Like

1762
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 27: if you're a first time buyer, now still a pretty

1763
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 27: good time to get into the market. Also, if you're

1764
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 27: a property investor, it's never a bad time to buy.

1765
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 27: If you do your mass, do you make sure the

1766
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 27: fundamentals are right, you can get some growth out of

1767
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 27: it and get some good cash lood, it's a good

1768
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 27: time to buy it.

1769
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 13: So you know, I wouldn't be too sad.

1770
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 2: What about the election? How much of that is causing

1771
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: people to sit back a little bit?

1772
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 27: Yes, I agree the election would definitely give people pause.

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01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 13: It might be a bit early for that effect.

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01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 17: Although with the.

1775
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 27: Pole so tight, although i'd want tonight's fold, I would

1776
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 27: tight poles, people might be sort of pulling back a

1777
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,879
Speaker 27: little bit. That's probably more going to affect your investors.

1778
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 27: I'd be worried that Labour's going to come back in

1779
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 27: and remove interests of auctibility again, but I would have

1780
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 27: thought first time buyers wouldn't be too worried about that.

1781
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 2: Now, where are you sitting on. I mean see the

1782
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 2: predictions are two four percent five percent growth in the

1783
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 2: housing market this year.

1784
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 13: Where do you sit yep, I'd be at the lower

1785
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 13: end of the range. I think more like two percent.

1786
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 27: There's plenty of supply, particularly in Auckland and Wellington, demand

1787
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 27: as low migration as low as your point O out

1788
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 27: in Wellington that loss of jobs. But then again, if

1789
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 27: you're in the South Island, christ Church, Otago and Southland

1790
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 27: are doing pretty well. And I note that the targo

1791
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 27: in Southland they're actually up above the peak price now,

1792
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 27: so there are parts of the country that are doing well.

1793
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, hey, Matt, thank you very much. I really

1794
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: appreciate your insight. That's Matt Bull, Property Investors Federation Advocacy Manager,

1795
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,919
Speaker 2: twenty one away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Ever Dupless Alan.

1797
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: That he sells to me like a pretty good time

1798
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 2: to buy. So, oh, I need to tell you about this.

1799
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 2: If you're one of those people who's into the intimate

1800
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: and fasting, you might want to think about the torture

1801
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: that you're putting yourself through again because it is probably

1802
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: not working. There is a major review of studies which

1803
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: has been done by the Cochrane Collaboration and Basically what

1804
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: they've done is this is like a you know, when

1805
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: they analyze, they take pull all the studies together and

1806
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: then analyze across all the studies what they found. So

1807
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: they've analyzed the evidence from twenty two randomized clinical trials

1808
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 2: which involve nearly two thousand adults across North America, Europe, China, Australia,

1809
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 2: South America. You'd have to say pretty comprehensive. What they

1810
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: found is it is no better. Right, So, if you

1811
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 2: can do the weird thing where you're sort of starving

1812
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: half the time and eaten half the time, you're not

1813
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: going to lose any more weight than if you simply

1814
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: eat properly, like follow proper dietary advice, which is eat

1815
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 2: your whole grains, eat your meat, eat your vegetables, eat

1816
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 2: lots of fruit, try to like calorie counting. Basically that's

1817
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: the way to go. Or in fact, you're not going

1818
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: to lose any more weight. And if you did nothing

1819
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 2: at all, So what does that say, because isn't the

1820
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 2: thing that it does where you do the intimate and

1821
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: fast thing. You go, Oh, I starve myself for seventeen

1822
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: thousand hours this week. I feel fantastic. But then what

1823
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: happens is when you get in front of the food.

1824
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: W u uh ha, gorge yourself, don't you. You've undo

1825
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: all of the good work. The only way to go,

1826
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: I've come round to this. The only way to go

1827
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 2: is basically the calorie count. You're going to have to

1828
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 2: end up there like they did in the eighties, you know,

1829
01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: when they were going there, like I can. I only

1830
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: have one little I've eaten all my calories for the week.

1831
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: This one little piece of lettuce is all I have left.

1832
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 2: That's what you need to do. And then before you know,

1833
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: because it's got to that, you're putting out more energy

1834
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: than you're bringing in. Anyway, speaking of which, so I

1835
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: was telling you last week that Jesse Mulligan was raving

1836
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: about the Mitu Lada and I had to go and

1837
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 2: try the Mitchillada. Well, I you know, true to my word,

1838
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 2: I went to a Chilian place. One of my friends

1839
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 2: loved South American and she's like, let's go, and I said,

1840
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: take you out for your birthday for dinner. So she

1841
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: picked a Chilian place that I one hundred percent would

1842
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 2: not recommend to anybody ever. It was rubbish, but not

1843
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: just because of the story I'm going to tell you,

1844
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: but just in general. But I went in there and

1845
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: I was like, fantastic, this is my opportunity. I said,

1846
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: can I please order a Mitchellada and they were like absolutely,

1847
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 2: And then they delivered me what did not look like

1848
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: a matullada, but just like a straight beer. Now, if

1849
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: you know what a Mitchellada is, a Mitchellada, according to

1850
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: Jesse Mulligan, is half a beer, half a half a

1851
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: tomato juice. This was not a red thing. This was

1852
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,760
Speaker 2: just a standard beer. I said, this is not a Mitchellada. Like,

1853
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 2: yes it is. Oh you wanted the Mexican Mitchellada. I

1854
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: was like, ah, yes, that's what I was. So now

1855
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 2: there's a distinction. Apparently, you can't just go and order

1856
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 2: a mitu Lada. You've got order a Mexican Mitchullada mitchell Lada.

1857
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: If you're wondering what is there, well that is just

1858
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 2: a beer with some lemon juice in it. That's just

1859
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 2: a corona, now, isn't it, Because that's what you're doing,

1860
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: checking the lemon in the top and you're drinking the

1861
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: beer pasted it. So there's that. But then it did

1862
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: have a little spice. They put it in a cup

1863
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: for you and a glass and then they put a

1864
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 2: spicy salt around that. Woo, it was rubbish.

1865
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 8: That sounds I was gonna say, sounds all right to

1866
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 8: finished it.

1867
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: I probably paid I probably paid a cocktail price for

1868
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: what was just a corona essentially with a bit of

1869
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: spice on the top. AnyWho, I got to just chuck

1870
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: some tabasco in it, and anyway, so then after I

1871
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 2: like sort of forced my way through it, I was like,

1872
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 2: can I now please order a Mexican Mitchell Lada And

1873
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 2: they were like, oh no, we haven't got any tomato juice.

1874
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 2: Oh give up, I give up. So anyway, I cannot

1875
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 2: this week. I was hoping to this week be able

1876
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 2: to tell you, yes, it's the most amazing thing, because

1877
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: Jack Tamee was like, stelacious thought, I just want to

1878
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 2: be able to tell you it's the most amazing thing

1879
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: I've ever had in my whole entire life. But I can't.

1880
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,839
Speaker 2: I'll just wait. I have to go to another restaurant

1881
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: and try it again. Just a quick shout out to

1882
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 2: Nancy Lou who probably needs to lay off the sugars

1883
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: in the morning, or just off LinkedIn all together. Nancy

1884
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: lou is quite enthusiastic about Chris Luxen for holding up

1885
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: the umbrella today. So if you haven't caught up on this,

1886
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 2: what happened is Chris was at the announcement of the

1887
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,800
Speaker 2: state of origin and this guy who looks like the

1888
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: image of Epstein gets up to speak and it starts

1889
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 2: raining and according to Nancy while let me just quote her, enthusiastic,

1890
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Luxeon gets up with the umbrella. This is what she said.

1891
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 2: This is the Christopher Luxe. And I know, while people

1892
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: were scrambling for umbrellas, the Prime Minister grabbed one and

1893
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 2: walked straight onto the stage, holding it over the speaker

1894
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 2: mid speech. No cameras called, no drama, just instinct. That's leadership,

1895
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: kind grounded, energetic, action oriented. My leader, our prime minister. Now,

1896
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to say, that is actually very

1897
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 2: good from Christopher Luxeen, because for the most part, prime

1898
01:29:57,479 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: ministers expect to have the umbrella held for them. They

1899
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,879
Speaker 2: do not go and waste their energy and their calories

1900
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 2: on holding the umbrella for anybody else. So it was,

1901
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 2: it was, it was a good move from him, very nice,

1902
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: very very proud of him for being a decent human

1903
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 2: like has Mum brought him up to be Nancy. I'm

1904
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: the other man has gone all wartime propaganda on this,

1905
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 2: hasn't she my leader, our prime minister? Lord above?

1906
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 5: Nick?

1907
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: I mean Kim jong Own is going to call up

1908
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,680
Speaker 2: and say he wants is O bit back? That was

1909
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 2: full on, wasn't it? Sixteen Away from seven?

1910
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Speaker 1: Ever's to do with money? It matters to you. The

1911
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance and Investments,

1912
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands? News talks 'd be.

1913
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: Heather, you're talking it up. The economy is awful, Get Harvey,

1914
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 2: normanal Brisco's Rod on your show. Retailers way worse than

1915
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 2: last year. General property prices, both residential and commercial remains

1916
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 2: stagnant to recessive. Thirteen Away from seven and Gavin Gray

1917
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Speaker 2: are UK correspondent is back from his holiday. Oh, Gavin Hiver,

1918
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Speaker 2: have now tell me about this measles outbreak in London?

1919
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Speaker 2: How bad is that?

1920
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

1921
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Speaker 28: It's getting pretty serious and it appears to be mostly

1922
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 28: over children that have not been fully immunized. And that's

1923
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,600
Speaker 28: why the authorities are trying to really publicize this to

1924
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 28: say that people. Look, if you're in the UK you

1925
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 28: should have the immunization, and particularly in North London where

1926
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 28: now dozens of people from a number of different schools

1927
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 28: have contracted measles and it looks like one in five

1928
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 28: of them are being admitted to hospital. It's a very

1929
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 28: fast spreading measles outbreak. It is I think particularly unpleasant

1930
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 28: this particular strain, and the local doctors are saying people

1931
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 28: need to get this immunization done quickly because otherwise things

1932
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 28: are getting out of hand here, they reckon. They've had

1933
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Speaker 28: ninety six total cases confirmed in England for the first

1934
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 28: month of the year alone, and normally that figure is

1935
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Speaker 28: much much lower. But of course there have been constant

1936
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Speaker 28: concerns about vaccinations, and indeed we've seen that uncertainly come

1937
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,520
Speaker 28: out of America too, haven't we, But concerns about vaccinations

1938
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Speaker 28: and other side effects that they may have. The health

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Speaker 28: service here saying they are they are safe, they are

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Speaker 28: the best way of dealing with this and people should

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Speaker 28: have the MMR doses, that three dose in one vaccination

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Speaker 28: as soon as they could possibly get it.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this Olympic T shirt problem?

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Speaker 28: Very very interesting story. So the Olympic Games and the IOC,

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Speaker 28: the International Olympic Committee are selling as part of its

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Speaker 28: merchandise a so called heritage collection and that celebrates styles

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Speaker 28: from all the different editions of the games. And each

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Speaker 28: of the posters for each of the games is available

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Speaker 28: on separate T shirts. Now, guess which one has sold out? Well,

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Speaker 28: one of the ones that sold out is the nineteen

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Speaker 28: thirty six Berlin Olympic Games. Now you'll remember they were

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Speaker 28: used by Adolf Hitler and Nazis for propaganda, and people say, hang,

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Speaker 28: you shouldn't have this as a poster because it was

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Speaker 28: a disgraced games as such, And of course what Hitler

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Speaker 28: wanted to do was to glorify Nazi Germany on the

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Speaker 28: international stage and promote his ideals of racious supremacy, which

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Speaker 28: of course was rather pricked when Jesse Owens, an African

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Speaker 28: American track and field athlete, won four golds in the

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Speaker 28: nineteen thirty six Games. But they're selling these T shirts

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Speaker 28: and they have sold out, and some are saying, you

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Speaker 28: know what, you really should have thought about the why

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Speaker 28: the implication of selling the Berlin T shirt, And I

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Speaker 28: think it should be something that you don't go into

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Speaker 28: reprint and you should have an investigation about why that

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Speaker 28: was one of the so called heritage collection.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see, okay, so this cracked down on vaping.

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Speaker 2: Is this about full noise or is this a good idea?

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Speaker 28: I think lots of people are sort of suddenly realizing

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Speaker 28: that vaping, yep, might help you quit smoking. But a

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Speaker 28: few the medics here are saying, but it can cause

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Speaker 28: its own health problems, we fear. And I was driving

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Speaker 28: behind somebody who was vaping in their car with the window.

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Speaker 28: The amount of smoke coming out, I thought it was

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Speaker 28: going to catch fire or something in the car.

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Speaker 4: It was just incredible.

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Speaker 28: But anyway, it has helped lots of people stop smoking.

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Speaker 28: But health chiefs say we need some action to protect

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Speaker 28: children and vulnerable people from breathing in secondhand smoke, even

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Speaker 28: from a vape, And so what they're looking at is

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Speaker 28: to ban people vaping in cars carrying children, ban vaping

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Speaker 28: in playgrounds and outside schools, And smoking is also going

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Speaker 28: to be banned outside hospitals and other health facilities. It's

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Speaker 28: already banned in them, of course, but vaping will be

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Speaker 28: allowed in those areas because they're trying to encourage people

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Speaker 28: to give up smoking proper. So it is an extension

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Speaker 28: of the smoking band we've seen which has been really

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Speaker 28: massive here in the UK across all public transport and

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Speaker 28: workplaces and really restricting them in social environments too. But

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Speaker 28: to extend it with the vaping as well, it is

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Speaker 28: going to be very difficult to police. That's always been

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Speaker 28: the argument. But actually, do you know what, I think

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Speaker 28: most people seem to be respecting Kevin.

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Speaker 2: It is very nice to have you back, Welcome back

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Speaker 2: and look forward to chatting you in a couple of days. Again.

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Speaker 2: That's Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent. Walked past the guy

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Speaker 2: the other day actually was crossing the road impulsomby and

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Speaker 2: it was a ute and he had his window down.

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Speaker 2: Old bloke obviously old tradey or old farmer or something

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Speaker 2: nice ute though like I'm not painting a picture of

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Speaker 2: some like clapped out car. Here was a new ute,

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Speaker 2: really nice new ute. I was envious, had his window down,

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Speaker 2: smoking a fag out the window. It's lovely, you know

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Speaker 2: when you're in when you know, when you just catch

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Speaker 2: a whiff of it at the start of the cigarette,

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Speaker 2: you go, oh that's lovely, isn't It brings back nice memories.

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Speaker 2: But then if you put in your mouth, not that

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Speaker 2: lovely now Liz truss As and she of the shelf

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Speaker 2: Life of a less duration as the UK Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: has met with Donald Trump, and she's posted a picture

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Speaker 2: of the pair of them on social media and she's

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Speaker 2: captioned it right about Everything. Eight away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Timple see Allan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered US dog z B.

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Speaker 2: Heather reacts policy to reduce the size of government. I

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Speaker 2: thought that's what we were voting for at the last selection.

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Speaker 2: Smaller public service, smaller portfolios for ministers, decreasing regulation to

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Speaker 2: boost the economy and generate new businesses that increase the

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Speaker 2: GDP of the country. Well, pdre don't have to vote

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Speaker 2: for it again. Apparently now Heather roofs with a V.

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Speaker 2: All the way saying roofs is awkward, and so is

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Speaker 2: saying the article the before a word starting with the

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Speaker 2: vowel e g. The apple or the egg instead of

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Speaker 2: the apple or the egg. It is so awkward. Barb

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Speaker 2: talk a uha, thank you, bub. I was going to

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Speaker 2: add to that. And of course when you are saying

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Speaker 2: things that start with a silent age or just you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: an hour, you shouldn't say oh hour, you should say

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Speaker 2: an hour, an hour glass and what else starts with?

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Speaker 8: Well, people often do it with hotel, don't they say

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Speaker 8: a hotel? Yes, yes, which I always thought the ancient

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Speaker 8: hotel was not silent, It was just a regular ah.

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Speaker 2: But historically the eighth in a hotel and the H

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Speaker 2: in historic was silent, So you should say an hotel

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Speaker 2: and historic blah blah whatever and historical blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But then I read on the internet, because that's where

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Speaker 2: it's which has led us so well. So intin my god,

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Speaker 2: not really, that's blessed for me anyway. And historic was

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Speaker 2: once common when the H was silent. It is now

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Speaker 2: considered an unnecessary affectation or outdated usage. So I am

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Speaker 2: so full noise in my old English that I am saying.

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Speaker 2: I am I am giving you affectations there, gans and

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Speaker 2: historic roofs.

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Speaker 8: That doesn't quite work, does it. Zara Larson Midnight Sun

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Speaker 8: to play us out tonight. So Zara Arson was meant

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Speaker 8: to be here recently to open for One Republic, but

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Speaker 8: that ended up not happening. The Swedish pop star but

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Speaker 8: good news. She's planning in Australia tour and the ticket

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Speaker 8: sales to that have been just going through the roof

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Speaker 8: to a much greater degree than the promoter thoughts that

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Speaker 8: at a bunch of venue upgrades and they were like,

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Speaker 8: you know what, we'll send it to New Zealand as well.

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Speaker 8: So she will be playing at Spark Arena in Auckland

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Speaker 8: as a headline show in a not over this year.

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Speaker 13: Who is she going to?

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Speaker 8: Who was she going to open for One Republic?

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Speaker 1: Nah?

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Speaker 2: Like that's one Republic is the Maroon five of today,

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Speaker 2: aren't they?

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Speaker 8: I mean, unfortunately, Maroon five is very much still the

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Speaker 8: Maroon five of today.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I did think for a while there's

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Speaker 2: six sixty was the Maroon five of today, but then

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Speaker 2: we've got a lot.

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Speaker 8: Of Mark going to any of those gigs over this

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Speaker 8: same time.

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Speaker 2: She quite likes six sixty, I hate to say. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself and I will see you tomorrow, which will

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Speaker 2: be an historic day. Lay shout it from the rooms whatever,

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Speaker 2: shout it from the roofs enjoy yourself, see you then, boy.

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